Cup win - What next? - America's Cup 17-10-24

[@PJSO]

Really appreciate these informative videos mate. This cup cycle is the first one I've paid attention to and it helps so much to learn the rules, language, outline and history of the Americas Cup. Thanks!

[@gbrown9663]

Kiwi's been good for the cup they open up more events like the womens racing etc.

[@Gottenhimfella]

Also I would argue it's the most nearly level an America's Cup playing field has ever been. (Treating CoR as a partner rather than an adversary, setting up fair Protocols, sharing Info and Technology , etc etc) It seems clear that the kiwis want to win it against the strongest competition possible. Rather than making it artificially hard for them. (it's always going to be hard, no need to screw the scrum) The kiwis seem (more or less) to realise that winning is only winning if your opponent has had a fair go. After the two wins by GB, Bleddyn Mon told of numerous kiwi fans approaching him on shore to offer warm congratulations to the team on their success.

[@Gottenhimfella]

In fairness I'd have to add something which is increasingly obvious: the kiwi effort is actually an ANZAC effort, and personally I think that's crucial. If Australia get their act together and mount another decent challenge the kiwis will have a fight on their hands which I frankly doubt they'd have an even chance of winning, once the Ockers got a few campaigns under their belt... And it's notable that they are careful to pick Aussies who represent the finest qualities that great nation can exhibit, socially, not just in sailing skill. Altruism, generosity of spirit, pithy, succinct communication, and bubbly but casual confidence without the usual attendant ego issues. It's an inspiring foil to what the kiwis bring to a table, the combination seems to catalyse a chemistry which is hard to beat. It first (AFAIK?) emerged in two world wars, and it still works (when everything clicks into place) remarkably well.

[@williamware9443]

Love your content. Thank you!❤

[@alanyardley4832]

Great interview Matt.

[@jokerinexile]

“If the Kiwi’s win, they will be the first team to win the cup three times in a row…” USNYYC 1851-1980 (AC1-25) - *spits out coffee* “What the hell did he just say?! Do I hear the sound of some tea that needs to be thrown in a harbor…?”

[@jokerinexile]

Joking aside, good video. While monohull is what most of us use, I am in camp 2. AC should be at the cutting edge of technology much like F1.

[@carl4889]

While it's not an accurate statement, during the 12 metre era there were different defender syndicates competing, and none defended the cup more than twice in a row. You'd have to go back to the J-class era when the Vanderbilt family had a lock on defending the cup for the statement to be totally wrong.

[@PJSO]

I thought so too but he said "team". The U.S dominance was with multiple teams over the 130+ years. A good distinction

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@carl4889 There's literally only one syndicate that won three cups in a row, Harold S Vanderbuilt. Actually reading closer it looks like Harold was not the head of the syndicate for all three, but he did skipper the first boat. Those three campaigns, Enterprise, Rainbow, and Ranger were the last three cups in J class boats incidentally. Herreschoff on the other hand, was directly responsible for several winning boats, but never ran a team.

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@PJSO Indeed. He carefully chose to say Team, rather than Club, or Nation

[@whaugen57]

Would look forward to a report on who got the first 'Letter of Challenge' in after ETNZ won. Congratulations to both teams, honestly was hoping for Britannia, but we also very much like ETNZ and their well earned victory. Have really enjoyed your reports during 37th America's Cup.

[@Luka-kb5tk]

Based on the excellent relationship with INEOS, I’d put money on them, as there was the usual discussions well before the end of the event.

[@Luka-kb5tk]

Just watched PlanetSail video report of last race and Ben mentioned he’d signed the paper, and looking forward to working with the ETNZ in making the next cup even better.

[@stevenbissett]

One of the rules for the next America's Cup will be the playing of the Saudi national anthem before the start of each race just like they do with the boxing at Wembley.

[@crazyhorse2995]

And that they have t enter a dhow😱😂

[@stevenbissett]

@@crazyhorse2995 Sounds like real sailing then.

[@crazyhorse2995]

@@stevenbissett at least they have a sea t sail in. The swiss dont.

[@stevenbissett]

@@crazyhorse2995 You're quite right. The Swiss have no right competing for the America's Cup. They are a land-locked country.

[@shawnee0011]

I believe the Americans won 3 times in a row, then another 21 times after. It’s not the first time someone has said that too without the qualifier of “beside the Americans”

[@weatheranddarkness]

Yes, teams under that flag, sailing for the NYC won continuously. However, none of the teams won more than two in a row, either no longer competing, or being beat in the defender selection series. ETNZ on the other hand has yet to face a competing defender from NZ.

[@profiskipinternational4402]

excellent video. I suppose, as Grand Dalton said today in the interview while on the way back to the harbour after the win, that the new challenger will be announced next days, that behind the curtains, already the relevant decisions are being made. Lets see if the Brits can repeat their position or if the American boys step in. I cant imagine, that Alinghi with all their technical problems or the French team might pop up.

