Court Result - Cabbie Guilty - Lost His Green Badge? LG22YFN

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The cabbie himself struck me as a kind and decent man, calm and well spoken. We chatted amicably after court and he understood why I do this, and gave me a hug as I wished him the best. He knows it isn't personal, and that I'm trying to improve road safety.
Also I know the end bit is out of order - that's because I filmed it with the idea of having that before BBB's segment, but BBB's segment is so good that it deserves to be near the beginning. Soz, and I'm too lazy to refilm the end bit.
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[@Manu-Official]

Nice touch having Blackbelt barrister on the channel to go through the legal lingo.

[@fritzdrybeam]

He's a bigot.

[@WraithRaider]

So, the blackbelt barrister won't say this, but as an ex lawyer and current magistrate, I will. Some lawyers just want to have the perception of doing a good job and being able to charge their client a large fee by presenting these sorts of ludicrous arguments, that a first year law student would dismiss. Strict Liability is something you learn about very early in your studies and the wording of the legislation is not remotely ambiguous based on the clear evidence we saw. But the lawyer can say to their client that the magistrates got it wrong and that his arguments were correct and is an unjust result etc, and the client goes away with a large bill and thinking he got his money's worth. He'd have been better off with an unscrupulous solicitor who would have advised him to plead guilty, saving a the legal fees and prosecution costs.

[@Greek316]

As someone who has never studied law, I think this is pretty much common knowledge. They are happy to lose a case they know they will lose from the start as long as they get paid.

[@thebrowns5337]

Maybe the lawyer got his training the same place the taxi driver did his?

[@anthonymcdaid1325]

Let's say a bloke cycles up to my window in London and I'm a cabbie, I've got money bag etc on me, so I feel like it's a robbery (very common scenario in London for cabbies), I instinctively drive forward, this is a defence if I believed it's an emergency (perceived, doesn't need to be actual, just genuinely perceived) then driving forward is covered as a defence to holding phone (genuine emergency to which you couldn't have stopped safely first) then the Mens Rea of the fixed liability offence isn't relevent any more, you have an absolute and listed defence. I think the point is that if he had the right to take payment whilst stationary (poorly worded law so it's not clear) and if he drove forward whilst in fear, so it wasn't his initial intention (this is where the Mens Rea defence overlaps) then he may have a case for appeal. By the way cabs can stop in a far greater number of places than cars in order to terminate a fare, without pulling into the cycle lane, this would be a legitimate place to terminate a fare, cabbies must stop to terminate a fare when told to by passenger or you get into other issues of professional misconduct and false imprisonment.

[@JohnSmithShields]

Professional driver, no sympathy.

[@TheHungryTrollRawr]

THIS^ it really is that simple! You know the risks, not only to public safety, but to your own licence/Green badge! If you honestly cared enough, you wouldn't risk it! Man i walk my dog each day, I love my dog like a son, each car that passes the pavement I lock his leash just incase he suddenly bolts out into the road! I'm very switched on and fully alert to the risks/dangers that might happen at any given moment, the thought of being in control of a car whilst browsing my phone is absolutely ALIEN to me, It could never happen, i'm a responsible adult, not a child, I care about others and I could never forgive myself if I caused an accident, or worse even, caused a death! Leave your fucking phones alone ppl, wake up and take responsibility!

[@grahvis]

Given the way drivers looking at their phones don't notice you, even when wearing a bright jacket, suggests he wasn't startled.

[@Milkman-jg4jf]

This is a very simple case to prosecute. The taxi driver has ver clearly displayed that he has his mobile phone in his hand whilst in charge of a vehicle. To make the situation even worse he has a passenger on board. With zero regard for anyone's safety. He therefore should lose his green badge as well as his driving licence. There is no defence for the driver in this case.

[@stephengraham1153]

The solution to this is so, so simple. Don't for any reason touch any mobile device while in charge of a vehicle. It isn't rocket science. Perhaps the message will finally circulate the taxi driving community and they will stop breaking the law.

