Wassup DEHH family we’re back with another biweekly live. Over this past weekend Lupe shared some thoughts on both Kendrick and Drake. Hear what the fellas had to think about his recent comments tonight @9PM EST
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@massadonkingАй бұрын
FeeFos points about impact are spot on. People simply relate, remember, recite, and imitate more of Kendricks's works than Lupe's.
@superdupeninja8149Ай бұрын
And why do you think that is?
@KaylaMarie_Ай бұрын
@@superdupeninja8149Lupe raps about slave ships and robots lol
@massadonkingАй бұрын
@superdupeninja8149 Simply, Lupe is a very incredible writer and lyricist, he creates deep complex rhymes that you have to peel away layers to get multiple meanings. Kendricks's style is very creative but nowhere as complex as Lupe's. I gravitate toward the high-level lyricism but most people just want to vibe and not think so much. Kendrick is better in that area. Imo
@KaylaMarie_Ай бұрын
@@massadonking Kendrick isnt really for people who dont think too much. I mean maybe at times, but he’s not a good example of vibey music
@MemorycardIIАй бұрын
@@massadonking even people who would like that in theory aren’t trying to hear that shit of it sounds corny. Lupe is kind of corny. Complex and layered and all that yes but ONLY his fanbase and people who really value that are listening for super duper deep rhymes, brah. Generally, people delve into lyrics that have deeper meaning than on the surface yet lupe and other rappers like that do the MOST and at some point it’s trying too hard in my opinion.
@mannmuzo1847Ай бұрын
38:23 - 48:10 Feefo cooked here. He made a SIMPLE point, Lupe hasn't been able to cross over & achive the impact, appeal to the level of Kendrick. And the rest of the panel were arguing with points Feefo didnt say. He didnt disrespect Lupe's skill or quality. Feefo acknowledged & praised it. Lupe wants the recognition Kendrick gets... And like Feefo said, "if he hasn't done it, then why COULD he do it (now)"
@lubtv8792Ай бұрын
Yeah, how are they even arguing that food and liquor is comparable to good kid when it comes to impact and popularity.
@alejandromarmolejo13Ай бұрын
These guys are just old lol Feefo is the youngest one so he gets it. Beezy always trynna be nostalgic and blow shit out of proportion. Food and Liquor is a classic but it never was close to GKMC’s impact mainstream wise or even in the overall landscape of hip hop. A conscious, concept west coast album being one of the highest and longest billbord charting rap albums of all time is just a demonstration of what Kendrick was able to do with Lupe’s conscious style. He ran with that shit
@mannmuzo1847Ай бұрын
@@alejandromarmolejo13 I normally disagree with Feefo. Cause he normally misses the point & blows thongs out of proportion. But he killed that point.
@harrykane471Ай бұрын
Lupe’s issue is he that thinks he is so much smarter than everyone else. But if you keep talking long enough, ppl are going to see your true intentions. Sometimes it’s better to just be quiet.
@roachdoggjr4648Ай бұрын
Meanwhile other Lupe fans tried to convince me that Kendrick is the one who thinks he's smarter than everyone and a pseudo intellectual
@achronos178Ай бұрын
This!!!
@superdupeninja8149Ай бұрын
In his defense he is smarter than other people, (he teaches at MIT). The real issue is like most nerds and gifted students they don’t know how to relate as well to normal people. Kendrick never had that issue. Otherwise, talent wise, they’re not that different
@avashirley2912Ай бұрын
Omg, that’s what I have been thinking. He’s always acting like he’s the smartest kid in the class!
@avashirley2912Ай бұрын
@@superdupeninja8149that’s when we have to also balance that out as common sense. Kendrick is gifted also. He may appear to be a better orator, doesn’t necessarily means that he’s smarter. He’s teaching music. Not building a space ship
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
As a huge Lupe fan, we have to just acknowledge what's plainly in front of us. He's a contrarian and he can't resist going against the grain even if he's wrong. And it's obviously rooted in some form of jealousy because Lupe's career never reached the height it was supposed to because of lasers. Regardless of whose fault it was, the label or his own, at the end of the day he made the album, and that album was not well received for being too poppy. Kendrick is the better overall artist but we should also acknowledge that he had the creative freedom from tde to develop his albums the way he wanted to
@fernandoreyes680Ай бұрын
Agree. Lupe is in my top 5 dead or alive but it's pretty obvious he's a Kendrick hater. In a way, Kendrick became what a lot of people thought Lupe was supposed to be
@goob8945Ай бұрын
Well put
@lizethwalkerАй бұрын
Why does Lupe’s popularity matter if Drakes popularity doesn’t matter? Lol
@thefinessekid9335Ай бұрын
@@lizethwalkerI don't know why you're mentioning Drake but people have been alluding to Lupe being jealous of Kendrick because they both make the same type of music but only 1 got popular because of it. Drake's fame has never been the reason people disliked him
@robclassified2280Ай бұрын
This isn’t confusing at all. Lupe is simply jealous of him. Logic isn’t in the same stratosphere & drake don’t write his own stuff. It’s clear people
@malachickisawesomeАй бұрын
Feefo was cookin in this one
@CHUCKSANDPOLOSАй бұрын
He was right the entire time and the other two were fanboying. No politics no bs huh
@Jimmyjones151Ай бұрын
Beezy was corny. If Myke was saying Kendrick was better he’d be agreeing. He never goes against his daddy
@alang4190Ай бұрын
someone said he looks like a chunky lupe here and it killed me
@methrecovery6922Ай бұрын
Yeah he diffinately eating....
@AST-eriskedАй бұрын
When Lupe raps Im more than impressed, hes just elite between elite. Really smart. Then he talks like an immature kid that wants attention, I dont understand.
