Ethan Crumbley Hearing | Psychiatrist Testifies

Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Lisa Anacker evaluates Ethan Crumbley during her testimony in a Miller Hearing. On September 29, the judge will decide whether the convicted high school shooter who killed four students at a Michigan school will have a chance at parole.
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[@averageamericangirl6819]

Thank you!!! Mentally illness is not the answer to every sick thing a person does.

[@KG_614]

🎯 So tired of mental illness being the go to excuse nowadays.

[@sandib4234]

@@KG_614 Me to!

[@lindabradford9591]

​@@KG_614me also!

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

@@KG_614 can we ban the use of those words?

[@tomgriffiths3239]

@@KG_614It’s does not excuse, but it is a reason why it happened. Until the mental health crisis gets worse, more things like this will continue to happen. It is completely ignorant for us to ignore the childhood traumas and history of criminals, as many of them develop mental health health issues because of this.

[@pauline_raabe]

Torturing and killing small animals is the relief of anger and hate. Obviously it didn't release his inner pain. Then took it out on his fellow students.

[@chillmaster3502]

Most killers are not mentally ill but rather sane believe it or not

[@andrebailey6676]

Wrong

[@le_th_]

They usually have a personality disorder and, more specifically, a Cluster B personality disorder. In the case of this kid, he's a sociopath because of the emotional neglect he endured from both of his addict parents, who also both have underlying characterological disorders. Note: personality disorders is the term in psychology, and in psychiatry, they are called characterological disorders read: disorders of moral character. They are one and the same, just different terms for different disciplines.

[@andrebailey6676]

@@le_th_ agree

[@GenZMother]

@@andrebailey6676no you’re wrong.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

obviously you dont know what metal illness is. you can be mentally ill and still be sane.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Yeah, sure someone who must torture animals to calm down isn’t mentally ill. He shouldn’t get away with the crime, but a kid his age doing all this sick crap ain’t normal. He needs help, he can’t be let out to destroy again, but he definitely should have been in a facility.

[@Dr_KAP]

She is not suggesting he doesn’t need help or that he isn’t mentally ill. As she said, the legal definitions are different to the psychiatric criteria. He doesn’t fit the criteria for psychosis. He is capable of planned action and strategic decision making.

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

its more normal than you think.

[@teambeining]

It’s a red flag for psychosis and future sociopathy.

[@WyattRyeSway]

Yet the psychiatrist hired by Crumbleys lawyers testified he had major depressive disorder and psychosis. Each psychiatrist had different views. This “expert” was rather obnoxious and curt in some of her replies. Wonder if she has narcissistic disorder? 🤔. Though honestly, the statute is the statute. Wonder if this woman is a professional prosecution expert.

[@lildebboston455]

This is pretty simple. He murdered 4 human beings. He knew exactly what he was doing. Stop flipping everything on mental illness. His previous behavior shows what he likes to do. Death Penalty would fit him nicely if not Life with no possibility of Parole.

[@robinmiller5256]

Would Ethan have even had a gun if the mom didn’t get him one? I see Ethan’s actions as a form of revenge towards his parents who seem to not have given him the love and guidance Ethan needed thru his life.

[@deborah3912]

@@robinmiller5256 then why didn't he kill his parents?

[@momof4kids735]

The issue is many people think sociopathy is automatically a mental illness and a person cannot control themselves. This young man was not in psychosis but is definitely a sociopath and had options that he knew were available to him that did not include murder. He chose murder

[@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole]

He can't get either. First of all Michigan doesn't even have the death penalty. Second, it was declared unconstitutional to give minors life without parole by the Supreme Court many years ago.

[@boosqueezy2418]

100%

[@lisas8244]

Ethan is now receiving the attention he craved from his despicable parents and never received.

[@CapsFan]

I know the defense attorney is just trying to do her job, but come on… everyone knows someone committing a crime doesn’t equate to them being psychotic 100% of the time. Some people are all the way there and are just crappy people. This kid is an example.

