Deadpool & Wolverine Spoiler Talk + More

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@Th3Birdman
@Th3Birdman 3 ай бұрын
Talking spoilers. Normally don't do this kind of thing, but y'all kept asking, so I'll give ye what ye asked foreth. I also had some thoughts on the RDJ as Doom situation, and how it tied into the Jonathan Majors story in my mind. I felt like the interviewer brought up a great point, that Ezra and RDJ got an opportunity even after their personal situations, but Majors didn't. I don't think Disney should hire wanton criminals or anything, but dude got a misdemeanor for trying to run away from (and being rough with) a woman ON CAMERA. He's not even a felon. But Ezra behaves like a maniac, and WB still has them in the Harry Potter franchise as well as releasing The Flash? What the hell is going on? Click the Join button or join here: kzbin.info/door/r9dAaPfxCBJS1oaeJWDtaQjoin Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Godzilla x Kong: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJTZgGaYobSVpM0 Twitter: twitter.com/Th3birdman15 Instagram: instagram.com/Th3Birdman15/ Discord Invite Code: nQZRn5m Subreddit: reddit.com/r/Th3Birdman
@THE_BEAR_JEW
@THE_BEAR_JEW 3 ай бұрын
RDJ's issues were from way back and he'd gotten his life together by the time they hired him as Iron Man. Also, Iron Man was not some Batman-level box office draw when RDJ got that role. Iron Man was a B tier hero. The MCU now is much bigger and you gotta be way more careful with who you cast as there's far more on the line, especially if he's gonna be your big villain for an entire arch. With Erza I do agree he got too many chances. He's a total POS. Thing is, those cinematic universes that Ezra is in are sinking ships and WB knows that, which is probably why they just let it ride. Having Ezra on wasn't gonna affect the bottom line, they were just trying to recoup some of that money before axing that particular DC universe and probably putting the Harry Potter stuff on hold for a long time.
@grantpowell4135
@grantpowell4135 3 ай бұрын
Wearing my justice league shirt to the theater today because I'm peachy
@LuckySmurf
@LuckySmurf 3 ай бұрын
@@THE_BEAR_JEW For the Flash movie and Ezra Miller, wasn't it too far into production for them to do anything about it anyways (like a recast).It's why the promotion of that movie was almost entirely focused on Michael Keaton's Batman. edit: I think the equivalent would be if the Kang Dynasty movie was well into production when his controversy came up.
@regulusking4299
@regulusking4299 3 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@THE_BEAR_JEWyeah with RDJ I can get it bc his issues weren’t so recent when he got hired and back then he wasn’t put into a big role as Iron Man is now. And MCU casting isn’t as fragile and sensitive as it is now since it’s gotten so big. It was a matter of time and role relevance at the time. Erza is a different story, though these are different studios so it’s WB fault and not Disney with Erza. Disney was being cautious with its current state, WB is a different story
@AlMoSiCe210
@AlMoSiCe210 3 ай бұрын
Like you, there's a lot of thoughts so here we go. 1. I hate that Jonathan Majors hit job that the spineless individual did on Jonathan asking him those kinds of questions when he's just going for a walk. Like, you don't ask those kinds of questions in that setting as she's clearly trying to get a reaction out of him. Now, here in New York, Majors has a bit of a reputation so I personally believe that it was just a bad situation for both him & his ex as they were wrong for each other, just as that stupid person was wrong for coming at JM like that. Comparing his situation to RDJ & Ezra Miller is like saying a tiger, a housecat, & a beanie baby of a cat are the same thing because they're cats. RDJ had long put his past behind him [we're talking about decades but if we're being pedantic, he was about 6ish years post incidents after he was cast as Iron Man & even that was a gamble], Ezra got way too many chances & should've been ousted as well as the fact that we don't see him in any new movies. The Majors situation is STILL relatively fresh so both on a healing level & a linear level, it's way too soon to say that Majors would've made an RDJ type recovery. It sucks for me to say that as someone who was a day one JM stan since seeing him in The Last Black Man in San Francisco, but Disney had to pivot... but... 2. COLMAN F*CKIN DOMINGO. IF Disney were going to pivot, not recasting Kang with Colman Domingo was a MASSIVE missed opportunity. He has said he's down for entering this world & has the chops to be the Ultimate Kang but writing it out this way feels so lazy. I'm with you on the recasting & how weird it is & despite what I may have said earlier, I do feel REALLY BAD for Jonathan Majors. I do hope he is able to heal a bit & that in time, he can return. 3. Everything you said about fanservice. YUP. 4. I think that amidst all the RDJ news, folks are forgetting that the Russo Brothers are returning to direct the Avengers movies with Stephen McFeely writing them. THE SAME GUYS involved with the best MCU movies. We'll be fine. Didn't mean for this to end up like War & Peace, but I had a lot of feelings.
