Could Mephiles Return to Sonic Games?

[@lorddanny2988]

Well well well. He is finally back.

[@NotTheRealMonkeeMan007]

After all of these years he is finally back.

[@cadeshanley218]

Yeah! Bet he is pulled from the events of 06. Got any theories about his role to pass the time while we wait for the game?

[@Sadguy11]

@@cadeshanley218 I hope its something grand. And not just one boss fight. Man deserves more after his long wait to return. Heck. Chaos returned before him.

[@cadeshanley218]

@@Sadguy11 And Dan Green to reprise his role in voicing him.

[@mitchsorrenstein3534]

You forgot Mephiles most powerful ability, the ability to destroy plot armor.

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Questionable Quinton Ohh! XD

[@AHun-t]

Oh yea that was his strongest ability, name one sonic villain who actually broke plot armor other than mephiles That’s right NOBODY

[@dragonking5852]

@@AHun-t ummmm megatron

[@AHun-t]

natsu dragneel the king when the fuck was megatron a sonic villain?

[@agoodname7980]

@@AHun-t i think thats the joke, he did, but he isnt part of this franchise.

[@FurryWhoGames]

Everyone else: “This was the worst sonic game ever” Me: “*pulls out picture of Mephiles*”

[@azash9021]

Edgy Pizza also u: hugs the picture Me:thumbs up

[@lesnarahamilton5674]

god i loved that game

[@pedrofontana8737]

Love this game

[@Signerdragon123]

Me: Pulls out Rise of Lyric.

[@AHun-t]

Me:(pulls out the 06 soundtrack)

[@stairbanastor2765]

Eggman made a pocket in space and time to create past events. All the characters escaped. Including Eggman. So who's saying Mephiles cant slip out of Crisis City?

[@theemeraldarts5687]

memphis_ To be honest, your not wrong! There could be the Werehog, Marine, Dark Gaia, Chip, Mecha Sonic, and more. So who knows, you could be COMPLETELY on point?!

[@Tielesiti]

there's also the small little detail that Silver, despite being from the same game that retconned itself out of existence, has frequently and consistently appeared in later games

[@sosansational]

EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.

[@lilkeyla5769]

👀👀👀

[@lilkeyla5769]

@@Tielesiti exactly

[@skycladangel1674]

The answer is yes. Their is a way to bring back(the real) Mephiles the Dark. With no cloning or anything like that. And you can thank Sonic Generations. When Elise blew out Solaris: the Flame of Hope, she created an alternate universe where Solaris doesn't exist but the events themselves are locked in a time and space realm they left from. Locked away from the consciousness of Sonic, Elise and everyone (Except Blaze the Cat). That is until the Time Eater opened a space time rift to Crisis City in Sonic Generations. It is absolutely possible that Mephiles could unknownably escape Crisis City to the White Space in Generations and migrated with Sonic's current dimension where he doesn't exist.

[@shadowmanthecommenter579]

yay my favorite villan can return!

[@JustVince7810]

Another possibility goes that the ending of Sonic '06 is that because Elise extinguished Solaris' flame, the timeline just resets, with a likely possibility that no one will remember the events that took place. If that's the case, then the the events of Sonic '06 happen within a time loop, which effectively renders Mephiles as a living paradox. Think Eobard Thawne, aka the Reverse Flash. Tying in events from Sonic Generations (which may be the new timeline you're be referring to) feels like the right call to make. As this may make Mephiles aware of his situation as a living paradox, and break free. Once all is said and done, the ending is left open ended. He still likely has a chip on his shoulder and an axe to grind to take down Shadow (which I believe that he'll likely do first), and he'll likely sow dissent among the people in the new timeline. For all I know, he could essentially do anything he wants.

[@wdp1a73r]

sounds like something mephiles would do, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[@jacobweatherford4696]

@@JustVince7810 he also will be angry because he cant merge with iblis anymore to become solaris again, they could even give the infinite fans some pandering by having mephiles resurrect him in some way (phantom ruby powers intact) and the two would hunt shadow.

[@33pandagamer]

I heard of this one theory that The Time Eater is a remnant of Mephilis.

[@mituskey]

If this game was actually finished,bugs gone,more solid movement , it could've been among the best

[@lesnarahamilton5674]

shockley i didn't have much problems with mine maybe its why it's one of my favs

[@mituskey]

@@lesnarahamilton5674 Good for you man. Having a good experience gaming is what it's all about

[@lesnarahamilton5674]

@@mituskey i think i it about 3 glitches but nothing like i hit on mass effect andromeda....god that was funny as hell

[@mituskey]

@@lesnarahamilton5674 I gotta disagree there. The game has a lot of issues due to rushing the title.

