Crumbley's lawyer shares messages between shooter, parents

The lawyer for Ethan Crumbley, the Oxford High School shooter, shared messages between Crumbley and his parents.

[@wnemtv5]

More details: www.wnem.com/2023/07/27/oxford-school-shooters-fate-hands-judge-court-thursday/

[@nancyporvaznik3847]

Thank you for this update. I was wondering why the videos stopped on August 1. Now I know that the hearing is suspended until the 18th.

[@marylou4720]

No excuse for what he ended up doing, but these parents definitely need to be convicted for their part in neglecting him!

[@kimberlycampbell8355]

Are you really that stupid to think that the parents should've known that their son was capable of doing something like this? If these parents are found guilty, then every parent in this country should be held accountable for the crimes that their kids commit!

[@patti6178]

@@kimberlycampbell8355 neglect is abuse and they should be held accountable regardless of what he did

[@kimberlycampbell8355]

@@patti6178 How did they neglect him? By buying him a gun? Give me a break! You people have no fucking clue what neglect is!

[@desired4558]

Yes, he was attempting to reach out for help! He is stating that weird things are happening to him and he is scared. He says it could be his delusions! Severely neglected imo, even his older brother said he had been worried about him. If anytime parents are partially responsible, it would be in this case. He seems remorseful, upset in this hearing. At least that is a start! These cases are just heartbreaking all around. Many prayers for the victims, their families and all teachers and students involved. 💙🙏💙

[@kimberlycampbell8355]

@@desired4558 I bet no one talked about the parents putting him into counseling, right? He was going to counseling for over 2 years! If the parent's neglected him, then so did the school! The school didn't even express the seriousness to the parents and allowed him to stay in school. A teacher even handed Ethan his backpack 30 minutes before the shooting! So, if the parents are facing charges so should the principle of the school along with his teacher!

[@ShrinkRai]

He was like fuggin TEN YEARS OLD during these texts 😢 these parents SUCK

[@taraellis4345]

That’s what I thought! 2016?? I can’t imagine leaving my 10 yr old home alone at night.

[@ShrinkRai]

@@Human4Peace him going from begging his mama to come home to hallucinations just broke my heart. This child wanted from his mom what the assistant principal had to give 🥺

[@Linda-jj1sj]

He needed help!! Pitiful parents!

[@silversmoke6]

​@@Rtgvshdywtf is wrong with you?

[@ellybean5868]

These parents not only ignored him, laughed at him, but bought him a gun and then emptied their accounts and tried to flee the area after the shooting to deal with the ramifications himself

[@ExoticTipz]

Wow !! Thank you for this information , because I didn’t hear about it ..

[@gregmccarter2176]

I believe the parents were trying to buy time..let things cool a bit..waiting for attorneys..I might have done the same...of course I wouldn't have guns near a demented child

[@silversmoke6]

​@@gregmccarter2176 that would be a stupid thing to do. All it does is make you look like you are trying to escape consequences, and no attorney would ever advise it.

[@eclecticdom]

I wish they would have stated that Ethan was only 9 or 10 when he was begging his mom to come home before 11 when she never responded. she put her desire to celebrate before her kid and expected a 9 year old to "understand"?

[@RDnAC]

Scary. If they would have gotten him psychiatric help instead of buying him a gun this story could be a lot different.

[@alliechotikul1621]

i genuinely believe they gave it to him intending for him to use it on himself. i by no means condone ethan’s actions, but his parents neglected him to the point where he broke. teenagers don’t know what they’re doing, they’re only entering life. maybe ethan can turn his life around, maybe not, only time will tell. but his parents, having gone through life and through what ethan is going through in terms of growing up, are almost entirely responsible for giving him a gun and not getting him the help they knew he needed.

[@tjordanlcsw]

His parents were grossly negligent. He must be in agony listening to his desperate pleas for his mom.

