Custom Dyno Tune

[@cellstuff]

247hp from 170hp..That's pretty darn good..

[@dahlmasen3084]

On the wheels too👍🏻

[@mewwew411]

"and Marty knows the drive ability of soccer moms."

[@ramairgto72]

+Mew Wew Foot Ball Mums'*

[@Ojgville4l]

+Mew Wew Poor Cheryl.

[@HotForgeChaos]

That's a pretty impressive gain, especially gaining 50kw at the low end of the rev range, that would make it a totally different beast to drive

[@kevinkehlet1543]

The Moogaru was the reason I got into MCM. When I was looking to get some power out of my 2010 Forrester xt turbo

[@experienceoutdoors6598]

Just looking for comments about that guy's sideways hat

[@prizedcoffeecup]

Sideways hat Wayside hat Wayside school Wayside school is random cartoon Why did I watch as kid nobody knows I might be sideways potato hamburger explosion nothing makes sense goodbye pancake launcher

[@chriswww]

***** God speed you magnificant son of a bitch.

[@modslot]

+Calvin Stevens Sideways hats are are intelegence adjusters. IQ drops in proportion to the amount of degrees hat is turned

[@prizedcoffeecup]

Brian Stoner I have seen people who have turned their hat more than 360 degrees and even let the hat fall off their head entirely Lmao

[@wtfbshax]

I think these official playlists need updating :( missing heaps of episodes

[@lrnlrn]

Wish I could find a jolly tuner like this dude out here in the states

[@daillest3139]

+lrnlrn lol yeah right every tunner is a dick head

[@royn.1968]

Irnirn You could try PFI Speed near Loveland, CO. They have their own channel: PFISpeed

[@armaseluradu]

Finally more videos on your Subaru Forester XT , I actually like the car and I want to see how the "Final Build" will perform and look like !

[@customspraymods]

Gotta love it when the credits start rolling but there is still like a minute left on the time bar. Ya know there will be some more funny shit coming up.

[@NZAutospares]

met you guys today while I was working, went home sanded my facelift bumper primed it did some boging fixed a coilover on my friends subaru and installed a strut brace on my mates r33 talk about insane motivators you guys rule and always will hope to see you guys back at super cheap while your still in NZ

[@lilvietromeo]

"and marty knows all about the drivability of soccer moms" hahahaha

[@ImAzraa]

Custum chip tuning that powerful? Kinda astonished here, mates. Thats some very professional work Lachlan/Ben are doing. Unlike most "tuning garages" out there

[@fazer12779]

You should have posted a 'first drive' reaction video. :)

[@TheOxyMorin]

This and the previous episodes were awesome! Can't wait to see what else you guys can achieve with more supporting mods and tuning, love the work gentlemen keep it up! (that's what she said)

[@tylerlahodny2010]

Im no car guru but definitely recommend this channel for entertainment. Im definitely slapping that sub button, Keep up the good work +Mightycarmods

[@gt4drifters]

The 169KW is measured at the flywheel which translates to about 125kw at the wheels. The 182kw they got at the end of the video is also measured at the wheels so the engine itsself is probably making 220-230kw at the flywheel.

[@christopherderycke3603]

I’ve just binged watched this whole series. Now want a forester.

[@ospha1]

I have a 2010 forester xt with intake, intecooler, exhaust, vf52 and fuel pump and got 192kw I was pretty happy

[@MrBrennanCreeper]

Where is the turbo swap vid? In the playlist it goes from the electric supercharger, to this.

[@blk96teggy]

Everyday I fall deeper in love with Subaru's and it's community. Congrats on incredible power gains! All we'll drive baby!

[@Aj1981Mr]

Ahh the days before covid when you could hug your tuner.

[@SESSHOMARUchannel]

I have 2015 forester xt just got a pro tune all finished up and it pushing 300 hp at 21 pounds of boost. This puppy fly's like the wind now all I need is a 6 speed manual sti transmission to slap in and I can get a bigger turbo to make it go choo choo even more!!