[@lesnarahamilton5674]

@@mituskey i think you named every game today

[@AuthorSharuru]

Eggman:"BECAUSE WERE EGGMAN HEROES!!!" Mephilis:"YEAH!" Infinite:"YEAHH!!!!"

[@reneablackheart9563]

I would buy that game

[@bacarrakris5432]

* que intro song *

[@zalz]

Maria pops in and somehow destroys all 3

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Classic Sonic XD

[@rumeysaongul4765]

💢Zalzion⛼ XD

[@OminousBlast]

Wow this is amazing. This also helps explain Mephiles' love/hate relationship with Shadow

[@tylergonzales8946]

Another way to look at the love/hate relationship is, and I’ll admit it’s extremely unoriginal in many ways, the relation between Batman and Joker. Both of them loathe each, but in a twist way they complete each other. Joker needs Batman to be whole as both the part of the reason he’s insane, and the few things he finds fun in life (which also includes his twisted sense of humor).

[@roses77chainsaw]

"Go on Shadow.. Don't you support Gay Rights?"

[@xSharpW]

00:01 "Hahahaha...Welcome to Tilted Towers."

[@andrewcarlson3486]

Memphis needs to return

[@Catfishade]

In loving memory of Memphis Tennessee

[@editri9]

Technically shadow did beat mephilies when he took out his rings. Plus we haven't seen sonic truly fight mephilies because he killed sonic using a sneak attack

[@yu-nee4642]

He didn't. Mephiles used all that as a distraction which Shadow fell right into. After Shadow appeared to have won Mephiles appeared somewhere else entirely to distract Sonic with a chaos emerald and kill him.

[@pabli8155]

Mephlis used sneak attack.... Its a critical attack!!!

[@MK-bi1hj]

@@yu-nee4642 the issue with this issss. WHY TF WOULD SONIC JUST STARE AT THE CHAOS EMERALD???

[@gigi_1015]

Yeah agreed

[@ColeCrossman2.0]

@@MK-bi1hj because it was sending out a blinding light to distract him.

[@aidankeogh9994]

Mephiles is unbeatable without the scepter or complete timeline erasure. He's literally immortal.

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Aidan Keogh Yeah, and the scepter is broken. Hopefully it'll be fixed if Mephiles ever returns. :D

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@@rumeysaongul4765 And seriously just because villains are defeated doesn't mean they're going to stay gone for good they always come back. The only way they do stay gone is if they're dead and none of the Villains Shadow Sonic Silver and their friends defeated in The Sonic Series are dead but why haven't they come back? That's impossible because they're not dead

[@nathanieldardar4295]

My theory: when Infinite was traveling through history to recruit some of Sonic's past enemies, he stumbled upon a separate timeline. He notices how strong Mephiles is and brings him into the main timeline. However, he brought the Mephiles that just got released from the scepter, because that would be the easiest version of him to keep under control.

[@naetearcanjodasilva5185]

Infinite Actually Created Clones Of Past Enemys.. not recruit them.. and the timeline that mephiles existed was erased.. so he cant be found in sonic's History if you dont use the time eater.. -_-

[@Morbius-Tension]

Then he would betray him probably

[@VampireSonic555]

you've gained my respect for Mephiles' background, he's a great character with so much potential....too bad SEGA kill him off because of Sonic 06

[@mistamemewide]

*Mephiles Returns* Mephiles: Man its good to be back... now who's my new partner. Infinite: Me. Mephiles: Oh, and who are you? Infinite: Call me Infinite. Mephiles: Oh, so you're the new... "Edge King"? Infinite: Yes. Mephiles: So, wanna get a beer? Infinite: Sure.

[@DeltaBlazin]

10/10

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Stephen Reed The duo xD

[@rambles_central1397]

Lord danny: "a game hated by all" Me: excuse me B, sonic 06 is my second favorite game.

[@blue-eyeswhitekirbo2543]

So what is your favorite?

[@jobat1971]

It's not bad

[@bluewind3170]

For me is my favorite game for me is look like sonic adventure 3

[@byrnetheartyrannus6999]

Nani uwo Lord Danny: a game hated by all Me: never played it and kinda don’t want to but MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE

[@gulafeoner6644]

And... Why?

[@MetalMedallion24]

Though Mephiles is very maniacal, he still makes me want to get this 06', though it's very criticized.

[@lorddanny2988]

*get 06, it's really good*

[@MetalMedallion24]

@@lorddanny2988 I've had Nintendo consoles all my life, but I can't wait for the remastered fan remake! 😁

[@MikeAndRevioAdventures]

@@MetalMedallion24 It's still a work in progress. The Sonic and Shadow stages are already completed. The Silver stages are either being made or the project is on a temporary hiatus.

