Cub Cadet 2X Snowblower Won't Start Won't Stay Running Surges Full Repair IntelliPOWER Engine 243cc

[@trentrockport]

Thank you! You saved me a $250 bill and schlepping this snow blower halfway across the city! Girlfriend thinks you sound like Tom Hanks

[@IndRepair]

Glad to help! I don't hear it but hear that from people quite a bit. Thanks for watching!

[@289kford]

I have this Cub, my son has one and 2 of my neighbors have it. They all have the same issue, which is they start but will not idle without the choke. They pop and surge off idle. Mine and my son’s are only 2 years old. I’ve fixed 3 of them by cleaning the pilot jet without removing the carb. If you remove that silver bracket the pilot jet can be removed. I posted a short picture clip on here last year showing how. I should go your route this spring and do the complete carb. Non ethanol fuel is not easy to find around here, so we use regular and stabilizer. We don’t fill them and don’t run them out. My son and I run ours every couple weeks and add fresh fuel as we go. It’s a pain in the butt but so far so good. I didn’t try to fix the 4th one, he lives at the far end and I don’t know the guy, but I’ve heard it running and don’t know if only the pilot jet clean would work. After the first winter I left mine with gas and stabilizer, my son uses stabilizer but ran his out in the spring. In the fall neither would idle.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely seems to happen often with today's fuels even with stabilizers

[@GroundRatt]

You saved my back and backside. Awesome video, thanks much.

[@IndRepair]

Great job! Thank you for the comment so glad to help!

[@tomroeder7348]

Good video, thanks for doing this.

[@IndRepair]

Glad to help! Thanks for watching!

[@kennethpayne8575]

Thanks for the tutorial. My Cub Intellipower is a bit different, it plugs into a circuit board of sorts mounted above the carburetor. The governor control can remain mounted to the carb and you just unplug it, and you still have access to remove the pilot jet for cleaning. Followed your general instruction and the snowblower fired right up. Thanks!

[@IndRepair]

Awesome news! Do you have the engine info by chance from the side? Would love to understand what you are speaking of

[@RELIII76]

Great video, now my snowblower is working again!

[@IndRepair]

Awesome job! Glad to help!

[@rickey2186]

Thanks a lot for your instructional videos. I learn a lot from watching you to work on my own equipment as a homeowner. Thanks again.

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that and thank you for watching!

[@rickbroerman9267]

Thank you for the video!!!! I look forward to watch your videos 📹 every day!!!!

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

[@Lobstah2448]

Well done! Although my cub cadet did not have the electronic ignition this video was very informative. Now my CC runs great and no longer surges. I'm now ready for this North Dakota winter. Thank you so much!!

[@IndRepair]

So glad to help!

[@IndRepair]

Awsome!

[@RajElayath]

Very well explained. You are great, keep going. It will help many people for sure. Thank you

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that! Glad to assist!

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Good one, Martin, as usual. 👍 I’ve been watching that brush get smaller and smaller! 😂

[@IndRepair]

Haha, I have a couple about that size but they sure are getting down there

[@russellmaddock3492]

My neighbor put his Cub Cadet snow blower away last winter without draining the carburetor. Just the other day he asked me If I could clean the carburetor. I told him yes and told him more than likely the idle jet is plugged. Sure enough, it was plugged, and it took one of my micro drills to open the jet up. What came out was a hard black substance no doubt caused by ethanol fuel. I shared with him to use non ethanol fuel which we have at a Speedway real close to us. I use non ethanol fuel and Sea Foam in all my OPE. Never have any carburetor issues. The Speedway carries 89 octane non ethanol fuel that seems to work really well in all my OPE. I've also used 92 octane none ethanol and my machines seem to cold start better using 89 octane. Small 4 cycle engines are relatively low compression and don't need higher octane made for higher compression engines. Enjoyed your very Indepth video. I am sure your videos are a great help to many seeking help with their OPE.

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that! Glad you got it going!

[@walterbeaver6365]

Great video. Easy to follow and understand. Thankyou Sir.😊

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate that!

[@christophersousa109]

Great video and very helpful! I'm in the process of figuring out my issues... only running at 3/4 choke and mid-throttle. I'm thinking gas is the problem as I'm also seeing debris in the tank. Going to tear down the carb this week and give it a good clean. That said, how do you access the fuel filter in these? I'm assuming they're the tiny in-line style?

[@IndRepair]

They are at the nipple of the fuel outlet inside the tank. You can blow it out using compressed air. Sounds like debris and bad fuel causing carburetor issues could be what is causing it

[@philliphall5198]

At least there starting there equipment and getting it to the shop early 😊

[@IndRepair]

For sure! We have a ton that actually get on the service early or late to beat the rush. Helps the busy curve a little

[@mattthrasher9133]

Even though I ran snowblower out of gas last season the bs ethanol got me. Followed video and she fired right up. Will use only treated non-ethanol fuel from now on.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely happens a lot on these!

