Jordan Peterson - What Having a 150+ IQ Means

[@Liberty-Vault]

What does having a high IQ mean? For more liberty clips, subscribe to my channel and click the bell!

[@prestow]

My experience hasn't been the best. It often feels like others live by emotion rather than reason, their thinking seems scattered and undisciplined, and they can't see things that are obvious to me. I try to help, but there’s always a disconnect-it’s like there’s a gap between what I say and what they truly need. This leaves me feeling isolated and lonely, as there's no one in my circle I can fully relate to. For context, my personality type is INTJ.

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

@@Liberty-Vault it is actually a way to point out idiots more than to make individuals feel special, honestly. That could have to do with the rarity however

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

@@Liberty-Vault also… intelligence quotient.

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

@@Liberty-Vault intelligence quotient. It is the capacity to be intelligent that is subjectively measured. And as we all know, and as history has just about proven, intelligence is subjective. Some extremely smart people, without the right data/info, flounder their entire lives with mistakes.

[@janewx1]

The problem with this is to the best of my knowledge Elon has Never Taken an IQ test. SAT’s have been used to make Estimates. But estimates an Actual are not the same. Elon has Funded and Spear headed innovations. However Having the Mental capacity to actual Develop the technology and crack the code to discovery is the what real Genius is all about. Elon is NOT a Genius. He may be a trailblazer. But a Genius yet alone having a real IQ score from a place like MENSA has yet to surface.

[@Noccyboy]

I have 63 IQ and I don’t know what’s going on

[@DBCooper3]

You dont want to understand. Dont try. Ignorance is Bliss friendo mine

[@Csirkefoga]

😂🤣

[@williamflaherty3168]

Me2. And Jordan Peterson makes it even lower.

[@keithgraham9547]

Is that you, Kamala? Or is it Tim?

[@williamflaherty3168]

@@keithgraham9547 Stupid. I am President Donald Trump.

[@99Akinator]

I was told by my parents from an early age that I was different. When i was in class I always felt like i was surrounded by monkeys and everyone was so stupid. Now, as an adult, I finally was told that my IQ is 72, and i was sent to a school for children with special needs. Turns out that 72 was a pretty high score in there.

[@AWT8900]

High achiever......standout

[@mattdesroches3219]

thats pretty funny

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

Not a 72 if you're able to write and use a computer. That's hardly enough to feed yourself.

[@calebsilvergleid9797]

​@@bite-sizedshorts9635A joke, friend

[@1BeGe]

@@bite-sizedshorts9635 That's not true. Not even close. Granted his writing is probably better than a 72, but a 72 absolutely can work a computer and leave comments. Technically "mild intellectual disability" starts at 69, moderate at 49, and severe at 34. 72 is not even technically mildly intellectually disabled, nevertheless the severe type of disability you're alluding to. Though I admit working with a 72 IQ person will make you feel like they're pretty disabled... Hate to tell you, but a very real percentage of the people you interact with on the internet are probably not far off of 72. And yes, you should be scared by that thought. The internet is a dangerous place if you don't vet your sources.

[@JohnSmithAaargh]

475 IQ here, and I am currently transcending into the collective counsciousness of all whales and dolphins. 🐳

[@jessemontano762]

whoa

[@scottwolf8633]

"Counsciousness" ? Learn to spell before you harm the cetaceans neural networks.

[@vasilis8208]

That's not even possible!

[@Thalanox]

@@vasilis8208 Not for regular dum-dums like us, at least!

[@jamespassas9441]

@@Thalanox Come on, who'se even heard of an IQ of 475?

[@daretodream...898]

My son was having "problems" in middle school. I took him to a professional to have him tested for ADHD. My son and I sat in the room with the professional as she delivered the results. He did not have ADHD, she thought he might be depressed. Then she looked at me bewildered and said, "Your son tested at a 165 IQ." I had no idea what that meant. This was before internet searching. It wasn't until I watched an episode of "Frasier" where Frasier and Niles were competing to see who had the higher IQ that I finally understood. ... ... My son ended up self-medicating with pot, dropped out of high school, got his GED, and taught himself to play drums and guitar. He also taught himself electronics, fixes computers, got his HAM radio license, makes his own radios and antennas. But, he does not fit the social norms. He's never been married, no kids, no debt. He plays in various local bands for a meger living. He has a strong testimony of Jesus. ❤

[@donovanhaas7315]

I had a friend in high school, this was in the mid eighties, who tested in the 99 percentile. I have no idea what his actual IQ scores were, but he also never really fit in.

[@buckanderson3520]

He probably realizes the same thing I do, that you can have all the answers in the world but without Jesus you have nothing. The thing about people clinging to atheism is that claim to care about truth but don't realize that without Jesus it doesn't matter if what they believe is true or not. Without eternal life both them and what they believe will end in death. Unless there is a God people should just believe whatever they want and not waste their lives caring about whether it was true or not. If an atheist insists that what they believe matters just tell them that you'll ask them again in 150 yrs or so and see if it still matters to them then, and say "oops I forgot you won't exist anymore so I guess it didn't matter that much".

[@I_Am_A_Ghost_42]

I think I kinda admire your son’s life. I also don’t think it’s necessary to follow the conventional path. Respect and ❤️ love. God bless your son and your family. 🙏 Amen

[@andrewthompson5728]

The worst thing that can happen to a child is to find out they have a very high IQ through outside testing. There are many, many entities (usually Government) who will have an interest which is not in the best mental interests of that child - especially in this day and age.

[@CaaPoraSpirit]

​@@andrewthompson5728let me guess, ...says somebody with an average iq?. I'm 39, Argentine. High IQ, 135. 17 years depressed 8 ptsd, a dozen of girls 3 of them with high iq and 2 with pristine or very singular spiritual awareness, just like me. Women here are nuts, and maybe in the entire world; not loyal at all. What'sthe best of this dude? Same as here, tho' ! WE HAVE A STRONG TESTIMONY OF JESUS. I'm Roman Catholic.

[@deepcow]

My mother had an IQ of 176, she was miserable her entire life. She was an alcoholic and suicidal.

[@jllemin4]

Happiest people I have ever known are all Christian

[@revdrquinn]

171 here I managed to stay away from the alcohol and drugs. It's very tempting. Miserable and suicidal are good descriptions of my day-to-day life.

[@TheKmaki]

High IQ folks are just as effected by issues with brain chemistry as the rest of us. Sorry to hear.

[@jimpemberton]

That's sad. It's not uncommon among the very intelligent.

[@jamesbarrett9066]

That's a massive difference than average, more and more I am thinking emotional intelligence is far more important than I.Q.

[@jonyoung6405]

It means a life of frustration from dealing with a constant flow of morons.

[@stevemartin7464]

It may seem people are morons, and it can be challenging. I sometimes feel physical pain in conversations where people are less intelligent and I am puzzled at their view of things.

[@septemberamyx]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JBplumbing12]

No, that's just your irritability problem.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

You trust people to do things, then you're shocked at what a mess they've made.

[@kathyjennings3907]

Best comment here.

[@Woodkin007]

Im around the 125 / 130 mark, so above average and the biggest problem I have is believing how people are selfish, aggressive and reactive and dont seem to be able to see themselves outside of their own reality.

[@kriispyskinz]

I see alot of that too. Its called narcassim. Everyone technically has some narcassim but dosent make you a true narcassist. Its all about how you percieve something. Theres way more to it then just that but once you see it its hard to unsee it.

[@jamesvillamor1842]

Damn, reactive is right on the money. I'm just flabbergasted by how much peoples' views are obviously just reactionary of their past and life experiences. I'm not even free of that phenomenon, but at least I'm aware of it.

[@Woodkin007]

@@kriispyskinz That's an interesting point. It's like people get caught up in their own narrative.

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

yea there's an endless list of problems people create which are quite shocking, but the truth is we kinda all do, its just the lack of self awareness that seems baffling, then again every few years i notice I've been ignoring plenty of faults of my own so really we aren't all that different.

[@BugChick3n]

Gotta love the world of egocentrism, amirite? 😅

[@evalramman7502]

Way below 150, but find this kind of discussion deeply interesting.

[@DarrenSalty]

Way way below. Massively insecure ego.

[@FullCircleTravis]

@@DarrenSalty If you have an insecure ego, you should know your life is exactly how it should be. If it was supposed to be different, it would be. It's like the paradox of self-help. The reason why people feel they need to change their lives is because they believe it should be something else. Self-help is a scam, because first the authors teach people that there is some great life waiting for people, and they just need to learn the tips and tricks to manifest it or something. I am one of these over 150 IQ people. I accept my life how it is. I don't fit the success model others have. I could create all kinds of nonsense about doing great things. Ironically, when I accepted my life, I actually realized that I had been creating in depth knowledge about the function of reality the whole time, and the real me is actually an expert. Not only that, but I can share this knowledge with people who would have never found it if I don't point to it. What everyone discovers it that when they accept their present life and self, they find out they actually were the person they want to be, but they were so busy chasing false realities of what could be, they fail to appreciate the present given to them. For example. My friends always thought I was really good with women when I was young and single. The truth was that I would find the eyes of women that liked me, and pick the one I liked the most. Most guys look for the women they find most attractive and try to pick them up. You accept an offer from a woman who likes you. The trick is to stop chasing false realities where you bang cheerleaders. When you look at most animals, the males always attract mates. Only in humans are women attracting men by looking pretty. If you see women without makeup on, they look plain. The reason why women wear makeup is because they want to possess masculine power and control men. That's why women who paint their faces are the worst wives you can possibly find, because they are obsessed with power. The man who accepts the offers from the plain women and doesn't fill his mind with fantasies of painted faces, will be a happy man.