[@skeetamacgyver1821]

Hi Matt, I was intrigued with some comments coming off the Kiwi boat in and about race 5 where they came off their foils in the pre-start. It looked to my eye that they were well clear of Britannia but they were perhaps reacting to the risk that Britannia would use their right if way to dial them down. Do you access to the boffins required to run simulations of that start sequence (perhaps the umpires software?) and perhaps get a few sailors to run through the potential outcomes if NZ had not Gybed when they did? It would be awesome viewing. Cheers

[@floodo1]

My man finished strong!

[@darrellhanks6459]

As far as the two camps on what direction the cup should go in, why not do both? Have a modern cup cycle as is currently happening and have a classic cycle. Possibly continue with 12mR boats. There is still development happening in the meter boats, just look at the current 5mR and 6mR winning boats. I would love to watch classic match style races in large boats. The races would probably be very close and fun to watch.

[@wwfgumby]

How can NZ be the first team to win the cup 3 times in a row when the Americans held it for 132 years and won it many many times over that period.

[@PlanetSailOnline]

First team….the American dominance was with same club but with different teams

[@jeffappleton926]

@@PlanetSailOnline Difficult to think the same team represented the one club for 132 years...

[@davidsailboat5441]

Come on....I think he meant other than the 132 yr run...seems well implied to me.

[@Luka-kb5tk]

@@davidsailboat5441 he is 100 percent correct as we are talking teams.

[@ianhawthorn1527]

The cup isn't held by a team. It is held by a club. Teams are a modern invention not in the deed of gift.

[@ClivehWright]

😂 Found myself sitting with Aaron on Imagine (the Kiwi friendly super yacht) to sign the challenge! 😂 Think the doors were all locked at the RNZYS too! I am in camp 2.

[@ClivehWright]

I have a feeling the Commodores of the RYS and RNZYS will be on board Imagine tomorrow with documents in hand.

[@garygavin857]

Compelling Competition Reflecting many aspects of the World we live in today. The boats today really are flying machines. I will find going back to sail GP tame stuff. Hoping this cup goes down too the wire.

[@stevenbissett]

The America's Cup seems to be morphing into something other than sailing. Who knows where it will end up.

[@Luka-kb5tk]

I think the new T-foils will add another level to SailGP

[@weatheranddarkness]

@@Luka-kb5tk considering how much more contact there is in that series, I am slightly concerned about some slicing and dicing with the raised position of the T foil

[@Luka-kb5tk]

@@weatheranddarkness good point.

[@fabiocampagnoli]

Now that the organisation and sponsors made everyone happy by having ineos win a couple of races, it's back to be a normal race, which means 6-2 then tomorrow 7-2... unless......

[@barneyrubble9309]

They need more interesting course The whole upwind/Downwind thing is boring.

[@gregmcmillan3439]

First team to win 3 cups in a row? Please explain that cause i think that’s incorrect?

[@PJSO]

Team, not country or club. So yes it's a good distinction in the Cups history.

[@gregmcmillan3439]

@@PJSOok agreed!

[@jamesh1761]

@@PJSO NYYC

[@Silvius.2]

What then alinghi made wrong in valencia? Was it only sign a new challenger before last race yacht was over line?

[@knutpohl339]

It was that the yacht club of Valencia (I believe that was the intended challenger of record) was relatively recently founded and LL challenged in court that the challenger of record was qualified as such, which was deemed that it was not.

[@grahamsnyder762]

As @knutpohl339 says, there was a legal challenge that resulted in the initial challenger being ruled ineligible. The Deed of Gift stipulates that challenging club's "annual regatta" must meet particular criteria, but the challenging club was formed specifically to challenge for the cup and had never held a regatta of any kind. After multiple appeals it was determined that even if the challenger had an intention to hold a compliant annual regatta in the future, this did not constitute the club "having an annual regatta" as required by the deed.

[@cooldude.1811]

Is it time to scrap the Challenge Round? After all, Wimbledon did so in 1922.

[@TheOnlySF49erFanInNewZealand]

Hope this is not a repeat of 2013.

[@mikedeyett9654]

Actually nzl is not the first to win the cup 3 in row if they win. The Americans clearly have that record.

[@Jetflightline]

camp 1

[@kenurquhart2061]

This cup needs a big rethink. The racing was mostly predictable and boring. The whole event with the cource layout up and down legs mostly 6 times. We have lost what sailing is all about it is so sterile with toooo much Teck. I look back in history when they used real yachts and marvel how good seamanship won the day. These boats are all frustrated aircraft wishing to fly but can't.

[@aaronhudson6816]

you should watch more golf bro, the whole beautity of this comp is thats its so hard to win, ask the brits. Its not meant to be like any other sport

[@andrewpaterson5192]

The whole concept based on obscene levels of direct carbon emissions is unacceptable in todays environment. The message to todays children , from the Americas Chp , and other elite sailing events, is that winners get entitlement to polute, losers , and the rest of us get to clean up the mess. This is the antithesis of good sportmanship..

[@Wellbiker]

And how do you come to that conclusion?

[@rustyone7299]

Get back on your medication

[@crazyhorse2995]

Rhubarb,rhubarb.

[@declanmurphy6427]

BORING 🥱