[@georgieeve2026]

That kid needed compassion, time, love and support 😢 Not 2 parents who ignored him, left him alone, laughed about him behind his back, dismissed his hallucinations, dismissed his physical pains, bought him a gun to feel safe at home instead of actually being there with him to protect him. Ontop of that they both prioritised him working at a kitchen job ontop of going to school while he was feeling unwell. The video of him collapsing at work, along with these messages, is so sad.

[@elfritts9895]

And certainly not buy him a cordless after birth abortion machine!

[@beepboop5038]

The parents deserve more time than the shooter

[@elaineisabelle427]

Wow, what a piece of work his parents were, very selfish, the kid wanted and was crying out for attention,. I feel for him with parents like that.

[@lovepet4565]

They neglected him for their own affairs, drugs, drink, and horses Giving him a gun ?

[@lauradrinkwine7673]

Seriously…..wtf…..what was going ON with these parents?

[@lovepet4565]

@@lauradrinkwine7673 they were just putting themselves first And low rent on top So zero class or focus on education or mental health Or anything normal

[@Linda-jj1sj]

He was begging his mom to come home. Sad

[@keeper6458]

​@@Linda-jj1sjVery

[@haleynicole7333]

Wow. His parents sure played a role in his decline during developmental stages. He needed his parents and his cries for attention and love fell on deaf ears. It becomes a lot more clear why this happened when you understand his home life and neglect. Regardless, it shouldn’t have happened and my heart goes out to the victims and their families. I have compassion for this young man too. His parents were selfish and didn’t give their child what he desperately needed. I can’t imagine having a child and being so selfish.

[@Human4Peace]

Well said. Hugs to the families.

[@AICEMarineScience]

Hearing him call her mommy…. And she ignores him!! That makes me sick. Maternal and paternal isolation. But he was constantly needing his mom, she showed him no care or concern. His actions are inexcusable but I can see where his long term neglect made him want to hurt baby animals and young children as even the baby birds got more love and attention than he did. In his manifesto he mentioned he didn’t want to kill teachers or adults. Just kids. He seems envious and jealous and hated that they received goodness from their parents and he didn’t. His parents ruined him and the school administrators dropped the ball on their chance to intervene. I continually believe his parents deserve worse than him. They have already done him so wrong and hurt him for his lifetime. I’m a high school teacher and school shootings are my biggest fear, I NEVER empathize with school shooters (I think the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooter should have gotten the death penalty) but Ethan was raised in isolation, parental selfishness and neglect.

[@jaysonphillips-if2rk]

The government is using hypnosis,psychological harassment team,gaseous drugs called non lethal chemical weapons,injected nerve agents with with fumes that activate the injections. A govt agency is blackmailing people with Voice Dialogue hypnosis,harassment tactics while thier victims are being drugged.The Shooter did what any normal American would do,he is being set up by a CIA/Law Enforcement agency.Its the govt.

[@HelloItsYou]

He shouldve used the gun on himself instead.

[@jaysonphillips-if2rk]

​@@HelloItsYou The govt is using a psychological harassment team(Lynch Mob,they are drugging thier victims,and bullying them with harassment,they use hypnosis,vioice dialogue hypnosis to make threats of painful death,sticking people in tubes/pipes with thier Lynch Mob.The gaseous drugs are being fumed on these people,they are farming these people ,and forcing them to work for the CIA/Lynch Mob ,if they dont submit,they drive them crazy with haluciangenic drugs and harassment.Its called Gangstalkingmand its real,the Police even know about it,the Police cant stand up to these people for some reason,Its illegal but these aholes are Above The Law in America.

[@stageluvr91]

How horrible that he’s begging for his mom to come home and she ignores him. Their lack of care clearly was part of the reason for his tragedy. So sad for all involved.

[@surgicaltechcrafter2169]

Wow. Was your child murdered that day? It is CLEAR those parents NEGLETED their parental responsibilities which contributed to Ethans actions. I HOPE AND PRAY they are FOUND GUILTY! Maybe parents like them will think twice about the lack of parental responsibilities.

[@kathleenowen5755]

Totally agree

[@4thegood927]

That argument only holds water if he killed his parents (not innocent children)

[@kimberlycampbell8355]

Maybe every parent should be held accountable for what their kids do! Just maybe these little gang bangers will stop killing other people if the parents were to be held accountable!