[@selcaf]

Hopefully he did loose his taxi badge and licence ... 🚕

[@kennethg9277]

​@@Kurwajegomacfolks like you are in no position to determine whether it takes a rocket scientist to understand a given proposition or not... this is because even an orangutan seems like a rocket scientist to you.

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

​@@kennethg9277Someone got offended...

[@out_spocken]

@@kennethg9277 you are irrelevant. go away now

[@johnhiggins779]

Mikey as always you present yourself in a very professional manner, thanks for trying to keep our roads safe.

[@ggggddddddsssss]

definitely

[@PedroConejo1939]

Fancy seeing BBB here! Great commentary and co-operation, and a good result. As you pointed out, there is a long, empty lane of parking spaces to the left of the taxi, and parking wasn't suspended that day. With that stop-start traffic, how many spaces would a driver 'lose' by pulling over and dealing with whatever needs to be dealt with? I do think it's time more people refuse to travel with those who use their phones when driving. Who travels with a drink-driver nowadays? We need to give phone-driving the same stigma.

[@petegreenfield8366]

Why do professional drivers take the risk of losing their jobs like this? They must know what the consequences will be if they’re caught.

[@thetraveller869]

They don’t think they’ll be caught…

[@out_spocken]

@@thetraveller869 like most people that do crimes yup

[@angels77100]

Why? Because they're doing this 24/7 and not getting caught. You can bet this Taxi driver didn't put his phone down after this incident. It's criminal how they break our laws in this country.

[@CED99]

Question - as the law is written, it states "to make a contactless payment." If the cabbie is receiving a contactless payment, is that a different thing?

[@CED99]

Thanks BBB for answering

[@out_spocken]

Im actually impressed it took Mike walking past that many car to see someone using their phone. Maybe people are waking up? Maybe Mike is having an effect?

[@debramitchell53]

I hope the cab driver didn’t pay the solicitor much money, because it doesn’t appear the solicitor had done any real preparation (didn’t even know his client’s name). Although even a good lawyer would have struggled to have got the cab driver off with the evidence available. Interesting to hear Black belt barrister’s take on it.

[@GilesWendes]

probably promised to get him off in the hope that Mikey wouldn't attend. Caught two more this morning myself.

[@NickAskew]

It's good that he is poorly policing this. Over here in the Netherlands we only made mobile phone use while cycling illegal a few years back and I regularly see other cyclists on their phone. The point of the law is that road users should have their eyes on the road and so focused to avoid a collision. But something that is really clear here is that both the taxi driver AND the cyclist are distracted from their respective responsibilities. The driver is focussed on the phone and the cyclist is focused on what each driver he passes is doing. It may not be illegal to use a helmet mounted camera, but it is still clear that the cyclist is distracted. Keep up the good work, but just like any other road user, concentrate on the road conditions.

[@retroonhisbikes]

Why would you use a device that could lead to a conviction in a busy london street with people watching. Shows a degree of arrogance

[@GilesWendes]

Saw about twenty this morning, don't have time to report them all but at least two will be receiving letters soon haha

[@SteveLoughran]

Boredom

[@out_spocken]

You didn't write that correctly. Why would you, as a professional driver, use a device...

[@johnmorsley]

I'm sure you don't Mikey, but don't listen to the haters. I love what you do, especially as they make the roads safer for me and my friends and family. So please, keep up the good work!

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

Now we all want to know the name of the firm who dragged this case out when they did not have a leg to stand on . nice one Mikey .

[@pipk7747]

Really enjoyed hearing the in's & out's of this. BBB was great. THANKS Mikey, your a great guy. We all want safe roads.

[@CyclingMikey]

Much appreciated!

[@Britishlady12]

I find it a bit uncomfortable looking and listening to you regarding a man who lost his way to earn .. that’s what I would say to Mikey .. I think it’s a man who gets pleasure from what he does !!.. he says it’s because of what happened to him and he’s doing this to make things safer .. if that’s true then if he felt that way then send the money you make from KZbin to a charity that helps victims out the money you earn on KZbin . That’s what annoys me about cycling mikey ..