@rawviewsphotography2499Ай бұрын
Nope he thinks he's smart
@HumbleasamumbleАй бұрын
Being smart in one way, doesn’t mean you’re smart in other ways.
@hectorlagos8937Ай бұрын
is a very common thing 😂 most philosophers write about how man can be better while being huge assholes themselves
@kashstoryАй бұрын
Immature how?
@tydamon7316Ай бұрын
I understand. Lupe is good. Kendrick is great. And Lupe hates it. Yet he thinks/hopes we can't see it.
@alexsosick863Ай бұрын
Beezy, Rod and Ken was tap dancing like a MF. Thank you Feefo for keeping it 100!!
@cmccaig247Ай бұрын
Didn’t think it’d ever get to this, but Feefo really cooked this one
@eddyspreciouslittlelifeАй бұрын
not going to lie yall crazy, Feefo cooking 3-course meal
@IamFirtyDuckerАй бұрын
Shout out to Feefo for keeping it real. Ever since Lupe called you guys out years ago some of you are afraid to be fully transparent about him.
@EZ95Ай бұрын
ROD SCARED
@lizomkhizeАй бұрын
For such a gifted lyricist, Lupe sure does say some stupid sh*t.
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
Please say it louder for the people in the back! Just cuz you a ‘conscious rapper’ don’t mean you too can’t be compromised. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
@@jorgeskuf ‘when the money get low, the hungryness gon show.’ 🤔🤦🏾♂️
@ClydeCyrusАй бұрын
I'm a gifted lyricist, and I too think Drake is a better rapper than Kendrick. I do prefer Kendrick's music, though.
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
@@ClydeCyrus and you lying, bitter ans hating just like Lupe. Lupe is working with Drake. Its obvious. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@mowainwright73Ай бұрын
@@ClydeCyrus what's the criteria for your ranking Drake as a better rapper?
@kilobeatsog8274Ай бұрын
Feefo was spittin and wasnt saying anything crazy and was still giving Lupe his flowers. They were tryna make it seem like he was making crazy claims lmao. Nothing Lupe has done has reached the levels that GKMC did and that's ok. Both still great generational artists.
@alang4190Ай бұрын
we need myke or someone younger for situations like this lmao
@youngm.a.r.s261418 күн бұрын
I feel like The Cool is up there with GKMC.
@QuandaleDingleBarnacleJonesIIIАй бұрын
Feefo so funny when he get passionate 😂😂
@Jimmyjones151Ай бұрын
He’s right tho. Needs to talk with his chest like this more often
@quintinjohnson6760Ай бұрын
Still can’t believe Lupe said Logic was better a few years back.,
@AllinonetryАй бұрын
Feefo with a triple double..😂😊
@isaiahcane4999Ай бұрын
Food and liquor is dope af but I think Good Kid being billboards longest charting rap studio album alone puts it in a different category
@shettywapАй бұрын
Feefo had them dudes scrambling to say anything. 😆 🤣 😂
@geraldsplaylistАй бұрын
Lupe is hating, straight up. Kendrick took backpack rap further and Lupe probably feels like the student has passed the master.🤷🏾♂️💯
@megamixaАй бұрын
Why are you guessing? Lupe explained it multiple times. So either you believe him, or you think he's a liar. If you think he's a liar, I don't know why you would listen to him. If you think he's being honest, why call him a hater?
@geraldsplaylistАй бұрын
@@megamixa he said logic was better than Kendrick 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂 he's a hater 🤷🏾♂️
@GotexanzАй бұрын
@@megamixaI can appreciate Lupe music and skill, while still 100% believing he is hating because he is
@methrecovery6922Ай бұрын
@@megamixayou don't have to want to be with friends with the artist you listen to. I would never hang out with any of these rappers but I enjoy their music.
@laynesmith9250Ай бұрын
Thank god Feefo was there. Good shit bruh
@CHarr1991Ай бұрын
Great convo. Feefo was cooking during the analogy section. There’s so much to breakdown as a lifelong Lupe fan and someone who believes Kendrick is the best ever , bar none.
@dejuanthomas4953Ай бұрын
Man, Feefo absolutely crushed this argument 👍🏽🔥🔥
@jasun_05Ай бұрын
Lupe is a GOAT for sure, but to the point of Feefo, he doesn't and likely never will have the impact that a Kendrick has had up to this point. Not that numbers and accolades are everything, but looking at the awards (Grammys, etc.), numbers, and cross cultural acknowledgements (Pulitzer Prize, quoted, and featured by some of the biggest figures in the world, such as presidents, the biggest pop stars, international sports figures) Kendrick has received, it's just not comparable. Now that doesn't speak to one-to-one rap ability, but there is a conversation to be had in that Lupe does seem to have wanted to some of what Kendrick has. We can't ignore that Lupe has made full albums (Drogas Light, LASERS) dedicated to trying to make purposefully mainstream sounding songs with messages, and it would just be a lie at this point to say that he has shown the ability to do so at the pop appeal level that Kendrick is able to do it at. Like, making the argument that he "could", just because on paper he seems like he would be able to do something comparable is just an argument not rooted in evidence. A lot of people "could" do things on paper, but given Lupe's discography and age, I think it's safe to say by now that he actually probably can't. And that, it seems like, is the thorn in Lupe's side when it comes to Kendrick because when it comes to the meeting of the worlds of pop appeal and consciousness in hip hop, Lupe never got to be the guy in the same way that Kendrick is cemented, even though to Rod's point, people like him opened the path for people like Kendrick.
@yokaigypsyАй бұрын
Well, by your own metrics Drake is the face of Hip Hop.
