CrackDown S01E21 - Is NA too sensitive to win? ft. Closer

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[@Nnothingg-]

1 use=1 like 2:05 was Closer ever worried about coming to NA 3:04 did he ever play vs Dom while he was in EU 3:44 other offers for Closer 5:00 why didn't he join Schalke 6:30 junglers turning into role players and farming junglers 9:22 is there a problem with turkish players 10:52 playing with BB 14:05 pros being stuck d1 600 games lul 16:48 did it bother him that people don't grind solo q 18:17 wtf is wrong with CLG and some players getting a pass when playing bad 27:28 items making adc op 29:20 getting damonte instead of golden glue 32:19 BUT CAN HE OUTWORK GOLDEN GLUE 34:03 meteos playing bad 37:18 meta changed thats why 38:35 was the kayn pick troll 41:29 wait that could be true 44:58 xmithies contract 46:51 TSM is fucked 52:06 dardoch 57:00 akadian 1:00:30 who is underrated 1:04:34 keith on supp smthn doesn't add up 1:07:45 if you flame em you lose 1:12:52 witch hunting ignar

[@jasonchen4807]

Dad

[@xilion1509]

Thank you!!

[@nicholaskhami1101]

Thank you so much!

[@SollieSenpai]

😍😍

[@malusdarkbane]

Once again a shout out for the the real hero. Somebody gift this man a sub.

[@zamirvisram420]

We are all just waiting for the day that Dom has a TSM player on the crackdown and to watch them get giga flamed

[@hermes9042]

not gonna happen, thorin said he won't invite any to his shows

[@akomar93]

@@hermes9042 why doh?

[@gabedurno6780]

@@akomar93 The president of TSM, Leena Xu, called Thorin fake news, which is a grave insult to actual jounalists.

[@tylordobey7543]

I'm pretty sure Reggie blacklisted Thoorin

[@Darsam88]

@@tylordobey7543 it was the fall out of the TSM stuff that happened with Lena. It was Thoorin that blacklisted them and made it his missions to expose TSM every chance he gets.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Blaber hitting that insane Lee Sin kick on Stixxay kicked all the talent out of his body and never came back

[@Hot_Soupp]

Lmfaooo

[@eirigwynjones6413]

Holy💀💀💀💀

[@kyin45]

Yeah cause blaber fuckin Qed back to it XD

[@SnakeTyrant]

dude he already finished 10th why you gotta kick him while hes down LOL

[@gerjondejong9237]

Dom, you have no idea how much I love this podcast. I Legit look forward for it every day after watching the last one.

[@braumishere4890]

I'm glad someone said it, the LCS should move to Chicago. It makes more sence than moving the server to LA.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

The thing is...everybody hates chicago weather and city. The major reason why players move to NA is because the flashy life style of Los Angeles. Great weather, decent beaches, the center of entertainment, great night life, diversity on the food.

[@ballsofzeus8632]

@@RomnysGonzalez I mean they just sit home and play video games why would the flashy life style of LA matter if they don't even go out that much

[@AmmielMaynard]

T1Alpha as fuck huh? but they normally do go out and have fun when in LA.

[@narhwallord6985]

@@RomnysGonzalez lol. They get paid hundres of thousands of dollars. They can suck it up and actually work on improving their fucking gameplay. Any place can be considered comfortable given enough money. However, many teams have already set-up multi-million dollar facilities in the LA area, so it becomes pretty hard for them to just get up and move.

[@Slyhades1]

@@RomnysGonzalez LA is a shithole, so moving to Chiraq would make no difference.

[@larxcandk]

Dom you ought to get Jizuke or BB on here.

[@joeybelangerdubois7134]

BB? Did you forget the Holy War?

[@larxcandk]

@@joeybelangerdubois7134 maybe. I don't remember such a thing lol.

[@Trinigan49]

@@larxcandk Let's just say BB is not coming on any time soon.

[@asiyt_]

Best lol podcast by far. Great guests and both dom and thorin seem to be genuinely having fun unlike in some of their other shows. 11/10

[@Jason-wx6uh]

This episode with Closer was awesome! I really enjoy hearing what he has to say and Dom and Thorin really did a good job talking with him.

[@robertchu7165]

58:15 thought loco was on crackdown for a second there

[@Ingyboy911]

Another excellent episode. You and Thorin have a great rapport, and always make a point to include the guests in a natural way. Always feels like the perfect mix of conversation, interview, and information. GREAT work. Keep it up, Dom! By far my favorite league show, with FaceCheck a close second!

