Candyman (2021) KILL COUNT

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[@MrCommentGod]

*Rip for the 17 deaths*

[@NightShadow720]

Every time I post a comment on one of these Kill Counts, I just get blatantly ignored. Also, it seems that every time a new Kill Count video is posted, over hundreds of comments are already post making impossible to find mine or they're just too lazy to scroll down. But for some reason, I just learn to live with it.

[@michaelrobinson4745]

😎

[@zNxghtmare_7]

Hi

[@kellyjohnson3271]

6th

[@Ironmonger38]

Fun Fact for those who didn’t know. The cellist mentioned at 4:41 is an Oscar winning composer for her score on Joker. She also won an Emmy for her work on Chernobyl.

[@CoratMcRed]

I knew I recognized that name from somewhere, glad to know she’s still getting work

[@methatis3013]

That promounciation is abysmal tho

[@drpibisback7680]

She also was a collaborator on Sunn O)))'s _Life Metal_ and _Pyroclasts,_ for all my metalheads out there.

[@whitedom2041]

funner fact: my names jack and i do not care less about your "fun" fact

[@tangocollective-entropysys6676]

@@whitedom2041 funnest fact, we didn't ask about your rudeness

[@SuperSara924]

I just love the parallel of Tony Todd’s Candyman being a painter when he was alive then Anthony growing up to be a painter. Even if he was unaware he was always connected to Candyman

[@geoffreyfyfe2248]

Yes, I saw that as an implication that he could never escape his fate.

[@thebrideofghostface]

I never thought about that before lol

[@virtualcynical8515]

@@geoffreyfyfe2248 That's the Perfect Sentiment. It reflects how all this is Cyclical; It's all happened before, and it'll most likely happen again. All these Candymen were the Victims of Profiling or Abuse, and they all form the Legend through their Similarities, despite being different people.

[@miketrapper0464]

It’s like poetry sorta they rhyme

[@cuddlycuddlycactus2999]

Parallel or contrived? I d k yet still trying to process

[@slumpmane1543]

Thank you for talking about the score, the music is half the experience. So many channels don’t even bother mentioning the composers name, so as a young beginning composer for film thank you so much for including little information like his approach, reasoning, and techniques he did. Seriously one of the best KZbin channels in the world, thanks for all you do for us James!

[@Tokii_Toki]

!!!!!!!!

[@zachiswayposi1]

For real. The score was AMAZING.

[@PeepThaGod]

This is why I love watching dead meat they have so much information as well as the kill count

[@delete---7593]

?

[@ohritz3939]

Dead meat does this a lot

[@ZacharyResky]

“I wish Candyman didn’t have to exist,”- that is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve heard regarding themes behind horror movies.

[@tangela3973]

This version is much more difficult to watch compared to the original

[@lv4656]

When it mentioned a little boy was one of the candy men, plus the end credit scene it made me realize it was about the very real George Stinney who was a kid sent to the electric chair after wrongly accused of murder. It’s heartbreaking that it is all based on real tragedy

[@liyahtw8505]

Another one with the man carried by a racist white people was real as well, James Byrd Jr.

[@natebox4550]

Damn, bit weird how he would act as a candy man though, he’s like 8 how tf is he able to kill people?

[@liyahtw8505]

@@natebox4550 He was falsely accused of it. This was during the Jim crow era.

[@natebox4550]

@@liyahtw8505 I meant the little boy.

[@liyahtw8505]

@@natebox4550 im talking about the little boy as well. Just trying to educate you more about it.

[@sarreth8480]

My daughter is an art history student and she was very excited about the art/use of light shows throughout the film, and recognized the influence of Kara Walker's work right away. The amount of effort, research, and care put into all these elements shows! Shoutout to everyone involved! Candyman is an amazingly done film, with the featured art, the phenomenal score, and of course the terrific cast!! Thx for covering this one James!

[@Cat-uo4vw]

I absolutely love seeing the influence her work had with the shadow puppets. I saw some of her work at my local art museum and did some research for a paper I was doing in my Art course.

[@klandgraf6956]

Oooo I didn’t catch that at first. Damn that’s good

[@Clownbunnycosplay]

I feel bad for Sherman, but also coming out of the wall, and laughing holding candy, is- like really creepy,

[@onceafetus426]

Exactly I don't think old Sherman was good in the head and I feel bad but I would do the same thing If i saw a creepy guy singing and crawling out a wall

[@miketrapper0464]

I feel bad for most of these candymen

[@thewriter8762]

That’s life man. And it sucks. I know in high school I was always “off” to people but I was always given the benefit of the doubt. But not everyone gets that.

[@geoffreyfyfe2248]

I'm pretty sure he had some kind of mental issue.

[@mrmeowsermoney]

Yeah, like that probably happened during the big "razorblades in candy" scare too

[@PattyBateman]

SHES FIFTY SIX?! Dude, she looks GOOD.

[@jgcoverkknot5701]

She looks like she aged five years max between the original and this one, it's insane

[@theorderofthebees7308]

Good Black don’t crack! It’s that melanin baby

[@utubeuser.777]

It’s funny seeing you here Patrick.

[@tangela3973]

When I saw her in the previews before the movie came out, I said the same thing, she's still beautiful 😍

[@alexandraluster284]

Ikr?? She actually looks YOUNGER than she did in the first Candyman!

[@niwdeeel]

I agree with James that the movie could have been 15-20 minutes longer to really sell that last 3rd act. Burke descending into his bitter true self, Anthony being fully taken over by the Hive, and showing the aftermath of the whole endeavor and how a character like Brianna would cope with everything.

