Court Result - Cabbie Guilty - Lost His Green Badge? LG22YFN

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The cabbie himself struck me as a kind and decent man, calm and well spoken. We chatted amicably after court and he understood why I do this, and gave me a hug as I wished him the best. He knows it isn't personal, and that I'm trying to improve road safety.
Also I know the end bit is out of order - that's because I filmed it with the idea of having that before BBB's segment, but BBB's segment is so good that it deserves to be near the beginning. Soz, and I'm too lazy to refilm the end bit.
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[@Manu-Official]

Nice touch having Blackbelt barrister on the channel to go through the legal lingo.

[@fritzdrybeam]

He's a bigot.

[@namastezen3300]

Very thorough. Hearing all the factors of the case was helpful in understanding the outcome. Thank you for taking the time to explore the issues.

[@Milkman-jg4jf]

This is a very simple case to prosecute. The taxi driver has ver clearly displayed that he has his mobile phone in his hand whilst in charge of a vehicle. To make the situation even worse he has a passenger on board. With zero regard for anyone's safety. He therefore should lose his green badge as well as his driving licence. There is no defence for the driver in this case.

[@stephengraham1153]

The solution to this is so, so simple. Don't for any reason touch any mobile device while in charge of a vehicle. It isn't rocket science. Perhaps the message will finally circulate the taxi driving community and they will stop breaking the law.

[@selcaf]

Hopefully he did loose his taxi badge and licence ... 🚕

[@kennethg9277]

​@@Kurwajegomacfolks like you are in no position to determine whether it takes a rocket scientist to understand a given proposition or not... this is because even an orangutan seems like a rocket scientist to you.

[@Ezekiel_Burton]

​@@kennethg9277Someone got offended...

[@out_spocken]

@@kennethg9277 you are irrelevant. go away now

[@judithmatthews8460]

Maybe if taxi passengers did get out and refuse to pay taxi drivers would be less likely to do it. Just imagine if the driver hit a pedestrian how guilty you’d feel for not taking a stand.

[@GilesWendes]

Most people in a cab in London are tourists or entitled rich people, neither know the law.

[@kennethg9277]

​@@GilesWendesthey neither know the law, nor do they care, nor does the law apply equally to them as it does to others.

[@Sunshinesmuse]

@@GilesWendes Absolutely everyone knows that it’s illegal to drive whilst using a mobile device !

[@thomascarroll9556]

Passengers should film any cab driver who is using a handheld device whilst driving, then get out (or at the end of their journey get out) and refuse to pay (maybe donate the fare to a charity), give the driver their details, when the word got round cabbies would stop this dangerous habit. “Over officious citizen” really, you are reporting a very dangerous action that could lead to injury or death to others, that’s not officious in any way.

[@PBMS123]

Interesting, Australia just uses the catch-all "toucch" you can't be touching your phone at all while driving. saves you needing all these use case examples.

[@cargy930]

Excellent catch, Mikey, and a great summary of the legal position by BBB. Odd that the brief would attempt to introduce _mens rea_ into a strict liability offence. My guess is this was just a case of a "throw everything at the wall you can think of and hope something sticks" defence tactic. On a side note, the two motorcycles parked on the footpath at 17:52 stood a very good chance of getting a ticket unless there's different regs for yellow lines in Royal Parks. Yellow lines cover the *entire* road - including pavements and verges - right up to the property boundary on each side of the road (and sometimes beyond).

[@CED99]

Question - as the law is written, it states "to make a contactless payment." If the cabbie is receiving a contactless payment, is that a different thing?

[@CED99]

Thanks BBB for answering

[@chrisbaines306]

Im a delivery driver , planners always phoning me , i have a lot of missed calls daily, they always say amswer youre phone, erm no im driving , i dont even allow hands free, its not worth it! No one is more important that they can wait a few minutes till ive pulled up.its not rocket science dont use youre phone while driving!! Simple

[@johnmorsley]

I'm sure you don't Mikey, but don't listen to the haters. I love what you do, especially as they make the roads safer for me and my friends and family. So please, keep up the good work!