[@tristindian]

Thorin with the Steven Gerrard "Yeaaa of course"

[@asapdispatch3734]

Crackdown best League related Podcast out. Dom kick Prolly from the analyst desk and step into the role, you may not be what everyone wants, but it's what we need.

[@gollowancompetitive751]

Best timed Crackdown in history, thank you very much for the on-time grade A entertainment delivery. Much love :)

[@gollowancompetitive751]

ALSO: I just love Dom&Thorin Synergy/Interaction/combined humor w/ever ... that shit cracks me everytime ^^

[@epi1763]

I like these type of guests you know the banter is going to be real

[@peterblack7449]

Love your content buddy, and the guests you get on the show are prime👌

[@broefkip]

As an adc main I keep repeating this, but I don't think it's the role that's weak or bad, but it feels like that to soloq players due to the reliability on teammates. That's what makes it so hard to balance. SoloQ support Xerath isn't gonna try and peel you (probably can't even if he wanted too) so you just insta die can't farm anywhere etc and it makes you feel very useless and weak. But as soon as they buff some items to give adc self peel or survivability it becomes ridicoulesly broken, especially in higher elo and pro play where people actually peel and play stuff like Lulu.

[@mountainoceanprojectgalves6274]

Imagine BB telling DL I’m getting priority in draft get me a carry cause DL can’t. Immediately fired lol

[@SnakeTyrant]

thorin using loco analogies at 58:07 lmfao

[@KorjinstaR]

To be honest there was not any change for Closer coming from Wildcard region since NA is a Wildcard region too :)

[@KeithRangerTFT]

Hahahahahahahahaha

[@Gsyekd]

X206Killj0yX maybe in 10 years but not anytime soon.

[@TheMyszeek]

@@Gsyekd or if they import whole team

[@MrAnimTeam]

@@TheMyszeek nah it's impossible to maintain your skill when you play vs randoms all the time

[@Upgraderednight]

It really do be like that tho

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Dom always touching his Temple with his fingers hahahaah

[@emineminoglou6915]

Nice to see turkish players getting some spotlight! Nice episode! The question sequence was kinda random at the beginning but nonetheless, keep them coming broo

[@Greippi10]

20:30 Dom is spitting hard facts there, "shotcallers" have been outdated for years by now. It's obvious when you look at the transition to the LPL dominance (and G2), everybody needs to be on top of the situation and willing to make the call.

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

Good episode. Closer is a good guest

[@Kediloveliy]

My brothers English became better and better when time went on

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

56:49 Akaadian just wants his team to trust him ;(

[@ovs4744]

His teammates don’t trust him with their girlfriends tho :(

[@DALESPEER2]

MY BOY CLOSER

[@michaellin6567]

better jungler wins

[@jansanxj]

Didnt seem to help GG

[@michaellin6567]

@@jansanxj jg diff

[@maddoscienttisto6271]

Lmao, that was actually quite funny episode. At start I was a bit sceptical since not every import has a good english or their accent is quite hard to understand, on top of it, if english is not ur first language, so it's harder for the viewer to understand it, and most of the time people from the middle pack teams aren't that straight forward when it comes to their answers... but this episode and closer proved me it all wrong, when they asked him about clg and their scrims and his answer was just "no", i already know this is going to be straight fire episode :D

[@neonnightdriver4302]

It feels to me like both Closer and Dom are on one line with each other the way they think about junglers in general.

[@kfkhishou6939]

The Podcast is literary dom and thorin flaming golden guardians while closer kinda nodding along \

[@Yied1]

Love Closer he is a great personality.

[@lebgdeco]

When meteos came back in c9 , he just do quarter finals of worlds , he was not awful Thorin ... And 3rd place in regular saison

[@toxygen6807]

Garibim closer sagdaki herifi anlayamamistir. Big fan closer!

[@a123456]

harbi ya ben de hep onu düşündüm

[@naenjoyer1201]

Noice

[@kingdobbygames4671]

WHAT?!?!? a podcast with IWD Closer and his dad ?!?!?!?

[@zobtastik]

Wonder what thorin wrote ? 🤔

[@akomar93]

Can anyone answer this one day we may know

[@surumeman7195]

I love Dom but crackdown so good I'm starting to care less about Facecheck...