[@marcoc7388]

Totally agree! Honestly, I feel like Burke turning into who he really is could've been way more compeling and believable if the third act was longer. I still think they had some Director's Cut version where that part is longer because it feels cut in half.

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

The alternate ending kind of gives that last one.

[@tonypeppermint5329]

@@marcoc7388 Oh, I hope so.

[@ariannamccarney1018]

So long

[@edcano2293]

He said 10, but I agree

[@TellItAnimated]

I was gonna say James' hat is backwards, but when he looks in a mirror it looks correct, nice touch!

[@catgaming357]

163 likes? 0 comments? Eh

[@miketrapper0464]

Is it?

[@MindScape06]

@@miketrapper0464 yea

[@raediationn]

I didn't even notice that. That is such an amazing detail!!!

[@swagmcfly3280]

I believe that’s actually how they were sent out to market the film. Like the intro credits being backwards

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

I can't help but mention that Tony Todd's cameo at the end was simply perfect

[@q-miiproductions878]

damn comment spoiled me again

[@harleylaufeyson6136]

Fun fact: The original ending was supposed to be Brianna putting up an art gallery with all of Anthony's artworks about all the Candyman in his memory

[@maxthescarecrow4038]

@@harleylaufeyson6136 The script went through a lot of re-writes. In one version, Anthony was summoning Heather, Prucell's relative (I believe? Might be Prucell himself, I forget) plays the role that Burk does at the end and the finale is Brianna talking to Anthony's mother about the nature of Candyman (again, if I remember correctly). Wish that the film having 3 writers and re-writes wasn't felt as much as it is in the final film.

[@OperationNova]

@@q-miiproductions878 if you hate him, just block him

[@XXX-ir4iq]

@@OperationNova Its not the original one its a fake account 😂

[@AmySay]

Holy crow, Vanessa E. Williams looks absolutely STUNNING. I really thought they casted an actress younger than the main actor!

[@dotapark]

My exact thought. She look so young and it isn't "for her age" type young.

[@erictaylor479]

For sure.She looks absolutely amazing.

[@ChibiFighter]

I can't believe she's in her 50s she barely looks like she touched her 30s

[@nataliestownsend4211]

Vanessa E Williams looks amazing 56 wow I hope I look as good as her at that age ❤

[@ShortHax]

Someone should’ve done a bit of tomfoolery by sneaking a bee into the theatre and letting it go when the character’s summoned Candyman

[@tanukioh]

On the one hand, that would be a scary and fun prank in concept. On the other hand, if that bee stung someone allergic to bee stings it could go horribly wrong. Probably best no one risked it.

[@satara2520]

​@@tanukioh would make it funnier

[@shitposter1000]

@@tanukioh would make it funnier

[@howtobreedagod]

@@tanukioh would make it funnier

[@Eckvd]

@@tanukioh would make it funnier

[@KidFresh71]

The bee sting after-effects body horror had my trypophobia kicking into high gear. Props to the make-up team, for disgustingly perfect work. Another great Kill Count from James- we will miss him!

[@Hayanomie]

Where's he going??

[@KidFresh71]

@@Hayanomie James is taking a 1/2 year hiatus from the Kill Count, effective after the holidays

[@cutelookin]

@@KidFresh71 omg 🥺🥺🥺 i’m glad he’s getting a break though

[@Wowitzkay]

@@KidFresh71 WHAT?!?!

[@skyofthelivingdead]

Same. I have a pretty iron stomach and I’m fine with all the usual gross stuff; blood, piss, shit, puke, pus, etc. But the effects of his skin genuinely make me cringe from how gross they looked.

[@darkmario3321]

As ironic as this may seem, this is definitely one of my top "comfort" channels. I love how this channel gives credit to everyone that is shown and provides little tidbits about them, from the soundtrack's author to even the soundtrack author's celloist.

[@ReelMuzikFein]

Yeah. He’s great for this. And I appreciate it

[@traviscummings9178]

From what I could tell, the movie was also trying to show how stories can change over time. Though we the audience know that Helen Lyle was a hero who saved Anthony that night, her story evolved to make her into a villain. For the third act, I'm starting to think that Burke got it in his head somehow that he could change the story of Candyman in the same way, turning him from a murderer into a protector

[@pureneoflow4666]

The shadow puppetry was friggin phenominal. I would love to see a full length film told this weay. Or evern several shorts. Its so errier but the message is sooooo loud its defaning. Absolutly beautiful.

[@RealBradMiller]

Have you seen the newer Dark Crystal series on Netflix?!?! It was puppets, doing shadow puppetry and it was excellent!

[@pureneoflow4666]

@@RealBradMiller I've come across it on Netflix but not watched it, I'll have to Gove it ago!

[@rosieelliott5515]

It reminds me of Harry potter when Luna lovegoods dad is telling Harry Ron and Hermione about the story of the three brothers.

[@seantds619]

I love that when you see Clive getting killed, you can see Candyman in the reflections of the walls, floor, and windows. It's a nice piece of attention to detail

[@axelnilsson5124]

How is that continuity? In the original everyone could see him without a mirror or window and he’s invisible on camera

[@aceb4634]

@@axelnilsson5124 the mirror theme.

[@ssharkbait]

Candyman is also randomly in reflections and mirrors throughout the entire movie. I think it really added to the feeling of paranoia when you would randomly see him lurking.

