Crisis Core: C09S03 Truth Revealed [English Sub]

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Chocolinx

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@manicmuffin
@manicmuffin 16 жыл бұрын
I love how Zack gets pwned by a Fire spell, while Sephiroth so easily blocks it. LOL
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 16 жыл бұрын
Brilliant strategy, by the way, Genesis. Completely shatter his world, then ask for his help. I wonder why you didn't become the famous hero. :)
@Shademp
@Shademp 16 жыл бұрын
This scene makes the compilation make more sense. Because Genesis claimed Jenova to be a monster, it is only a natural reaction that Sephiroth is SO willing to accept that Jenova is an Ancient. Sephiroth's wish to transcend normal existence is a self-defense mechanism after having his humanity taken away.
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 16 жыл бұрын
Apple represents Banora, where all the first experiments began. It's called Crisis Core because these are the chains of event that eventually lead to Final Fantasy VII, thus creating the original crisis.
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 17 жыл бұрын
And the moral of the story is - never listen to your insane, jealous friends. :) Poor Sephy! He looks so heartbroken. It's hard to think of him as a villain after seeing this.
@Zeltic3
@Zeltic3 16 жыл бұрын
Ah, Sephiroth is so gorgeous when he is upset.
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 17 жыл бұрын
With what little Sephiroth knew of Jenova, and what he read in the basement of the Shin-Ra basement. He simply came to his own conclusions but unfortunately they were all wrong. But the fact that Sephiroth has Jenova's cell doesn't change. He carries her will, which is to destroy the planet of it's people. And Sephiroth was simply following instinct.
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 15 жыл бұрын
If you ask me, his reaction to meeting Lucrecia wouldn't have been much better, if not worse. Either the fact that she experimented on him, or that she (at least in the DoC Version) just used his father to make Vinny lose intrest in her, or at very least that she was ALIVE all the time but didn't come for him because she was so ashamed of his existance (even before the whole world destruction think) would have been enough for him to stab her in the gut. And then he would have snapped anyway.
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 17 жыл бұрын
According to the books Jenova is known/discovered 2000 years ago, imprisoned by Ancients. Gast misinterpets the information and believes Jenova is an Ancients. But the truth is the Ancients labeled her as a calamity that fell from the sky.
@blue3lf
@blue3lf 15 жыл бұрын
One thing that I hope they'll clear up is that Sephiroth is the one who ends up controlling Jenova and not the other way around like so many people think. There were enough people who actually thought Jenova WAS Sephiroth's mother. Hopefully as time goes on things will be clearer. I'll have to finish watching the rest of the scenes but for now it's time to get some sleep.
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 16 жыл бұрын
When I heard that myself I didn't really understand either. But what it could mean is the cells don't age, therefore he won't deteriorate or age as fast. Basically all you have to know is "Deterioration" won't happen in Sephiroth because of the way the project was used on him.
@zefert
@zefert 17 жыл бұрын
thanks for all the uploading
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
Mako poisoning is not a result of overexposure to Mako. It's a result of the subject being too physically/mentally/emotionally weak to withstand the Mako treatment. As a result the person has a mental breakdown (Mako poisoning). It is for this reason that Turks only scout for the strongest (mentally/physically/emotionally) people to become SOLDIERs. Cloud was NOT strong (thus why he failed the initial test & broke down mentally when Hojo exposed him to Mako the 2nd time during his experiments).
@Weiss_Hikari
@Weiss_Hikari 6 жыл бұрын
People seem confused about Genesis’ actions here, but he basically attempts to bring Sephiroth to his side like Angeal when Angeal discovered his lack of humanity.
@EvelynL.1112
@EvelynL.1112 6 жыл бұрын
Chris2Hikari I already knew that, but the way Genesis is acting towards his two friends is unacceptable.
@meretofabydos3645
@meretofabydos3645 4 жыл бұрын
Evelyn L. - Don’t forget his mental state at that moment, desperately searching for something, which stop his degradation, full of bitterness an rage of what that happened to him, feeling nearly everyone had betrayed him and consumed by the desire of vengeance. His ability of making of a proper approach might be clouded, otherwise it really make no sense to speak to a person you need desperately help from.And Sephiroth wasn’t really nice either to his friend, At least it is a pity that all 3 couldn’t find strength in there friendship to back them up mentally and fight the true enemy together.