@lizomkhizeАй бұрын
You summed it up perfectly. Lupe MIGHT be the better lyricist, but Kendrick is DEFINITELY a better artist.
@deionroulhac3245Ай бұрын
Well said
@SuperSavageSpiritАй бұрын
anything dr wants to push and is on aftermath goes to number 1. not fair to compare
@TakverReturnsАй бұрын
@lizomkhize Yes, agreed...but what I find puzzling is that Lupe himself has openly admitted in the past that he thinks that he is the better lyricist but that Kendrick is the better artist.
@LFLDaVinciАй бұрын
Let’s stop being politically correct. Lupe sounded like he was hating.
@tydamon7316Ай бұрын
He was hating and continues to hate
@obakengsteward6973Ай бұрын
Lupe is obsessed with Kendrick Lamar 😂 He quotes his verse in his lectures at MIT. Y'all are beating around the bush, Lupe is jealous and hating on Kendrick Lamar.
@blvckreaper462Ай бұрын
Hell yeah. He wants his albums to be the topic of reform. But that goddamn Kendrick has generational classics that speak to the soul of hip hop.
@user-un3co5dt4xАй бұрын
Lupe has one sided beef with him I don’t even think Kendrick even acknowledged his petty ways throughout the years
@superdupeninja8149Ай бұрын
He’s keeps it up, he will one day
@BerniceHaydenАй бұрын
That's why he's mad.
@mukamiwamboraofficialАй бұрын
It's eating him up inside. Hope he never does.
@tinysaurussАй бұрын
I’m so glad everyone here is giving Feefo his flowers and calling out the bs from the other 3. Lupe couldn’t carry a plastic bag full of air without complaining about something, let alone carry the spot Kendrick has. I’m not even the biggest K Dot fan it’s just facts. Feefo with the big W ❤️
@BlackLight_VAАй бұрын
Rod start tap dancing like Savion when Feefo compared Good Kid Maad City to Food & Liquor and The Cool...😆
@alejandromarmolejo13Ай бұрын
beezy too
@lizomkhizeАй бұрын
I don't think people realise just how special an artist Kendrick is. We KNOW Kendrick can do what Drake does, it terms of creating hits (Alright, King Kunta, Money Trees, HUMBLE, Swimming Pools, etc.). He CHOOSES to be more conceptual in his work. We KNOW Kendrick can be elite lyrically (Rigamortus, The Heart Pt. 2, Mortal Man, FEEL., etc.). Kendrick can do what both Lupe and Drake can do - he has proven it multiple times. I don't think the other two artist mentioned here have proven that they can do what Kendrick does artistically. That's the difference.
I wouldn't say Kendrick can do what Lupe does lyrically, but I see where you're coming from
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
@@fernandoreyes680 so can Lupe do what Kendrick does album production wise. Can Lupe captivate the masses on the level Kendrick does? Is being a more complicated lyricist automatically mean that you’re a better MC? 🤔🤔🤔
@goob8945Ай бұрын
Yes I find it very special that the most popular rap artist is not scared to break the mold and create new concepts. Rap is lucky to have him
@DjDjk-qu9yuАй бұрын
I agree and I will take is a step further. Kendrick to me artistically is on a different stratosphere than those two .. he’s a true artist and his only concern is to make music that’s everlasting and has an impact on the culture
@marmiteghostАй бұрын
we keep wanting to give lupe the benefit of the doubt cos he's one of the best artists in the game, but the plain & glaring fact is lupe's lowkey a kendrick hater. if lupe wasn't still putting out amazing work, we'd be calling it out way more harshly. from all his wishywashy arguments and inconsistent rationale regarding kendrick, it's so clear dude has some sort of personal gripe with him
@superdupeninja8149Ай бұрын
We know why he does, just like Kendrick he’s the biggest hater
@marcalma11Ай бұрын
Almost feels like Rod was being deliberately contrarian on the point Feefo was making. As great as Food and Liquor is and as much impact as it had, it never reached the heights of GKMC. Every conversation I've heard with these recent lists, including DEHH, mentioned that GKMC should be in the conversation for the top 5. You all even went through and tried to think of other more recent albums that could be in that conversation. None of you mentioned F&L. I get you might have suggested it if it occured to you but the fact that it didn't pop in your head says something as well.
@Jimmyjones151Ай бұрын
He’s always doing that. Sounds so goofy. Fell off massively from having Myke
@AST-eriskedАй бұрын
Great point about the top 5 convo.
@robclassified2280Ай бұрын
He’s right. If Lupe had the ability to impact the culture the same he would’ve done it. Lupe had a chance to impact the culture when he had a performance at the bet awards with words I never said. I got my homie to sit and listen I was hype. Lupe went out there and performed it on a rock and roll beat screaming and crap. My man looked at me and was like get him the f outta here!!! He missed the mark it was tons of people watching to see what was gonna happen. Lupe hasn’t done it because he can’t do it
@vagabondatlas6887Ай бұрын
Lupe: I teach Hip hop at MIT, not a community college Also Lupe: Why do you care about my opinion?
@WillieEarlSonАй бұрын
Feefo ain’t told no lies
@HeisenblerdАй бұрын
"Who wanna look like Lupe?"😅😅😅 this had me dying all day
@kelvinsekwati4016Ай бұрын
Feefo is cooking with the TRUTH!!!
@RoddyRodbbАй бұрын
Honestly Lupe is more lyrically comparable to Ab-soul than Kendrick
@chief-long-johnАй бұрын
Stylistically or skill? Because honestly I agree with both
@EternalpharoahАй бұрын
I’d take Soulo over Lupe
@RoddyRodbbАй бұрын
@@chief-long-john well yea both, that's why I'm still disappointed that they never did the album together
@chief-long-johnАй бұрын
@@RoddyRodbb word I feel you. I consider Lupe to be a half-tier above Kendrick as a lyricist, but I consider Kendrick to be a better overall rapper (considering flows, delivery, dynamics, etc). What are your thoughts on this?