[@pack-a-punch8586]

@@axelnilsson5124 depends on the perspective dudeb

[@seantds619]

@@axelnilsson5124 sorry i used the wrong wording I meant attention to detail

[@shadowlinkbds]

Tony Todd is just a frigging legend when it comes to voicing or playing villainous characters. Hell I'm excited for his voice performance as Venom in the Marvels Spiderman 2 game coming in 2023. I too was ashame that Tony was barely in the film too but overall this was a solid movie.

[@kingsman5121]

Him not being in the movie honestly ruined the whole thing for me call me shallow

[@claratalbot7613]

Not going to lie. I fan girl squealed when I heard his voice at the end. Which is probably what I'll do if I even meet the man in real life (to my eternal embarrassment)

[@kingsman5121]

@@claratalbot7613 and then you asked where the fuck was he the entire movie. Okay maybe you didn’t but I know I did

[@claratalbot7613]

@@kingsman5121 Lol. No I didn't but after I squealed I said I missed u buddy

[@camdom_draws]

aaaa im so excited for him as venom!!!! he seems like the perfect choice for him and im really looking forward to that performance :”))

[@madam-mint]

This is definitely me thinking too deep, but for the original Candyman, I think them cutting off his good hand, as a painter, and replacing it with a hook, feels like it’s sending a message of erasing any beautiful or “good” aspects of him (like how people of color are unfairly vilified, particularly after their deaths) and trying to send him to his death as nothing but a monster.

[@random-_-dude]

What the frick are you on about? People of color are glorified now a-days, especially after death, and especially especially after they are killed (except if they are killed by another black person) even if they were in the wrong.

[@sacrificiallambchop3333]

You phrased that really well!

[@prbetty719]

Hmm 🤔 nowadays, it's actually the white ppl who are unfairly vilified. The tables have turned with today's standards, I don't think it should lean heavily in either direction though. Whenever there's a shooting, if it was a white person, it's all over the news no problem, but if it wasn't a white person, no one really covers it out of fear of being deemed racist...haven't you noticed that? Think about it, if someone says black and proud, is widely accepted and cheered on, but if someone says white and proud, lots of eyebrows are raised and it's seen as racist...why? It's okay to be white, mass media wants ppl to believe that white ppl are just inheritly racist. That's so wrong...its actually racist 😕 I'm neither, this is just an observation I've made as an outsider. Having a victim mentality is not healthy for anyone, it makes ppl of color and women seem weak...which we definitely aren't. No one in the USA should have a victim mentality when everything is at our disposal. I could hear James' white guilt when explaining this crappy movie & it was cringe, I didn't even make it to "Let's get to the kills", too pathetic. I don't care to see this movie because Jordan Peele hasn't exactly had a good track record in horror, I was just going to watch this movie via the kill count, I couldn't even make it through that though 🥱🙄

[@saltyj6712]

Lmao

[@MadnessBomber]

That could be something actually. I read on TVtropes that Sherman, the one who handed out candy and was blamed for razors, was corrupted by the hive to be seen as what the tales of him say; that he was the one who put razors in candy. It's shown he was just a strange individual who liked handing out candy and was actually just a nice, if awkward, individual. But when he became a Candyman, that was distorted, asshown in the elevator scene where Anthony got cut by a blade in the piece of candy. It would work with the idea that the original lost what made him "good" and corrupted his image, and could possibly be what happened to the others. Also, isn't Anthony's painting hand chopped off too?

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

Hearing Tony Todd say that he wishes Candyman didn't have to exist, is sincerely moving. I grew a tear in my eye. Great cover of the film, James. Your pod was great too, cred to Chelsea.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

it's sad that such tragedies take place in our world.

[@miketrapper0464]

It hits close to home

[@queeffersthrlnd1620]

i mean its based on a story from the UK and about white people so he doesnt exist lol.

[@charliecoke7396]

@@queeffersthrlnd1620 Missing the point completely but ok

[@andyrobin7196]

oh please

[@silverflight01]

Even though the ending feels rushed, I really love how the story played out. The shadow puppet segments were my favorite moments.

[@mlghitler251]

for me, the movie feels like it's an endless buildup that gets distracted until it realizes there are only 10 minutes to go and needs to wrap up...I thought it was very well acted and shot but written terribly from a pacing issue and a fair amount of clunky dialogue

[@ItsRyanHello]

@@mlghitler251 seems to be a theme in movies related to Peele lmao

[@mlghitler251]

@@ItsRyanHello I don't feel that way about US or Get Out

[@ItsRyanHello]

@@mlghitler251 Get Out was good US was awful

[@mlghitler251]

@@ItsRyanHello I actually enjoyed it a little more personally but I think both are great original horror

[@DecayingSoldier]

I absolutely LOVE the interpretation of him floating with his head covered in bees That visual alone is insanely awesome. The surrealism is so unnearving

[@saigonhenry5468]

Yeah it is 💯🐝 .. just wish more was in place in this movie .. Where’s Bloody Mary at ? Y’all forgot about her 🤨

[@Kehwanna]

Man, I felt so bad about Sherman (the innocent guy that was just giving out candy) getting killed. He reminded me of some family members and good people I know that don't have a malicious atom in their body.

[@liamflanner2440]

I always love how these movies tie with each with their originals

[@Mrking813]

What do you mean these movies? Just curious..

[@liamflanner2440]

@@Mrking813 the original movies like Friday the 13, Nightmare on Elm Street , or The Candyman. All of those

[@miketrapper0464]

@@liamflanner2440 and Halloween

[@liamflanner2440]

@@miketrapper0464 yep can’t forget Halloween

[@shreb6182]

@@liamflanner2440 how can you forget leprechaun returns???