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 16 жыл бұрын
A bit, yeah. Makes sense, since Gackt apparently inspired Cloud's look. It would be funny, in a future sequel, to have them meet and one of them say, "You look very familiar."
@DemonicFireDragon
@DemonicFireDragon 16 жыл бұрын
Some people hate Sephiroth because he's a bad guy, but how can you blame him when he suddenly learned the truth? He was experimented on before he was even born and he never knew that. *sighs* Some people...
@definitivamenteno-malo7919
@definitivamenteno-malo7919 3 жыл бұрын
Man, what a blast from the past, with unironical punctuations-made emojis :')
@dzakkei
@dzakkei 14 жыл бұрын
Zack just flies past the screen 0:40 lol
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
Ok I just realized that Genesis said he needed Jenova's cells to stop his 'decay', but he was standing right in front of where her body is. Why does he need Seph to 'lend him his cells'? He obviously knows where she is so why didn't he just take her body (or a part of it) like Seph does later? AND it seemed like Seph was about to help him (he says "what can I do?") until Genesis started defecating from the mouth and pissed him off. If he had only asked Seph nicely...
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 16 жыл бұрын
Ultimania Omega. It's a magazine that came out in Japan that explain a few things in the FF7 world. There was never an English release of the magazine.
@CaptainDiavol
@CaptainDiavol 16 жыл бұрын
i dunno why but at 42 seconds with Zack flying i found funny i dunno why XD
@DisGuyRSick
@DisGuyRSick 15 жыл бұрын
Don't forget his father. He'd be pissed if he knew who his father was. Which you should already know.
@Roriette
@Roriette 14 жыл бұрын
That is what we call a dramatic entrance. -you had me cracking up for a full minute ._.-
@skkygirl
@skkygirl 16 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be great if someone, preferably one of his horrible parents or Cloud or Vincent would just sit him down and tell him that?
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 17 жыл бұрын
It's not about how they were made. It's what they know that makes them go emotionally unstable. Genesis killed his parents because he thought of them as traitors. Lying to him his entire life. Sephiroth on the other hand hates the world because he believe Jenova is an Ancient but she isn't. He thinks the world should suffer because they treated her so poorly. Now if no one told anythign to Sephiroth he'd still be living out his peaceful life as a SOLDIER.
@theginga2914
@theginga2914 16 жыл бұрын
"go decay" lol
@rapidrainy
@rapidrainy 16 жыл бұрын
NOOO Sephiroth! Your mother isn't Jenova! She is Lucrecia!!! A human! You are a HUMAN, not a MONSTER. Screw Genesis!
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 17 жыл бұрын
But if you think about it, he went mad for all the wrong reasons. First he got the wrong information, second he misread everything he read in the Shin-Ra basement mansion lol If someone told him the entire truth he probably wouldn't have gone mad.
@Dreamerx47
@Dreamerx47 14 жыл бұрын
confused in a "lets wipe out humanity so i can become a god while carrying the head of an alien corpse around and calling it mother" kinda way
@PhantomR32
@PhantomR32 16 жыл бұрын
Soooo this is why Sephiroth locks himself in the library in the mansion then goes insane abd burns down the town.. Looks like they will have to do a remake of FFVII afterall to add some of these Genesis moments.
@lhf85
@lhf85 15 жыл бұрын
nah, actually when i thought about it more i realised that sephiroth didnt create the clones. hojo did but sephiroth was able to exert control over them
@cryingangel94
@cryingangel94 16 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing peole say Sephiroth is hust a cold fish. But since when can a cold fish feel so sad?????? Sephiroth's entire life shouldn't have been that way. To hell with Genesis and Hojo!
@yeahyeahyeahz2345
@yeahyeahyeahz2345 15 жыл бұрын
so genisis also played a role, in making sephiroth go mad.
