CZ457 MTR vs Heavily Modified Ruger RPR 50-100-200 yard groups shot with Lapua Long Range

[@chrisspanks7750]

Man that CZ is beautiful. The 22lr is the most versatile and fun cartridge, I'll fight anyone who disagrees. Thanks for the videos

[@RimfireSS]

I just bought a Henry .22 and I had a blast figuring out the sights and trying to rapid fire that rifle yesterday. Now I think I finally found what’s been missing in my shooting lately. This thing is a blast!

[@darrel15]

@TheMechatronicEngineerover 5x the price too.

[@michaell397]

@TheMechatronicEngineer For what? Larger pest, yep. Accuracy? Not even close! .17 HMR on the other hand can be pinpoint. Far too expensive for fun plinking though. KnifeMaker

[@sekaf4125]

Agree. I have a square I aim to and the group hits below. That way your aim is perfect everytime

[@nobodysbusiness4828]

Exactly you can’t destroy your aiming point and expect perfect tiny groups.

[@billbrown8291]

I have been bored shooting my 10/22 and my way too to expensive ruger PRC at 100 yards. I'm testing at 400yrds and 500yrds. SK long range ammo has been very impressive. However my last case of Norma has me dialed in Sub minutes. I shoot with rules, that 1"@100yrd targets. I'm just now have been sub minute @ 500yrd. 4.5" groups. Weather permits. Thanks for your decent and honest videos. WABrown from South Missouri

[@562handsomemike]

Can you tell me about your Ruger setup? Can I just buy the Ruger and put a $300 Shaw barrel on it? Anyone who has verified info, please feel free to answer also. Thank you in advance!

[@brockstucks6772]

Yes the 15 Rd mag moves around, the 10rd is a tighter fit. Doesn't deform the bullet

[@damarcuz1]

Always use The 10 round and upgrades the plunger and spring and the rpr is a consistent 1 moa gun at 100 yards

[@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan]

Very entertaining my friend. Keep making content like this! I subbed

[@RimfireSS]

Welcome aboard!

[@joed3264]

Just take the big spring out of the trigger to get an 8oz trigger. Nothing wrong with the chassis. BTW Shilen makes a nice barrel for the RPR. The bottom of the bolt needs to be chamfered a touch to stop shaving the next bullet up in the magazine. A Harrell's tuner really helped with groups.

[@brokosok]

The MTR that I had really liked SK rifle match. I also tightened up my groups with hand, feeding the chamber.

[@RimfireSS]

Mine definitely prefers the SK and Lapua offerings over anything else.

[@EpikArms]

Those are some dam good groups!

[@marktracht7782]

Nice! A fun and fair comparison. Enjoy your content. Wish I could shoot my MTR that well.

[@RimfireSS]

You can, just practice. You’ll get there.

[@dougreid2351]

Practice. There is no substitute. DOUG out

[@Jhossack11]

That was great! I’ve got a CZ 452 and Bluebird hous at 52 yards. Sparrows get dropped by CCI standard velocity ammo. A sweet older setup. Your MTR is just wicked good.

[@RimfireSS]

I really like that rifle. Shoot amazing for a factory rifle.

[@tonyparker6650]

That was going to be a very interesting comparison....ruined by ammo. Keep up the great work :)

[@RimfireSS]

Thanks Tony

[@winkdinkerson7190]

CZ for the win!

[@Hawkeye_lee74]

Both hit the 6 inch target. Good job

[@RimfireSS]

Those are actually 4” targets. I’m usually happy with hitting a 4” target but both rifles are capable of better. It’s all in the ammo.

[@Earlscourt1977]

You are a very good shooter😮

[@curtwarkentin2887]

I have to admit I love both rifle brands. I don't have an RPR but I have a super cheap but super accurate 10/22 and a couple CZ rimfires. I'm pretty biased I must admit to CZ. I can't say any CZ I own hasn't been crazy accurate, especially once you find the ammo it likes.😊 Excellent video. I think both your rifles are awesome but really nice to see how they can do.❤❤❤

[@RimfireSS]

Thanks Curt.

[@gregr3283]

My Ruger likes RWS Rifle Match above all others, and I've tried them all, or almost. Ammo testing is tedious and expensive but worth it.

[@RimfireSS]

I’ll use challenge targets so it’s fun too.

[@fosterprice5690]

Interesting test and the "right" conclusion, 22 ammo is very difficult to test with its inconsistencies - a surprise in every box/brick/lot depending on you luck!

