CrossFit - "Efficiency Tips: Muscle-ups" with Chris Spealler

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@churkinese
@churkinese 11 жыл бұрын
Just a hot tip from Australia...My wife is a physiotherapist and crossfit has had a big boom in the last 2-3 years and because of the poor technique and silly shit like those momentum muscle ups on the bar we have seen her business boom a lot of patients coming in with shoulder problems !!! Thanks crosshit your making us rich !!! keep it up !!! dont do strict form get injured and pay for physio we fukkin LOVE U GUYS !!!
@MiguelAmurao
@MiguelAmurao 10 жыл бұрын
watching this for 14.4 today!! thanks, chris and matt!
@nodoginthehunt
@nodoginthehunt 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Coach Spealler and Coach Chan. You two would know, for sure.
@justjoshin2006
@justjoshin2006 12 жыл бұрын
Spealler is my role model! Do it for the little guys Chris!
@crossfitreclaim377
@crossfitreclaim377 5 жыл бұрын
Really like the tip Chris gave about the different style of pull during the MU. I'll use this with my Coaching tips. Thanks guys
@filthymcnastyazz
@filthymcnastyazz 12 жыл бұрын
good component part breakdowns. Good coaches always make it seem simple. Thanks for this guy.
@SamuelVaran
@SamuelVaran 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for learning me how to do ! =D
@navsquid32
@navsquid32 10 жыл бұрын
Trolls here are doing what trolls do best: type first, think never. If you were watching the video, you'll notice that Matt Chan can easily do strict muscle ups. So, why the kip? The kip is a kinetic chain movement that allows you to rapidly link together muscle ups so, in competition, when you have to do 20 or 30, you can finish before the next guy. If you think about it, which you haven't because you're a troll, it's sort of like trying to tune your suspension and your engine before you enter a NASCAR race so that your car can have the competitive edge. And yes, you must still pull with your muscles to do a kipping muscle up. Like I said, the kip merely preserves some momentum so that you can rapidly reposition your body for the next rep. If you think you can do a kipping muscle up without pulling with your back, please post a video of yourself attempting it so that I can watch you break your neck.
@alexjaramillo1636
@alexjaramillo1636 10 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows what their talking about on the Internet.
@sthenics
@sthenics 10 жыл бұрын
"The kip is a kinetic chain movement that allows you to rapidly link together muscle ups so, in competition..." Perhaps. But this does not explain why kipping is the norm outside of competition.
@navsquid32
@navsquid32 10 жыл бұрын
STHENICS It doesn't explain why kipping is the norm outside of competition. Nor is kipping the norm outside of competition. If by "outside of competition" you mean at a CrossFit gym, you're always "in a competition" with your personal best there. Kipping muscle ups ARE a gymnastics movement. Consult any gymnastics book as reference. Muscle ups are not a scored movement in the realm of gymnastics... it's simply a way to get from the bottom of the rings to the top. If a kipping muscle up isn't a muscle up, then sprinting isn't running.
@nate508
@nate508 6 жыл бұрын
That's why crossfit is retarded. You don't even have to use proper form for an exercise to be counted
@methdxman
@methdxman 5 жыл бұрын
@@nate508 Please post a video of you doing strict muscle ups, thanks.
@StephenBe
@StephenBe 11 жыл бұрын
It took 4 months of failed attempts and studying this video but today I finally got my first muscle up.
@islandboystooge
@islandboystooge 12 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I can do 15 strict pull-ups, but ONLY one muscle up. Now I know what I've been doing wrong LOL. I am going to give them a try again this weekend and see how I do by following these techniques.
@inillustrious
@inillustrious 12 жыл бұрын
I was able to do my first ring muscle ups not even a week and a half ago when doing 12.4. They were done utilizing the false-grip and a kip. I'm definitely eager to try them the way they're described in the video without the false-grip!
@h3Xh3Xh3X
@h3Xh3Xh3X 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I'm gonna start to pull higher and hopefully I'll get my first bar m-up soon!
@RadicalVideos
@RadicalVideos 11 жыл бұрын
This video was helpful. Someone just donated rings to my gym and I'm determined to knock out these muscle ups.
