JK Rowling will never sell the Harry Potter rights

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Council of Geeks

Council of Geeks

Жыл бұрын

As Harry Potter products continue to be produced, there appears to be a lingering hope among some fans that an entity like Warner Bros. Discovery might buy the rights wholly from JK Rowling. And I'm going to be the jerk who explains why that's not a hope worth holding onto at this point.
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@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 Жыл бұрын
Do....do people really need to be told this? I mean, *OF COURSE* she won't sell it. Why would she? Why would anyone think she would?
@CouncilofGeeks
@CouncilofGeeks Жыл бұрын
Desperate hope mostly.
@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 Жыл бұрын
​@Council of Geeks I'm still confused by this. Almost everyone buys products from companies that do much worse than what Rowling's doing. Why is Rowling's transphobia the one that's so important to people? Why will people who advocate boycotting Harry Potter still buy products made from slave labor?
@rachelbecknell4259
@rachelbecknell4259 Жыл бұрын
Wishing and hoping, because they love the Harry Potter stuff and wish it could continue without hurting trans people.
@1vaneligbruker
@1vaneligbruker Жыл бұрын
david guetta sold his back catalogue for 100m. He didn't really need to do that. He is earning more then enough. Only benefit is that he don't have to think about it. Selling sync licenses and copyright takedown.
@Steve-wo7gt
@Steve-wo7gt Жыл бұрын
I mean, would you?
@RubyGirl378
@RubyGirl378 Жыл бұрын
Homer Simpson becoming a Tumblr Sexyman is more likely than J.K. Rowling selling the Harry Potter rights.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Hey that actually is very possible homer simpson becoming a tumbrl sexy man.
@SarcyBoi41
@SarcyBoi41 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Homer is already a Tumblr Sexyman.
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 Жыл бұрын
He has already been made Father of the year.
@SadBnnuy
@SadBnnuy Жыл бұрын
What a dilf 😂
@TrueWhovian82
@TrueWhovian82 Жыл бұрын
George Lucas was actually kind of a genius when it comes to the rights he retained. When Star Wars was first coming out he actually gave up his rights to payment from ticket sales in exchange for all payment from toy sales. The studio assumed all the money would come from tickets and the toys would flop, so they took it in a heartbeat. Needless to say, the toys sold better.
@SherlocksLeftNipple
@SherlocksLeftNipple Жыл бұрын
We spent two decades praising her and defending her right to have full creative control of the Potterverse. We fluffed her ego and made it abundantly clear, if she isn't involved, we wouldn't touch it. There is no way in Hell she's ever letting go of this thing, for love or money. It's her baby. Her world. Hers. End of. And we, the fans, kinda helped make it that way. She'll cling to that clout and control with all that she has, because it's all that she has. It's her trump card and her crutch. So, whoever is dumb enough to think she'd ever sell the Potter franchise, should just accept that she's going to be involved until the day either she or this IP dies.
@Yukinoomoni
@Yukinoomoni Жыл бұрын
"We, the fans"? Speak for yourself.
@Him_He_Me
@Him_He_Me Жыл бұрын
lm not a fan, but dont call them dumb
@Yukinoomoni
@Yukinoomoni Жыл бұрын
@@falconeshield Most of us who were and who know better now aren't, though.
@Yukinoomoni
@Yukinoomoni Жыл бұрын
@@falconeshield Yes. Have you not grown since then?
@broadbeans90
@broadbeans90 Жыл бұрын
She'll cling to it, because it's hers. If People want to continue consuming the media, then they need to get over themselves and accept that it belongs to her If they don't like Rowling, don't support the material. It's that simple.
@scottbutler5
@scottbutler5 Жыл бұрын
"I disagree with JK Rowling so much that I hope someone gives her four billion dollars" feels like a weird sentiment to me.
@scaper8
@scaper8 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but I can see some of the wishful thinking behind it. "They'll pay her four billion dollars. Then they immediately turn around and make something legitimate good again that we can enjoy with needing to take a shower or using mental gymnastics to enjoy. It makes eleventy birzallion dollars in return. She eats all the humble pie." It's an absolute fantasy, and I doubt that anyone actually believes it, but I can understand the fantasy.
@Black_pearl_adrift
@Black_pearl_adrift Жыл бұрын
@@scaper8 I still don’t see how it could be good to pay a transphobe 4billion dollars just so people can enjoy an old franchise again
@matheussantana2390
@matheussantana2390 Жыл бұрын
​@@Black_pearl_adrift A franchise that is problematic on its own, mind you, and I say this as someone who holds Harry Potter very dearly to my heart. Our best hope is the extinction of intelectual property, which won't happen.
@tamarbeker1701
@tamarbeker1701 Жыл бұрын
Honestly? People don't actually want the things that they believe in to happen. They want an opportunity to act upon those values.
@mahogara
@mahogara Жыл бұрын
I still love Harry Potter but I'll be the first to admit how problematic a lot the things in the books are, and well they weren't that well written either. I have never felt a need for more Harry Potter though. Despite being the creator of it, what makes the whole wizarding world really special for me is the fanmade works, fans' creations, not JK Rowling. I haven't reread the books or rewatch the movies in years. And I'm not gonna consume any new official content from the IP either (whether JK is involved or not). Because every possible storylines or what ifs I could think of, an amazingly talented fanfiction writer has already written it. And usually the official never would make something exactly like I'm wishing for, unlike fanworks (more genuine representations, more understanding of the topics discussed, well-reseached approach to sensitive subject matters and so on). I may be oversimplifying it, but if you want more HP, why not just check out fanworks? No profits is going over to JK Rowling. You can still immerse yourself in the magical world. And sometimes with even better plot, writings and character developments. Instead of wishing for official projects untouched by JK Rowling?
@TheMuppetDon
@TheMuppetDon Жыл бұрын
Gorge Lucas actually sold Lucasfilm to be able to spend more time with his wife and at the time unborn daughter, 'it was really hard for me to do this' he said 'because I have spent the last 40 years of my life on this' . He had also been writing scripts for episode 7,8 and 9 and in the sale they went to Disney, but then Disney scraped them and started again.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
I’m not what GL expected from Disney lmfao
@LookItsTy
@LookItsTy Жыл бұрын
The only way she would sell it is if she became completely broke and had no other choice. I just love that I grew up in a family that were (when I was a child) heavily Christian so much so to the point that I was not allowed to watch Harry Potter or read any of the books. When the first movie came out in theaters I remember my family and I went to see the movie Cats Vs Dogs and the ad for HP came on and I was literally forced to close my eyes by my parents. They were your stereotypical Christians and a part of the driving force against JKR at the beginning of her career. She claimed to stand for the little guy and the children who related to the little boy under the stairs. Making it seem like she cared about LGBT kids because who doesn't feel like that at one point in their journey as a queer youth? Fast forward to now and after all those years of bible thumping. I am now ten years on T and nearly fifteen years out as trans. My family came to their senses after my parents split up and we no longer sat miserably in the church. I was able to come out and teach my parents that we trans people are not evil and are infact deserving of love. My parents are my biggest supporters and I am forever grateful for that, but it's so ironic to see this past icon of freedom of thought and speech become the VERY THING that was working against her all those years. She has become exactly like them minus calling herself a Christian outright. To be honest she allowed herself to fall into an awful crowd of women who all turned themselves into martyrs due to how the working world and the man's world treated them when all they were trying to do was get a leg up in the world. Really they are just a bunch of sad and jaded old bitter ladies now who have too much time and too much money to know what to do with so they spend both of things on making other people miserable just like they felt all those years ago. Congratulations JKR on becoming the very thing you hated back in the 90's and early 2000's. I guess the old saying you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain is too true with her. As I have said since the very beginning of her crap that we should starve her out of any and all attention. When she tweets don't engage with it. When she writes books don't buy them. When she gets involved in new movies or shows don't watch them. Starve her out of attention and money and then maybe one day she will either change her tune or sell HP forever. Sorry for the long winded reply. My coffee is both working and not working today lol.
@corneliahanimann2173
@corneliahanimann2173 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed reading every sentence of this. I am happy for you, happy you hape support and glad you're content with this life. I've realized after the last contra points video that I'm kinda checked out with this topid. This woman has not released anything wprthwhile in the past 10 years and she knows it. Her fantastic beasts franchise is discontinued, her cursed child book is rubbish, and really the only thing she has going for her is that she gets to burn at the stake for being a bigot, qnd gets celebrated for that. I'm kinda over it, this is actually kinda funny that she is cursed to hold onto this old franchise, because even that has become outdated. Frankly I believe the videogame is so successful because she is not involved in making that. I'm done with this one, but still enjoy reading from people like you and your journey. I hope you're well 😊
@LookItsTy
@LookItsTy Жыл бұрын
@@corneliahanimann2173 Aww thank you. I was in the middle of a very hard and long move across states so I didn't this comment until now. I also have to agree that she hasn't been involved in anything worth watching or reading since she wrote them last HP book and now if she involves herself with anything HP related most of us know it's going to be garbage in one way or another. I'm also quite over her and eventually (much like with a lot of authors) she'll fall back into oblivion and no one will really utter her name again. Until then people like myself will just have to continue ignoring her and letting her make her own bed to lay in. Thanks again for the kind words. It's not every day you run into someone so kind. I hope you're also doing well. Take care out there.