@butterflyed
@butterflyed 16 жыл бұрын
couldnt have put it better meself ..i cant help but love sephy still..he's so misunderstood by all who only ask 'oh who's good and who's evil'
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 17 жыл бұрын
Hmm...wait, Jenova was discovered 2000 years before this? I thought she was imprisoned by the Cetra 2000 years ago and discovered fairly recently. I've never been able to keep this timeline straight...
@TabrisAnobi
@TabrisAnobi 15 жыл бұрын
Those technically were not true Clones of him, Infact "Clone" is in fact a misnomer. Sephiroth Clones are not genetic copies of Sephiroth, but rather those who carry the cells of Jenova, which Sephiroth exerts his will through to use the 'clones' as his puppets.
@Finalbreathfantasy
@Finalbreathfantasy 15 жыл бұрын
Arent the clones survivors who were injected with sephiroths cells? Those may be the clones and they might have added Jenova's cells as well. Because of that He was able to gain control over them.
@fashionforty
@fashionforty 16 жыл бұрын
no Genisis is the gackt lookalike better yet he actually is model completely after gackt. Gackt even does the voice for genisis in the japanese version.
@Maitimop
@Maitimop 15 жыл бұрын
@ Deusericus: "wonder what Sephiroth was like when he was a kid?" Probably a lot like Kadaj in "Advent Children" in his more childlike moments.
@blue3lf
@blue3lf 15 жыл бұрын
Seriously... enough with the LOVELESS quotes! We get it already! Also, I'm wondering what their official cannon explanation for why we didn't see anything like this in the original will be. Obviously, this all came much much later. I suppose that will happen in the next video.
@chaos1778
@chaos1778 16 жыл бұрын
lol, so Genesis is the one who caused Sephiroth to go crazy and started the whole chain of events that led to FFVII. =P
@lhf85
@lhf85 15 жыл бұрын
confused about 1 thing. genesis says sephiroth cannot create clones. but in ff7 while he was frozen in the lifestream (at northern crater?) he created plenty of clones...
@XxkloudxX354
@XxkloudxX354 16 жыл бұрын
so the goddess's gift is sephiroth (to be more specific his cells)
@Lu666Ka600AA
@Lu666Ka600AA 14 жыл бұрын
Has anyone... even TRIED to tell Sephiroth that his mother was actually Lucrecia and not Jenova ...? *I'll destroy the whole Planet and...* *Your mother's not Jenova, is Lucrecia, a Human* *Oh, nvm then...* THE END.
@Lawliett13
@Lawliett13 16 жыл бұрын
*sigh* Just more justification on Seph's part.. Crisis Core explains so much...
@spiritdancer22
@spiritdancer22 16 жыл бұрын
Grr, Genesis!! You had to talk! Zack should of just taken Genesis's LOVELESS book and smacked him upside the head a few times.
@Deusericus
@Deusericus 15 жыл бұрын
wonder what Sephiroth was like when he was a kid?
@TheEvilPizza
@TheEvilPizza 13 жыл бұрын
@HechEff yeah he is *w* he is just way too good in this *w* an amazing voice actor
@AriesBG
@AriesBG 16 жыл бұрын
I begun to hate Genesis!Sephiroth is not a monster,he have no guilt for all these experiments.
@rose444100
@rose444100 15 жыл бұрын
I think when he was frozen it changed him.
@darkangelofhate
@darkangelofhate 16 жыл бұрын
have you noticed that as genesis turns white so does his clothes
@princessmarthajandio
@princessmarthajandio 13 жыл бұрын
@senseimegure Amen to that. I wish he knew about Lucrecia being his mother.
@dathip
@dathip 14 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain why Sephiroth would refuse to help Genesis? I thought my helping Genesis the degradation would stop...
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 17 жыл бұрын
Or maybe just gone mad in a good, Hojo-slaying way. :)
@bleedingberryjuice
@bleedingberryjuice 13 жыл бұрын
Gackt! :D His voice...=w=
@wildperson
@wildperson 15 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Sephiroth drag Cloud into the Lifestream for the final fight in FFVII?