[@surgicaltechcrafter2169]

@@kimberlycampbell8355 Agreed

[@kimberlycampbell8355]

@@bav192 It is heartbreaking, but at what point should the school be held accountable? You just can't charge the parents over sometrhing that their child has done! This will set the precedent to go after every parent in America for joining a gang, or for stealing from a store! So, you better pray that your child doesn't break the law or you'll find yourself behind bars!

[@tabithabrown16]

This little boy screamed for help...and they give him a weapon...😢😢😢 i cant understand some parents....i admit i thought this was all on Ethan but now i truely believe his parents hold some responsibility.

[@indiragandhi6445]

You only have one child! One! And can't even nurture him properly?? Dont have child if you cant be a parent! Parents, our children didn't ask us to be borne..we did it! Let's take full responsibility to our action!

[@caterinawilliams998]

Completely agree.

[@Nurturing2]

2:42 As a parent this is heartbreaking to hear. This is a child expressing he is frightened and needs his mommy!!! This is neglect. Her actions state her needs are important and his are not. Abuse takes a toll on a child. A lifetime of neglect results in hostility. To think that did not have an impact on the situation would be naive. The greatest determining factor in a child’s success is his or her support system (family of origin, extended family, friends, community, and school). We need to step up as a society to nurture our children and stop ignoring their mental health. Too many parents allow their own ego to take precedence over their children’s health and well-being. What we are witnessing is negligence. We must ensure our children feel loved and make their mental health a priority. In doing so, we can start the process of breaking this cycle and healing our communities. Sending each of you love, light, peace, and healing. 🙏💫😇✨🩵🌟

[@keeper6458]

I agree with you 💯

[@Nurturing2]

@@keeper6458 Thank you❣️

[@AICEMarineScience]

Hearing him call her mommy…. And she ignores him!! That makes me sick. Maternal and paternal isolation. But he was constantly needing his mom, she showed him no care or concern. His actions are inexcusable but I can see where his long term neglect made him want to hurt baby animals and young children as even the baby birds got more love and attention than he did. In his manifesto he mentioned he didn’t want to kill teachers or adults. Just kids. He seems envious and jealous and hated that they received goodness from their parents and he didn’t. His parents ruined him and the school administrators dropped the ball on their chance to intervene. I continually believe his parents deserve worse than him. They have already done him so wrong and hurt him for his lifetime. I’m a high school teacher and school shootings are my biggest fear, I NEVER empathize with school shooters (I think the Marjory Stoneman Douglas shooter should have gotten the death penalty) but Ethan was raised in isolation, parental selfishness and neglect. I agree with you

[@Nurturing2]

@@AICEMarineScience Agree 💯!!!

[@shimmer8289]

Listening to Ethan plead with his mother to return home and then devolve into auditory and vidusl hallucinations is so sad. This was not a grown man at the time. His parents knew his distress but left his texts unanswered. They very much contributed to what Ethan did that day. Personally I think Ethan was suffering from mental illness that impaired his judgement. I realize ppl are fed up with school shootings and want his to pay. I'd say place his parents there for life. They neglected that young teen.

[@rjkool2007]

My thoughts exactly.. He was reaching out for help and he was ignored by the people he trusted the most..

[@tinab3627]

Excuses. Sit down

[@juliadobosz545]

There will never be a good excuse for what he did.

[@Oj_tropicanna]

⁠​⁠@@tinab3627 Not an excuse just the reality. Sit down

[@lisasmith4296]

He needs emotional recovery not life in jail

[@lorielizabethwade7505]

His parents better get some time in prison!

[@elizabethannegrey6285]

This is frightening - I am NOT excusing his actions, but certainly his parent’s neglect of his emotional wellbeing MUST be a factor. Maybe they can all go to jail and finally spend time together.

[@lindaoheff9169]

The parents are thankfully in jail right now!