@BunnyPoopCereal
@BunnyPoopCereal 10 жыл бұрын
This is like a coach dream team right here.
@KeenanKelsey
@KeenanKelsey 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video I got my first ring muscle up while doing 12.4. I'm 6'2" 230lbs doing "no false grip" muscle ups. It's funny because I got bar muscle ups less than 30days ago.
@bradleycyr
@bradleycyr 10 жыл бұрын
(reply 1/3) Two factors: strength and the nature of Crossfit programming. First, you have to consider it as a progression to a strict muscle up because frankly, muscle ups are difficult. A strict muscle up is well out of the range of most people, especially when starting. It's the same principle with a kipping pull-up. When I started CF I could maybe do a 2-3 strict pull-ups but after a year of kipping as part of greater work-out regimen (which also saw massive gains on all lifting PRs)...
@ccetdany
@ccetdany 12 жыл бұрын
Whenever Chris explains something, I'm always like: "Ohhhhh I get it now..."
@WagyuMamaRanch
@WagyuMamaRanch 7 жыл бұрын
Funny to go back and see Bartow and Austin and them years ago. Young'ns
@a2thej2008
@a2thej2008 12 жыл бұрын
so the bar is harder to do MU on? and whats the point of the kip? just to make it easier? When i do muscle ups i try to use no momentum and strict form i can only do 6 like that, should i be trying to kip and get more reps?
@ASpec818
@ASpec818 6 жыл бұрын
I’m still trying to learn the kip. I can do 5 consecutive strict ring muscle ups but cannot figure out how to kip without a false grip.
@jousiff91
@jousiff91 8 жыл бұрын
i have a bar muscle up but never been able to get the ring muscle up!! the bar so much easier
@AhAhAchoo
@AhAhAchoo 11 жыл бұрын
I just find it a little odd that he said to wrap your thumb around the bar or else you'll slip. But as a former gymnast, I found that wrapping my thumb around the bar 1. cuts you up real nice in the skin between your thumb and pointer finger and 2. it doesn't allow you to rotate your hands as much on the bar.
@zaydeisalive
@zaydeisalive 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video
@ethanwmotley
@ethanwmotley 11 жыл бұрын
apparently you didn't watch the video. This is efficiency for those WODs that you have to complete multiple muscle ups per round. Kipping muscle up only come easy once you have the correct form down nearly perfectly and have enough strength to do a few strict muscle ups. and for the record Chris and Matt both did near strict muscle ups in this video. They are both just so damn strong for their size that they're pulling themselves up higher than what should be possible in performing strict ones.
@tallcip65
@tallcip65 12 жыл бұрын
@TheJamer88 He said he wanted to get stronger for the heavier weight events but still be able to dominate the body weight stuff. He is definately my pick to win the CF games in 2012.
@wisdometernal
@wisdometernal 12 жыл бұрын
FINALLY a REAL big guy with useful tip for MUs. I h8 when the "big man"is 6'4 but 160lbs in these vids...
@thearaban
@thearaban 12 жыл бұрын
i'm amazed with how their is always a way to make something more efficient. what next?
@vikingblood81
@vikingblood81 11 жыл бұрын
I think you'd be correct if referring to a beginner trying to do too much. But someone who has developed via progression, the abiltiy to do this, is probably going to be ok. One must ensure they are activating the corresponding muscle around the join in order to properly support it.
@MrBAllison360
@MrBAllison360 10 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the shoes Matt is wearning??? Can't find that exact style anywhere..
@spikesmw
@spikesmw 9 жыл бұрын
Those look like Nano 2.0s
@DodgyDeadlifts
@DodgyDeadlifts 11 жыл бұрын
O-o good stuff! Chris is getting beefy
@65bucksmedia
@65bucksmedia 10 жыл бұрын
I'm a part of the muscle up club... FINALLY! It's not as easy as they make it look (IMO).
@PokerDavidD
@PokerDavidD 11 жыл бұрын
Depends whether you are working out or competing. In competition you always seek the easiest way. When working out you want to work in the way that best develops the targeted muscle groups.
@00SILVERBACK
@00SILVERBACK 11 жыл бұрын
What about range of motion and strict muscle ups? Or are you just going for time?