@MrFearDubh
@MrFearDubh Жыл бұрын
Vera, you brought up a point I hadn't thought about: that incorporating every scene in the books into the TV series (as I'm told she-who-shall-not-be-named insists upon) means adding a lot of problematic things that weren't included in the films. If she continues to require that, I don't see "Max" doing that TV show.
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. Order of the Phoenix would have to be like, 20 episodes. And most of them would just be Harry eating breakfast or worrying about heartthrobs (that book was way too long).
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbarber6177 The first half of Deathy Hallows will be just camping.
@gamehero6816
@gamehero6816 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny when people say "separate the art from the artist," especially when it comes to J.K. Rowling. How do you separate the art from the artist when the artist actively refuses to be separated from their art? That's J.K. Rowling- an artist who will never be separated from her work until the day she loses her grip.
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 Жыл бұрын
I always thought ‘Death of the Author’ was more of an interpretative, ie, the Author’s opinion on a work has no more and no less bearing on the work than someone else’s, as in J.K. Rowling’s opinion of what Harry Potter means isn’t more conclusive than your own. I don’t think it was supposed to mean ‘the Author doesn’t matter, just enjoy it anyway’.
@DisabledDragon
@DisabledDragon Жыл бұрын
​@Samuel Barber Pretty much. It's a literary theory that could be used to talk about things like Dumbledore's sexuality (for example), or a lot of the other issues in-text involving marginalization. It's relevant if you want to talk about the value of the book on exclusively literary terms, but yeah, even that can be tricky when that value is so difficult to extract from the author's platform in dealing with real life issues. I don't think IPs even worked the way they do now when the theory was introduced. Actually, I'm pretty sure they didn't, but I don't know what they were like at the time.
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelbarber6177 Yeah, people have taken that term too literally, and not enough literary.
@furthings
@furthings Жыл бұрын
I don't believe you know the meaning of that phrase :'0
@davidabercrombie5427
@davidabercrombie5427 Жыл бұрын
In the unlikely event that she did give up any claims to the property I dont think it would make much of a difference. She's so heavily involved in everything up to this point that she cant be separated from it, even if she were to pass away. All of us, current and former fans, need to realise how things stand.
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos Жыл бұрын
About Neil, he actually knows trans people and he is always willing to learn and get better. As an artist as well as a person. I had to pleasure to have lengthy conversations with him at multiple times during the last 3 decades. His body of work is a good example for better works by better people. It was great to see him update Sandman not only for screen but also for today. Good Omens Season 2 is going to be great and Anansi Boys is shaping up to become what American Gods sadly wasn't. Don't get me wrong they managed to expand it in good ways and had some great moments. Devery Jacobs, Dana Aliya Levinson and of course Dominique Jackson killed it. Casting Brian Warner sadly backfired as we all remember. The parts they took streight from the source all worked very well. Personally I wasn't a fan of changing the point of view to Laura Moon's for large parts of the later seasons. Anyways what I think of as Neils greatest strengs is that he works well with others and has respect for everyone unless given solid reason not to. He's just a good egg and one of if not the best storry tellers of our times.
@sharonoddlyenough
@sharonoddlyenough Жыл бұрын
Anansi Boys was the first Gaiman novel I read, a battered paperback left on a little book shelf in the breakroom of a retail job. I have since read everything else that I could get my hands on, but that one holds a dear place in my heart.
@saraa.4295
@saraa.4295 Жыл бұрын
Enjoying Harry Potter, without grappling with Rowlings "politics" (i feel hate should not be called politics) will maybe be possible in 100 years, even if she sold the property.
@Lia-uf1ir
@Lia-uf1ir Жыл бұрын
27:27 I literally grew up with Harry as he did. I was 6 when I read the first book. And Harry and I had a lot in common: bullied at school, being rather thin, wearing glasses. As someone who loves fantasy, these books hooked me from the start. And then the author started tweeting stuff against people like me, against trans women, just shortly after my internal coming out as a trans woman. It was a painful loss and I can't deny that I was a fan, that the series meant such a great deal for me. It is the truth, it's just a fact. But it doesn't mean that I have to stick with it. I haven't bought more stuff, and I won't watch the TV series, I haven't played HL. And whatever new stuff including merchendise comes out, I don't have to buy them. I don't even like merchandise anyway. The only time I bought it was because that item meant something deeply personal to me like finally having a Marauderer's Map prop after creating my own version as a teen. I bought it because I finally had a chance to see up close how close I had come to the prop. Stuff like that. And there are lots of other stuff I could buy that isn't transphobic or where the author saw their flaws like Neil Gaiman's The Sandman. Also, ironically, the author was one of the people to inspire me to write my own stuff and if I want a fantasy story about a secret wizarding society, I can write one myself and, unlike the Author Who Must Not Be Named, I can do some actual research on some topics where she hadn't but REALLY should have!
@philmarland7647
@philmarland7647 Жыл бұрын
I guarantee that you haven't got the first idea what she actually tweeted, fella.
@hogg8888
@hogg8888 Жыл бұрын
​@@philmarland7647 😂😂😂😂
@emmamacfarlane8137
@emmamacfarlane8137 Жыл бұрын
I think I saw some leaks saying that J.K. Rowling did have a lot of early input on Hogwarts Legacy that was downplayed.
@loganwilliams7635
@loganwilliams7635 Жыл бұрын
It's hers, she made it, she deserves it, she can do what she wants with it. Her opinion doesn't change anything in the real world and you buying or not buying her old or new materials doesn't make a difference either. Her selling it doesn't change anything either she is and will always be the one who made it. 99% of people obviously don't really care either way, so why all the bother?
@cayreet5992
@cayreet5992 10 ай бұрын
Because it's not about 'she made it.' It's about 'she profits from it' and 'she can use those profits to finance action against trans people (and everyone else she doesn't like) with that money.' Not to mention it's also about 'the IP makes her relevant in pop culture and society' which gives her the means to effectively act against people she doesn't like.
@teddybetts3254
@teddybetts3254 Жыл бұрын
For her to sell it, they would have to give her more money than Disney gave George Lucas for Star Wars.
@Steve-wo7gt
@Steve-wo7gt Жыл бұрын
Putting aside her views on trans people aside, why would she? She's got a gold mine not only for herself and generations of her family. From a financial perspective, she'd be stupid to sell the rights.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t actually need to own the IP to make money. At this point her money makes money. Unless she tanked literally everything she owned in some unbelievably stupid way her money is tied into multiple properties and investments probably. Of all the things she is, stupid isn’t one of them. Controlling the IP at this point controls what gets done with it now and in the future. It’s about that more than her kids never being broke. Her kids wouldn’t grow up broke even if she sold it tomorrow. Also, the books are fully hers no matter who has rights to produce films or TV about it. She gets residuals from the park as as well. There are multiple layers of separate contracts that would have to be wrapped into a HUGE deal to fully sever her ties from Harry Potter.
@Venemofthe888
@Venemofthe888 Жыл бұрын
It feels like a no brainer for her like she is still making money of her own creation and yh its her own creation shes more in control of it than people might think. Putting her agenda aside, she made this world and a creator i feel would have worries on what others would do with it to either tarnish or make it even bigger. Roald Dahl was very hesitant about his creations becoming films when he was alive even hating the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory adaptation especially with it being renamed as well. He hated it so much he was taken of the film project i believe cause he was so hard to deal with but again it was his creation and he saw what others were doing and didnt like it. If theres money to be made especially if its ongoing why would you sell the rights and for JK she has made it clear that her and her artwork so to speak cant be separated
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Which is weird as the second movie is way less good. But the first one is known to be very osychodelic and dark, which i thought dahl liked.
@okanidug6035
@okanidug6035 Жыл бұрын
Why would she? Its her world, her books, her story. Anyone is free to not watch or read anything by her but I dont understand why ones view would change doing anything with HP is she owns them or not. Either way you are enjoying something from JK. If you are unable to seperate your view of the artist from the art, it shouldnt matter
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 Жыл бұрын
Well she’s openly spreading hatred and misinformation of a minority that was already experiencing a lot of hatred and now more ant-trans sentiment has risen, discriminatory acts and anti trans violence has risen? and laws that target trans people are becoming more common. So yeah some no longer want to associate with her or her work as she’s likely the most famous person in the movement. And even if it doesn’t do much in the long run, to some it feels better to just not contribute even a penny to her anymore.
