I tried a Matte WOLED 4K 240Hz Monitor... (LG 32GS95UE)

[@jvlivsakamaxiaid]

As a European citizen it's crazy to me that delivery companies in the US will just drop your package in front of your door and leave with no notice whatsoever. P.S. Talking from Spain. Over here the courier will usually ring your doorbell and wait for about 30 seconds, call your phone number if unresponsive, then proceed to come back at a different time or leave the parcel at a post office. They might try to squeeze the package in your mail box or even leave it at a neighbor's house, but they will NOT drop it and leave.

[@madant7777]

Just wanted to say the same, completely wrong "don't care" approach. And if someone steals or damages it, it's your fault. It is not a real delivery, it's a drop.off.

[@FIVESTRZ]

Nah, they take a picture to cover their own bases lol

[@bakakafka4428]

Belgium here. I'm pleasantly surprised they took the effort to drop it in the back yard. Here they just leave it clearly visible dumped on the front door porch. So it's not great here in the EU either.

[@OhhMomo]

I suppose it depends on who’s delivering but I would say you are correct for a majority deliveries

[@dnakatomiuk]

Amazon do it in the UK even if you have said don't leave they still do, they used to do a thing where it would say it's out for delivery. And you could then send it to a locker if it would fit but it never does now, if you want it to a locker you have to select it as a delivery address

[@Lum004]

I'm going to check my backyard right now to see if I have any OLED monitors being hidden back there. 😅

[@fierybl4de400]

ill go check ur backyard 2

[@RockSaysPaperOP]

I have this monitor and I absolutely love it. I have also had glossy OLEDs , but I love this one. I prefer not to see reflections in glossy monitors as I find them distracting. I also have windows directly behind me that face south, and a wife that insists on leaving the blackout curtains open during the day. I haven't watched this video yet but I am going to assume you love it. Don't disappoint me!

[@BatteryBee]

Honestly, the matte coating doesn't sound too bad - especially if it helps disperse reflections during the day. I don't like the idea of having my curtains shut 24/7, just to accommodate a glossy screen.

[@cotasa]

But matte colors look dead

[@BatteryBee]

@@cotasa and I'd feel like death if I were to sit in the dark all day.

[@User-ys7cb]

@@cotasa It doesn't really affect the colors at all. A glossy coating doesn't make a TN panel look good.

[@attepatte8485]

@@BatteryBee glossy does not mean sunlight will ruin the image! that happens to qd-oled... Literally all oled tvs are glossy and they are used in living rooms with sunlight.

[@BatteryBee]

@@attepatte8485 'Image ruining' isn't my main concern, more so the presence of distracting reflections.

[@MA-jz4yc]

Did you look at blur busters and compare the modes? The most noticable advantage of 480hz is being able to track fast moving objects clearly without any persistence blur.

[@JayJayYUP]

The video example he show in Call of Duty wasn't even running at 480+ fps.. for 480Hz to work, you need to have the framerate that high.. so the A/B test he conducted was simply invalid.

[@opfreak]

@@JayJayYUPthis guy isnt good enough to notice a difference regardless optimum is the only one with a good review on it atm.

[@noidsuper]

The fact that you have to do the UFO test to see an appreciable difference between refresh rates is pretty indicative of how little refresh rates past that 120-144hz range matter for the average user. It's like he said, unless you're hypersensitive to it, or are a CS/Valorant sweat you just won't see/feel that big of a difference. Similar story to those vaunted OLED response times - the difference between that and a monitor with ok response times just isn't very perceptible for the average user.

[@artemas7076]

I ended up getting the AW3225QF- 32 inch 4k 240 hz QD Oled with glossy finish and love it so far. I do use along side a 42 inch C2 but definitely notice better colors on the QD-Oled but to be honest, both screens are fantastic for gaming. The Lg model is appealing but I'd never use the 1080-480hz mode and you definitely pay a premium for that, cool feature however

[@AiBot3777]

I've had the same experience too with my C2 and aw2725df, I really like the yellows and pure reds in comparison to my C2 which looks either slightly orange or pink in comparison but both are great

[@artemas7076]

Agreed, while the QD pops more, both look absolutely amazing

[@S1L3nCe]

One thing that I've noticed is that when you activate the 480Hz mode, there is a substantial reduction in latency. It is not just the 2 ms reduction due to a higher refresh rate (240Hz -> 4.16 ms // 480 Hz -> 2.08 ms) but there also seems to be less signal processing because my reaction time goes from an average of 155 ms at 240 Hz to 145 ms at 480 Hz. I obviously can't tell the difference in latency while using the two modes (10 ms difference is just too small to notice it) but my RT results are definitely 10 ms better on average.

[@dragonman7069]

lol at 10:30, the camera is struggling to keep proper contrast due to idle monitor motion

[@BlackJesus8463]

nerd

[@MaxxPlay99]

@@BlackJesus8463well, we all are… This a a nerd channel.

[@TechOverwrite]

​@@MaxxPlay99exactly, nothing wrong with that 😊 That guy should look at some of the comments on LTT videos - they'll have hundreds of comments in minutes about a single dead pixel in one shot, for example (and I can't see the dead pixel even after studying it for ages 😅)

[@justwanttocomment12]

I watched your video using my 32 MSI QD-OLED monitor (MPG 321URX). Essentially had the same thought process. Big fan of the channel. I find a lot of value and honesty from your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@carlji]

Do you find the not-true-black annoying?

[@justwanttocomment12]

@carlji it's a non-issue. Even for my QD-OLED TV.

[@Sevapcici]

I also have that monitor for around one month now and I totally agree with the 480Hz mode. I don't notice a difference at all. However, I also never noticed the "dirt" from the matte finish. Now that you say it, yeah, I can see what you mean. But I honestly don't see it, if I am not looking for it. I also use the monitor for work (lots of text) and I also like to work with daylight, so I feel for people like me a glossy version just won't work. Furthermore I really like the minimalist design. Slim bezels, no logo, no cringe gamer republic stuff etc. It looks great in my office, lol.

