Crazy Hybrids Are The New Normal - The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott - Ep 152

It's not just Bugatti - we're seeing a shift away from pedestrian turbocharged engines and toward hybrids with an amazing engine as the centerpiece.
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There's a bunch of amazing stuff coming - but sadly nothing for enthusiasts who don't have unlimited funds.
Lamborghini has two new powertrains: a hybrid V-12 for the Revuelto and a 10,000-rpm V-8 for the Huracan replacement. Aston is developing a new V-12. The GMA T.50 and T.30 and Aston Valkyrie use a Cosworth V-12; the Bugatti Tourbillon uses a 9500-rpm Cosworth V-16. The Porsche 992.2 GTS uses an amazing hybrid turbocharged 3.6-liter flat-six.
What's happening in the car market? First, there's a discussion of who buys new cars? How old are car buyers? And how old is the average car on the road?
And why Hybrids all of a sudden?
What's happening is that manufacturers are realizing that a high-revving, vocal combustion engine is what customers want. And a plug-in hybrid system allows this to happen while passing emissions legislation.
All this and more in a very, very curmudgeonly episode of the Carmudgeon Show.

[@lowstrife]

Hey Jason & Showrunner - do you think you could start posting links to sources in the notes? Even just the news article or something, especially if it's something someone has prepared and is a main topic. Thx

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

If Miatas were $25k they’d sell hundreds of thousands of them every year. But they’re $40-50k so I’d much rather get a 14 year old Boxster and 2 motorcycles.

[@adriaanserrao2016]

This was clearly filmed before the debut of the new m5😂

[@STRGHTSXBNZ]

So nobody is gonna give Derek crap for pronouncing "PoleStar" as "molester"? Come on! Do your homework Derek! Everyone knows the brand is named after entertainment girls dancing on poles...

[@corysekine-pettite1783]

One problem with the GR86 and BRZ is that those of us who are interested in them can't find them! Dealers aren't stocking them.

[@BEGGARWOOD1]

Welcome to the world of modern capitalism

[@joekavalauskas8767]

Jason, you should get into Motorcycles. The modern engineering and tech is still impressive and not some wealth extraction appliance on 4 wheels.

[@Fra-gee-lay]

26 years old. This episode is a pretty tight example of one of the reasons I stopped frothing at the mouth in excitement over cars in general and stared doubling down on motorcycles. I can’t afford a new car, I can’t afford the car I have now (funny enough a used 2019 rdx) and am actively trying to get rid of it inspite of my spouse. I can’t afford a old e30 because 5k for something I immediately need to put 3k into and it needs to be a daily because I don’t have a garage or the space to shuffle 2nd+ car away yet a motorcycle or two can do those while also capable of being fixed in a day/weekend on anything other than fully replacing a frame

[@shackleton274]

This is the reality that I've been thinking about for a while now.....cars are becoming less and less interesting, and with EVs now coming in, even less interesting....and although they are quick in a straight line....this is actually only one small topic to talk about.....what are journalists going to get us excited about in the future....I'm so glad I grew up in the best era ever for the automobile...(last 30 years).....each year, new and interesting cars were released with ....variety of engines, variety of drivetrains, a good blend of tech and engineering......all this is now just a big computer on wheels with no emotion......I need to start buying up more old cars for fun....

[@stromaluski]

Jake deserves a raise for the inserts that he does in all these episodes. They're hilarious.

[@OdyTypeR]

The average new car transaction is $47,000?

[@artsohc]

"What 29 or 30 year old do you know could afford a $47k car?"

[@flacjacket]

38:42

[@MrThrustSSC]

23:27

[@michaelking6596]

Crazy hybrids are the new normal....

[@artsohc]

Icons options I'd love to hear on...

[@abrahammendoza7620]

See, I kinda thought Icons was about cars we know about, revelations was the backstory about cars we don't. It doesn't matter to me in the end, as long as it's about a car with a great script, I'm watching it.

[@rydirban]

They're older than I think they are?!? Fuck you with your facts! 😂

[@rysean]

A couple of points that could add some clarity:

[@t17389z]

My fiancée and I bought a used 2021 Launch Edition Polestar 2 as our daily driver and we love it. The performance pack adds Ohlins dampers and BIG brembos to already great chassis dynamics, and makes it a real M3 competitor IMO. We've put 36,000 miles on it in 6 months, no issues whatsoever. Absolutely superb.