[@BACKWARDI]

James does more then just count the kills, and I can appreciate that.

[@TheBooker26]

He does amazing film critiques

[@JackTorrance333]

I hate his incessant pandering to all people of color. Among many other things.

[@blueface717]

@@JackTorrance333 ok

[@eclipse_moon105]

@@JackTorrance333 huh? Bro are we watching the same thing? Because he is not pandering

[@abdu-rahmanel-shewy3063]

@@JackTorrance333 you’re racist, pal

[@pearce_9103]

Rest In Peace, Tony Todd

[@noahmichel8352]

I’m so glad Brianna survived through. She was so smart in her decisions and I think she is such a likable character

[@sharkieshablm2640]

I really be trying to not snap right now at yo blatant racism. Saying she's smart and how nice it is. My man, u saying we ain't smart? That seeing a smart blackcwoman is shocking to you? You may not want our black race to rub shoulders with yall but we done with white Supremecy tactics u seem to thrive with. Please allow me to educate you on the REAL history of black folk and why whitey saw us as a threat so they ebslaved us

[@scorpion32]

What happened to the north side missionary church was just horrific, completely destroyed one of Chicago's iconic landmarks.

[@andrewhutton4009]

Correct, it was a beautiful symbol of equality

[@heatheraucoin5832]

And then covered it in white, to give it a more suitable tone, is the meaning of white wash.

[@Ghost-fe1vp]

@@heatheraucoin5832 I don't think many people are into the idea of churchs with dead people on the sides.

[@SacredSpirit1337]

10:30 It’s so cool that you can see the Candyman in the mirror actually taking a swing before her throat gets slit.

[@hafizaz-9858]

g c 2 7

[@jellycrackerzzz411]

i worked in a theater when this movie came out and i never saw the whole movie through but trust me cleaning empty theaters in the dark with that end credit sequence playing was so scary

[@igodzmelt5473]

After only starting to watch these kill counts in the last couple of weeks this series has become one of my favourite on KZbin! Thank you James 😁😁😁

[@FriedIce3]

Welcome to the rabbit hole

[@mlgprosam2873]

@@drewwuorinen9473 better late than never

[@bagblud]

@@drewwuorinen9473 damn thats crazy but who asked. Better late than never

[@tonyyy3427]

I found the first Friday the 13th kill count a few days after it was released loved this channel ever since

[@rubyrose5642]

More Meatheads! Always love to see them! Welcome to the crew!

[@Ryan-ob6gp]

Fun fact: Librarian is actress Cassie Kramer - she was originally cast - and filmed scenes - as the final burnt 'ghost' version of Helen Lyle. You can see her in the church pews in the first released trailer for the movie. They cut the entire part in the edit, but she was invited back for the reshoots done in the library.

[@titaniumman02]

I love the idea of James trying out different ways to get into the Numbers Void and writing down all the ones that work.

[@extraordinaryminx]

As a black woman, you're absolutely right. I STILL would NEVER do that shit, not Candyman, not Bloody Mary, none of them. & Teyonah Parris was a mood when she saw that basement, I wouldn't go down either. I love that you mentioned she's more crafty than usual horror movie characters & I love that. Alright, off to watch The Forever Purge Kill Count lol

[@kazmiller7195]

The fact that James recorded this in front of a mirror shows how brave he really is

[@mortenu.5606]

RIP James

[@Sandyoo6026]

Oh crap yeah💀

[@PattyBateman]

The amount of times this man probably said candyman

[@bloodyfang521]

I love how James with all his kill counts can make a gruesome or dark movie turn into a upbeat, cut to the chase documentary with also facts surrounding the movie that are interesting and lifts you out of a dark or gruesome scene he just showed. Gotta love is cheerful attitude to everything.

[@haleyg6991]

Anthony who was on the makeup crew actually won a season of Face Off, like Nora from the fanmade Jason video. He's insanely talented and I'm happy seeing him in the horror genre!

[@ashrooms]

I thought he looked familiar!

[@olgagachaphoenix9130]

Isnt face that one show that premiered in the Sci Fi channel?

[@haleyg6991]

@@olgagachaphoenix9130 Yes! It’s very good though it ended a few years ago with 13 seasons though all seasons are on Hulu.

[@ktpartridge8084]

I only found this channel a little while ago but I’m blown away by how much you talk and inform about the movie for it being a “kill count” I have learned so much about some of these movies and what truly goes into them.

[@Lemon_Oppy]

The original is one of my favorites the themes are extremely effective, but end up being more subtle than this film, I have a few gripes with this movie, but overall I REALLY enjoyed the new one, the multiple Candyman is genius because urban legends evolve and there’s staples of each legend, but some of the specificities are different, it does mean less Tony Todd which is a shame, but it’s still great and beautiful to look at

[@virtualcynical8515]

I'm with you, One-hundred Percent. Alot of people say this Movie isn't Subtle (and it really isn't Subtle at all), but the working of the movies Themes and Narratives into the plot work because of the Cast. We're given Anthony's story, shown what happened to him and, as James said, Reminded that all the Candymen were real people, real human beings, who were the victim of some form of tragedy. I love it because, as you say, that's how urban legends form. The idea of Multiple Candymen forming one Collective figure represents how myths are born from multiple accounts and multiple stories. The Tragedy of America's history with Racism, and it's consistent reoccurrence in Modern times Made Candyman, and this movie, Subtle or Not, explored these themes expertly through Narrative, strong character writing, and beautiful Cinematography.