[@Ivearted]

@@DarrenSaltyballs

[@CreeperthanPasta]

Same, im retarded

[@matthewmcbride28]

Chocolate salty​@@Ivearted

[@yousaidwhaaaattt8631]

Everyone took those 20 question free IQ tests and they think they are a genius now lol

[@desertdenizen6428]

I was tested when I was a teenager and was told I had an IQ of 155. That didn't mean much to me because I felt normal. I know that through school, I hardly ever studied or did homework assignments but always did well on tests. Occasionally one of my teachers would tell me I was not using what I was born with. It seemed like whatever was being taught, I already knew it, I think that may be due to my love of reading. I dropped out of high school because I had a problem with a couple of my teachers and would not submit to their discipline. As Dr. Peterson said one trait was having lots of thoughts constantly swirling in my brain and I was interested in many different fields, mostly STEM subjects. I was never able to settle on one field, so mostly had technical problem solving jobs. I have survived into my 80's and live a modest life, alone but not lonely.

[@user-vx1up7ty7z]

Thank you for sharing your experience, I appreciate it.

[@roshauntitus]

I’m occasionally reminded of things I don’t think about as often till I read and listen to videos like this or comments like yours. I’ve never officially tested my IQ, but it’s been clear from those around me that I had something going on, while to myself i was the harsher critic, thinking myself average or less so. Elementary school I thought I was failing and worried I’d be held a grade in 4th grade. In high school a peer from back then told me I was promoted from 6th grade as 3rd in our year, something I had no idea about till she told me. High school I tested into my island’s magnet/stem program that students from better curriculums (private school) would also try to test into, but for me it was like a regular test I hadn’t prepped for. In high school I had similar experience to you, not doing homework or submitting stuff but doing well on tests while not studying/preparing for anything. What I knew was either things I learned during the lecture or what I processed about the lecture afterwards, still unsure. I dropped my ranking from 7th in my yr to 17th because I almost failed two courses due to not submitting anything, so I rallied myself together and turned in enough to get Cs in those classes. I’m now in my PhD, and I have a hard time remaining disciplined with my research advisor…burnt out but wanting to simply finish I try to do what I can but I go through moment of tunnel vision then moments of rest away from research (and instead developing my own ideas in my niche topics of interest). The thoughts swirl round and round… often leading to me either expressing those productively, or more often, being stuck in a whirlwind and finding shelter in place… it’s lovely to know there are similar experiences out there

[@stevesteve8098]

Wait until you have to spit your personality just to handle the flow. It also solves the problem of people getting annoyed that you function in multiple unrelated fields. The downside is the battle between the personas when under stress or sick....

[@desertdenizen6428]

@@stevesteve8098 That was my difficulty, trying to be different mentally or socially depending on what environment I was in. I could not sustain that difference and would eventually bail out. After 15-20 years in technical fields, I was worn out and moved into home construction and using a different part of my brain.

[@Viralityoflife]

I have a similar story to you. It’s amazing to know I’m not the only one. I still feel dumb even though I know I’m not

[@glashoppah]

The worst part is how alone you feel when you are young. When I was really young I thought of it as "The Planet Of The Apes", because of the fact that you have to constantly translate your thoughts into something people around you can understand. Over time and with experience you become used to it and just automatically alter what you say so that those around you aren't insulted or bewildered. But it's an effort, all day, every day.

[@lkb3rd]

I too noticed when I was young that I had to take my thoughts and translate them. It's very tiring and now that i'm sort of old sometimes I just say what I think and if they don't get it I tell them I just said it and if you don't get it you don't get it, if I am in a bad mood.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

In anouther vid, JP was talking about going into higher education, and how different from normal school; instead of being surrounded by people of lower intelligence, you are surrounded by people of equal, even higher intelligence, people that you can debate with, people that can challenge your ideas, people who can push you; I realised how much that I missed out on. Now with DEI, higher education is probably just like normal school now.

[@moldyzucchinis3251]

I’m 26 now, and I still havent developed the proper skills of translating my own thoughts for others. Seems to fuel my tendency for isolation more than anything else

[@TheUltimateMarioFan]

Yeah, like being scolded for using huge vocabulary words.

[@floodgates182]

When I was young, I didn't realise that people didn't understand me. I just thought everyone else understood something intangible I didn't.

[@sixtyskills2814]

If you fall into this category, read "The Curse of the High IQ" by Cleary. Cleary isn't a happy guy, but it is the only employment guide to someone in this category.

[@stevesmith9459]

It's a good read.

[@H33t3Speaks]

** Aaron Clarey

[@davidwilson410]

Amen

[@SootyPhoenix]

Is Clarey in the 150+ IQ group? He's obviously above average, but I doubt his IQ is that high.

[@sixtyskills2814]

@@SootyPhoenix Clarey is in the high 130s. But the advice in the book works for anyone with an IQ above about 125. The short takeaway is that society is not organized for anybody in this category. Conventional advice on relationships, work and lifestyle don't work. What he presents isn't always good news, but it can allow a forward-thinking individual to engage in proper planning. I ended up figuring out about 75% of what he said in the book on my own, but it took 30 years. I really wished I could have had someone explain this to me in my 20's. It would have saved me a lot of pain.

[@ronricherson6685]

It's distressing that so many people are intimidated, discouraged, insecure or just plain angry when around a very intelligent/creative/talented person. I have a high IQ and can detect such reactions or discomfort from most people, even though I'm just acting without pretense and being kind. I find that if I act "dumb" or "goofy" people are generally much warmer or more relaxed. The message of the movie Amadeus is that the world hates excellence, is jealous of it and therefore, wants to destroy it. When you enter a group dynamic and have great ideas or excel, you will be ganged up on, even by those in charge because everyone wants to believe they are the "best" at something and they YOU show them up...not intentionally! My son (who is a real rocket scientist and has a computer science degree as well) attended a summer program that only 1 in 100 are accepted for. The woman who ran the program said that the education system (the world paradigm) spends 90% of the available money on the kids on the bottom 10% of the IQ scale to try and "move them up" so-to-speak, but only 10% goes to create programs for the top 10%, for the same reasons. They are "advantaged" so the they don 't need the resources. My final point, and that of Amadeus is that the world RUNS to mediocrity and will celebrate it because seeing someone of excellence makes them feel bad. And we can't have that!

[@mavrosyvannah]

Same, only I ask your age and then a few other significant identifiers of camps of thought you subscribe to. We are a small private group who live the reality of coping in life on planet of the broken gullible Apes.

[@jessiecasson2643]

Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds - Albert Einstein

[@mavrosyvannah]

@jessiecasson2643 that great spirit he was referring to was Bertrand Russell.

[@Things_I_wish_I_knew]

Sometimes (often I've found) The unease stems from coming off either cold, or unintentionally smug. Not saying you're like that normally, but the more you humanize yourself in front of others rather than stressing the importance of your iq (intentional or otherwise.) The easier people can relate to you and therefore appreciate you. Swinging your iq around like a club will inevitably create said unease... That, and those of higher iq seem to adversely struggle with social interaction/etiquette.

[@thegardener3650]

I’d also like to know your age. Why are you almost/virtually exclusively hanging around people who have a far lesser IQ? Are you sure your IQ is that high? Bc unless you’re quite young, if your IQ is THAT high, I would think you would have the luxury of being around other very successful people. And yes, before y’all start crying, I’m going to say if you have a SUPER high IQ, you’re going to be successful at what you want to succeed in.

[@geckster109]

I am a member of Mensa, and scored a 146 equivalent on their proprietary entrance exam, and a 140 on the Wonderlic when I tested for admission 14 years ago. So although I am probably under the 150 threshold as discussed here in this video, I can tell you that in addition to a very low EQ, I constantly struggle with having patience around other people in regards to "simple" problem solving exercises that one typically encounters numerous times in a given day. That is, anecdotally at least, the most difficult aspect of living with a much higher than normal IQ.

[@andrewbartczak5941]

I get what you mean. I'm 143 and Autistic. I have been impatient with people all my life. But they've all been upset with me my apparent lack of emotional growth. I'm 62 years old and I was diagnosed as ASD two weeks ago.

[@johngrim5488]

In other words you are not evolved enough to control your self but you are just “sub genius”. I love this world. Good luck with your high IQ problems 😂😂😂

[@zerotothe0ne]

Um you can only score a max of 50/60 on the wonderlic. (Or at least the NFL test is out of 50or 60)

[@geckster109]

@@zerotothe0ne Correct, which is why I said EQUIVALENT in my statement. My raw score was 40. The IQ equivalent would be ~140

[@possibly_a_retard]

145 and yeah, I just want to 'go' but the people around me are like a ball and chain. There's this frustration of needing to get people around you on the same page before you can then work together with consensus on what comes next. It's so much easier imagined than practiced.

[@Glaedr11]

Scored around 140 on a professionally given IQ test. Sometimes i struggle to see how its helped me. I was shoved into "gifted programs" wherever they were possible, and therefore as a child developed a very intense struggle with perfectionism, socially i was always treated differently due to being smart and spent my developmental years being treated like i was different than all the other kids, kids treated me like i was offensive by knowing answers and adults only spoke about "what i was capable of". I never learned how to study because i never needed to, and when i got to college and needed to have that as a skill, i didnt and that clashed with my perfectionism. No idea what social disorder i have but i have to be weird because friendships never seem normal and its almost like i repel people with whatever my personality is. I cant tell if my emotional intelligence is high ir low. Im keenly aware of how dumb some people are and it makes me jaded and feel helpless to actually influence the world. But hey, at least i have good intuition, a high ceiling for total intellectual capacity, and can learn anything i want to very quickly. I guess its fine. It would be nice to be normal sometimes though.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

I wish "gifted programs" had existed back when I was in school in the 1960s. I read all my schoolbooks at the beginning of the year and was bored the rest of the year. It was better in high school, as I chose harder courses and more interesting courses, such as electronics.

[@possibly_a_retard]

Like you I never learned to study, but that's partially because study wasn't as useful for learning. To learn something I need exposure, and to put the pieces together on my own. In typical classroom settings you're meant to do a, then b, with the expectation that thank god we can reasonably expect you to understand c. But I'm over here confused because we skipped right over Q and X, and why are we taking it on faith that B ... The reality is that you need to build society around the clusters, not the fringes. 'Gifted' programs are designed with you in mind, but college isn't. Not unless you land some MIT or equivalent. And while that might leave folks like you an I lost and confused, it maximizes the potentials of hundreds of other more normal folk in return.