[@jrlivingspaces]

That's my thing too I love the design and the rest of the features except the slight grain. I have the Alienware 32in and the LG side by side testing them both and yeah the qd-oled side by side looks sharper than the LG due to the coating. But I have been having issues cleaning out smudges off the alienware to the point where I have a small spot that when its a complete black the reflection looks a different color and i have not been able to get it off. I kinda rather deal with a grainy coating than permanent splotches and blemishes on the display cuz it doesn't clean easily if at all.

[@User-ys7cb]

@@jrlivingspaces The QD-OLED monitors have lots of issues: Vertical lines when moving the camera in games (most people don't notice but I do), raised blacks, very sensitive coating, worse VRR flickering and the usual Samsung QC issues. Also, I have dealt with some actual "grainy coatings" before, mostly on TN panels. Let me tell you that the LG's coating is not grainy.

[@housr]

@@User-ys7cb ah thanks man! I was thinking about my last TN panel and the coating was horrendous, and was worried it was going to be a part two. Will probably pick this up then.

[@uncannygambit]

In Sweden the MSI ones are the same price as the LG. So here you are only choosing between 480 Hz or not + Matte Vs. Glossy.

[@TheGrace020]

Hemska priser här 😢

[@Simon_Denmark]

QDOLED isn’t actually fully glossy though, I would call it semi glossy.

[@ehdbom]

@@TheGrace020förutom på AW3225QF

[@hinatashoyo2999]

Overpriced garbage man....

[@faultier1158]

Yeah, same here in Germany. I chose the WOLED one because I don't want to sit a dark room just to have good black levels.

[@tiromandal6399]

Finally! I've been asking about it what seems like forever now!

[@adamtajhassam9188]

i still use 1 1440p 34 inch panel 4 youtubing were i use my oled too asus mind you 4 gaming what a responsive difference the update firmware 1.05 helpped hdr but the screen looks better w it off.

[@tiromandal6399]

@@adamtajhassam9188 What? It looks better with HDR off? That's only when watching SDR content.

[@gn0stica536]

Since I'm in a light room, this LG OLED was way better. Had thé Asus 240hz one (glossy qd oled) but with all the light in my room the blacks were Grey. No such things with this monitor. I love it.

[@ATestamentToTech]

When moving from 240 to 480, to get the full advantage and really notice it, peripherals like final mouse and wooting are needed.

[@AyyyGabagool]

About half a year ago I snatched up a 144hz 32" 4K MiniLED that has 1000 dimming zones for around 700 bucks. ALL of the equivalent OLEDs were astronomically priced comparatively at the time. It does HDR 1000 content really well, but it definitely falls short in some ways with very small brightly light objects on a dark background. I'm DEFINTIELY going for OLED for my next monitor upgrade in a few years, and hopefully by then prices will be a lot more reasonable.

[@Son37Lumiere]

Your monitor is better for one very big reason, no burn in. All OLED monitors will suffer from burn in if you use them for anything other than videos or games. Even games can cause burn in due to the static HUDs if played for long enough periods of time.

[@AyyyGabagool]

@@Son37Lumiere ah yes! That was another big consideration in my decision to go with miniLED. OLEDs have come leaps and bounds in terms of burn in resistance over the years, but they still aren't perfect and it's just an inevitable part of the nature of OLED... Im hoping that the panels are even better in the future, but I don't think we will ever have completely burn-in proof OLEDs unless something fundamental is changed about the technology

[@msg360]

@@Son37Lumiere the newer Oleds espcially samsung have built in burn in protection, and there are ways to get around to protecting burn in

[@normi0]

Gotta share the goods with the people! What monitor did you get?

[@MrIagainsti120]

@@msg360 Yeah but is it really worth the extra hassle? With mini LED i don't have to worry about burn-in. Every OLED will burn-in eventually without exception. I don't want to get used to looking at a burned in screen even a little bit.

[@Amp_Edition]

I personally love glossy finish on my c2, I do have a controlled lighting room. Iv tried the mat finished 27 240hz oled, didn't care for them and tried the QDOLED and it was better but still not the pure gloss like the TV. Everyone likes something different and I suspect we won't ever get a pure glossy finish on monitors, so if you like gloss go for the QDOLED.

[@ThunderingRoar]

Asus has a glossy WOLED, its last gen 1440p 240hz panel tho

[@User-ys7cb]

The QD-OLED monitors use a crappy semi-glossy coating that is insanely hard to clean and scratches easily. The Asus XG27AQDMG coating is better.

[@Amp_Edition]

@User-ys7cb iv already tried one, it's easy to clean. Micro fiber cloth slightly damp and have zero scratches.

[@bournechupacabra]

The 32 in monitor should definitely have higher luminance than the LG C1. Apparently there are high and low brightness modes so maybe check if you're in the right mode. Otherwise, it might just be a perception thing because the bigger screen means more photons even if the luminance (brightness per unit area) is lower.

[@Lightning9060]

The larger screens like the LG C series can get brighter because the pixels are physically bigger, and can emit far more light. It's a function of the PPI, essentially more PPI = Smaller Pixels = Less light. Im sure they could probably improve their voltage control and stuff in the near future, but don't expect them to drastically change.

[@toddsimone7182]

From what I researched in ultrawide oleds, the new LG Ultragear branded monitors have a heavier matte coating than other displays that use the same LG 240hz panel that have more of a standard matte finish like in the Asus PG34 and both being W-OLEDs. I almost bought the 34" Ultragear as it's on sale for about $725 shipped with a promo code from $1300 but passed it up due to the coating and the excessive curve. Personally I'd like to find one with a glossy finish since I'm not in a bright environment and I think it just looks better overall.