[@OhWowThatsDumb]

That’s actually one of my biggest complaints, they throw every single thing in your face with this movie and after a while it does nothing but annoy the majority of people even if we agree with what they are saying

[@miketrapper0464]

@@OhWowThatsDumb i feel like this movie is a bit overrated by rotten tomatoes

[@zombieslayer2016]

@@OhWowThatsDumb that's hitting the nail directly on the head the worst example of that in my opinion is honestly the ending with the cops it genuinely just feels like the creators pointing at the screen and saying "do you get it"

[@slash6814]

@@virtualcynical8515 Honestly, that's the problem with the movie, too upfront about everything, I honestly compared it to Santa's Sleigh, except actually good, but still, when it comes to horror movies, Horror first, politics second, that's where Candyman falls, especially the jabs at white people

[@skyofthelivingdead]

I really like Brianna’s character, I wish we got a bit more of her.

[@willhuey4462]

i think the sequel will have her as the main character.

[@skyofthelivingdead]

@@willhuey4462 I hope so. She’d be perfect. She’s smart, likable, and empathetic. All traits you need for a good protagonist.

[@shai310]

Not to mention she is actually a smart horror character that's so rare to see.

[@mysterygirl0423]

She smart as hell for avoiding a lot of areas in which other characters willingly go through for some reason. She decided not to descend to the basement. I love how she looked at the darkness in the basement and was like “nope.”

[@willhuey4462]

@@mysterygirl0423 she was also smart to summon candyman to kill the police at the end but that could come back to bite her in the ass in the sequel.

[@MrWii000]

I just learnt that Tony Todd passed away tonight (RIP). James is gonna be heart-broken... 😢

[@eftelyasahin80]

I love the fact that he is giving a lot of background information about the artists behind the movie!

[@elizabethbryce4283]

Her lil thing at 18:04 was the CUTEST. Thank you for including it.

[@that.frog..438]

cute?

[@matthewmcshane399]

I think the burke flashback is meant to represent how he's been traumatised by both the candyman legend and the police killing.

[@Zusse]

I love the cinematography in this film and the kills but I really feel this movie hits and misses in many spots

[@kusivittu9543]

@The Badderman what the fuck are you talking about

[@lecrusty1984]

@The Badderman No you don't, you're too poor to even own a sofa for yourself.

[@kusivittu9543]

@The Badderman dont care didnt ask not scared

[@onceafetus426]

@The Badderman What?

[@shatogirl]

@The Badderman HAHAHAHAHAH people don’t have to like a movie just because a black person directed it or starred in it? are you delusional

[@nekocookiee]

I had a coworker tell me not to watch Candyman because it was pushing a “black lives matter” message too hard and my local movie theater only had it playing for 3 days before they got too many complaints to stop showing it. Just for context, I live in a small town whose population is 2/3 white and 1/3 latino. All my friends and I saw it, and even though there are moments I didn’t like (didn’t feel too much like a horror movie), overall I enjoyed the movie. It was an interesting look at how urban legends can be used to comment on modern day horrors.

[@Ghost-fe1vp]

The constant reminder that racism is bad is a common thing in Peele films. It's pretty annoying.

[@karlmarx2885]

@@Ghost-fe1vp I think that’s just his brand. I like his way of confronting racism in horror and generally bringing more black actors into light

[@saladman420]

@@Ghost-fe1vp you sound like a racist

[@zeerevolutionwillbetelevised]

Its a tough pill to swallow considering the current state of the BLM movement being an utter sham and the whole "cultural phenomon' was purely created to line someones pockets and abuse peoples good faith.

[@karlmarx2885]

@@zeerevolutionwillbetelevised I would say the GROUP did that rather than the movement itself. When it was commodified and those selfish people took the money to buy themselves houses and whatever else I think the message was lost

[@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879]

Excited as always to see a kill count on Sunday

[@GdGamerBoy12]

It helps me get through the week

[@Winnerizzy]

I'm at the beach watching this. Such a vibe

[@sosak4mi]

monday for me

[@mmsthfanatic6296]

66

[@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879]

@Andres Caballero dream meme

[@keithjohnson7893]

I was reading up on Hildur Guðnadóttir’s work like 5 minutes ago. She was the main composer for HBO’s Chernobyl and used the same strategy of natural sounds on site to create the score. Her work on this movie and Chernobyl is really good at setting the tone of the movie.

[@lonelysatoshi2482]

She was also the main composer for Joker, and won her an Oscar

[@FranticStorm]

@@lonelysatoshi2482ok

[@katymbeke8400]

He's not just the man, he's the whole damn hive. He's James A Janesse, and this has been the Kill Count.

[@mortenu.5606]

Now say James full name five times in a row

[@katymbeke8400]

@@mortenu.5606 James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse. James A Janesse.

[@NickelConsumer]

Rest in peace Tony Todd.. we loved you man!

[@crowmortemcorvus0420]

James: 'Is honey pie even a real thing?!' Me: *sings 'Honey Pie - Johnny Utah'*

[@cielwinchester1641]

Candyman's legend is terrifying and very sad because he was created by people, unlike other entities like Slenderman. James did such a great job making the kill counts and not making much jokes like he usually does. Thank you for the kill count even though you're busy James. Stay safe you guys.

[@miketrapper0464]

Although screw the slender man movie

[@Pyramanager]

Ever heard of the ring or the grudge...