@RoddyRodbbАй бұрын
@chief-long-john 100 percent, that's what I feel like makes Kendrick the more "entertaining" artist. But it's funny, if you go back to earlier Kendrick he was focusing on double entendres more and revenge of the nerd Lupe would be on his double time flow sometimes but I guess they both kinda stepped away from what they were doing earlier on
@goob8945Ай бұрын
Feefo stepped up
@RomeDCarloАй бұрын
Lupe’s concepts have never been as fully fleshed out as Kendrick’s tbh, even the fact that Samurai is supposed to be about “Amy Winehouse as a battle rapper” doesn’t really impact or improve my listening experience
@shettywapАй бұрын
Precisely. There's not much that improves the listening experience knowing that information whatsoever. That concept also doesn't really translate well to what he's trying to do.
@MemorycardIIАй бұрын
Not trying to be funny or anything. What the hell? Samurai, his album, is a concept album, where he raps from the perspective of amy wineglass as a battle rapper? What?
@yeahr1ghtyАй бұрын
Why you listening to Lupe if you don't care about lyrics? The lead single "Samurai" makes no sense and the hook is random without context, but with the concept, its AMAZING! A lot of y'all are no better than Lu, get your feelings hurt and start hating on some nonsense. I don't fw his hating on Kendrick but ironically a lot of y'all doing the same shit back.
@Magic7ballАй бұрын
@@MemorycardII Lupe claimed that but if you listen to the album most people wouldnt pick up on that
@dexenationgracey1979Ай бұрын
Maybe I just don't know enough about Amy Winehouse (which I admittedly only know Rehab) but I'm not even sure how Samurai even references her. If you didn't have to look it up would you even know that Samurai is meant to be an Amy Winehouse tribute?
@Down2MarzАй бұрын
Shout out Feefo for keeping it real. We all love Lu as Hip Hop Heads but stop the d-riding fam. The other fellas on the panel had no good arguments against Feefo's points.
@GoB1996Ай бұрын
The perfect example of impact was the year 2015. Lupe dropped Tetsuo & Youth while Kendrick dropped To Pimp a Butterfly. THAT is an argument that I still have even with myself between which one is better. But people were chanting Alright in every protest for that entire year, nobody started trying to goat tetsuo until some time later. Kendrick definitely has more impact in modern times, Lupe already had what Kendrick has now. He don’t need Grammys or a Pulitzer when he’s a rap professor at MIT😂
@MemorycardIIАй бұрын
Professor at MIT is not on par with winning the Pulitzer Prize. Lupe has not attained the same impact and been cultural watershed as Kendrick has. He probably should’ve been but Lupe’s music is not as good. His creativity overall is not as good. Lupe is a great writer and lyricist. That’s it.
@GoB1996Ай бұрын
@@MemorycardII I think after hearing something like Tetsuo & Youth and especially Drogas Wave that it’s crazy to say he isn’t as creative as Kendrick. Even with Samurai, idk I think it’s a debate to be had
@Jon155mtАй бұрын
Long story short, Lupe is just a Kendrick hater. And that’s fine if he actually stood on that but the problem comes in when he refuses to just admit it and wants to pretend that the fans are just making stuff up. 🤦🏾 He’s CONSISTENTLY downplayed Kendrick as a rapper. Dude even called LOGIC a better rapper than Kendrick lmao. Let’s be serious. And why give an opinion on who is better if you’re refusing to even listen to any of their new songs?? Lmao it just comes across like a lie. Lupe knows for a fact that if he admits that he actually listened to the disses then he’d have to actually explain how Drake out raps Kendrick, which he knows wouldn’t have been possible. Lupe just comes across as extremely bitter when it comes to Kendrick and it’s sad to see as someone who loves Lupe’s albums.
@TripleSeven777LifeАй бұрын
Lupe is cool with both K. Dot and Drake. Lupe had both of them open shows for him back in the day. He's been on Ab-Soul's album and Ab-Soul has been on Lupe's album. ScHoolboy Q just praised Lupe's album Samurai. Lupe genuinely is just cool with both Dot & Drake. That sounds weird with their beef where everyone wants to pick a side. It was the same for me with Nas & Jay-Z. I refused to take a side. I like both of them and that's what Lupe is saying I'm cool with both of these dudes but people want to insinuate that he hates Dot.
@lydiaapolot5460Ай бұрын
The gaslighting, not allowing anyone to speak the condescending attitude toward general public that's what is off putting,he actually said in one of those spaces chats,that the general public do not have the qualifications or understanding to correctly say who belongs in the culture.
@Jon155mtАй бұрын
@@TripleSeven777Life If he was “cool” with both of them then why when he was asked who’s better a few months ago between Drake and Kendrick he didn’t even let the dude finish his question before saying Drake is a better rapper? He could’ve easily said “I’m not gonna pick a side cause I’m cool with both of them”, but instead he immediately picked Drake. Lol, which AGAIN it’s fine if he likes Drake more but at least STAND ON what you’re saying and stop the cap. Lupe is doing the same nonsense that Big Sean does when it comes to Kendrick. Sneak dissing and then when someone asks him about it he claims he “doesn’t have any issues with Kendrick and people are just making stuff up”. All that throwing rocks and hiding your hands bs needs to stop. That’s why I respect Drake more after the beef because even tho he lost, at least he had the 🥜 to actually stand on what he said. What Lupe is doing is even worse than Cole’s apology too cause at least Cole still acknowledges that he did diss him. Lupe, just like Big Sean, just wants to act like ppl are slow and can’t put 2 and 2 together 🤦🏾
@yokaigypsyАй бұрын
@@Jon155mtYou stans are slow.