[@AK19909]

Parents are facing 4 counts of involuntary manslaughter as accessories to their sons first degree murder case

[@teaburg]

What do parents buy for a kid who is 'weird and depressed'?

[@gfx2943]

Apparently a Sig Sauer 9mm.

[@2Ryled]

And then say my greatest fear is that he would un alive himself. I think that was what they were hoping. Bc why would u buy him a gun then?

[@teaburg]

@@2Ryled they quickly deserted him following his attack

[@Sunnybeach7]

​@@2RyledI also think that's what they were hoping. I hope this kid gets the help he desperately needs and never got.

[@LadyLondonDDG]

So basically they left him home alone with a cell phone as a babysitter...as an adult who is still 'afraid of the dark' & being in the house by myself I can only imagine the fear in a 10 y.o.!

[@Leigh3420]

And gave him all the electronics he wanted, TV’s and guns as a babysitter.

[@kikilola2954]

Parents were neglectful 100%. This kid had mental health issues and clearly they knew that and thought it was a good idea to get him a. gun. So infuriating, that being said it doesn't excuse what he did and he needs to suffer the consequences as the victim's families will for the rest of their lives because of his choices and actions. So incredibly sad all the way around

[@Valentinegal]

This kid was so mentally sick and suffered from such neglect.. parents gave him gun and ammo probably hoping he’d kill himself so he wouldn’t be a burden to them anymore. But instead he did the unthinkable. He cried out for yrs for help and was totally ignored. I feel sorry for him and so saddened that he thought this was the only way he’d get help by doing something so awful.. and the truth is.. he actually is getting the help and attention now. Such a sad situation. Glad his awful parents won’t be able to hurt him anymore.

[@beepboop97]

I have experienced emotional abandonment as well, I never realized until i got much older that at a young age i was solely responsible for my emotions and if i wanted comfort i either had to do it myself or leave my house and go to another family members. I wasnt abused or hungry and i had it "good" as a kid. But i cannot describe how that has affected me in adulthood personally, and in relationships with others. I would cry myself to sleep, and my parents were in the next room... i was 12 and just lost my father to suicide.

[@susiepummill9391]

that is very hard on a young child. I hope that your adult life is better. I had a similar upbringing.

[@ForTheLoveOfMike]

He was pleading for his Mom to care 💔

[@keeper6458]

It's heartbreaking

[@4thegood927]

@@keeper6458no what’s heartbreaking is the 4 innocents he killed. If he killed himself that would be heartbreaking. If he killed his parents it would be more understandable.

[@numberone5680]

Now, we know why the parents are more involved in this horrific shooting.

[@keeper6458]

Exactly

[@GeneralLeia]

His parents should get as much time as he does. Just despicable.

[@Marce44ful]

The system and his parents completely failed this boy! It should never have come to this!

[@thatcanadianchick7589]

He just wanted to be loved and noticed by his mom and she failed him, but doing what he did was cruel to his classmates. He was hurting so bad by his failed parents he wanted EVERYONE to hurt.

[@missspell4897]

Holy crap he literally asked for a gun like he wanted new headphones. And then she bought it for him

[@YouRemindMeOfTheBabe.]

"Correct...correct...correct...correct..." That's the most in-depth testimony I've ever heard.

[@TheMzzchaos]

Omg... I'm crying for 10 yr old Ethan. What absolute HORRIBLE parents!!

[@carolinemichelle238]

He should still be held liable for his actions, but his parents need to be held liable too for their blatant negligence.

[@lilymiller3522]

As a mother I could never ignore texts like that. As a youngster my son struggled with separation anxiety that he never outgrew as a toddler , and it broke my heart . His mother is NEGLECTFUL , he needed HELP !!!! medical , psychiatric and parental. They ignored him LITERALLY BEGGING HIS MOM FOR HELP !!!!! IMO !! Parents deserve PRISON Ethan deserves PSYCHIATRIC CARE & REHABILITATION !!

[@Hayday.1979]

Ok, I know this is a super serious case? But is this camera system from 1984??