[@christopherbennett6571]

What do you mean? Slenderman was literally made by people....

[@ggdiamonz5029]

@@christopherbennett6571 They mean like Slenderman's origin was that he was sorted created on his own, in Canydman's lore the people being killed by other hate filled people led to Candyman being made

[@xx_redwood_xx9737]

@@ggdiamonz5029 Slenderman's whole deal is that he's a thought form

[@RainbowRandolf]

I literally wanted to just hear James' intro to the movie, now I'm going to find and watch it. The fact that there were issues but it overall seems like a reasonably positive review gave me the motivation to seek it out (even though I'd been meaning to watch it for months now, but needed to find a safe way to do so).

[@youngsuperknight_2k674]

I enjoyed it

[@dredvax]

Everything was good until it got close to the end

[@damoncarroll6581]

Movie was just pro ooga da

[@RustyRants]

@@damoncarroll6581 how so

[@sakurakittynoir1400]

R.I.P. Tony Todd. December 4th, 1954 - November 6th, 2024. 😢😢😢

[@justwow8084]

I absolutely love the stylization in this film. From the way some kills are shot, to them constantly showing candyman in the background mirrors, it is awesome and the exact kind of style I've always wanted to see from a horror movie, and that doesnt even mention the super cool paper cut out parts.

[@rapidstar64]

17:25 I know this scene is pretty random and not that significant but honestly I love it, the direction, the sound design, it’s all just a perfect horror sequence

[@tuckershuff1441]

I believe just one final conversation between Burke and an ailing Anthony would've made the end reveal a little more digestible. Maybe have Burke talk about how Helen Lyle hijacked the Candyman legend and he wants Anthony to take it back by fulfilling his destiny and becoming a Candyman legend. Maybe have the line, "Welcome home, Anthony."

[@Thebensupremacy]

Lol that's just pure unnecessary exposition. Would be awful, the film does not need a character to tell us what the film just spent over an hour telling us.

[@Fredster_Real25]

*Tell...Everyone...* -Daniel Robitaille (O.G. Candyman) We will Candyman...we will... R.I.P Tony Todd 😔🍯🐝🐝🐝🐝

[@Someloser3232]

I was damn near screaming when Tony Todd showed up. Candyman was my first horror movie and yes there are moments (two specifically for me) in this film that I think could of been changed but overall I LOVED IT SO MUCH

[@mistamemewide]

I always loved the art direction and the way this movie went. It tells a message by just also being incredibly beautiful.

[@matthewmensah481]

RIP Tony Todd 1954-2024

[@shayne_has_landed2511]

I love watching Kill Counts. I’m someone who’s never actually watched a horror film. I grew up VERY sheltered, and though there are horror films I want to see as a young film student, I’m not sure I’m mentally ready for the whole horror film experience. Watching Kill Count helps me to get used to the horror genre, teaches me about iconic film aspects, and gives me a plot without awakening any trauma. I know from watching Kill Count that there are horror films I need to add to my watchlist, and those to add to my “never watch” list. It’s a really nice way to experience horror as someone with trauma triggers; having someone there to crack jokes along the way and make the experience much less anxiety-attack inducing. So, from a disabled “scaredy-cat”, thank you for this series!!

[@annikavandermale9528]

Same with me!

[@carloscuesta1603]

Same

[@ceilinh6004]

I enjoyed this Kill Count as well as the podcast James and Chelsea did about this movie. They complement each other to perfection.

[@TheNomadicPyramid]

This was the main horror movie I was excited for (alongside Antlers and Last Day in SoHo). And... even though the 3rd act could have taken more time to flush out, this was more than what I expected from an entry into the Candyman franchise. Thank you for this Kill Count, James. You & the rest of the Dead Meat team really made my day with this one

[@itscloud7719]

James you have been doing this for a while and I just want you to know you’re channel is cool af and I love it

[@Salmonbjj]

He should look into the fact that most black people shouldn't be not fighting with police and 95% happens

[@UltimateGamerCC]

@@Salmonbjj plenty of instances happen even when people dont fight, the Police are full of corrupt, limp-dicked assholes who get off on abusing their power.

[@07ghostworld]

The girl who left deserves a “smartest horror movie character” award(from the bathroom scene)

[@tangela3973]

Indeed 😂 cause I don't think I would have been in there playing with that either

[@krtar4199]

I love the little subtle views of Candyman in most the mirrors, something that the creators of the film didn’t need to focus on or add a sound for every time he’s in a mirror, but trusting the audience to find it themself, even if some are obvious and some are only noticed on a second viewing

[@Jack39_sup]

R.I.P Tony Todd

[@MegaDerpification]

The excited gasp and shout of “ANTHONY” i gave when i saw it was kosart effects studio!! Love that dude, incredibly talented, winner of face-off and generally a very kind guy to talk to (even over just twitter!)

[@StoneSullivan1995]

Even though I didn't like the story and the lack of Tony Todd, DiCosta's direction is undeniably fantastic and the score is a character all on its own!

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

Finding out that the original concept was about class issues made me more interested than the “adapted” concept they made the movies about. I swear 9 times out of 10 times any movie “exploring” issues like race, gender or sex always seem to feel like they are talk down to the audience.

[@zachiswayposi1]

@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus Sounds like bitter straight white dude syndrome

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@zachiswayposi1 awww are you scared your privileged position might be in danger if all the peasants stop fighting each other? Good :). Stay mad sjw you’ll be against the wall soon enough.

