Dave Gracey Former Presiding Overseer, Elder, Ministerial Servant, Pioneer, and 1975 Survivor Speaks

[@rogersmith9086]

Hi Cameron. You are doing great work. The watchtower set a date for Armageddon October 4-5th 1974. I was Presiding Overseer and I was appointed as a temporary Circuit Overseer and I visited the congregations every week to talk about the impending world destruction. Later in 1977 they held a round of Assemblies where the speakers were given outlines to read blaming the congregations for talking about the 1975 event and that all members had overreached and had made up stories. I remember at our Convention at Carlaw Park Auckland New Zealand, the crowd drowned out the speaker yelling he was telling lies. That was a very unhappy convention. Many just left the witnesses and never came back. It took me until 2014 to wake up. I must be very slow in the head. I have never been disfellowshipped as when I got the letter to attend the judicial committee I served the congregation and the judicial committee as 1st 2nd and third defendants in a court hearing I had arranged through the privacy commission in New Zealand. I had a later visit from a Circuit Overseer encouraging me to leave the congregation in peace. As my family still attended I backed off and shut the case down. I still have impending court cases but I am unable to talk about that. Hopefully by the end of 2019 to early 2020 we should have some exciting news from the South Pacific region.

[@rogersmith9086]

@wish4truth2 watchtower even produced a single page leaflet that showed a train running on a normal train track and there was a massive break in the track and a huge hole the train would fall into. The big hole had 1975 at the bottom of the hole. The train was the path of humanity riding along. We had to get out of the train of the world before it plunged into the hole in 1975. All congregations in NZ distributed this leaflet. I trying to figure the date of the release. 1969 rings a bell for me as I married a sister in 1969 and it was just before I got married. I was appointed Presiding Overseer in 1973 and i remember all the correspondent we got about 1975. The Society set the date for October 4 to 5th. There is a very telling watchtower we studied around 76 or 77 explaining why the end never came in 75. They said it was because the 6000 years from Adam which ended in 1975 was they had overlooked Eve was not created yet and the six thousand years had to be counted from when Evd was created. So we all started to reason how long would Adam live by himself. As far as I know this teaching still stands. So Adam would now be 44 years old and still waiting for his wife to be created from 6044 years ago. This reasoning is a real stretch because we have dug up and translated the Sumerian Tablets and most of the earlier copies of the bible predate watchtowers teaching on time. The list of Kings alone stretches back 440,000 years. It's time for everyone to wake up. REGARDS Roger

[@rogersmith9086]

@wish4truth2 I also remember a yellow book printed around 1966-7 All hope for mankind. This has the famous chart of Adam to the end of humanity and it has 1975 printed in the chart. All witnesses understood it meant Armageddon. That was the inference of the chart. You need to get hold of the Governing Body and President of watchtower Ray Franz's book. It's on Amazon for sale. Sorry I can't remember the name now.

[@annetteandersen5762]

Roger Smith I wish you all the best 🙏

[@freespirit3891]

@@rogersmith9086 he had 2 one was crisis of conscience (sorry, don't remember the other) c of c is a very good read

[@ilvi.7787]

@@freespirit3891 the second book is In Search of Christian Freedom also Carl Olof Jonsson's book Are We In The Last Days is a great read.

[@greentrees2111]

I am so sorry to hear of this brother’s journey. His words are spot on. Shunning can have serious consequences.

[@charlenewatkins9126]

Saw that in our small congregation and realized at one of our first conventions that is what happened to a mother who was attending,her child had just killed themself over shunning,was too new to put 2 and 2 together until later.And these are “Jehovah’s Happy people”????? Praise Watchtower ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@Keithbarber]

People in the movement are told not to speak to antichrists in the bible, but jehovahs WICKEDNESS have people disfellowshipped for things not even mentioned in the bible and just doesn't make sense

[@Keithbarber]

@Aubrey Shatner and I dont agree with a word of it - exactly much time have you spent typing up all this drivel?

[@Keithbarber]

@Aubrey Shatner it will land me in heaven by the right hand of god my heavenly father and the grace of the lord jesus christ my lord and saviour. Thanks be to God amen

[@Keithbarber]

P.s. I mark your words 10/10 as utter bullSHIT

[@CassD33]

Apostafest?! This is the first I've heard of it. Going to look it up and hope to attend next year!

[@charlenewatkins9126]

Me too, needs to be out there ,so many people that are PIMO or otherwise could benefit from this healing .