[@user-pi4qo3zc2e]

I saw the same WOLED matte finish issue as this video talked about: bright screens such as light blue sky look very bad with matte coating. It kind of creates tiny rainbow lights all over the place, but uniform strong color does not suffer from it, so it only applies to pastel colors and anything white. I have learned to tolerate it but it is still occasionally annoying, and early on I spent a lot of time wondering why the screen looks so bad and did I get a faulty unit. I used to have an WOLED TV with glossy finish and you might need to keep the components of your gaming system black or keep the TV at a distance to minimize reflections, but it offers far superior image quality in proper conditions. However, either option is still a clear update over LED, the real blacks make a night and day difference in dark games. Also, any monitor with a fan sucks.

[@Krenisphia]

I have the AW3423DW QD-OLED ultrawide and that's essentially the end-game monitor for me. It's absolutely perfect for my use case, which is playing exclusively single-player games and watching movies/videos. I honestly can't think of anything that can improve this monitor.

[@paul2609]

Yes monitor reviews!

[@briando8150]

Top 0.1% experience here! (for osu! and counter strike) I actually benefit a lot from the 480hz, but not in the traditional way more hz is better. As a gamer for over a decade, I think after 144hz, it starts hitting diminishing returns. OLEDs being 0.03ms also makes the latency of the 240hz and the 480hz modes to be the similar/same to me. However, the 480hz is great for me cuz of the motion clarity. Games like Valorant, Overwatch, and osu! to me have much more noticeable clarity. To me it's almost like looking at perfect crisp lines. It almost feels like black frame insertion, but without it. More hz doesn't "feel" better (even 60hz OLED can actually feel low latency because of the panel tech). But the added benefit of seeing things more "crisp" is that I feel I can click heads more snappily. It's not that 480hz is giving me skill improvements, I still have to practice at the game for that. I just feel more refined; at my max potential more easily. For example, in shooters I had so many moments of "wtf how did that miss, it looked like I hit them!" And while my skill isn't necessarily better, I actually feel like I'm clicking their heads and it's registering correctly now.

[@RafaelSilva-yv3oh]

After playing at 360fps for over a year. I can definitely tell 240hz. Used to not be able to, but you get used to it. I'm waiting for the 1440p 480hz 27 oled to upgrade. Or the MSI mini-LED 500hz 1440p if it ever comes out. But 32" is just too huge for FPS, 27" is already big, but since no one seems to be making 1440p in 25" format, there's no other choice.

[@Quast]

Uhhh, a 32" 5K 240Hz with 1440p 480Hz would be nice! ^ii^ Though I don't know if would actually use the 1440p @32" at this point, I think I wouldn't like the ppi. ^^"

[@yesyes-om1po]

@@Quast 1440p is disgusting to my eyes after being used to 4k for so long, trust me, you'll pine for 4k

[@Quast]

@@yesyes-om1po I actually would really like to see a pixel perfect scaling of 1440p on 5K screen ^^

[@kenshirogenjuro873]

Very useful info. I'll be keeping it in mind whenever I get around to a non-LCD monitor. As of right now my monitor still spends a lot more time on non-gaming stuff, (internet emails etc) while I do all my gaming on full-size OLED and plasma screens, but at some point whenever OLED or some comparable tech is sufficiently resistant to burn-in, pizel fatigue, etc, I'm definitely making the switch. Love them black spaces.

[@photonboy999]

NO anti-reflective coating is also a problem in DARK ROOMS sometimes. My 55" G2 is in a small bedroom. At NIGHT the only light source is the OLED TV. However, it then REFLECTS off the walls and so I still get reflections that cause problems. It's WEIRD because if the scene is MOSTLY dark I can't notice as there's INSUFFICIENT light to get reflected back. Anyway, DARK WALLS and NO Windows is what you may want for the ideal experience.

[@Hybred]

12:22 yeah 1080p at 32in is insanely low pixel density. 24in 1080p is definetly serviceable as long as you don't mind losing screen real estate. However I do have to point out the fact that in the game you showed off you never hit 480fps and even if you did your FPS is all over the place. So your'e more or less comparing 240hz vs 350hz it seems. I hope you tried/tested games you can fully utilized the 480hz mode.

[@danielowentech]

I tested for hours, the footage was just quick b-roll I shot for the video.

[@abc-ni9lp]

Yes too many people belives that only refresh rate is enough to fully utilize that monitor. True he needs 480fps to take advantage of 480Hz. And Lossless Scaling is perfect for that task with 240fps base x2 or 160fps X3 mode.

[@Hybred]

@@danielowentech alright good to know, thanks for the clarification! I thought you never reached 480fps, it's certainly hard to achieve anyways so it's pretty niche.

[@cantti]

Are you sure the 480Hz mode actually activates like that while in-game? In many games, the game detects your display's capabilities when you boot it up, and changing the monitor's refresh rate mid-game won't necessarily apply it correctly. My advice would be to switch to the 480Hz mode before starting the game executable to ensure it's fully enabled. However, as you said 240Hz oled is already very fast. The visual difference between 1080p and 4K is possibly much more impactful at that stage. Still, 480Hz should make quite a noticeable difference in competitive titles if the frames are there.

[@TheFirestorm240]

Was looking forward to this review.

[@mannyc19]

My wife and I bought the MSI 321URX, and love it.

[@BriBCG]

Interesting, I've never found my matte screen to be distracting. The reflections in my previous semi gloss display on the other hand were extremely distracting.

[@BlackJesus8463]

Same.

[@okie7812]

Agree. I work on a matte screen 8/10 hours a day, come home game/browse on a glossy screen. I have no preference. Guess only preference is Oled. Oled will spoil you beyond measure.