@Pedro_Marangon
@Pedro_Marangon 3 ай бұрын
The part about Blade saying "There will be only one Blade" and DP looking at the camera, at least to me, is more of a jab about how the MCU Blade movie is taking forever to be made, even though Mahershala Ali already made a non-visible cameo in the Eternals post credit scene
@TheRealSlickGoku
@TheRealSlickGoku 3 ай бұрын
"There will only ever be one Blade"
@BlaxkSun
@BlaxkSun 3 ай бұрын
The fact that there’s already a 4th blade
@DonEBrooke32
@DonEBrooke32 3 ай бұрын
@@BlaxkSun to the Wesley Snipes version? who played him while he was in jail?
@romegottie3218
@romegottie3218 3 ай бұрын
Yes sir that’s what I took from it 👍🏽
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL 3 ай бұрын
​@@DonEBrooke32 cry more boy
@BigLarge
@BigLarge 3 ай бұрын
I live in Alberta Canada and when deadpool said « keep my countries name out of your mouth » the whole theatre broke out to a thunderous applause
@Yumi_Jay
@Yumi_Jay 3 ай бұрын
I live in Washington state and my theatre was laughing at that too. I think Ryan is from Vancouver BC.
@racdude01
@racdude01 3 ай бұрын
That’s Awesome! I was born and raised in Alberta Canada but live in Milwaukee now so I was cheering alone for that line
@scty66
@scty66 3 ай бұрын
Watching Wolverine use his body weight to ram cars and metal doors was great. Watching him be more animal in the fights and more physical was great.
@grantpowell4135
@grantpowell4135 3 ай бұрын
Man weighs a literal ton lol
@frewrldmusic
@frewrldmusic 3 ай бұрын
what happened to majors is heartbreaking man. u can tell he's trying to play it safe with his response and you can tell he's hurt and he addresses it like he knows he won't win against the media. tuff man
@citydagreatbishop2613
@citydagreatbishop2613 3 ай бұрын
He lost a 20 million dollar advance for Avengers Kang dynasty...I would be hurt too..but i do wish they gave him a chance like they did RDJ but I get it
@Subtekjr
@Subtekjr 3 ай бұрын
@@citydagreatbishop2613I think though, doing it so soon after is unlikely. RDJ had like 5 years to work on himself and they put very strict requirements in all of his other film contracts before he got to play Iron Man There’s nothing saying that Majors aren’t come back later, but fresh from a conviction, you can’t really keep him in the franchise right now
@Regibump37
@Regibump37 3 ай бұрын
The original Deadpool movie was literally giving Ryan Renolds a second chance after Origins: Wolverine, literally giving what so many fans of the character wanted (along with fixing up Colossus, and later Juggernaut in the sequel, which were poorly handled in the prime films), and they’re complaining about the films throwing in fan service now? Plus the most hype fan service (aka the yellow spandex) was done excellently with its buildup and was given a perfect in universe explanation.
@RileyN6.21
@RileyN6.21 3 ай бұрын
Just realized how great the Johnny vs Pyro battle was. You always see those guys VS ice guys, rarely same VS same.....
@Yumi_Jay
@Yumi_Jay 3 ай бұрын
I love the part that the deadpool intro with Bye Bye Bye fits so well especially to the exact beat of the song when Deadpool is offing off the TVA. I understand that Chris wasn't in the movie longer, but Deadpool did joke about the budget.