@Jon155mtАй бұрын
@@yokaigypsy You must’ve typed that while looking in the mirror.
@nigel813Ай бұрын
This was an embarrassing showing from everyone not named Feefo... He stated several times that he doesn't feel a Lupe album has had an equal or greater cultural impact as Good Kid Maad City & them trying to change what he was saying into quality of work argument or bring up who came first was nasty work.
@DoriiaanАй бұрын
Feefo & the comments are right. Lupe’s hating and saying a whole bunch of nothing to justify it. It’s clear as day in the CurtissKing interview. And Lupe is 2 decades deep in the game at this point. If he had a project like GKMC or TPAB or even Damn in him, he would’ve done it already.
@howdydutt1eАй бұрын
How is Lupe a so called professor of rap but doesn’t keep up on current trends events. Could you imagine an engineering professor not keeping up on code or a law professor not keeping up on laws?Stop Lupe, you hating and need to drop the diss already!
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
Because he doesn’t wanna be held accountable or brought on a real debate if he claims he never heard it.
@l...m9415Ай бұрын
From what I've seen he lectures more about lyricism than culture/ history. I'm not surprised he isn't interested in the diss tracks as the content turned into accusations of awful things. Lupe doesn't like that sort of content.
@TheandY408Ай бұрын
This ain't it. And you know damn well it's not a strong point
@mowainwright73Ай бұрын
@@l...m9415How? Lupe's engaged in diss tracks himself. Furthermore, if you're teaching a hip-hop class on lyricism/culture/history, how can you remove the nature of rap beef/battles/disses? I'm calling cap or he's teaching an incomplete class.
@sportcenterTubeАй бұрын
Im not even a Kendrick fan and Good kid is no question more impactful than any lupe album
@MrSfisher964Ай бұрын
Lupe getting so much backlash because him and Kendrick has almost the same fans. He not going to be able to bait Kendrick he going to have to address it on wax Kendrick is not going to have a internet pissing contest.
@WillieEarlSonАй бұрын
I think Kendrick leans into more of his artistry and Lupe doesn’t do that. Like Kendrick music touches my soul, makes me think. Lupe says stuff you have to decode and go wow but it doesn’t stick with me after a few weeks
@andrei11drАй бұрын
I love Lupe, but I can't ignore the obvious jelosy, Kendrick had all the same skills and ambitious as Lupe, yet Kendrick rose to the top and remained there, meanwhile Lupe had success for a short period and then fell off, and that clearly bothers him
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
We all know that Lupe was an inspiration to Kendrick. He raps on Lupe's "dumb it down" beat in one of the early mixtapes. The mature thing for lupe to do would have been to support kdot's success and compete with him if he wanted to musically. The way Lupe's been trying to downplay his skill and talent for years comes off as out of touch and bitter. I guess sometimes it's hard to appreciate your peers until you take a step back and let go of the resentment.
@godspeed9216Ай бұрын
And he denies any type of speculation we make but is never willing to acknowledge his flawed thinking. We’d all love a battle between them but I doubt it happens now. If anything kendrick feels bad for lupe lol he just seems so bitter, even if he’s really not. Something going on in his heart, only he and god know
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
I feel like Kendrick really doesn't want to respond to Lupe because he grew up loving Lupe and he'd rather just leave it alone. That's just my speculation
@AngeBiampandouАй бұрын
@@IWAC2013It's the classic old tale of when your idol becomes your rival
@directedbysunnyАй бұрын
I don’t think Kendrick makes How Much A Dollar Cost without Put You On Game imo
@godspeed9216Ай бұрын
@@directedbysunny Kendrick was obviously inspired by lupe, when I hear kieshas song or ronald reagan era I think of superstars or fighters from the cool. People could downplay lu all they want but his impact in undeniable
@allforthenukieАй бұрын
Lupe is far too talented to be so dismissive
@XLgameBROАй бұрын
Lupe is terrible at using the internet. His obvious shade when it come to kendrick is ridiculous. I don't think it's personal. But he does harbor professional jealousy. His clarifications make things worse because it's dripping with insincerity.
@MemorycardIIАй бұрын
Bingo. Then he denies it. Thinks people are stupid or he’s just trolling. Likely both.
@synceredagenius6084Ай бұрын
Feefo cooked and yall know it
@benj97sАй бұрын
Lupe hasn't got anything as globally impactful and recognisable as GKMC. Not even close. Feefo is correct. No one cares or knows Lupe outside hardcore hip hop fans
@mariahsel6248Ай бұрын
Literally 😂
@simthembilefeti5440Ай бұрын
Talk your shit Feefo, Lupe is great but right now his becoming Goofy.
@the_last_GamebenderАй бұрын
Feefo really cooked Lupe here💀 his point can not be defeated
@jayrezzonico2955Ай бұрын
I totally get all the criticisms of Lupe but the idea that Kendrick fans don't know Lupe and wouldn't want to listen to Samurai is crazy to me. Despite his flaws, Lupe is still one of the best rappers of the 2000s and Kendrick fans especially should admire his lyricism regardless of the jealousy it seems Lupe may feel toward Kendrick
@mohamedfahad2364Ай бұрын
Who wanna listen to conceptual album around a racist dead drugged out white british singing woman turned battle rapper? Be for effin real.
@AST-eriskedАй бұрын
Im sure the core Kendrick fans also crossover with Lupe, thats probably why people are more dissapointed about lupe's comments. They respect his opinions on rap, even hot takes like this one.