@islasullivan3463
@islasullivan3463 Жыл бұрын
Basically you’re right it shouldn’t matter, but unfortunately it does matter.
@patrickbarrett7536
@patrickbarrett7536 Жыл бұрын
Rowling doesn't need the money, she already has enough that she would have to put considerable effort in spending it in her lifetime. What she gets from owning the HP franchise is relevancy or at least will until WB drops the rights, which I think is a distinct possibility but only within the next 10 years or so.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын
Even if she did sell it, she would still be worshipped as the ‘creator’ of Harry Potter. Her money makes money now, she doesn’t need to do much to never be poor ever again. Her power comes from the title ‘creator of Harry Potter’ alone.
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame Жыл бұрын
WB was always going to stop licensing HP at some point because it wasn't going to make money forever. Her toxic behavior may make that day come sooner than later though. Not that it matters to me. She's poisoned Harry Potter for me and I can't see that changing.
@spews1973
@spews1973 Жыл бұрын
it's been a sad journey from hoping JKR had just made a silly mistake on Twitter, to hoping she'd see the error of her ways and apologize to realizing she's just a committed 100% transphobe. If it were up to me, there would be no more adaptations of Harry Potter until all the books are in the public domain all over the world. But I know that's not going to happen. So, yeah. Don't buy any more Harry Potter stuff because Rowling sees it as validation of her hateful views. If that makes me part of cancel culture, so be it.
@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 Жыл бұрын
I'm still confused by this. Almost everyone buys products from companies that do much worse than what Rowling's doing. Why is Rowling's transphobia the one that's so important to people? Why will people who advocate boycotting Harry Potter still buy products made from slave labor?
@elisehalflight
@elisehalflight Жыл бұрын
A lot of those companies provide a product necessary for living, aka: clothing, food, fuel, etc. Harry Potter is not a necessity, it is a luxury, you can live off without it. And if you think that fast fashion, expensive rare foods and the car industry are also luxuries... Well, there are a lot of people advocating against them, many trans allies are also very conscious about climate change, city planing and the harm of fast fashion and they advocate for government regulation
@Cesaryeyo
@Cesaryeyo Жыл бұрын
@@adamdavis1648 Becuase she has made that her whole thing. You can't research every little product you buy, even if you did it's likely you woulnd't be able to find or afford something that isn't made by some horrible company who does horriblye things. There's also a lot of problematic creators of beloved media (Joss Whedon, for example). However, Harry Potter is not necessary, and its creator has made it her very public and explicit life purpose to fight against the rights of trans people, she has become the most well known voice and champion of the anti-trans movement in the world, that's her whole deal, and she wants everyone to know that. You don't se homphobes with "I Stand with Orson Scott Card" in their bios, Joss Whedon doesn't use the residuals he gets from Buffy to donate to racist organizations or at the very least doesn't post on social media having brunch with those organizations and doesn't have a twitter account dedicated to it. That's why Rowling is different, thatis why Harry Potter is different, she wants everyone to know where your money is going when you buy those things, and it's going to finance a genocide.
@broadbeans90
@broadbeans90 Жыл бұрын
​​@@adamdavis1648 people are hypocrites who like to pick stupid hills to die on. 'I won't put money in this hand, but I will put money on that one.' If you have honour, you stick to your convictions. I used to enjoy football, now I don't watch it following the world cup, and seeing more and more calls from grass roots support for 'blood money' to fund stupid wages and transfer fees. Trying to cancel Rowling is like the right trying to boycott NIKE, it's an exercise in futility...the only thing any of us have control over is: A.) Which battles we choose to fight. B.) How we treat people who don't care about the things that we care about.
@JoanneLuckduck-dt6pr
@JoanneLuckduck-dt6pr Жыл бұрын
Silly Simon. What exactly had she said that is transphobic??
@gozerthegozarian9500
@gozerthegozarian9500 Жыл бұрын
17:10 Before production began for the first HP film, Robin Williams - THE Robin Williams! - called Chris Columbus and begged to be cast as Hagrid, but Columbus had to decline due to JKR's "No Yanks, Brits only!" rule. I still think Robin Williams would have been a wonderful, pitch-perfect Hagrid. Another, more sinister aspect of Rowling's insistence that HP be a purely British production was that she and Warner Brothers successfully lobbied to change the laws that protect child actors in the UK, so that Radcliffe, Watson and Grint could work longer hours and more days. Thanks to JK Rowling, UK child actors today are at greater risk of exploitation than they were before HP was a thing.
@spilchsaysstuff1427
@spilchsaysstuff1427 Жыл бұрын
Actually, that was Warner Bros. Rules for child stars then were more rigid in the UK, so Warner Bros was threatening to take the production of the movies to California. The rule change was that child actors could work past 3:30pm, but they had to work less days a week. As for the no yanks thing, I agree with that. Harry Potter is very quintessentially English.
@spilchsaysstuff1427
@spilchsaysstuff1427 Жыл бұрын
And as great as Robin Williams was, he would have taken us out of the movie. Robbie Coltrane was the only actor JK insisted on, and had the idea of him before the idea of the movies came about. And I agree. The two choices for Dumbledore however were less successful.
@ianstewart-vital
@ianstewart-vital Жыл бұрын
Honestly that is one thing that I love about Neil Gaiman. He grew, evolved, and is doing his best to make sure what he creates is good and respectful. I am so glad that Sandman got renewed for a season 2 with him having the level of control that he does.
@MoramothHauntz
@MoramothHauntz Жыл бұрын
I saw this video pop up and thought "No duh." I didn't realize people were entertaining this idea though
@numb3r5ev3n
@numb3r5ev3n Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this. I was one of the "she's probably going to have to sell it if the spinoffs continue to do badly!" commentors on the other video. You're right, and at this point she would probably refrain from selling it out of spite (knowing that the people she hates and has attacked would be able to enjoy the property again if she did sell it.) It was just some wishful thinking on my part.
@Ryan125y
@Ryan125y Жыл бұрын
How can the person that invented polyjuice potion, be against people transforming into the people they are most comfortable being
@nancyjay790
@nancyjay790 Жыл бұрын
I am a writer (not published, may never be). I understand the feeling of possessing something you've written. Even the most hackneyed, trope filled piece of schlock takes a bunch of effort and thought and time to make it. These characters and the world in which they exist are often about as real to their writer as family and friends (although I am not saying anyone mistakes reality from fiction). The best characters seem like real people you could meet, have understandable and relatable motives, and particularly are that way especially for their creator. This is why when any adaptation of a work is made, if its creator is still alive, usually the creator isn't happy with the adaptation, to greater or lesser degrees. And Rowling has shown us how possessive she is.
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I mean everything toxic about JKR aside, she did write a series of books that are her literary ‘babies’ and I honestly think it’s okay if she doesn’t want to sell it ever and wants her kids to inherit the rights. As hard as I know it is (I was a hardcore Harry Potter fan even in the earliest days of her transphobia leaking through) the only real solution is other books. Instead of expecting her to give up her work, find other things. We made Harry Potter huge as fans. And if fans who are pushing her into ‘selling’ or wishing she would sell or are pirating so ‘they still have Harry without benefiting her’ literally just spent 15 minutes in a book store they’d be shocked how many books exist about wizards and how many wonderful recommendations they could have of EQUALLY good, if not better, book series for there fellow fans. I would love an ‘if you liked Harry Potter read this….’ List to trend.
@matheussantana2390
@matheussantana2390 Жыл бұрын
​​@@TheDawnofVanlife Although I agree with there being better book series, the thing with Harry Potter is nostalgia. I have problems with Rowling's prose style and some plot holes or deus ex machina here and there, but still find myself watching the Prisoner of Azkaban (illegally downloaded) as a comfort movie. I personally don't support Harry Potter anymore, but it's forever a part of my childhood.
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDawnofVanlife true. I was a massive Harry Potter-fan as a child. I watched all the movies, read all the books. Now, I was already growing out of it by the time of J.K. Rowling’s nonsense (and I think by then I’d already read some of the Percy Jackson books), I still harboured a lot of love for the franchise. People really should branch a lot more with the media they consume. They might find something great that wasn’t written by a horrible person.
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDawnofVanlife I was never into HP i have only read the books in 2016 and i will say i enjoy the first 3 the 4th one was meh but the last 3 OMG i hate despise loath disgust those. But i do like watching non HP book recomendations and i found an number of books i really love the Percy Jackson serries and the Supernational Investigasion serries are 2 i perticular love.