[@Vextime77]

Bad eyesight.

[@meeee32156]

i sold the 27 inch 1440p one and got the 32 inch 4k alienware oled. i'll never get a matte finish again. i read the complaints before i got it. i got it and didn't really even see it...till i did see it and no thanks. any solid color like sky or white areas especially had a weird shimmery kinda look. the colors itself were fantastic though. just subbed, you helped me decide on monitors a couple times now so thanks! (the video on 4k vs 1440p was really helpful. was nervous about going 4k with a 4080...but dlss is great)

[@HellSpawnRulerOfHell]

13:10 The display isn't at 480Hz if you're not getting 480FPS.

[@ArthurM1863]

I thought I was going to be fine with a matte screen and dont notice any difference, and for the most part I didnt. But there is definitely a quality loss vs a glossier screen. The main thing I noticed is just shiny things look better on a glossier screen. Things like metal, wet surfaces, they really look more lifelike compared to a matte screen, which make those things a bit dull.

[@GAI3E_]

Thank you for this video and your honesty. Been loosing sleep thinking about these small details of my glossy Monitor coming in.

[@Profato]

I notice a huuuge difference between both 120 -> 240 and 240 -> 480 - the motion clarity and responsiveness are on a different level for each doubling of the refresh rate.

[@mikepondsmith6699]

You should consider either the LG G4 or Samsung S90C/D for the channel. Either gives easily the best hdr experience with nearly triple the brightness of any current 4k 240hz monitors. Would be great coverage to see your opinions!

[@nyramz2034]

finally it dropped thanks my g

[@Superdazzu2]

switched from a lg 27gp850 (1440p nano ips) to a alienware aw3423dwf (600 euros refurbished, a steal) and the image quality is just on another levels, oled just is the end game if not playing directly in front of a window

[@mypeeps1965]

PS, you need a wider desk front to back. Those 20" desks are great for productivity but horrible at gaming especially with an ultra wide oled Monitor. I use a traditional 4x8 desktop with a 2 pc setup and have not had the issues you described.

[@11Icazo22]

It's actually interesting because the Samsung G80SD with a matte coating doesn't have this issue and that's QD-OLED. I wonder if it has to due with the matte coating specifically or with WOLED

[@GamersSanctum]

I got this monitor as well. I agree with just about everything also except I really don't care about the matte vs glossy finish. I came from a aw3423dw and the jump in res isn't that great. I think I'll either get the 27" 1440p 360hz qd oled or the 27" 480hz 1440p once it comes out

[@hellmalm]

In my humble opinion a 4K monitor shouldn’t be more than 27” due to ppi any bigger than that and you can see the individual pixels, when viewed at arms length at a desk. Larger sizes are obviously ok for tv’s with much more distance between you and the screen. Seeing pixels definitely destroys immersion and should be avoided at all cost. Yes, I know driving a 4K image is much more taxing on your graphics and might require an upgrade. But I’m not discussing costs here only visual fidelity. Also go for a HDR 600 minimum you deserve it!

[@nuruddinpeters9491]

Daniel, after watching many of your vids over the years, including Hardware Unboxed, I recently received my ASUS pg32ucdm. You're right, from previous LCD Gsync panel 144hz owner, OD-LED is night and day, and i love the glossy look! Quick question, how does one clean these screens proper? I hear the glossy OLED displays scratch easily, and I'm terrified and will probably never dust it off. Can you perhaps perform a 2-5min demonstration for cleaning maybe (Glossy and Matte)? 14700k and 4090 couldn't be happier to be on a native 4k monitor, before i was using DLDSR on Acer Predator 1440p monitor for many years. Thanks mate!

[@NearynHub]

Going from 42 or 48 inch to 32 is comparable to breast reduction...you could also Mount your display to the wall or get an other bench, so you can sit further away. Currently 55 inch wall mount here as monitor - sitting 1.8m away. Will never go smaller again!

[@chrisjmv]

I have been using this monitor (LG 32GS95UX-B) for over 2 weeks, it is not a bad device, but the advantages of an OLED (if you are used to LG c2, c3 or Apple displays like the Studio Display or PRO XDR) do not really come into their own. Glass or glossy would simply make the colors pop much more and the font would also be much sharper on the LG 32GS95UX-B. I hope LG brings out one with a glossy coating for the next model at the level of the LG C series models, that would simply be a DREAM!

[@cirmothe9]

You should turn off the autoexposure on your camera. It keeps dimming every time your wallpaper gets too bright.

[@arg_9584]

I got the new Samsung 32’ 4k OLED 240Hz on launch week and so far loving it coming from a basic 4k 60Hz Roku tv!

[@Gustel]

congrats!

[@msg360]

got the same love the tv mode

[@arg_9584]

@@msg360 yeah me too, that’s the main reason I picked it up along with the built in cloud gaming support.

[@SKYzLxmit]

The Samsungs matte is severely bad I don’t know if you’ve seen its competitors up close for this gen panel but you’ll definitely see “what could had been”

[@oakfig]

Bro you should do some live game streams and answer chats questions. We'd love it!!

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

still queuing i guess

[@Skylancer727]

The monitors are known to be far dimmer than the full size TVs. I'm assuming that because they're new to PC they lowered their brightness just to counter the higher odds of burn in which is covered under warranty. That may change in the next 3 years though with the companies gaining confidence from units in the wild.

[@sudd3660]

i had the last years 27" 1440p woled and now the 32" 2160p qoled. cost me almost the same... the glossy has many benefits over the woled, but the drawbacks has to be known to potential buyers. the gloss coating is a soft/sticky plastic film, careful to scratch it(no it is not the peel off stuff). brightness is a bit lower on highlights, and are more colorful, but not sure if i like it. glossy means mirror reflections.