[@RimfireSS]

Absolutely correct. That Ruger shot it’s ass off at 100 with the more consistent box of Ammunition and at 50 with that same box of ammunition the CZ did the same.

[@wowguy3562]

This is my "same old comment" I always make. I sort my cheapest ammo to the best, I find sorted ammo especially the cheap stuff shows better results, I believe 22lr, not so much the good stuff, is about the least regulated of all ammo made, ie mass produced equals less quality control, with exceptions of course Equipment used: RavenEye Custom shell holder (1/2" throw maximum) Digital Indicator .0005" Set of Indicator tips, I use the eraser sized one not the point that typically comes on most Digital/dial indicators Happy sorting, I typically sort into 8 lots of rim thickness .038 .0385 .039 .0395 .040 .0405 .041.0415 .042. etc

[@roybartoli9941]

La prova era scontata a favore pe la CZ ma io ho la ruger e mi piace indiscutibilmente di più ... Bella dimostrazione

[@charliefellous3152]

Try SK yellow box or SK long range. I have the CZ 457mtr from area 419. Amazing rifle.

[@RimfireSS]

I just bought a case of the SK std and it does shoot well in the MTR. Thanks for Watching

[@bobbygray496]

My Shaw 18" .920 barrel is accurate as you can get with no MB! It has an 11 degree target crown. Remember that slow is the way to go for best accuracy! I am curious on how often you clean your barrels? Inquiring minds would like to know....your videos are always interesting...so thanks for posting them!!!!!!!

[@RimfireSS]

Some I clean far to often, and some I wait till the accuracy declines, then I might just try cleaning out the carbon ring. Then if the accuracy don’t come back I’ll clean everything. 10/22s I clean quite a bit more. Maybe every 300 rounds. Hard to keep track of the maintenance of 15 .22s. That’s why I have a boroscope.

[@562handsomemike]

Did your Shaw .920” barrel direct fit in your Ruger Precision Rimfire Rifle chassis? I’m trying to justify buying the Ruger and immediately change the barrel to a Shaw or comparable. Any advice is very appreciated!!! Thank you in advance.

[@bobbygray496]

I have a custom Ruger 10/22@@562handsomemike that I put the Shaw barrel on...NOT a RPR rimfire!!!!!!

[@javiersp01]

Thank you, good shooting !!

[@glenthornley8217]

Like what your doing ,be nice to see the same in sk ,CCI standard, eley products just to name a few

[@RimfireSS]

Just did a video with the CZ and CCI standard velocity and the other CCI subsonics.

[@glenthornley8217]

@@RimfireSS enjoy watching your video, very educational,I have the CZ long-range love that rifle

[@RimfireSS]

@@glenthornley8217 I really like the CZ457 LRP wish they were more available in the States. You can get them but seems like there marked up more because there is not as many shipped here.

[@glenthornley8217]

@@RimfireSS it's the same here in Australia,was very lucky to get mine take care mate keep videos coming 👍

[@RimfireSS]

@@glenthornley8217 I will and thank you

[@22Really]

One thing I noticed with my RPRR, it shoots/groups better with 10 round mags than 15 round mags. GREAT video!! 22's are so much fun.

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

My Ruger RPRR factory was only so so . Nothing remarkable . So I change the barrel to Lilja . My favorite barrel maker . Change to timney trigger too . And arca rail . SWFA SS 12X scope . It is a very good rifle now . Unfortunately RPRR rear stock Is somewhat flexible . Not much I can do about it . I got bitten by Rimfire bug real bad . Start out with 10/22 LVT model end up with all 3 model of original LVT . A full KIDD 10/22 built . RPRR with Lilja . CZ 457 LRP , and CZ457 with Lilja . And a Vudoo V22 . We lived in the golden age of Rimfire . It is incredible how much high end choice we have right now . I’m afraid to browse Anschutz or Tikka or Bergara line up . Try my friend RimX . Have to slap myself not to get one built 😅 I have to keep on reminding myself to just shoot what I have .

[@RimfireSS]

I wouldn’t have so many if it wasn’t for my channel. Maybe 4. Who am I kidding…..

[@NeilNork]

BEST VIDEO ON YOU TUBE. THANKYOU SIR

[@RimfireSS]

Wow. Thanks

[@vinyltarian]

I enjoy all your videos. I've been thinking of getting the MTR for a while now. I wish magazines were easier to find. Where did you get the cheek riser on yours? It looks nice.