@bullwinkle524
@bullwinkle524 3 ай бұрын
“Only ever gonna be one Blade” Yeah the new Blade movie is cursed….
@bryansnaylor
@bryansnaylor 3 ай бұрын
Nah. Deadpool knows more than us. Wink.
@jcIIXVIIIVII
@jcIIXVIIIVII 3 ай бұрын
This whole movie was a goodbye love letter to the previous non-MCU films...and I loved it.
@lordmorklen5166
@lordmorklen5166 3 ай бұрын
I kinda understand where the oblivious guy #2 was coming from - even I had a hard time believing Johnny Storm got bodied by Pyro and that too so quickly. But then, I work on a theory that in the Deadpool movies your powers scale by how much Deadpool likes you - so characters like Domino, Juggernaut, Colossus and Wolverine are all more accurate to their comics power levels because Deadpool is a fan and he loves them. Whereas guys like Torch and Sabertooth get punked because Wade doesn't give a shit about them.
@cintaminbunny
@cintaminbunny 3 ай бұрын
I understand too but they also have to realize he is a varient. He could be like nicepool who can't regenerate and be a human torch who is weaker.
@AychSkwaird
@AychSkwaird 3 ай бұрын
I really like that Wesley Snipes got to say the “some mothafuckas” line again.
@destructo-pizzatv2263
@destructo-pizzatv2263 3 ай бұрын
Day 216 of telling th3birdman I appreciate his content now I got to skedaddle before I get spoiled
@TheOneAndLonely537
@TheOneAndLonely537 3 ай бұрын
Gotta respect that
@dday906
@dday906 3 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna leave this here: the best cameo in the entire movie was Blade (I'm sorry Gambit), and I really gotta give it to Wesley and Ryan for burying their beef to make this happen. The muthafuckas actually managed to ice skate up hill. No, I'm not sorry.
@harmonlanager2670
@harmonlanager2670 3 ай бұрын
Did they have beef? Was it cause of Blade Trinity?
@abelingaw5070
@abelingaw5070 3 ай бұрын
@@harmonlanager2670 Rumor was they have a The Rock v Vin Diesel disagreement on set.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL 3 ай бұрын
It definitely feels like Wesley is coming back as Blade His Blade is why we have the MCU
@Alanwake-qr7he
@Alanwake-qr7he 3 ай бұрын
I hope Wesley returns as blade for more movies
@bibbidi4616
@bibbidi4616 3 ай бұрын
In an interview Wesley said that they never even had beef to begin with and they’ve been playing that for two decades lol
@digitalutopia1
@digitalutopia1 3 ай бұрын
People tend to overlook that RDJ is an actor actor. He's not like, with all due respect, Ryan Reynolds who basically plays himself in every movie. People who think that Dr Doom is going to be Tony Stark with a new skin, are ignoring the fact that his filmography is full of characters that he not only played, but became. The low-hanging fruit of course was Tropic Thunder, but watch him, in Natural Born Killers, become an Australian reporter, complete with an accent that even Australians think is on point. I loved that film, and even I didn't realize that RDJ played that character, even after watching all the Iron Man/Avengers films.
@nvcomics
@nvcomics 3 ай бұрын
My issue is that they're whitewashing a Romani character AGAIN
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 3 ай бұрын
​@@nvcomicswhitewashing??? Dude romanians are white just like most of europe
@malachisotelo8911
@malachisotelo8911 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@nvcomicsdude. victor is literally white and romani in the comics. shut up.
@ApexGale
@ApexGale 3 ай бұрын
@@digitalutopia1 he's even great at playing charismatic narcissists in more villainous roles, strauss in oppenheimer
@nvcomics
@nvcomics 3 ай бұрын
@@malachisotelo8911then why not get a romani actor? Instead they went for the fan service choice. There's a reason why the biggest interaction people are anticipating ISN'T between Doom and Richards but instead Doom and SPIDER-MAN, a character that doesn't interact with Doom too much
@oziel11132
@oziel11132 3 ай бұрын
Spoiler Tatum as gambit is something i never knew i needed
@jmorgan3977
@jmorgan3977 3 ай бұрын
Had you never heard about the casting back in 2014? Tried to make a Gambit movie a few times over the years.