[@tanderson278]

How does Regulation 109 (MV Const & Use Regs 1986) impact on the use of Hands Free devices and Infotainment screens?

[@KentRoads]

17:56 those bikes shouyldnt be there either

[@judithmatthews8460]

Maybe if taxi passengers did get out and refuse to pay taxi drivers would be less likely to do it. Just imagine if the driver hit a pedestrian how guilty you’d feel for not taking a stand.

[@GilesWendes]

Most people in a cab in London are tourists or entitled rich people, neither know the law.

[@kennethg9277]

​@@GilesWendesthey neither know the law, nor do they care, nor does the law apply equally to them as it does to others.

[@namastezen3300]

Very thorough. Hearing all the factors of the case was helpful in understanding the outcome. Thank you for taking the time to explore the issues.

[@petermastenbroek7719]

It is clear that this Cabby, and his lawyer too are bad LIARS, if he would have been using his phone for a "legal" action, why would he have dropped the phone when Mikey talked to him ? You have to be really stupid if your livelyhood depends on your license to do things like this, so it's well deserved IMHO.

[@timbailey4348]

telling lies in court is perjory send them both to jail

[@maxmac7845]

Would there be a record of the exact time of the alleged payment being taken?

[@CyclingMikey]

If there was such a payment, then yes, there would be, but it wasn't offered in evidence so I suspect it never happened. Also, as BBB says - the exemption is for making a payment, not taking one.

[@craftsmanwoodturner]

Didn't he say in evidence that the fare went to Bayswater? In which case, why was the passenger paying half-way through the journey? I don't believe in this payment defence at all.

[@nonesuchtofu]

hello mikey, thank you for all your hard efforts! :) And thank you for dressing up so nicely and representing the cyclist community in style! :)

[@theuninivitedguest]

Good result Mikey and the driver deserves to lose his licence with TFL. Now maybe taxi drivers may realise that you can't use your mobile phone when you are working you shouldn't use your mobile phone. I also think now that mobile phone use should be that if you get caught using your phone for any reason except for an emergency, then it is an instant ban and loss of driving licence for at least 6 months. That driver could have easily pulled over and took the fare and the same goes for anyone needs to take a phone call if you don't have handfree system in your then you pull over, turn off the engine and pull the keys from the ignition before taken the phone call.

[@teamofsteve]

Can anyone explain why Mikey has to attend court? The evidence is on film, what does a personal appearance add? I’m assuming he is participating and not in the public gallery. Sorry if this has been asked before

[@fmkgain]

#LG22YFN video - excellent commentary from the BlackBeltBarister. It is amazing how clear, detailed and precise the law is regarding the use of mobile phones. That was a superb addition to your video Mikey. I’m surprised how many people choose to ignore the law and get angry when they are caught. Great job!

[@andreashaynes3346]

That was a very informative video and the collaboration with the Blackbelt Barrister was really useful, clearly explaining that the taxi driver had no case to answer for. You have no worries at all about the work you do Mikey as the BBB is very clear in his legal observations. Unfortunately for the taxi driver, he loses his Green Badge, but he chose to use his mobile phone whilst in charge of his vehicle and obviously not in control. If I’d been his passenger I’d have insisted he let me out of the cab, as clearly unsafe. Many thanks to both you and the BBB, Mikey 👍👍👍

[@out_spocken]

CyclingMike is a bloody national treasure. Literally working on behalf of the every day person to keep them safe...and has probably saved countless people from many an injury and death no doubt.

[@BK10011]

Honest questions… my understanding is using a ‘hands free’ is legal? Surely whether you’re receiving or making a call you take a hand off the wheel and will look at your phone if you don’t have/use voice activation. Your eyes are surely off the road and legally you are not in complete control of your vehicle. If it’s legal, how is this different? If you take a drink or perhaps are eating, maybe a sandwich, is this also illegal?