[@RimfireSS]

It’s a Victor Co Titan Riser. And if you get in stock notifications all over at different websites you’ll snag some magazines up soon. I did just that and when Armageddon Gear got there last shipment of magazines I bought 20 of them. I’ll never need to buy another one, ever. LOL

[@tomforeman4976]

Holly crap after you said that is pretty much all of the changes you called of over 1k in inprovements.

[@RimfireSS]

$1000??? Lol, no. About $670

[@RimfireSS]

I did pretty much replace everything that matters though.

[@lanejohnson7656]

You that butt hurt you have to blow everything out of proportion when crying? The CZ costs $350+ more than the Ruger which easily pay’s for the barrel. If you actually listened to the video he stated he could shoot it equally as well with the stock trigger.. lol…

[@Lowballinoutdoorz]

Love it😊

[@jimmywindham2720]

This was a good video!

[@RimfireSS]

Thanks man

[@PatriotNJ-qj8fv]

That Range looks like such a nice place to shoot. Kind of like a Park. If I had to guess, I would say you are in East Texas or perhaps Southwestern United States, Colorado? 🎯

[@dougreid2351]

Nice. Thorough and scientific. Keep it up. Subscribed tonight. DOUG out

[@RimfireSS]

Thanks Doug!

[@pitts3219]

Try shooting cardboard from broken down boxes sometime. It leaves perfect holes and no tearing. Would be perfect for videos shows individual holes.

[@RimfireSS]

That’s what I use for my backers.

[@nicepojos8766]

Awesome video. Thanks for this one too. I'd like to know your views on the CZ457 AT-One should that be on your agenda for the near future.

[@RimfireSS]

I believe the At-one is a 16.5” Varmint with the At-one Boyd’s stock. The Varmint shoots great. Not quite as good as the MTR which has a match chamber but good none the less.

[@nicepojos8766]

@@RimfireSS Thanks amigo. I recall reading somewhere that the AT-One (now) also has a match chamber.

[@RimfireSS]

@@nicepojos8766 I was just on CZUSA.com and there’s no MTR version of the AT-ONE in the US anyway. All CZ457s that have a match chamber have the MTR designation.

[@nicepojos8766]

@@RimfireSS Ah I see. I'll check the vendors here in the Netherlands, as I plan to buy the MTR or AT-One sonetime next year. Till then, I'll quench my thirst with your videos. I just remembered to hit the bell on my subscription. 😀

[@RimfireSS]

@@nicepojos8766 I’ll keep making them! Thanks for Watching!

[@cristianorambo5728]

CZ é incrível 👏🏻🇧🇷

[@nico-max]

Très bonne vidéo, thanks 👍

[@ryand8050]

The MTR is an amazing rifle.

[@RimfireSS]

My favorite

[@wowguy3562]

I can't believe my local gun shop has had my mtr's twin on the wall for two years, I bought the ugly one, the pretty ones still there

[@RimfireSS]

@@wowguy3562 really? Wow that’s unbelievable. Lol must not be any serious rimfire shooters around your neck of the woods.

[@boxerglocker]

I agree with the comment on using 10 round mags vs. the 15s. Another mod you may want to consider is adding the a kidd stainless steel plunger and extra power spring to give more consistent mag lock up. Also tune your mags by polishing the bottom of the feed lips and back off the rotary spring preload 2-3 flats. These will make feeding smother, lighter and more consistent.

[@Cristopher1976]

Good stuff. Lapua just needs to get center x out consistently.

[@RimfireSS]

Very disappointing to have this happen with such a high priced ammunition.

[@a-retired-fireman]

Don, this is so coincidence and perfect timing, and you confirmed what I was wondering lately....THANK YOU!!! I was at my range today shooting my CZ 457 VMTR and shooting from a brick (packaged as a brick of 500 from a reputable online dealer that I'm sure you've heard of and I've bought from before of various match ammo) of Lapua-LR and also noticed the same... and this is not my first time buying a brick of Lapua-LR (I've bought other bricks of LLR before)... I would have one box out of the brick that I had really great luck with. Open another and it shot kinda "loose" groups at 50 yds. Figured it was time for a couple of patches down the barrel. Same box would still shoot "loosley" even after giving it about 5-10 fouling shots after patching...(1 rimfire blend and two dry patches followed..... and yes, I know how to keep the "Carbon Ring" in check (because I'm OCD about that 🤣) I would eventually open the next box of LLR and start shooting from it ....and it seemed like my MTR had cured itself all of a sudden. 5 shot groups would be really tight (like .5 to .75 inch groups at 50 yards, almost one ragged hole).... A few times I would just sit back and look at the rifle sitting there in the rest and ask myself, WTH just happened..... 🤣🤣🤣. And I noticed this from just getting to the end of one box (of 50) and have to break open the next box of 50. Whether I patch the barrel or not.... Fouling shots or not... usually after a cleaning it only takes "my MTR'" about 3-5 fouling shots and its dialed in at 50yds As I think back, I think this "may" have occurred with other "Bricks " of "match ammo" I've purchased, come to think of it... 🤔