[@Vuzdorlva]

Awesome video dude, considering this monitor myself. One flaw with your A / B testing, though, is your system isn't pushing 480+ FPS in either scenario, and if you've got G-Sync/VRR on, it's going to make the impact even less noticeable. Also, in CoD, I believe the Hz is 'fixed' in game options, so when you switch, you'd have to go into game settings and then manually select the newly accessible "480hz" range. Keep up the good work 👍

[@DrakonR]

@@Vuzdorlva the reality is it's not that big of a difference. Diminishing returns is exponential.

[@Vuzdorlva]

@DrakonR depends on your view point I guess but why not max it out and actually get a real feel for it and really stretch it's legs? I can immediately notice and feel a difference maxing out my 360hz, it's night and day for me.

[@DrakonR]

@@Vuzdorlva it's not. You've been told it is so your mind plays tricks on you. The power of marketing.

[@Vuzdorlva]

@DrakonR I get it. You might not be capable, but I can assure you, I know and feel the difference, I can literally see it.

[@DrakonR]

@@Vuzdorlva lol. I'm sensitive enough to be affected by OLED flicker. People prove every day how effective marketing is. Thanks for the reinforcement. 👍

[@TheBeerHunter7]

Thanks for this review super helpful and sorry to hear with that matte finish, i’d been debating the LG for sometime but i’ll be going for the Alienware now (4-500 cheaper in Europe!) i think a lot of reviewers played down that matte finish and brightness issues with this LG monitor that are now becoming apparent as more of the mass market get their hands on it. Which is a real shame

[@tcc1234]

In the gaming footage you were showing for 1080p @ 480 Hz, it seems that your game was hovering at around the 360 FPS mark. Why don't you showcase some titles like Valorant where you are locked at 480+ FPS mostly (considering you have the hardware for it)? I saw a lot of videos showcasing this monitor but all of them seem to be playing games that don't even come close to the 480 FPS limit that this monitor can push (480 Hz).

[@kathrynck]

I think around 36" to 42" is ideal for 4k. Although it depends on how close you sit, etc. I got a 32" because the monitor I wanted (neo G7, I'm still avoiding oled for now, mixed use) was just in that size, take it or leave it. And I needed "pro" level color & gamma accuracy. I found 32" to be a little too small for 4k... but was able to get it to work pretty well with a mounting-arm on the vesa mount, set so that it floats above the keyboard instead of behind it. This also somewhat mitigated the perceived 'curve' of the monitor, which really is overly aggressive. Semi-matte or semi-gloss are the way to go. Although brands and models vary a lot in the finish quality. And it depends on the room lighting too, yep. Also the pixel density affects how matte will look. If you have really high pixel density, a matte finish is more likely to make that 'moire' effect in bright areas. Pixel layout can affect it too (like WOLED vs OLED vs VA, etc). The ideal is "can't see the finish at all"... not as a reflection, and not as a distortion. That's not really possible. But the very best hybrid finishes come fairly close. I'd describe my neoG7 as "semi-matte", and at 32" 4k it's pixel density is 135ppi. "Normal" (loaded term that it is) is around 100-120 ppi, that's where your 19-21" 1080p's and 27/28" 1440p's are in pixel density. Anyway, 135 is a pretty high pixel density. The coating is very very good, but at 135ppi there IS a bit of perceptible moire from the matte finish with such a high pixel density. I do kinda wish this neoG7 was exactly the same in every way, except hit with a growth ray up to 38". That would alleviate the curve aggressiveness, and the slight moire, and look the best in terms of detail & unscaled text legibility. But really, I have to lean on pro-level monitor snobbiness to find complaints for it. Best monitor I've had.

[@erictayet]

I believe my old Acer gaming monitor had a matt finish and doing office work + video editing was very distracting. It's due to the moiré effect between the layers. I thought that it would be better in WOLED panels compared to LCD, so apparently not. That's why I insist on glossy screen with anti-reflective coating now. I would buy the Gigabyte. Just waiting for a good deal.

[@marcosvictor4935]

I think the real benefit of 480hz is being able to disable G-Sync/FreeSync and avoiding VRR flicker altogether while still not getting any Vsync stutter or increased latency and also no tearing at the same time.

[@miikahweb]

You can pretty much do that already at 240hz. I had problems with Nvidia Shadowplay recordings having random several second freezes which turned out happened only with G-sync active, so I tried with VRR disabled at 240hz and honestly I can't tell difference in smoothness. (Even though I could tell if g-sync was off with my previous 144hz monitor) At 60hz a duplicated frame will cause massive 16ms frame time variation which you can definitely see. 120hz is "only" 8ms which is still noticeable but not as bad. At 240hz its only 4ms which is hardly noticeable at all. (But of course 480hz will make it basically impossible to tell even if you really look for it)

[@marcosvictor4935]

@@miikahweb I dunno I actually don't have a 240hz monitor but I know a few of the games I play will go over 240fps at times if I let them (I have a fps cap set in NVIDIA's CL), if I'm looking at a wall or something. The 480hz is like a guarantee that at 1440p even with DLSS it will never tear even if I look at the sky or at a wall in the game and the framerate spikes. It's like a number that I'm not supposed or am hoping to reach, while 240hz is achievable at time and with some titles. I mean ofc if you're gonna play a 2D game or just an older game like half life 2 they will go over 480hz in modern hardware but they're also the games that you canenable Vsync, or just cap the framerate with the drivers or something it's not like they will be going under the 480fps often or at all so it will still be smooth.