@veselinvasilev9362
@veselinvasilev9362 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Scottyvetere
@Scottyvetere 11 жыл бұрын
A swinging muscle up in the gymnastics world is called a front uprise. That is basically what this video is showing.
@L0verm4n
@L0verm4n 11 жыл бұрын
The first muscle ups that he does, he does with pure strength no kipping at all. Thats hard man >.< Ok now you try do as many as he did in the video that way. Kipping may be easy-mode, but for beginners its ideal.
@MacGasco
@MacGasco 11 жыл бұрын
biggest tip: keep your head warm. Winter hat mandatory.
@eliwoood1
@eliwoood1 12 жыл бұрын
can they do this without swinging?
@gitoutmyi
@gitoutmyi 12 жыл бұрын
@chrapladm Those "push-away" MUs certainly look pretty similar to a up-rise or "one of its variations," agreed.
@bradleycyr
@bradleycyr 10 жыл бұрын
(reply 3/3) others. Due to nature of how it is programmed you will see circuits of 5 muscle ups in mix of maybe 5 rounds. Kipping allows you to complete these along with other lifts (oly or otherwise) and not blow out one portion of your body. Whether or not you "like" this type of regimen/workout is personal preference, but it's a reality for doing well and conserving strength. CF isn't strict oly or strict gymnastics. I've seen great results in my lifts and enjoy variance in workouts, so I CF.
@charles125
@charles125 11 жыл бұрын
LOL I'm using that one!
@bredsndwch
@bredsndwch 11 жыл бұрын
Can you provide some guidance via youtube as to a proper way to do muscled ups? I'm sure some of us would be greatful...
@_david1991
@_david1991 11 жыл бұрын
It took me one day to do a muscle up :D
@vardakis9817
@vardakis9817 4 жыл бұрын
Cuz you did it wrong dude
@vikingblood81
@vikingblood81 11 жыл бұрын
So, when an olympic weightlifter uses momentum to execute a jerk, instead of doing a strict press, is that cheating?
@binothirty2
@binothirty2 10 жыл бұрын
first thing he does in the video is a strict muscle up....cant understand where the hate is coming from.
@originalkra_
@originalkra_ 11 жыл бұрын
man his voice sounds just like Munky from Korn, like identical
@bradleycyr
@bradleycyr 10 жыл бұрын
(reply 2/3) ...I can now crank out a dozen strict. You use your body as an aid to get to strict, even though you would never do a strict in CF competition (reason in next point). Second, Crossfit programming is built on “constantly varied, high intensity, functional movement." (if you care to read more -- en.wikipedia. org/wiki/CrossFit). It's in essence circuit training with Olympic lifts and gymnastics. There is an element of competition built into it, for individual and against...
@ebenezerjsamuel2761
@ebenezerjsamuel2761 11 жыл бұрын
Line in this video that says it all: "I'm lazy. I try to do as little work as possible." Late in the vid. So essentially, these guys would rather use momentum to do the work instead of, ya know, the actual muscles...
@MrJNCOKing
@MrJNCOKing 10 жыл бұрын
got my first muscle ups yesterday. i bragged to my gf, my roommate and my mother. sadly mom got the first call
@griffithd05
@griffithd05 11 жыл бұрын
I'd go gay for Matt Chan. Dude is awesome.
@marcaukerman5056
@marcaukerman5056 11 жыл бұрын
except kipping pullups are alot harder than strict because your body is doing more overall work and its much more intense. (by using head to toe muscles to create the kip)
@BTMS09
@BTMS09 12 жыл бұрын
@wisdometernal who's 6'4 160?
@shanemanrulz
@shanemanrulz 11 жыл бұрын
Add more of a kip so you don't have to rely on the arm overy thing as much, then take the kip away gradually.
@alexcsont4285
@alexcsont4285 10 жыл бұрын
LOL, this is hilarious
@spencerswims2009
@spencerswims2009 11 жыл бұрын
lol i can do a one arm chin as well. 50 dips is beast idk if i can even do that. work on explosive pullups, doesnt matter if u swing n shit just get as high as u can, do sets of 1. then start on top of the bar and come down as slow as u can. soon u will be able to do them. also remember u wont look even close to the videos, u will plop your chest on the bar when first learning
@eddierey220
@eddierey220 12 жыл бұрын
dammn i saw a lot of elite athletes in there
@Jaibee27
@Jaibee27 11 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, well that guy in your link is superhuman. Thanks for showing me what is possible. Are you able to do them?
