Davvy's Guide to the Blood War

[@bavettesAstartes]

"Not one side is allowed to win" *sips tea in Yugoloth* Agreed.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Why win at war when you can win at trade, am I right?

[@bavettesAstartes]

@@jacobfreeman5444 I mean, you can win a game of risk, or you can sell the pieces. Am I right or am I right, lads? *cackles in neutral evil*

[@thedon68889]

Jacob Freeman I mean economics are incredibly important in a war, especially if devil contracts are in a dry spot and they need to rely on yugoloths- that way Yugoloths can enter the war unofficially and conquer devils by trade

[@bavettesAstartes]

@@thedon68889 What are you talking about, friend? Yugoloths would **never** join a side of the Blood War, huhuhu But yeah. There is a difference between playing Monopoly and playing the bank.

[@thedon68889]

Heliophage that’s what I mean by enter unofficially- they’re not taking a side, just using their dependency on souls to basically conquer them in other ways

[@theeshyguy]

If the blood war ends, then we all lose... Sounds like a campaign.

[@347tester]

Dude is there anything else interesting like this in d&d ? Watched some lore vids and now I'm getting hooked 😂

[@marcelocampos7447]

@@347tester what are you talking about? this is d&d lol

[@taddad2641]

or you know they easily defeat the surviving side cause demons are too disorganized too be an effective front and devils need souls to create more devils which they can restrict by actively countering them in the living world?

[@atomicash2475]

@@taddad2641 yeah but devil are smart about how they get souls, so stopping it would be hard. Plus demons number in infinity minus 1, they are almost endless and continue to grow in numbers. Better to just to try contain the carnage. Make sure evil souls go to the hells or Hades, Don't let demons into the material planes, limit the power of cults, that kind of stuff is what you want to do

[@km1dash6]

If you want a happy ending, destroy the abyss first, then the nine hells second. If you want the world to end, destroy the devils first, then have demons overrun the material realm.

[@asbestosfish_]

I can think of _one_ joke here, and it contains the words “Daddy Chappy”, and I don’t want to give Hell any more material than they already have.

[@goodanytimej8688]

Everyone needs a good pounding Demon Pounding every now and again 😈

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Demon D**do. For when you need more than a good pounding. You need the corruption of chaos inside you.

[@anthonynorman7545]

@@jacobfreeman5444 everyone knows that a dragon is better! ;)

[@bigredwolf6]

Looks like garand thumbs comment section has infected the entire internet

[@asbestosfish_]

bigredwolf6 The what thumbs?

[@MisterDaviso452]

“There must always be a Lich King.”

[@defensivekobra3873]

Oh no, i do not get that reference!

[@WingZX1103]

Theres always the one

[@hephaestus9901]

@@defensivekobra3873 WoW the wrath of lich king

[@theillethedartisan7514]

Thanks Satan

[@Moreau121]

There must always be a blood war.

[@MrRandomstuff9]

See, this lore is cool, until you realize that it gets even cooler. I’m not sure if this is 5E cannon, but in previous edition of DnD this whole story about the blood war was made up by asmodeus to keep other planes off his back and to keep the blood war going because as long as his arch devils are fighting demons, they can’t focus on trying to take his throne. Pretty neat stuff

[@goldenbrigain7031]

So everything is a lie made to ensure no one realizes that if they wiped out hell and the abyss evil could just up and vanish? Interesting.

[@youcantbeatk7006]

"No one is safe from demon girth." -Davvy Chappy Oct 19, 2019

[@taddad2641]

except an army of cr30 angels who could fireballs the army into oblivion.

[@marcus4046]

@@taddad2641 not fireball persay (cause demons/devils might have resistance to fire) but holy smiting might

[@racekitty]

The blood war is essential warhammer 40k one evil oppressive force vs a even more evil force that want absolute chaos or wants to devour the galaxy so some parts of D&D are very grimdark.

[@MrMagbrant]

Is the empire the one evil oppressive force?

[@howaboutnow1895]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrg!