[@lesjones471]

A tell tail that the taxi drive is not paying attension is that large gap infront of the offenders taxi,normal driving you keep the distance alot closer to the vehicle in front.

[@clivesmith2886]

Perhaps people who use their phones while driving will take note, it is dangerous and illegal To use your iPhone while driving, if a car driver killed their son or daughter while on the mobile phone. They would think differently.retired lifeboatman.

[@Disorder1889]

Even at 0 to 1mph ?

[@jamesmackinnon7727]

Nice work, Mikey. The concept per se that one lost his livelihood can merit sympathy based on isolated situation, but it’s indubitable that both the cabbie’s hands are on the phone - with a passenger no less! That’s bad. Very bad. I wonder what became of the hackney driver who tried to take away your camera, the doltish one who was ‘looking at’ a game on his phone in Hyde Park? That video takes the cake! I’m sorry about what happened to a loved one of yours because of an irresponsible driver 😔

[@Britishlady12]

I find it a bit uncomfortable looking and listening to you regarding a man who lost his way to earn .. that’s what I would say to Mikey .. I think it’s a man who gets pleasure from what he does !!.. he says it’s because of what happened to him and he’s doing this to make things safer .. if that’s true then if he felt that way then send the money you make from KZbin to a charity that helps victims out the money you earn on KZbin . That’s what annoys me about cycling mikey ..

[@KentRoads]

17:56 those bikes shouyldnt be there either

[@MrPantss]

Well done Mikey, totally support what you do. One thing you have gained from this experience is some of the ridiculous defences people/lawyers come up with which can help you with your approach in gathering evidence, such as the “you spoke to him which made him drive off”, 😂 great work Mikey

[@G-Man78]

Why aren't there any comments disagreeing with the conviction or the filming by the cyclist ? Could it be they have all been deleted or hidden by the KZbin video poster?🤔🤔🤔

[@garyboyle695]

There are, other idiots like you that don't think laws apply to them.

[@BK10011]

Honest questions… my understanding is using a ‘hands free’ is legal? Surely whether you’re receiving or making a call you take a hand off the wheel and will look at your phone if you don’t have/use voice activation. Your eyes are surely off the road and legally you are not in complete control of your vehicle. If it’s legal, how is this different? If you take a drink or perhaps are eating, maybe a sandwich, is this also illegal?

[@thebrowns5337]

It should be a clear cut 'no phone use' but people will whinge about having to change destination on their navigation app etc. I assume that's the reason for allowing use while the phone is held securley in a cradle. Of course, pressing other buttons on the dash is a distraction. Twice someone has driven into the back of my car as they were changing radio stations/music track on their car stereo. I suppose a balance must be struck.

[@scareneb]

I don't understand the defence at all. Is it not illegal to fabricate a story in court? I'm sick to death of Mikey's victims totally lying in front of a judge to attempt to get off (it was an emergency, I was taking contactless payment). Could the passenger have been called up as a witness in this case? Are there no consequences of lying?

[@kennethg9277]

No consequences for lying, even in public office, or if one is a copper.

[@philipreid2542]

Unless they had a reasonable excuse (difficulty walking etc.), taking a taxi from exhibition road to bayswater is pure laziness

[@SixBadges]

The Bench should have proposed to TFL that the law be more clearly explained to badge holders. The law says that you cannot take a payment unless you are stationary. I doubt that many badge holders are aware of this. It is therefore incumbent on the badge-issuer to explain the law to the badge-holders. The roads would be much safer if all taxi drivers were told that this practice is dangerous and illegal.