[@tomgriffiths3239]

This is such an uneducated comment…

[@Lulubelle0517]

@@tomgriffiths3239extremely uneducated!

[@flex0.00]

Committing murder does not equivelate to mental illness. Well said

[@andrebailey6676]

Wrong

[@flex0.00]

@@andrebailey6676 Chris Watts is not mentally ill.

[@river8760]

@@andrebailey6676it actually doesn’t. You can murder someone and not have a mental illness.

[@msannthrope1863]

We have virtually no medical, mental or emotional support in this GRAND pillar of virtue we call America but we’re quick to condemn anyone who needs help and didn’t get it because we’re assholes about that stuff. KUDOS!!! Who won?

[@ashleywilcoxfotfmod]

Mentally ill does not equal psychotic. Mental illness can be anything from depression to antisocial personality disorder. You can have a mental illness and know right vs wrong (criteria for criminally insane). Yes his actions can be indicative of mental illness but that doesn’t mean it’s an excuse.

[@Jar0fOlives]

i’m not giving the perpetrator any kind of sympathy. but this kid is sick in the head. more than i think anyone wants to admit. his parents are the biggest to blame, and i meant what i said.

[@misshoneychurch8153]

I agree.

[@notmyself611]

He they find him 100% legally sane he won’t get the help he needs and they can send him to adult prison for the rest of his life. Just another broken child thrown away. I blame the parents too.

[@earth0128]

He was always capable of this, his parents did nothing to stop it. Just as guilty in my book.

[@savetrump9120]

How did he get the gun? From the parents? If the parents didn't give him a gun he would have stolen one and still done the same thing.

[@combatepistemologist8382]

He may be crazy but he knew what he was doing was wrong. Therefore he is legally sane.

[@tamicyrusOUproud]

It's NOT FUNNY ANYMORE...when all of the sudden someone is mentally ill!!! In this case his mother should be serving whatever the the judge sentences him too!!!!

[@inesplain8870]

Both mother and father.

[@hereweare2031]

If only he'd had a father in the home. I guarantee none of this would have ever happened

[@MrTruthseeker1776]

Gotta love the level of passive aggressiveness in this questioning

[@Ad-Lo]

Right?! It’s so unprofessional!

[@combatepistemologist8382]

Not uncommon for a defense lawyer cross-examining a witness when they have no way to rebut her testimony.

[@eddybrock227]

Sadistic sociopath, not insane

[@boosqueezy2418]

yep. absolutely.

[@divinetiming8422]

The boy was hallucinating far before shooting and his Mother knew, yet never got him mental health help. The parents were well aware of him hallucinating, among other issues. The school was supposed to call a 5150 not send him back to class. The Mother was self medicating him w/xanax. Smh

[@robinmiller5256]

I hope the parents are never let out as I see them as accessories to this murder…mom got Ethan the gun, encouraged him to use it, and never took responsibility for that action alone. Ethan’s dad doesn’t even seem to know his son…😳

[@STCatchMeTRACjRo]

yet his hallucination has nothing to do with the murder. also he rationally and logically asked some questions during his internet search, calculated the money he needed, asked the consequences he could get. that shows. he committed the crimes with a sane mentality. even if he has insanity periods, those occurred outside and not related to his commission of crimes.

[@juliadixon8465]

Xanax is what allowed EC to bypass any reservations he may have had about murder. Most ppl can override such impulses, but benzos basically killed his internal self censoring mechanisms.

[@josephthomas32]

It sounds like this lady is attacking the other woman on the stand

[@mikeh2129]

You have really poor interpretation skills if you interpret what was said as attacking

[@KRey112]

Some people are just evil.

[@phat-kid]

yeah, like this kid's mom

[@anglomik]

Anacker is unbelievably incorrect about torturing animals not being a symptom of mental illness.