[@Callmelucky]

that s13 in the back mhmmm memories huh moog

[@eddietorres112]

One of the best episodes yet. You guys just keep getting better. I laughed my ass off and it was awesome to see the Moogaru make that kind of power. Bring it on now, Cressida.

[@STAG162]

Just doing a check through on the Season 4 playlist, and I don't see where the turbo upgrade video is. The vid before this (electric superchargers) says it's after that vid, and this vid says it was just done. Wondering why it isn't in the playlist. -__-

[@butwait]

STAG162 watch?v=A2Po7fMbO_A

[@Sigrafix]

It's been a while since I've been genuinely excited over a car video heh.. this episode had me on the edge of my seat.. felt almost like I was Moog watching my baby get juiced up. Can't wait to see what's next for the Forrester.. great series, I'm looking forward to the next installment as much as I look forward to the next episode of Top Gear. Never been a big Subaru fan other than STi's, but I love the Moogaru, awesome car.

[@Megan-hf4fr]

Ah tuning, just like overclocking only for cars instead of computers.

[@mendezmarcos38]

Lol hell yeah

[@PseudoKirby]

+Megan Arrington you seem well informed. thats wonderful

[@mendezmarcos38]

+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.

[@mendezmarcos38]

+PseudoKirby You see, if I would have said that, you wouldn't have cared. But since this person commented and has a profile picture of a girl, you're gonna be nice to her in the hopes that you are gonna get laid. Problem is that your chance in getting laid over a comment like that is 148,958.99 to 1. Why try? you're being nice to someone who will completely ignore you and go on with their day not even thinking about your comment you posted out of the kindness of your heart.

[@PseudoKirby]

well no, never thought of it before in the context of that analogy, and no I can guarantee I will never ever sleep with this Megan person.

[@fockyoumang]

You can do that buy getting a stronger spring in your forge 007 diverter valve and adjusting the rod from the wastegate solenoid to the flapper on the wastegate if it's internally gated. Or take the top vacuum line off and prevent the wastegate from opening if you want to be stupid and destroy your turbo from the compressor surge

[@weaponofmassconstruction1940]

Ah, the joys of lactose intolerance. 5:51

[@khalonen]

Awesome video, still clearly remember my first ride after exhaust+custom reflash job in 2007 with my03 sti. Subaru stock ecu and almost free tools to play with are just more than I need.

[@Xyronium]

180kw club? is that even a thing?

[@electrohunter77]

It's 315hp at the crank...that's a lot more than stock.

[@markrich3271]

Its still horribly slow

[@lowslowfoz]

Mark Rich Um

[@Sander_Salamander]

Not necessarily. If you upgrade the right parts and or use a conservative tune it wont hurt the engine at all. But you do have to do things like run higher octane gas and change your oil, spark plugs, belts, preventative maintenance stuff more often.

[@hey41ful]

I was lost through the whole video :|

[@ibinyth5866]

Ricardo Sandoval What had you lost?

[@hey41ful]

I lost the knowledge on cars I never had

[@jimmyjohnson7941]

they changed the limiters in the computer chips so it would run optimally

[@geeksquadgreg]

depends on who you know.. full retail could be close to a grand or more depending on whether or not you have a stand alone or if you are tuning the factory ecu.

[@H0B0LISH3S]

I'm just chilling at 196kw on my stock commodore..

[@sm-vu4er]

Yeah but it's a commodore haha

[@justmechanicthings]

+jacob iversen I bet you'd still totally get chopped by the Mooby on the 1/4 mile

[@jd_gtv3485]

I'm just chilling at 200kw on my stock wrx

[@H0B0LISH3S]

+Clifford R34 beaten plenty of those before ✌🏻

[@jd_gtv3485]

+jacob iversen ahaha and I've chopped many commies ✌🏽️

[@RS8715]

Sheryl would be very excited for a ride in this car after football practice!

[@ItalianAvalanche]

More power than a stock STI? I thought the dyno said 245HP and STI's come with 305?

[@itsXanity]

I also think they make weird hp generally in MCM so to say. In Denmark for instance the Forester 2.5 XT makes 225hp stock, and yeah the WRX STi makes 305hp. :|

[@FronkG]

you both need to know the differences between whp and bhp..