[@richardaquino1640]

Good video when I stored mine last year I used trufuel and it started right up no problems. I did also do a test on the trufuel I took small mason jars and filling them half way, one completely sealed and one with a vent hole from an old can opener. The one sealed stayed Chrystal clear and never evaporated at all but the vented one was almost all gone and even that fuel turned slightly yellow. The problem is the air is getting to the fuel and causing it to go bad quicker, so I think filling the tank and sealing it with a piece of plastic or something similar would be beneficial….. thanks again for the video it was very informative.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely agree, any fuel will go stale from evaporation or moisture getting into the tank eventually

[@paulc.schiller9372]

Hi Martin. Great video, these engines with e-governors are new to me, thanks for the explanation of how they work. Have you ever seen a snowblower with a gas cap that doesn't vent? I had that issue once, and it caused a similar problem. How does this MTD's gas cap vent?

[@IndRepair]

I have seen the issue before on many things but I am not sure I ever remember seeing one on a Powermore engine. These do vent through the fuel cap or top of the tank depending on the design

[@jamesbarlowjr.3762]

Thanks for the video. I just put a new carb on my 3 Stage and ran excellent yesterday, went to use it today and had one more drive to do and it started surging then eventually stalls out what could the issue be especially with a new carb? Thanks

[@IndRepair]

Was the fuel completely empty before replacing the carb? I would still check the main jet many times metal shavings make it into the bowl during manufacturing

[@rodneybaldwin9228]

Awesome video. I have a 3x cub 30". Had to replace the carb from being gummed up. Now the surging is still there just not nearly as bad. The small plastic pilot adjustment, you said here to be about an 1/8" showing, is that something I could use to give it a touch more fuel? Partial choke makes the surging go away. It was a cub cadet OEM carb I replaced it with, non electric governor. Thank you.

[@IndRepair]

Thank you! Either have an air leak between the carburetor and engine or some bad fuel still in it likely. Many of the carbs will even have debris in them from the factory. Never a bad idea to check

[@rodneybaldwin9228]

@@IndRepair I'll give it a check over thank you!

[@chrisnewbury2989]

Outstanding video sir. Question: where can I find a new carb for a 2022 2x24 243cc cub cadet? I can't find one anywhere for the intelli power. Thanks.

[@IndRepair]

You need the info from the unit or engine itself to get a carburetor. I can help if you provide either

[@chrisnewbury2989]

@@IndRepair snowblower model # 31AM6HVRB10. Carb brand is Keima # 220628 875W A12522

[@IndRepair]

@chrisnewbury2989 that is an 875-WU engine part number is 751P22648

[@chrisnewbury2989]

@@IndRepair thank you so much

[@IndRepair]

@@chrisnewbury2989 Glad to help

[@southerncomfort971]

excellent video, thank you. Have you found carburetor issues like this when Trufuel is used only? Thank you

[@IndRepair]

Definitely see issues with Truefuel only being used. Many of the others seem to perform better

[@southerncomfort971]

@@IndRepair which other do you recommend? i need to get more soon. maybe today. thank you

[@IndRepair]

@@southerncomfort971 we recommend Aspen fuels. They seem to keep the longest and work the best shelf life and performance

[@southerncomfort971]

@@IndRepair thank you I will look for that brand. Have a great day

[@hd114ul7]

I just got one. I am wondering if there is room to put a shut off valve on the fuel line. Ethanol fuel is garbage for jets and needle and seats. My older snow blower had a valve and I could run the float bowl out of fuel.

[@IndRepair]

It would be super tight, I have never seen one successfully installed on this or similar models

[@dalestanley506]

An interesting video would be taking an older engine and retrofitting to eliminate the electronic garbage if possible.

[@IndRepair]

I am sure they don't have a mechanical governor here so the case would have to be heavily modified and a bunch of parts added. Definitely possible but probably not very logical to do. I will check it out once I have one opened up vs the original design could be interesting, no doubt

[@michaelfarris2556]

Oh man, I'm not ready, but I'm guessing better get ready or never.

[@IndRepair]

Me either but it's definitely coming

[@michaelmaruzzelli2522]

You say no ethanol fuel and treat. What do you recommend to treat

[@IndRepair]

We use Phaser 3000 amzn.to/3UPrScp

[@sneak6654]

I sold my Troy Built 2410 that I bought brand new in 2020 last weekend because of that Powermore engine on it. I’m thinking about buying an Aierns 24” Deluxe and it comes with a Chinese engine on it that is specifically made for Aierns from what I’ve read about it. Do you think the Chinese Aierns engines are well built or have you seen a lot of problems with them. Thanks.