[@river8760]

She’s explaining that she assessed him as not being psychotic nor does he fit into an exact diagnosis, from what I can understand here.

[@river8760]

I’m not saying I agree either!

[@Ad-Lo]

And this is from your qualification as… ?

[@savetrump9120]

Mental illness can be fixed with a pill for some people. There is no pill that can fix what he did.

[@ccragan7837]

Mental Illness May “explain” the crime, but in NO WAY excuses the action!

[@kittyroxs]

So if you have 2 patients with similar problems that negates both reports? What absurd logic. That lawyer just sounds stupid.

[@andrebailey6676]

Wrong

[@rosesmith6925]

I love her explanation, very on point.

[@ryanseibert485]

she’s my neighbor!

[@rosesmith6925]

@@ryanseibert485, that's so cool! She's very straight and to the point, explained it so perfectly.

[@buttercups616d]

​@@ryanseibert485can you give me the address

[@l.a.connection9759]

He had that boy kneel on his knees and executed him in the back of the head and he wants mercy GTFO 😡

[@S_8-]

That defense is not only weak and annoying but brings nothing to psychiatric evaluation. And why does she needs to be that rude ??!!

[@JamieJennLittle]

She is fighting for him and advocating for him, something no one else ever seemed to do. I hate rudeness but in this case I'm thankful for it. Ethan finally gets to see someone will try to help him.

[@leekrizka4073]

I wish the death penalty existed in Michigan…………

[@lildebboston455]

Me 2. It should be nationwide.

[@GirlfromFinland]

Sounds very healthy society to execute kids. Sometimes it’s hard to understand the minds of ignorant Americans.

[@Littleangel_-jp4xb]

even if it did, minors cannot get a death penalty sentence

[@josephjohnson3738]

That psychiatrist is mentally ill !!! Sheesh, her practice/career, must be to get paid to find and testify in court about excuses for psychopathic murderers.

[@frankvqz3799]

Yeah right. After they commit their crimes they all suddenly become mentally I’ll 🤔😏😒

[@sunnydelight5255]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌

[@inesplain8870]

There was evidence stemming back for a year or so, this wasn’t all of a sudden. Or were you not paying attention to the dates of his journal or text messages. Evidence of how his parents ignored and neglected his mental health needs. You’re just as worse as his parents.

[@gmimi2]

​@@inesplain8870👏👏👏👏👏

[@catH727]

No but it does indicate a psychopath. Animal killing is a gateway to being a psychopathic killer.

[@williamjktkd]

if I was a judge and I heard this, my jaw would be dropped to the floor...

[@sheshekirby3742]

Look At That Smirk On His Face!!!

[@gmimi2]

OMG stop 🙄🤦

[@sheshekirby3742]

@@gmimi2 Bissshhh U STOP

[@gmimi2]

@@sheshekirby3742 lol 😂 wow, you must have a lot of class. I bet you're sooo loved!!

[@sheshekirby3742]

@@gmimi2 You Must Be A School Shooter I Will Report That

[@lee3171]

that psychiatrist really handled that well

[@ryanseibert485]

she’s my next door neighbor!

[@jej_0027]

Mother bought him a weapon then took him to practice target shooting,,,she knew what she was doing. Especially after herself saying to her coworkers he was 'weird' , she knew he had tendencies to hurt others. Never thought she'd be considered an 'accomplice '. Hid parents failed their son & society.

[@hereweare2031]

The gun was in his dad's name

[@jej_0027]

@hereweare2031 yes it was but was bought for his son. He himself said he gave dad $ to huy it for him .

[@hereweare2031]

Yeah I know. I believe James had attempted to hide it from Ethan in an unlocked amour cabinet in his bedroom. But Ethan found it and took it to school

[@wraynephew6838]

@@hereweare2031 what is the point in his father buying him a gun just to go hide it.