[@pkldr87]

I feel like I could have written this. Every point - the same. ❤

[@mrader]

No kidding. I teach my kids this lesson, if you never learn to study because learning in the beginning yeats is so easy when you get to a point in college or post grad studies that you have to learn you don't have the skills required to do so. Great post.

[@joshuawhite9725]

Mine is 143, at least when I went through all the testing in school due to my ADHD. It's miserable. I got bored of my classes. I failed to connect with my peers. I blurted out and was forced to sit in the hall. I finished the entire text book and all assignments out of boredom. It's like having a race car engine on a sedan. It can be harnessed well, but often time is wasted. I've accomplished so much though. I assimilate knowledge quickly, and not just learning, but becoming adept and proficient in half the time. I also simultaneously forget so much. 1000 horsepower on a 10 gallon tank.

[@summumesse1303]

This pretty much describes me but with the addition/curse of a video graphic memory.

[@joshuawhite9725]

@summumesse1303 My memory is weird. It works like a search engine. Until I need something, I don't use it much. I don't remember song lyrics, but if the music is playing, I can sing them. This is actually not uncommon, lol.

[@joshuawhite9725]

@summumesse1303 but when I'm presented with a challenge, especially something that requires objective spatial awareness, I visualize solutions and ideas in rapid succession.

[@mickjones2871]

I know an extremely smart man who writes programs for Nissan & does hospital IT work. He's does some crap though 😂

[@rawbmar1166]

Sounds just like me. I think the forgetting is due to running out of bandwidth in our brain. Taking in so much info that older memories start to corrupt. I also find it hard to access information at times unless I'm in the flow state and my brain is in overclock mode.

[@nasunorahl]

I can't stop thinking of "S" words now. thanks...

[@Clicker3]

And getting anxiety when I think of 4 words and then going blank.......

[@Shmyrk]

Stop

[@startaremotecareer]

shit shut ship shop sink sire safe sail sake seen same sell sull sent sorn soon some ok I can't get 300 but I'm better then 8 😅

[@jamestickle3070]

What do you like Swords? Do you like the Middle Ages? Knights in armor and stuff?

[@michaelnurse9089]

STOP

[@banditdiscgolf898]

Hey. Someone actually sees the misconceptions in this world with "confidence" and "introverts" and "extroverts". Very smart guy. It was good to listen to him

[@theeightbithero]

I’ve taken different IQ tests. If I focus on making sure every answer is correct, my score was 93. I have adhd so that’s how I often approach tests. I often question myself when I write an answer. If I answered each question as quickly as I could with reasonable confidence in my answers my highest score was 155. (I recognized that time is a greater factor to scoring IQ than accuracy, so I answered as fast as possible.) I don’t think this an appropriate way to design an IQ test, but I guess that’s how they work. I don’t think time is actually more relevant to intelligence than accuracy. That bugs me. Usually I score around 135 when I just take a test casually. Not striving for speed or nitpicking my answers.

[@RegiJatekokMagazin]

Cuz practise also plays a role, also what was the first things a child was using brain on, he or she will have faster processing on that later in life. If someone is able to somehow making concious goal to reach high IQ levels and mental levels at young age, he will be more successful to have a higher intelligence. If someones mind is about to use it for getting information and easily gets distracted, his mind controlling areas will be underdeveloped. To reprogram the mind later at 20 - 30 ages, is harder, but not impossible I think, but they wont tell you this. Finally, everyone has to make money from something, so dont except high IQ individuals on YT comment section, they wont write that much anyway.

[@redshift8302]

@@RegiJatekokMagazin There's two kind of intelligence. Normally women can process things very fast and react quickly, for example they can have a smart retort if someone says something that they perceive is disrespectful, or can take control in time of crisis, or find can find a quick fix to many small problems. However though males comparatively grasp the inputs in their environment at a slower speed, they have the advantage of having greater mind power to solve complex problems. I'm summarising it here and no way mean that men are smarter than women. Anyway some women may have the ability to understand complex problems and solve them, while some men may possess the ability to tackle many small tasks effectively and quickly while they struggle in environments where they are faced with situations where there are too many moving parts and parameters.

[@RegiJatekokMagazin]

@@redshift8302 Or a supermammel 3000 IQ would be both fast and solve complex problems.

[@redshift8302]

@@RegiJatekokMagazin Yes, but that would be problematic I think. We need both these kind of intelligence to work in tandem for our advancement. I'm summarising again, but picture the men going out to hunt, preparing a strategy that augments their chances to bring back food for the kids, and deciding when to move on, where to go, as seasons changes, whereas women are taking care of the daily tasks, checking on the raucous and adventurous kids, 30,000 years ago. That's what enabled us to have this conversation today after they faced many difficult challenges.

[@petersinclair3997]

In a clinical situation, responses are timed.

[@sprezzatura8755]

I know family members with very high IQs who never panned out in a distinctive or meaningful way. I often felt being branded a genius was kind of a curse in some ways. I also think IQ is overrated. Some geniuses make poor choices and lack conscientiousness. Free will. Free to choose. A lot of society is unfriendly to high IQ people. They want average and manageable. Very few people are exempt from the consequences of their own choices.

[@trucid2]

Why aren't we all geniuses if being smart is an advantage? There must be downsides to it, pretty severe ones.

[@gzoechi]

​@@trucid2Life doesn't make any sense. It's much easier to just go on with it and make many children if you don't think too much. Things smart people figure out will mostly be used to start wars - not too sure about that one 😉

[@jasonmeade955]

The biggest problem is that incredibly intellectually gifted people have difficulty communicating in a "dumbed down" way that is considered normal/acceptable (i.e. small talk, simplistic "either/or" mindsets, avoiding nuance and complication in abstract thought, etc.). This tends to invoke negative responses from "normal" people. Gives them the "ick," labelled weird/creepy, accused of being elitist/mansplaining/know-it-all/contrarian, etc. As a result, people significantly superior in intellect often have trouble getting/keeping jobs (in the modern work environment in the west, anything outside the "social norms" is considered unacceptable, regardless of skill, knowledge, or work ethic). We get called anti-social, a-holes, anti-(fill in the demographic of the person who wants to tear you down here), etc. There are zero laws against firing someone for being unpopular. And I've seen a ridiculous number of extremely intelligent and capable people lose their jobs because the friendlier, more charming (but usually incompetent and/or lazy AF) people decide they are bad news and have to go. Management will usually dump a phenomenal high performer if it means they don't have to listen to a half dozen whiny employees complain about them and demand their removal all day every day. Sad but true. Maybe that's why planes have parts falling off midair, no bridge on the US interstate system achieves an A rating for structural integrity, and why we keep enacting policy after policy that we have massive amounts of data showing is counter-productive to its supposed goals. When the people best at the job are shoved aside for the people that those with more power want to see (or want to be seen as "helping out"), we should not be surprised that the bulk of our new tech is riddled with flaws so grievous that a mere 2 decades ago would never have been allowed to make it to market until years were spent fixing the KNOWN problems (rather than rushing to be first and worrying about fixing it later [or, more often, not worrying about it at all because the plan is to sell for a fortune so it will be someone else's problem], which is apparently all the rage now). We also have a tendency to write too much, and in a manner that is too complex, often getting us the label of "psycho" or "dangerous" or, as my former employer labelled me "potential school shooter." Though I think this tends to be a bigger problem for highly intellectual males than highly intellectual females (though highly intelligent females face their own extra hurdles, usually from other -less intelligent- women).

[@ZM-dm3jg]

IQ and conscientiousness are not correlated. I'm a former child prodigy with an IQ of 152 (officially tested at age 12) and I messed up my life pretty badly until my late 20s. Video games are a huge trap for high I, low conscientiousness people.

[@jasonmeade955]

@@ZM-dm3jg I agree with that to a large extent. Though most available data shows once you hit around 130 IQ, the odds of full-time employment (and all measures of "traditional" success) drop significantly compared to the general population (with higher IQ dropping even further). I actually think video games are a net negative for the entire population when it comes to success in life.

[@Staysa001]

To sum up my experience around there, it often kinda sucks. It’s hard to connect to people. I’d recommend anyone struggling try to find a creative outlet of some kind rather than resorting to stuff like drugs to cope.

[@teresahunt5521]

Alcohol almost killed me more times than I like to admit. Now I understand that I was trying to slow down the constant incoming flood of information. I've finally learned to embrace the weird and ride the hurricane.

[@charlesweaver9297]

I’m an introvert and extremely confident. I feel like I could be or do anything as long as I am willing to make the sacrifices needed to achieve those goals

[@Neji1984]

Sigma

[@U-inverse369]

Yep, Einstein or Tesla Type Shit. Just downloading Informations like Neo, when i have been chosen. I can do Kung - Fu. Show me. I dont care anymore what society wants or expect from a character. I just see trough the artifical construct. Love holds everything together and people better start to see the Beauty in everything, when they're living a privileged life, where they can complain about things while they're living like kings. Consumption got them fooled and shakled in this Matrix of Basic needs.

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Habits is what you want, then.

[@NoName-cx3gk]

I scored over 150, and it’s brought me absolutely nothing. I had various IQ tests done by a psychologist, first in kindergarten and then later in primary school. They were eager to find out what was 'wrong' with me and whether I was somehow 'unsuitable for school' because I didn’t talk much. It’s not like one is good at everything - just certain things. In other areas, someone might even have a score below 100, since IQ is an average of different tests. I scored over 200 in certain areas and around 100 in others. But if, in the areas that really matter to function in this society, you only have around 100, you still won’t be successful. Then you end up spending your whole life bored, surrounded by people who don’t understand you.

[@thehotsixer1]

Exactly, being smart doesn't mean you're good at everything or even most things. And you can clearly observe how even idiots who are social can get through life easier than you because you lack those social skills. That and when you try to share interests with friends or family, they almost always have no interests in what you find interesting, they only want to do what the masses do.

[@chrismcaulay7805]

Childhood IQ is near meaningless later in life. If you are still over 130 as a 26+ year old adult then great, you are actually smart.