@fireboy1996
@fireboy1996 4 жыл бұрын
Now how did I guess before the video that those muscle-ups were going to be absolute dogshit when they were performed by Chris Spealler and Crossfit? I must be psychic!
@MCWon212
@MCWon212 12 жыл бұрын
I never tried it on the ring but I know I can do it
@chrapladm
@chrapladm 12 жыл бұрын
I thought it was not accepted to swing your feet like that for a MU to count such as 12.4? I dont know but am trying to learn everything I can on my own. I cant afford the local gym so I have to rely on videos and me asking questions. But yes again thanks for the videos.
@spencerswims2009
@spencerswims2009 11 жыл бұрын
lol i can do it dead hang no swing on the rings and bar very slowly. gotta learn that false grip and l-sit
@crsimonsen
@crsimonsen 10 жыл бұрын
If only people knew the difference between fast twitch and slow twitch they would understand the purpose of the two variations of muscle ups.
@vikingblood81
@vikingblood81 11 жыл бұрын
For those who say momentum/kipping is cheating...where does that momentum stem from? You. It doesn't just appear. True, it is not optimal for developing muscle mass, but for doing more work faster (force x distance), this is the way to go.
@nett103
@nett103 11 жыл бұрын
Every time I see a crossfit workout I just wonder how painful their joints will be in the future.
@aligboyakasha
@aligboyakasha 11 жыл бұрын
his name is on the racks - holy poop
@boigasdeepinpoon
@boigasdeepinpoon 11 жыл бұрын
you realize he does strict muscle ups at the beginning, right
@SurfingAlien12
@SurfingAlien12 11 жыл бұрын
Kip the dip!
@kollpakontot1788
@kollpakontot1788 4 жыл бұрын
Just a tip, zoom out the camera, can´t see what he is doing on the rings.
@TheJamer88
@TheJamer88 12 жыл бұрын
wow, speal got big
@Jaibee27
@Jaibee27 11 жыл бұрын
my friend can do it slow motion without swing but he can't do it without false grip. Notice in the video they only swing with normal grip.
@f4phantom2500
@f4phantom2500 11 жыл бұрын
yeah dude you need to use false grip to go slow so that your palms are already on top of the rings/bar. the dude in the video says slow false grip muscle ups can't be done on a bar...which is totally incorrect. it's harder than a kipping bar muscle up, of course, but very possible.
@wisdometernal
@wisdometernal 12 жыл бұрын
@BTMS09 It was just an example of the size of athlete that usually gets called a "big guy" in demo vids, which is annoying because I'm a REAL big guy like the one in this video. Clearly over six foot & clearly two hundred lbs +.
@spencerswims2009
@spencerswims2009 11 жыл бұрын
the pull up bar says speal on it lol
@gitoutmyi
@gitoutmyi 12 жыл бұрын
@chrapladm In fact, it almost looks identical to this "no rep" example - kzbin.info/www/bejne/on6tiqmbqbh7rM0#t=3m10s
@xfitmichaud
@xfitmichaud 12 жыл бұрын
@chrapladm here to help
@juliolui7517
@juliolui7517 11 жыл бұрын
spealler is the shit
@Trollolol22
@Trollolol22 11 жыл бұрын
yea thats a stupid comment. let me explain. with those lifts, clean snatch jerk, they are using their strength and explosiveness to create the momentum to move weights from a stationary spot. That goes the same for doing a non kip muscle up. you use your own bodys explosiveness and strength to create momentum and move your stationary body up to get you to the dip position. Unlike these Kipping muscle ups where you body is already moving when you go into the pullup position. no explosion/strength
@Kanashto
@Kanashto 11 жыл бұрын
basically kip everything :p
@beastmode3333
@beastmode3333 11 жыл бұрын
ive never seen a muscle up done so easily...
@pantloaded
@pantloaded 11 жыл бұрын
it should, benching 405 takes much more work.