[@loralie6400]

Just because they bought him a gun doesn’t mean it was just handed it right to him and let him go. My son was into competition skeet shooting and I bought him a gun… then it was locked up and it was his to use at the competitions. Plus they had other guns in the house, he didn’t need to wait for his own personal gun to do what he did.

[@wmdkitty]

Where did this psychiatrist get her degree? She's spouting complete bull.

[@gmimi2]

Where did you get your psychiatrist degree?

[@sleuththewild]

This young man begged and begged and begged for help from his parents. All the techniques he'd used weren't enough to help him. He's a child. And that psychologist wants to sit there and avow that Ethan had plenty of options other than what he did? When no one is listening, what were his other options? This psychologist is in the land of the absurd. She's basically saying exactly what his father told him-"Suck it up and get over it"-and holding him accountable when he didn't.

[@heidipiette4537]

Thank you

[@wraynephew6838]

for some reason people ignored how Ethan begged for help.

[@cvrow1]

It’s worrying that you can’t think of even one other option. Just saying.

[@JamieJennLittle]

Thank you, you're exactly right

[@soniatorres5227]

I hope his parents stay locked up. The day of the shooting at school they told the principal they couldn’t take him that day and left him there to kill. Plus purchased that gun for him

[@jenniferweber8260]

He may not fit the description of a mental illness, but he is not okay mentally. His parents never gave him a chance.

[@river8760]

The psychiatrist’s voice is so irritating 😫 Interesting how reactive she is too, big red flag for a psychiatrist!

[@baneblanca]

There is no such thing as an expert in mental health.there all in need of mental need themselves.

[@Debthouse]

This psychiatrist should testify at every trial that tries to scapegoat mental health to take responsibility off the defendant.

[@asmrmess]

The only difference is where these people are being locked up. He obviously needs to be medicated and needs help. He was asking for a therapist and his parents bought him a gun instead... at 15. Knowing he was depressed.

[@Debthouse]

@@asmrmess I completely agree that he definitely requires some type of professional psychiatric intervention that results in a treatment plan. That being said, based on all the evidence in all of the court proceedings and other details that have been published publicly, I believe there was definitely some comorbidity of psychiatric issues beyond clinical depression. The enthusiasm with which he declares he is going to be a school shooter (multiple times) is not typically the type of disposition you would see in a depressed individual. The affinity to this suggests aspects of narcissism (for the notoriety as he is using terms like "school shooter," which is typically a term that the media would use) and anti-social tendencies (from the complete disregard for human life - or animal life based on the evidence of the dead bird collection in his room). All that said, this is all casual speculation as an outsider. I have not performed any official psychiatric screening or examinations therefore I would refrain from offering any confirmed diagnosis. But again, I agree with you that depression was definitely part of the equation here.

[@planes3333]

That psychologist who called him a feral child earlier was a joke

[@WyattRyeSway]

The prosecutions psychiatric expert said he was fine. The defense psychiatric expert said he had major depressive disorder and psychosis. It was dueling psychologists. Both cancelled each other out. Their opinions often firm up to which ever side is paying for them to testify.

[@reichmuth100]

Mom saw and new all the red flags and she couldn't be bothered by her sons illness But , I'll bet if he was a horse he'd have gotten help 5150. Unbelievable!

[@grablehernandez1165]

Lock him up and throw the keys away

[@earth0128]

Agreed, no chances should be taken on him being in society. The parents need their liberty taken long term also.

[@mosaicmind88]

If Kim Kardashian was a psychiatrist. Insufferable.

[@Lulubelle0517]

This shrink was walked in there with her opinion and obviously there for the prosecutor. It doesn’t take a psychology degree to understand the fact that a mentally stable person has no desire to take a life. Good grief!