[@Michael_Afton40]

6 years later Kishimoto teases his return saying "Like Infinite. Mephiles is also a very attractive character in mainstream titles! So I think there is a possibility that it will appear in future titles. I think you can feel that from the fact that past titles have begun to connect with this game(Sonic Frontiers) "

[@trainerflowey2729]

Two words for the Fandom to save Mephiles. FAN. GAME.

[@YourLocalNintendo]

real

[@stairbanastor2765]

'A game hated by all.' except me :^)

[@ninjachief547]

spicii_ Or me.

[@MrMadRealms]

spicii_ or me.

[@Sonic171K]

That was a dumb part. Should have said "A game hated by the majority." but decided to fail.

[@MattheGamingRebel]

I actually love '06, it uses elements that I really wish they'd not abandon just cause it doesn't get well received, the big one being, NOT PLAYING AS JUST SONIC.

[@Basher.G]

And me

[@smithasundaram9696]

My take is this : Just before Solaris was defeated Mephiles tried to escape from his body and painfully succeeded . The part where Sonic and Elise blew out the flame was actually an illusion made by him. Then Sonic and Elise were locked in another dimension filled with clones replacing the normal characters. This would explain Shadow suddenly becoming an edgelord, Tails being a fraidy fox, Knuckles becoming dumb and Rouge becoming useless

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

@Destructo_The_Void_Destroyer Yeah just because villains are defeated doesn't mean they're going to stay gone for good because they always come back.

[@daneyal7162]

YESSSS!!!! I want this guy to make a comeback!!!! I'm sickin' tired of seeing Eggman as the main villain over and over again. I miss the days in which Sonic battled lovecraftian horros like Perfect Chaos, Solaris and Dark Gaia. Bringing back Mephiles would improve the series A LOT!!!😀

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

Dan Eyal I'm like that too just because Eggman is the main antagonist doesn't mean he should be the only villain.

[@joseconstanza8277]

Hell if they bring him back i wouldn't minde a remake of his story mephiles is my only favorite villains in sonic but i honestly like the part of a time god backstory but the defective clone would be interesting

[@catastrophiccandy]

This could actually even fit in the 06 timeline. After the events of Shadow The Hedgehog, the 'goo' was splattered around the Earth, one part of it wounded up fusing with Iblis' core and form the flame of Solaris, while the other 'goo' simply got absorbed by the Earth and eventually reached Dark Gaia's dormant state, which made it easier for Eggman to unleash it over the world (I still find it weird how a Dark God can be woken up by one beam from the Chaos Emeralds). And after Dark Gaia was defeated, the goo again rose to the surface and remained in that state until GUN found it. In the timeline where 06 didnt happen, the same thing happens except the 'goo' never reached the core of Iblis.

[@trainerflowey2729]

Hey, note about Silver. When the timeline continues after Solaris is erased, Silver is still born. Crisis City could be Soleanna, and maybe is. Silver is still born there, just at a different timeline. Yes, it's a timeline fracture in a timeline fracture.

[@Aniga34574]

"Mephiles has some strange obsession for Shadow the hedgehog." I wonder if it had something to do with Shadow locking him in a handle size prison.

[@jazzhands8525]

You should ask devientart what that obsession is

[@FrostTheHobidon]

That never made sense to me. Shadow sealed Mephiles 10 years ago and was always meant to do so, but there is one problem with that. Shadow was still asleep in Prison Island during that time, it makes no sense. If you say Sonic 06?not a reboot, then Shadow must of woke up for 40 years went to Solianna help the duke seal Mephiles away and then went back to his sleeping tubes for 10 years where Eggman woke him up for the events of Sonic Adventure 2 Time Travel is Bull shit

[@Aniga34574]

@@FrostTheHobidon Other than bad writing, you could argue that this timeline iteration is not the 1st, 2nd or 3rd. The best example is that both Silver and Blaze came from the future to fix the past. Since they are from the future, any intervention that they have to the past means they are making a new timeline from then on. Same thing when Shadow and Silver when further back to origins. Now, depending on how you think Time travel works, can depend on how things would actually play out. I'm running on the idea of anchor points in time, where if you go and kill your young 20 something grand father in the past, and then go back to your time, Nothing has changed to you or your 70 something grand father who's still being a $#%¤. But the past will now run a time where some rando(you) killed your grand father and that will play out as if everything is normal, your parent and you will not exist in that time. Before the game's timeline that we play, there probably was one that the two never came to the past, practically granting Mephiles an easy win to all this charade, with the minor inconvenience of not being able to fuse with Iblis. Before that, he probably had to figure out, with little foresight, on how to get to Iblis. Maybe princess carrot legs death acts like a powerful containment cell that he couldn't breakthrough, and Iblis would essentially be locked until he grew to a state to not only be free, but also unable to fuse. He probably found the best direction was through shadows intervention on accident. So multiple attempts with that must have showed the best type of results, making his obsession on shadow like a key to an unorthodox piece to an elaborate puzzle. This still doesn't explain away the broken game or shotty writing. But yeah, Time Travel stories are bull shit when used sloppily, their just a bitch when done right.