@poggerwhite
@poggerwhite 3 ай бұрын
Jonathan Majors should be brought back! Doom and Kang have a very complex relationship in the comics, i dont see why we can't have both. Everyone makes it seem like it has to be one or the other
@grantpowell4135
@grantpowell4135 3 ай бұрын
I feal like there gonna bring him back soon tbh
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 ай бұрын
I agree. And with RDJ actually being a great actor, having Jonathan Majors, another phenomenal actor, going toe to toe with him would be excellent for us, the fans!!
@cuetocaffery8804
@cuetocaffery8804 3 ай бұрын
You can hear it in that mans voice just how deeply it hurts him like that man was gonna start crying at any second i hope life gets better for real soon ive felt that kind of pain before and wouldn't wish it upon anyone
@JitteryJackanape
@JitteryJackanape 3 ай бұрын
The shot of Blade aiming the gun at the camera was so awesome. I have also seen it 3 times. Each time they cheered.
@jcIIXVIIIVII
@jcIIXVIIIVII 3 ай бұрын
There is a comic where Iron Man in another universe DOES become Doctor Doom...I can't remember the name of it off hand. But I think that may be the storyline they're going with with casting RDJ as Doom. And I'm right there with you with Majors. That shit is heartbreaking and 100% unfair to him. And I also agree with you about T'Challa. It was far more disrespectful to kill his character off than it would've been to recast. Chadwick would NOT have wanted that. He would've WANTED the character to continue and for another to continue his legacy.
@keithtimes9285
@keithtimes9285 3 ай бұрын
7:44 so from what I heard, she was spoiled in the trailer simply because she wanted to attend the premiere and that would’ve given it away anyways
@JordanBlueman
@JordanBlueman 3 ай бұрын
I mean, not really, lots of vaguely relevant actors show up to things. She could've just been there "to be supportive" of Wolverine
@7grandmac
@7grandmac 3 ай бұрын
I think Jennifer Garner was also at the premiere though
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL 3 ай бұрын
​@@7grandmac Jennifer looking mighty sexy in that outfit
@CheemSawMan
@CheemSawMan 3 ай бұрын
I'm of the opinion that ABILITY-wise yeah RDJ has the chops. Would I have cast him? No. I would have preferred a NEW actor, maybe not even a no-name because he HAS to have good chemistry with Pedro Pascal's Reed and would want someone with comparable star power. Idk, hopefully thr suit will help preserve the immersion cuz RDJ kinda WAS Tony Stark incarnate for 11 years. And the voice. Ugh, I'm more on board than off board like I don't feel BETRAYED like other people seem to be online but I'm raising an eyebrow. Hope the suit and story can heal this PR.
@dastvan8002
@dastvan8002 3 ай бұрын
I for one am going to remain cautiously optimistic regarding Doctor Doom
@Yesthatsmyfirstname
@Yesthatsmyfirstname 3 ай бұрын
I do miss when the MCU cast no name and has been actors. I think that was actually a vital part of their success that gets overlooked and part of why they're struggling now.
@artin.sodaei
@artin.sodaei 3 ай бұрын
you are one of the only youtubers that I always agree with
@s0litaire2k
@s0litaire2k 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully the RDJ as "Dr Doom" is a "Trust the Process" thing, also I'd not be surprised in few months JM quietly gets cast with the usual NDA to reprise the role of Kang in Doomsday (might not be in huge roll in this movie but more like a "Disney testing the waters" sort of thing).
@Yesthatsmyfirstname
@Yesthatsmyfirstname 3 ай бұрын
I really hope this, both for JM as a person and Kang. I don't really know how they can just ignore Kang in this situation. It's not like some of the other breadcrumbs they've left that didn't get flushed out, dude had multiple appearances in different tent poles, you can't exactly sweep that under the rug.