[@lightfountain]

Why can't PROFESSIONALS answer a yes and no question without feeling their job is threatened..they do go on and on.. To us, layfolk..just sounds like they need to feel more important.. wanting their answers to be soooooo meaningful.. It misses that mark for me..just answer the dang question like you UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

[@cfawcett9870]

Maybe it's because when a lawyer asks a yes or no question during cross they know there's a whole lot more to the answer than just one word

[@timquitzau1510]

Hate when lawyers are on fishing trips. Does not make them seem creditable at all

[@andrebailey6676]

Wrong

[@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole]

I don't get the text they have on the side. He cannot be given life without parole due to the Supreme Court. It's quite literally not possible. He can get life, but it must be with parole since he was under the age of 18.

[@anelram7935]

Minors can be sentenced to life without parole, the judge makes that decision. Their age is just taken into consideration.

[@earth0128]

The writing was on the wall way before this tragedy. The parents were negligent and should lose their liberty long term. One day (Ethan) will be grown and must be kept out of society. No second chances in my book.

[@xochilguevara3429]

Both these people are very intelligent and good at what they do.

[@WarriorWomanWaWo]

Mental illness and hateful, wicked, anti-social behaviours are NOT always synonymous

[@sheshekirby3742]

He Knew Exactly What He Was Doing!!! He Is FAKING!! PERIODTT!! LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE!!! SIMPLE!!!

[@asmrmess]

He knew what he was doing but he's not faking anything. He was asking for help and attention before this happened. Parents said no to a therapist, left the kid alone a lot, he was caught on camera fainting while working and hitting his head, the school told parents he had issues. What they did - got him a gun. If it was a therapist and not a gun, the story might've ended differently. He needs to be locked up but he needs help as well. And parents need to learn from this example. If a kid is asking for help - take it seriously.

[@unapologeticallyauthentic]

Am i hearing this differently than everyone else in the 1st 2 minutes?

[@deloresboudreaux2755]

He looks “ mentally unstable.”

[@gmimi2]

Perhaps you do as well 🤷

[@phat-kid]

this kid had a terrible home life. his parents are just as guilty, or imo, even more guilty, than him. when you're a kid and your parents are terrible people, there's nothing you can do about it, you're trapped, you develop complex ptsd, which is lifelong and never goes away. i'm not excusing him at all, but i do feel for him.

[@gmimi2]

Thank you, I feel the same.

[@JamieJennLittle]

Thank you for saying this, I agree with you.I feel like Ethan just continues to be failed by everyone around him. Even now I feel like he needs help not extreme punishment.

[@surpriseimblack]

You see when you bring a psychiatrist on the games stop. Then you quit playing all these games with these psychologists. I'm so tired of these billions and billions of psychologist. People don't even realize that psychologist aren't even doctors.. they don't know they don't know anything about the brain or any of the interrelated organs. They are not neurologist nor do they know how to confer with neurologists !!! .

[@404errorcodeV]

i dont think hes crazy. he knows what hes mad at and who he is mad at. and if he wouldve been listened to he probably wouldnt of done what he did.

[@le_th_]

Personality disorders are NOT mental illness...they are characterological disorders, as in character disorders: a disorder of MORAL character. Personality disorders are the underlying cause of most... ...murder ...violent and non-violent crime ...financial crime and fraud ...rape ...pedophilia, child molestation, and child predation ...stalking ...spree shooting ...serial killing ...cult leadership ...human trafficking ...drug trafficking ...animal torture ...sexual sadism ...everyday sadism ...child abuse ...child neglect ...child exploitation ...identity theft, embezzlement, art forgery All of the above are the behavioral choices of personality-disordered individuals, and *far more rarely* those with true mental illness (i.e. paranoid schizophrenia, psychopathic schizophrenia, bipolar disorder-mania, etc.). ...and then you have meth addicts who...from what I'm told...are capable of damn near anything, no matter how absolutely heinous or unthinkable the crime might be, including severe animal torture (like the sick meth-addict guy in Houston who cut off the legs of several puppies then took them into the vet).