[@gigi_1015]

Maybe because shadow is one of the most powerful characters in the whole franchise

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

Because he’s his fortnite boyfriend

[@riley_-zm8vr]

an idea i came up with one time for how mephiles could come back would be a game focused around silver, where silver and mephiles somehow survive the timeline getting rewritten but mephiles is in a more broken state. both get flung into different points in time, and while fighting off mephiles silver has to warn the other characters about mephiles because all their memories of sonic 06 were erased. this could allow mephiles to come back and could also allow silver to come back without the future needing to be ruined for it to make sense in the story, silver technically isn't supposed to exist in the current timeline, so it doesn't really matter what point in time he goes to. also from silver's perspective this story would take place directly after sonic 06, and then at later points he would travel back in time for things like sonic colors ds and sonic forces, despite those games chronologically taking place before this. silver surviving the timeline being rewritten could be explained away by the combination of his psychic powers and him being in a super form at the time.

[@megaman37456]

Honestly if Mephiles came back I'd think they'd have to do it Dan Phantom style, with Mephiles existing outside of time itself, but Mephiles and only Mephiles is able to return where Iblis is left to oblivion. This gives Mephiles a reason to return because much like Cell, Mephiles was robbed of his true form, and would attempt to systematically hunt down and destroy those responsible. If I'm being real if Mephiles was advertised as the main villain of a new 3D Sonic game, regardless of his VA, I'd pre-order that shit even if the game was a buggy mess, because Mephiles is the ONLY Sonic Villain to ever make me cringe in nervousness and anticipation for a battle.

[@katelynthewhitewerewolf6376]

megaman37456 Oh I like Danny Phantom especially The Ultimate Enemy with Dan Phantom.

[@PixelTheRetro]

I think Mephiles saying to Shadow "your powers are limited" that he is talking about Inhibitor Rings. Shadow knows that and then realise that removing them will unlimit his powers. And thus making the most epic scene in Sonic history.

[@thetardisgamer4032]

Well well well. This aged like fine wine didn't it?

[@nerdthoughts6681]

That is a great origin and story of Mephilis, dude👍

[@space457]

"As a gamer, I don't get respect." - Mephiles, 2019

[@Ismael-kc3ry]

Go on Shadow. Don’t you support gay rights?

[@bluesmallspark]

I checked through the comments and jesus Christ there are a lot mephiles is infinite comments

[@brandonallison9354]

He kind of did return: in sonic generations the time eater is a piece of mephlis slipped through the cracks of time and space

[@xr4y44]

Brandon Allison That's not official. The Sonic comic chief said that.

[@fanoffandoms5910]

But it could work in the games.

[@SSG_Ronnie42]

Well since the Paradox has been opened in Generations...it could have lead to him escaping with the scars of his near destruction, became Infinite in Sonic Forces.

[@xr4y44]

SSG_Ronnie42 "... became Infinite..." Definetly not! These two don't fit together

[@AltanStray]

XR4y ??? - Killerclowns sind cool c: well let's look at the similarities:3:06 please tell me that you know what sign those chaos emeralds make! Not to mention in crystalline form dark aura on the two(mephiles and infinite)characters?*checks quickly* yep!Faster than sonic...umm...I don't know.red eyes with the green pupils?Yep!Also the entirety of infinite's theme?lots of contrast with darkness weapons destruction murder suffering kinda sounds like everything that was listed in this video...HMMM!Hey Infinite mind taking off that mask for us?Also tail's reader can't understand infinite...maybe because he doesn't belong in this timeline...Also THAT GRAVELLY VOICE!They both have it.I think mephiles has made a comeback...and this time it'll be good!

[@comicfan1324]

Here’s an idea. *Mephiles could be a paradox.* Think about it, the timeline may have been reset, but there’s still reality out there where ‘06 happened. You can’t erase history, you can only rewrite it. (Or at least in the Sonic series.) It’s been said that sonic, silver, and shadow have very vague memories of the events Sonic ‘06, so that means they haven’t completely wiped out... unfortunately... so Mephiles could just come from another timeline

[@thegamingwolfkingofthemult37]

That's a great idea! I like the sound of it!