[@RimfireSS]

This is the age old problem with .22 ammunition, well if you think about it center fire is the same but serious shooters can reload and make sure everything is the same and there able to get the results they want. This is why people sort and weight and measure there .22 to try and make it more consistent. And I see why, because it’s frustrating as hell when you get ammunition that shoots lights out then the next box don’t. Your paying the long dollar so that don’t happen but even the expensive stuff will shoot like crap from time to time. Trick is to find a ammunition that shoots the most consistent and shoots the best in your rifle. If that’s even possible. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@juanrojos78]

Great Video

[@pitts3219]

You got those babies dialed in

[@RimfireSS]

It’s a constant battle, but one I enjoy greatly!

[@doncoleman8484]

Nice Don... There's a MTR near me that I'm considering for purchase...

[@RimfireSS]

Buy it!!!!!!

[@wowguy3562]

Consider waiting, so you can kick yourself in the future, there are a few guns I passed on, damn I miss those unicorns

[@geraldsanders9232]

I hear that most Olympic shooter use Eley. Wonder how Eley and Lapua ammo compare, pricewise.

[@RimfireSS]

There comparable but I have better results across the board with the SK, it shoots better in most of my rifles.

[@fppro1679]

I shoot a basically stock 10/22 and given the cost of these two weapons, I feel pretty damn good about what I'm getting at 100 yd!... Somewhere around 1.2 MOA.

[@RimfireSS]

So 1.5” groups?

[@chadwoodard108]

Al those modifications and no tuner. A cortina Tuner on a rpr will make it a top shooter on the market. Groups of 5 in the same hole at 50 yards. Once you dial in your ammo at 25 yards. If you watch ammo, you’ll have to redial the tuner to the new ammo.

[@trabaspalembangshootingclu8463]

Nice shoot my bro ❤

[@RimfireSS]

Thanks!

[@trabaspalembangshootingclu8463]

@@RimfireSS u'r welcome bro

[@johnhermsen6456]

Is no mussel break it is a mussel compensator. And the same fore my cz 457 the grooping get smaller

[@jamesskinner762]

Another very informative Vid. Which Riton is that?

[@RimfireSS]

It’s the Conquer 5 5-25x56 It’s a good scope, wish it had different turrets but there ok.

[@gordy1961]

Surely would have been better to test the 457 with several types of ammo to see the one it likes? Otherwise its not the same comparison?

[@RimfireSS]

They both shoot SK/Lapua very well, the problem was the inconsistency of the ammunition box to box. The Lapua Long range is one of the best ammunitions for that particular 457. But some lots perform better than others.

[@garybalasa3158]

Why do you think they both like the same ammo, maybe not a good comparison, I have 2 CZ'ds an MTR and a PRS one lovel Eley match and the other Lapua lomg range

[@RimfireSS]

We’ll I do shoot my guns off camera, and Both did like the ammunition just fine. It performed well in both rifles except for that one box that was inconsistent. I’ve shot both rifles enough to know which one shoots better overall.

[@Mike-we4yp]

Don, Thanks for the GREAT video , as ALWAYS. I would be curious to see if weighing these ammo out would have made any difference? I have found my groups to be more consistent, when I weigh out the flyers. Not sure ammo of this price and quality would have any differences, but the targets say different. I have a problem with paying 23+ for a box of .22 LR ammo, anyway. And to see those quality rifles shoot those groups with that high quality ammo, I think someone would be getting an e-mail or a snail mail letter. Thanks much AGAIN !!!!!!

[@RimfireSS]

It’s funny you say that, I was out shooting today working on another video, I was shooting Lapua super long range, and I’ve had so much trouble with inconsistent charges on this ammunition that I weighed it all out and sorted by rim thickness as well. I had the exact same results, fliers and all. So no I don’t think it would have made a difference. lol I really wish it would have.