[@keziasarah]

Anyone else prepared to admit they had to look up the meaning of "obstreperous" 🤣🤣🤣 Let me save you the time.... Obstreperous comes from ob- plus strepere, a verb meaning "to make a noise," so someone who is obstreperous can be thought of as literally making noise to rebel against something, much like a protesting crowd or an unruly child. The word has been used in English since around the beginning of the 17th century.

[@omegaamigo]

The world needs *more* Overly-Officious Citizens 🙂

[@Mrhullsie2]

There have been times I have wondered are you being a little harsh on people using their phones whilst stopped. However it was clear from this footage that the driver was not in proper control of his vehicle, to argue that the reason he edged forward when surprised by Mikey just demonstrates that.

[@itsonlyme9938]

The passenger left hand on the left side of face the other hand on the right hand lap.

[@owlinthewood]

I’m surprised he didn’t have a go at the guy in the grey decorators van eating, no hands on the steering wheel while he was moving.

[@carguyuk7525]

Videos are very powerful evidence. I don't understand why this case was not wrapped up in 20 mins. Taxi driver should rethink if a career change is needed. If I was a passenger, then I would have said something to the driver about phone use, and I may have got out if it continued.

[@samparkes2011]

“He’ll pay his fine back £100 a month, which I’m fine with” Doesn’t matter whether you’re fine with it - you get no say in the judgment and it’s not made for you or subject to your approval. Get off your high horse ffs

[@mihael702]

From my point of wiew so many excuses from drivers site who dosen't have balls to say: yes Im guilty

[@keithbrowes1974]

Well done Mikey and a good end result

[@andrew-o5i]

guilty as charged ...............

[@ishootaliens6264]

Guilty. Simple. Should lose his taxi licence

[@johnmunro4952]

3D number plate should be enough to prosecute him over😂

[@richardhasler6718]

Nice work Mikey but what about a follow up prosecution case - perjury and driving without due care and attention? Seems entirely reasonable to me.

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

Big up BBB

[@ianlitchfield9273]

Tragic 😢

[@Pstaines439]

Great work Mikey. The fact that you are willing to spend you valuable private time doing this is very admirable. I love the term 'overly officious citizen'. From now on I will refer to people like you and I as OOCs😂

[@tefiktasdemir5662]

Shame on you

[@weevilinabox]

Looks like MIkey's advertising on the side of the cab at 3:33.

[@DieserLukas]

Thx!

[@andysmith819]

👍

[@WraithRaider]

So, the blackbelt barrister won't say this, but as an ex lawyer and current magistrate, I will. Some lawyers just want to have the perception of doing a good job and being able to charge their client a large fee by presenting these sorts of ludicrous arguments, that a first year law student would dismiss. Strict Liability is something you learn about very early in your studies and the wording of the legislation is not remotely ambiguous based on the clear evidence we saw. But the lawyer can say to their client that the magistrates got it wrong and that his arguments were correct and is an unjust result etc, and the client goes away with a large bill and thinking he got his money's worth. He'd have been better off with an unscrupulous solicitor who would have advised him to plead guilty, saving a the legal fees and prosecution costs.

[@Greek316]

As someone who has never studied law, I think this is pretty much common knowledge. They are happy to lose a case they know they will lose from the start as long as they get paid.

[@thebrowns5337]

Maybe the lawyer got his training the same place the taxi driver did his?

[@PedroConejo1939]

Fancy seeing BBB here! Great commentary and co-operation, and a good result. As you pointed out, there is a long, empty lane of parking spaces to the left of the taxi, and parking wasn't suspended that day. With that stop-start traffic, how many spaces would a driver 'lose' by pulling over and dealing with whatever needs to be dealt with? I do think it's time more people refuse to travel with those who use their phones when driving. Who travels with a drink-driver nowadays? We need to give phone-driving the same stigma.

[@debramitchell53]

I hope the cab driver didn’t pay the solicitor much money, because it doesn’t appear the solicitor had done any real preparation (didn’t even know his client’s name). Although even a good lawyer would have struggled to have got the cab driver off with the evidence available. Interesting to hear Black belt barrister’s take on it.