[@robinkishmiller2596]

Cass D The non-Apostate Apostate i love your videos!!!!!!!

[@ready2danceagain]

Every year in Tahoe, usually the 2nd weekend... Camp Richardson (the weekend after the 4th of July) www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6283009838809088/12th-annual-south-lake-tahoe-apostafest-make-plans-soon-july-12th-14th-2019 We have made some very good friends, and it has definitely been worth the time and effort to make it there. A very beautiful place to visit!

[@seanswade8699]

I'm going. Im'ma be mackin 😊

[@jackpineresearch6960]

I’m so glad he got to visit with his granddaughter. Tear jerker of a story. Thank you for sharing!

[@runawayslave1724]

Hello Dave, you were disfellowshipped for causing divisions? How many millions of divisions do they cause by marking, disfellowshipping, narky letters of introduction, etc!!! I want to hug you for all the heartbreaking things you have had to endure - and still do with this court case. Sending lots of love from Australia.

[@runawayslave1724]

@Aubrey Shatner Hello Aubrey...... Jehovah would like to speak...Deut. 18:22...."When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled, or does not come true, then, Jehovah did not speak that word..." Jehovah's Witnesses have predicted the end of the world on many, many SPECIFIC DATES for over a hundred years and NONE have come true. Therefore Jehovah's Witnesses are a false prophet.

[@dannycasey2832]

I was 14 in 75. The scariest night of my life was Oct 31 because I knew it would come in Oct so I knew it would come that night.

[@natashapeeters988]

I had tears in my eyes... Thank you and Dave for this !

[@alsantiago8699]

I can personally testify that Dave Gracey is one of the finest human beings I've ever met.

[@davegracey2259]

Thank you Al, I feel the same about you my friend

[@espaghetti99]

Wow. What a story. This brother paid the ultimate price of waking up to the cult of what is the watchtower. Unbelievable. I’m sorry for your loss.

[@jwsuicides8095]

"Listen to people who love you....Give it a chance."

[@RenLuuk]

This is one of the most powerful testimonials I have ever heard. You did an excellent job to just let him talk. 🙏

[@jwsuicides8095]

Just got to the point of Dave's daughter's death. If Dave reads this...I have my channel name because of these suicides. It is a particular type of bereavement that we endure when those we love so much choose to leave because of their pain. There are no quick-fix answers but I wish Dave and his loved ones the best peace, love, understanding and comfort possible. xxx

[@DeniseHedberg66]

They love because they know the truth. That's the whole thing in a nutshell. Love doesn't come from fear. The organization rules it's members with fear. That's why they are sick spiritually and physically. From all that fear. Other people's experiences are so helpful to so many! Thanks to him for sharing his, and to you for letting so many hear it!

[@wysteriaherr8306]

Wow Dave, I am so sorry to hear about you and what your family have been through. I agree with you about that shunning kills.

[@annettehawksworth6376]

Such an important and very moving testimony about that evil and loveless cult.. Thank you Dave... and Kameron May our only Lord and Saviour, Master and King, Christ Jesus, bless you and keep you 🙏

[@merylbarnes2770]

That's heart wrenching. Thanks for telling your story. It will help people. I'm sure of it. I'm glad you're free.

[@exjwfifth9838]

Hey Dave! Good to see you again

[@davegracey2259]

Cliff thank you so much for your hard work in exposing the lies of the Watchtower. Please feel free to come see us again.

[@KameronFader]

Yeah Cliff! Next year would be good with both of you. :)

[@exjwfifth9838]

Kameron Fader yeah I just might have to plan for it next year!

[@marie-clairedelongchamp1330]

Dave Gracey I had no idea this event even existed! It would be wonderful if, a couple of months beforehand, it was announced on ex JW videos. I would love to attend! 🥰 Thank you for sharing this very painful & at the same time encouraging video. I disassociated one year ago June 1 st/18 . Have never regretted this decision. Yes, I did do plenty of research, which is why I feel this way! 😌

[@breannhollon1060]

@@davegracey2259 did you ever go by the name Joe?

[@naufrage0]

Thank you for sharing brother. Your story helps me realize that it will be a long road to saving my mother from the cult. Love you Dave and Kameron. Stay strong brothers. Love from your Sister.

[@debraallen2132]

I'm very sorry for your loss.

[@dutchmanlogger8979]

Well Dave you've been down a rough road really enjoyed listening to you we're both the same age I was a ministerial servant the same time you were an elder same time your story is so much like mine I live in Northern California I would love to hear from you I would love to talk to you

[@ERNIE555]

dutchman logger I so hope you can reconnect with some of your family

[@robinkishmiller2596]

I watched your videos as well. It made me cry.