@nancyjay790
@nancyjay790 Жыл бұрын
@@magunra3k If you write, you are a writer. I have had small newspaper and magazine pieces "published", for which I received no money and only three bylines, although the publications do have my name recorded so if there had been any problems or concerns, I could be blamed. I also distinguish the term "writer" from "author", which usually holds more regard. Vera is an author. Not probably a highly recognized author, but she is one. However, it doesn't really matter. I am sorry to have troubled you, or anyone else offended by what I commented.
@lukecarlson4710
@lukecarlson4710 Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say how much I love your customary outro, I love hearing you say it every time even when the videos are difficult. Have a good week Vera.
@dieCG
@dieCG Жыл бұрын
She will never let go because it’s the only property that keeps her relevant. The other books she has written only come up in discussions of how she solidified she’s transphobic. Those books hardly ever have mention, because the controversy isn’t hidden. HP keeps her in the spotlight, because it was a beloved property that so many enjoyed before she decided to hell with it, come out as a complete terrible person, and so there’s all the discussion around if the property is redeemable. She absolutely enjoys weaponizing the discussion as a point of personal victimhood. Not trying to diminish her past, but she definitely uses it to say “Oh, woe is me! I’m continually attacked by everyone! Just because I hate transgender people! I can’t get a break! Happy Terfmas, and I’m laughing to the banks with royalties over how victimized I am! Boo hoo!”. It’s really a dark laugh to see the people that used to condemn her works suddenly embrace them. And now that they are her support chamber, she has waddled over to them so far as to brunch with them. Harry Potter is done for me. It really sucks, because I got SO MUCH enjoyment out of it. I had all the books, movies, some merch I purchased, gifts from others, I loved the sense of fandom community, and that’s all dashed because JKR thinks I shouldn’t be able to exist as a nonbinary individual. First world problems? Sure. But I will carry that grudge of, if anything- losing the camaraderie I held with others with loving that fantasy world. It’s forever tainted.
@Stephen-Fox
@Stephen-Fox Жыл бұрын
Let's be fair - The last of her thrillers did lead to discussion about her ablism, and what a garbage fire of a book structure it had due to all the tweets in it and how they were apparently used.
@dieCG
@dieCG Жыл бұрын
@@Stephen-Fox : As I mentioned, it was briefly discussed as it did solidify her transphobia. However, HP will always be her lifeline to relevance, because it was from the “before times” of her losing her collective shit, and going full on bigot without a modicum of shame.
@auggiet8380
@auggiet8380 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way you do. I had all of the movies, the books, tons of merchandise, even a Gryffindor letterman jacket. I ended up throwing every bit of it out and feel pretty bitter towards the whole thing now.
@auggiet8380
@auggiet8380 Жыл бұрын
@@CSPORTPDX 😂😂😂 yeah okay.
@dieCG
@dieCG Жыл бұрын
@@CSPORTPDX : Even if this story was true, no one “accidentally” misgenders a person so much that they get canned in LESS THAN A WEEK. Also, that fake ass story has shit to do with what I typed.
@christineherrmann205
@christineherrmann205 Жыл бұрын
Notch and Minecraft was the example that I thought of when you said a lot of commenters were talking about JKR selling HP. I saw a video all about what happened with him AFTER he sold, and realized JKR has already damaged her IP, and - conversely - used the CRAP out of it for her platform. I think you're completely right.
@rachelbecknell4259
@rachelbecknell4259 Жыл бұрын
Intellectual property actually gives you what my teacher for an IP class told me was a "bundle" of rights which the author can sell individually and still retain ownership of some of them.
@JennaGetsCreative
@JennaGetsCreative Жыл бұрын
I agree, Rowling voluntarily selling all rights anytime before her retirement years at the earliest is extremely unlikely. If I replied to any of the speculation with "wouldn't that be nice," it was definitely a wistful acknowledgement that it WOULD be nice, not a sincere hope of the possibility. When all this Rowling stuff started coming out, I was still trying to be a Booktuber, and I considered doing a critical readthrough to point out all the flaws, but I never did. I put my books in a cupboard in this office almost immediately and replaced many of my photos on platforms because they books happened to be visible on a shelf in my selfies. Back in December I packed up stuff to put into storage and those went in the first box. I still own them, but they aren't even in a place that would be simple to access now. And I'm still salty that I'd just replaced one of my books like 2 months prior to the first tweets. My sister had been visiting , she saw I had our hardcover copy of CoS which is her favourite of the series, and asked if she could take it. I let her, using it as an excuse to indulge in a Ravenclaw edition. I've never opened that copy.
@edsterrock
@edsterrock Жыл бұрын
I know some HP fans that are buying Harry Potter products through either swap meets/flea markets or buying fan made merch from queer creators. So I know their is a way to still consume HP without giving JK Rowling a dime. But will she sell the rights? I always though if Universal goes forward with their purchase of WB, then maybe they might invest into buying the rights from Rowling. But after seeing the tv series announcement, I honestly don’t even know anymore at this point.
@auggiet8380
@auggiet8380 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you completely. Also, unrelated, but that hoodie you are wearing while shouting out your Patrons at the end is fantastic and I need one lol. You look amazing.
@isaganipalanca8803
@isaganipalanca8803 Жыл бұрын
When she said Dumbledore was gay in her mind for years before she came out with the fact when it became convenient for her, reminds of Trump "declassifying" the top secret documents in his mind after the fact...
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame Жыл бұрын
That was the beginning of the end for me when it came to JKR. It's not that I objected to Dumbledore being gay but it just seemed too convenient to announce it after the fact with no indication in any of the books. And then she just kept going...Wizards poop in their robes... and a bunch of other nonsense. Also, after saying Book 7 was the last time she'd write about this world, she then revealed Pottermore and wrote some more HP-adjacent books... At some point, I decided she didn't respect her fans and stopped paying attention to anything she said. I'd pretty much forgotten about her when the Fantastic Beasts movies were announced. Then she joined the cult of TERF-dom. And now, she's dead to me. The end.
@annavafeiadou4420
@annavafeiadou4420 Жыл бұрын
Why everyone hopes she sells the rights , no matter what she says or does wishing a mega-corporation to take the rights is not progressive or does anyone think that the people the shareholders in warner are more progressive than her they just are measuring their words better to not provoke and cause sale drops she speaks more freely cause she doesn't really care if sales drop as much. If someone wants to continue enjoy the franchise but not having to do with her there is fanfic and the already done books and movies if one doesn't want anything of those there are other authors. If today people pressure an artist who is far-right to sell rights to a mega company tomorrow the far-right will pressure every left artist to sell their rights to mega-capitalist companies. Just let her go read Steven King!!
@Mowingthefrontlawn
@Mowingthefrontlawn Жыл бұрын
With the announced remake, it got me to realize I didn’t want a remake or any new content even without her involvement. Video games are the only new content that doesn’t feel like beating a dead horse to me, but we’ve got plenty of those already. Hogwarts Legacy, although I haven’t bought it and don’t plan to buy it officially, was very pro-trans and from what I hear good enough that we don’t need another game. It’s over. I’m happy to rewatch the films. If WB wants to do more HP content, release the deleted/extended scenes that are in a vault somewhere. No need to continue to associate with this walking PR disaster. Even reactions to the remake from the general public that aren’t aware of JK’s bigotry are mixed to negative because the films are very good already. WB has enough HP content to profit for a while. If it weren’t for their greed, they could literally do nothing and still make money.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Arr mate. Also technically you could habe like skyrim harry potter mods and that. And mod a harry potter game if wanted. I dont know if that mods exist but there is a high chance. Oh or terry pretchet or percy jackson. The magicians is good too as good stuff that isa goodstory , about a magic college and narnia, and adult, a lot mental health and darkly fun. Books and series are different but similar.
@KetilK
@KetilK Жыл бұрын
The success of the game made sense because there was something new, but I am almost certain that a HP TV series rehashing the same story as the films will go the same way as the fantastic beasts films. A high number of views for the first episode(s) of the first season, but the novelty will quickly wear off, it will be too similar to the films, and the viewership will plummet. I am almost certain that we won't get a third season, and even a second season is questionable. I don't believe the reboot is the safe option, but rather an almost guaranteed failure, and that the influential people at HBO is too blind to see it. I care a lot about HBO doing well on their Game of Thrones related stuff like House of the Dragons, Dunk and Egg, and more, so I really don't want them to lose too much on the HP franchise, but I want the HP franchise to become irrelevant and forgotten.
