CrossFit Needs More Of THIS

[@olsonrerj]

Your analytical capabilities are truly top notch. I don't know exactly how old you are and therefore where you possibly are in your working years / career, but if you're not in some sort of technical analyst field, you're missing your calling!

[@eliabnerluna8646]

couldnt agree more

[@Fikowski]

There are a lot of high risk moments happening in nearly every test at every competition. But the announcers don’t understand the nuances of the sport so they don’t explain them to the audience. So some tests seem boring when really they’re not. At least in my opinion. I mean baseball is sort of ‘boring’ but with great announcers they help you understand the chess game that’s occurring under the surface. Overall I completely understand where you’re coming from, but a lot of the things you’re suggesting are Manufacturing drama. They border on gimmicky, and yes might be initially more exciting visually. They would likely lead to a lot of inaccuracies in athlete’a overall rankings if done frequently or incorrectly. The more trap-doors you program, it can quickly become a circus act game show and not a sporting competition. However I love the general idea of designing workouts to ensure they’re more spectator friendly!

[@Fikowski]

Overall I love this video. I think you’re really onto something here. I’ll send you an IG dm man!

[@masonstartup1410]

I agree, I think the announcers,camera angles and stream set up could all be improved which would already make for a more engaging watch. I think some of what I said defintley could be seeking to manufacture drama, but thats what we get with a professional sport. But I think these things can ride a line between making things more dramatic while also fitting within the crossfit methodology. These event formats will only lead to innacuracies if done too often or poorly programmed you’re completely right. But, used correctly i think they are valid tests of fitness. It all goes back to variance. I think if there is ENOUGH variance the fittest will rise to the top. For example, had there not been such agressive cuts in 2019 (which is a whole other topic) and you had been able to compete in a broader range of tests, your fitness would have shown. That second cut was only 1 of 5 workouts you got to do that year (which is not a complete test at all). But in my opinion the unbroken requirement on second cut was a valid test and fits in the methodology. Im not saying these need to be in a ton of events, or we don’t even have see them every year, but I think they could definitely be used more often than they have been.

[@wodgodz2950]

completely agree....likely there is no actual director running the media. What I mean is someone in charge of the audio and video so that when video is interesting the audio is matching that in real time. And vice versa. This person would have to be deeply into the CrossFit game--knowing all the athletes and their strengths and weaknesses to really make it work. Think NFL...

[@MatthewJwelty]

unbroken requirement was included on the single unders in the 2022 Games.

[@jater10]

It is good to have. But to the non-CrossFitter who watches it, and if they see an athlete struggling through single unders - which to most of the public is a basic use of a jumprope - it kinda looks bad on the sport. Unbroken requirement should be limited to very high skill movements that most gym-goers - especially those who are not into CrossFit - can not do. Handstand walk and muscle ups are appropriate. That way it highlights the abilities of the athletes while testing appropriately.

[@benchpress200]

For sports in general, there's two main reasons to watch: either you play the sport yourself and can appreciate the technical difficulties/abilities of the athletes, or you care about the outcome like having a home team or favorite athlete to cheer for. That's why for me, as a powerlifter, I love watching all the barbell events in crossfit but I usually get bored and fast forward most of the other events.

[@hillerfit]

Another good video. On that first point. We would need to make the movements more challenging, or the athletes less fit.

[@masonstartup1410]

Thanks! Idk the exact numbers, but for example, something like unbroken sets of 10 front squats #225, or 20 bar muscle ups in a workout. I really just think anything that is a large enough commitment to make the athletes think twice, or is big enough that some might even start too early and fail.

[@djones3291]

@@masonstartup1410I think both those things would be a joke to a games level athlete (obviously depending on the volume and level of fatigue built up during the workout)

[@Fikowski]

@@masonstartup1410yes something like this could work! Let’s say you had a workout that was 4 rounds. 10 fs 225, 15 BMU. All must be unbroken. The reality is that workout would actually be very boring. Maybe 4 men would push the pace, do it all unbroken. Everyone else would be taking monstrously long breaks, knowing without the big breaks they’d be failing. So the leaderboard would likely reflect similarly if the workout didn’t have mandatory unbroken sections… but athletes 5-40 would just have slower times and even more time between finishing times? My prediction at least

[@AlexWindover]

@@Fikowski only one way to find out.....get your boys together

[@AlexWindover]

@@Fikowski what if just the LAST set has to be unbroken? You and Vellner, Adler, Medieros and Roman all just dropped the bar within 10 seconds of each other and you all are looking at each other to see whose going first ........sounds fun

[@ryan.coogler]

what about a time trial style where they don't know where their competitors finished, and thus have to figure it out for themselves .