[@suchenliao2517]

Awesome interviews !! Thank you brothers

[@craiglange4523]

Thanks for sharing. Such a heartbreaking video, the org has blood on their hands. It's good that's Dave's family left in the end. It's good to finally hear Dave's story after he was good support for me when I faded in 2018

[@davegracey2259]

Thanks for sharing that Craig, I am happy to hear you are doing well.

[@laymanphil8513]

Thank you for this wonderful testimony. Conscious of being under informed by the WT, more and more JW come on KZbin to discover the truth about the truth. We live in a great time that will see the inevitable collapse of the WT. Time plays more and more against the WT who does not understand what is happening to him. Bonjour de France

[@andymackey]

Thank you so much for sharing your story! Much love to all of you!

[@adab9959]

Thank you for telling your story! My heart aches for you, but I’m also so happy that you found your way out of the cult!

[@kimberlyodonnell2918]

Love you, Dave! Thanks for sharing your story. Hope we can make it out one year.

[@davegracey2259]

Thanks Kimmie love you too and Mark. Would be great to see you two guys.

[@lovelive2216]

Omg so sad 😞!! Thank you for sharing Sending love to you all ❤️💕

[@malba411]

So many simiiar stories. Heartbreaking. I would love to attend one of the former jw feast. Time to heal and realize what true love really is.

[@michaeleric76]

That really moved me. My mother is still a very active Witness living outside of Sacramento. Since 1998, we have only talked twice, for maybe 10 minutes. And I was baptized at 9 and regular pioneered at 10.

[@losborne5]

Thank you for this video. Thank you for sharing your story. My story is could have ended the same...I didn't kill myself because I didn't want my children to be raised in the religion and I wasn't sure who would get them.

[@shilonel2284]

Thanks for this Cameron, big hug for you Dave ♥

[@annetteandersen5762]

I cried hard....😭 Thank you for doing this good work❤️

[@stefanusrheeder4162]

My Dear brother. I know what you are feeling....fortunately we still have our daughter....... but there was no compassion for us with all the difficulties we had. I can write a book about it. although not disfellowshipped, we are shunned by our youngest daughter and her husband and husbands family although they do not even have the facts. the grief just never goes away somehow. thinking of you.

[@charlenewatkins9126]

Compassion is something that waved a red flag for me almost as if JW members were conditioned to be numbed from that human emotion from birth,hope things get better for you and your family .

[@freespirit3891]

@@charlenewatkins9126 numbness is showing lack of love, so can't believe thats what this years convention is to be on 🖓

[@GameChanger597]

It may seem like you will grieve forever but the grief can go in Jesus name. He can replace that grief with joy.

[@davidwicklin9943]

Absolutely heart wrenching testimony from Dave Gracey! Devastating to the core with what he and his family have been through explaining his backdrop story reflecting the types of pressures the watchtower organization places on people in mentally abusively ways, emotionally abusive and spiritually abusive ways. I feel guilty at times and almost practically complicit for buying into all this watchtower stuff at age 20 in 1992 but then I temper those feelings of guilt with the reality that I was in prime hijacking position as an only child whose non-JW mother had battled lymphoma cancer for 12 years prior to me walking into a kingdom hall the first time on June 21, 1992 and she passed away July 18, 1992. The "resurrection" "hope" via the "Live Forever" book and Watchtower's theological way appealed to me with comfort and what I thought was the ultimate solution at an extremely vulnerable, susceptible time in my life. I became more anti-social with "the world" my co-workers and "worldly" friends would tell me as I believed I had to conform fully to the JWitness culture to survive the big GT & A. The WT narratives of no more crime, injustice, corruption, gangs, wars, etc., appealed to me growing up in Chicago that had one of the highest murder rates of American cities, plus the turmoil of observing family breakdowns, moral and social breakdown and upheaval pre-internet. Dave Gracey made an excellent point about researching books in print beyond just KZbin videos. That helps us look at watchtower literature from an objective perspective for the real self-indicting truths of TTATT they create for themselves based on Watchtower's own lies, false prophecies, lax and loopholed policies and other dangerously destructive doctrines and practices of their high-control CULT-ure. Blessings of peace, love and gratefulness to Dave and to you Kameron for taking the time to share this journey in 20 minutes that brings help and a measure of healing to all of us who watch this reminding us that we're not alone with each of us having experience damage of varying degrees individually and as families from a corporate publishing organization masquerading as a religion run by old, out of touch with reality, men in New York. Best, Dave in central Wisconsin

[@porgguy4962]

Love you Dave. Thanks for telling your story. I appreciate everything you do.