@jimjamuk1973
@jimjamuk1973 Жыл бұрын
Bottom line is if she isn't involved then it will become like the Rings of Power and be absolutely rubbish so great she is still involved
@patd25
@patd25 Жыл бұрын
Good luck getting a bunch of kids born in the 2010’s to sign contracts guaranteeing they’ll appear for 7 seasons on a tv show. Just as with the movies there will be inevitable recasting, but it will be much more obvious on tv.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
Should of made it an animated series.
@patd25
@patd25 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Also any kids you cast now will be aware of who JK is and know what sort of person she is. and will all know people who she targets. Fame matters to that generation, but, image matters a lot more.
@GamerWho
@GamerWho Жыл бұрын
It's all she has, and she knows it. I am happy to let it go. There's tons of better franchises out there.
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that but just out of curiosity wath franchises do you like ?
@GamerWho
@GamerWho Жыл бұрын
@@poppie267 My Hero Academia for instance does a school fighting power-hungry super villain very well.
@roryfenelon1546
@roryfenelon1546 Жыл бұрын
considering all the comparisons to the george lucas disney buyout i think it's important to point out that a significant amount of the 4 billion lucas received was in disney stock (making him the second largest shareholder). considering that warner discovery current financial state is definitely a lot worse than 2012 disney's, it's basically impossible for them to finance such a large buyout without the majority of payment being in stock (not that this buyout would ever really happen). so people feeling guilt free about consuming harry potter products in a j.k rowling buyout world, wouldn't really work considering that a significant amount of those profits (if we're still going of the example of lucas 2.2 percent) would still be going to rowling.
@ZoeMalDoran
@ZoeMalDoran Жыл бұрын
I can't remember if I actually posted so before, but I am so glad I never got into Harry Potter in the first place. I think my primary franchise created by someone who has since become problematic is Buffy (and Angel) , and even then I'd acquired all my DVDs and books before Joss Whedon became publicly known as an intensely horrible person. I can (and do) still watch the DVDs and read the books, but I have no interest in acquiring new merchandise
@mariaaguadoball3407
@mariaaguadoball3407 Жыл бұрын
Thr thing about Buffy & Angel is that yes, Whedon created them & developed the central concept, but there were so many other writers, like Jane Espenson & Marti Noxon, who massively shaped the characters and stories. And of course the actors, directors and crew contributed enormously. So I have no problem still loving that world. He was never the sole creator.
@ZoeMalDoran
@ZoeMalDoran Жыл бұрын
@@mariaaguadoball3407 Hmm. A reasonable approach :)
@mrdubplate9601
@mrdubplate9601 Жыл бұрын
Of course she won't sell, and I hope she doesn't.
@capriciousnature8921
@capriciousnature8921 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, she's most likely never going away, and even if she did, her name, choices in the book and life, have permanently soiled HP.
@brelleine
@brelleine Жыл бұрын
I Do DO predictions, mine is that if she has control over the new series, it will be propaganda. She said somewhere recently that we the readers didn't really understand the books if we are pro human rights. That trans ppl are dead eaters, I believe this could be her opportunity to set the record straight because what you said in the video Vera, of her leaving Hp alone and the new writers making it left leaning, pro trans. could very well go the other way.
@AndrewTaylorPhD
@AndrewTaylorPhD Жыл бұрын
I think for me the difference between this and something like Minecraft where the creator sells *before* becomingly known as problematic is that when Microsoft bought Minecraft they didn't know what Notch was like, so their buyout didn't deliberately hurt anyone, whereas if WB gave JRK billions of dollars, that would directly hurt trans people and I couldn't reward that decision by buying the resulting products.
@satan3959
@satan3959 Жыл бұрын
Then why hasn't Disney changed it's name, and disavowed Walt Disney, despite the fact that Disney was a known Nazi sympathizer and antisemite? Yet people still flock to Disney products as if its original creator wasn't a racist piece of shit
@TroyColey
@TroyColey Жыл бұрын
Harry Potter IS her platform, not any website like Twitter or Facebook.
@Indigo42Kitsune
@Indigo42Kitsune Жыл бұрын
I wish that J. K. Rowling hadn’t come out as being anti transgender, because when I was a young girl undiagnosed on the autism spectrum and dealing with issues around sexuality, attraction, just wanting to make friends and having to deal with boys who I only saw as friends who wanted to date me, along with feeling neutral about my own gender identity. Her books meant a lot to me when I was younger, so finding out that she is going out of her way to attack a gender minority has been extremely difficult for me to accept. This has gotten harder because one of my friends is transgender and I want to do what I can to be supportive of her, and right now I do agree that that means not buying anything that would end up supporting J. K. Rowling.
@casualcraftman1599
@casualcraftman1599 Жыл бұрын
Just watch Hilda & The Worst Witch instead.
@terencesilva4499
@terencesilva4499 Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone want more of this franchise it's been done after the last movie was premiered no one is saying for more why can't jkr get that
@aminyassin1250
@aminyassin1250 Жыл бұрын
I'm not trans or anything. But every time I look at my HP books or see the films between channels I have a bad inner feeling inside. I guess the lesson here for all of us is it's not healthy to idolize any human being to the point of making them your "god", which I did for JKR. Irrespective of the endless debate whether she's transphobic or not (I guess each one has his or her personal opinion or feeling based on what they read from JK about the trans issue) I think what troubles me the most is the rhetoric exercised by JK when she says "I'm financially immune and culturally acknowledged that I don't care about what you think so go ahead and burn my books and boycott my TV show". This rhetoric doesn't match to the JK I once liked, the humble, the dignified, the quiet. But being a drop in the ocean why would she care what I think.
@thanosgallagher4433
@thanosgallagher4433 Жыл бұрын
The "quiet". That is a very problematic thing to say
@joeyunderwood
@joeyunderwood Жыл бұрын
yes. yes. yes. this all sounds about right and some of it i’ve not even thought about before.
@Katie-mb8zj
@Katie-mb8zj Жыл бұрын
I can think of a few timelines where UmbRowling might have sold the IP. First one, alternate timeline where the rights were bought out early (most likely during filming of the movies). This may have resulted in lower quality movies (think the original PJO or Eragon movies) or an incomplete book series depending on when in the process rights were bought. The second way would be if her thriller series was bringing in just as much, if not more, clout than Potter. At this point, it is not likely yet it is the most likely scenario I can come up with. The final way I can think of off the top of my head, is if Potter is so far into “final death rattles” that she has to completely sell the rights in order for Potter to even stand a chance at staying relevant. While two of these timelines are still physically possible, none of them are probable enough for me to even consider disagreeing with your original argument.
@picklewhop
@picklewhop Жыл бұрын
Hey this is kinda random and unrelated but I just wanted to let you know I think you're a really cool person and the way you explain your thoughts and ideas are really inspiring and helpful to me.
@PaigeSinclaire
@PaigeSinclaire Жыл бұрын
Why couldn’t she just have been like Enya? And live quietly in her castle and leave everyone alone
@kartheyansivalingam7927
@kartheyansivalingam7927 Жыл бұрын
If you read the article you cited, the 74% profit dropped by Bronte Film and TV was due to the Cursed Child shows closing during the pandemic. Harry Potter Theatrical Productions is a subsidiary of Bronte Film and TV. Strike is all things considered a very successful book series as well as a successful adaptation. 5 seasons with the sixth season adaptation underway and it also consistently has great ratings (at least in the UK on BBC, not sure how well it does in the US on HBO) Also it seems like you constantly try to make it seem as if the Wizarding World franchise is heading towards its demise when all the numbers say otherwise, I would argue that the franchise is at the height of its popularity since the end of the movies. Philosopher's Stone was the most downloaded audiobook worldwide on Audible in 2022 and did you also know that the four most borrowed children's books from British libraries in 2022 were all Harry Potter (the remaining 3 were also in top 25). I guess those stats are somewhat notable because it shows the franchise is still growing and new fans are always coming on board.
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
New fans are always coming on board Well Sherlock that is the case with every franchise.
@kartheyansivalingam7927
@kartheyansivalingam7927 Жыл бұрын
@@poppie267You don't think its notable that a book written 25 years ago was still the best selling audiobook last year? All whilst the books also continue to top multiple different best seller lists. For a franchise of this size and diversity (across different age groups and gender) with significant global appeal (not just to the English-speaking world) to not only maintain its popularity but actively grow all whilst people call for its downfall is somewhat special I would say. My main point regardless of everything else is the Wizarding World (nor the fans) isn't going anywhere no matter how much you whine and call for boycotts on Twitter.
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
@@kartheyansivalingam7927 well well someone need a chill pill my dear bully. I am not even an fan in the first place are you alwasy so short tempered or am i just the lucky one 😘
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
@@kartheyansivalingam7927 I think it is wise to see a doctor BTW being quikly angry like that can be dangerous for the health.
