DARLA is WHAT NOW???? - Angel Reaction - 3x01 - Heartthrob

[@MrSupertallblackman]

Timeline for Angel's life so far {UPDATE}: 1753: Liam is turn to into Angelus. 1760: Angelus meets The Master. 1765: Angelus and Darla had a near miss with Holtz in Arles after making too much noise by ordering room service and then eating the waiters. Darla fled to Vienna, knocking out and abandoning Angelus in a burning barn and riding off on their only horse. After meeting again in Vienna and eating a troubadour in Madrid, Angelus and Darla became acquainted with the vampires James and Elisabeth. 1786: Angelus sires Penn (Jeremy Renner). 1860: Angelus and Darla meet torture and turn Drusilla. 1880 Drusilla turns Spike and around the same time Spike and Angelus get into a fight in a mineshaft. 1883: Angelus killed a servant named Margaret during a Christmas party. 1898: Angelus feeds on a Gypsy and gets cursed. 1900: In China, during the Boxer Rebellion, Angelus tries to resume his life with Darla. Around the same time Spike kills a Slayer and Angelus is eventually is forced to leave The Whirlwind. 1952: Angel was a resident of the Hyperion Hotel and meets Judy Kovacs. 1996: Angel meets Whistler who sets him on his path to Buffy. 1997: Angel meets Buffy. The reason the visions are hurting Cordy is because they're not meant for human.

[@TheMrsWatcher]

Eventhough they live in a Hotel, It's not being used as a hotel, Fred's room is her Home. Accentuating the fact that Fred 'Belongs', even though she feels like she doesn't.

[@ronfehr7899]

Also, explaining why Angel needed an invitation to enter the first time, even though the rest of the hotel is his.

[@TheMrsWatcher]

@@ronfehr7899 I like how Dresden Files lore explains the threshold. Can't help but feel like Buffy/Angel inspired the books.

[@godmagnus]

They didn't go full Twilight, Twilight went full Angel.

[@mnomadvfx]

Except Angel did it well, rooted in the Rice source material which it was clearly ripping off. Twilight was just a teenage girl wish fulfillment fantasy wrapped up in a bad ripoff of Angel type brooding vampires with an insanely unhealthy dose of mental health problems mixed in. (seriously read the whole series and tell me that Meyer isn't telegraphing some serious buried psychological issues of her own on the pages of her novels)

[@robertcorbett9455]

Not that i want to defend Twilight but i'd guess the book with the pregnancy came before Angel. Not sure how much old the books are then the movies. I could be wrong.

[@Marwolaeth01]

@@robertcorbett9455 Twilight was 2005, series 3 of Angel was 2002. Don't worry, Angel did not copy off Twilight :D

[@Marwolaeth01]

What I find amusing is that looking as Edward Cullen and Stefan Salvatore, I can't help but feel the Angel "hero hair" is just the answer to the question of what does a good broody vampire look like?

[@robertcorbett9455]

@@Marwolaeth01 Yeah i looked it up to be sure. Actually the book with the pregnancy was out in 2008. I forget how old Buffy and Angel are now. Makes me feel old.

[@smkfet]

14:50 it works if it's your home. If you're renting a sketchy motel room for a night it doesn't work, but if someone gives you that same motel room with the intent that you live there it does

[@MrLorenzovanmatterho]

There will come a time when you'll think Cordy/Dennis is a pretty wholesome relationship.

[@hardybryan]

Fred is living in that room, so the vampire barrier is there. If she were just staying in a hotel, he wouldn't need the invite. They're kind of sloppy and vague with all the rules, but I'm pretty sure that's how it works here.

[@TigerNightmare]

They intended to do more with Kate, but Elisabeth Rohm had other acting commitments that prevented them from servicing the character fully to make her a more prominent character. During season 2, she was a series regular on a show called Bull (not to be confused with the more recent show of the same name where Eliza Dushku was paid $9.5 million because of the lead's serial sexual harassment abuses) and became a regular for Law & Order as that show's most wooden, monotone ADA in its history. On the plus side, had they made Kate a regular, we probably wouldn't have gotten Fred. Good trade.

[@byronabrahams871]

The look on your face at the Darla reveal was worth.... EVERYTHING!

[@ronfehr7899]

Well, you got several pleasant surprises thi episode. Fred is added to the opening credits. You got to see Darla. You got to see Darla pregnant.

[@andreduarte8372]

This season and season 4 are the absolute pinnacle of the show, IMHO. Get ready for a HELL of a rollercoaster!

[@ernesthakey3396]

Lexi: "This season is starting out with a huge bang." Darla: "Yeah, tell me about it..."

[@samrobotsin]

Buffyverse + Mormonism = Where Twilight got its everything from

[@MrSupertallblackman]

You throw some Anne Rice in there too.

[@smkfet]

@@MrSupertallblackman I don't think Buffy happens the same way if there's no Anne Rice

[@alicequinn505]

@@smkfet Anne Rice wouldn't have happened the way that it did without Dracula

[@smkfet]

@@alicequinn505 Or probably at all

[@killianlpc]

I thought Heartthrob was a really strong opener. Again in this show we get to see Angel himself as a more richer character, as opposed to the one dimensional character he was in BTVS. A great scene on the subway train mirroring Spike's scene in BTVS episode Fool For Love with the Slayer from 1977. A startling reveal at the end with Darla being pregnant, the consequences of which will drive this Season insane! A good bit of comedy before that with Darla sucking the lime after biting man at the bar. Great comedy moment too when Angel tells Fred to get back in her room after trying to get her out of it before. S3 is great with some brilliant plot lines building, and of course we have the team growing now with 5 regulars at this point, giving the show much more scope.