@ImYuishi
@ImYuishi 3 ай бұрын
They said in interviews that Kangs story will come to a close in "Doomsday"​@@Yesthatsmyfirstname
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 3 ай бұрын
I agree with Birdman in how this film was a love letter to Fox comic book movies and Channing Tatum was great as Gambit because he can totally pull it off. Laura making her cameo made me soar because I prayed for her to return. Also, I love fan service and agree with your argument in favor of it
@sidtheviciouscritic7292
@sidtheviciouscritic7292 3 ай бұрын
The goat is back
@kaelphoenix5615
@kaelphoenix5615 3 ай бұрын
Katana on the chair goes hard as hell.
@MrWake08
@MrWake08 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate this kind of video birdman, I also would love to see Johnathan Majors back as Kang. I for one think Kang is a great villain and tbh, he’s really the whole reason this whole multiverse saga started. Kang is the perfect character to center a “multiverse arc” around just off his nature alone. A real shame what happened with Johnathan and I hope we see him again as Kang.
@NerdyBernie66
@NerdyBernie66 3 ай бұрын
The thing I loved about Gambit was the goofy costume and hard to understand voice was another meta joke as well. It's a reference to the fact that the character and movie for that character were unfinished. That's part of why he was like that in the void.
@Lemminboy7
@Lemminboy7 3 ай бұрын
I thought it was just a reference to him being from Louisiana
@agbad5055
@agbad5055 3 ай бұрын
Excuse you, Elektra was fanservice for me in specific.
@grantpowell4135
@grantpowell4135 3 ай бұрын
Actually she was for me lol
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 ай бұрын
For me, too!!! I cheered and screamed, "Oh my God, it's Elektra!!!!"
@kiki18j2
@kiki18j2 3 ай бұрын
When Chris said ‘flame on’ then turned into the human torch I died laughing because, obviously, I thought he was going to be Cap. There was even an old Captain America shield in the first tracking shot of that scene. I loved the Electra and Blade cameos, I knew Gambit by sight but I didn’t know his name right away, I remembered when he said it. Sadly I never watched the X-men cartoons when I was younger. Something I will endeavor to do. I have watched all the movies though.
@ShadwRavn
@ShadwRavn 3 ай бұрын
I personally loved Kang, such a interesting character. So much potential
@OmnicidalClown1992
@OmnicidalClown1992 3 ай бұрын
Deadpool & Wolverine is one of two movies thst I wanted to see this year, the other being Joker 2. And I gotta say, I don't think I've ever laughed as hard as I did when I saw this movie. I was grinning and laughing at nearly every moment. I especially loved the scenes where Wolverine and Deadpool try to kill each other, and the scene where Wolverine and Deadpool teamed up to fight those Deadpool variations. That scene where a group of Deadpools trying to push Wolverine away, while Wolverine is pushing and stabbing them back, with the help from Deadpool, became stuck in my head.
@nightmarehunter8681
@nightmarehunter8681 3 ай бұрын
Saw deadpool and wolverine at an early screening on thursday, really enjoyed the movie and the cameos. Loved how it was a form of clousure and a love letter to those old fox/marvel movies, it was sweet. Ryan and Hugh gave great perfomances. As for the whole recasting thing and the tmz interveiw with majors, I do feel bad for him, like even in the interveiw you can tell how,,, upset he is, I think marvel,, more so disney really dropped the ball/ made the decision to cut majors loose way too early, cause ok sure lets say it turned out he was guility,, thats when you cut strings with him, not when the acusation was made, And like with the thing of other actors having a less colorful light ( rdj) and him being back,,, i definatly think disney screwed majors over, his work in Loki and antman 3 were really good. And on the whole thing of recasting,, I just wish disney/marvel picked a leg to stand on,,, actually made a stance cause right now they are flip flopping with not recasting black panther but they recast thunderbolt ross like,,, i wish there was more consistansticy with it