[@davegracey2259]

Thanks Dad

[@andiepole2204]

Mr. Gracey, I cried listening to your story. I am so very sorry for what you’ve been through. What a beautiful thing that some of your family is joining you on this journey!

[@anneroberts6634]

You certainly have been though the mill, Dave. So sorry. Thank you for this, Kameron. I wish there was an Apostafest near me :(

[@kormoranneu5715]

Wow...great Video , Great Man...,Thank you Kameron....

[@misstwinkletoes74]

Dave, I am so very sorry about your daughter. Thank you for sharing your story. Much love to you x

[@steann1]

TY Dave... from Australia..for allowing us to share in your life. Glad for your g/kids.... mine are free too, and my kids.

[@davegracey2259]

That's awesome to hear, nothing could have made me happier. Now if the older one can just make the leap it will be complete

[@aliceharvey6921]

Fantastic interview, so glad I got to meet Dave this past weekend. You both are doing great work!

[@davegracey2259]

Yes it was my pleasure Alice. Hope to see you next year.

[@darthfader733]

This was awesome, Dave should record/write his story and share it on JW Survey. Better Yet write a book of his experience. I am currently reading "Leaving The Witness" by Amber Scorah

[@jameshigginbottom632]

Darth Fader I read that book last week. It was awesome!

[@charlenewatkins9126]

Crisis of Conscious is very heartfelt and true story,very sad and maddening at the same time.

[@Jay-bh7dh]

Awesome video Kameron! One of the best interviews I've seen on the subject matter. Just shared this on Facebook. I won't be surprised if a few people block me, don't care cuz I'm 100% awake now. Thank you for this.

[@leahbolling6514]

Thank you Cameron and Dave for sharing this story. It’s heartbreaking. It also shows the power of resilience and the search for truth. Dave, you truly are an inspiration. I too was a third generation JW. I left in 1992 when there was barely an internet. I was the only one in my family to leave. It took many years, but I can truly say that I am happy. Cheers!

[@Peter1Edwards]

Such a sad experience , and it makes me so glad to be out. Lots of love to you both.

[@rhondamayfield6314]

What an incredible, gut wrenching story! Thank you for sharing 😢

[@rafaeldavid9726]

I'm amazed by Dave's strength to talk about it and still keeps his serenity...

[@robbiedudley9572]

Thanks for exploring

[@mthokozisilanga4497]

Wow! Wow! This is really really unbelievably cruel. So sorry for your loss, and may you have strength.

[@krissykatportal]

Omg this made me cry like a baby. Wish I could meet this sweet man and give him a hug.

[@freedomparadisechick6564]

Great interview!!! Kameron hope you are ok ! You have a great channel!

[@kittylove2975]

Thank you both‼️❤️

[@ireneshea686]

Thank you Dave Loved seeing and listening to your story I am so happy for you having more family waking up Thank you Kameron for interviewing Dave Hugs from Australia

[@davegracey2259]

Thanks Irene

[@maxinemortimer714]

Thanks for this video, it sounds awful because this exbrother has suffered so much...but his courage in the face of all he's been through is an inspiration to me....was feeling low but it's given me impetus to keep going....😊😊😊

[@davidsolomon5881]

People should love because they know the truth , they dont love out of fear. Very beautiful words brother

[@debsvista2281]

Beautiful interview! Thanks for sharing his story!

[@elainebraindrain3174]

Thank you for sharing it was heartbreaking but encouraging 💔

[@ryancaster3413]

Powerful story...thank you Dave and Kameron.

[@feralwave250]

Incredible story, thank you Kameron. Former elder here. Listening to Dave's story brought on the tears. His tragedy literally mirrors Jesus teaching of the Good Samaritan. How that 'sister' lives with herself knowing that young woman was in distress and died.....all due to a rule created by Nathan Knorr? The simplest of Bible stories continues to condemn this cult. Tragic and fascinating :(

[@sharris5150]

Thank you for sharing your story Dave. I know this was hard for you. I am sorry for your loss and the mistreatment of your step daughter.

[@bornn68]

New subscriber here. Thanks Dave Gracey.Thank you all for sharing the healing.