[@thebrowns5337]

It should be a clear cut 'no phone use' but people will whinge about having to change destination on their navigation app etc. I assume that's the reason for allowing use while the phone is held securley in a cradle. Of course, pressing other buttons on the dash is a distraction. Twice someone has driven into the back of my car as they were changing radio stations/music track on their car stereo. I suppose a balance must be struck.

[@StevieOnHisBike]

Mikey, forget the idiots making our roads dangerous, I'm appalled at the filthy state of your rear wheel (17:20 onwards). Great to hear from the BBB - fascinating. Keep up the good work!

[@lindaj5492]

6:45 ‘making a contactless payment’ is not the same as ‘receiving a contactless payment’. And his phone or bank / card records would show date & time of the transaction.

[@blende5.693]

In germany are the rules totally clear. If your engine is on, you are not allowed to take the mobile phone in your hand. Just put the phone in your hands, meaning you are using it. The fine is 100€ plus 30€ for administration. 1 point for you driving license, 8 points and you are loosing your license. I can’t understand, why professional drivers take that risk to lose their license.

[@SixBadges]

22:22 Thank God you are a "professional complaining witness and an overly-officious citizen". You make the world safer because of what you do. You are an example to us all, and I pray that you inspire others. It is impossible to calculate how many lives you have saved by raising awareness of the dangers of distracted-driving. Keep up the good work.

[@bikeelectric4821]

9:20 the cab driver is guilty of theft, hopefully that comes with jail time

[@oldTimer-x3r]

In my mind he had lots of silly excuses. Well done Mikey in filming this one.

[@grahvis]

I'm reminded of the excuses offered when the breathalyser first came into use over 50 years ago.

[@Mike_TGL]

This is the universe crossover we wanted! Just need an Ashley Neal cameo now.

[@chrisbaines306]

Im a delivery driver , planners always phoning me , i have a lot of missed calls daily, they always say amswer youre phone, erm no im driving , i dont even allow hands free, its not worth it! No one is more important that they can wait a few minutes till ive pulled up.its not rocket science dont use youre phone while driving!! Simple

[@markhorton8578]

Also it's normal to pay at the end of your journey, or before, not during. This is not the end of the journey.

[@robertleem5643]

I have no sympathy, the taxi driver knew that if he was caught it would probably be a ban, others now need to think about their actions. You don't need to hold your phone for any reason. If you have to, pull over safely (I put the word safely as it's also surprising how many just pull over without regard for others around them) check their phone then put it away. Excellent job Mikey

[@stevendavies3563]

Can’t do the time don’t do the crime 👍

[@lesjones471]

A tell tail that the taxi drive is not paying attension is that large gap infront of the offenders taxi,normal driving you keep the distance alot closer to the vehicle in front.

[@huwjones3347]

I would think the 'contactless payment' exemption is in place for things like road toll booths?

[@CED99]

Toll booths, drive throughs

[@PBMS123]

Interesting, Australia just uses the catch-all "toucch" you can't be touching your phone at all while driving. saves you needing all these use case examples.

[@thomascarroll9556]

Passengers should film any cab driver who is using a handheld device whilst driving, then get out (or at the end of their journey get out) and refuse to pay (maybe donate the fare to a charity), give the driver their details, when the word got round cabbies would stop this dangerous habit. “Over officious citizen” really, you are reporting a very dangerous action that could lead to injury or death to others, that’s not officious in any way.

[@omegaamigo]

The world needs *more* Overly-Officious Citizens 🙂

[@nickbea3443]

If a contactless payment was being taken then there would be date/time stamp. The drivers lawyer could have prodcued that and compared that with Mickeys clip date stamp/time if nothing more than to weaken the case. All black cab taxi journeys I can recall in last few years, the driver collects money at destination. If this is such an issue, then put payment consoles in back of cab to avoid any confusion?

[@fredwest2234]

"If this is such an issue, then put payment consoles in back of cab to avoid any confusion?" It is a requirement of tfl that taxis have this facility. If he was taking a payment, then he would have stopped the meter; not very likely!