[@BulletBillSoilder]

And then Mephiles could be a plot point for 2017 if sega went down this new backstory route

[@suzieclark2174]

Smasherfan88 what if Mephilies is sonic 2017s "new character?"

[@hermananderson5884]

Smasherfan88 that's a greater idea

[@jurassicsouls3439]

i dont know but I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM RETURN

[@xr4y44]

Smasherfan88 This backstory is bad.

[@Cirrusfire]

Baka La Baka um.. guys? I think this is reality!!!

[@amandaacosta9615]

A simple backstory is mephilies unmerged with iblis befor the candle was blown out

[@NICKatronMC]

0:04 Not to mention the fact that it was their first encounter, so many villains plotted to kill Sonic and failed multiple times…Mephiles simply treated this as a simple step forward for his plan

[@Prestano]

How could 06 not be canon and still have silver(highly underrated by the way), I thought that was the first game with silver, so how could we have silver without the 06 game

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Prestano kraus He had a second debout in Sonic Rivals. The current Silver is the one from Rivals series.

[@totallynotcannonproduction9130]

my back story for mephiles is that Dr Gerald robotnick created a failed shadow along with the biolozard but mephiles escaped

[@_Tzer]

someone make a fangame like this

[@blank8197]

HOLD UP ONE SECOND....INFINITE AND MEPHILIS HAVE THE EXACT SAME EYE COLOR

[@Cruddy129]

No they don't

[@Xylluk]

They both have red eyes and a green iris

[@sorufa888]

CBear624 they actually do, specifically Mephilis crystalline and Infinite

[@JuicyPolarBear]

Cobi : HOLD ON

[@claigeannccda302]

Light Winds Animation Productions Z not true. Mephiles’ eyes are green and reptilian. While infinite’s eyes are yellow versions of metal sonic’s eyes.

[@33pandagamer]

I have heard of this one theory that The Time Eater is Mephilis. I feel like it would be a cool concept.

[@DARamosYT]

Pretty cool reimagining of the character's backstory. Didn't quite like him to begin with as he was yet another "hedgehog" looking dude. But revisiting now, he is a good villain.

[@maximillionare7547]

Personally I think sonic team should do like a redo of sonic 06. Same characters, same locations, but they fix the story and gameplay to replace the original 06 as canon.

[@hermananderson5884]

you just gained you self a new subscriber

[@AuthorSharuru]

Really?!

[@MephewJ]

Ok. Seriously. Mephiles could just pop out of ANY timeline (depending on how SEGA sees timelines - as just one string, so that when one thing is changed it IS definitely changed; or as many strings, so that if you would go back in time and change something you would just create a new string, a new timeline but the old one still lives on). Hmmmm...

[@statickdagamer2948]

I like Sonic 06

[@jonahriveraluciano4050]

StatickDaGamer Mines too.

[@katelynbodiford5680]

@@brettthewolfhunter5151 I do too and Mephiles and GUN are better and more exciting villains than Eggman I don't even like Eggman as the main antagonist he's so boring. Also he's a loser.

[@amagicalbeing7427]

Ne too

[@gaminganimators7000]

@@katelynbodiford5680 yeah

[@MisterHandsomeChris]

Here's an idea, instead of changing his origin, Sega can do what they did with Shadow in Sonic Heroes, have Mephiles get resurrected by an evil genius like Eggman, and if the new game he appears in turns out to be a sequel to Sonic Heroes and Sonic 06, they can have Metal Sonic developing a new form while going rogue again, and the two villains can even join forces with each other at an attempt to destroy everyone.

[@Dabi15574]

He could have the same backstory but we have to change the events in 06. He could have travelled forward in time to escape his death then he could come back in an unexpected game in 2023 or 2024

[@Alex_T_Dragon]

too bad he didn't return on Sonic forces or maybe because he's the only powerful villain, that Sonic didn't fight against

[@thebiolibrary5572]

There's only one. Single. Possibility. Infinite. Our mister mystery, shrouded in edginess. He apparently got Zavok, Chaos, Metal sonic and Shadow on his side, dispite two of which currently inactive and one sided with Sonic. It's possible that Infinite's power spreads to creation of clones, including Mephiles and other dead characters, such as Black doom, the other Zeti and Gemerl, just to name a few. But, like I said, he's a mystery. Maybe he can create characters that don't exist, or maybe it was some sort of machine made by Eggman (he could probably do that, he created the Egg Colossi, but that could possibly be covering them in indestructible plating) that revives beings and another device that can control minds.