[@GilesWendes]

probably promised to get him off in the hope that Mikey wouldn't attend. Caught two more this morning myself.

[@grahvis]

Given the way drivers looking at their phones don't notice you, even when wearing a bright jacket, suggests he wasn't startled.

[@EvenBigger-Brother]

Now we all want to know the name of the firm who dragged this case out when they did not have a leg to stand on . nice one Mikey .

[@johnhiggins779]

Mikey as always you present yourself in a very professional manner, thanks for trying to keep our roads safe.

[@ggggddddddsssss]

definitely

[@retroonhisbikes]

Why would you use a device that could lead to a conviction in a busy london street with people watching. Shows a degree of arrogance

[@GilesWendes]

Saw about twenty this morning, don't have time to report them all but at least two will be receiving letters soon haha

[@SteveLoughran]

Boredom

[@out_spocken]

You didn't write that correctly. Why would you, as a professional driver, use a device...

[@JohnSmithShields]

Professional driver, no sympathy.

[@TheHungryTrollRawr]

THIS^ it really is that simple! You know the risks, not only to public safety, but to your own licence/Green badge! If you honestly cared enough, you wouldn't risk it! Man i walk my dog each day, I love my dog like a son, each car that passes the pavement I lock his leash just incase he suddenly bolts out into the road! I'm very switched on and fully alert to the risks/dangers that might happen at any given moment, the thought of being in control of a car whilst browsing my phone is absolutely ALIEN to me, It could never happen, i'm a responsible adult, not a child, I care about others and I could never forgive myself if I caused an accident, or worse even, caused a death! Leave your fucking phones alone ppl, wake up and take responsibility!

[@pipk7747]

Really enjoyed hearing the in's & out's of this. BBB was great. THANKS Mikey, your a great guy. We all want safe roads.

[@CyclingMikey]

Much appreciated!

[@petermastenbroek7719]

It is clear that this Cabby, and his lawyer too are bad LIARS, if he would have been using his phone for a "legal" action, why would he have dropped the phone when Mikey talked to him ? You have to be really stupid if your livelyhood depends on your license to do things like this, so it's well deserved IMHO.

[@timbailey4348]

telling lies in court is perjory send them both to jail

[@hywelmorgan3800]

"So you can't even touch it if it's in your hand" 02:41. There's an oxymoron to end all oxymorons.

[@petegreenfield8366]

Why do professional drivers take the risk of losing their jobs like this? They must know what the consequences will be if they’re caught.

[@thetraveller869]

They don’t think they’ll be caught…

[@out_spocken]

@@thetraveller869 like most people that do crimes yup

[@_ATW_]

Zero sympathy here. He's a taxi driver and had a passenger in his cab with him, and he _still_ decided to "phone-drive". He basically asked to lose his green card.

[@nonesuchtofu]

hello mikey, thank you for all your hard efforts! :) And thank you for dressing up so nicely and representing the cyclist community in style! :)

[@out_spocken]

CyclingMike is a bloody national treasure. Literally working on behalf of the every day person to keep them safe...and has probably saved countless people from many an injury and death no doubt.

[@out_spocken]

Im actually impressed it took Mike walking past that many car to see someone using their phone. Maybe people are waking up? Maybe Mike is having an effect?

[@blende5.693]

In germany are the rules totally clear. If your engine is on, you are not allowed to take the mobile phone in your hand. Just put the phone in your hands, meaning you are using it. The fine is 100€ plus 30€ for administration. 1 point for you driving license, 8 points and you are loosing your license. I can’t understand, why professional drivers take that risk to lose their license.

[@theuninivitedguest]

Good result Mikey and the driver deserves to lose his licence with TFL. Now maybe taxi drivers may realise that you can't use your mobile phone when you are working you shouldn't use your mobile phone. I also think now that mobile phone use should be that if you get caught using your phone for any reason except for an emergency, then it is an instant ban and loss of driving licence for at least 6 months. That driver could have easily pulled over and took the fare and the same goes for anyone needs to take a phone call if you don't have handfree system in your then you pull over, turn off the engine and pull the keys from the ignition before taken the phone call.