[@tonydanatop4912]

My question is why aren't the forces of good in thier own blood war if the entire MULTIVERSE isnt "big enough" for law and caos to coexist ?

[@andresmarrero8666]

@@tonydanatop4912 it never was about order and chaos. Besides since when have you know the polytheistic gods to ever cooperate. Especially when you have some evil apples in the batch.

[@00784865]

@@MrMagbrant thats heresy. Report to your local Inquisitor. Mankind is always good.

[@AwesomeLionSaurus]

The lore I watched from Mr.Rhexx said that the only reason the devil's haven't won the war against demon's is because Asmodeous doesn't want them to win. He wants the blood war to keep going on forever so he can do sneaky stuff unnoticed in the lowest pit of hell.

[@stripeybag6977]

There is one group of winners in the Blood War though and it's the Yugoloths because they own that war economy and get all that sweet sweet platinum,gold,information,and souls at the end of the day.

[@thatguy7243]

Devils: I speak your language Yugoloths: Really? Everybody: looks at Mamon Mamon: Fine what's the minimum

[@brianwendt2520]

Oh man, wouldn't a multiverse wide war be a SICK plot in the next phase of D&D?? I think so.

[@Shaiyo5]

This video just helped me refine my the motivation of my Celestial Warlock's unseen patron. Thank you!

[@nateskinner97]

Hook for a campaign: An Angel is helping a demon prince in the Blood War because the Devil's are too close to winning.

[@thedon68889]

I like it but you’d need to ask questions like “are they doing it out in the open?” “Helping them in what way?” “If it’s in the open, how is an angel able to reason with an incredibly chaotic demon king that just wants to break things?”

[@nateskinner97]

@@thedon68889 I appreciate that you are trying to give DM advice but I left the hook vague on purpose so other's could elaborate.

[@SimonWolfie]

@@nateskinner97 to be fair, he's leaving those questions vague as well.

[@WexMajor82]

That's basically Zariel. She became a Devil, because they were inefficient.

[@witchlightsands]

DnD lore, DnD communities, everyone ever: the blood war is ESSENTIAL to the balance of the multiverse / me sipping apple juice as i continue to not put the blood war in my games because i hate it: yall hear smthin

[@AnthonyR007]

War, war never changes

[@AMPMASTER10]

War is Hell. I'm sorry I couldn't resist a pun.

[@danielmattos2813]

My paladin is having some mixed feelings about this

[@ethanrajczak3041]

Current campaign has the blood war leak into the material plane. Devils found ways to making umbilical cords to Hell so Archdevils don’t lose any of their power once they hatch from ritual eggs. Demon worship has gotten more intricate as followers wisen up to summon demons on much larger scales. The main threat to the last continent on my planet is Yeenoghu who is on the rise as he made a lot of gnolls and even got intelligent, but weak willed spellcasters to help. Along with Mephistopheles who my players will indirectly help finish his ritual this summoning his 19 mile egg. Once all the pieces fall their gonna have to help a Lich vacuum both evils into the negative zone to destroy their forms and send them back to their respected dimensions.

[@hypermaeonyx4969]

Wow

[@aganaom1712]

When the blood war ends, the blood bath begins

[@andrewthegeek6522]

Makes the worlock less bad for selling their soul

[@thedon68889]

Wellll..it depends WHY they sell their soul, or even if you can consider these devils good, as if they win they’ll enslave EVERYTHING

[@andresmarrero8666]

Selling your soul is never a good thing, no matter what.

[@sephikong8323]

@@andresmarrero8666 *Disagrees in Yog-Sothoth*

[@thedon68889]

Andres Marrero I mean, you could sell your soul to help out your dying village, family members, gain magical powers of healing etc

[@thedon68889]

A devil could be ruining someone’s life until they sell their soul to the devil just for it to leave them alone

[@arbiterskiss6692]

This is relevant, I am running two of my Players in an adventure down the River Styx and need another look at this conflict.