[@MollySato]

Thank you both for sharing this. 💚🌹💚

[@fillupbanks7885]

I love how all the ex JW say do the research!! Because when you're a Jehovah's Witness, research outside of what they write is discouraged.

[@Boshunz]

No words can describe how thankful I am for your content, specifically this video. This was one of the first videos that woke me up. I like how you are still real clean cut and welcomed us viewers as "brothers And sisters". It helped me identify you As A definite former witness. and made you a little less scary. I wish you two the very best and have nothing but love for you guys. Some trippy shtuff

[@nikkiburroughs4164]

Kameron, great interview. Great job you guys. Thanks for putting your story out here. Dave I am so sorry for the loss, injustice and pain you have suffered because of the organization. Kameron keep up the great work! There ARE waves being made! 💪 Funny, I can hear Flipper’s guitar in the background but for me it adds even more depth to this video. He was singing a song he wrote about being denied relationship with his own children and grandchildren. So many sad stories. Shunning is so cruel and evil. The JWs are tricked into doing things that are so injurious. I know they can’t possibly feel good about it. They are suffering too. I pray their cognitive dissonance kicks in and awakens them. Jesus is the way the truth and the life, not freaking Watchtower. Why they keep behaving as if Watchtower is God is baffling. Anyways, my two cents. Love you guys, peace. ✌️

[@davegracey2259]

It was good to see you at Apostafest.

[@KameronFader]

It was good to see, hangout, and hear both of your stories. Can't wait for next year.

[@timpgpilot2530]

Shame on the people who thumb downed this video!

[@charlenewatkins9126]

Still brainwashed ,demons want to hold on to their prey as long as possible to destroy more lives,WT GB demons that is.

[@davegracey2259]

@@charlenewatkins9126 at least they saw part of it and may remember it someday when the ugly head of the Watchtower touches them. It took me a long time to see it but when you do it's really disgusting.

[@hymatwat9412]

Tim Walthew shame on people who keep saying omg

[@beckyg927]

Mr. Gracey, thank you for sharing your heart breaking journey. My heart breaks for your loss, i cant even imagine. Love to you and your family, dear Sir. 🙏❤

[@SamA-sr1bp]

Amazing story! Thanks to both of you for sharing!

[@SamA-sr1bp]

Just to add, becsuse before I didnt finish the video, there is such strength in sharing. It is painful, but more helpful than you could ever know. Thank you

[@allanu6416]

Very, very encouraging...thank you so much for sharing!!

[@RandomPerson-js3rc]

The way this religion is set up, it is doomed to fail. The amount of people there are getting dissfellowshiped trying to live up to such impossible standards is proof of that. One woman in a support group of mine said the elders who dissfellowshiped her are now dissfellowshiped themselves. She wondered why they never answered her reinstatement letters.😄 Good thing for her they didn't.

[@rdhawk929]

😂😂

[@davegracey2259]

Like a snowball effect for sure.

[@larryblersch8041]

So much for loving concern for their spiritual sister, my heart goes out to you. It's heartbreaking to think if the other witness in the apartment building had shown real love and concerns for your daughter she my very well be alive today!

[@matilda4406]

At the end, the key : listen to people who love you ! Cults do not love people. Listen to those who truly love you. Thumbs up.

[@nesnate4]

Wowww thanks for sharing that was really a heart breaking story.

[@clarity2478]

Kameron thanks for making this video. Your genuine personality is so easy to take! Dave, thanks for your openess about your experiences. I was there in 1975 too & echo all you said. If we only had known that watchtower was still playing the stockmarkets in December 1975, & never stopped ..while telling us to throw our silver into the streets, as it were! That failure & let down resulted in the breakdown of my family also. Deadly cult.

[@homemadehappiness3132]

So moving!this cult has blood on their hands,it’s disgusting. Let’s hope the chains break away for all those trapped inside this evil cult. Much love to you and the dear brother x

[@sonyatorres7483]

I pray that certain family members can open their eyes!

[@jennkistler-mccoy5233]

Thank you for sharing your story. It's so heartbreaking, but also encouraging that his other family is waking up. Sidenote: Apostafest in South Lake Tahoe?!!! That sounds amazing! I live in Sacramento and will definitely be looking into that for next year.

[@clarsisk4751]

It was great hearing from Dave Gracey

[@terencelutre6195]

Sad but enlightening

[@lightbearer9367]

Wow... Thank you so much. We are finding more unity in their attempted division... Their efforts to silence our voices is futility! Strength in breaking the silence!