[@kellystanley5892]

What horrible abusive neglectfull people! They need to spend the rest of there lives in prison being neglected as they did to him.What a sad case.It is there fault too that he shot up a school and killed and hurt so many.prayers to all involved .

[@jessicablevins601]

The messages mention how the laundry was flying off the shelves and how it only happens when he's alone. Also about being scared and thinking there were people in the house. So he's obviously having some serious mental issues! Yet, instead of getting help for a child who is obviously hallucinating or having delusions.... his parents buy him a gun?!? This is so much more than just neglect and not getting him help, it's actively contributing to something very bad happening! I'm glad they're facing charges.

[@nicholasfredro6217]

The mother bought a gun and ammo for a psychologically disturbed kid..If she isn't also charged then something smells real bad..What kind of mentality does it take to be so irresponsible.? Unbelievable.

[@illegallyblonde232]

Lock his parents up and get him help.

[@ShaunNugent-bp6hl]

She calls her kid weird and not normal and buys him a gun!? Put them under the jail!

[@sandraprotopapas6408]

Heartbreaking.💔

[@surgicaltechcrafter2169]

To me Ethan was crying out for his parents attention. I think he had to come up with things to get them home.

[@Miamilifestyle1]

Mom gave him a GUN so she could carry on her affair with no neurotic texts all day. Parenting is hard. But if u don’t put in the time with your child, this is a result HE NEEDED HIS PARENTS . Especially if the child has problems like this one. CHARGE them all but allow rehabilitation for him in 25 years

[@Dspalten]

If you did not hear the testimony regarding his cruel and sadistic torture of baby birds and him stated how he wanted to do the same to innocent babies and young children. He is not rehabilitative.

[@traceonthecase]

​@@Dspaltenyou're right. I heard this first and made a similar comment. Then I heard that. They created a monster. There's no rehabilitation. Yes it's sad but others have to be protected. I have to find and change my comment.

[@MortgageGirl7]

This breaks my heart! 😢what awful parents. This makes me sick to my stomach. He just died inside. I wonder what he is thinking listening to all of these. Why did they have a child?

[@Unmaredebaci]

Cluless parents this could have been avoided with care and action. So tragic if you see an introverted child who is withdrawn why would you give him synthetic drugs and a gun!?

[@cocosurgerow]

It’s easier and straighten up. Where is grandma ? Grandpa ?

[@randyholland6828]

The man that shot President Reagan dead like 20 years in a mental rehab this is where this kid belongs not prison he tried to reach out for help to his parents and didn't receive it I think in this case the prosecutor out of get off the prison convict him to a mental institution for 20-years rehabilitate him kid that made a very bad mistake his parents ignored the fact that he needed help the school tried to get his parents to take him to seek help that day and they left him in the school

[@cheyennealexander9642]

This kid is deeply disturbed. He can't be rehabilitated. Does mental health play a role? Maybe. However several doctors evaluated him and found him competent. He suffers from depression and is also a psychopath.

[@laurengrudus5924]

what do you do when you’ve already taken the responsibility of asking for help? he was ignored several times. he needs psychiatric lockdown his parents need the jail time.

[@dilafng]

“LOL. You have to learn not to get caught,” his mother texted. And this was after he called his gun “his god.” (I’m not convinced this was a typo.). Unreal. Here’s hoping his parents get exactly what they deserve

[@traceonthecase]

It was G U Y, not God. The cop thought he mean gun not guy

[@suecopening1514]

It's cases like this that demonstrate a need for much better mental health services AND facilities that are separate from prison for people like this boy. He has to be incarcerated for his actions... but prison is not going to help him or protect others from him (he will be a danger to staff and other prisoners). We need facilities for people that are found criminally guilty but so affected by their mental health that they need custodial mental health services. Not coddling... but intense care and treatment. Facilities with the right professionals could either help people like him... or sort out the psychopaths that are incapable of meaningful change. Those people can be forwarded to prison for their sentences.

[@rachaelpate6778]

Yes what he did was terribly wrong & he was very manipulative. This video proves child abuse comes in many forms & it’s damage is far reaching.