[@robertleem5643]

I have no sympathy, the taxi driver knew that if he was caught it would probably be a ban, others now need to think about their actions. You don't need to hold your phone for any reason. If you have to, pull over safely (I put the word safely as it's also surprising how many just pull over without regard for others around them) check their phone then put it away. Excellent job Mikey

[@stevendavies3563]

Can’t do the time don’t do the crime 👍

[@thebrowns5337]

classic right wing defence - it's your fault the other person broke the law.

[@markhorton8578]

Also it's normal to pay at the end of your journey, or before, not during. This is not the end of the journey.

[@andrew98115wl]

Put your damn phones down, put on some music and chill!

[@acesas69]

It is wrong to be on your phone whilst driving, and too many accidents have happened due to it. But to walk up peer in people’s car? That passenger could be disabled and not have an alternative? It’s not for you to question them at the end of the day. If this was travelling at speed I’d get it, but inching along in traffic? I just think this is more about your ego and a bit of a power trip than it is about road safety

[@kennethg9277]

The reason you think this way, is because you yourself are disabled. Mentally.

[@tonymullen8751]

I'm sure using a glib phrase such as"whatsapp gap" in your videos could be used in the future to throw shade on yourself as a credible witness.

[@es8117]

Interesting, the cab driver not only attempts to blame the passenger but also Mickey. Says it all really.

[@bikeelectric4821]

9:20 the cab driver is guilty of theft, hopefully that comes with jail time

[@StevieOnHisBike]

Mikey, forget the idiots making our roads dangerous, I'm appalled at the filthy state of your rear wheel (17:20 onwards). Great to hear from the BBB - fascinating. Keep up the good work!

[@daveydillon]

Great to see you hook up with Black Belt Barrister and really appreciate how you keep us up to date on the cases. Be safe and be lucky 😉

[@VadoVoodoo]

Wow this guy can talk the far end of a fart.

[@oldTimer-x3r]

In my mind he had lots of silly excuses. Well done Mikey in filming this one.

[@grahvis]

I'm reminded of the excuses offered when the breathalyser first came into use over 50 years ago.

[@maxmac7845]

Would there be a record of the exact time of the alleged payment being taken?

[@CyclingMikey]

If there was such a payment, then yes, there would be, but it wasn't offered in evidence so I suspect it never happened. Also, as BBB says - the exemption is for making a payment, not taking one.

[@craftsmanwoodturner]

Didn't he say in evidence that the fare went to Bayswater? In which case, why was the passenger paying half-way through the journey? I don't believe in this payment defence at all.

[@teamofsteve]

Can anyone explain why Mikey has to attend court? The evidence is on film, what does a personal appearance add? I’m assuming he is participating and not in the public gallery. Sorry if this has been asked before

[@robertpatrick3350]

Great to see BBB’s explanation as why the Orville Richard Burrell v Nervous Cochlear (2000) defender was ineffective.

[@travelphotos7662]

Impressive run down by BBB - lots of real information, as opposed to other video commentators who say a lot but don't say anything. I was weighed down by BBB's information trying to take it in and put it into context. This was fun (anything educational where I learn something is fun).

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

BBB is very thorough. But that's his job!

[@Britishlady12]

Sadly you obviously enjoy what you do .. which to me I find rather off putting. You make money from people you film on your camera . There’s certainly no fans here of you .

[@andycoooke]

Fascinating video. Did you intend that your friend's segment would be after your commentary? ("Let's now hear from..."). The edit might be slightly wrong (not that it matters too much).

[@CyclingMikey]

Yes, I planned to do it that way, but then BBB's segment was so good it had to go first, and I was too lazy to refilm my bit. Sorry!