[@Madbandit77]

I think the subway train car was the same set from Fool For Love.

[@trufamilybromontqc]

Cliffhanger ...Darla😅you're face said it all

[@Buffy8Fan]

An interesting episode that delves into some mythology we never considered and gives mysteries as to how other mythology was bypassed over.

[@mike777ok]

Great reaction. I know the ending would blow your mind.

[@jonreese7066]

The pregnancy is actually explained in a future episode.

[@The_One_In_Black]

It's hard for me to give credence to S2 being people's favorite when we don't have the full cast in LA until S3.

[@yvetterodriguez2550]

Omg Lexi! That stunned look on your face 😂 Time to fuck up a storyline! 👍

[@67Daidalos]

I believe this episode should be studied in writing/directing colleges as the perfect exemple of hooking the audience. About Fred's room... It's not about the hotel belonging to Angel, it's about what someone considers his home : Remember in 2x02, when we had the flashback of Angel going to the bookshop owner specialized in occult. He "made Angel run, and shout out after him something like "I'm sincerely considering getting a bed here to forbid you the access !" I'm on the "S2 is my fav" team.. that said, S3 and 5 are really close behind So you don't have to worry : it's good stuff coming !

[@notoriouslybratty]

Wow, LA subways look a lot like the ones in New York 😂

[@victorsixtythree]

24:55 - Haha - that last surprise reveal always reminds me of an episode from a show called "Girls Behaving Badly" with Chelsea Handler...kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppm5dIFsid2Xeck

[@notoriouslybratty]

Aww, I stopped getting notifications for Lexi. I love the way she lights up when Lorne appears on screen.

[@stanleysmith2221]

Love your excitement for Amy Acker, see fabulous

[@Saul_Ferguson]

Imagine if it was even weirder and Angel was the one that got pregnant. Like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Junior.

[@Oxmustube]

There is a reason why Darla is pregnant, but I don't want to spoil anything, even though that reason happened in a previous episode. You just have to go back and do some detective work.

[@Sidistic_Atheist]

They hadn't gone full Twilight. Twilight went full Angel.

[@Talisguy]

I still don't understand why Angel needed an invite into Fred's room when he owned the hotel, but Russell could just walk into Tina's flat in episode 1 because he owned the building. It feels weird that whether Angel technically owned the hotel as opposed to just leasing it would make a difference to the (presumably ancient) magic governing vampire invitations, y'know? It sometimes feels like different writers don't quite agree on the details. Jenny seemed surprised that Angelus could enter Sunnydale High without an invite when she knew from experience that vampires don't need to be invited into public buildings, to pick another example.

[@emilysimon6239]

Russel probably had already been invited in at some point. It also could have had something to do with her lease-I could totally see him putting in loopholes so he could get in anywhere. Angel is more respectful and wouldn’t do that. I also could imagine him lying in that moment to give Fred more control over her life again so she isn’t too overwhelmed. Anyone can enter a high school, especially a public one. I think Jenny was just more surprised to see him at all.

[@gamingeagle19]

More than likely Russell had been there before. At least that's the impression I got.

[@Talisguy]

@@emilysimon6239 Maybe he had been invited over before. OK, makes sense. But if putting legal loopholes in her tenancy agreement made a difference to the magical laws governing vampirism then I'm back to being confused. And with Jenny, Angelus says that he got in because "enter all ye who seek knowledge" was inscribed over the door, as if that made a difference. The writer of Passion only wrote one other episode, so I think he might just not have gotten the memo about vampires being able to enter public buildings without invites.

[@Logan_Baron]

@@Talisguy Well given what we've seen with Wolfram and Hart as a lawfirm dealing with the supernatural, then we know that there are things that work just like legal loopholes. If something were put in the agreement that said something along the lines of by signing this the owner is invited in (written better in more legalese to me less obvious) then it would definitely count as an invite. But we're really just headcanoning here, to explain what was an inconsistency between writers. The Angel line in Passion I think was meant as Angelus being snarky. I don't even think that was a writer inconsistency, but that the writer knew he didn't need an invite, but wrote the snarky Angelus line.

[@Buffy8Fan]

As long as Fred considered that room her place of residence and not just a room, then Angel needed to be invited. It's not about who owns a building. It's about whether or not a human considers a place their home. Not a place their staying, but home. That's also why Angel needed an invite into Gunn's gang's hideout, despite the fact that it was an abandon building. That was where they considered home. Jenny was surprised to see Angelus and didn't understand that he could enter the building even without the sign. Angel bringing up the sign was a way to do what he loved, torture her. We also don't know Russell hadn't been invited in before. Nothing states that was his first time.

[@jonreese7066]

Ah the knockoff Spike and Dru

[@invadertifxiii]

honestly in my opinion i think the first 2 buffy episodes should be first before angel, idk y watch order says otherwise, its ridiculous, but i love ur reactions

[@Gecoma]

Nah

[@invadertifxiii]

@@Gecoma still my opinion

[@tehcoolemu]

I dunno, I feel like all the Buffy talk in this episode fits a lot better before we see the S6 two-part opener. Kinda important for Buffy to be "gone".

[@invadertifxiii]

@@tehcoolemu maybe it seems from me not watching angel til it was on DVD and all I watched was buffy that I feel that way.

[@knowledge-girl]

The first few episodes of Angel aired before the season premiere of Buffy because Buffy had moved to a different station.