[@tavanradke5778]

There's another possibility. The Shadow that we see in Sonic Forces could actually be Mephelis, It's pretty easy for Mephelis to disguise himself as Shadow considering that He is A clone of Shadow, and why would Shadow be evil? He's been on the same side as Sonic for awhile now. Or I may be completely wrong.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

Tavan Radke that could happen, but "mephlies" has no mouth and other unique aspects. However, it may be possible he just looks like shadow from a distance slash he's disguised.

[@tyellis4047]

What about Iblis?

[@katelynbodiford5680]

Storyboard Mephiles the Dark is my favorite Sonic Villain character he's way better than Dr Eggman and he should return for real and for good in the new Sonic games. After all because nothing can stop him from coming back after all no defeated villain stays gone or defeated for long they always find a way to bring themselves back.

[@_Tzer]

the phantom ruby messes with the chaos emeralds in mania that could do something

[@MegaNumberXIII]

Huh, you just managed to make my favorite Sonic villain even cooler. :D Nice work.

[@jacobweatherford4696]

when mephiles transformed for his boss battle i legit thought he was created by black doom to kill shadow so we could use something related to that too if possible

[@tbone_steak5254]

What if Mephiles actually comes back to posses the custom character?

[@PerfectSonic1998]

My brother once told me a great theory he had. His theory was that in the Sonic universe, when things are erased from existence, they go to the a place Infinite claimed he made, but in reality, was a place in between time; Nullspace. He then said he believes Infinite is Mephiles’s servant, and is trying to get him out. And finally, he says Mephiles even created the phantom ruby itself, in order to control Infinite’s mind, the only reason he lost in Forces is because despite controlling Infinite’s mind, he couldn’t control his ego, and at the end when Infinite escaped, it was because Mephiles was summoning him… to punish his servant for disobeying. I really like this theory, and I hope something similar happens in a future game.

[@officielalex]

at 3:06 we can see The infinite symbol which could mean that infinite = mephilis

[@mr.fantastik4755]

Oh shut up

[@randomgeek95]

Alexandre Paquier That would totally make sense!

[@IBL15]

And he says: "You must realiteetit now that you cannot hope to stop me with your LIMITED POWER."

[@seaweed7640]

this is infinite nibroc-rock.deviantart.com/art/Infinite-Unmasked-Render-716270508

[@yamiemii1522]

@@mr.fantastik4755 no u

[@AtTheCrossingProductions]

In all honesty, they could say he events seen Sonic 06 never happened, therefore Solaris was never erased. It could happen

[@doom_7558]

i think an idea would be that due to the phantom ruby's existence this would be a perfect time to wrap some things together for example an idea would be to have the phantom be a "fail safe" for solarises destruction,this would make sense with the powers that the phantom ruby holds (time manipulation,reality warping,meshing the past to the present ,able to make clones of different people [before you say the phantom ruby was destroyed,no the phantom ruby remakes were destroyed the phantom ruby was sent back in time as shown in Sonic mania plus])

[@elijahkitchens1523]

Hey Sega, if youre reading this: DO THIS PLOT!!!! Not only would you bring back a villain that is both awesome yet terrifying at the same time, but would also possibly show more of the Black Arms as a whole, i.e. how they came to be, culture, etc. Lord Danny, I bow to you for this wonderful idea fpr Mephiles' return!!!

[@lildon8389]

0:43 WE NEVER TALK ABOUT THAT!

[@EricoTheFandomWonder]

The New Backstory For Mephiles You Gave Towards The End Of This Video Was Very Well Done & Very Interesting, I Love It! :):):)

[@absoluteomnis4833]

this all fits and justifies reasons for Mephiles's actions

[@TheBohobemeister]

*stands up and applauds* Well done, good sir! Well done! That's a very wonderful theory!

[@ETGames-mh3vh]

This idea is actually pretty good and very plausible. Great work!

[@Fluminox-]

My dream came true man

[@CiderVG]

Mephiles' physical form does not HAVE look like Shadow He used Shadow's...shadow to create a physical form He could look like any other character if he wanted to

[@kingsombra4053]

Also if you think about it the sonic 06 silver timeline returned in sonic generations, meaning it is possible that mephiles could return without having to change his back story

[@a.l.p.h.a.6094]

Mephiles HAS returned. Despite being erased from existence, he broke through the bonds of Space and Time to have his revenge. He is now known as Infinite.

[@fusithememe8696]

Eeeeyyyyy! That's some deep lore searching :D

[@a.l.p.h.a.6094]

+ThejetermanRBLX I thought it worked, since Infinite is surrounded by glitches and seems out of place with reality. To each his own I guess. :)

[@ZS7_115]

Where would he get the phantom ruby? Plus why would mephiles be involved with our custom avatar?

[@icaruslukas7041]

I think infinite is some guy possessed by the phantom ruby.