[@Mike-we4yp]

@@RimfireSS Don - that is so sad to hear that. When I hear Lapua I would think quality and that ammo you are using is 23+ a box, and for that kind of money and just by the fact its all weighed and sorted, tells me there is something WRONG. I hope you reach out to Lapua and let them see what is going on. I would like to see the batch you are having issues with run in their test chamber and see how it does. Good LUCK !!!!!

[@j6077xxd]

​@@RimfireSSsuper interesting to note that, was considering doing that myself. An additional option would be chronying each shot, comparing the velocity variation with the flyers. For weight sorting, a half grain less bullet might be equalised by a half grain extra charge and so not show on the scales but result in velocity variation for sure.

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

Seems it would be a fairer comparison to split .22 ammo up from same boxes between the guns when comparing, as there can be so much inconsistency from box to box or really lots of the same ammo

[@RimfireSS]

Be awful hard to compare what the rifles are capable of If your throwing different lots together. Yes ammunition can be and is very inconsistent but when your testing to see what a rifle is capable of you have to use like ammunition.

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

And that was my point. You opened a new box of ammo before shooting the CZ, then the CZ shot like crap after having shot pretty well at 50 yards. My point was maybe you should have used some of the older ammo from the other gun with the CZ or if you were going to open a new box, use that same box with both guns, when comparing two guns

[@RimfireSS]

@@michaelthrelkeld212 well in a perfect world, had I known the same lot of ammunition wasn’t consistent box to box I would have done that.

[@charlesmckinley29]

I can’t believe Ruger hasn’t offered a similar chassis on the 10/22. Muzzel brake, a student put one on the night before class and it took him off paper about a 6-8” shift to the right. He put the thread protctor back on and came back to his zero.

[@RimfireSS]

That will happen on some rifles, but that’s pretty extreme. Haven’t had that issue here.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@RimfireSS I was guessing something was hitting. I was surprised it was that far off.

[@Pipizzakitchen]

​@@charlesmckinley29did the groups shrink. I'll bet they did.

[@charlesmckinley29]

@@Pipizzakitchen yes. He shot well after taking the brake off.

[@RetiredFE]

Compare apples to apples. You changed the barrel of the RPR. Leave them both stock. I have both of those rifles. Both like different ammo. When shooting the ammo that both rifles prefer, the test is more fair. Changing the barrel of the RPR is no longer in "my opinion" a Ruger. You simply cannot give credit to Ruger after changing the barrel and trigger. But that is just my opinion. However I did enjoy the video.

[@RimfireSS]

That’s why I called it a Heavily Modified Ruger in the title.

[@RimfireSS]

The point of the video was to show just how good the CZ457 is, it’s just as or more accurate then a highly modified rifle. Costing quite abit less.

[@lanejohnson7656]

He did compare apples to apples in a way. In the video he stated he can shoot the stock trigger in the Ruger equally as well. The CZ costs $350+ more than the Ruger IF you can find one, (which doesn’t seem like a lot until you figure in its $150 from being double the price). and that easily pays for the barrel.. Pretty much a wash..

[@manuelyidonoy1802]

Hi! Very interesting video! Great information value. Just one comment. Timney trigger pronunciation. It is “Tim-ney” not “Tim-en-ney”. Thank you again!

[@phenix3st]

Great video!!

[@chrisbailor733]

I think this was a great video and a good comparison. But I am pretty sure at the beginning of the video you stated that you weren’t sure what the CZ was going to do with the lapua ammo. So that being said how about comparing the two guns each with ammo they both like? Again I liked the video.

[@RimfireSS]

We’ll you never know what your going to get lot to lot with most of these ammunitions anymore. Hell I pay good money for Lapua Long Range and it’s been so inconsistent lately it’s disgusting. You almost have to shoot 5 groups with your intended ammunition before each video to predict how it will perform. I simply can’t afford that.

[@chrisbailor733]

I hear that….. Keep up the good content I enjoy your work

[@RimfireSS]

@@chrisbailor733 thank man. I appreciate it!

[@richardleith6192]

I notice there is a breeze blowing and with my experience with 22 LR and 22 magnum i don't know why anyone would try target shooting with any wind at all as it has a huge effect on the trajectory. Richie

[@RimfireSS]

If I waited for the wind to stop blowing I’d never make any videos. Lol, this is reality, if you can’t learn how to shoot in the wind your not a very good shooter.

[@geordiegeorge9041]

This test perfectly explains why I got myself a CZ 457 MTR 20",it shoots great out of the box. A friend of mine bought a RPR, and he had to invest a small fortune to get it to shoot. And still my CZ shoots better. A small side note, the barrel on the RPR was incorrectly installed when he bought the rifle.