[@normanboyes4983]

Nice irrelevance.

[@jamesmackinnon7727]

Nice work, Mikey. The concept per se that one lost his livelihood can merit sympathy based on isolated situation, but it’s indubitable that both the cabbie’s hands are on the phone - with a passenger no less! That’s bad. Very bad. I wonder what became of the hackney driver who tried to take away your camera, the doltish one who was ‘looking at’ a game on his phone in Hyde Park? That video takes the cake! I’m sorry about what happened to a loved one of yours because of an irresponsible driver 😔

[@johnfh]

This was extremely interesting. I watched the full 25 minutes, and appreciated the Blackbelt Barrister's communication skills - he's a professional! Well done Mikey, as you said you may need to keep the camera filming a bit longer,

[@robertpatrick3350]

Great to see BBB’s explanation as why the Orville Richard Burrell v Nervous Cochlear (2000) defender was ineffective.

[@clivesmith2886]

Perhaps people who use their phones while driving will take note, it is dangerous and illegal To use your iPhone while driving, if a car driver killed their son or daughter while on the mobile phone. They would think differently.retired lifeboatman.

[@Disorder1889]

Even at 0 to 1mph ?

[@MrPantss]

Well done Mikey, totally support what you do. One thing you have gained from this experience is some of the ridiculous defences people/lawyers come up with which can help you with your approach in gathering evidence, such as the “you spoke to him which made him drive off”, 😂 great work Mikey

[@PaulM_aka_4c21]

Pretty girl looked a bit lost following her phone map lol. Nice cross channel collaboration with Black Belt Barrister, keep up the good work Mikey !

[@paulcollyer801]

7:37 Were that a contactless payment terminal & not a mobile phone, that defence MIGHT have worked. However, as it was a phone, the only way that MIGHT have worked would have been a timed transfer from the customer’s account to the cabby’s account, and the customer exiting a little later; but ideally that should have been done legally stopped at the side of the road, not in the traffic queue. Edit; after watching the full video & Mikey’s like:- Seem BBB covered my thoughts, maybe I should retrain as a barrister as opposed to being a trucker… hehehe (not hapnin, aint sharp enough). It’ll be interesting to see how TFL viewed this as the driver had 2 x 3point offences already, albeit 1 expired. I would suspect that the solicitor representing the driver was either a) close friend or family, b) a last minute change or representation on the day of the case, or c) an absolute chancer. The representations made by them were, imho, potentially attempts to mislead the court if they had seen the evidence. All that said, the likelihood is that TFL have revoked the Hackney Carriage Licence and the driver is no longer able to ply for hire. Therefore the case needed defending robustly.

[@CyclingMikey]

Could be a bluetooth terminal that's operated by the phone - that's what he showed in court.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@CyclingMikey, however, that is also a device capable of transmitting &/or receiving data… so the driving aspect still prevents the defense

[@CyclingMikey]

Indeed, but he wouldn't be holding that terminal as it's in the back of the cab at the partition for the customer to present his card to. @@paulcollyer801

[@paulcollyer801]

@@CyclingMikey, indeed, but therein is the issue, hand held mobile device connecting & transmitting data to another device…. An admission of guilt under the Old regs no less. Law is such a lovely thing, as even when apparently clearly written, it isn’t lol

[@SteveLoughran]

One of those little square Bluetooth dongles works for payment. But: square will have logged the transaction, so the “it was a payment” defence should have been backed up with a printout of their transaction logs.

[@BedsitBob]

Doesn't the term "interactive communication" exclude Satnavs, since a Satnav is not a communication device, ie. you can't send and receive communication with anyone, or indeed anything? Not that I'm defending messing with a Satnav, whilst driving, but rather looking at it from a legal point of view.

[@CyclingMikey]

All satnavs receive data, else they would not be able to calculate your position.

[@BedsitBob]

@@CyclingMikey But they don't interact with each other. *interaction* *reciprocal action or influence* The satellites don't know the Satnav exists.