[@CarlJohnson-gq8hw]

*No*

[@destinylord7194]

Lord Danny Infinite looks a lot like mephilis. Maybe he could be a reincarnation of mephilis

[@lorddanny2988]

Possibly. I will eventually get back to uploading videos and I will probably do a video about that, but I actually want to play Sonic Forces first before any theories can be made.

[@mintysauce7783]

Destiny lord no he's just some random guy. Even if he was he would be a reincarnation of Solaris not mephiles since mephiles is only half of Solaris a fact which people always ignore annoyingly.

[@ThatElusiveCobra]

@@mintysauce7783 yeah he was erased as Solaris

[@pausebreak9222]

He is NOT INFINITE IF INFINITE EPISODE SHADOW CONFIRMS IT

[@JustazagZ]

I just noticed he's kind of similar to Goku Black

[@RedGoji]

Sonic Fans: WE HATE SONIC 06!! Sega:Fine then, Say goodbye to Mephiles! FOREVER!! Me:Oh how Ironic Fate can be.

[@SeiJunichiro]

A plot twist that would actually kind of make sense that if Infinite is Mephiles.

[@stel7425]

3:07 the chaos emarlds are moving in a 8 pattern maybe mehilbs is inafinf in Sonic forces

[@viniciusmonado8205]

cool dude gamming Infinite has the same eyes that Mephiles have

[@stel7425]

Vinicius Madeira wait are you agreeing with me

[@viniciusmonado8205]

cool dude gamming Yeah, and it's not a 8 Pattern, it's a INFINITE pattern

[@reneablackheart9563]

My favorite villain Mehilbs, yes, and his downgraded clone, Inafinf. Perfect

[@AHun-t]

You intentionally misspelled things didn’t you?

[@thetruej7872]

If Shadow 2 or when the next Modern Sonic game happens and Ian Flynn does the story, I think Mephilis should be the main villain and have a good explanation on how he's back.

[@omnicross4834]

This aged badly

[@kunlesanders]

I wish Shadow could meet Mephiles the Dark again for future Sonic the Hedgehog video games.

[@ЛестатДарк]

I think that bringing back Mephiles as "G.U.L.F." a.k.a another Shadow clone is a dumb idea. It isn't necesary for him to look like Shadow when in the curent Soninic storyline he can take form and cooperate with someone who will share his destructive nature, like Infinite for example.

[@tgtvtankmode1712]

Short answer.... yes

[@TheRealEvilRoy]

Amazing, now when did you say this game was coming out?

[@noisyphilosopherkrk522]

You know I just realised this could be used as something that could occur down in both timelines if sonic (if we were to consider mania a timeline junction point)

[@Harold-Saxon]

In my opinion Mephiles and Zavoc are REALLY underrated characters because SEGA waisted SO much potencial of them and I really liked them

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Miłosz Kowalczuk But they keep bringing Zavok back while trying to forget Mephiles existed.

[@SilversChannel1]

Mephiles in Forces the way Zavok and Chaos were seemed to be his last chance.

[@shaneliles5712]

I mean, I can think of ONE WAY that Mephiles could still exist. It’s worth pointing out that each timeline has it’s own separate, alternate timeline. What if Solaris still existed in a different timeline, and somehow made it into Sonic’s current timeline? I know this is basically pulling a Trunks, but it would still work.

[@njfox3305]

If I may I have a better idea. mephiles and solares were successfully erased from existence but Mephiles being the intelligent time traveler he is had a back up plan in case solarus fell. Before sonic was killed mephalis was almost defeated but he started making a plan B first he cloned him self and hid it in the past, then killed sonic to awaken ibles and become solares after solarus fell the clone awakened as mephilus planed but with out the host the clone was unstable and became the time eater. I belive if my thearys currect mephiles can return once hes regained his power and intelligence that was lost with solarus and the host.

[@njfox3305]

@@MonsterDeath What if the clone was hidden in a time before solares was exstinguished? wouldn't that save it. its time travel remember its full of loop holes and paradoxes its hard to make anything make scense in it.

[@B.L.E.S.S.E.D.]

Honestly as much as I would love to see Mephiles Return to a sonic game or the movies or show I feel like he will just be ruined by this newer generation of movies and games that’s what happens to most of these characters who die or disappear then get brought back

[@remilamb9527]

That is a really good idea for a backstory!

[@Sun-en2po]

mephiles in the game right now Sonic Forces Speed Battle

[@ToaCody1]

"Go back in time in people's memories." There's another suggestion for how to bring Mephiles back: just give him the Imagin treatment.