[@BradleyArdis]

Wait when are they nerfing deaths dance I just got a positive win rate

[@jackiechan5486]

is there an explanation why TSM didn't go for closer when he came to NA? clarification: before 2019 spring split

[@cavalyn]

I've heard on other shows that TSM's upper management (Parth and Co) are really hooked on Spica. Like they REALLY like and believe in him. I think it was Dom, Loco and Dgon talking on it? Might be part of the reason. Other than that, TSM don't tend to take risks on new talent. They go after existing professionals and try to grab them in their prime instead of building them up.

[@Darsam88]

@@cavalyn he meant before 2019 spring

[@radekhruby142]

Nobody fuckin knew he is going to be good. Thats why

[@houeah]

Because they altrady had 2 imports. Zven- bb then kobe-bb

[@joelsteendam1874]

Nicest jungle NA! What a nice guy.

[@sumonok7258]

I just love Dom and Thorin together and I used to hate both of them xD

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Closer looks like avampire with a tan

[@ECIRRAC]

Yes NA animals need good mental over good logic and reasoning

[@Stein871]

they have none of the above lmao

[@dislexyc]

Me no like you, me run down mid

[@KaptainBallsack]

Thoooorin is a bit quiet at the beginning

[@KaptainBallsack]

16:00 CLOSER TO THE RESCUE for GBM

[@DiVeRsIoNify]

the ping problem is actually annoying and something they need to fix

[@guilhermebasso9219]

About the support role swap? Remember CoreJJ was an ADC, became a god support, so... it can happen.

[@surumeman7195]

@@peanutpart2 ADC at least can transfer matchup knowledge Keith Mcgrief moved from Mid to support. He not only needed to learn how to play support champ but every botlane matchup as well. Of course you'll grief that shit (in other words he didn't get enough time to learn)

[@ParallelZuVega]

Surume Man Keith was an ADC.... Huhi was a mid laner

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

48:55 Thank YOU Thorin. Doublelift was monster in 2018, not 2019. He was just "consistent" in 2019

[@reeve574]

I'm curious about what thorin typed in 56:00

[@danielcarranza351]

Parth is dating regis sister

[@davidpanic3374]

I think that making opponents name visible in soloq would be super benefical in order to destroy people onetricking a champ.

[@swordyshield]

damnnn

[@DSpaceCF]

"The problem with NA is not that we're all bad, but we're all fucking pussies". Love it.

[@Buskyb]

Na to sensitive... thumbnail of rekkles crying

[@VileMagicks]

Most of the friends i made in euw soloq are people that i flamed or got flamed by,it just works i guess.

[@tylerganske3788]

The ONLY fix for latency in NA is to add more servers. This will never happen in any Riot game because Tencent won't spend hundreds of millions of dollars on infrastructure for NA.

[@Amocoru]

As a resident of NA. Fuck yes NA is too sensitive for fucking EVERYTHING.

[@stefanmarinkovic1229]

I don't think that the comparisons between sports figures and lcs players is completely fair in the context of taking and giving flame,because all nba players for example have grown up in locker rooms,which really forges you as a person mentally,and most(at least i think)players from the lcs have probably never fully experienced such experiences since you have to stay home a lot to become good enough in lol,i don't know why euw players for example are more inclined to be toxic though, since they probably have spent a similar amount of time playing,thoughts?

[@cosminsabou604]

not pussyies

[@wyatt5167]

I mean EU culture has a lot of ribbing in it. Apparently it’s completely normal to essentially tease someone when you meet someone for the first time in EU countries to kind of gauge how far you can go (I watched and Irish persons top tips for Europeans visiting America video). She basically made that point and that by contrast, Americans don’t do that at all. For whatever reason we are much more careful with how we interact with strangers and we do our best to not offend. From her point of view this was because in America, since there are so many people from so many different backgrounds, you just don’t know how anyone’s going to react to even the smallest of “offenses”. In my opinion, we also have a extremely pc culture and Americans seem to need to believe that they’re great at everything they do, no matter how much effort they do or don’t put in and they expect to people tell them as much. I see this at my job all the time. People seem to have a set amount of effort that they want to put in, they don’t want to push themselves into that uncomfortable zone and actually be the best they can be, and even if they’re middle of the pack or below par in performance it’s almost impossible at times to break through the ego and get people to improve. They just get mad that someone’s saying something. It’s the dawn of the participation trophy era. All that to say, if the culture in EU has more ribbing/teasing in every day life, I’m sure their tolerance for shit online is way higher and by that same notion, since in NA you really only tease/are teased by your close friends your tolerance for it by strangers/people who aren’t close to you is more than likely going to be quite low. Mix that with Americans need to protect ego at all costs and reject criticism that that taints ones own self image...bewm na league.