[@zachiswayposi1]

@@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus A straight white dude trying to call other people privileged would be hilarious if it wasn’t so astronomically lacking in self awareness Also, maybe you can help me out. Why do conservatives think sjw is an insult? “Oh you want equal rights for everyone? Lol okay!” I mean that never really made sense so hopefully you can explain it.

[@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus]

@@zachiswayposi1 “whaaa care about muh made up social issues instead of my privlage!” - you 2021. Stay mad sjw people are getting wise to your type lol.

[@LukeBridges-d6k]

Anyone else rewaching this after the death of Tony Todd. RIP he was a horror legend

[@juile9759]

Can we appreciate the work James did for the whole video and the picture it’s sick

[@samanthasaleh2059]

All while prepping a wedding!!! Guy is a grafter!!!

[@one_bad_mofo8658]

Tony Todd's rich, deep haunting voice is as iconic as James Earl Jones.

[@dylancastellanos87]

Agreed!

[@michaelmanherz7918]

My opinion about social issues in movies is that I’m down with including them as long as the cast and crew are still able to make a good movie with it. I find that sometimes people get too focused on their message and can forget to prioritize or apply proper care and attention to the other aspects of the film.

[@mummeii]

This.

[@ItsRyanHello]

Basically describing any movies made/produced by Jordan Peele lmao

[@EddieHawkinsII]

Exhibit A: Black Christmas 2019.

[@gutterpunk4203]

For real, it's fine to have social commentary, but it just seems offensive when it's too heavy handed

[@finbrackett6802]

It's just sad that every modern Hollywood movie has to have some work bullshit in it. The only reason these movies are made isn't because people want a sequel, It's because they want to push a false narrative. Ex. black hate crimes. It makes law enforcement look bad when It really isn't at all

[@sonicducktheinoccent]

This movie was visually really striking. I have a few issues with the movie in general, but they really made little things like the credits pop

[@andrewwhite7385]

6:14 HOLY FUCK! This man is build like a statue carved out of marble, he looks amazing!

[@virtualcynical8515]

My New Hollywood Crush

[@knoxynyr87]

@@skrimper it’s called steroids dude. That physique isn’t attainable naturally. Another example of Hollywood creating unattainable standards

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

@@knoxynyr87 okay bud

[@andrewwhite7385]

@@knoxynyr87 😛

[@amess3921]

7:10 this whole story is so upsetting and poignant, it really hammers the film's message home.

[@transienthorror]

I absolutely love the way you can make me love movies I have been ambivalent about in the past, or just straight up not liked. One of the things I personally hold in highest regard when it comes to people who talk about movies, is the ability to change people's minds about that stuff, and you've done it magnificently, yet again. 🥰🥰🥰

[@compatriot852]

People don't have an issue with social messages in films. People have an issue when it's forced/blunt. Subtly is very important when doing so

[@owyemen9367]

Exactly, you don't see people getting angry at lotr for its social messages

[@PennyxXxDreadful]

It wasn't the bluntness for me, it was that the message didn't fit with the movie even a little. Why try and make the Candyman some sort of antihero emblematic of racial trauma when he'd just as soon kill a young black girl for locking her brother out of the room and saying his name in the mirror... because now he's the kind of urban legend you could prove in a lab setting because saying his name has a 100% success rate of having him bust in like the Kool-Aid Man.

[@jagshe1829]

SOME people definitely care when there’s a social message regardless

[@JShocks7]

So they DO have an issue with social messages in films lol

[@SomeDigitalGhost]

@@JShocks7 You can argue Legally Blonde has a social message, what's your point?

[@MenxiGoblinQueen]

I REALLY REALLY love that opening shot, a down-up view looking all freaky and making the familiar almost otherworldly

[@MenxiGoblinQueen]

Also looking that good at 56? My goodness, good for her, she looks amazing!

[@taywhit2593]

I really love how these always go into the details of filming and props to the people involved.

[@yupitsjessbbyx3]

I’m willing to bet that the intro shots to the movie being filmed from a bottom of perspective is to indicate the change in story perspective, a top down view is observing from a place of power and influence the bottom up view is observing from the lowest position of influence

[@wonderland07209]

Honestly James, I can’t thank you enough for putting captions on your videos. I have auditory processing disorder, and I can’t watch things without captions. I love your channel so much, thank you for making it accessible

[@myfavoriteboob]

Same, girl! Same!

[@Pup_Cubby]

0:53 "She is in fact six months younger than me, which yes, is a weird thing to realize..." Me scrolling through Facebook seeing my graduating class getting married and having kids, while I sit back, eating chips, watching a man on the internet count deaths in horror movies.

[@goreman7160]

I graduated in 2020 qnd my old classmates are already more successful. I feel your pain

[@leeriches8841]

I'd actually quite like to see 'The Forbidden' turned into a movie. There's not enough British horror movies but when they are made they tend to be pretty good. A take on the UK class system would be very watchable.

[@pilotwhaleproductions5880]

You won’t get it, the media hates the working class and uses racial divisions to ignore them

[@joeldank1708]

Omg yes

[@cassyblack3346]

While I certainly wasn't super into the depiction of Candyman in this movie as a martyr figure I could gel pretty well with the haunting score and beautiful visuals. However the movie really did lose me in the third act, where it felt like went off the rails a bit.

[@gravesidepoet5405]

@David Jones no he was seen as a boogeyman. No one in the first film was “awwwww poor Candyman.”

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@gravesidepoet5405 Eh, when you hear his story you I though "awwww, poor Tony Todd", because he was a tragic villain.