@dexenationgracey1979Ай бұрын
@@AST-eriskedI know on the Kendrick subreddit Lupe is highly respected as a lyricist and a lot of people acknowledge that he's the original Kendrick.
@ZachWhoIsTallАй бұрын
Lupe lost me when I went to see him perform The Cool. In San Francisco of all places he thought it was a good idea to spend time complaining about weed and singling out an audience member to say “you need to smoke better weed if you come to see me perform”. I made sure to pull my blunts extra hard after those comments.
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
Lupe and the Game are more similar than we realize lol. Both are amazing artists that get in their own way. And they both purposely say wild things to get a reaction and double down when people get annoyed lol
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
@@IWAC2013no they are not. Lupe sounds slow. The Game does ish for Rap competition. The Game ain’t pusy like Lupe. If The Game talk crazy best believe he’ll actually DROP THE DISS TRACKS! Lupe needa shut up or drop the diss against Kendrick. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
Game been acting really reckless tho, I feel like for him it's past competition, he just wants to create a spectacle. I love Game as an artist but he's constantly shooting himself in the foot
@HumbleasamumbleАй бұрын
@@Artislife1992the game is a fucking loser
@aatiti2011Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@___cvrlo9947Ай бұрын
I’m On The Hill W/ Feefo. Lupe Absolutely Did NOT Have The Same Impact As Kendrick At Any Point. & That’s Not A Diss To Lupe Because NOBODY Has Had The Same Impact As Kendrick
@methrecovery6922Ай бұрын
Tupac has had a bigger impact than Kendrick and wasn't afraid to drop projects
@Wayne_C_Kelly_IIАй бұрын
Pharrell Williams = “You ain’t ‘Skateboard P.’ I am real with this.” Childish Gambino = He was quoted on air on how Lupe had problems with him, being the nerd rapper, when he done it first. Kendrick Lamar = Slights upon sneak diss. These younger generations took the opportunity, which was given to them, and ran with it; succeeding their endless goals. They achieved success and worldly recognition, where Lupe should have been. This, I perceive, eats him. So Talented and Brilliant, and yet…
@BeyondBeatsandCultureАй бұрын
1:26:18 Hey Rod and DEHH Family, you’re talking about us in this timestamp. As always, we are so grateful to see you guys shouting us out, showing love and still inspiring us to this day! Great livestream as usual and Feefo was going IN earlier 😂😂😂 - Chase
@JulianWyllieАй бұрын
They were really tryna make Feefo feel like he's crazy lmao.
@Alexoleh6613Ай бұрын
“We’re transitioning to bigger and better things” DEHH After Dark finally happening when the new studio opens👀👀👀😩😩😩🍆🍑🔞
@ElijahMCMalikАй бұрын
😂
@Jon155mtАй бұрын
He a FAN he a FAN he a FAN
@RDrulez100Ай бұрын
MM MMMM
@1203DayDreamerАй бұрын
About time Sophie comes back
@seanthadon2321Ай бұрын
@@1203DayDreamerbro???
@artheals8869Ай бұрын
Less say Drake writes all his raps for the sake of argument. With that in mind, still, the only thing Drake does better is make hits and quotables. He doesn’t do metaphor better he DAMN (no pun intended) well doesn’t do storytelling better, he doesn’t make better albums, he doesn’t have better or more unique flows, he doesn’t fuck with Kendrick technically in terms of rhyme schemes. Lupe is full of shit, and I love Lupe, but he is absolutely full of shit 😂
@obakengsteward6973Ай бұрын
Feefo was cooking and that's very rare. Ken, Rod and Beezy are compromised 😂 Lupe is just bitter.
@godspeed9216Ай бұрын
I can’t be the only die hard Kdot and Lupe fan that is surprised and frustrated by his comments over the years
@mowainwright73Ай бұрын
I feel you bro. Love em both...got em in my top 5 actually ( dot 2, Lupe 4). At this point though, I'm just frustrated and disheartened. Can't say I'm surprised anymore... Lupe been subtly hating since GKMC days.
@dexenationgracey1979Ай бұрын
@@mowainwright73He probably won't admit it but I think Lupe is jealous that his career didn't turn out the way he hoped because damn near everyone calls him the original Kendrick.
@kelvinsekwati4016Ай бұрын
That was some hater energy out of lupe
@IamFirtyDuckerАй бұрын
Lupe is bitter and hides behind the occasional compliment. He absolutely hates and envy’s Kendrick because he feels that should’ve been him. Lupe is a phenomenal lyricist but he treats it like Maths, as opposed to art. His music lacks the heart and soul to really connect to people in the way Kendrick does. And in terms of writing songs, Kendrick is miles better. Kendrick makes better albums and he’s a better performer. Lupe piped up when Drake was on top jn the beef but post euphoria was conveniently quiet, and then says he hasn’t heard the newer songs of the beef. He’s a jealous hater let’s keep it real. Still a great artist but a bitter man
@SP2CrazyАй бұрын
Lupe is just jealous of Kendrick, it’s been clear for years😂
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
Yeah dude, I've been a Lupe fan way before I knew who Kendrick was, but when he made those nut hugger comments I was so let down. Kendrick is easily miles above anyone in his generation. To see Lupe downplay him like that hurt, as a fan of both.