[@CyclingMikey]

@@BedsitBob All modern satnavs are capable of bluetooth and/or wireless anyway, so it renders the point moot.

[@BedsitBob]

@@CyclingMikey Mine isn't.

[@archstanton5603]

Interesting case and excellent collaboration there.👍 Presumably you'll be slightly adjusting how you film drivers next time as it appears the defence barrister unwittingly provided a useful learning point! 😉

[@shm5547]

Intersting distinction between making and taking a payment, but maybe for good reason. Taking a payment will require far more interaction with a phone than making a payment.

[@thebrowns5337]

It's an exemption geared up so that drive through restraunts can still operate. Nicely narrowed down by clearly omitting accepting payments - no wriggle room there. I still wonder how many people will choose to ignore the word 'contactless' though and think online shopping is fine as long as you pay at the end of the session. Of course, there are other measures - vehcile must be stationary etc. but some people always look for the excuses and ways around laws, rather than just not touching their phone while in control of a vehicle (which is the simplest thing ever).

[@bikeelectric4821]

3:00 just one touch of a smartphone makes you a distracted driver for up to 15 minutes later, studies show

[@bikeelectric4821]

if you accidentally touch your phone, you should pull over for 15 minutes, then continue

[@jerrysmith2360]

Only 18 months experience? How much driving experience did he have 24:32 so he has experience and that involves breaking the law. This guy shouldn’t ever be a taxi driver.

[@aljaliah6868]

Nice collaboration by two genuine KZbin "influencers" with genuine content , thank you both !

[@ALoneWoIf]

Zero sympathy here. He's a taxi driver and had a passenger in his cab with him, and he _still_ decided to "phone-drive". He basically asked to lose his green card.

[@RavyDavy]

Great insight to the actual Law side of things from the BlackBelt Barrister. Sometimes you think things are just black&white/cut&dry - when they just aren't.

[@KentRoads]

no, HOLDING your phone is against the regulation. you can use your phone whilst driving in a mount

[@CyclingMikey]

I wouldn't recommend that either, as that is prosecutable too.

[@Phil-Sands]

Nice to see BBB co-operating with you Mikey, well done.

[@travelphotos7662]

Impressive run down by BBB - lots of real information, as opposed to other video commentators who say a lot but don't say anything. I was weighed down by BBB's information trying to take it in and put it into context. This was fun (anything educational where I learn something is fun).

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

BBB is very thorough. But that's his job!

[@VadoVoodoo]

Wow this guy can talk the far end of a fart.

[@acesas69]

It is wrong to be on your phone whilst driving, and too many accidents have happened due to it. But to walk up peer in people’s car? That passenger could be disabled and not have an alternative? It’s not for you to question them at the end of the day. If this was travelling at speed I’d get it, but inching along in traffic? I just think this is more about your ego and a bit of a power trip than it is about road safety

[@kennethg9277]

The reason you think this way, is because you yourself are disabled. Mentally.

[@BedsitBob]

Don't taxi drivers take a payment at the end of the journey, when the passenger is about to get out, or in some case, before the journey begins? Yet, in this case, after the alleged payment was taken, the passenger remained in the vehicle, and continued the journey. I've never seen a taxi driver take a payment half way through the journey.

[@martinjames9250]

What is the matter with these people? You're not allowed to use a mobile phone whilst driving. simple and straight forward. Risking your livelihood? Madness, surely.

[@paulorchard8609]

So why are you allowed to use a infotainment system in a car and and use indicators and use the wiper stalk as this is taking hands off the steering wheel ??

[@ForkCandle123]

I'm not a driver, but what gets me is that so few drivers actually get fined for mobile phone use. This guy is hardly moving, but many other drivers are seen using a mobile phone while moving significantly faster in traffic and even while driving on motorways but they don't get pulled up for it.

[@martinlea8744]

Thank you for all your work to help improve road safety.