[@blackwidor]

Heartbreaking

[@mangos2888]

This is really hard and heartbreaking to listen to. Ethan didn't stand a chance. 😭

[@plumberguy1689]

Was this recorded on a vhs camcorder? Asking for a friend

[@janessap1739]

This entire situation is tragic… For all involved. Ethan‘s parents completely failed him, & I truly hope they burden and shoulder that guilt for the rest of their lives. I swear to God, I believe in people’s rights 💯, but I truly think that there should be some screening process for people to procreate… Some people just should never be allowed to have children!! Ethan was crying out for love, care, & attention that he never got from his POS parents, and now that he has all of this attention, you could see his remorse, and you could see that now he wishes he had never gotten it. But the grief the parents of the kids who are gone, is prob of no comparison. But it does make one wonder how culpable parent should be when one has parents like Ethan does. He tried so damn hard to win their love, it’s very sad. Makes me want to see what his life could have been if he would’ve been raised with different parents. And now he’ll never get a chance to do anything with his life…But neither will those other kids. Like I said, just completely tragic 😢

[@chicago1779]

Who doesn’t reply to their kid who is in obvious distress!! They are crap parents

[@willow1141]

This poor kid needed help and his parents neglected him. All of this could’ve been avoided and none of these poor children would’ve lost their lives at his parents did the right thing and got him to write help. He has been calling out for help for a long time. They need to go to jail for the rest of their lives

[@willow1141]

Quality is so bad looks like room full of alien’s lol

[@traceonthecase]

OMG! Unbelievably tragic. Some kids get neglected because parents are out there working hard to try and support them but this lady was just out having fun hanging out with her horse. Wow! Some people should never have kids

[@shellyscott5103]

This is really heart breaking.

[@Booboofuzzbucket]

This is heartbreaking……

[@carolinemichelle238]

This video footage looks like it’s from the 90s

[@ScoobyDoozy]

I’ve always wondered if they bought him a gun in the secret hopes he would take his own life & relieve them of their burden of being ‘parents’.

[@sn-uk3sc]

I've thought that too. 😢

[@anaynierlpag]

It comes across like they’re gossiping about their own child behind his back and it feels all kinds of icky

[@crazydiz2009]

They should never have bought that Ouija Board

[@boucherjane9424]

Parents failed him he schould have been sent home no questions asked where i live his locker backpack and dismessed from school prooerty they dropped the ball too! his parents should have suggested themselves to take him home! they were so wrapped up in their own lives and being in his condition should NEVER been bought a gun even for his own safety as well as their own! they should have got him help not a gun! Then they run....fail him again they get lawyers and none for him! I believe he needs to be punished for his actions but this time it could have been prevented! I hope he gets some help in jail and his parents pay a price themselves!

[@SpiritualDivine]

RIP Justin :( You were so brave..you remained calm and probably knew before the trigger was even pulled that you were going to go home. I cannot believe what this poor young man, and anyone else that passed away that day's, parents felt. I am praying for everyone. I am so scared to send my kid to school every day in America..and I'm a gun owner! Something needs to change!!!! Protect our KIDS!

[@Leigh3420]

How that whole bathroom testimony went down with him and Keagan is heart wrenching 💔💔💔

[@publiccharge3847]

Just made me sad I wish he had a stuffed animal at least. He was so alone.

[@4jewel8]

😢

[@ivanvillamil2764]

My goodness just by listening to the texts messages can tell what kind of parents they are.

[@ectocool]

Damn that’s tough it’s terrible what he ended up doing but this didn’t help

[@rebeccamay3076]

Jen and James sound like teenagers not parents or adults.

[@chrissyellem7397]

What kind of texts are these? This should have been a conversation not texting. What piss poor parents. And the Dude part is really grating.

[@kamalalove6083]

This is like a play by play of how to raise an extremely troubled child. Nauseating.

[@revelgirl1742]

SHAME ON HIS PARENTS FOR THEIR NEGLECT. They deserve to be in prison.

[@Caketime2]

Why do we need someone to say correct?

[@Lala33-3]

This is so sad.