@kartheyansivalingam7927
@kartheyansivalingam7927 Жыл бұрын
@@poppie267 I'm confused on how you interpreted my response as "angry" but sorry if it came across that way. Also I don't need mental health advice from people who think there are more than two genders or those who think their gender identity is more important than biology but thanks anyway for looking out.
@EmeralBookwise
@EmeralBookwise Жыл бұрын
Even if she did sell it, the amount of money she would get out of such a deal would only make her potentially all the more harmful... and it's still not going to entirely disconnect her from the property. I mean even after selling Minecraft, people still go around asking Notch questions about what he thinks of the current state of the game or his opinions on actions Microsoft has been taking with the property.
@corneliahanimann2173
@corneliahanimann2173 Жыл бұрын
i am actually not sure what this conversation is about with minecraft, I still play the modded versions. What happened?
@pinkdiamond1847
@pinkdiamond1847 Жыл бұрын
​@@corneliahanimann2173 Notch isn't a woke crybaby and therefore he's hated.
@corneliahanimann2173
@corneliahanimann2173 Жыл бұрын
@@pinkdiamond1847 Well that was like, a good degree of shade that is appreciated but it did not answer my question at all...
@WillTuliv
@WillTuliv Жыл бұрын
I don't expect her to give it up. I don't expect her to lose the rights, or have them taken from her. The idea was a comfort though. I liked the idea of a future HP/Wizarding World series with well depicted trans, non-white, and disabled characters. That was before the game came out though. Around that time I started getting.. really hateful comments. People wishing for me to die, and telling me to stay away from children (because I'm nonbinary and my mom is trans). And then my state started passing more anti-trans laws. And I'm just.. done. To meet Harry Potter was my Make-A-Wish as a child, and that trip remains one of the best moments of my life, but that world, that fandom, whatever you want to call it has no place for me, it doesn't want me, so I don't want it anymore. ... There are other witch-school franchises that filled the void for me for a time, but now I'm into scifi and OFMD. :)
@Veela666
@Veela666 Жыл бұрын
The fact that I want a Slytherin set of Harry Potter books UK print, but I can't find them used and in mint condition is so sad. 😭😭😭
@seanfulldark
@seanfulldark Жыл бұрын
Minor question and this is surely on business scale: wood(can't remember the proper spelling right now) companies like Lego also drop the rights if Warner Brothers dropped the rights? Part of me thinks no but then again Lego might not have much of a Sell price tag at the park to make the Lego sets viable enough to continue reproducing and making new versions. Especially if universal goes with the rout of promoting Nintendo land and probably making a branch for Sonic because they just recently released the Sonic legos! I mean I know Lego is ungodly wealthy but it is a minor question that makes sense to me besides I feel like they could probably switch to keeping most of the products the same by just branching to Wizards of the coast or if Disney actually does sit down and make Doctor Strange magic school?
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 Жыл бұрын
Hmm. They could and have similar but legally distinct creatures. That by the way also come from mythologies. And dr stange isnt snape, but he is iconic enough.
@CouncilofGeeks
@CouncilofGeeks Жыл бұрын
So that will depend on the specifics of the license that LEGO has. In other words, the question is whether they're licensing the IP or whether they're specifically licensing the WB owned version of the IP. It does appear that it's the latter, so what would happen there would have to be hashed out by lawyers as WB would likely no longer be allowed to merchandise the films they made. So the question is whether LEGO would no longer be able to license that specific incarnation at all or if they're able to hash out a narrower or reworked fee. Or they could just start shifting the designs and change the logo to not clearly be the WB versions. It would be messy in any case.
@herbivarsawus4359
@herbivarsawus4359 Жыл бұрын
My friends sister HP tattoos years ago, including a big one down her calf. A cautionary tale about tats I s'pose.
@beatafulop7213
@beatafulop7213 Жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, I find some hope in imagining a future generation for who we are but history with issues that are already closed, and who will be able to read and enjoy Harry Potter as a big, though obviously flawed classic of a bygone era. I know that I will never be able to enjoy it again myself, no matter what happens, this stain won't go away. But somewhere a century down the line, there are people who will. And that's a nice thought.
@Corlock78
@Corlock78 Жыл бұрын
I agree that as things stand now, Rowling will not sell. If the trend of HP properties continue to trend downwards she may continue selling HP as that may be the only way anyone agrees to make new HP content. Other option is she may not trust her kids or a trust with managing HP into the future. Part of the pitch to Lucas by Disney was managing the future legacy of Star Wars. That could work on Rowling but in like 20 years, not now. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure she won't sell. But there are scenarios I could see it happening. But they are unlikely.
@johnydl
@johnydl Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that supporting the work after she's sold it (so long as she's still alive) doesn't solve the problem, you're then supporting a company which is happy to give Millions to a creator that's hurting people directly or indirectly, you're in effect rewarding the company for taking the ethical problem off your hands by method of debt (they give her the money and have a debt that supporters of the work eventually pay off) which I would be deeply uncomfortable with, I'd probably boycott WB wholesale if they did that while right now I just avoid their HP films which support her
@AnyaAngie
@AnyaAngie Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this reality check... As a lover of reading and writing, it's crazy that I have not read the first 5 books. As someone who's partially blind, I have them on my Audible wish list as well as the other two which I did read, but would love the audiobooks as well since I only read them in print before... Interestingly enough the ones I found were not narrated by Fry, which was what I was expecting. But anyway, I can't see myself actually spending money on the audiobooks to obtain them... I can't even in good conscience use my Audible credit for them. Thankfully, the first one is available to stream, so I added it for free to my library. Meanwhile, I'm also a film score collector and lover. It is so difficult to revisit the scores for the movies without the knowledge of not only her opinions, but her ACTIONS regarding those opinions. The first three Harry Potter scores are some of the best in Williams' repertoire, and Harry himself never got a theme until Patrick Doyle gave him one after Williams withdrew from the franchise due to his EXTRAORDINARY workload of that year (Star Wars III, Memoirs Of A Geisha, War Of The Worlds, AND MUNICH, the last of which he wanted to devote as much energy as he possibly could to it...). I honestly can't find anything in 5 or 6 scores worth listening to. I think they should have gone with Alexandre Desplat for all the rest of those, since what eh did for the final two films is fantastic. But as I said, now, it is difficult to revisit any of these scores without the anguish of knowing these things about Rowling. It has been many years since I watched any of the films. I got The Tales of Beadle The Bard from Audible when they offered it for free one time, and while I enjoyed it, I couldn't help but notice the disgusting charity note at the end, about Lumos and tthe things it SUPPOSEDLY does to help kids... while I'm sure that that organization would NEVER help an openly trans kid. Not sure if that charity even still exists, but it was something I took note of. I even felt guilty for getting the book and listening to it. I did my best to set my thoughts aside while I checked out the stories, but I have not listened to it since.
@KingdomFantasy669
@KingdomFantasy669 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, even IF Warner Brothers were able to fully own the IP, then there's the conundrum of their CEO being a far right bigot. So even THEN its not a get out of jail free card so to speak. But regardless, per usual, a wonderful video, and I love how you say we're valid. Something about it always warms my heart. Thank you
@CouncilofGeeks
@CouncilofGeeks Жыл бұрын
You're not wrong, but it's pretty rare for the average consumer or fan to consider CEO's, they tend to focus on the people who directly touch the property. Not saying that's ok, just being realistic.
@rocket396
@rocket396 Жыл бұрын
I can't imagine JKR doing anything with Harry Potter other than rehashing what she's already done. Creatively, she doesn't seem to be all that creative any more. She sells off name brand not quality any more and her writing wasn't that clever to begin with. She wrote easy to read books in a fun setting and her books came out at a good time in the publishing business. JKR hasn't got another IP or sub-franchise off the ground. So all she's going do rehash and continually degrade the IP into exhaustion and eventually she'll end up ruining her own IP for all fans and general audiences. But she hasn't published anything worth reading in over a decade. And then she has snobbish on twitter and social media. She really has nothing and all that money, sitting along in her castle just angry at the world starving for attention and she's filling it with angry attention starved people.
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame Жыл бұрын
She caught lightning in a bottle with the original series and is not going to repeat that success IMO
@garonmario99
@garonmario99 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that George Lucas seems to be, all things considered, a much better person than J. K. Rowling... I am not saying the guy is perfect, but he never had an openly transphobic political agenda to push.
@matheussantana2390
@matheussantana2390 Жыл бұрын
People have to let go. Our good memories will always be there and that's OK, but there's no *need* to indulge ourselves in new Harry Potter content (especially when it's not absolutely new) There's always Pir*t*b*y.