@edima
@edima 3 ай бұрын
lmao im right there with you, i was like "why doesnt blade have his signature silver sword? his sword was so dope in his movies"
@Harvester4509
@Harvester4509 3 ай бұрын
The jokes about Gambit’s creole accent were hilarious. The sling blade reference went way over everyone’s head in my theatre. He was blowing people apart in the final fight montage too. F-ing loved it
@therosethatbloomed
@therosethatbloomed 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you 100% on the whole Jonathan Majors part word for word seeing him as He Who Remains for the first time sold me on Kang as a big villain and he also sold me on the Creed movie
@DarthWinterMadness
@DarthWinterMadness 3 ай бұрын
So about the cameos: Starting with Blade, my jaw dropped on the floor when he arrived. That was crazy, I expected Fox characters to pop-up but he's not one of them. He's from New Line Cinema. I do agree with you that he should've wielded his classic sword. I don't see it as a katana since it's double edged, straight and symmetrical even though it has the witdth of a katana. When I saw Chris Evans, I assumed he was playing Johnny Storm from the start. And I loved it. I wish he stuck around too, it would've been great. As I said I expected Fox characters to appear since we already saw a lot of them in the trailers. That's also why I recognized Elektra's signature weapons before seeing her. It made sense. Seeing her made me happy too, not as much as Wesley though. Yes her solo movie was really bad, but I still love the Affleck Daredevil movie. It's been the case since I saw it in the theater back then, and the Director's Cut being release since also made it better. Anyways, back to Blade for one last thing: I didn't think they would do it since it would've been a bit too much on the nose and if done wrong, but hearing "There are still motherf***ers trying to ice-skate uphill" before we leave the void was amazing! I wanted to have more Blade, but we're not watching a Blade movie, so I let it go. I wasn't too hot about Blade being played by someone else, then warmed up to it after I saw Snipes gave his blessing and passed the torch to Ali. And before all the recent delays and changes behind the scenes, I was looking forward to see his take on the character. Now, not so much. Especially after seeing the OG back and he still got it. He's not young anymore, but still probably has more mobility than younger actors when it comes to action and fight scenes. I'm not kidding myself, even if he comes back, how many action movies does he have still in him? It makes sense to recast him, and as long as the script is good, I'll be there. A bad script would only hurt Snipes or any other character's legacy whoever plays them. Sorry I went on this tangent, it had to come out. All that to say who's behind the camera matters as much as who's in front of it. Cheers from France! 🍻
@ImDefinitelyDarren
@ImDefinitelyDarren 3 ай бұрын
I hope to one day just sit for a while and bounce thoughts like this back and forth with you because I always find myself talking to the video 😂
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 3 ай бұрын
I do the same thing with his videos!! 😆 🤣 😂
@Libbawittz
@Libbawittz 3 ай бұрын
The cameos were appreciated tho I had seen rumors about them leading up to the first trailer. Didn't ruin my hype tho by any means. My favorite moment is when Logan shreds Wade apart with that emotional speech in the van and then all Deadpool says is, "I'm gonna fight you now". I didn't expect that and it felt so authentic lol. Loved seeing blade. Before Ali had been casted, I was of the opinion of having Wesley come back and pass the mantle onto his daughter from the comics. Gambit works in this movie and I am happy Channing got his moment but it definitely didn't make me a full on project, sadly. The kills in this movie gave me mortal kombat vibes and that is not a complaint.