[@TheHungryTrollRawr]

Theres clearly a problem in this country (and others no doubt) where people are just victims in their own minds, when they are challenged for being selfish, or irresponsible! It really has to change, we need to re-adjust our attitudes and change this growing bad trend! Accidents are part of life, but not paying attention whilst driving a car isn't an accident, what it really is, is absolute madness! There is no forgiving a driver who causes a death or disability by such driving! 6 points isn't a harsh punishment, 12 points even I don't think is enough, a permanent ban should be the result of people playing on their phones whilst driving! Imagine coming home from work as a cabbie and telling your wife, I lost my Green badge license to do my job today, because I wanted to browse Tiktok? It's actually embarrassing!

[@PovilasPanavas]

if your phone is in the holder (for example Quadlock mount) in your car, motorcycle or bicycle. It's on Google maps (or any alternative app), and you sit in traffic, and click to zoom out/zoom in (because automatic zoom made you to not see the next turn), is this also an offense?

[@CyclingMikey]

I reckon that's OK - phone is mounted, and you have limited interaction with it.

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

No, because it's not hand-held, which is one of the strict criteria for the offence. You can do as you please if the phone is mounted and be clear of a mobile phone offence. You may be guilty of other offences such as careless driving or not in proper control, but those are more subjective to prosecute.

[@tanderson278]

I am looking forward to @BlackBeltBarrister and @ashley_neal providing some education on Regulation 109 and the impact on Hands free devices.@@dedistaulapanodki6293

[@shinertom142]

Is this the case for cyclists too? I mean can they cycle and use their phone?

[@out_spocken]

You can't park on double lines anyway right? So letting a passenger out there/here would be illegal too?

[@bikeelectric4821]

2:17 drivers need to put their smartphones in the trunk, as more than 3700 people die EVERY DAY from drivers

[@MyTing775]

3700 every year.

[@bikeelectric4821]

@@MyTing775 day!!! ~1.35 million people die from drivers every year, that's 3698/day and climbing

[@MyTing775]

@@bikeelectric4821 worldwide ?

[@allanmanley6340]

I think the real fine will arrive in his postbox containing the invoice from the lawyer........ Great job Mikey!

[@andrew98115wl]

Put your damn phones down, put on some music and chill!

[@scareneb]

I don't understand the defence at all. Is it not illegal to fabricate a story in court? I'm sick to death of Mikey's victims totally lying in front of a judge to attempt to get off (it was an emergency, I was taking contactless payment). Could the passenger have been called up as a witness in this case? Are there no consequences of lying?

[@kennethg9277]

No consequences for lying, even in public office, or if one is a copper.

[@G-Man78]

Why aren't there any comments disagreeing with the conviction or the filming by the cyclist ? Could it be they have all been deleted or hidden by the KZbin video poster?🤔🤔🤔

[@garyboyle695]

There are, other idiots like you that don't think laws apply to them.

[@Truth-warrior-j3e]

Or could it be that they don’t want to display their own stupidity by contradicting the blatantly obvious and logical outcome

[@G-Man78]

@@Truth-warrior-j3e no, you reaching for low hanging fruit. Good try tho

[@andycoooke]

Fascinating video. Did you intend that your friend's segment would be after your commentary? ("Let's now hear from..."). The edit might be slightly wrong (not that it matters too much).

[@CyclingMikey]

Yes, I planned to do it that way, but then BBB's segment was so good it had to go first, and I was too lazy to refilm my bit. Sorry!

[@philipreid2542]

Unless they had a reasonable excuse (difficulty walking etc.), taking a taxi from exhibition road to bayswater is pure laziness

[@samparkes2011]

“He’ll pay his fine back £100 a month, which I’m fine with” Doesn’t matter whether you’re fine with it - you get no say in the judgment and it’s not made for you or subject to your approval. Get off your high horse ffs

[@stevendavies3563]

Nice one mikey , simply connect to hands free , switch on silent so no auditable prompt of a text or WhatsApp or email Just leave the phone alone The latest trick I’m seeing is drivers watching tv films KZbin on there phones jammed in a crevice on the dash or in the steering wheel and even on the radio unit it’s self. So not holding the phone but watching it. Fucksake

[@Mrhullsie2]

There have been times I have wondered are you being a little harsh on people using their phones whilst stopped. However it was clear from this footage that the driver was not in proper control of his vehicle, to argue that the reason he edged forward when surprised by Mikey just demonstrates that.