[@ewmcdade]

I went to Microcenter the other day to check out OLED panels. All the monitors, including the OLEDS, looked like muted washed out crap compared to the Apple Studio display thanks to its glass screen and calibration. The Apple screen had a depth to the image that even OLED could not match. For reference, I own an LG OLED and previously Panasonic and Pioneer plasma tv.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

You compare a OLED monitor to a apple screen then you say for ref you have a LG OLED You would of been better ref a LG OLED TV to the OLED monitor. Fail beyond fail within fail

[@ewmcdade]

@@DETERMINOLOGY You can’t even write a coherent sentence.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

@@ewmcdade Its not my fault you dont know the diff between apple monitors and LG monitors but by looking at the name "@ewmcdade" you went random minded and it makes sense you would compare an LG monitor to apple monitors. Two different ballparks of their own

[@Marthos01]

I know the struggle as first adopter, have done this many times... anyway in this case (we're talking monitors) I went with the Samsung Neo G8 (MiniLED + VA) monitor owner within the first month of release (meaning paying premium 1400 euro directly via Samsung) It has a matte screen coating as well. It's probably better than LG's matte coating. But I can't say without seeing with my own eyes. I've learned to live with matte screen coatings. The most annoying thing about it I have to say is (like you mentioned) white backgrounds. But not just that... any HDR content with bright scenes where white or yellow is present ( for example the SUN DUH) I will always see the grain. You do get used to it and learn to ignore it. But it's there. The benefits ofc are no glare from RGB or windows. I have to say it's quite impressive in that regard. If I look at my current monitor and compare it to any 1440P 27inch monitor it's still sharper. And 240hz is nice.. but it's VA no matter what. And I also own a Steam Deck OLED with a 90hz panel. And whenever I look at it I always feel like it looks nice you know? ( it's the 1TB model with etched glass, matte glass or what nots) I'd love to try OLED some time at 32inch 4k 240hz but having brightness is also important. Not to mention cost of investment. I rather wait for microled at this point. My current setup in my game space is Neo G8 + G7 side monitor, TV in my bedroom with VA and miniled also. I might as well just ride it out. PC is running a 4090 and 7800x3d so high framerates are not a problem to compensate VA panel latency penalty vs OLED... I really want MicroLED to come soon. OLED needs to get brighter or else it's just lame imo. VA panel + MiniLED gets brighter and can deliver convincing scenes as long as the panel is calibrated properly and you have everything dialed in. I don't think there is much to say about it more. Future should be brighter.

[@HardyDimension]

Of course, it will be worse for 1080p in a 32" display. 1080p works best in 23.8" / 24". Many people say 1080p looks worse or something else, but I found that most of them are talking about 27" 1080p, and 23.8" 1080p looks sharp!

[@jrlivingspaces]

I'm kinda in your same shoes. I have the AW3225QF right now and have the LG32GS in its box. I have had them side by side testing different things and websites. Yes, the LG has that matte but its only a distraction on white backgrounds or really bright consistently white content. The AW32 however perfectly glossy, the curve doesn't really make a difference actually butttt those raised blacks man anddd the annoying coating is so easily smudged or scratched even with soft microfiber cloths. I spend almost an hour trying to get rid of an annoying oily finger print the other night and it became this gigantic smudge that finally came off with a bit of dish soap and a larger micro fiber cloth. But theres now a micro scratched up area there that I guess I have to live with for an $1000 monitor smh I'm still deciding between the 2 if I can get my brain to ignore the coating than LG but if not then I guess I'll stick with the alienware until better tech comes out smh! lol 1st world problems anyways love your vids!

[@jamesmadison3108]

I literally in the same boat as u. I have the LG and Alienware, both in boxes not yet open. Which u kept?

[@jrlivingspaces]

@@jamesmadison3108 kept the LG and couldn’t have been happier-easier to clean dust off, excellent blacks in all lighting conditions, just looks really nice no issues. No pixel cleaning pop ups it just does its thing when it’s in standby or you turn it off-I set in windows to turn off the screen in 5 minutes of no activity so that happens quite often and if a pixel cleaning is needed it’ll do its thing

[@jamesmadison3108]

@@jrlivingspaces nice. i have use the LG now and sold away the alienware. quite happy with it.

[@BlackJesus8463]

I like glossy for the deep blacks but the glare is horrendous and you need blackout curtains.

[@redfirefox3568]

I got this monitor at best buy as an open box for $850. Games look great on the PS5 Pro and the hdr is pretty good if set up correctly. I like it more than my LG C1.

[@alpacacheese7705]

I got a Samsung neo G7 and the screen matte was terrible so I agree with you on that I'll stay glossy

[@Benefits]

I was strongly considering buying the LG but there are lots of reviews that mention how terrible the screen flickers while using variable refresh rate. Is there any current oled monitor that doesn't have unbearable flickering while using VRR?

[@SKYzLxmit]

Flicker is non issue as long as you got good pc

[@Benefits]

@@SKYzLxmit That doesn't make any sense. PC specs have nothing to do with a monitor feature being broken. Monitor firmware is what controls things like that, not your PC hardware. Besides, the reviews I'm referring to were all using high end systems with RTX 4090's.

[@PfcJs]

Rtings has a video on VRR flickering. I don't know if you saw it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5C9fqCDjM6Sr6Msi=Ygt2aSnEyYnIRwxY I was seriously considering the MSI MPG 271QRX until I saw this video. I hope they are able to fix this problem.

[@Cakebattered]

Never understood the appeal of matte screens. The matte finish reduces total contrast, creates analog dither that reduces fine detail, and worsens large reflections buy smearing the light across a larger area.

[@marcosvictor4935]

It doesn't actually affect t contrast, it doesn't create dither unless the screen is wet or the coat is especially bad and it also doesn't make the reflections worse the intention is to avoid being distracted by reflexions and it does that very well so it actually makes it better and the problem with reflexions is that they call attention to themselves and distract you from the content. It CAN decrease perceived color and contrast though that's the tradeoff, and I agree it looks bad. But also does the semi glossy QD-OLED so RN we have very limited options. In the end you get a lot less contrast in bright rooms with QD-OLED or just a little and only perceived reduction in contrast with the WOLED panels. If you turn off the lights there's no difference at all between either finish. Asus did launch a glossy WOLED tho.