[@artificial-frequencies]

IQ is like a computers hardware, see it as your internal memory…. It’s the speed you calculate many things, you will get the job done the fastest, or break down the fastest…. Remember, the fastest part is as fast as the slowest…. So if society is going slow, they demand you to go slow…. Otherwise there’s a problem…. IQ 150 means you are too fast…. Other people go 98 on the highway… and they can not keep up with you…. That is not your fault….. society is slow…. And demanding us to be slower….. and if you’re the smartest in the room, you’re in the wrong room anyway.

[@nickfry7839]

​@@artificial-frequenciesman, this is brilliant writing! im glad your running around on the loose in the world!

[@crcaccounts]

True story. Social and language skills can take you a lot further than IQ alone. If you have all three you've hit the trifecta to be a politician and grift the general public for your own benefit.

[@goatz4u]

Here's what I've learned: the most important thing about having a high IQ is to remain morally upright. That is to say taking other people's views and opinions in the consideration as their perception of fact and not injecting logic into it. I've realized that I have the ability to easily control and manipulate people however as I've grown older I've realized that control is an illusion and respecting people's conscience sovereignty is important. That's not to say I don't disagree with people especially when it comes to ideals that are harmful for children or society as a whole. Having a high IQ ideologically means feeling that you know better than most people but there's nothing you can do about it. It can become extremely depressing and cause self-isolation furthering the problem. 1. Respect individuals sovereign consciousness and perceptions so long as it doesn't cause the degradation of society. The degradation of society being the logical cause and effect and their detriment or boon. 2. Having the perception that I know better is irrelevant. Many people need to learn their own lessons or perhaps have different perceptions but it's important to remember that I am equal to them and not better. Everyone has something to contribute to society. Being extremely intelligent does not make you better than others, in fact extremely intelligent people are often cold and uncaring which is detrimental to society as a whole. 3. Speak with people on a level they can understand. I don't generally leave comments that are very well thought out because they come across as conclusive and arrogant. Which is quickly written off as a smug and arrogant person trying to explain why they're smarter than you which again is a form of control. 4. Focus on what you can change. Namely yourself and those close to you (edit: I meant to allude to quality of life not direct control). Don't give your energy away to people who don't deserve it and dont give your opinions to people who don't want them. When it comes to people outside of my circle I always ask them if they would like to hear my opinion. In a way it's asking for permission to attempt to influence them and it will be more interested in listening to you. 5. Don't forget to live life. Do things you enjoy and if there's nothing you enjoy keep looking until you find something. It's important to have purpose in life because without purpose there's no fulfillment. A word of caution though never make yourself your purpose in life. That is the evil called self-love and there's no such thing as self-love only selfishness. Real love comes from other people this is where purpose is found. Whether you're a mother or father, a doctor without borders, a daycare worker or a nanny, and many other paths that show care and compassion. So long as you're contributing to the well-being of others. In summary learn to enjoy life with the people around you. Don't try to control them. Find purpose and be content. Lastly and most importantly your emotions should be aligned with your thinking not the other way around. Be aware of your shadow self, get to know yourself, and do some soul-searching.

[@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel]

Good manipulation! Exactly what you said you weren't about 😂

[@goatz4u]

@@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel However you want to perceive it. 🤔

[@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel]

@@goatz4u Someone breaking #4? Now don't be hypocritical

[@goatz4u]

@@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel Yeah, definitely could've worded that better, it was intended to be about quality of life but no sense in arguing about it and thanks for taking the time to read it. It does prove that intelligence isn't infallible so I won't edit it. 😁

[@crcaccounts]

That's good advice. IQ + wisdom through experience.

[@stevefleetwood7840]

i have an IQ 145...built first company at 22..sold at 35..didnt have to work anymore...and the idea flow is considerable...i do business consulting..which helps both parties...lecture at university and write books...but it teaches enormous patience and peace...on the other side of character...

[@luke8329]

Your writing style is hideous, what kind of spiced up dog Latin is that?

[@tggchat]

What's ur thoughts on marriage

[@stevefleetwood7840]

@@tggchat you have natural biologial imperatives (male variety and access..women hypergamy) with social order (current and past ) expectations and they are in constant confilct....however, if you both have a common north star...and your both emotional-socially-mentally and somewhat mature...you can make it work..but as you grow and develop....one or both may out grow each other or in different directions.... i use to do Executive coaching for 5+ years....fundamentally its work and play and fun and...as you already know...your most intimate relationships is your biggest growth engines....choose wisely!.. focus on inner beauty....for men not outer beauty....for women not money or status or outer inner beauty...different biological imperatives are in play....ie evolutionary psychology

[@mystdragon8530]

Where did you get capital?

[@stevefleetwood7840]

@@mystdragon8530 for first business?….. 2nd or third business..?

[@Zithorius]

It means suffering and solitude.

[@I_Am_A_Ghost_42]

Love the latter but have to do something about suffering. Also I’ve noticed that when you are really in true solitude, it’s not that bad. Also don’t take life too seriously. You are here for a blip in eternity. Comedy is the key🤣

[@jojostalino1377]

No. Way less than being dumb. Just accept that people are different and find a place where you can give to people. Giving is what makes a human happy. (For the majority of us).

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

Not for the ones who use their gifts for others. Best wishes.

[@Zithorius]

@@BlueBeeMCMLXIDoubt. That still just leads to suffering and solitude. That's pretty much the default.

[@prototype9904]

@@Zithorius I agree, "Ignorance is Bliss" is a thing born not of fantasy

[@garyowen9044]

I was behind a car that had a vanity plate “MENSA1”, it came to a screeching halt/ dead stop at a yield sign when there were no cars in the traffic circle.

[@mavrosyvannah]

Awe, she miscalculated the potentiality of the quantum field of probabalistic outcomes. And how to drive.😂

[@PermanentExile]

The most eye-rolling vanity plate I saw was “IVY PHD”

[@jeffreysmith236]

Perhaps they had been deep in their thoughts, not paying attention to the world around them, and snapped back at the intersection, so panic stopped in confusion? I know I have driven on autopilot, and been unable to recall any details of how I ennded up where I was. My subconscious has performed amazing driving maneuvers to save me from horrific accidents, so I have learned to trust it.

[@deantaylor5177]

@@jeffreysmith236 That's the same with everybody.

[@elizabethmartinez4086]

Did you know that “mensa” means “female fool” in Spanish?

[@Th3MagicBullet]

My IQ is 70. My neighbor typed this.

[@kamaltalreja8149]

You have great sense of humor. Forget IQ , you must seek a career in comedy

[@FelineofMine]

😂

[@ChiefMarmadan]

As a person with an iq of 140-148, i find it very difficult to have patience with those who, from my perspective, are just mentally incompetent. There are a lot of paterns that i recognize and little things i notice that others dont. Over the years as ive come to recognize my relative intelegence level compared to others, its been a regular struggle to try not to develope a sense of arogence or condescension towards those i view as less intelegent. High intelegence is a blessing and a burden.

[@GramGramGenX-ln5sc]

My IQ is 135. I pour myself into everything - full-time job and a small business and a KZbin cartoon (Gus & Lou), plus all the normie stuff. There is never enough time. At 60 y.o., I feel this keenly. And yes, depression is the shadow that walked with me for most of my life, due to illness and central sleep apnea. Been depression free for a couple of years. Makes a tremendous difference.

[@SIB_COMEDY]

I was tested in the 140's multiple times when I was younger, and have serious childhood trauma baggage that I've tried to overcome my entire life. My emotions have been a plate of spaghetti and even though I'm a very rational guy, good at math etc., I feel like I've wasted my intelligence thus far on oscillating back and forth from temporary insanity. Just in the last few years at age 46 have I really tried to understand my own brain and emotions to try and salvage something of my life, at least in society's terms.

[@stevemartin7464]

Hi there, I am much the same, I too battle to fit into society. I was severaly beaten and abused as a child for being "Too clever", this made me fearful of succeeding academically and I have battled hrough life with that. I have succeeded in some measures, but I definitely would have enjoyed more relaxed approach to academic outcomes. I suspect there are a lot of people out there with the same issues and it is sad.

[@incognito7851]

Yes, emotions are the problem. Without them everything is clear.

[@GreenTeaViewer]

@@stevemartin7464 similar issues here. High IQ and low performance due to emotional abuse and family instability. Just still being here is about all I have.

[@jeffreysmith236]

​@@incognito7851incorrect, unfortunately. Research has learned that if the emotional area of the brain, the hippocampus maybe, is damaged by stroke then the person no longer feels emotions. That results in the total inability to make a decision, because decisions are emotional. Pure logic leads to immobility.

[@incognito7851]

@@jeffreysmith236 I think the brain is more complex than we tend to assume. Moreover, when one makes decisions based on emotions, if the related brain area is damaged, they may be unable to make decisions because the brain's functioning is impaired. The brain is like a computer-it learns, is programmed, and acts accordingly. It takes time to learn a new way of thinking and decision-making. Therefore, your conclusion is both somewhat right and somewhat wrong at the same time.

[@oldtimeycabins]

Sometimes I wonder what it would be like to have an IQ of about 92 and just work a stupid job and buy beer every Friday and just sit in front of the TV and scratch my belly. Is ignorance bliss?

[@SootyPhoenix]

Of course ignorance is bliss. Can't worry about things you literally aren't capable of thinking about.

[@ChefBardo]

yes. yes it is.

[@wilfredv1930]

It's more complex but in general sense ignorance is bliss, they tend to not formulate a question about anything even things in their own life, or their community or society. Commonly they only consider a thing if someone in a screen ask them to do.

[@daskii7635]

No, ignorance is not a bliss, thats bullshit. Am i a low iq invidual and it feels like a curse, you are slower then everybody else, you have a problem with simple tasks, you can be manipulated very easily, every choice you make is short sighted. Its like having a 20 years old processor when most of the people have a new thing.

[@wilfredv1930]

@@daskii7635 generally low iq person is not aware of his/her condition, how you came up with the idea ?