[@itsXanity]

Yes, and my friends stock 2005 wrx sti makes 305hp on the dyno

[@FronkG]

Lasse Olsen are you positive it's stock? stock blob eye sti makes around 220-260 awhp on various dynos. Proofs can be found in numerous Subaru forums.

[@itsXanity]

Yes I'm 100% sure. Just like my brothers BMW 525i LCI (218hp stock) was dyno to 221hp, and my friends civic type r (201hp stock) was dynoed to 203hp. They've always matched the numbers from the factory... except ofcourse if it has like 400.000km and is really "tired" ofc it would lose some hp. I don't know if they get different models in Australia than eu?

[@devilzsmile]

my heart jumped a little when I saw this video at the top of my page... love your work!

[@Stanislaw365]

stop talking in kilowatts, it's a damn engine! not a generator ¬_¬

[@d4rkhound388]

alex cadenas Get the fuck out.... just leave.....

[@Stanislaw365]

make me ¬_¬.!.

[@d4rkhound388]

alex cadenas Learn what kilowatts are then you can flip me off kiddo.

[@Stanislaw365]

I know what they are, I was just exclaiming my annoyance about something

[@Stanislaw365]

meh, I don't feel like it.

[@mightycarmods]

Marty is just seeing how far he can push a soccer mum... Hello Cheryl.

[@curo72]

Oh man. You got me so good. I'll admit that I was suspicious that you were trolling, but I wasn't sure, and still had me convinced for quite a while. You seriously land yourself in my books of top trolls of all time. My hat off to you sir.

[@bunsofsteeeel]

there's a misunderstanding here the top of the exhaust downpipe is the bellmouth part and the system should be 3" full system from the turbo back.

[@DevDog67]

WOW. When I get a new car, I seriously wanna personally talk to you guys about getting it to do some serious stuff. This is awesome.

[@Lizard_Man666]

At 4:37, I hope that was a slip of the tongue. You lose gauge pressure because the small turbo can't provide the flow rate. The large turbo can provide higher flow rate, therefore maintains gauge pressure. The two turbos aren't providing the same boost pressure, that's why there are gains

[@MrReef90]

Good work on the car it's come a long way since day 1

[@TheTekemasta]

I miss seeing yous work on this beautiful car

[@xECKSx58]

Stock STi has 305hp at the crank. Big difference from crank to wheels (about 15% usually, but probably around 20% for AWD). 305 - 20% = 244whp

[@PitFighter2007]

Love this show....hands down best auto show around I reckon its better than topgear!!

[@Superacerc]

No the ecu won't lose the tune if its reset. There is a tuning mode that you can use that will do that but it will lose everything and will not go to stock. It wont even crank. Not exactly sure why you would want to do that though. But no it won't reset in the mode they used.

[@samurphy]

two smaller turbos will spin up faster but run out of boost before one huge one would, but one huge one would take longer to spool up. depends on your application as to which is better.

[@oldfashionedwrx3574]

this test was done at the wheels, you lose power in all cars due to drag, friction in the drivetrain. they got 180kw at the wheels that is fast.... they weigh around the same as a wrx sti as well. tho then u dont get the features of a wrx sti like dccd, and other features to make it handle better etc but this is a practical daily drive as well.. as the guy said he is working with real people for real driving

[@ignuz]

Very Impressed by your results.. Now take it back down the quarter and let us know how you go, I bet there will be a huuuuge improvements over before.

[@Madmick82]

@mightycarmods Eric The Car Guy has been showing you alot of love on his youtube, Go MCM

[@curo72]

Not if you know what you're doing you won't. A stock mk5 GTI has a compression ratio of 10.5:1 and runs somewhere in the range of 14 psi from the factory. Or as another poster pointed about, 28 PSIA.

[@jpm9014]

"more air flow = more power, for the same amount of boost pressure", In this case the small td04 is unable to produce the same amount of boost pressure in the top end compared to the bigger turbo since the air flow to the cylinder is higher. Apply the perfect gas law.