[@RimfireSS]

The Cz457 is a fantastic value for everything you get, beautiful wood, smooth action, great adjustable trigger, accurate 20” match barrel and a fit and finish that is as good as it gets! Can’t ask for more for $800 bucks! For $1200 really….

[@espkh1549]

Buy the RPR shoots magnum

[@geordiegeorge9041]

@@espkh1549 Yes the RPR shoots magnum, but you have to spend too much money to get it to shoot straight. Plus the CZ also can be fitted with a .22 magnum barrel, and the build quality is far superior.

[@espkh1549]

@@geordiegeorge9041 it’s so sad to see a made in the USA gun is not as good as a gun made in a third world country

[@geordiegeorge9041]

@@espkh1549 And what do you consider the US to be. The infant mortality rate in the US is double that of the Czech Republic.

[@Fisherhunt56]

Why not have your group print an inch high? I like hollow dot to always see the center. I have a basic CZ WITH 24 inch bbl print .24

[@RimfireSS]

Sometimes I forget to adjust the scope.

[@kenf2662]

Bad Ammo + Caffeine = Not the Guns

[@markturboi]

Don't shoot out your point of aim when shooting groups.

[@wowguy3562]

Yes and no. He was making some adjustments to better hit near the point of aim, between groups. As far as I can tell, he wasn't making adjustments for wind during the 5 shot groups, but probably trying to time shots to the most consistent conditions. I do agree, if you are making wind / elevation adjustments during the string of fire, it isn't a valid group. I have nothing to add, he explained and demonstrated the test perfectly, at least to me he did, thanks for the video, I like my mtr too

[@kybbe112]

​@@wowguy3562 The point of the original commenter was propably that shooting groups POA/POI makes it inconsistent after the aiming reference is gone.

[@wowguy3562]

@@kybbe112 Yes and no. To an untrained eye, they would think the groups are totally different. To me, 5 rounds is 5 rounds, like doing a tall target test, taking into account the turrets are correct. But I do agree, don't mess with turrets during a test, it takes error out of the equation. He wasn't shooting for bulls, he was shooting groups, and trying to keep the groups located for reference to the nearest 1"dot, I really enjoyed his video, thanks for the comment. edit. - he clearly showed when he was making adjustments to his scope, so yes, if just looking at before / after photos, you would definitely see a POI change not knowing adjustments were made

[@kybbe112]

@@wowguy3562 I have no idea how i could say it anymore clearly. If the dot where he used to put his crosshairs, is not there anymore, it is bad for the group. Propably fell to a troll but i try one more time.

[@wowguy3562]

@@kybbe112 Its all good, I enjoy shooting and talking about it, sometimes I don't know when to quit. Take care nice talking with ya

[@anthonyfairbanks2952]

That cz shoots lights out

[@Win52D]

On the Ruger I noticed that every time you had a shot that opened up the group it looked and sounded like a rough feed. The bolt hung slightly before chambering the round...maybe your deforming the nose slightly?

[@RimfireSS]

I watched the video again and didn’t notice that, I’m sure it was the ammo. But, out of all my rifles the Ruger is the roughest feeding by far. And it’s not the action, without a loaded magazine inserted the action feels pretty good. Those 15 round mags have a lot of spring pressure and that rough feeling is the bolt dragging the round that’s going into the chamber across the round beneath it, it creases the case and the bullet. I’m actually surprised it shoots as well as it does. I probably should have been using the 10 rounders as the spring pressure is adjustable and when adjusted properly it feels much better.

[@juliusjames5577]

Find the best lot for each rifle and redo test. My cz shoots great with a specific lot of center-x. My other cz really likes a lot of SK pistol match.

[@RimfireSS]

Nah, I’m good. The CZ shoots better with more ammunition then the Ruger. I’ve shot both enough to know that.

[@juliusjames5577]

I would have enjoyed seeing that testing. Still a good video👍

[@RimfireSS]

@@juliusjames5577 I would love to shoot videos a couple of times but with the cost of ammo it’s just not possible. I’m pretty much self funded as I’ve yet to get anyone to join my Patreon. I haven’t really mentioned it on any of my videos but it’s always in the description. But with how little us Guntubers get paid for watch time hours the monthly checks are not even enough to buy a brick of Lapua Long Range. Hopefully It will pay off someday but right now it’s a huge financial drain.

[@juliusjames5577]

I hear ya.