[@sergeantsonso3490]

there is also introverted confidence which is often overlooked as tepidness or timidity but is actually something closer to stoicism wherein the avoidance of conflict is not something done out of fear of consequence of said conflict but done as a general rule or force of habit in order to achieve farther out goals which to the casual observer may be invisible or hard to define. as an introvert there is nothing more satisfying then professionally besting an opponent be they someone on the basketball court or in a video game or in the workforce professionally because said opponent overlooked you assuming you to be a non-threat because you took extra measures to avoid appearing outwardly confrontational. to give some basic examples is like, avoiding unnecesary eye contact, avoiding puffing out the chest, not raising the voice or putting too much emotional tone into your voice, and having a tendency to "look down or away" which i should say can be misleading because people like me are good at looking directly at a person and sizing them up without having their pupils even go in their general direction. i can "look outwards towards a wider room" directly away from the person im looking at and still make every detail out about them without them noticing that im evaluating them. this doesn't necessarily have a measurable connection to intellect or even an overlap but the discussion of confidence was one area that i felt i could contribute to.

[@junevandermark952]

Thanks for honoring free speech. What IS a “successful” IQ result ... other than a flattery of self ... and a put-down of others? Carol Dweck taught at Columbia University and the University of Illinois, and at the time this book was published was the Lewis and Virginia Eaton Professor of Psychology at Stanford University. From the book … 50 Psychology Classics Second Edition: Your shortcut to the most important ideas on the mind, personality, and human nature … author … Tom Butler-Bowden Published May 30, 2017 “Yet fixed mindset people will sometimes allow a single test, such as for IQ, to define them for the rest of their lives. Those with growth mindsets see that as ridiculous.” In a study she made of university students, Dweck found that those with fixed mindsets had higher levels of depression. After Judging themselves harshly, they stopped attending classes and doing their work, and ceased looking after themselves. Depressed students with a growth mindset reacted the opposite way: the more depressed they were, the greater the effort they made to climb out of it, keeping up their classes and social life despite how they felt. Again, for the growth minded, effort is seen as the key to progress.

[@steveeckman7578]

“You pay a price for whatever you have, one way or another.” I leaned this early on and i weigh the price for whatever I seek. Most people love me. The others hate me. The two people closest to me say I am manipulative. I think I am strategic.

[@lechatel]

It is manipulative when it is a nuisance to them and strategic when it gets them out of the merde.

[@Zanroff]

I'm dyslexic and have poor reading comprehension, so I struggle with tests. However, I am a fast problem solver when it comes to physical objects. Solutions flow into my brain.

[@pimpilikaa]

🤮🤮🤮

[@annchurchill2638]

My imagination writes at night and my intellect edits it in the morning.

[@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj]

Post-nut clarity

[@lazarmitrovic180]

I usually drop big load of shit in the morning, but we are all different

[@funkymunky]

​@@lazarmitrovic180 Does your brain tend to float?

[@lazarmitrovic180]

@@funkymunky yep, good sensations are going thru my brain during dropage, almost heaven like feeling

[@BlueBeeMCMLXI]

I wish you lived across the road. I can edit. Like BAM.

[@warrenphillips69]

I'm just smart enough to know my limitations.

[@thehotsixer1]

your not that smart

[@IsrealSmith32465]

Self awareness is a gift it’s one of the things I most grateful for about my mind as well

[@lechatel]

Bingo.

[@seeker7702]

👍

[@alexc5228]

Thats the definition of competence.

[@annettecantu3126]

Thank you for posting this. This is true and the only few times I become hyper nervous to tears is when the person is super disagreeable with no room for growth in communication, in those cases rare too. However, I am a creator and born one. Makes you ponder. Fyi, i am not really into politics, in where as i sometimes see 20 people in super-disagreeableness with each other without really being extremely extroverts about their thought processes to verbal statements in politics. The reasoning. Also, i just received this vid post at this time. Mr. Peterson is really observant and professional. Very nice post.🕊

[@wookieecookiees1856]

The hardest part of having a high IQ, for me, has been struggling through multiple concussions and rare type of migraine that mimicked a stroke and sent me to the hospital. In all cases, I’ve had relatively long recovery times. I spend time almost daily wondering if I’ve lost something, if those medical issues have taken away my edge, cut down the number of new ideas, or affected memory recall. My wife keeps telling me that even if I was half as smart as I used to be, I’d still be smarter than most. Maybe it’s age and the natural transition away from more fluid thinking, maybe I’m just struggling with a sensation of depersonalization after the multiple TBI’s, or maybe I have lost my edge a bit.

[@msmeyersmd8]

"Disagreeable people are skeptical, eh. Their default position is 'Yeah, I fuckin' doubt it.'" Priceless. Geeze. I'm 66 years old. Eventually, most people probably think I am disagreeable. They don't give a s**t that I am factually "right" about really important things. Every time. Safe and Effective? "Yeah, I fuckin' doubt it." How could a naive man like me have survived this long without becoming skeptical? It took me until age 44 (~2002) when the "lightbulb above my head" illuminated. Gee. What happened in late 2001?

[@lechatel]

Amen.

[@salty-tomato]

😶😁

[@vmax4steve524]

I twigged while watching Bill Hicks at the montreal comedy festival on tv early 90's, finally someone who thinks like I do and I knew why I was mostly alone with very few friends.

[@saintphoenix6723]

I did an iq test in my mid twenties in college, I found it rather annoying as I did it, and I scored 145. Ever since I did the test, I would never have said what Jordan had said about people with high iqs. Instead of many ideas and creative things bustling about, which is normal for me, I considered one idea immediately after the test and I haven't changed my mind... that those iq tests are so limited, that the best they do, is test your ability to comprehend patterns and the outcomes of projected patterns (akin to prophecying/projecting based on looking at statistical data), and they test some math and geometry skills. Ever since, I come to believe the iq test is just a tool used by the elite economists and elite mind-controls to test people on subjects they are interested in, and whoever scores in the higher range are looked at as candidates to be a cog in their system. I wish I had scored 2.

[@sebastianvanced4425]

Everyone in the comment section obviously has an IQ >140 and not lying. By the way, you are wrong about your analysis of IQ.

[@saintphoenix6723]

@@sebastianvanced4425 Well then, the IQ test lied to me, the faciltator of the test gave me wrong test, and my IQ is actually 2. So thats why I am wrong about my analysis. As you can see, I have nothing to do with IQ testing, and would never talk about it like it matters or means something. Only people who enjoy listening to themselves speak... would waste time elevating and explaining something like an iq test. As if that justified the evil madness Elon is pushing on the world, with peaceful positive language. These people kill people with polite soft-spoken positive language.

[@yousaidwhaaaattt8631]

​@@sebastianvanced4425"You are wrong" Nice low IQ response lol.

[@chrismcaulay7805]

@@yousaidwhaaaattt8631 Well he is wrong, and all the data says so... On average IQ the the greatest indicator of success. Pattern recognition is HIGHLY correlated with your ability to learn. The faster you learn, the faster you can advance in any topic. Thus leaving you more time to operate in a field. He doesnt like IQ, cus he never tested that high. I am between 147 and 149 (so basically what he claims he is), and I know for a fact that such shallow thinking can not be associated with that level of intellect. With thoughts that shallow there is no way he is over 115...

[@deantaylor5177]

@@chrismcaulay7805 That's a very Peterson thing to says, that IQ is the greatest indicator of success. I don't believe it to be at all true. There are many high IQ unsuccessful people and many successful average IQ people. I would say that probably self-esteem and lack of anxiety to be better predictors of success.

[@snookiewozo]

Puny mortals. I have transcended above IQ. I have 1 JQ.

[@EriPages]

lol@pun

[@kristasmith7270]

IQ inception

[@danielschorr2836]

I have a verified IQ of 155, and when Musk said, "My mind is a storm…" I deeply felt that.

[@achastos]

It's nice to see so many geniuses, both in the video and the comments. (The human self made bubble of vanity always cracks me up)

[@AlexReynard]

Jordan talks about how high-IQ people can make drastic leaps of understanding across topics, and hoo boy do I do that. I've watched interviews with Alex Jones, and I think he is right at the edge of functioning. The connections he makes are across such diverse subjects, across such vast distances, and with so little evidence, that it's not surprising he's cataclysmically-wrong plenty of times, but also more-right-than-anyone-else on rare occasions as well. Any further down the hole and he'd be Francis E. Dec. I look at Alex Jones and think, 'Whoof, I am close to that already. Don't wanna get any closer.'

[@nccamsc]

You can transition from being agreeable to disagreeable - if you are abused, underestimated, ignored, etc.

[@iluvyunie]

yep, and learning to misinterpret social signals through barrages of negative reinforcement experiences can lead to problems with certainty or self-efficacy which leads to things like substance abuse or depression and when the brain is prevented from regularly solving problems- like in a person who feels unable to bring themselves to overcome obstacles, intelligence can stagnate

[@jessemontano762]

nah. being smart is good as long as no one else knows about it. They will poison your porridge if they do

[@lkb3rd]

It always got me targetted by power tripping toxic morons who project their own petty evil (minus intelligence) onto me, and if you combine their personality with my intelligence they would destroy everything in their path to dominate.

[@BeforeThisNovember]

Idk what my score is but I’ve always felt a bit more aware than most around me. I constantly feel like people are dumb. I’ve noticed that I’ve become a bit narcissistic recently and have picked up on people thinking I’m a “know it all” (in-spite of them often coming to me for advice). I’ve noticed when I give advice that hasn’t been asked for, it offends people (even tho I’m often right). I’ve just become jaded by being constantly the more intelligent and aware person in my circles. I am making a more conscious effort in how a relay information. Namely by acknowledging their point of view and then more gently “suggesting” an alternative. But then this is outputting extra mental fatigue for yet another obstacle in social interactions one must navigate in order not to damage fragile egos.

[@bite-sizedshorts9635]

I was called a know it all in school merely because I never raised my hand in class to answer a teacher's question unless I was dead certain of the answer. I finally quit raising my hand and would just wait for the teacher to call on me when she got tired of the wrong answers.