[@daveytn]

Before anyone gets on their high horse, i've always been on the understanding the more bhp you "squeeze" out of an engine the less life the engine will have compared to it's original power? Anyway, very nicely done :)

[@skateteam5]

no body knows why mighty car mods is so amazing

[@fatenhappy1]

Got to say too .. went to cut out right on the credits but had to come back (yet again) for the magic music 'yet again' … great stuff fellas (love your work) … But when oh when are you going to big turbo anything on big bikes ?

[@donclarke699]

Hey guys building my first subie I have a 05 legacy gt limited I have some mods like exhaust,down pipe, turbo inlet, bov top mount intercooler and Cobb tuner but now want to upgrade turbo and pointers on something with top end....???

[@WTGRacing]

started off with 125kw and added exhaust, and bigger turbo and remapped with ez flash tuner raising to 185kw. a 60kw increace which is awesome

[@Northiee]

Correct. It wasn't named skyline as it lacked the famous straight six engine layout.

[@darrelbarnes5230]

No it started at 125kw stock and ended with 180-185kw after the tune, its called paying attention to details

[@Darkhunter218]

No, 210 HP out of a Forester XT. But stock dyno, they got 167 hp to the wheels. By the end they got 248 HP to the wheels.

[@spunkbad]

9 to 5 traffic around Sydney tends to be quite slow with a lot of start stop driving, I'm assuming they didn't go with a bigger turbo seeing as he still wants low end torque but a bit more at the top end.

[@SauronsEye]

I have a 2006 Ford Falcon 6 cylinder that does 180kw stock and it cost me $10,000 4 years ago. Plus it's a proper road car and this means the handling is much better.

[@i2ealiize]

MOOG is a composer and music producer in Australia.

[@trucksoner]

The turbo install video is actually missing from this playlist, it's called "how to upgrade your turbo"

[@curo72]

You can turbocharge your engine if you'd like. The only problem (as pointed out) is the fact that your compression ratio is so high that you can't safely run a whole lot of boost before you risk engine damage. However, the mk5 GTI engine has an engine that has a compression ratio of 10.5:1 right from the factory. From my minimal research, 250-300 whp should be fairly attainable. But if you are to turbo your car, do A LOT of research first. Then when you think you know everything, read more.

[@1nvd]

Can't wait to see what you guys are gonna do next

[@ImTheSlyDevil]

stock sti's dont make 300hp to the wheels. those figures are measured from the flywheel by the manufacturer. if you consider that this vehicle loses almost 20% power through the drivetrain, then calculate 245x1.2= 294hp at the flywheel which is not too shabby at all.

[@bunsofsteeeel]

the bellmouth downpipe is still very restrictive you can see when they are reinstalling it! the VF35 is a good turbo and has no spooling issues but a openmouth downpipe would have helped alot with spool!

[@halomaster985]

The only reason I can fathom that you would need to upgrade your memcal for is for faster data logging. I already know how to tune an OBD1 car, my camaro, for myself, I just wanted to see MCM do a video on it because there are a lot of OBD1 cars out of the road today and a lot of people don't know how to.

[@Xeil]

Missed that part! I had paused it and watched it when I got back home. I thought you were talking about the XT being an STi.

[@foggymind1]

good job guys but if you want to get more power you should change the comp ratio of each cylinders going down 1 point or 2 or more (need to check the comp ratio stock first) so you can pump more pression inside. It is an easier way to get your engine not working close to detonation. Ciao

[@gmancarini1]

mine has been chipped. last year it was on the dyno and i got 257 from all 4 wheels. other than the chip, it has a minor exhaust upgrade which didnt really give it more power, it gave me a nicer sound. i should say my mom but i drive it pretty often.

[@CounsilHan]

I love how Lachlan is so jolly. Like a young Santa haha.

[@yuephoria]

Congrats on the power! I have a VF43 waiting to go in my Forester XT as well. :)

[@DrEtzor]

Did the Subaru vs. Subaru ever happen?