[@wyatt5167]

I’m a boss at my work btw, not just walking around being “that guy” lol Literally had a guy that got himself fired because he had (not joking) two 40 minute raging tantrums on two separate days because he refused to clean the floors the correct way. He was the actual definition of “I showed up so someone should clap for me” lol

[@stefanmarinkovic1229]

@@wyatt5167 interesting,so it's just the way I thought it was,but I didnt want to come off as the edgy european shitting on americans,fair enough then

[@stefanmarinkovic1229]

@@wyatt5167 yeah i mean,i've seen videos where they explain that in retail stores or stores in general,like target for example,it is mandatory to put on a fake positive attitude,because everyone has to be jolly and happy all the time,which is quite the opposite from what ive seen here in Italy

[@zombieteam5k]

I don’t get the rekkles thumbnail lol

[@AggTheMag]

when they talked about the reason nukeduck it was so fucking funny...

[@nostalgiacorner1999]

53:32 Parth's ego is so big that they even make Dardoch play sejuani LUL

[@judgedbytime]

One narrative says NA players are toxic beyond reform and another saying they are too sensitive. Maybe these two things are related?

[@motherfuckingagorithimcomm6136]

Lol I see that thumbnail

[@matty121]

So was the thing typed in discord that Parth is dating regi's sister. The comment after about Keith dating someone's sister then doms reaction 🤔. Side note I don't even know if regi has a sister so I could be way off.

[@nguyentri3608]

Nah...that can’t be true. If it’s true, this incestuous conspiracy is running too deep.

[@beerainee]

33:49 banger joke that was glossed over

[@Shingeki__]

I think it's HILARIOUS that Stixxay is considered one of the worst adc's. Like, I always thought he was average at best. I still remember when Aphro at his peak saltyness said Stixxay was already better than DL and I'm just like.....bro the kid plays Cait and just auto attacks.... he's not even close to DL. It's like people were seeing only the results of his team. I don't think he's the worst, I mean FBI still exists, but it's nice to see him finally close to where he actually belongs on the tier list.

[@ab42506]

Thorin's mic quality LUL

[@loops1316]

I agree that LCS should be in Chicago or that Riot needs to add a system with better servers. The reason the server is not held on the west coast I would imagine is very simple really, the majority of Americans live on the East Coast so if players on the East had to deal with a Server located in LA it would be over 100+ ping and no one would play it heck people are already not playing it at 52+. It really would make sense if the LCS moved to Chicago. But the reason it will never happen is simple the teams have buildings where their teams practice out of so the majority of teams would have to come to agreement and riot would also have to approve.

[@acsu96]

I really enjoyed this episode, wasn't sure about Closer as a guest but he spoke up quite a bit which is never guaranteed with a pro guest, and had some cool insights. Thorin's comments about competitivity and American sports are interesting because it's true...it's not like NA people can't be competitive and 'toxic', so the question is why is this true for NA esports?

[@sownyp9980]

Because they are kids raised on internet culture which in NA is pure snowflakeness, while in sports probably they are more used to the "locker room" culture which toughened them up a bit

[@isaacvue6489]

55:30

[@Sma5hy]

if tsm got xmithie doublelift would coom

[@pearstastegood7843]

.

[@SelfMadeHero04]

The reason NA cares so much about toxicity is because they DONT care about winning. NA pros just wanna live the dream life, theyre not there to grind in a competitive environment. If someone tells you that you fucked up and you get all defensive about it, that means you dont have the bigger picture in mind.

[@toms7374]

I love how dom always says a pro needs to play allot of solo q goes on a rant then goes liquorice does pay soloq but he does 1v1's :)

[@henrikhornke4176]

And than there is wunder who plays wow and valorant instead of soloq

[@rodneyshen7397]

UPLAOD TO SPOTIFY PLZZZZZ

[@younghuynh6930]

19:00

[@younghuynh6930]

6:15

[@CallmeBforreal]

İs there any Turkish except me xD. This is rare

[@RaidsEpicly]

Accidentally clicked the new facecheck episode yesterday, phew glad your real podcast is out.

[@younghuynh6930]

45:00

[@dmitryrodionov2386]

1:03:15 I fucking loved this

[@nightmare_1337]

so, nobody talking about the Gnar plushy?

[@yearem8068]

Search GBM on KZbin

[@mikevidzdev]

least sexist ... mom has all the power ... hmmmmm: 1:12:00 , it was def sexist or can only men be sexist like only whites can be racist?