[@mr.incorporeal7642]

As usual, the Daemons receive no credit for their role in keeping the Demons and Devils at each other's throats and perpetuating the Blood War. Of course, that's the way they like it. Overlooked so no one realizes who the true threat is.

[@admcleo]

My favorite idea for a BBEG for a campaign is just a good aligned Kingdom/Organization that actually takes the blood war seriously and beginning to find a solution for it. So much so that they even gain the attention of those balance licking toadies of the multiverse that start manipulating events, IE: the pcs, to stop their plan less their precious stalemate be affected.

[@johnwendel702]

That moment when the vid has 999 likes and you struggle to decide whether to tip it into the thousands or leave it as a german "NO NO NO!"

[@Mr_Maiq_The_Liar]

The forces of good would probably still kill any side that gets a bit of a foothold.

[@sinpai4592]

That is honestly the most badass lore ive heard in a long time, great vid!

[@polkadotalien1]

My friend when avernus came out "I cant wait to go to hell"

[@jowhy7243]

I created this devil villain known as Uzinam who despises demons due to their lack of rules, and so he tried to convince the archdevils that the Blood War was a good thing. Unfortunately the archdevils ignored his constant complaining, putting it off, until the demons eventually reached Avernus. Because my players were more chaotic, they were on the side of the demons more than the devils, and so Uzinam became an enemy of the players. It was cool.

[@atriumgamesmore4336]

Good vid, also, you look like Marisha Ray from Critical Role.

[@LovingPrinceTamayuki]

The blood war sounds like the opening description in every episode of record of lodoss war...

[@Sleepynotlazy]

Honestly, one if not the best of you videos!

[@blandedgear9704]

Last time I was this early, I was but an Imp. AND LOOK AT ME NOW! A loyal Pit Fiend under the demon lord Daddy Chap.

[@MoffMuppet]

Now I just want to make a campaign where Hell manages to broker a temporary truce with the demons, basically telling them "we won't stop you from messing up over the cosmos as long as you don't interfer with us." Then he goes to the Council of Good Guys and tells them "oh dear, the demons aren't fighting us any more, what a shame. But you know, we could stop them if we all worked together and wiped them out... just saying." Obviously in this scenario Hell is basically betting everything on one card; either the good guys help destroy the demons which will give Hell a chance to take over with no more Blood War going on, or the good guys do nothing and EVERYONE DIES.

[@hazmatter0634]

Frankly the one of the things I do is that when a demon enters the material plane looking for stuff I have a highly powerful devil give tje players a.quest to stop them or if the demons attacking a town the devil offers utter safety from the demon in exchange for.their souls

[@Devilish98]

There is a third faction, the Yugoloths who rep NE and are mercenaries from Ghahena

[@thedrunkendruid8526]

As a brazilian, that Funk joke made laugh REALLY hard

[@Ozarka0]

I probably shouldn't have watched this a few days before my Descent into Avernus campaign. ;w;

[@Ozarka0]

but! At the very least I do know who I plan to feed to these devilish fucks. Seriously, fuck those dumb ass mercenaries.

[@NightFlame-eb2cn]

Intriguing D&D history

[@wafflesop6546]

Damnit I just started a comp game in CSGO. I’m just going to like the video and then I’ll come back to it.

[@coalopalatticus6964]

Meanwhile, everyone in the farlands is like "You wanna poke these idiots if one side starts gaining too much ground?"

[@phuzzychinn]

And that's what the Burning Legion from Warcraft basically is. Fallen god joins demons and devil in unholy "burn the planes"

[@spacewarsfight281]

Cool stuff

[@defensivekobra3873]

The war to end all wars

[@humorlessink2658]

Damn this is deep

[@shekargarvey8330]

Being a god couldn’t asmodeus wipe the floor with the demons

[@goodanytimej8688]

Davy could you make a video on the whole chain of events during the time of troubles or the sundering? I know it but would love hearing it in your brand of alliteration 😁

[@calvinhayman7597]

well theirs also the dawn war between the gods and the queen of chaos along with all the obriths

[@goodanytimej8688]

THAT is what I want more info on, there's only some in the demonomicon

[@calvinhayman7597]

good anytime j ok so the obriths are basically beings from another dimension at the tail end of there universe. They crate a portal to are universe and end up in the first layer of the abyss. Pazzuzu the guy who runs the first layer of the abyss is one. He guards the portal to there realm, long story short the queen of choas looses the war and the demons spawn many actual kill obriths. There’s a lot to this story to find this you have to dig into old old lore.