[@yegoat05]

​@marcosvictor4935 their version of glossy isn't, high-end TV glass glossy like our phones have..... In all honesty their aren't any true glossy monitors on the market at the moment.

[@shoobadoo123]

The matte on these OLEDs is no where near the matte on most LCDs

[@marcosvictor4935]

@@yegoat05 Yeah, samsung's new anti reflective coat on the galaxy S24 Ultra is the GOAT, I hope they can scale that up to larger screens in the future and bring it to their monitor and TV screens, and that other manufacturers manage to make similar coats, that would be ideal

[@Protektor_Führungskommando]

Currently using the 39GS95QE and I absolutely love it (until micro-led) but yeah that matte coating is really distracting in bright scenes, ironically on high apl hdr moments as you said but also when there is a bright or white thing moving slowly it creates a distracting sensation of seeing a moving image while the matte grain is static, god I hope they get rid of it on high end displays

[@AlexHusTech]

*Would love an OLED for my next monitor upgrade*

[@lucaschenJC]

Got the 34 inch 2k version of this for $700! Absolutely a beast!

[@fatpenguin0089]

wats the refresh rate

[@lucaschenJC]

@@fatpenguin0089240hz

[@lucaschenJC]

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[@lucaschenJC]

@@fatpenguin0089 240

[@jeremyg2236]

what's the exact model number?

[@cmarvin]

Daniel, Fedex doesn't notify like UPS and USPS. You will need to enter tracking number on their website and enable notifications

[@TechNThrive]

It’s surprising that there isn’t more discussion about the 1440p performance of this monitor at 240Hz. With my 4090, the monitor delivers an exceptional experience at 1440p; most games seamlessly hit a solid 240fps while consuming significantly less power compared to 4k gaming, where I only occasionally reach that frame rate. Additionally, the subpixel layout of the monitor is impressive, providing clear and sharp text without any color fringing. Gamer 1 settings should be tweaked , stock the colors are dull and brightness is lacking.

[@Martin-wj6um]

If you could relate this somehow to prescription glasses, refresh, viewing distance etc basics.... i think you could get much more use than just rambling aoout stats in a given 10 min yt window....cheers!

[@Pt-42]

Great review! Now I won't feel so bad for not getting this lol

[@AetherProwl]

I got an MSI QDOLED 32inch 4k and hated the pink green blur on high contrast lines so I spent the extra money and got the LG. I loved the deeper blacks, and the 480Hz was cool but like you, I noticed the resolution drop way more than the refresh rate increase. Using HDR, whites definitely got brighter but colors didn’t and looked dark and washed out as a result. Between the dim colors in HDR, matte coating grain, and higher price I decided to deal with the pink green blur and purpley blacks of the QDOLED, but for most people I’d say give it another generation to cook

[@alesiodagostino4740]

You must’ve been doing something wrong for the colours to look that way. I have the same monitor and the colours absolutely do get brighter along with the whites.

[@Omizuke]

48 is on the big side. I have a 42 and I think it's fine, any bigger would be too much. I think it would be perfect between 37-43. 32 would be the limit of how small, if the display is outstanding. A matte one, would not be that. I don't like mate. I like glossy, mine is semi glossy VA, I can deal with it. And yeah, I can sort of see me keyboard. But doesn't bother me and I tune it out with time. The mate, I just feel too much that the screen has a plastic cover on it. I think the mate graininess plus 1080p would negatively impact more than the gain from 480Hz.

[@MirelRC]

Damn. The matte finish on this LG OLED monitor is darker than the QD-OLED xD. I think that what LG did isn't a mistake.

[@johndelabretonne2373]

Daniel, did you find the size of your old LG TV to be more fatiguing? If you had it to do again, might you have gone with a 42" C1 instead of a 48"? I've been considering a C3 OLED, and I'm having a tough time deciding between 42" vs 48"...

[@danielowentech]

I don't think fatiguing is the right word. But in certain games, especially competitive games, it was a bit hard to see the edges of the screen without having to turn my head. And in some single player games the pixel density felt a bit low if sitting close. 42 inch wasn't available until the C2 series, and I probably would have bought 42 instead of 48 if it had been available at the time.

[@Javier64691]

I wouldn’t go 42 inch either. While you get a lot of screen, your games look less sharp, lower resolutions looks even muddier, and multiplayer games get really hard to play. I have a 43 inch TV as a monitor, while it’s not OLED, I can tell you, you’ll be happy with a 42 inch, however, I would rather wait for a 32 inch glossy OLED monitor.

[@BlackJesus8463]

@@Javier64691 32" is huge for a desktop gaming monitor. Probably too big to enjoy for most people.

[@omsa831]

I tried 42" C3 and didnt like it for monitor use. I still prefer 32"4k due tu higher pixel density for monitor use

[@NearynHub]

I use a 55 inch G2. My recommendation is to check your space - I do have a dedicated room, so I had space to try out the setup. Wall mounted really helped and a relatively large table. I started with 1.60m distance and found motion sickness happening with one particular game - Riven?!? Remake. So I pulled the table 20 cm away, now at 1.8-2m it is absolutely perfect! I guess for a 42 inch model you should sit at least 1.4m away and 1.6m with a 48 inch one. By the way, great displays, have fun!

[@sidexside9772]

Got the 39 inch and couldn't be happier, absolute monster. The matte screen doesn't bother me. Bright. Vibrant screen.

[@EthicalAllele]

I don't know if they even exist, but couldn't you install a giant 32" smooth glass screen protector to turn the matte monitor into a glossy monitor? Would that me even more distracting?