[@IndRepair]

These come with an LCT engine I believe? Just standard Chinese engines, don't see too many issues with them but not super high quality either. Seem build better than the Powermore, I would say

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

That machine looks like it might have been used once after purchase, using ethanol fuel. Hoping the owner watches this video and learns. 👍

[@IndRepair]

Definitely, if it was used it was not much

[@JoeIsuzusGarage]

Pull the piece of wire out; do not cut it. My mechanic friend cut a piece of and it flew out and I'm embedded in his eye. A couple of procedures and a surgery later and he lost 30 to 40% of his vision.

[@IndRepair]

Always wear safety glasses will help to prevent this also

[@Jim-ie6uf]

So undoubtedly cheaper to produce, but are repair parts, expensive or NLA right out of the box?!

[@IndRepair]

Actually, everything seems to be pretty cheap. Has $40 ecm, $50 carb and the coil, throttle motor and speed switch are not bad. Question is how long will they keep making them?

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

As with you, I’m not a fan of anything that is superseded with electronics. It’s just more things to fail more readily. Sitting in the shed most of the year the mice will have meals. 😉 I can also see a PCB cracking solder lines as it heats and gets very cold in the Winter - just a recipe for failure.

[@IndRepair]

They want a throw away society so you can buy another I feel

[@robc.5745]

If they put a fuel shutoff on it no one would have this problem.

[@IndRepair]

It definitely helps!

[@ronsteitz4535]

Rebuild carb kits can cost up to $15.00 and new carb could be cheater.

[@IndRepair]

A new carburetor is about $50 on this one, really depends on how bad the inside it and what parts are needed. Many times a quick cleaning will do the trick. If many parts are needed cheaper to throw a new one at it

[@ronsteitz4535]

You really should be wearing rubber gloves when working with Carb cleaning,🤔

[@IndRepair]

Cancer is an SOB and I am sure it does cause this with repeated exposure, so you are absolute correct. Maybe I need to be more careful about this

[@philliphall5198]

These engines are all ready giving a lot of trouble and hardly any use at all, sadly I am not doing warranty work period 😮

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, we used to do Menards warranty work and it was such a headache we stopped doing any of it for any company. We have seen so many issues and companies not want to warranty obvious design or warranty issues. No Thanks!

[@crisprtalk6963]

They shoulda bought the 4X, its twice as good! Rookie mistake.

[@IndRepair]

Haha!! That is for sure!

[@philliphall5198]

Do what the sheep do, buy a new one every year 😢😢😢

[@IndRepair]

Haha, it really is crazy how many people just toss their brand new stuff to the side and go grab another!

[@philliphall5198]

Only time will tell how long they will last and MTD controls the price of parts if they sale any😢😢😢 It’s a bad deal anyway you look at it 😂

[@IndRepair]

For sure, planned obsolescence at its best

[@mrbubetube]

ya, I think intellipower is a dumb gimmick and not needed for residential use. commercial snowblowing might benefit from that but if you're going to automate the carburetor like that, might as well just go EFI and skip the middle step of that intellipower crap. In fact, I've been wondering why EFI hasn't become standard by now. With all the maintenance you have to do on the carburetors pretty much every year, the extra cost of going with EFI should be justified.

[@IndRepair]

Sounds like the case!

[@KSMike1]

Snowblowers already…

[@IndRepair]

Yeah, we work on them all year just get a backlog of about 20 and then start to get to them soon as we have any time. Great day to do this, was 93 yesterday lol

[@pyralux01]

"zero time"?.......

[@IndRepair]

Not sure when I said that?

[@roryfaherty4375]

why not buy a new carburetor for $20 and replace???

[@IndRepair]

Can if you like to, this one just needed a quick cleaning

[@IndRepair]

Carburetor part number 751P22648 for this one is definitely more than $20

[@ronsteitz4535]

These engines are all made in China,more f a throw away motor. Cheaper to buy new carb from Amazon than rebuilding old one. Labor costs alone can make this snowblower a throwaway.🤔

[@IndRepair]

Carb on these are about $50 so likely worth cleaning. Labor costs make many things throwaways and make people throw carburetors at them now adays. This is why we have hundreds in stock unfortunately

[@richardburnett2749]

No, it will probably be Battery operated no worries all more Weedwhacker wore and everything else will probably be battery not gas. They are putting small engine repair companies out of business guy

[@IndRepair]

Yeah for sure, you a probably right. I just don't think it will fully be there in my lifetime, cold wreaks havoc on batteries so runtime will be minimal. We work on battery operated stuff also but much of it is being made to throw away anyway

[@lopincol]

Battery is all fun and games until you need to buy $1000 batteries for your $1200 snowblower or mower 5years down the road. They are not thermally controlled like electric car batteries so they really don't last long. All throwaway. Not very good for the environment.

[@IndRepair]

I definitely agree there. They would likely be much cheaper in a snowblower but the last small riding mower I did cost the lady $1,400. The mower was less than 3 years old and had lost 60% capacity