[@BeforeThisNovember]

@@bite-sizedshorts9635 people are probably just jealous of you

[@trillionairebyinflation8527]

I scored in the 130s, and my biggest problem at the moment is that I'm intelligent enough to question myself thoroughly but not intelligent enough to get past it. I often know the right thing to do but can't build up the confidence to tackle it.

[@imperialofficer6185]

Wiw, that's a bog priblem

[@trillionairebyinflation8527]

@imperialofficer6185 you're supposed to read it in a Bulgarian accent

[@imperialofficer6185]

@@trillionairebyinflation8527 I was genuinely not intelligent enough to grasp this

[@turkwelsch]

My iq is73, what’s the discussion about?😂

[@scottjoyner-o2p]

popcorn

[@I_Am_A_Ghost_42]

@@scottjoyner-o2pNew York city pizza is the best 🍕

[@rockstar-kp2jy]

love you for this

[@lisatowe778]

No idea what my IQ is. I’ve been told it is high but quite frankly I try to see how I can function and integrate myself into society and I function well but don’t integrate. So that is more troubling to me than whatever IQ I may have. I made sure to raise my kids to be social and integrative. Not sheep. You don’t have to abdicate your values and morals or integrity, you can be a true change agent in this increasingly crazy world if you can take your good qualities and move easily among people. If people irritate you, you will isolate and basically not be any use to society at large beyond your ability to self sustain. Young people are increasingly unable to commit and form real societies. That will affect them in endless ways. Who will make sure their diaper is changed when they are old? More people like them? Unlikely. Who will validate them as they age and lose the qualities that gave them identity if not family? I see it daily in the group older than me, the misfits who were, quite frankly, not the best humans and who are reaping their youth in their old age. It makes me begin to see my own proclivity to isolation is silly. Humans need humans every step of their life, from conception to death. Animals are more understanding of their need for other animals than humans are which is devolving of humanity

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

3:30 On the subject of confidence, I thing it greatly depends on the situation; I can remember watching a documentary on cheerleaders, when the were auditioning for the dancing they were supremely confident, but they went to a classroom to maintain their academic education, and the change was profound - all of a sudden, they were like rabbits caught in headlights. Imagine a group of men, in a fight or physical activity, the bigger men would be confident, geeks not so, but with a technical challenge the roles would be reversed.

[@roddydykes7053]

That’s true I’ve also definitely come to realize that. Everyone has their niche

[@FelineofMine]

Amen

[@deedhesi8014]

True, but here we are talking about that underlying 'confidence which is intrinsic to the baseline default setting of a person which shows prior to all activities.

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

@@deedhesi8014 Surely someone's confidence changes constantly with differing circumstances, they will be confident in areas that they have had success in the past, but not in areas that are totally new to them, or they have had failures in the past. "Confidence" in as a default setting wouldn't be confidence, but arrogance; a coping mechanism for an insecurity born from a lack of confidence.

[@51Dss]

Hi IQ people - even in the range of 110 and above are often misunderstood. We tend to respond analytically to nearly every stimulus. Nearly every stimulus brings waves of ideas of possibilities and probabilities. Our tendency to analyze almost everything is often mistaken for insensitivity. Nothing could be more wrong. We are born with the full complement and range of human emotions. Generally, socially, we exercise self control (some would call that self restraint) in favor of developing an analytical approach to given situations or problems - yes, even problems of a social nature can be managed well using an analytical approach. Put it this way. Analytical problem solving is not exclusively relegated to mathematical nor scientific matters. It is useful in social / human interactions as well...I might include interactions with pets - or animals in general here - I think Jordan Peterson himself is a perfect example of a person who most effectively applies analytical skills to the resolution of social problems. High IQ is hard work because it is relentlessly active. Such people must prioritize sleep/rest periods otherwise we lose our sanity.

[@prototype9000]

110 is not considered high iq

[@RadiusG60]

I retired many years ago after a career in spacecraft systems engineering and management for a major defense contractor. We had a steady inflow of high IQ engineers coming in from many universities. One management responsibility was the growth of young highly intelligent PhD level engineers from specialists in areas such as microelectronics, comm systems, radiation, vehicle dynamics, etc. into top tier generalists who could manage large, highly technical programs. Managing the people, budgets, schedules, and customer relations in addition to the technology. The best and brightest were needed for the top spots to solve difficult issues. There was very often resistance on their part (disagreeableness often interpreted as arrogance) in having to build a skill set including what they considered mundane skills involving managing hourly workers, contract details, subcontracts for low tech but important deliverables, implementation of HR policies, etc. I saw a few excel at it and go on to reach the board rooms and 7 figure incomes. Most did not want to make the transition, seemingly held back by the traits Dr. Peterson is describing such as introversion, disagreeableness, and neuroticism. The potential of the high IQ often went unfulfilled.

[@nicogularte]

I’m 100ish so smart enough to realize how dumb I am

[@EriPages]

You're probably a 105er to get that.

[@Rags2RichesPoker]

My IQ is 132, my mind is constantly thinking non stop ideas running through my head, I use cannabis to help me slow down and focus on tasks. I also struggle with mental health, if I dont stick to a structured daily routine I get very depressed and drink or abuse substances.

[@cc1drt]

thats called anxiety has nothing to do with your iq

[@Rags2RichesPoker]

@@cc1drt no. Anxiety is totally different, anxiety is when you are worried or uneasy about something. I'm not worried about anything, just thinking non stop, totally different from anxiety. Check the dictionary if you don't believe me. (Trust me im right, I have 132 IQ haha)

[@cc1drt]

@@Rags2RichesPoker “check the dictionary” LOL dude go to a psychologist! anxiety is not merely ‘when you are worried or uneasy’. it can produce symptoms without any conscious thought happening and often causes people to overthink; even about positive situations that you are looking forward to. on the other hand, many people with way higher iqs than 2 standard deviations above the mean dont report overthinking. i seriously doubt you’re smart when you’re not able to recognize when you are wrong, especially in the age of instant information access. disgustingly cringe 🫵😂

[@giovannamoro8564]

Do you have adhd or other forms of neurodiversity? I think constantly too but my iq is probably low . I have anxiety but as you said the constant thinking is not anxiety .

[@cc1drt]

@@giovannamoro8564 correct captain obvious; constant thinking is not the same concept as anxiety. but it is a symptom produced by anxiety. The degens of youtube comment sections get worse every year i stg

[@seancollins9745]

Reasons why I no longer write music, I can't stay out of that manic mode if I do.

[@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj]

Lame

[@jsprunger6246]

Weak coward

[@seancollins9745]

@@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj you might think that, but i get a lot of joy out of performing, but writing just takes me into a world of self destruction. I totally get F Scott Fitzgerald, and if you don't understand how people can implode from that, be Gracious you don't understand

[@ldsmusician]

I'm happier writing music, even if I sometimes do so manically. My brain needs intellectual and creative outlets. It helps that I have cultivated a decent array of musicians and groups that perform my music. It's very satisfying to produce something beautiful to full fruition.

[@EriPages]

Excuses. Weak excuses.

[@MichaelSkinner-e9j]

A lot of creativity also relies heavily on your sleep and your dreams. A lot of what you dream about either does make sense or doesn’t make sense - and it’s up to your mind to put it together in a way that’s meaningful. In many aspects, I think when you dream you’re like the person at a lake, and your mind is the lake. Or the forest around you. Consequently, it’s imperative to have good sleep /dream patterns. - a lot of it won’t make sense, but it will come to you overtime. That’s just a function of your brain.

[@obeastness]

This "manic edge" thing that Dr. Peterson mentions has been really helpful in putting a name to what I've been experiencing for as long as I can remember. This constant flood of ideas as he describes it, I haven't taken an IQ test however my intuition is that my IQ is nowhere close to 150. However I have found that I often times find myself lost in thought about fantasy worlds, potential creative ventures, and future planning. I contemplate these things as much or more than the task at hand, which leads to things like showers that are much longer than need be, or taking more breaks than I should in my studies to simply immerse in my inner monologue.

[@testowykana1763]

You know that most people,when asked, think they have IQ over 100, which, statistically, isn't possible?

[@obeastness]

@@testowykana1763 if that's true it wouldn't be that crazy of a result, but what does that have to do with my post?

[@Rainy_Day12234]

To be successful you need emotional intelligence, grit, determination, character, discipline, drive, etc. Intelligence is important, but without these other traits you won’t go far in life.

[@sprezzatura8755]

I think you're right. I knew two Mensa members who could not get out of their own way. Very good at tests and school however.

[@Brand00d]

Depends on what you want to do, but IQ is qualifier/disqualifier for the ability to do things

[@perprerp]

Rainy Day, what makes you speak so confidently about success when you yourself have achieved none of it?

[@actualsizevoice]

discipline and drive are really the only ones you need to be successful.

[@perprerp]

@@actualsizevoice you will discipline and drive yourself into the abyss without the intellect. The intellect does just fine without the other qualities.

[@Rhondaandjames]

Depending on the test I score in the 150 - 170 range on IQ tests. I definitely have never felt like a genius. I am very creative and active in several artistic endeavors but people usually annoy me so I avoid most of them. I am pretty sure there is something else besides a high IQ that creates an Einstein or an Elon Musk…

[@lkb3rd]

With Einstein it was a willingness to steal other people's ideas, among other things unrelated to being smart.

[@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel]

You don't have an IQ that high. You're not 1 out of 30,000 sorry.

[@Rhondaandjames]

​@@Most_Trustworthy_Weasel I am just relaying the test scores. The lowest IQ score was the one taken in high scool in 1984 and came out at 153. The highest, being the Government test taken in 1992 was 170. honestly couldn't give a damn. I do find it vastly amusing that it bothers you enough to comment on it though.

[@chrismcaulay7805]

well... unless you are talking about childhood tests (which are near meaningless as an adult), standard IQ (including government ones) tests dont test for over 160, so you are lying... Now aptitude tests all have their own scales, but those are not IQ tests...

[@Rhondaandjames]

@@chrismcaulay7805 Wow you people are seriously butthurt over this. The High school IQ test in 1984 was in 12th grade for the Department of Commerce. The 1992 IQ Test was administered by the Department of Defense for reasons they did not disclose when I was being reviewed for a security clearance to work at a nuclear facility , i am shocked how pathetically insecure so many of you are.