@TheNimanator
@TheNimanator 3 ай бұрын
With regards to T’Challa and Ross, I absolutely agree that one shouldn’t have been something of a “too sacred to be recast” but not the other situation, but I’m also of two minds in that I appreciate that Disney respected Ryan Coogler’s wishes not to recast the character. I personally feel they told a brilliant story with Black Panther WF and paid a ton of homage to both the T’Challa character and Chadwick Boseman. Setting up a next of kin to become the next T’Challa I think was a very warm way to go about it, but yeah with the advent of the multiverse shenanigans it’s in a very confusing spot right now. My best guess is this stuff with RDJ as Doom is simply them ‘washing their hands’ of this “low” point the MCU now has a reputation for and drumming up excitement with new announcements like these to get the general populace to forget said low point. Money talks and hype drives the money, sadly
@silver_phoenix_rising2553
@silver_phoenix_rising2553 Ай бұрын
I just discovered your channel a couple of days ago when the YT algorithm suggested your pokng at Cinema Sins Vids (Those are nicely done by the way 😉 )... I love talkin' shop when it comes to the Marvel movies. I've been a True Believer since i was 5 when my nerdy, older brother let me read his comic collection to keep me out of his hair (It's a fair point, i was annoying 😜) I LOVED Deadpool & Wolverine! 😁 That movie made me sooooo happy. It was hilarious, it was thoughtful, and it down right kicked all sorts of ass... just get them all in a line and kick them! It was THAT awesome 😁 Now i wanna get to the juicy bits of your vid here... you said RDJ kicked off the MCU with that first Iron Man movie... i disagree. X-Men paved the road first (with some help from Toby's Spider-Man and Blade I+2)... that led to us getting Avengers by 2012 because Hollywood seen how profitable a comic book movie could be when done right... and that means paying the fan service 😉 Don't get me wrong, I loved RDJ playing Tony Stark even though I am a Forever Team Cap 😉... but i really DO NOT LIKE that he is coming back to play Dr. Doom. Honestly, I wanted Adam Driver or Keanu Reeves to play Doom. I feel having RDJ in that role isn't going to have the impact they want or expect. I would've preferred RDJ reprising the role of Tony if they'd do a proper story for Riri Williams/Iron Heart where she acquires a Jarvis-version AI of Tony Stark and showcases her intelligence and determination to becoming Iron Man's successor.... In the comics, Riri did have an AI Tony aiding her. He also served as her mentor and foil to some extent. I would like to see that relationship/character development for Riri in that the AI Tony does aid her, but he is still only an AI... and throwing in a multi-verse variant of Stark for Riri to get the interaction with the Real Tony Stark could be interesting. Maybe he doesn't trust her at first, and after doing some proving herself work through the use of her smarts and grit, Variant Tony gets on-board. I don't know, maybe that's a terrible idea... but I wanna see more Riri to set up her spot in the Young Avengers and i honestly thought that would be a better way to bring RDJ back into the MCU without casting him as a major cornerstone Marvel Villian. And, yes, Jonathan Majors got fucked out of his role. I'm not defending what he did, but I don't think we need to be a 'One Strike and You're Gone FOREVER' Society. He has displayed remorse for what happened... and i really want an ending to the entire Kang Dynasty set-up. I CAN'T STAND loose ends! Seriously, did the Loki Who Sits at the Center destroy ALL Kangs in every universe or alter events so that none of them become a threat? That's the ONLY plot move i could conceive that makes ANY sense... otherwise, it's a major plot hole that needs some major explaining moving forward. That's my rant for the day. Great channel. I'm definitely subbing, Sir 😉
@loganobrien7333
@loganobrien7333 3 ай бұрын
If there's one thing I getting annoyed of seeing as of late is these memes people are making about "Hugh Jackman getting ready to carry the MCU" Or there's screenshot of Logan and Tony's respective deaths and the quote is "These amazing sacrifices mean absolutely nothing now" Like, seriously guys, it's the MCU. LET THEM COOK Love the video Birdman! Keep up the awesome work.
@Jackthemack656
@Jackthemack656 3 ай бұрын
I was fulling expecting them to just recast Kang and say the new actor was a variant of him and instead it seems like the whole thing was thrown in the garbage in exchange for bringing RDJ…to play a variant of Doom…
@threex0xthree
@threex0xthree 3 ай бұрын
8:11 I am with you on fanservice not being a bad thing. For me, however, it can sometimes feels like a distractionary tactic. Call me cynical, but sometimes I have that feeling that fanservice (and i want to stress out this by saying "if done badly") blinds some people to think that said nostalgia bait thing will overlook some bad (ie. The "Illuminati" from MoM) to downright lame stuff (ie. RDJ becoming Dr. Doom replacing Jonathan Majors as Kang the Conqueror because of his recent issues with his ex and all that). Of course i am taking the latter over some real-life controversy that had transpired, but I hope you get what I am trying to say.