@Artislife1992Ай бұрын
💯💯💯
@lizethwalkerАй бұрын
What did he say that made you think dude was jealous He literally said Kendrick nice
@BeerChuggerАй бұрын
He said Logic is better than Dot. That is pure jealousy @@lizethwalker
@lizethwalkerАй бұрын
@@BeerChugger I guess if it’s that serious lol I thought he just said logics pen was better but that Kendrick made better music Idk logics catalog but Lupe’s point I only hear with Kendrick is that he doesn’t respect his pen as a top tier pen, like top pen meaning literally best ever at lyricism Lyricism is a huge part of rap but that’s not the only part, concepts, delivery etc are very important as well Lupe looks at himself and niggas like King Los Loaded Lux Daylight as top pens, these are pens where you have to decode their shit to even understand them It’s like in hoop some people think Lebron is more athleticism than skilled bc his footwork and shooting and scoring moves aren’t as flawless as MJ and Kobe or KD Others says Bron is skilled bc rebound passing even athleticism are skilled The people who have the Lebron is more like Giannis than skilled point of view would say KD is more skilled BUT would still say Lebron is better Like he sayin Kdot is nice but not his top pens The only hate comment I seen from Lu is him saying Drake is better than Kendrick bc I don’t get if he’s saying Drakes pen is better or if he’s sayin Drake is better than Kendrick the same way Kendrick is better than King Los
@marcalma11Ай бұрын
Is Ken talking about Dot fans that are new Dot fans because of the beef or people who have been Dot fans since day 1? I can see his point if its the former but it's hard for me to believe that a lot of old Dot fans are not also fans of Lupe.
@Flash_1689Ай бұрын
Some ppl think lupe wants to battle kendrick and thats why he is acting like he is. To me is feels like full fledge JEALOUSY. If it was about challenging Dot. Lupe wouldnt have responded to the control verse the way he did. He responded to that verse just like drake did. and Lupe definitely acts like he is bigger than hip hop....to brag about teaching at MIT, only to try and clown Kendrick for showing up to a community college which kendrick did to encourage and uplift is extreme nasty work. Smh
@thatoneguywhorapsАй бұрын
Feefo is being the Myke of this conversation
@darrellwilliams9168Ай бұрын
Food and Liquor would not have the same impact as GKMC if they came out the same year what are yall talking about
@TheFerarrispeedАй бұрын
I ageee with Feefo. GKMC’s impact crossed the casual listener. My buddy and I were the only ones bumping food in liquor back when it can out. It didn’t cross over to the normies.
@scarecrowzwАй бұрын
Lupe spoke sales? Oh no... Then, condescends toward community college? Does he know anything about the elitist context of prestigious school? Fan of Lupe's art but that's just disappointing 🤦🏿♂️
@SMCandLSАй бұрын
Feefo was right about Lupe. As amazing as an MC Lupe is he has no where near the cultural impact of Kendrick. I think some of Lupe’s comments over the years about Kendrick has to do with the fact that he thought his career was going to be like how Kendrick is now.
@lovelaj0149Ай бұрын
I think Lupe is bitter. I don't think he knows he's bitter, but I think he is. Kendrick and him have been compared a lot; they are cut from the same cloth and the conversation has noticed that. Kendrick blew up with GKMC, an albim with complete artistic integrity. Lupe got there earlier and was forced to make Lasers. It was short term success that eventually backfired on him when his fans stopped caring and the the lime light faded. Lupe knows how talented he is and it's causing cognitive dissonance for him that he's this talented, but Drake and Kendrick have had so much more success than him. He thinks he should sell like Drake, and that's why he keeps saying Drake is better than him, because Drake accomplished something Lupe couldn't (even with his greatness). Now that Kendrick is on top, the bitterness is boiling over.
@bzetu101Ай бұрын
Lupe is very conceited🙄. He displays some of that Kanye Syndrome; he likes hearing himself talk & thinks he is always the smartest person in the room. That PHD 🎓 really got into his head.😅 Kendrick is as intelligent, creative & intuitive but more humble and was willing to be mentored. Kendrick's Pulitzer Prize and The Damn album immortalized in Havard must really irk Lupe😅. When Lupe was signing to corporations ( the Machine is rigid), Kendrick was locked in with TDE (Top allowed his artist creative freedom). How is he a Hiphop Professor yet he claims to have ignored the best rap battle of our generation? ( he's lying😅 btw). Maybe Kendrick should be teaching that class instead 🤔
@KnightOwel7Ай бұрын
I mean you also have to take promotion into account. Like Kendrick has been an industry darling from day one, and that never went away. Lupe started like that, but fell out with Atlantic, and has been totally blacklisted. That does have an impact on an artist reaching the masses
@Braanndon00Ай бұрын
FACTS
@IamFirtyDuckerАй бұрын
Lupe is a bitter weirdo who burns bridges, he’s like The Game. He constantly shit talks unprovoked about people, so what do you expect. He brought it on himself
@thefinessekid9335Ай бұрын
@@KnightOwel7 Kendrick didn't become a media darling until 2012 with GKMC and that's cause that album was good enough for people still to this day to say it was the best or one of the best of that decade.
@KnightOwel7Ай бұрын
@thefinessekid9335 You talk like GKMC was an indie album that blew up purely organically with no industry help. They literally put Drake on the album as a feature to help promo and sell it. Not saying the same didn't happen with Lupe, he had the JayZ cosign and help, I'm just saying Kendrick never lost the industry help, and Lupe did. While he still had it he put out two universally recognized classics in his first two albums, same as Kendrick, and was nominated for and awarded grammy's for them. Then his relationship got so bad with the industry, his label had to be hacked and threatened by Anonymous in order for them to even release his last album under them, which I would argue was another classic
@IamFirtyDuckerАй бұрын
@@KnightOwel7 Kendrick and Drake already had a relationship before, so Drake’s feature isn’t solely down to the label.