[@jennismith2]

I have an IQ of at least 130 (tested as gifted as a child, and that was the cutoff). But some of the wisest people I’ve ever met have NOT had particularly high IQs or education. IQ is only one (imperfect) measure of intelligence and ability.

[@Egilhelmson]

IQ is fluid intelligence, where as what those “wisest” people had is quite different. That is why D&D developed with INT and WIS statistics, because the two traits are almost orthogonal.

[@JHAN1212]

I'm around 125-130(depends on the test) and my mind luckily isnt constantly racing with ideas. If I'm interested in a topic and am really honed in on it, I can think about it very logically and abstractly, but my mind tends to move at a normal pace, holding 1 or 2 tracks of thought at once. I can go brain empty and live completely in the moment if I want to. I think its the best of both worlds.

[@l2xsniper1]

That's why they say 125-135 is the bridge between the high genius and average IQ's as far as understanding the thinking of high genius but still being able to relate and communicate with most everyone.

[@Kitkat-986]

Tested at 138, scored the highest possible rating on a spacial awareness test. I have the issue where I'll come up with brilliant ideas at the worst times when I'm trying to do something important. I can plan out complex systems in my head, and I do so almost constantly without conscious effort. It's very easy to be distracted from important tasks by these ideas, and it takes a conscious effort to shut it down and clear my head.

[@claudiusaftoiu5733]

This clip had nothing to do with IQ

[@idkvidz]

i think what was meant to be taken in to perspective is 150 IQ usually comes with a creative personality. They’re critical yet open minded as they web their interests with one another. And their thought process on them are of daily and obsessive habit.

[@MicrocosmicExperience]

Yeah, Peterson was just straight up rambling.

[@qd88]

"My IQ is 69." No, it isn't. Shut up. - me in middle school upon hearing about intelligence quotients

[@joshfriesen1981]

I am a 147 i.q. and i find these chats so fascinating to listen to.

[@Knightfall21]

I'm 148 IQ and I disagree.

[@-108-]

I'm 149, have an extreme talent for reading people, and both of you are FOS.

[@rickspalding3047]

I have a 150 iq and jesus is God

[@marlo-ss4vd]

I have an IQ of about 137, that's it. There can be more that holds this kind of suppression.

[@MrBastman1]

I have an IQ of below 80 and I'm grateful for everything in my life and really enjoying silent hill 2. I hope you find a solution to your self inflicted problems some day and stop the cycle ♥ :11 🧘🤯👁👁☠👻🤩

[@patrykbaszak]

As a member of Mensa, I can tell you that when it comes to solving a problem, and you compare two people who have the same life experience and the problem is equally new to both, the person with the higher IQ will more quickly consider a greater number of possible solutions to the problem, compared to the person with the lower IQ. And what I think is very important: this does not mean that the person with the higher IQ will solve the problem first. Additionally, and importantly, individuals with higher IQs perceive more connections and dependencies in reality, which often leads to very somber conclusions and even depression. Furthermore, people with higher IQs are better equipped to comprehend complex, multi-clause sentences. While an average person may struggle with sentences that have 3 or 4 levels of complexity, a Mensa member might only begin to encounter difficulty at the 6th level or higher.

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

Everything eventually pisses you off.

[@sammencia7945]

The challenge is to develop the patience and wisdom. Work on kindness.

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

@@sammencia7945 that is a practice in mental masturbation. The key is to be around good people in my experience. Then kindness is natural. Also, being pissed off by everything is a lot different than acting on it. It is there, like a splinter you just cannot seem to find with a pin and peroxide. Ty for the input and good attitude regardless!

[@Laireso]

@@MrAbsalomdavid I learnt to expect the worst outcomes prematurely. When they do happen, they don't cause a negative emotional response. Coming to peace with the possibility and likelihood of negative outcome will help you manage your emotions and steer them toward positive things. You can get angrier and angrier that that world doesn't spin the way you want, but since you don't have control over it why would you ruin your mood with it? If that spoke to you on some level think about it. Maybe that's the wisdom you were missing. Don't assume you already know everything regardless of education, IQ, age or experiences. There is always something new to learn, especially in the sphere of psychology when facing unhappiness.

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

@@Laireso I appreciate your advice. Perhaps I should clarify. It was a quip remark simply to point out a reality, using humor. Some call it, “ being facetious.” In no way am I struggling for lack of “knowledge” (although I am very aware that some do, and others, by sharing their personal experiences can find it extremely beneficial). Let me simply assure you that what you may be concerned with, about me… a complete stranger, could best explained by Carl Jung. Looking inward has its benefits, but I am not struggling with anything needing that sort of concern. Th again, and be well!

[@MrAbsalomdavid]

Also… removing expectation can also remove care and feed apathy. It is one of the least beneficial aspects of cluster B personalities.

[@georgewatts6221]

1:14 seconds in and already a F advertisement. Seriously, I hate this place now.

[@superpeaceloveunity]

Pay for the no commercials, it’s worth it, like $8 a month.’

[@ChristianLeFer]

Yeah, premium is a deal for losing that hassle.

[@melw2389]

It is torture.

[@I_Am_A_Ghost_42]

Comedy is the remedy. Also don’t take life seriously

[@MakalaDoulos]

Really helpful. I am a little below 150. Have had 3 careers (Army Contractor, Engineer, Philosophy teacher)... Have published over 1,100 articles, raised 6 kids, speak 4 languages, have lived in 6 countries. Am now the sr. Engineer in my group.... Just had a counselor ask me if maybe I push too hard. I just thought I was doing life. 😂😂😂😂

[@NSResponder]

I was bored out of my mind for most of my schooling. My father argued with me about it and let slip that my IQ was tested when I was very young, and it's quite high. The phenomenon of fluidity that Peterson is describing here is something I have all the time, and it took me a long time to realize that it's not common in other people.

[@dustinbridges6831]

I don’t know what IQ test actually test, or 0:15 if they are accurate. My test said i had a 131 for what thats worth. I feel I have more common sense than most, and find others stupid and lazy. I think that we have an increase in stupid and lazy people and I’m not actually smart. 😂

[@loganblackwood2922]

Are you sure you're not? Intelligence is not particularly one dimensional, two standard deviations is high but without any application or interest, intelligence shows up more generally and is obvious to others but not quite so obvious to you if there's no seeming expertise or affinity towards a specific topic.

[@jacobbutler7942]

That's how I feel too. I know I'm smart, but I'm smart enough to know there's many people much smarter than me. And a lot more stupider. Kind of like a video game rank list, just to say call of duty or something. Most people with the game might be a regular level 50 or something but then there's me like a few prestige maybe level 120 and then there's people with like 10th prestige level 900 ya know.

[@Bogdanini]

I used to have same, when lefe required me to uze all I've got. The older i get, the more i started to notice how stupid most ppl are yes, but even more, including the smart ones, how little self awareness they have. How badly everyone is another brick in the wall. Npc's with basic preprogrammed brains. I know a few ppl who are bery well paid usual and softwares engineers, who make an impression of newest iMac that when needed runs autocad, but buy default, for personality runs robot vacuum cleaner software. Also noticed that stupid not always means lazy, often the opposite, and even more dummer ppl are more decisive. They just do, while smart ones calculate scenarios of failure.

[@Peikoz]

Did you do an official one?

[@Peikoz]

Not the online

[@jimparsons6803]

I think that Mensa starts their definition of "genius" at about 140 or so. Also heard that the this level of capability is only like two maybe three people per 100 human population? Which might suggest (I am not an economist) the quality of a country's economy, given a higher and higher tech environment might be dependent on the quantity and quality of these folks, I wonder if high IQ folks get paid well? I am a fan of history, PBS and so on. There are always documentaries where some past ruler, religion, whatever kills off a bunch of bright folks. Meaning, I guess, that the economy at that then and there goes into the toilet and stays for for some period of time. Recently, there was a PBS show about some of the Islamic folks breaking into a historical museum and the Iraqi City of Mosel to destroy past works of art there. Heard about something like this going on in Afghanistan. Aren't those two countries perpetually short on pocket change?

[@LJSiar]

My Grandpa worked for NASA Via General Dynamics rocket program. He was a giant of a man always lifting weights even to old age. He once told me why. "Lifting will keep your bodies chemistry set in balance." We were a lot a like, Grand theory thinkers. I now believe the body producing Testosterone allows the mind to handle large dangerous thoughts and concepts with out getting anxious. If I get really nervous I can feel my heart pounding and really enjoy it. I am most comfortable in the uncomfortable, it is my home.

[@kaoskronostyche9939]

I sorta agree and disagree with you but not here to quibble. Just want to suggest one edit which would strengthen your argument for me, anyway. "I now believe the body producing Testosterone allows MEN to handle large dangerous thoughts and concepts with out getting anxious." IMHO I guess .... . Cheers!

[@kristasmith7270]

The amount of people claiming to have “high IQ’s” in the comments Me: “Yeah, I fuckin’ doubt it.”

[@ChanceThomas-bl1hc]

I’m not very high in IQ but for some reason I’m good in philosophy. I’m also a dropout and ponder on about why things are as they are and I ponder about existence. I threw myself into philosophy during my drug addiction and throughout that phase I was knee deep in Taoism, Alan Watts, and some Stoicism. I’d like to get Dr. Petersons take on who I am like many others would.

[@solutions553]

So, um, yeeah,.." vanity vanity, all is vanity"..to quote the writer of Ecclesiasties...a really smart person avoids rambling discussions about himself or others...for perspective consider the intellect of the Creator, against your own, then write .." I AM A Fool"....now your gettin an improved IQ...

[@mitchell10394]

So, um, you’re not very bright are you?

[@antipopularity4036]

Trying to understand human behavior is not rambling. We try to better understand one another to quell the overwhelming misunderstanding between us. This is productive and useful in a world of warring knuckledraggers.

[@ZomBearz]

IQ is like height, the taller you are, the easier it is recognize it.

[@lukerocheleau9173]

Especially if you’re a midget

[@methylene5]

Not even close.