[@rosiew777]

Bullshit

[@rosiew777]

Do your research clown 🤡

[@asmrmess]

By personality disorders you mean?... Borderline disorder? I hope you don't mean autism or ADHD? People often confuse these with narcissistic personality disorders and that is so wrong.

[@ashleywilcoxfotfmod]

Killing animals is one of the criteria for people that end up being serial killers…

[@gemmarwen]

I'm from Barcelona, Spain and in my country there is only one mental illness state where you cannot be charged and go to court. It's when is proofed that the person was in a psychotic attack in the moment the crime was committed and this person couldn't distinguish what was real and what was not. Only once it happened in my country when a woman killed their little children becase she thought Devil was possessing them or something like that. The point is that with police cameras you could clearly see her just right after the crime and she was absolutely in another reality, hiden "from Devil" in a big trash can totally naked. She was brought straight to the hospital and spend several months there until detectives could talk to her. I remember psychiatrists explaining that a psychotic attack lasts days or weeks. So it means that you cannot jus say as a defense that you didn't know what were you doing at the moment because if you're mental unapacitated isn't a matter of a moment but is a matter of days and weeks that you're in another planet. I don't know how it works in USA but I guess must be the same.

[@timosbornisapedo1902]

This is called phoning it in

[@user-ts3lh2fs1j]

I get it,

[@LordNightHowler]

Ethan's parents love too much. The mom was telling him not to get caught like she was in on it.

[@lestercombs1871]

He’s not dead yet?????

[@JeanneDecklar]

WTF?

[@bbypink9844]

Mental illness really does not equate to violence or evil… I think people really need to spend time in a psych ward to see what mental illness is. There’s a HUGE difference between being “crazy” and being mentally ill. Yes the mentally ill can be dangerous, BUT not everyone who commits a huge violent act is mentally ill. I am a psychiatric nurse, and what this psychiatrist is saying is COMPLETELY true. It’s hard to understand, but blaming all of this on mental illness is really counterproductive. I didn’t understand this until I worked in psych. These are behavioral issues, and behavior is a CHOSEN act… the fault is all in him, not an illness he had no control over. Yes life can suck, but that gives no one an excuse to pick up a gun and kill others. The importance is picking up on the warning signs and not ignoring it… putting them in therapy and keeping them on a watch list… or something along those lines. I don’t have the answers, but meds wouldn’t have helped his CHOICE to pursue violence.

[@lycanhd]

LIFE, NO PAOLE.

[@MaaThaRainbowGoddess]

For goodness sakes....lock that boy AND his parents up & throw away the key already! Mental illness MY ASS!🤬

[@combatepistemologist8382]

The psychiatrist uses boilerplate. So do lawyers. So what?

[@erikaxchristine]

Just lock him up. So sick of this bs! They know what they are doing and can’t stop.

[@lisaeveretts8082]

He should serve 24 life sentences.

[@notmyself611]

I don’t like her. She is talking passed the question and seem argumentative.

[@asmrmess]

Agreed. Defensive for no reason. Is her job on the line here? 😄

[@planes3333]

This is such a good person to have on the stand. Notice that he is able to sit there nice and calm now.

[@aaronrenaud6261]

He needs a mustache

[@ShyFly1000]

Excellent witness!!! I’d hire her.

[@tn2717]

I think this Dr was amazing. Lay person vz forensic expert.

[@TampaBMan]

Bam 💥 She’s a rockstar ⭐️

[@milesstyles7428]

The problem is guns!! Like there ain't enough, like if american had like 5 guns then it would be like safer..

[@gmimi2]

What?!? Your comment doesn't make sense.

[@deborahkizer4664]

Yes it does stop lying lady. I'm just saying😢

[@savetrump9120]

Let me guess. His mind is messed up. Too bad his hands were working good enough to fire a gun.