[@amandaacosta9615]

and he could obsorb sonics shadow for trying to kill him and when he goes into his second phase he will probally still look like his second phase in 06

[@jamiegameplaythrough9485]

Or what if a fragment of Mephiles remained?

[@Dr_Lunitix]

yes, Sonic Forces Speed Battle

[@x-mighty7602]

"Evilest"? Is that even a word?

[@Shane_Leath]

The way I see it from a Story perspective is that even if the events of Sonic 06 were erased from existence, Solaris was not. Solaris is a God, and you can't erase a God from existence because they made existence. And since Solaris is a God of Time along with Fire, he would remember the events of the 'erased' reality and would be VERY angry and want revenge, however, he did not go unchanged. In this new reality, Solaris never existed instead it was Iblis God of Fire and Mephiles God of Spacetime. Since Mephiles remembers the events of the 'old' reality he now seeks revenge on the hedgehogs who cost him his victory. From a SEGA Executive standpoint though, the one I'm not a fan of but is more likely, they're not going to touch any concepts or characters introduced in Sonic 06 with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole. The sole exceptions being Silver coming back to at least story relevance in Forces, though that's debatable, and Crisis City coming back for Generations. I'd love to see Mephiles return in the future but if they do they'll either have to make a new backstory, alter his existing one, or keep the existing one and use a variation of the God of Spacetime explanation I gave. I rewrote 06 so that Mephiles, out of pure rage induced insanity, interfered with the reset and recreation of reality and is implied that he's still out there. Don't know if I succeeded in the implication bit though but that's what I tried to do and confirmed it in a Silver focused story I wrote.

[@rumeysaongul4765]

Shane Leath Makes quite sense but technically, the Solaris that's fusion of Iblis and Mephiles isn't the Solaris kniwn as a God in Sonic 06, it's a project led by Duke Of Soleanna that just named after Solaris. That's also why even though Solaris was erased from the Sonic ymtimeline, Soleanna still existed. Silver was re-introduced in Sonic Rivals and the current one we have is Silver from that game who had almost the same story but with a difference. If they want to bring back Mephiles, that could also be a chance.

[@MetalMedallion24]

I feel like because of Crisis City in Generations, the Time Eater theory, and his mini-appearances, hopefully he will have a grand return in a future game. Mephiles' crystalline form freaked me out because the only thing I remember from him is when he took out Sonic. The hardest thing about his portrayal would be trying to get Dan Green back.

[@singriioticstudios]

You made some good points and I love that backstory but honestly I think that Mephilis is infinite from what Sega said we've seen infinite before and besides he's my favorite villain but even if he's not infinite the way to bring him back would be your back story you need to go take that to Aaron Webber or Sega or whoever is in charge of Sonic

[@chrisfraser8505]

Shadow could beat mephiles if he have taken off the inhibitor rings.

[@sallahdaniels6385]

My backstory is this (If a game qith Melphesis happens again Shadow NEEDS to be the main character in order fo my storyto make sense all the way.) Melphesis was erased.. but he created a backup plan if he died of any cause. So he made the time eating monster in Generations it destroyed parts of the timeline and sampeled old ones like the 06 timeline. When it revived the sample timeline Melphesis was brought back. When the time eating monster died... Melphesis survived because of the White Void when Robotnic and Egg man survived... He put ideas in both of their heads so they can make an escape route without Melphesis being detected. Years pass Melphesis finds Shadow and enters his mind undetected.. he put thoughts into his mind corrupting his mind about Maria, GUN and past timelines by talking through his shadow (reason why he has Shadows form.) Shadow would be absorbed by these thoughts and attack Tails and scream "06" while Shadow is crying. Melphesis (black goop form) would come out of his eyes and mouth and turn into Shadows form. Melphesis would say "Again with this world..." Melphesis would teleport out with something beyond chaos control while leaving Shadow weakened.

[@itsPlasma06]

... Mephiles... his name is Mephiles...

[@sharzinlalebazri5673]

Or we could go the lazy route and say "You haven't thought that there was only one mephiles in only one timeline... have you?"

[@mekhi3819]

TBH I think the Backstory Danny said could be the new and actual backstory if SEGA approved of this

[@violetcore1813]

I think Mephiles totally could come back. Sure, Solaris was blown out and erased, but here's some food for thought. Does Solaris' erasure apply to ALL possible timelines, or just this one? Perhaps, Mephiles (and, by extension, Iblis) still exist in an alternate timeline. I imagine that, if Mephiles returned, the explanation could be that he somehow learned how to travel BETWEEN timelines as opposed to between multiple points in one timeline. (Time travel's weird, OK? That's no secret.) Who knows? If anything, just put him in Sonic Forces: Speed Battle on mobile already!

[@ghostyroasty5564]

This aged well