@princessmarthajandio
@princessmarthajandio 13 жыл бұрын
@DarkFlip22 I think he does. He's just ashamed to admit it. At least that's what I think.
@jatdaman
@jatdaman 12 жыл бұрын
Insults his mom, and then asks for his help. O.o
@accbcell
@accbcell 11 жыл бұрын
I think he did think that S would help him. If not, why told S the truth bluntly. But then of course he could have other reasons, which I find just as likely, e.g deliberately provoking S to hate him so that he (S) would reject him (G) or kill him
@Greatsharkbite
@Greatsharkbite 15 жыл бұрын
They did come out with a movie between ff7 and crisis core. It was animated. Also this game is very good but doesn't touch the original.
@clarakawai
@clarakawai 17 жыл бұрын
but..but.. I thought they were friends....
@Rezetro
@Rezetro 16 жыл бұрын
"you will rot!"
@yeahyeahyeahz2345
@yeahyeahyeahz2345 14 жыл бұрын
@FrozenAnarchy lmfao.
@BBknickers
@BBknickers 15 жыл бұрын
How long were Zack and Genesis and Sephiroth friends for? Wasn't it Angeal who was Genesis and Sephiroth's friend? Thanks.
@accbcell
@accbcell 11 жыл бұрын
I think it's cos G had made him very angry at the time
@selina7thats7me
@selina7thats7me 13 жыл бұрын
@TheJenovamother Indeed.
@MichelleFerrerchannel
@MichelleFerrerchannel 13 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please tell me where can I see Crisis Core completely :D? As far as I can see, it is stupid Genesis's fault that Sephiroth changed the way he did !
@Tecnho
@Tecnho 13 жыл бұрын
"Go Decay" ROTFL.
@Glaceon_Guy
@Glaceon_Guy 14 жыл бұрын
LOL Zack @ 0:39
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 15 жыл бұрын
it's suposed to be a mindfuck. Just like NGE. Or Elfen Lied.
@accbcell
@accbcell 11 жыл бұрын
"produce apple" material, LOL
@Rezetro
@Rezetro 16 жыл бұрын
If that exact scene was to be reeacted, how would his sword just suddenly appear and start hitting things? It could work with blocky graphics... but with these graphics it would look absurd. pull the sword out of thin air and hit away lol. not gonna work...
@dathip
@dathip 14 жыл бұрын
Why does Genesis talk so much through the game about Loveless and this "Goddess"
@Latrodectra
@Latrodectra 15 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have this game subtitled. The Japanese VA is so much better.
@squirtPandorica
@squirtPandorica 11 жыл бұрын
The beta translate option on the captions... pfft xD
@reallydead
@reallydead 16 жыл бұрын
unknown to the human body XD
@TheEvilPizza
@TheEvilPizza 13 жыл бұрын
@Athlynne well actually that was Gackt Xd
@cryingangel94
@cryingangel94 16 жыл бұрын
why genesis????? Why didn't you just use parts of LOVELESS like you always do????? Why did you have to use words on your own?????
@LuckySevenSamson
@LuckySevenSamson 16 жыл бұрын
That's not cool. See, this game makes you feel sorry for all parties involved, including Sephiroth. Because even he had a good side before he went nuts.
@4eversupersonicgirl
@4eversupersonicgirl 11 жыл бұрын
he didnt....
@accbcell
@accbcell 11 жыл бұрын
Lol. This would be a nice scene to watch
@Somedumbassname
@Somedumbassname 15 жыл бұрын
Wow, Sephiroth's and Genesis Japanese actors are really off. Sephiroth's does him much better evil, but as a good guy, he's sounds way off. English actually seems a lot better here.
@sephieslove
@sephieslove 16 жыл бұрын
genesis is a ass, look what he did gone and did now, provoked Sephiroth. Saying What can I do, well you attempted to destroy the whole friggin world in ff7 small beans right sephiroth?
@wildperson
@wildperson 15 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and Omnislash even charged on it's own. Right when the fight start, just push Limit and Omnislash and away you go. Game end. XD (Actually, what happens if you don't have Omnislash by the end of the game?)