[@melody9241]

Omg

[@ElectricAngel181]

Omg 😢He tortured animals 😢 Evil 😈 as can be .Animals are defenseless

[@jillionairess]

I bet he's been taking ADHD meds most of his life. Someone should do a study on the long-term effects of these drugs. It might explain a lot of the ills in our society.

[@kittyroxs]

Wow you sound like an idiot who knows nothing about adhd meds.

[@hereweare2031]

As far as I know he's only been on three different meds since last October. His parents wouldn't take him to the doctor. He didn't have health insurance.

[@asmrmess]

It depends on the dosage? ADHD meds can be life-changing for so many. So he has ADHD? I didn't see that anywhere. If he has it and wasn't medicated for it then it's a big issue. 50% of those with ADHD also have autism and it's easier to develop more mental illnesses over time. Especially if not diagnosed and treated. And I mean therapy not just meds. Meds help, but therapy is crucial.

[@SherrieAllcorn]

This kid is insane plain it well for months even got parents to trust him right down to tea his mind made up year before this he going to do it

[@janetjohnson7279]

😵‍💫😬😵‍💫😬

[@MC-nd5mc]

The shrink needs to be locked away!

[@inesplain8870]

She’s worse than his parents. All of the evidence that points to mental illness. Him being mentally ill doesn’t mean he deserves a slap on the wrist, just provides understanding as to why something like this happens. Hope she isn’t getting paid to say him along with others aren’t mentally ill, especially with the evidence of mental illness. She basically says, he could have continued to kill animals when he felt the urge to kill. 🤔🤔 girlllllllllllll what tf?! As though the uncontrollable urge to kill isn’t mental illness. I feel like we will see her being charged for lying in these cases in the future.

[@hereweare2031]

Lol he should of went for a rabied racoon

[@asmrmess]

She speaks of killing animals as a coping mechanism. And it was his coping mechanism. But it wasn't working, so he went on to kill humans. No mental illness, nothing to see here. 😂

[@daveh640]

Love ❤ the doctor on the stand. This lawyer represents a man that enjoys killing animals and humans. These types of people can NOT change and need to be put away and brought in a box.

[@judithsarazin7110]

Who is MC ?!

[@alisha.007]

who the heck is MC

[@greg9497]

This psychiatrist is pretty darn condescending.

[@Owenhlre]

I mean..the way she explained the killing of animals..yeh im sorry i think thats just another way of saying..he is a killer

[@WarriorWomanWaWo]

Even IF we believed Ethan was "mentally ill" at the time of the murders (which most of us don't); the standard for mental illness to where it would negate cognitive and physical awareness, hence diminish his responsibility, is that he would have to have a DISEASED MIND, resulting in psychotic behaviours that do NOT only show up in criminal behaviour, but that has a notable history outside of criminal behaviour. In other words, that can not be used as an insanity defense. Many before Ethan have tried and failed to use psychosis and "mental illness" as an aggravating factor in their defense strategy, for the same reasons.

[@sheryllbeaty1752]

The US spends the highest amount in video games than any other country And The US has the highest amount of school shootings at 288 Boys doing most of the school shootings they also tend to play the most violent video games Boys are diagnosed with more ADHD then girls

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

This is MKUltra yet again , another vulnerable teen mind controlled and triggered.

[@teambeining]

This witness is very biased, shown by not answering the questions and adding her own opinion to what that question was aiming at. She also misstated psychosis - she stated that treatment is required to stop being psychotic. In reality, people drift in and out of psychosis episodes. If I was prosecution, I wouldn’t use her - she’s very harsh, verbally combative during cross, and clearly biased. You need someone calm and steady, strong on their professional opinion.

[@Lulubelle0517]

I agree! They should use a neutral and more professional witness, not one that has an opinion before even walking into the courtroom.

[@Numb217]

@@Lulubelle0517Their job is to study the individual and come to a determination before testifying. Of course they have an opinion before they go to Court. It literally is their job.

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the inmates are going to eat him alive , I feel sorry for his parents