@dfrnt_huesАй бұрын
46:00 Feefo is right! Skill/Talent doesn’t matter if you never put it together. Lupe could probably make a 12 song album no skips, with 5 amazing lyrical miracle deepcuts, 2 song that get 4 Grammy noms combined, he could make 3 radio/playlist hits so that he’s owns Summer, Fall, and Winter. But he’s never done it and Kendrick has.
@vibezworldwideАй бұрын
Late to the live but Feefo was cooking and Ima big Lupe fan
@professionallyamateur5991Ай бұрын
Ken is out-of-pocket saying Kendrick fans won't like Samurai. That album hits for a lot of the same reasons DAMN did, and I don't think I've got some special insight on that point haha
@KWILKSPАй бұрын
Yall trippin on the food and liquor vs gkmc portion of the debate. Little kids still listen to 12 year old gkmc. Nobody under about 25 (being generous) talks about F&L anymore. 2 great albums. But come on yall being obtuse
@ClayakaАй бұрын
Feefo really came with it.
@iDewThis4YuАй бұрын
Everybody in the world knows about good kids madd city…it is still charting.. Feefo was right. Food and liquor is nowhere near as big as that album. Knock it off
@AngeBiampandouАй бұрын
It's actually the longest charting hip hop album of all time with 600+ consecutive weeks (almost 12 years) without leaving the charts. There's def levels to it
@djxycloneofficial899Ай бұрын
Feefo out here whuppin feet 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂
@luchables-wd9fi8hf4rАй бұрын
Lupe just mad about k dot winning a Pulitzer prize 💀
@ThatLee4Ай бұрын
Lupe's beef with Kendrick has nothing to do with Kendrick. It has to do with Lupe's career getting sabotaged in his Lasers era. If Lasers came out how Lupe wanted. This whole world would had been a different places. I wish Lupe could be happy for Kendrick. Him getting the creative freedoms hevwish he had and the impact and acclaim that Lupe kinda paved a way for. Make Kendrick even better. Jump on tracks with him. Dont hate, congratulate
@mowainwright73Ай бұрын
Yep. Maybe our alternate timeline selves are enjoying that unity.😢
@mehulchavda7712Ай бұрын
Hearing ken saying he listen to Punjabi music caught me off guard 😅
@meitijwara1085Ай бұрын
I agree with everything Feefo said
@eyeswidevideoАй бұрын
Kendrick can have a larger than life sound, which I think is necessary for a conscious rapper to pop. You can't just be a dope lyricist. Your sound has to fill arenas to be a mainstream conscious rapper.
@bkspideyАй бұрын
I want to hear the full convo of what Lupe said because all i saw online was a 13 second snippet with zero context.
@SeelatseeАй бұрын
Feefo cooked 🔥🍳
@mikeyexplainseverything5482Ай бұрын
Feefo got a point about The Cool and Food and Liquor not having an impact on pop culture, GKMC is still on the bilboard 200 today and that album came out 12 years ago
@CHUCKSANDPOLOSАй бұрын
Lol I know y’all love Lupe and I do too but GKMC is literally the longest charting Solo hip hop album of all time. Food and liquor and the cool do not match that ONE albums impact. Y’all need to just be real about this shit
@HimieFreemanАй бұрын
Arguing that Food & Liquor had the same cultural impact as GKMC is just insane 😂. GKMC is probably the most iconic hip-hop album of its generation. F&L is not in that conversation for the 2000s. I love Lupe but c’mon. And Tony Parker isn’t a bad comparison, they just don’t remember how cold Tony was.
@iMimp0sibleАй бұрын
Lupe is better than both Drake and Kendrick with the technicality, wordplay and metaphors but I think he overvalues this as ‘rap skill’ so he thinks he is better than Kendrick and is annoyed that dot has had the more acclaimed career. He doesn’t realise that Kendrick’s story telling, tone changes, writing, flows and deeper themes is why people connect more to him as his albums feel more purposeful. He then proceeds to praise drake as it’s obvious if drake is better than Kendrick then lupe is better than drake so his praise of worse rappers like logic and drake is not really sincere, it’s just him protecting his own ego
@robertfoster6940Ай бұрын
People have to remember Lupe was about to be the next big rapper until he fell out woth Atlantic & then he called obama a terroirst. He was really blackeballed after that. So Lule def was on hisnway to be a huge rap star.
@hidebehindyourscreenАй бұрын
Taking it out on Kendrick will backfire
@robertfoster6940Ай бұрын
@hidebehindyourscreen yeah I really wasn't focused on that. But Lupe has def been hating on Dot since 2014 lol. But idk if either one of them want a problem with the other one. Lupe is deadly with the 🖊, & Dot just showed that he's pretty psycho & will write a story about you.
@yokaigypsyАй бұрын
He was right about Obama.
@robertfoster6940Ай бұрын
@yokaigypsy yeah. And that's why he disappeared for a lil bit right after that
@IWAC2013Ай бұрын
He was right about Obama but the way u say things matters lol. Nobody wanted to hear him out after the way he said it
@Scorpionqueen1229Ай бұрын
Thank goodness for Feefo….. cause I need clarification too. Lupe has not made a single thing clear. 23:50
@knickknack675Ай бұрын
Ah I just missed the live lmfao
@jahleelflechaАй бұрын
lol me too 🤣🤣😭
@vicstone8817Ай бұрын
Lupe is my top 10 favourite rappers of all time but I agree with Feefo, Lupe’s albums may be the same quality as Kendrick’s but it will never have the same impact. Some can argue that Testuo & Youth is a better album than TPAB but you’ll be lying to say that it had the same impact as TPAB 🤷🏾♂️ GKMC changed the way rappers made albums in the 2010’s,m and even now, whenever an artist makes a conceptual album it is always gets compared to GKMC. Food and Liquor never had that cultural impact.