@FerretsForever94
@FerretsForever94 14 жыл бұрын
I disagree and agree with that statement. I love Crisis Core and the story. In a weird sense, it fit and didn't fit in with the original...
@Kyden45
@Kyden45 16 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@accbcell
@accbcell 11 жыл бұрын
I find it funny too, lol
@starfishsicko
@starfishsicko 16 жыл бұрын
This retcon ruined the game for me. It was my favorite scene from the original.
@wildperson
@wildperson 15 жыл бұрын
Well, whatever happened--that was a pretty pathetic fight...=_=;
@1Larxene1
@1Larxene1 15 жыл бұрын
god why nobody tell Sephiroth the truth??? i mean in all the time even in ac he don't know the truth and still fighting for nothing......
@BlackMariahBitch
@BlackMariahBitch 16 жыл бұрын
Wow, poor Sephiroth. I love that this game goes into more detail about how he went a little insane. But you gott give Genesis credit, it was a pretty good mind fuck.
@xion38
@xion38 15 жыл бұрын
this is not a sequel its a prequel. and u actually want sephiroth to be a heartless evil monster with no life story?
@Inyaah
@Inyaah 15 жыл бұрын
i only watched the Advent Children....but now i watched this one..i realise Sephiroth was the good guy...until Genesis came in and told him the truth...i feel sorry for him :(
@Chocolinx
@Chocolinx 16 жыл бұрын
Not really. That isn't true at all. They could leave FF7 the way it is, since FF7 is from Cloud's Point of View (POV). Cloud was never inside the reactor when Genesis appeared so you wouldn't see Genesis in the Original game. Although what they should add in the remake is talks about how Tseng and Cloud had some missions together.
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
Mako exposure wasn't a part of Project G/S...only the injection of Jenova cells. Mako treatment was a part of the SOLDIER project (fully grown human males scouted by the Turks are chosen to become SOLDIERs & are injected with Jenova and treated with Mako). I don't think Genesis/Angeal/Sephiroth were treated with Mako until they were chosen to be the initial SOLDIERs (I can't find anything to the contrary in the FF7 Ultimanias, etc).
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
Genesis was experimented on BEFORE Angeal...this is why Prof Hollander refers to Angeal as the 'perfected' experiment. He considered Genesis a failure & tried a different method of injecting the Jenova cells with Gillian/Angeal. Further still, another improvement upon the method was employed with Lucrecia/Sephiroth, which explains why Sephiroth is referred to as 'perfect'. Genesis was trial #1 (good); Angeal was trial #2 (better); Sephiroth was trial #3 (best - the perfected experiment).
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
Yeah...they don't do a very good job of explaining how Jenova cells are supposed to stop Genesis' decay, esp. since he seems to have been renewed after he became that creature and got rejected by Minerva. And maybe I'm wrong...I just assumed Seph was willing to help (until he got pissed off), just like he was trying to concede to Genesis earlier about being the hero of the Loveless poem ("you can be the hero if you want"). Maybe too much Loveless pissed Seph off...lol "Go decay".
@Athlynne
@Athlynne 16 жыл бұрын
Hmm. I interpreted the "What can I do?" first as: - Sephiroth is overwhelmed. "What can I say to this?" then - Sephiroth is analyzing. "You can make clones, what weirdo monster powers do I have?" I never even thought he might be offering to help. I feel for Chocolinx. Japanese seems like it's really difficult to translate into English and be sure you've got the meaning that was intended.
@KendrixTermina
@KendrixTermina 15 жыл бұрын
...Genesis could have said this way nicer. Yet, this "Go rot!" part was unbelievably badass. Note the slight reference to the whole Adam and Eve crap. Of course, in this mythology crap, Jenova would probably take the Role of Lillith, the mother of Demons.... and the one who let the stupid apple stay where it was, just like sephy did.
@masonts
@masonts 16 жыл бұрын
I thought he was so willing to accept that she's an Ancient b/c it was written in Prof Gast's lab journals and Seph had much respect/admiration for Prof Gast. But I do agree about the humanity part, rather than view himself as a monster he chose to view himself as the descendant of a god.
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