[@lemonking3793]

So basically Primus is the one who is truely in control

[@vwertix1662]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

[@librarianseth5572]

Basically, how the transformers work- eternal war

[@Nyxlave]

*clears throat* *licks lips* "Fuck the status quo." *dabs in chaotic good*

[@Dm1309-for]

Freezer

[@marcus4046]

BLOOOOOOOOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!! KHORNE FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@defensivekobra3873]

Oh this is gonna be good

[@JackBlack-qn7us]

Soo what you're telling me is.... I need to make it happen

[@bobk8l656]

20th my boys well the blood war cool

[@singularity1130]

Maintaining the Balance sounds like a dangerous idea... Because when one side wins then it'll be the most powerful and apex fighting force in all the planes with 1000s of year of experience to take over any other land. Best to deal with it while they're still just devils/demons than let them become unstoppable in this EXP meat grinder. And I propose we go about this by destroying both sides in one single blow by summoning my Patron Azathoth. All hail the god of chaos Great Azathoth our Lord Who rests beyond no longer Who is silent no more

[@Sharkakaka]

There is only one winner on this war and it is asmodeus as it keeps all the arch devils busy and not rebelling while he recovers his serpentine damaged body in the snake coil

[@logandau9905]

This really depends on how long it.

[@WingZX1103]

Hmmm...so how in the nine hells does Asmodeus keep everyone in check in a plane that has everyone quick to kill each other?

[@angramainyu8423]

"""THE ETERNAL WAR BETWEEN POSITIVE ENERGY AND NEGATIVE ENERGY''''

[@KatakMelayu]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SKULL FOR THE SKULL THRONE

[@draxthemsklonst]

Isn't Acheron basically a goblin & orc "blood war" zone?

[@ottertvmtg6229]

yes but thats not *the* blood war just a war thats bloody

[@patrickdees5256]

So is this like a Jets vs. Sharks situation?

[@jaegercat6702]

How to safely end the blood war: send doomguy in there and tell him to wreck shit.

[@dk2k1]

From what I gather , the Dragonlance setting inadvertently presented a second worst case scenario-the forces of evil uniting and the forces of good destroying them all. Long story short, Good would end up collapsing in on itself and becoming Evil because Good would become obsessed with itself and start persecuting and executing those it deemed not good enough.

[@KevinChristensen-h8x]

Everlasting conflict, of the underworld😊

[@phuzzychinn]

I still hate the distinctions made by the lore between Demons and Devils, but there's other Fiends that are on neither plane... And no other series separates demons and devils like D&D and it is a pain for me to have to force myself to remember the distinction for ONE series when most of the others don't do it.

[@imreplyingtothiscomment2378]

And i thought the scp verse was wild

[@rockethero1177]

Even hell hates hell

[@lechevalier-ns2pt]

If the abyss wins: dnd turns into warhammer If the nine hells wins: dnd turns into diablo

[@raidmaster6879]

FOR KORN!

[@justinr.9171]

What would happen If they just stopped fighting each other? Like no truce.. but like a cease fire they still hate but realive that killing each other forever is dumb. Would everything get messed up?

[@bonogiamboni4830]

Wouldn't happen. Demons simply cannot stop fighting and murdering, so devils can't stop either, and even if they did it's not like they would take over the material plane together since once it was under fiendish control there would be way fewer souls for the devils to corrupt, and the demons could also just kill every mortal ever while they have access to the material plane, so this would make hell's recruitment drive halt and that way the demons would just steamroll absolutely everything, the hells, gehenna, acheron, maybe they could even take the higher planes, and both the demons and the devils know this so the devils will not let a cease fire happen. After all asmodeus is the one purposefully prolonging the war to keep the souls a-pumping.