[@shm5547]

Intersting distinction between making and taking a payment, but maybe for good reason. Taking a payment will require far more interaction with a phone than making a payment.

[@thebrowns5337]

It's an exemption geared up so that drive through restraunts can still operate. Nicely narrowed down by clearly omitting accepting payments - no wriggle room there. I still wonder how many people will choose to ignore the word 'contactless' though and think online shopping is fine as long as you pay at the end of the session. Of course, there are other measures - vehcile must be stationary etc. but some people always look for the excuses and ways around laws, rather than just not touching their phone while in control of a vehicle (which is the simplest thing ever).

[@catabaticanabatic3800]

The driver was startled? Just how stupid do these Lawyers think that Magistrates are? What a pathetic line of defence. Maybe in absolute -and demonstrable- extremis i.e. you are being pursued by persons intent on causing you serious harm, some sort of mitigation might be accepted. Might.

[@dedistaulapanodki6293]

The lawyers aren't stupid. They're paid by the hour, so it's in their interests to run any kind of defence in order to string it out.

[@girbeck3637]

You need to get yourself upto the rural top half of North Yorkshire as we have completely different mobile phones laws here. Car drivers are allowed to use hand held phones whenever they like, infact the more advanced your car is with tech the more you can physically hold in your hand or place on your lap.( no age limit to this ) Presumably the difficulty in connectivity with modern vehicles makes this compulsory. Van drivers are also allowed to use there's also at will but I believe you must also try to use your mounted dash device at the same time preferably once your above 30mph. Lorries, Ridged or Articulated units we seem to be running a every 7th or 8th vehicle can use a hand held device but this can also be placed between ear and shoulder if there are any roundabouts or tricky junctions to manoeuvre around. The large farm tractor and trailer use is very easy to understand its every other one. There you go, dead simple up here Happy Driving Ps Mickey keep up the good work

[@out_spocken]

You can't park on double lines anyway right? So letting a passenger out there/here would be illegal too?

[@paulcollyer801]

7:37 Were that a contactless payment terminal & not a mobile phone, that defence MIGHT have worked. However, as it was a phone, the only way that MIGHT have worked would have been a timed transfer from the customer’s account to the cabby’s account, and the customer exiting a little later; but ideally that should have been done legally stopped at the side of the road, not in the traffic queue. Edit; after watching the full video & Mikey’s like:- Seem BBB covered my thoughts, maybe I should retrain as a barrister as opposed to being a trucker… hehehe (not hapnin, aint sharp enough). It’ll be interesting to see how TFL viewed this as the driver had 2 x 3point offences already, albeit 1 expired. I would suspect that the solicitor representing the driver was either a) close friend or family, b) a last minute change or representation on the day of the case, or c) an absolute chancer. The representations made by them were, imho, potentially attempts to mislead the court if they had seen the evidence. All that said, the likelihood is that TFL have revoked the Hackney Carriage Licence and the driver is no longer able to ply for hire. Therefore the case needed defending robustly.

[@CyclingMikey]

Could be a bluetooth terminal that's operated by the phone - that's what he showed in court.

[@paulcollyer801]

@@CyclingMikey, however, that is also a device capable of transmitting &/or receiving data… so the driving aspect still prevents the defense

[@CyclingMikey]

Indeed, but he wouldn't be holding that terminal as it's in the back of the cab at the partition for the customer to present his card to. @@paulcollyer801

[@paulcollyer801]

@@CyclingMikey, indeed, but therein is the issue, hand held mobile device connecting & transmitting data to another device…. An admission of guilt under the Old regs no less. Law is such a lovely thing, as even when apparently clearly written, it isn’t lol

[@SteveLoughran]

One of those little square Bluetooth dongles works for payment. But: square will have logged the transaction, so the “it was a payment” defence should have been backed up with a printout of their transaction logs.