@Brunoxsa
@Brunoxsa Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, Vera! There was RUMORS going around about NBCUniversal wanting to buy the ownership rights of Harry Potter from Joanne Rowling after she becoming a "marketing nightmare" because of her anti-trans views being (at least) mentioned in conversations about her. It is also very safe to assume that Harry Potter is a billions-worth franchise (thanks mainly to the official merchandise). The only way she even considers to sell it would be by receiving a very, very, very good money offer. Considering how most of millionaires and billionaires are very greedy, and they are never satisfied by only having fortunes impossible to expend during one or more lifetimes, they are always after even more money. However, in Joanne's case, it seems very unlikely. The fame and affirmation which the franchise provides to her ego and views, not just the transphobia, are very intoxicating for Joanne. She definitely does not have reasons to sell it. In the (unlike) case of some large corporation really buying off the Harry Potter franchise, the first thing they would probably do is to add some positive trans representation to it in order to separate themselves from Joanne's views and avoid more criticism. And while the franchise is still under her control, she will never allow it to happen.
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 Жыл бұрын
It’s either NBCU or Disney that would buy out the remaining tights out from WB too….and as a dying company , would probably sell it off at a very low price just to wash their hands clean of JKR.
@NicklasZandeVGCP2001
@NicklasZandeVGCP2001 Жыл бұрын
Doubt it. They have MSNBC which has contributors that identify as Democrats, and even have LGBT contributors as well. Plus, the founders of DreamWorks, which was bought by Universal several years ago, were funded by staunched Democrats. So I doubt they're a likely candidate.
@whiskers1776
@whiskers1776 Жыл бұрын
J k Rowling will go down in history as one of our great writers because of her I have a love of reading I will always be grateful to her
@mystic_mimi21
@mystic_mimi21 Жыл бұрын
I think this series will be a shot in the foot. Younger gen z dont really have the same nostalgia for HP as older gen z (myself) and millennials do, so that market wont be a profitable likewise with the attachment of JK the conscience ones will stay clear. Then the fans like myself who have the nostalgia but are allies with trans people will stay clear again due to jk. Lastly there is a group who are so nostalgic for the original series will maybe watch ep 1 The only market will be transphobes who will watch to support jk. But will likely not lile the more "woke" reboot elements which maybe inclueded like with gossip girl, starwars, marvel etc. Lastly there are fans who can 'look past' jk like with the video games. Or those who are oblivious to it all and are casual viewers. A small market. I really do not think it will be as popular as once thought. I could be wrong as i avoid HP circles online. Harry potter isnt are profitable or popular as it was 10 years ago. This is like with star wars and the prequels i feel
@TheDawnofVanlife
@TheDawnofVanlife Жыл бұрын
I think Nostalgia makes people forget this book series starts with 11 year olds in school. Most of the big moments were actually covered in the First film. The ‘extra’ stuff is extra time in class and some extra quidditch matches. And I wonder if these fans, most of whom are older, are really gonna find themselves as engaged as they think they are with a new set of 11/12 year old (likely inexperienced actors) sitting in class…even if it is magical class.
@adamdavis1648
@adamdavis1648 Жыл бұрын
Didn't the Star Wars prequels make lots of money despite people thinking they weren't good? And aren't there a lot more people now who will argue that they actually are good? That seems like the opposite of everything else you said in your comment.
@sakunaruful
@sakunaruful Жыл бұрын
@@adamdavis1648 The prequels are comparatively better than the Disney sequel trilogy. I’m glad people are being less harsh toward them nowadays.
@mariaaguadoball3407
@mariaaguadoball3407 Жыл бұрын
I think what they're hoping for with the series is to draw a new generation of fans in, like the Wednesday series has done with the Addams Family.
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 Жыл бұрын
20 years is about the sweet spot according to marketing egg heads for nostalgia bait. So something was bound to happen.
@VioletSadi
@VioletSadi Жыл бұрын
If you're struggling with names, the IPA reader might help? If you ask them to give you the sounds in international phonetics you can sound it out in your accent using the reader
@leonlacroix2638
@leonlacroix2638 Жыл бұрын
Good!! That's her life's work. I personally want her to bring it to the grave with her, or pass it down to her trusted family. We all see how selling star wars to Disney went. No franchise is safe from self destruction
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
She is doing a fine job with destroying her own lore. I always laughing my ass of when i watching videos about why the FB sequels sucks 🤣😂 The last 3 HP books were bad but they are How to kill a mocking bird compare to the FB sequels.
@leonlacroix2638
@leonlacroix2638 Жыл бұрын
@@poppie267 well fantastic beasts failed because of Warner bro. Not JK Rowling.
@poppie267
@poppie267 Жыл бұрын
​@@leonlacroix2638 huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh ????? I was talking about how stupid the plot of those movies were not about their faillure at the box office.
@leonlacroix2638
@leonlacroix2638 Жыл бұрын
@@poppie267 the plot of the movies was cut short due to Warner Bros. Remember there was suppose to be 5 movies not 3. We're still missing alot of the story. However with Warner fireing Johnny dep that caused alot of backlash and most people me included chose not to watch it, even tho I really wanted to.
@Carabas72
@Carabas72 Жыл бұрын
@@leonlacroix2638 You don't make movies 4 and 5 when 2 and 3 were already financial failures. Yes, the one that did have Depp, most overrated actor in Hollywood, was a boxoffice failure. Depp hasnt had a real hit in a good long while, probably not since Pirates 2.
@zennyblades
@zennyblades Жыл бұрын
The power of fanfiction and alternate universes compells you
@DoneRandomLee
@DoneRandomLee Жыл бұрын
It would be ideal if she sold it but I doubt she would be such a negative burden that corporations would pressure her to sell it anytime soon. What is more likely is Warner bros doesn't renew the rights and then some other company will get it and will try to remake the books and if they still fail it would probably happen at least another time before people just avoid the ip. But that would still take at least 2 decades. What I think is more likely is if warner bros seems to not want to renew the rights then she will probably write a sequel series. I imagine it wouldn't be too close to the end of the series like the cursed child was, but maybe have a 70 year old harry Potter and focuses on some new kids while Harry is a mentor figure that isn't officially apart of Hogwarts like hagrid and Dumbledore, more "oh you literally are the most famous student sure you can show up anytime". And even though fantastic beast didn't do well, having a continuation of harry in his retirement age helping newer generations would probably get another movie chance. Basically if you want her away from Harry Potter well just make sure that it isn't profitable and wait. It sucks but that is the only way to pry the franchise from her. Until then find another world to love or create your own. There is a ton of great stories with similar aspects to Harry Potter that I think will earn your love.
@Seussenshmirtz
@Seussenshmirtz Жыл бұрын
OMG, my comment got featured in this video! Hi Mom! All jokes aside, this video did bring a new light to things I wasn't as aware of or didn't bring much thought into. You tend to do that a lot. As a CIS person, I tend to see your videos as guidance on these issues.
@Auritilien
@Auritilien Жыл бұрын
I love your send off so much, thank you for making sure we -hopefully yourself included- feel loved, cared for, and valid.
@HeavyTF2real
@HeavyTF2real Жыл бұрын
Creators reactions to story criticisms: Rowling: “UM ACTUALLY ALL THE TIME TURNERS WERE DESTROYED AND UM UH IF THEH SAVED CEDRIC THEN VOLDEMORT WOULD HAVE WON!!1!1” Araki: “Lol I forgot about that. Anyway here’s the new enemy stand user.”
@orionfettes5501
@orionfettes5501 Жыл бұрын
Despite her many many flaws and mistakes I'm more than happy with that decision I would rather have Harry Potter in the hands of the original author than that evil mouse
@CouncilofGeeks
@CouncilofGeeks Жыл бұрын
Um... I'm not sure why you brought Disney into this. Because I'm framing this mostly through Warner Bros. which would be the most likely buyer since they've been doing all the movies. Even if she wanted to sell I don't think she'd ever consider Disney.