[@griffincrump5077]

Except one key distinction, if the devils win their strength will still be finite, and that a war heaven *can* win, demons are infinite and even if the forces of good do hold them back it does nothing to stop them from tearing the material plane asunder at which point it doesn’t matter anymore

[@jiggityjack8113]

This s kind like a dope ass story

[@blindoutlaw]

Do celestials next Oh you thought angels were good? Well yes..... but also no

[@adam7223]

I'm a conscientious objector

[@SimonCarl93]

So you need some money? Have you tried the banks of Avernus? They have excellent rates!

[@CityFolkDreams]

The blood war? We have the same thing here but they are called THE FLAME WARS

[@wallycastagnir]

Wanst there something called the contract prime evil whoch forbidss the devils tskeing over the multiverse

[@MoonbornUwU]

I thought if you died In the 9 hells as an evil soul you'd return as a devil?

[@tomhazell983]

Mortals that die in the lower planes go to the same afterlives they would otherwise, so yes those destined for hell would have a shorter distance before they came back as a Lemure. Fiends that die in the lower planes die for good, whith the exception of Lemure, which can reform if they die in the nine hells specifically.

[@darbisd]

Hmmm a war between two creatures that wants to destroy and/or conquer all for its own amusement and involves tons of blood... Basically the Menstruation War.

[@maxmustermann2417]

is this about the special time of the month?!?

[@NiroKun23]

Well, here in Chile, we almost manage to be in war...

[@15098D]

I have question, what editing software do you use?

[@chickentinddy5104]

Hello

[@347tester]

I love that assholes have to fight back against even bigger assholes 😂 wow d&d more is so fun . Why is there not tv shows or movies of this ? I'm new to d&d and diff earned a sub .

[@umbracolt6364]

Ding ding

[@missyjames8887]

Devils in the blood war would be anti heroes

[@Phiro00]

if you wanna see it that way, so are the demons, because they are preventing the devils from taking over the world. both arent heroes, neither side is good and neither should win

[@anthonynorman7545]

Anti-villian would be more appropriate for the devils. They aren't heroes but they're more sympathetic than the demons.

[@cocaloca5402]

so what do Celestials actually do? most campaigns they come off as lame and cryptically lazy. Blood war seems to regulate itself.

[@micolashcageofnightmare5504]

Ask Zariel about this one... But seriosly speaking it kind of bugs me how heaven's forces are either not doing anything or doing it "too well". I get the idea of PCs being Big Damn Heroes but it just doesn't sound right in a case of multiverse level threat. I made a whole human/angel faction in my world just to avoid that.

[@Ralathym]

#TeamDevil

[@garberasandor9699]

If this is a war between chaotic and lawful evil, how would its good counterpart look like?

[@LordBrittish]

Is it *really* better to have the devil you know than the demon you don’t?

[@greaterdanemark2397]

So war with blood

[@sjcaustenite]

This is the most sexual video on KZbin.

[@CleverUserNameTaken77]

Hahaha......... Demon girth.

[@gingerspice231]

The video is 6:09 Just food for though

[@emmanuelmorris7653]

Do you know if the ONI are going to be playable?

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

:-)

[@theprinceofawesomeness]

hey idea. if the Abbys are truly endless the Demons will eventually win by attrition. so what the Good creatures should do is to cut of Devils from being even able to get souls and then send forcers in to join the Devils side of the war. if the abbys is truly endless then all senarius will end with demons winning but if it is not truly endless the devils will now have a huge chance of winning with the good outsiders healp but now cut of from all the souls they could easely be wiped out.

[@reubenfromow4854]

We of the infernal legion absolutely agree with your idea. In fact, let’s just get it in contract, shall we? Just sign here... and here... and here.... Wonderful! You’ve been successfully conscripted. Welcome to Hell! Enjoy your stay- you’re not going to leave...

[@bryndennis6223]

Gee, I sure do hope my players don't see this video...