[@lildragon5555]

The GT-R is legal in the US, correct. What's illegal are the old Skyline GT-Rs because of no crash data and emission related issues. They can still be imported, but a lot of modifications need to be made to make them street legal.

[@upstatetyler2380]

damn. wish I lived there. wouldn't mind my turbo being upgraded by these guys

[@TheQpadgaming]

wow, that forester is sick! Congratz Moog!!

[@PedanticRaver]

Not only did I read the entire thread, I also went out looking for anything that corroborated with your comment that I could find online. You seem to be the sole authority on the topic. Feel free to explain or provide a link so that I may educate myself. Please continue the insults, I'm taking notes here as I'm finding my feelings so hurt that I'll want to unleash them on the next person who challenges me. I'll be great

[@spotthedogg]

More Forester updates, please!

[@zakirali-xu2mb]

I think moog and marty should get an award for their epic dancing skills

[@erkelens1990]

"If this guy comes up, lock your doors and run " Marty's facial expressions are gold!

[@johngalt3614]

You have to go through an importer in the U.S. though. You can't go to Japan and have one privately shipped back unless its more than 25 years old.

[@joshbrown4123]

An S2000 with an engine that is 76% that size can put down around 200-ish horsepower at the wheels. if you put a turbo and other similar mods they have performed @ 10PSI you are looking at an easy 300...

[@croatianstalion]

wow,love your videos! this is the kind of show australian top gear should have been i am watching you all the way from Croatia

[@MountMyMonkeys]

Thats at the fly. you lose roughly 0.2 to the wheels depending on the type of car so it is more than a stock sti.

[@ashtonedwards262]

You guys are great and so informative 👍

[@grungeman06]

starting to learn more about tuning and I love this video. But that's crazy for 85% duty cycle on the fuel pump, I wonder if over time you would see fluctuations with a lab scope indicating a dying motor. And another is your spark timing table would be awesome to see. But awesome videos you guys, you made me a new fan of the show.

[@zombieregime]

the fuel pump should be running constantly keeping a steady pressure in the fuel rails. the injectors(which are just solenoid driven pin valves) are fiddled at 85% duty cycle. depending on the injector design, thats well within operational limits.

[@grungeman06]

still a lot of duty cycling for a OE pump tho. I think most scan tools only limit 70% at most for testing. But ya you can run it at that rate but it probably won't last that long.

[@hydrochloricity]

Thomas G. It's not the pump running at that DC. On turbo Subarus, the ECU normally runs the pump at 70% DC via a PWM box, and under boost ramps it up to 100%. Most fuel pumps are designed to run at 100% duty cycle and last hundreds of thousands of miles, and NA 'roos just have switched power. All or nothing. The 85% DC that's talked about is the fuel injector duty cycle. 90% is the rule-of-thumb limit for overhead on injectors.

[@HMan2828]

Feed your turbo intake with the electric turbo from ebay to minimize those low end boost losses from the larger turbo.

[@davefyil]

If you guys are going to sema this year, I totally want to have a drink with ya

[@XtremeCookiez]

A stock 350 had 255 hp, and that's crank hp not wheel hp like they are measuring. Now you're probably thinking, but the LT-1 in the '70 Corvette had 370hp. Yes it did, but that was using the old method of measuring hp (gross hp) which involved removing most engine powered accessories and changing exhaust headers, creating a extremely inaccurate hp value for the stock car. When the LT-1 was measured with net horsepower (the new form of measurement) it only had 255hp at the crank.

[@highfive994]

Mighty Car Mods moog got an itch? and an eye patch? 2:40 in the wing mirror?

[@00DCSY]

The Moogaru is running a GFB adjustable BOV, check out MCMTV2 for the install video. I assume hes recirculating

[@Harleysgaming]

that has to be the nicest forester i personallly have ever seen :)

[@Telexic]

To get around turbo lag can't you just downshift or brake boost. I know brake boosting wears out your brakes but, doesn't that allow you to reach max hp quicker.

[@emanyo]

Newly Subbed to this channel, Im so happy I did!

[@story_time8]

You can run low boost pressure off a turbo kit without any ecu bits. Its just not very safe