[@rubberducky6411]

My older brother was so smart,funny,athletic and very talented in music and art.We were poor,resources were tight but an older high school teacher really tried to find focus for him as he had ability and interest in every subject .He just didnt think school could teach him anything challenging.He ended doing lawn and tree work after graduation.His wealthy customers enjoyed his company as he could hold a conversation on any topic.He was a Renaissance man in workboots.I think it fitted him.He loves his job ,outside,working hard and the respect he gets from it.People that knew him wonder why he chose a labor's job and not higher education.Only he knows.I think high IQ is finding what makes you happy...and thats a whole other type of intelligence.

[@kaitlynnbaker7556]

Ecclesiastes 1 : 18 “For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.”

[@jojostalino1377]

I'm only around 120 and the hard problem for me is that my superiors are dumber than me, but think they are smarter. So i have to execute their dumb orders until i become the superior one day.

[@crcaccounts]

They are smarter than you. Life experiences are more valuable than book study or intellect.

[@jeanb523]

​@@crcaccounts I don't think so... Logic is logic. I have this problem too of being told what to do. If I ask why, I don't receive good answers. And we find out that I was right, again. The phenomenon of being told what to do by people dumber than us who think they are the smarter ones is absolutely real.

[@swordmastery9478]

​@@jeanb523 I think in any IQ setting, getting bad answers for good questions is a clear indication of someone not being smarter, but more passive aggressive. Forget about being smarter, be clever and decide what is the best decision to do. For me it is building my own company, even if it hurts. Better than 4 decades of disablement, perhaps with physical disabilities involved in the process due to corporate ergonomics.

[@Mello775-b9q]

Laggy?

[@wisenber]

The question was what having a 150+ IQ means, not for Jordan to describe his normal day.

[@kamaltalreja8149]

He is too verbose

[@PandaPanda-ud4ne]

Yup. Completely failed to address the issue, and the interviewers did not correct him but went with him on that joyride. I do not believe he even has a 150+ IQ, he is "just" very creative.

[@wisenber]

@PandaPanda-ud4ne Jordan's speed of processing tends to indicate a higher level. A person who is just creative can't generate that creativity that rapidly. Speed of mental processing tends to be the primary expression of a higher IQ.

[@PandaPanda-ud4ne]

@@wisenber Yeah but he doesn´t. He doesn´t have a high procession speed. I mean, if he would, he would be somewhere else in life.

[@wisenber]

@PandaPanda-ud4ne Except he demonstrably does. It's not like there aren't dozens of interviews showing it. And exactly where else in life would you expect a psychologist and best selling author to be in life?

[@crashgsxr750]

As someone who is in the 125-130 But not knowing this till much later in life Normal people irritate me very easily

[@tobiasbki443]

you are normal, worst people are the ones who are a little bit smarter.. as it shows.

[@JohnSmithAaargh]

@@tobiasbki443❌❌

[@JohnSmithAaargh]

What is normal?

[@JohnnyAllan-vj7sj]

​@@JohnSmithAaargh6 inches

[@crashgsxr750]

@@tobiasbki443 average is 100 That would put me in the 92-95th percentile Ie not normal

[@scottyelverton4885]

Mine is 135. Which isn’t ridiculously high. I’ve struggled my whole life. Whenever I don’t do well at something right away I tend to not try. I was this way through school and learned not to put much effort into things. I wasn’t really pushed by my parents. So now at 48 I experience anxiety, depression, and addiction.

[@ZatoichiRCS]

I’m Hispanic and I have an IQ of 165-170. It’s not as great as you may think. Talking to people is hard because they function so low. I’m no better because my ability to relate to others is difficult.

[@Gforce237]

How do know if someone has a 150+ IQ?...... Dont worry, they'll be sure to tell you

[@johntangney3553]

And if they also happen to be vegan…

[@jaassil]

@@johntangney3553I eat meat.

[@johntangney3553]

@@jaassilI was just adverting to the fact that vegans and people with high iqs are both known for being eager to tell you about it as if it were a moral virtue. If someone were both at once they would have double the comic potential.

[@mikemustang5488]

IQ is exactly the kind of terrible, one-dimensional measurement that PHD types come up with. It really doesn't take into account the different areas of mental ability, such as being mechanically inclined, musically gifted, witty in conversation, etc. I'm terrible with people, but pretty good with books. I don't have a lot of common sense either. But yet I have tested very high in IQ tests. Mr. Peterson is interesting to listen to, but he seems to rarely answer the question. 150 IQ - what's it like? Who knows, everyone is different and lots of people have very capable and flexible minds. They are not all bookish.

[@petersinclair3997]

PhD types. A PhD is meant to awarded for “an original and substantial contribution to human knowledge”. An IQ test requests the respondent to give answers against a previously set rubric. An IQ test is much more pedestrian than a PhD thesis. Few would doubt Mozart was a gifted or Shakespeare was gifted or Tesla was gifted.

[@mikemustang5488]

@@petersinclair3997 Was I too dismissive of getting a PHD? Maybe you're right. I highly respect PHDs when the education is used for a productive enterprise such as becoming a medical doctor. School was never difficult for me, so possibly I value workplace productivity too highly in comparison.

[@gzoechi]

That's what people spread who can't stand that some are smarter than others. What you list is not related to intelligence.

[@mikemustang5488]

@@gzoechi It doesn't bother me that some people are smarter than others. I just think IQ is a poor test that only measures some areas of mental functionality. For example, just because I do great in IQ tests doesn't mean I'm going to seem smart in a conversation unless we are in my narrow areas of specialty. A really good IQ test would be more like SAT with math and verbal separated. Plus it should have more aspects of mental functionality incorporated such as athleticism, music, language, the spoken word, etc. A single number is entirely inadequate to characterize mental function.

[@gzoechi]

@@mikemustang5488 This is why IQ tests are great - they measure one well defined aspect very reliably. Whis is very rare in psychology. The problem are the people who claim that this is a bad thing. They throw in a dozen unrelated things just to muddy the water so they can claim IQ tests are bad. Probably because they didn't get the result they wanted.

[@C4ProductionsSD]

I always felt like confidence came from how close we are to our inner ideal.

[@rickshaw8926]

I couldn’t understand why everyone had so little common sense and acted without giving things even the minimal amount of thought. I had trouble with all but a few relationships long term. It seemed as if I was unfortunate enough to always be stuck with the stupid people. Finally, my sister convinced me to take an IQ test. I was astonished that everyone else was not the problem it was me. They were not stupid at all. My IQ is over 150. From that point, my attitude towards everyone changed. It became important to me to be more patient and try not act superior in anyway, and suggest things as an idea and let them buy into it. After 20 years of relationships lasting a few months, I learned to find someone also with a higher IQ. In 2 days we will celebrate our 15th wedding anniversary, and I have been much more successful in professional life after learning this. It also convinced me that “the crazy solutions to problems” were not necessarily crazy. Some have been, but the majority have been successful.

[@francestaylor9156]

I always think about Socrates and how he said that wisdom was about knowing your own limitations. Having the humility that you don’t know everything. It’s kept me humble.

[@gooe9561]

A higher IQ simply allows the individual to feed their emotional addiction in more elaborate ways.

[@PeaceCultureMusic]

Nah

[@HT-Blindleader]

The most intelligent people I know are also the most stoic people I know.

[@iluvyunie]

@@HT-Blindleader it is likely your interpretation that they are intelligent because they are stoic there are usually two types of highly intelligent people those who externalise those who internalise external types are usually driven by attention to some degree and when certain people become aware of the cycle this perpetuates they often fall into destructive behaviors, which would lead one to see them as unintelligent, because they are behaving in a way of poor intelligence- but the contributing factors for a person of high intelligence as opposed to a regular person engaging the same behaviors are purely futile and destructive, whereas a person of normal intelligence might engage in destructive or thrill seeking behaviors simply as a social activity, and not with quite as much vigor. This is my experience with anyway, I grew up "hyper-intelligent" but I'm fairly sure I drank and smoked my "points" away. To agree with you, I think stoicism is an important quality- just not as the nu-age religion it's become and more-so as a set of principles to conduct yourself with in order to stay out of trouble.

[@erickbarbosa5476]

I have an IQ of 50 and I’m super happy my life is pure joy. My star sign is Pisces ♓️ read power quantum power energy

[@thinking_it]

I have an IQ above 150 and I know how that feels.

[@-108-]

People with 150+ IQs don't post comments like yours on youtube.

[@dwightsmith4641]

There are at least 16 different personalities with two of them being associated with psychopath or sociopath tendencies. All 16 personalities have a distribution of high IQ individuals within each group. Whether people with a high IQ post comments is more dependent on their personalities and motives than it is on their IQ. Evil genius people exist and they post all types of comments in order to troll others.

[@giovannamoro8564]

How?

[@mateofonseca7558]

I’m at about 160-170 and I struggle to be successful because I burn out quickly on things that I find tedious and unimportant. Which is most things that make money. Finally decided to speed run a bachelors in the humanities so I can get a job doing something besides a trade or sales which are basically the only things you don’t need a higher education for and that I don’t completely burn out on in about 3 months. Usually I can do sales for a few years, then back to a trade for a a year then back to sales. It’s not working. And no humanities degrees are not useless, they’re useless if you don’t know how to sell the skills they come with and neglect the networking it takes to get a job in your field, Which the universities don’t teach. The problem is the kids that go for these degrees feel entitled to a job simply because they showed up and passed some classes. No organization wants someone like that.

[@FilmPunk]

You know when you see a child about to do something stupid and you feel compelled to stop them and explain what they did wrong? Imagine having that for almost every adult you meet all day. Its draining.

[@specialone6731]

Can you explain some real world examples?

[@Claude_van]

The thing that really creative and intelligent people are least interested in is IQ. I'm just saying.😢

[@prestow]

There's people with culture, others with creativity, others with raw intelligence, but just a few are mature, experienced and wise while intelligent.

[@Csirkefoga]

Anyone stating an exact number as their IQ has no idea whatsoever. 😂

[@chrismcaulay7805]

shhh dont tell them, makes it easier to spot the fakes....