@ThePeacefulArtist
@ThePeacefulArtist Жыл бұрын
Dearest Vera, I fully understand and so fortunate to have come across your channel in 2018 actually! I burst my bubble on this after the essay was out. It surely did hurt and still own my original seven copies of the series and some offical merchandise. The end of your videos always bring a beautiful tear to my eyes. From one Vermonter to another! If you're ever over in Manchester I work at the Northshire Bookstore! So glad you make these videos they've really helped me. Stand on side of love not hate. Hope you're having a wonderful weekend too! 💕 - Quinn
@TheGoldenGriffiness
@TheGoldenGriffiness Жыл бұрын
I'm curious, what do you think of buying things up second hand or fandom creations? Reading/writing fanfic and the like? It still contributes to the cultural relevance, but at least isn't putting money in her pocket. I've been considering weather or not it's cool like, to plaster my Hufflepuff hat with trans pins and then keep wearing it, because that hat was a gift from someone I really care about (and we're not exactly well off enough that it feels easy to put things aside I used to use all the time and were perfectly functional.) Is that enough of a statement? Is there something that would be enough of a statement? My mother passed away and Harry Potter was like, one of the things I shared with her that was positive for a long time, and it hurts. Luckily I'd already started to realize the series had issues way before all this. (Fanfiction is great for shedding light on that.) I think if my relationship with my mother had been better towards the end, and I hadn't been schisming from the franchise, this all would have been painfull. Of course not nearly as painful as if I was a trans person person and the same happened. I'm sure there are stories like that. I can't imagine how that feels, and I'm so sorry. Anyway back to my thought. I want to find a way to take my hufflepuff hat and make it a proper F U to transphobia and a statement, without actually damaging the hat because it was a important gift. Is that possible, do people think?
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
I think a trans pin on the hat would at least tell any trans people you meet that you're not supporting Rowling in her views. It's not a perfect solution, but it's something. Whenever I see someone with a piece of HP merch, or even a tattoo, I can't help but think "oh they likely wouldn't accept me huh". It feels less safe. But if someone had a trans pin, I would probably be like "oh I get it". Ultimately, it's your hat, and it's your call if you wear it or not. Thanks for being supportive. I understand your dillema, I loved HP once and made friends through it...
@TheGoldenGriffiness
@TheGoldenGriffiness Жыл бұрын
@@cawareyoudoin7379 Yeah ugh. If it wasn't given to me for graduating highschool from the teacher that mattered most to me this wouldn't be hard, but it was and is the only thing I have from her. I HAVE accumulated like, five trans pins for the hat thus far. I just can't help but feel like it still shows me investing money in the series, though, and that drives me crazy. ...Maybe if I cover the whole thing in pride and Trans pins It'll feel adequate. Thanks for taking the time to reply to me!
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGoldenGriffiness Hahah, don't sweat too much about it. May we find better things to obsess over ;)
@TheGoldenGriffiness
@TheGoldenGriffiness Жыл бұрын
@@cawareyoudoin7379 True enough. I've been revisiting Animorphs myself.
@cawareyoudoin7379
@cawareyoudoin7379 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGoldenGriffiness I've been very much into various video games myself ;)
@madisonwaycaster9832
@madisonwaycaster9832 Жыл бұрын
Joanne will never give up her i.p. so long as trans people are still fighting for their rights simply to exist, because she views that as a threat. She will maintain an iron grip on her property purely out of spite and intolerance
@qqqqqqqqqqqq121212
@qqqqqqqqqqqq121212 Жыл бұрын
Harry Potter was never that high on the list of things I loved and enjoyed, so I can’t claim to know what it is to really love the franchise, but I can’t look at anything HP anymore without thinking about my anger and disgust towards the treatment of trans people and trans rights today - something JK Rowling is a massive contributor to as a whole.
@superkid801
@superkid801 Жыл бұрын
Good video. You made valid points on this subject. Personally I stopped with the property because I just can’t support it, I lost interested and it doesn’t make me happy. Thank you for talking about this
@riverkoi8707
@riverkoi8707 Жыл бұрын
Unrelated to topic at hand but I love that summer dress! (sorry if it's tonally jarring)
@r.j.sullivan2104
@r.j.sullivan2104 Жыл бұрын
What WB needs to do is make a public apology and code of ethics with fines attached to each violation a prerequisite to going into production. (They already have similar clauses for actors) If I ran WB this would be a minimal requirement before producing anything more.
@PanelHopper
@PanelHopper Жыл бұрын
I think if the TV goes forward it will be a good opportunity for whoever the production team are to also diversify the traditionally lily white cast, but, on top of everything else JK has said and done, it will be deeply troubling to watch her try and take credit for that, like she did with the cursed child.
@linus1703
@linus1703 Жыл бұрын
Can't see her ever selling the right, I would be willing to bet that her will has specifics not only who gets control of the rights but also rules around how they can be made (it's quite common for there to be detailed rules in authors wills, since they're not getting paid there's no real motive for them other then how they want their work remembered). If she does pass then the whole supporting her become different but I don't see that being anytime soon.
@linus1703
@linus1703 Жыл бұрын
And even if she did sell the rights she would still be trending, it's like how Nintendo had nothing to do with Pokemon Go but their stocks went up from it.
@chazharris
@chazharris Жыл бұрын
There is usually a brand disrepute clause that most Hollywood contracts have (which she would be undoubtedly in breach of), but it seems Warner Bros Discovery have no bottom and are just happy to keep actively hiring/paying her and want to avoid a legal battle over that. I guess enough people are still buying licensed merch that Warner Bros Discovery aren't annoyed enough about the losses from people who aren't buying licensed products to go after her for that (which is why nobody should spend money on them).
@franciscotolley
@franciscotolley Жыл бұрын
I thought it would be better if she sold but...in the end i knew it wasnt gonna happen. Execllent video, as always!
@otakubullfrog1665
@otakubullfrog1665 Жыл бұрын
The people who want a sale might want to be careful what they wish for as the transfer of a franchise from its creator to a corporation doesn't always make for a better product. There's a good chance it would result in Harry Potter In Space as the suits would be unable to resist churning out every crazy permutation imaginable without regard to lore or long-term viability just to get revenues up for this quarter. As for representation that Rowling would likely never have included, there's a good chance it would be shoehorned in poorly as a cheap publicity stunt and a shield against criticism of the newer work.
@tidbit2190
@tidbit2190 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my same thoughts. More than anything, she wouldn't give up the clout, aka the power she has over others with her influence, when it seems like at least 50% of her daily priorities are trying to turn the population against trans people. It's her biggest weapon and she's not turning it over.
@Leena79
@Leena79 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, JK doesn't seem like the tupe who'd just give away her ticket to world domination. She seems to love the attention, and as long as she is perceived as the "author of the beloved children's book series", she has attention. What I've been thinking is, how many people could be recruited to cancel their Max or whatever it's called subscritions, and to demand to cancel the remake? I don't see any other way of getting rid of JK but to put financial pressure on WB, Max and whoever distributes the series. Someone should put up a petition, or better yet, a pledge you could sign to show you'd cancel your subscription, and it should be a world-wide thing. If the numbers are significant enough, maybe it would have an effect. But it should be organized, because, let's be honest, there are quite a few good shows on Max, and unless the boycott is far reaching, I'm not gonna scrap Max just in case. I want to see the second season of the Last of Us.
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame Жыл бұрын
Just don't watch it. If no one watches it, they'll cancel just like they did with the Fantastic Beasts series.
@madelinewelsh
@madelinewelsh Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!!
@shaunhouse8469
@shaunhouse8469 Жыл бұрын
the last I heard was that Warner Bros are looking at getting 10 season out of the 7 books. Which I guess would mean a season each for books 1, 2, 3 & 6 and two season for 4, 5, & 7. Harry Potter universe is pretty much all Rowling has, I think the only thing selling her Galbraith novels and whatever are because they're written by the person that wrote Harry Potter. Aren't Rowling's questionable decisions with regard to actually in the HP Universe rather than transphobia that has got clout because she's the creator of the HP universe the extreme levels of queerbaiting she fostered there?
@Tr3xxx123
@Tr3xxx123 Жыл бұрын
Leaving a comment for the algorithm. 👍
@Bingbongles9million
@Bingbongles9million Жыл бұрын
Not surprising considering everything else she’s tried her hand at has turned to shit. She peaked with HP and now she knows it
@ekeclout3941
@ekeclout3941 Жыл бұрын
I'll never give any money to this series however I won't go out of my way to avoid the series entirely. I like to watch stuff in order to completely shut down the "you never watched it" argument. Plus my own SO is trans and she's still engaging in HP media. All we can do is simply make the love outshine the hate.
@furthings
@furthings Жыл бұрын
^ I think this is the biggest takeaway here. "Make the love outshine the hate"
@ekeclout3941
@ekeclout3941 7 ай бұрын
@@CJCroen1393 No, I really don't, you seem to have a difficult time with reading comprehension.
@EmlynBoyle
@EmlynBoyle Жыл бұрын
You cut HP away from JKR, and she's nothing (apart from being insanely rich). I don't think anyone's going to remember her for The Causal Vacancy, or those terrible crime novels (which would have disappeared entirely were not her name attached to them). I honestly think she's behind this HP reboot in order to spite the actors who stood up to her transphobia, but at the same time, she won't sell the rights entirely--in order to spite trans HP fans that she's already spat on (pretty much). Her vindictiveness knows no bounds (especially, when again, she's insanely rich).
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