[@tyson2066]

first thanks alot sir ❤ Second...i have cz457 thumbhole do you think a bullet (asellier & bellot ) is suitable of my rifle

[@RimfireSS]

All I can say is try it, you never know what will shoot well unless you do.

[@tyson2066]

​@@RimfireSS of course ❤

[@royhubbard9075]

Tim - ney, not timiney, love Your channel btw.

[@RimfireSS]

It’s one of those slips, I know how it’s pronounced but miss pronounce it regularly. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Poepeestar]

I want that scope cam

[@Thayes1979]

Find a box that works and look at the lot number you may be able to order that lot number. I would bet that these boxes are from different lots.

[@RimfireSS]

Same lot number. That was the first thing I checked.

[@Rockrewls]

Ammo definitely screwed this test. Nice try though.

[@RimfireSS]

Sure did.

[@tomforeman4976]

Did you just say you could shoot better than a .25 with the cz compered to what you done withe the coustom ruger. Thanks i just ordered my cz elite and going to thead the barrel for anything i want to put on it.

[@RimfireSS]

The CZ is a much better rifle. No doubt.

[@freddybeem2322]

Do you have a y videos of the original stock RPR .

[@RimfireSS]

Nope, never even fired it in stock configuration, bought everything together and took it apart as soon as I got it. Sorry

[@supersixx9916]

I hit 1moa or less with my CZ457 varmint synthetic without any problem, with RWS Rifle Match or SK Rifle Match on 100m

[@RimfireSS]

Hard to beat the CZ457 in any configuration. That Varmint Synthetic is a great rifle for the price.

[@michaelo5400]

I own around 25 rimfire rifle. The three most accurate are 1) CZ. 2) CZ. 3) CZ. I own three CZ rifles. They are all unmodified. I agree ammo was an issue, but your CZ is clearly the more accurate rifle and will be with every box of ammo.

[@scott3708]

It seems that .22LR precision shooting rifle is moot because if $25 a box of 50 ammo can't be consistent, no upgrade or bazillion dollar rifle matters. This Lapua is supposedly the best there is and still it cannot be consistent. The CZ cost's twice what the Ruger PRS costs and still no better if ammo is at fault. They just opened a Academy sports 20 minutes away and I'm off for a Ruger PRS on sale at $429 Black Friday!

[@RimfireSS]

Well….. that’s not a factory Ruger either.. and the better the rifle the better it will shoot a wider range of ammunition. Unfortunately even with the best ammunition .22 can be inconsistent. But as far as the Lapua L/R being the best there is that simply is not true. And it’s not $25 a box. It’s $15 so good luck with that Ruger, most people are disappointed.

[@mlone7]

I was out at the range with my CZ 455 and a guy told me to throw on a Ultradyne Apollo Max and it would be more accurate. I happened to have one and threw it on and my groups tightened up. Who would have thunk it?

[@RimfireSS]

I did a video on my BMR a couple weeks ago, I put a EC tuner on it and never adjusted it and it totally changed the rifle. Just the weight on the end of that barrel made such a difference it was unbelievable. That weight on the barrel tames the harmonics and really improves the performance.

[@mlone7]

@@RimfireSS hmm....never thought about that but that Ultradyne is heavy so it goes along with what you are saying. I never asked that guy why he said Ultradyne instead of any of the others? I bet it had something to do with the weight.

[@RimfireSS]

@@mlone7 it absolutely did. Not like there’s a ton of recoil to tame. I have a Ultradyne on my 6arc. Love it! Good stuff.

[@mlone7]

@@RimfireSS I emailed you

[@johnhermsen6456]

O by the way ammo same here i love the lapua long range but not the super long range strange more expensive and worse

[@RimfireSS]

Don’t make sense does it? I’ve had good lots and bad lots of Long Range also. But not luck with super.

[@bradh74]

Does the RPR use the same barrel as the 10/22? (design/spec) If so that would sell those rifles because of how easy they would be to modify. Probably cheaper too.

[@RimfireSS]

Totally different platform. Same magazine but that’s it.

[@jturner5227]

Good video. Too bad you didn't have more of the good ammo for all the tests.

[@RimfireSS]

I know. I went through about $100 in ammo for that video too. And half of it was crap.

[@SameerKhan-gm4ny]

Thats mean pcp airguns have advantage over .22lr. Airguns can be adjusted for power and slug weights

[@RimfireSS]

Nah, every video I’ve ever seen when the .22 has been put up against the airgun the .22 almost always wins. Don’t get me wrong, I do think eventually the air rifle will overtake the .22 in power and accuracy but I would rather carry thousands of rounds of .22 than a scuba tank and lead bullets.