[@dallasharvick3124]

I feel like closer and nisqy would be good friends

[@Burak-bp3ob]

They are good friends,last split they so much duoq closer's streams and mostly speaking turkish

[@vanillaflavoured5735]

Nice, today we get to suffer Thorin instead of Loco

[@falldrake1796]

But the 5 head girl references....

[@jimmyjohnson9548]

The cognitive dissonance of Dom is just unfathomable.

[@sandau44]

How so? I didn't really notice this, but I may have just missed it.

[@c.nr.]

why does closer look like a big mouth character...

[@visces4447]

the fact that closer is on GG and is carrying them and playing really fucking good is why closer is better then blaber and the best jungler in NA rn

[@ryanbarrier6460]

Bruh blaber jgl diff every game... I'm not even a C9 fan and blaber curb stomps everyone

[@unalbugra186]

@@ryanbarrier6460 bro closer said early in this video jungle is looking your solo lanes then we can think c9's all solo lanes wins easily so blaber can play comfort and easy

[@jackiechan5486]

Agreed. I can't see blaber carry like closer. Blaber is aggressive because he has dependable, dominant lanes. Closer just 1v9

[@MoonFlowerCrown]

If blabber was on a team where he had to carry or they lose he would do it. He doesn't need to go 100% psycho to win his games. Also closer has thrown many games because of this mentality so yah blabber is way better.

[@Darsam88]

@@jackiechan5486 Blabber was aggressive before that come on man. Blabber has been psycho aggressive since he was picked up

[@TheGreatDrummerLevi]

Thoorin rewriting history again. Doublelift 2019 WAS good. Watch him vs tsm in finals vs zven where he just shit all over him, and same thing against sneaky in the summer finals. He told coaches "pick me varus and i carry" while 2-1 down vs tsm and actually did it. Without him they dont win both splits. Also his sona was probably the best in the world when sona/taric was a thing and people had to learn that. Regular season he didnt do that great, but playoffs he always was good.

[@Yied1]

Aph with deathdance 1v4 my team :D granted I had a hail of blades Ekko mid.

[@terrificlife1576]

LCS is so bad even Turkey make fun of NA :))

[@boofy2592]

Bjergsen didnt 1v9 his syndra game and he's washed and hurting his team.... just last split he was syndra 1v9 he goes even 1 game and its all over so stpuid

[@Dapperbutfrail]

Bjerg hasn't done anything special for 2 splits. His team is pretty bad but he isnt taking the lead he needs to in the meta. If he wanted to play zilean he should've done it 2 seasons ago when it was good.

[@lucasalarcon3230]

@@Dapperbutfrail to be fair bj summer 2019 was worse that spring 2020

[@arcanehavok3388]

you says toxicity is on another level in EU but I played NA for 2 years and played EU for 1 year 2017-2018 I got banned in 3 weeks for language in EU and I didnt change a single thing I said and now I just disable chat so I don't get banned for talking shit or flaming. For reference I am chat banned in NA now but previous I was never banned or punished in NA.

[@99Cata99]

double is worse than rekkles at this point, even rekkles played Syndra adc, at this point he's just cashing TSM money and talking shit of other orgs when clearly the problem was him and his motivation

[@yungsasarealchigga3437]

Dude doublelift is 9th or 10th ADC in na rn comparing him to rekkless is disrespectful

[@99Cata99]

@@yungsasarealchigga3437 I thought of him because of the image dom chose for the video, but also because it was such a big narrative on fnc especially during spring finals

[@prescottjeckel681]

All these people complaining about ping... I'm here with 80-120 on a good day...

[@samaustin765]

Spoiler alert. Yes. Yes it is.

[@imp_mane]

is na too sensitive to win, as narrated by the man who uses other players on his acc to get to a certain rank and pays them. We have money, that's for sure.

[@darwinvelazquez2109]

Everyone keeps saying XMITHIE to TSM, but i Say CLOSER to TSM would be the best.

[@gbasso666]

So TSM can ruin him too by putting him in Sejuani duty being Bejgsen and DL bitch? No thanks.

[@prajwalgangan2899]

No thanks.

[@skafiiphantom]

No thanks.

[@unalbugra186]

No thanks.

[@WidgetWagyu47292]

No thanks.

[@Mazterpk1]

Two of the most fragile egos on the internet get together to call NA soft

[@royalewithcheese17]

Thorin goes from criticizing people for swinging too far in one direction on a narrative at 45:40 to literally a minute later at 46:50 saying Doublelift is garbage based off a single weekend of play. Ffs don't complain about inconsistency and then do it yourself when your narrative comes up.