[@janineruffo7460]

Do they really need so many cops in the courtroom? Ridiculous!!!

[@mklolcoru4840]

Yep. You don't know how many people want to tear that kid in half. But I agree with you they should have no cops in that room because I want to see that monsters head on a spike.

[@Karatandstone]

These parents deserve the worst possible.

[@singatshoncube3308]

His parents let him down big time, he felt lonely and neglected, l dont condone what he did, the parents shld be charged to they contributed maybe he was trying to get their attention as parents, so going to celebrate was more important than their child, and they bought him a gun, obviously he had some issues maybe they shld hve sought medical help early.😳😳😳😳

[@wandamartinez1561]

Boy that woman sitting next to other attorney looks worried are stressed, the way she is fidgety and drinking! 😮

[@lindarobart3369]

I actually feel sorry for this kid, he just wanted his parents to be there . They deserve to be locked up.

[@lilyflower6511]

Wow both his parents seem very narcissistic

[@shannondbrown1552]

This is my first time hearing about the messages he sent to his mom about coming home. I do believe he was terribly ignored, they bought him things to keep him occupied and out of their way. That doesn’t put way the recordings of him and his diary entries wanting to be known as the best school shooter, refusing to comitt suicide afterward because he wanted to be around to see the damage he done. He planned this out, had a fantasy of what he wanted and did it, that isn’t mental illness.

[@redrose41000]

Why won’t the attorney just let the witness read? This is painful to listen to the way they’re doing it.

[@gfx2943]

I really hope his parents go to jail. They absolutely deserve it.

[@ToyotaTom04]

Dude was begging for help from his parents. He got nothing. The more I hear about he he was neglected the more I think he shouldn't get life.

[@juliafleming7538]

How old was Ethan in Oct 2015? How was CPS not notified of his being left alone so much?

[@michellenainkristinabusch1221]

CPS is a joke.

[@holmesrealestateteam8327]

Hearing this was awful.

[@MS-vi8gg]

let us all take this as a lesson what not to do to raise a mass shooter.

[@daniellereid6539]

I was a helicopter mom so the thought of leaving my kid alone at home is unimaginable. He would have been little. The mother seemed concerned when she was texting her husband. Any time before that she neglected him. Where was his father when he was alone and scared? I'm not sure if it's nature vs nurture when it comes to psychopathy but apparently it's treatable in children. I don't think it is. Most serial killers though came from abusive homes. Maybe that's what flips the switch. He tortured animals and went on to murder people. He enjoyed it and had no empathy. That's a psychopath.

[@cherylheacock3335]

Ethan deserves a retrial..period..the Judge did not listen to the Psychologists that stated he could be rehabbed and let out someday..with proper care and discipline he might be a good citizen..give him a chance! He was still a child in an awful home with neglectful parents! James Crumbley's ex girlfriend or wife that has his other child said he was an awful father to their son and despised Jennifer!

[@jinkyscooby1973]

He needs to go to a mental facility for a very long time and his parents need to be put in jail for life without parole. They failed their child and neglected his mental issues.

[@anaynierlpag]

“Is he still being weird and depressed?” Jesus.

[@hollykane4000]

This is sad all the way around

[@stageluvr91]

So the school knew he was looking at ammunition stuff AT SCHOOL??

[@catharineduplessis5273]

So sad that he has begged his mom to come home. Her then, young child, needed her. She ignored his needs. This child has felt abandoned and let us not forget how he was bullied. By who? Some of the deceased?

[@beepboop97]

Let not blame the victims they were also children...

[@Sunnybeach7]

​@xopixelprincess but you feel OK blaming the other child right? I see you've never been bullied.. lucky you.

[@revelgirl1742]

He was acting out for their attention and they IGNORED IT ALL.

[@mrobertsbeck]

Those parents are awful

[@donnasorisho3208]

Wow! Good Parents😳

[@deltawoolery1669]

Not condoning his actions. He should pay. However, his parents are monsters!! The child was suffering for years!! Mental and emotional abuse!! Wickedness. They should serve a lot of time in jail. Dammit!!