[@ShoNuffSoulBro1]

Geez, that’s such a tragic experience. Thanks for sharing his witness and life story. I for one have been researching and waking up. When things don’t add up, there’s something wrong. And one of the things I was never fully informed about was the 1975 debacle. And to hear his 1st hand account of the 1975 WT “drumbeat” is most revealing, especially since a fairly recent WTSociety’s video disingenuously attempts to pass blame to “some brothers” for spreading anticipation, when in reality it was the very top leadership that pumped out the 1975 drumbeat for nearly a whole decade ! ! And the fact that they don’t own up to it along with other failed dates like 1925 reveals a serious amount of dishonesty & deception! I was SHOCKED when I learned about Rutherford’s 1920’s “Millions Now Living Will Never Die” world wide campaign . And the whole 1975 thing was a repeat of that with a different generation of leadership. So disgraceful ! ! Thankyou.

[@zelmaalcalde5454]

This is WONDERFUL THANKS

[@johnnylavery5512]

Tragic. So sorry. Thank you for sharing.

[@jwsuicides8095]

Oh no...really need to vomit about what happened to his stepdaughter. Nooo, nooo,no no.

[@RenLuuk]

I was thinking of you and your hard work when I was listening to this 😢

[@markegerpetersen8731]

Fifty years ago this summer my parents were baptised at the LA convention at Dodger stadium. My mother left after the 75 affair.

[@davegracey2259]

I was there cleaning toilets

[@aboundinggrace8763]

Heartbreaking

[@cristaolegendario6417]

May Jesus give peace to this man's heart.

[@laslim9453]

First...thank you for sharing your personal story. I wish I knew about the fest. I got kicked out 25 years ago and there was no support. Love the support that is now available. I hope to attend the next one.

[@heidislettemo7551]

Shunning kills.. I lost my mom 4 years ago. I woke up. So sorry for your loss. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@whiteriver1453]

I love you brothers from Puerto Rico!!! Thank you for sharing, you are absolutely right. I served the Watch Tower for 16 years and what a waste . I feel very happy ever since I left the cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses. My regards!

[@dawnross2514]

This is so powerful but so heartwrenching. This poor man and his family, you can see the grief in his face and eyes. So very glad the chain is being broken. Wishing you both peace, happiness and healing 💙

[@timothysanfino4311]

This was an amazing interview and such a touching story. Thank you so much to the both of you!

[@chicknpi]

Oh my Cameron... plz advertise next years gathering... I wanna go!

[@KameronFader]

Lynn ReNae Fisher I always do 😉

[@jwsuicides8095]

"Shunning can kill." xxx

[@Esther-1914]

I'm so sorry to hear that awful suicide story, Dave. Your escape from the cult gave you new life. 👍👍 What you said about leaving, "The old man could leave, so they could too." This is exactly what I think, too. If I had the tools to leave, they do too. I taught them everything I knew, including how to leave. So, I keep hoping my two children will leave the cult, too, one day. I left the borg in 2000.

[@davegracey2259]

My two step children that I raised fro 5 and 7 years of age are out and awake and my two children are out and wide awake. Our leaving in some ways made it easier for them they knew they would not be shunned for one.

[@Esther-1914]

@@davegracey2259 Wonderful, cheerful story! Thanks for those lovely words! 😊

[@fxsteen]

Wow!!! what a story!!!! thank you. didnt know about these gatherings.....thanks

[@vicdriver501]

My mom dropped out of high school, got married at 74, as the elders told her by the time she turns 19 yrs old, you'll already be in the new system, which was promised to come in 1975. She's now 62 yrs old, I'm 42, as of course, I also dropped out of school in 94, became a regular pioneer. Needless to say, I disassociated myself in 2012, after to many failed prophecies. But my mom still believes that the watchtower org is the truth

[@davidmachado4400]

My mom too....i feel bad for her though

[@kmm291]

Thank you Dave. I was in JW 34 years,raised 5 kids in it, pioneered, believed. The kids grew and married. My middle daughter woke up first. My youngest son woke up second. The only 2 that were baptized .(my oldest son and oldest daughter died. ) My youngest daughter is not into religion but prays. My husband got baptized 14 years after me, then he died ) It’s about our relationship with Holy God,not with an organization. I woke up too. Grateful. So sorry for your loss. It goes deep I know. Thanks Kameron

[@rachellejoachim2652]

Wow! The story is sad but at least the family wake up. It is hard to leave but at least video like these help

[@LovinLife-pv7op]

My heart simply breaks for this man. He and his family were treated so badly. It is just tragic.