[@kristophervelez7490]

Cycling would be great for this.

[@jamesbrewer5785]

Kinda what happened in the Covid year

[@KingNikkz]

This may be a good idea for some aspect, but it is worse to watch than seeing them go next to each other.

[@drakelewis3397]

Great video brotha! I also think of Jackie pro in 2022 with the set pace on the row that had to be hit. I think that’s some of the new style we got with Boz. Hopefully Dave doesn’t shut that kind of programming style down for the future

[@laurentdoe1483]

All those points are absolutely valid and needed. As it is it’s way too predictable and it’s just a game or point management. The « unbroken rule » is an amazing way the competition more exciting to watch and more casual friendly. That being said I don’t want the games to become a reality TV show « survivor » like, there’s a very easy fix but we should be cautious about how far we can go with the wackiness.

[@TraiythLeffler]

Great video mate! Fully agree on these points

[@joshuaevilsizer]

Couldn't agree more!!! Great video! Please keep em coming.

[@gibalves85]

I couldn't agree with you more. I would love to see more of this. I hate it so much when athletes sometimes do snatch or cleans as singles when they could be doing touch and go

[@djones3291]

Babe wake up new mason vid dropped

[@kyucklebeans]

Great video! The WODs you used as examples were all some of my favorite workouts and moments in the Games, but I didn't think about them in the way you broke it down. Let's hope that Boz is watching! I think part of the problem is they reduced the amount of workouts that could be won with superior skill over fitness. Which means fewer fun "home runs" like Cody's breakout performance in the MU Biathlon

[@Bombsuitsandkilts]

another cool thing about elimination events at different stages is you have to be tactical about whether you go all in to make the cutoff but risk tiring yourself out for another event or if you try and skirt by but risk someone else sniping your position. A great format for something like this is an EMOM elimination, everyone does a lift every minute and they don't stop until there is one person remaining, while that person does win the event they also fry themself more than other people who just got a good enough score.

[@rogrdotnet]

Underrated channel. Great work!

[@rossbdb]

Great content, keep it coming !

[@booneyc]

good vid! also i was thinking a returning event. I already love the max lifts events. a 100m dash is always exciting even if you watch it over and over, maybe cf could have something similar to that. don't mean a sprint event, but something basic that's returning every cfg.

[@EllismoreCA]

Not to mention that most of these style workouts you mentioned have garnered the most views!

[@janusnordow]

You need some shoutouts or something. These videoes are so good. You deserve a much higher subscriber base and I really hope you get it soon! :)

[@donjuco242]

This is a great content. HQ should hire you for your inputs analysis and smack them with some realities. Also, It's awesome some big names are catching an eye on your channel

[@zavdon242]

Bro, Really good suggestions...subscribed

[@danveneski726]

Great ideas here.

[@Daniel-kb3mf]

this was a masterpiece.

[@Zeoilvia]

Your example with rope climbs is great. I remember Sara Sigmundsdottir failing legless rope climbs in her last semifinal over and over. That was so dramatic! Horrible for her, but exciting for the viewers.

[@simonshipway1964]

I liked the CrossFit Games with the finale 2 or 3 workouts with rest in between, they were fun to watch 👌

[@dzudiy8806]

Yes, back to back workouts are great and also make for a good show. Like when Newbury sold it on the AAB.

[@comradedyatlov712]

Make an event to see which athlete would be willing to submit to year-long testing to ensure they aren't on gear.

[@vinvinvichii]

The sport would disintegrate in an instant

[@nikolainavarro6558]

Almost 1000 subs!🎉

[@TheSteelTower]

Another entertaining video! Don't forget to make them at least 8 mins long, so when your channel eventually gets monetized, you get the mid-video ad placements 😉

[@masonstartup1410]

Thanks for the tip man! Ill keep that in mind.

[@CaioCRF17]

Well, this is it. Do everyone one of those.