@chrapladm
@chrapladm 12 жыл бұрын
Yah I thought it was considered an uprise?
@pafke2211
@pafke2211 10 жыл бұрын
Muscles activity in Crossfit muscle up: 0
@navsquid32
@navsquid32 10 жыл бұрын
Show us how it's done.
@tyuy6985
@tyuy6985 6 жыл бұрын
Try to do one like that see if you can
@ninjaskilledmyfather
@ninjaskilledmyfather 11 жыл бұрын
"cancels out conditioning movement" +No it doesn't, it proves it. The kip is more efficient (requires less energy to perform same work), so it allows you to do more work before reaching muscle failure. Thus, it allows you to stress your conditioning systems rather than just your strength systems. Please define "overall strength." If the only aspect of fitness you want to develop is strength, that's fine, just realize that's what you're doing.
@pantloaded
@pantloaded 11 жыл бұрын
also just looks like hell on your shoulders.
@moverton2556
@moverton2556 12 жыл бұрын
oah i get it now! just gotta kip my way through every exercise and i will be able to do it!
@SilverGrizzly
@SilverGrizzly 11 жыл бұрын
Little kids do this kind of stuff all the time.
@troybrown2489
@troybrown2489 11 жыл бұрын
a lot of people see as cheating though because in training you use these methods. Its just so much easier to do these than strict movement. example: pull ups with momentum you can do a lot more than if it is strict movement (normal) pull up. cbf explaining properly but its cheating yourself in training. i understand if its in a competition though
@hyunjunlee9472
@hyunjunlee9472 9 жыл бұрын
Kip king lol
@Trollolol22
@Trollolol22 11 жыл бұрын
kipping ring muscle ups are easier than kipping bar muscle ups, no kip ring up are harder than no kip bar ups. you heard the "easier" from someone who is telling you to kip
@JTNORTON06
@JTNORTON06 11 жыл бұрын
That's because neither of those guys are me, and if you read my description, it clearly states why it's pixelated. How do I know your video is of you? I don't, close your trap now.
@DreamteamTA
@DreamteamTA 11 жыл бұрын
gynmastics focus on form and ways to improve it because that is how you are judged whereas crossfit is way too lenient on form and that is where all injuries stem from.
@erhajj
@erhajj 11 жыл бұрын
I am not impressed by the kipping pull ups or the kipping muscle ups. I would say using a kip or any sort of momentum would be a good learning tool to get the movement down but one is not really doing muscle ups until they can do it without a significant kip. And aside from cranking out a volume of reps for competition, why do the kipping muscle ups (aside from learning the move)?
@churkinese
@churkinese 11 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to tell you its a youtube comment not a fucking university essay.
@ethanwmotley
@ethanwmotley 11 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to go ahead and assume that you've never done either.
@Kanashto
@Kanashto 11 жыл бұрын
you can do anything with a swing, there are videos of people doing it slow with a normal grip. see /watch?v=QuHz5mGEH1w
@shanemanrulz
@shanemanrulz 11 жыл бұрын
Wanna kip anymore cross fit?
@vikingblood81
@vikingblood81 11 жыл бұрын
please cite your source. not saying you're wrong, but you should provide some evidence. Thank you sir.
@mbosedc
@mbosedc 12 жыл бұрын
I'm always amazed how much more efficient these people get at destroying your shoulders, put more stress on the gleno-humeral ligaments, the anterior capsule of the shoulder and the rotator cuff by causing shoulder impingement. And all these poor people who don't have a clue about anatomy or biomechanics follow them like little puppies. BTW, these coaches have no clue about biomechanics either. Good luck to all of you in few years when you start experiencing all these problems. Cont...
@joshgeer5235
@joshgeer5235 11 жыл бұрын
thing is i've gained enough strength from practicing strict muscle ups that I could do them faster then you with your kip involved, the kip was created for gymnasts to use low output energy. so that cancels out conditioning movement theory. now i get the saving energy part, all I was saying is a dislike the kip and what it does, and I just think you would be an overall stronger cross-fitter provided you did proper muscle ups
@shanemanrulz
@shanemanrulz 11 жыл бұрын
Bro more triCEPS.
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