[@paul2609]

Try Overwatch 2 to see if 480Hz makes a difference. It is a very optimised and consistent game in terms of frametime so framerate difference (i.e. 240 to 480FPS) can be felt easier compared to other games (e.g. frametimes in CS2 is so bad that 450FPS feels like 90FPS).

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Glossy finish sounds great under the right environments mainly a dark room with no reflections. If you can't get that scenario matte finish would be better. Both look great though regardless. Butt glossy would look best in total darkness due to its nature while matte finish would look best anywhere else.

[@ThreaT650]

Where I lose you is the 4K at competitive games. Not so much the idea that 480hz is not as noticeable (it likely isn't very noticeable) or that 1080p looks worse (it certainly looks worse), but that you would take an fps hit at all to play in 4K is not relatable to most people who play fps shooters. I think that's the case at least. And even if someone was to play in 4K, I think most people don't really have the hardware to be pulling massive fps in 4K even at competitive games. I guess this use case would be highly limited to the GPU someone is rocking.

[@Typhy7]

Wait the delivery guys just throw your orders in your porch or backyard? That is just ridiculous. They don't ring the doorbell and hand it over to you? Is this normal in the US??

[@shoobadoo123]

Not normal at all

[@GrainGrown]

@@shoobadoo123 Don't lie.

[@yousefmoa]

Im so torn between 6 differents oled monitors 😭

[@stevegomez232]

As an owner of a w-oled tv and a QD-oled monitor I can say that w-oled is definitely better in rich and pure blacks but the QD-Oled has brighter and more accurate colors. At least from my perspective. But honestly I still prefer W-oled I just wish there was a 4k monitor that had a glossy screen because matte looks terrible on an oled panel.

[@tanmayhembram9249]

Always wanted a comparison between OLED TV that boast OP viewing experience vs these new 99% P3 OLED's desktop Monitors. Thank You. Yeah That glossy vs matte one with TV comparision is a cherry on top comparision.

[@Pillokun]

I had two woleds, 1440p 240hz and both had the dirty gray issue when they tried to output gray or darker shades, for instance when using windows darkmode when looking at empty space in a folder or discord or youtbube and seeing artefacts like lines running across the screen during the dark shades. I dont use light mode so I dont get affected by the matte vs glossy issue but the fact that the woleds cant display gray or darker shades without artefacts is very annoying. thinking of getting a qd-oled in the future because they seem to not have the dirty gray issue.

[@Quast]

Sounds like the matte finish isn't the best. But I know what you talking about some matte finishes are a bit grainy.

[@Garrett1974]

I see what you mean with the white, it's ever so slightly visible to me but the lack of mirror reflections makes it that much better than my previous QD-OLED screen had (dlfullngloss due to polishing lol) This screen I like better, and no purple tint ever 😎

[@Medkit94]

I got the Alienware 32 inch 4k 240hz QD-OLED to replace my LG C1 48 inch. The size difference took some getting used to but now that I have adjusted the Alienware is incredible.

[@rasluffi]

Do you game at 4K? Is the greater pixel density as crisp as it seems? Would you say 4K at that size is more pleasing than a 1440p ultrawide? Or would the immersion of the 21:9 outweighs the 4K image?

[@Medkit94]

@@rasluffi I can't speak on ultrawide. Never used it. I play most games at 4k. The pixel density is really good and everything is super crisp and vibrant

[@rasluffi]

@playswithfire04 I need answers playswithfire04, answers

[@philliprokkas195]

Kinda rushed purchasing an eBay find of a pg27aqn for 440 before shipping and tax (totaling $506). I still feel l did alright; the latest and greatest oled offerings are all $800-$1200 and more often than not are out of stock

[@bluntdragon_]

How is OLED Matte different from IPS Matte? Like 99% of monitors use a matte finish.

[@donjuan3296]

Is it normal that the right side looks a little bit more warm? Like moving towards the yellow colors? It's subtel, but noticeable when you pay close attention. I don't want to have a faulty unit spending this much money :(

[@maxpayne044]

You don't seem convinced this was a good choice. It seems kinda like you regret the change. If there was a 240hz monitor similar to the LG C2 that would make me switch.

[@3000TonnenKoala]

Quite interesting insights, thank you for that. If you weren't looking for a 4K Monitor, I would say the Asus ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG (yes copy & pasted ^^) would be ideal. WOLED, glossy, 240Hz. and the new panel type that goes up to 250-275 on full white vs the AQDM from last year that only reached 200 nits in full white scenes.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Would consider this size have in 1440P so 4K & OLED sure, am curious how it went.

[@HEXPO]

Idk if its just me but the screen saver behind you makes the video go up and down on the brightness.

[@CyberJedi1]

I still can't find the MSI monitor in the EU.

[@donsaul]

still rocking a ASUS Predator TN 144Hz 1440p monitor I still prefer it over using my LG C1 for PC gaming, really tempted to upgrade to these new QD or WOLED monitors, but even with a 4080 Super, it not super common for me to be playing games that goes over 144 fps in 1440p, now in 4k its rare go get a game over 120 fps too. We need better game optimization to reach those high fps outside esports

[@ameliabuns4058]

my problem with this is the terrible color accuracy, EOTF tracking, and hdr performance considering the price. the brightness isn't that high for HDR like the qd-oleds, but woleds have been always a bit better at that on monitors (pg27aqm) I had a PG32ucdm, but now I have an LG C4, the pg32ucdm has poor HDR performance.

[@ddd45125]

Sounds like you need 42inch G3 Daniel, I have it love it.

[@ddd45125]

C3 I mean

[@crabosity]

have you tried comparing LG’s own AI 4k upscaling solution to DLSS and FSR to see how they compare? I think it would make for an interesting vid