[@KentRoads]

the collab we didn't know we needed :D

[@KentRoads]

but we don't deserve!

[@ITFNBiteBayKon]

The collab we didn't need or want*

[@andrew-o5i]

guilty as charged ...............

[@SixBadges]

The Bench should have proposed to TFL that the law be more clearly explained to badge holders. The law says that you cannot take a payment unless you are stationary. I doubt that many badge holders are aware of this. It is therefore incumbent on the badge-issuer to explain the law to the badge-holders. The roads would be much safer if all taxi drivers were told that this practice is dangerous and illegal.

[@KPP365]

Great idea. Have the BB barrister on. I hope he can explain more of these if necessary.

[@dlthompson945]

A Black-belt/Mikey mash-up..very informative.

[@CyclingMikey]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@powernab8457]

CyclingMikey: Your best work yet 😂😂 and more to come I hope! I for one am glad that you got the result as I was hit by a Hit & Run Taxi driver who then ran the RED light too! You keep on going 👍😉

[@HoxtonHotspur]

You was hit by a black taxi driver or a mini cab driver?

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Thank you CM.

[@girbeck3637]

You need to get yourself upto the rural top half of North Yorkshire as we have completely different mobile phones laws here. Car drivers are allowed to use hand held phones whenever they like, infact the more advanced your car is with tech the more you can physically hold in your hand or place on your lap.( no age limit to this ) Presumably the difficulty in connectivity with modern vehicles makes this compulsory. Van drivers are also allowed to use there's also at will but I believe you must also try to use your mounted dash device at the same time preferably once your above 30mph. Lorries, Ridged or Articulated units we seem to be running a every 7th or 8th vehicle can use a hand held device but this can also be placed between ear and shoulder if there are any roundabouts or tricky junctions to manoeuvre around. The large farm tractor and trailer use is very easy to understand its every other one. There you go, dead simple up here Happy Driving Ps Mickey keep up the good work

[@redsrollingnow1]

Good work Mikey! I really cannot believe this case took 3 HOURS to conclude for crying out loud! It should have been over and done in 10 minutes maximum - what a soft nation we are! 😱

[@keithbrowes1974]

Well done Mikey and a good end result

[@keziasarah]

Anyone else prepared to admit they had to look up the meaning of "obstreperous" 🤣🤣🤣 Let me save you the time.... Obstreperous comes from ob- plus strepere, a verb meaning "to make a noise," so someone who is obstreperous can be thought of as literally making noise to rebel against something, much like a protesting crowd or an unruly child. The word has been used in English since around the beginning of the 17th century.

[@daveydillon]

Great to see you hook up with Black Belt Barrister and really appreciate how you keep us up to date on the cases. Be safe and be lucky 😉

[@davidseaford797]

People might think his a nasty weasle but you must remember Mickeys Dad was killed by a car in the most gruesome and bloody way . 😢

[@clarkeysam]

I mean this is the nicest way, I assumed that you were in your early 30s, so I was shocked to see you talking to camera.

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

The driver was startled? Just how stupid do these Lawyers think that Magistrates are? What a pathetic line of defence. Maybe in absolute -and demonstrable- extremis i.e. you are being pursued by persons intent on causing you serious harm, some sort of mitigation might be accepted. Might.

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

The lawyers aren't stupid. They're paid by the hour, so it's in their interests to run any kind of defence in order to string it out.

[@20BumbleBee23]

wow! taking payments on your phone is possible. My husband had a business and the card machine broke but the app they used allowed them to take payment on the phone. I am in no way saying the cabbie was correct, he was on his phone and it looked like he was scrolling though. but well done and keep going.