C.S. Lewis - Priestesses in the Church

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[@CSLewisessays]

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[@truthbetold2354]

The outer temple is gone and now we are the Temple...deciples making deciples. Their are no priest anymore and no building other than our bodies.

[@navienslavement]

Such a shame the Church of England didn't get the message

[@xrisc131]

I am amazed at my own ignorance. This logic is so clear that only an educated person can miss it.

[@NikkiSchumacherOfficial]

Such a shame most churches didn’t get the message.

[@philiphumphrey1548]

CS Lewis was right and prophetic - what has happened to the C of E since 1992 amply demonstrates that. Churches have emptied and schisms have developed. Practically the only Anglican churches that are growing are the breakaway GAFCOM ones that hold to traditional beliefs and values. And the CofE's synod's latest ruling on same sex "blessings" will only accelerate that process.

[@sennest]

May we all hear and understand! 🙏🙏

[@MLTDPT]

Wow. Just wow. So absolutely right.

[@toramasatakezo2929]

I wonder how he would feel about the church of England now

[@RockSmithStudio]

He would’ve left it and found another church. The Church of England’s positions do not reflect the Scripture

[@RebaKennedy]

Thank you so much for sharing CS Lewis here on KZbin!!!

[@dartharpy9404]

Thanks

[@Durnyful]

So could it be that that the winds of culture hold sway these days...

[@enchantingamerica2100]

Great resource. Good work with this channel!

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

it's funny that he mentions abolishing priests rather than bringing in priestesses (he of course advising against it) when I would be for it. As far as I recall, the only priests mentioned in the NT outside of the Jewish priesthood is Christ the high priest and the general priesthood of all believers. But perhaps this is a wrangling over mere semantics.

[@GoldberryIsland]

I believe humility is the greatest achievement in the economy of Yeshua's Kingdom, and so we would be wise to wait on the Lord and follow after him rather than taking our place at the head of the table. Women have their place and it is honorable, as it is. Only we don't honor it. We want to compete with men as if we were horses and gain the finish line. But the race is not for Christ.

[@knightrider585]

If he were alive today would Lewis be a Catholic or an Orthodox?

[@hippopilot6750]

Considering the directions the world has turned since his time and the state of both Anglicans and Vatican, hopefully Orthodox but with his biases from his time, still a chance he becomes only a 'tradcath'.

[@CSLewisessays]

I think he would be Orthodox. During his life, Orthodox and Anglicans were extremely close, with serious discussion of reunion.

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

Lewis had serious problems with a couple points of RC doctrine that he didn't talk about publicly because he didn't want to cause division. Unless those doctrines changed, I don't see him ever going Catholic.

[@knightrider585]

@@Wraiths_and_Wreckage Like the papacy?

[@Gwoog55]

@@CSLewisessayscould be. He may have also gravitated toward the theologically conservative Anglican provinces like that apart of GAFCON.

[@rideforever]

Nuns are already the "female priests" and many Saints achieved great miracles thereby. Of the congregation a woman who wants more attends Mass more frequently, once a day, and receives more through the host and become more. At home a woman who wants more has more children. In society a woman who wants more becomes a nurse or teacher or weaver or whatever. All who want shall received, and participate in the life. Unless what you want is a lie, that begins in malevolence conceit and deception, that you know very well. In which case there is also a place for you, and perhaps it has a meaning also, but it is in the cafes of town and not in the church. And so everyone can indeed have what they want and not interfere with others.

[@cdoerner224]

They're deaconesses

[@GoldberryIsland]

The wickedness of Catholicism is as Babel. I wouldn't lift up up Baal though he come as an angel of light in golden vestments.

[@mavisemberson8737]

Kindly provide proof. :-) That is just an opinion IMHO though widespread among older Protestants @@GoldberryIsland

[@Harlequin619]

Is a woman allowed to baptize a man?

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

it's so funny, i just read a quote from him in a letter earlier today "There is no doubt that laymen, and women, can baptise."

[@Harlequin619]

@@Wraiths_and_Wreckage if true it was an answer I needed. I thank you.

[@truthreigns7]

Is this man saying women can be preachers and hold authority in the church?

[@CSLewisessays]

No

[@truthreigns7]

@@CSLewisessays good. because i did think he was a wise man but that worried me.

[@elizabethl6187]

If you imagine a continuum from teaching, preaching, and prophesying, you will have to understand the nature of each activity very well to identify precisely which things are given to both men and women, and which are given exclusively to [hopefully, anointed] men. What is preaching? Some people think of a Sunday sermon exclusively in terms of teaching scripture. For some, it includes exhortation, rebuke, and encouragement. You would probably find it highly profitable to study for yourself, even if you couldn’t find an exact blueprint from scripture.

[@witherow777]

I actually believe he was saying something of the sort, but you’ve convoluted two very different things:Spiritual authority on the one hand, and teaching in the other. But they are not synonymous. Spiritual authority & headship, while teaching can be absolutely essential to this, does not imply that it also must be the other way around. Women certainly teach. Our mothers teach. Deacons & presumably Deaconesses teach. Think of in Scripture in the NT as men & women prophesy: declare truth on behalf of God. This is fact. But neither does this make someone who declares truth a priest or pastor. At least one of Lewis’ points is that if we are willing to concede on the template that God ordained in the OT, and continued in the NT, then the same rationale may be used to the whole thing. This is precisely what I’ve seen doctrinally in the United Church of Canada as well as progressive churches. Whenever the established orthopraxy becomes uncomfortable alongside someone holding modern cultural values, there are many of these well intentioned Christians that will forsake Scripture rather than the present cultural ethic. This is what not just the Church is dealing with now, but also Western society. When we throw off the ‘shackles’ of God’s revelation and standard, what we embrace is anarchy and arrogance.

[@marianne5391]

No.

[@aosidh]

Here you go, CS, equality of the sexes: "there is neither man nor woman..." Don't feel bad, that's an easy one to forget 🙄

[@Tobi_237]

It depends on YOUR concept of ‘equality’. That passage in Galatians doesn’t teach that a man is EQUAL to a woman or vice versa [that’s just absurd], but rather that IN CHRIST JESUS [this is the Key], we ARE all One. Our differences still exist, but our corporate faith IN Christ Jesus unites us all One; we are all sons [male and female] like the One Son, heirs [again, male and female] like the One Righteous Heir, and by One Spirit in One universal Body of Christ - the Church. It’s in THAT sense we are all One, and NOT according to the post-modernistic/leftist definition of equality; as if the distinctions between the sexes simply don’t exist, which is again, just nonsense and thus false.

[@skepticalcentral8795]

​@@Tobi_237 If we want to talk about false nonsense, most of Clive Staples Lewis' books will have to be added to the list.

[@Tobi_237]

@@skepticalcentral8795 Okay? Thanks for the opinion, I disagree of course🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mavisemberson8737]

Kindly give your reasons so we can estimate for ourselves otherwise it is simply an opinion. @@skepticalcentral8795

[@mavisemberson8737]

@@skepticalcentral8795 Explain! Don't just assert your opinions without backing them. BUT you can just write IMHO. 'in my humble opinion' and keep the discussion sensible.