[@gravesidepoet5405]

@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 not really. I was quite indifferent. I tend to be that way unless I’m directly involved.

[@seventeenseventythirteen7465]

@@gravesidepoet5405 Oh, I meant you as in the more universal sense. Not specifically you.

[@gravesidepoet5405]

@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 oh ok. My bad. Alittle misinterpretation on my part.

[@foghornleghorns3244]

Thank you for bringing so much joy to your fans James. Have a happy Christmas 🎅🏻

[@NickNutjob]

The actress who played the art critic was actually originally cast as Helen, and straight into shooting, Helen was the main antagonist of the film. Dacosta wrote that out sometime into filming. You can see her as Helen in the first trailer, and a draft of the script is online as well.

[@SimonPetrikov12]

Interesting. Wonder why she was written out

[@davidschneider9145]

@Simon Petrikov Probably wasn’t her idea but Jordan Peele‘s. And when she noticed that it didn’t fit into her vision of the movie she cut it out.

[@quinnholloway5400]

Antagonist?

[@SomeRandomJackAss]

I remember reading that someone else had been cast as Helen before the movie came out. Honestly, I like that Virginia Madsen did a sort of cameo in the final version, even if Helen's "legend" got shafted.

[@TheRussian13]

Seeing the trailer, I was convinced this movie wasn't going to be worth watching. Now seeing the amazing work put into the making of this movie and the attention to detail, I'm looking forward to watching it. Thanks James for the research you did that shows how sophisticated this film actually is.

[@perlita_]

there’s a reason i don’t watch trailers. you can’t really make a solid judgement based on an edited 30 second snip it of a 2 hr long movie. (also, horror movie trailers tend to put good scare scenes in the trailer which totally ruins the movie) so i say you should just go and watch a movie without watching any trailers. the viewing experience is better that way

[@virgilbarrios3174]

I honestly can't bring myself to like this movie. The gothic feeling from the original is so much better.

[@KayyJayy4evz]

Seeing the effort with the rewriting livestream, paired with the AMAZING turnout for this video (plus the podcast and actual movie's greatness) makes this an insta-Kill Count favorite for me.

[@itsfantomukage]

This movie was actually better than I expected, it still doesn’t beat the original but it was still a good watch

[@punklover99]

Low expectations

[@littlehearttart]

I'm gonna have to disagree, I feel like the movie showed racism better even though it was kinda rushed i felt it was better then the OG

[@punklover99]

@@littlehearttart then the haven't seen the original

[@osakatales9228]

@@littlehearttart How? The original movie showed racism in a more subtle way instead of putting it right in your face like this movie.

[@Teddy-wd3ro]

@@osakatales9228 Sorry but that’s how racism usually is.

[@ssharkbait]

This intro was fantastic. It’s nice to hear someone speak about the movie in a more nuanced way instead of just calling it “woke garbage”. I’m black and I do think that the script can be very over the top with it’s social themes. They could’ve definitely toned it back because I think the cinematography and characters really speak for themselves. It’s weird that all the characters seem to always talk about racism and race almost constantly and overtly. It seemed like it was preaching to the audience instead of letting us actually experience it through empathy. All that being said I feel like people focus way too much on that aspect of this movie and literally nothing else about it.

[@thelazymonk9393]

I feel like that's the fault of writers and directors. They don't think the audience is smart enough to catch these themes so they verbally say it as many times as they can so the audience can know. That's personally why I dislike films with that type of dialogue. Don't underestimate your audience

[@rockinHurley777]

@@thelazymonk9393 right. The audience for the most part, are not stupid. I dont want to be preached at. I just want to enjoy the movie

[@stackbundles718]

I just hate when things like that are so painfully obvious and in your face. The first one did it just right. I don't think it's a bad movie still, but I wish they toned it down and let it speak for itself.

[@MrPokebozz]

@@stackbundles718 the first one did it right without being woke trash but because it was a white director it doesn't make the movie good or whole? That's what i got from james monologue

[@That_guy_mike.]

Agree with everything you said. My biggest problem with the film was that they had so much visual storytelling that expressed the message they were going for but then the characters spell it all out for you anyway even though it’s message really isn’t that complex or easy to miss. This wasn’t the first message based movie that’s fallen into that trap and this was nowhere near the worst example of it but I’m not surprised people hyper focused on the messaging and when the film basically asked for that to happen

[@sIccowL]

Rest In Peace Tony Todd my favorite character was in the final destination movies

[@burnum]

Well, alot of times when a person's alias gets popular, others will claim to be that person. Either in defense of the original, or to use the name to strike fear in others. Batman and the Power Rangers are two great examples of this.

[@sadieven0704]

Correct but I don’t believe that applies to the candy man since it’s a sort of reference more than a person themselves

[@djjohnson9389]

Lived in Cabrini Green for almost 3 years when I lived in Chicago. The area is so different now it's like the city is trying to erase the fact that there were projects there at one point. The area has been completely changed.

[@digitalsmithy]

I see what you mean but also what should they do? build more projects? I walked by one of the towers in 2003 and was bombarded by glass bottles being thrown at me from above. Wild times

[@djjohnson9389]

@@digitalsmithy no defintely not I absolutely loved the area but maybe find a way to help preserve some of the history.

[@casenado3568]

17:56 she’s 56 are you kidding me she looks 30!

[@Eternal_Slumber]

Fr

[@parkermacinnis3977]

Candyman vs The Dentist...the epic showdown...