[@allanmanley6340]

I think the real fine will arrive in his postbox containing the invoice from the lawyer........ Great job Mikey!

[@MACK13]

Excellent work yet again Mikey 👍 Excellent and thorough explanation by BBB too. Totally avoidable very expensive life choice 😮 Slam Dunk👌👍👌

[@aljaliah6868]

Nice collaboration by two genuine KZbin "influencers" with genuine content , thank you both !

[@huwjones3347]

I would think the 'contactless payment' exemption is in place for things like road toll booths?

[@CED99]

Toll booths, drive throughs

[@ggggddddddsssss]

🥱🥱🥱🥱😌😌🥱🥱🥱No phone means no phone 🤳🏾 shows you haven't learned your lesson.

[@tanderson278]

How does Regulation 109 (MV Const & Use Regs 1986) impact on the use of Hands Free devices and Infotainment screens?

[@Mike_TGL]

This is the universe crossover we wanted! Just need an Ashley Neal cameo now.

[@giantwayne]

If he was taking a payment then why did he drop his phone when confronted!

[@PaulM_aka_4c21]

Pretty girl looked a bit lost following her phone map lol. Nice cross channel collaboration with Black Belt Barrister, keep up the good work Mikey !

[@johnfh]

This was extremely interesting. I watched the full 25 minutes, and appreciated the Blackbelt Barrister's communication skills - he's a professional! Well done Mikey, as you said you may need to keep the camera filming a bit longer,

[@chekaphski]

Any sign of the promised the cheap eggs any time soon? it's been a while!

[@nickbea3443]

If a contactless payment was being taken then there would be date/time stamp. The drivers lawyer could have prodcued that and compared that with Mickeys clip date stamp/time if nothing more than to weaken the case. All black cab taxi journeys I can recall in last few years, the driver collects money at destination. If this is such an issue, then put payment consoles in back of cab to avoid any confusion?

[@fredwest2234]

"If this is such an issue, then put payment consoles in back of cab to avoid any confusion?" It is a requirement of tfl that taxis have this facility. If he was taking a payment, then he would have stopped the meter; not very likely!

[@normanboyes4983]

Nice irrelevance.

[@l_o-r_e516]

Why dont you try help citizens and educate them for ones instead of helping government get more revenue? There are not criminal like you want to world to see them as, they just made a bad decision. You could be in the same situation one day and there will be 0 sympathy for you. Also london is a dangerous place you never know who you will be dealing with. I personally dont think its worth it what you doing.

[@CyclingMikey]

Speaking generally, you might think people will change after just being spoken to, but here's my experience: * Almost no driver will change their law breaking behaviours if I, just an "oik on a bike" ask them to. * A few drivers will change their ways after a police officer gives them words of advice. Most drivers will just go back to doing whatever they did wrong, such as using the phone an hour or a day later. * Most people will change their ways after being prosecuted for lawbreaking like this, and yet still some will continue to re-offend until banned. * A few banned drivers will still continue to offend after regaining their licences. * A very few banned drivers will still drive when banned. The break-point in effectiveness is prosecution - drivers need to be prosecuted to have much chance of altering their behaviour(s) for the better. My views and experience are confirmed by a several of traffic officers who tell me exactly the same.

[@giantwayne]

And those bad decisions could take a life, what then!

[@dlthompson945]

A Black-belt/Mikey mash-up..very informative.

[@CyclingMikey]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bikeelectric4821]

2:17 drivers need to put their smartphones in the trunk, as more than 3700 people die EVERY DAY from drivers

[@MyTing775]

3700 every year.

[@bikeelectric4821]

@@MyTing775 day!!! ~1.35 million people die from drivers every year, that's 3698/day and climbing

[@MyTing775]

@@bikeelectric4821 worldwide ?

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

They don't seem to be loosing their Green Badges

[@anthonyroach7974]

No sympathy everybody knows the rules

[@SHAUNYB0YTELLEM]

Mikey, you're the best! Great video!