[@kiffe22]

Something that I had thought about and that would fit towards your first point. Let's say you programm 10 Snatches at 225 in a longer metcon. Most, if not all would opt to do fast singles. But what if you say 10 Snatches@225 but the first rep of each set doesn't count? Do 2 touch and go reps and you get credit for one. Do 5 touch and go and you get 4. Do a single and fail the second? You get nowhere. The fastest way to finish is to do 11unbroken, but can you? You can also program something like 50 BMU in a similar style where the first 2 reps don't count. Maybe "Do 1 rep extra for every break" is an easier way to put this.

[@jater10]

Unbroken requirement - Good to have, but not on basic movements like a single under - which to most non CrossFitters is a basic use of a jumprope. It makes the sport look bad when the elite athletes are struggling on something most consider basic. It should be used on high skill movements - like muscle ups or handstand walk. CrossFit HQ needs to consider how to make the Games more watchable to the non-CrossFitter. It is after a huge marketing event for CrossFit and the affiliates. Maybe incorporate some tests that are simple but relatable to most gym-goers. Besides the 1 rep maxing, add in some max reps strict pullups, or even the NFL combine bench press test.

[@simonreilly213]

Weren’t there unbroken single unders and pistols at the game? These aren’t across the floor. That may have been at Rogue though, can’t remember.

[@benbodycombe]

What I think is more interesting is that the "Do or Die moments" haven't happened for the last couple of years. The formats have become quite monotonous and although the "duels" and elminiation style events are interesting, as a spectator it takes way too long to watch. The whole point of Crossfit is that these guys dont need the recovery time that everyone else does. My favourite example of this is Dubai's elimination event from last year. Bron and Ricky gamed it by going slower in the first couple of rounds to come out on top in the final because there was a much shorter rest overall. It made it significantly more dramatic and more engaging to watch as a spectator.

[@joaopedrojesus3297]

The elimination style is very entertaining for sure, but has a problem for the athletes, which is the amount of work that the last ones do. The best way is to be the final workout, since it won't impact other events, but if you have multiples of those during the week, you can have athletes with much more work done than others.

[@masonstartup1410]

I see what your saying, and this actually also applies amraps.

[@AnDre-fj5lb]

elimination style would be a problem because if the first wod is strenght focused, small athletes would be screwed, or viceversa if the first wod is more gymnastics, tall athletes would not make it. that's maybe why its divided by heats and not elimination also crossfit rewards the fittest athlete, not the smartest, so unbroken sets could reward smarter people

[@tonydecuba]

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[@masonstartup1410]

Thanks man! I do, my IG is @masonstartup

[@tonydecuba]

@@masonstartup1410 i just followed you

[@dirkijntema2920]

wasnt there an unbroken requirement for single-unders 2 years ago? or last year even?

[@kyled159]

Hit like button for HQ to take notice

[@fatvinet]

the good era of Crossfit Games is over...

[@ovenkloven]

ZEROOOOOOO

[@sacristar]

Athletes might not like this format because it's so damning. One hickup can screw you over big time. For entertainment value it will probably work really well. Though I do think the medium plays a big role. I didn't even watch the games when I did CF myself. But I thoroughly enjoyed some of the documentaries they did. They sucked you in, told a story, gave a glance both behind the scenes and on the stage. All the tedious bits were cut. And yeah, it followed the favourites around instead of the best. That's not very fair but that's life 🤷‍♂

[@derickvorster4873]

Stop giving an athlete continuous airtime for focusing on nothing but lifts year in and out. He deserves no attention

[@kaiwilliams141]

1000% disagree, unknown and unknowable, CrossFit words. Nah I'm kidding these all are fantastic ideas!

[@jefferson.notaro]

Elimination is fine, but forcing a "unbroken" and "penalties" doesn't seem right to me, I don't think it was fair what happened with Froning or Fikowisk, only one RMU, only 1-1.5 meters!!?? What makes it very interesting to watch is understanding the strategy that the athlete is doing, what we have seen with Froning on the rope and that is a lot of emotion... was to watch how they set up their strategy... if they force the unbroken there will be no strategy, That's it, we'll know what they have to do and how... it won't be funny.

[@jefferson.notaro]

The other seven who arrived after Froning was penalized were no fitter than him. Froning would need a 3-second recovery and he would do it... Fikowisk the same, or less, 2 seconds... and he would be able to finish the course. .. well, that's my thought... elimination tests that are not based on unbroken or penalties... would be very good

[@plank3000]

I disagree with the unbroken requirements, I wanted to watch fikowski compete, not some randos that had a good workout

[@masonstartup1410]

He did compete, he just mispaced. Thats part of competing.