[@SameerKhan-gm4ny]

@@RimfireSS both have some advantages and disadvantages

[@johngarrett6256]

Just think what you would of shot with ammo the cz liked

[@RimfireSS]

Yeah I agree, I need to lot test the rifle. I have found a majority of my rifles like SK, usually when trying to keep things even I try to use something that will shoot good in both rifle.

[@Brentor14]

Why a muzzle break on a 22 because it looks sweet that’s why I’m putty a single chamber break on my ruger LRT

[@stevebutler8387]

What cheek rest did you use on the CZ please?

[@RimfireSS]

It’s the Victor Titan.

[@stevebutler8387]

@@RimfireSS thank you very much

[@brianfoltz-p9y]

How much $ in the ruger vs the cz? Ammo fret is real. I have a die that creates target ammo out of ordinary bricks.$$$

[@RimfireSS]

Idk, quite abit more into the Ruger actually. What die do you have?

[@Checo1]

Have you ever tried the RPR with the rotating 10 rds magazine, I've heard that with those magazines it has a little more consistency.

[@RimfireSS]

Yeah, I have, they cycle alittle smoother but accuracy seems the same. I’ve even tested it. The 25 round mags are the problem with accuracy.

[@tferrill8748]

Definitely looks like 2 different barrels on the Mtr

[@RimfireSS]

What??? 😂 you’re kidding right?

[@rodrigorezende7377]

What’s this device above your scope?

[@RimfireSS]

It’s a Trigger Cam for recording through your scope.

[@rodrigorezende7377]

@@RimfireSS tks a lot. I’ll find

[@clarson2916]

Was all of the ammo the same lot number?

[@RimfireSS]

Yeah it was.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Did you put the LLR over a chronograph to see if the issues are showing up there?

[@RimfireSS]

That was the last 2 boxes I had, so no I didn’t. Velocities in the winter are all over the place also. I have a couple boxes of SLR left but I think I just got a couple of bad bricks (lots) wouldn’t be the first time and I’m sure it won’t be the last.

[@joeyfren1748]

Does it cost too much to put 5 dots on the paper and just shoot once at each?

[@Pipizzakitchen]

The idea is to set how close you can get your groups.

[@fppro1679]

Are those 2-in orange bullseye?

[@RimfireSS]

Not sure if there 2-in one but there the 1” orange sticker targets made by just about everyone that makes targets. You can get a pretty good deal on them on Amazon.

[@stanclapper7179]

Does anyone know which shoots better, a stock 22 RPR or stock 457. Understanding ammo variables? Looking to buy but not interested in a build yet. Still learning.

[@RimfireSS]

Out of the box hands down the CZ is better.

[@markberenbrok627]

Do you have a video on the rpr build

[@RimfireSS]

No not really, just a few videos featuring it.

[@roberthavens7700]

So. Different boxes were different lots?

[@RimfireSS]

Same lot just very bad consistency box to box. I would get a box that was fantastic, then the next box would have many over and under charged rounds. Was even worse with the super long range.

[@bradwillis6457]

What optic are you running on the cz?

[@RimfireSS]

That’s the Riton Conquer 5. Very nice optic. If your interested in one I just got a discount code. RimFireSS think it’s worth 15%

[@thaison1882]

Thanks

[@RimfireSS]

Thank you! Wish there were more people like you.

[@Rob-100]

Why did you not keep the Ruger standard like the CZ it’s an unfair comparison I feel.try SK ammo I used it on my Ruger 455 and Anschutz supper match.

[@RimfireSS]

That’s the whole point of the video…. You have to modify the Ruger to the hilt to even get close to how the CZ shoots. I didn’t keep the Ruger stock because it didn’t shoot very good. I suppose I could have sold it.

[@Rob-100]

@@RimfireSS thanks for your reply. I must pay more attention to the subject then. As I missed the point. Have you tried SK rounds?

[@RimfireSS]

@@Rob-100 yep, all of them

[@tactic-AL]

What barrel is that on the ruger ?

[@RimfireSS]

It’s a Shaw 18”

[@tactic-AL]

@@RimfireSS thanks 🙏🏾

[@TheWheels1965]

HI, do you weight your ammo.

[@RimfireSS]

Not anymore, never had good enough results to make it worthwhile.

[@ronaldroehrick4872]

Not a fair comparison without using the same batch of ammo.

[@RimfireSS]

Explain? I did use the same lot, it was very inconsistent box to box.