@disturbingsteve
@disturbingsteve 3 ай бұрын
I 100% agree I think majors should come back. He was fantastic in the Loki series. My first thought with RDJ is that could’ve been someone new having a chance to play a big role but who knows if it’s a variant that’s fine I guess.
@ApexGale
@ApexGale 3 ай бұрын
i felt the entire "anchor being" lent a lot of credence to the whole meta narrative aspect you mentioned. like, think about it. which character propped up the Fox Marvel Universe for so long? Who was it that always got people in theaters? It was always Wolverine. His existence, aka Jackman's involvement in the franchise, kept them making movies because they'd always pay out. With Wolverine dead (Jackman retiring from the role), the timeline started "dying" (so no more Fox universe movies). Deadpool saves his timeline by reviving Wolverine (Ryan Reynolds convinces Hugh Jackman to pick up the role again and explore a different arc for him). What I'm hoping is that they allow for this Wolverine to play more of a mentor role. I love Jackman's performance, but he's starting to get up there and I feel like they've earned a torch passing moment by having X-23 take the spotlight. Maybe Wolverine can be the Charles Xavier for the New Mutants in that world.
@christ-abel8774
@christ-abel8774 3 ай бұрын
I agree with you on all the subjects raised here. Deadpool & Wolverine is GREAT. And seeing Channing Tatum as Gambit, the return of Hugh Jackman and Wesley Snipes... Oh my GOD!! I almost came 😁 And the thing about RDJ's return as Doom? Yeah i git confused too, but I get it. And now the only thing i hope is for Avengers: Doomsday to be a hit. As fir Jonathan Majors, one word: UNFAIR. It's painfully obvious he isn't the culprit or the bad guy" in this situation, that girl was crazy and abusive, and tried to flip the whole situation on him... But he doesn't get a chance as Kang because of that? When EZRA FUCKING MILLER gets to keep his roles as Credence and Flash despite... "Stuff-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named"?? Un fair I tell you. But anyway... I keep hoping things will get brighter for Majors in the future, even if he doesn't come back in the MCU. Thanks Birdman for this video, and I love this format. The wife says hi!
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 3 ай бұрын
I agree with this whole video. It makes me happy you made it for fan service
@Alphabetical-Soup
@Alphabetical-Soup 3 ай бұрын
This may not turn out the same but reminds me of the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard situation
@Droidsbane
@Droidsbane 3 ай бұрын
honestly that video involving Majors that you showed seemed... I dunno... like it was trying to spin it a certain way, like she was trying to make RDJ the bad guy just because he got the role for Doom and comparing RDJ's mistakes that he made *Before* he became Iron Man to Miller's criminal activities *during* their time as the Flash. RDJ managed to turn his life around before he became Iron Man. Miller, as far as I know (And if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me because I don't know what they're like now), was an psycho during Fantastic Beasts and the Synder-verse. The two have NOTHING in common
@LabrnMystic
@LabrnMystic 3 ай бұрын
People who complain about fan service, aren't fans.
@shyguy5473
@shyguy5473 3 ай бұрын
I kind of wish we got to see Wolverine vs. Hulk in the movie. The movie had the perfect opportunity for it.
@eddyviews1427
@eddyviews1427 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully in Secret Wars and they better have a full segment
@MyRottinSold1er
@MyRottinSold1er 3 ай бұрын
It’s also weird how marvel was adamant about not recasting Chadwick’s role but when William Hurt passed away they LEAPT at the chance to recast a generally more well known name in the industry, Harrison Ford. Seems precarious.
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 3 ай бұрын
I followed the Majors situation pretty thoroughly and one of my big takeaways from it was that by all accounts, Mr. Majors was actively trying to get away from a situation in which the woman was aggressively harming him and egging him on. It came as a genuine shock to me that he was actually found guilty.
@Th3Birdman
@Th3Birdman 3 ай бұрын
That's the thing: he was found guilty of Third Degree Assault, which basically means he was "scary and intimidating" during the taxi event. Him putting her back in the car is what they found him guilty of, not domestic abuse, which they found him not guilty. I put that information on the screen in this video. Problem is, people don't care WHAT they found him guilty of, only that he was found guilty of something, with people going so far as to call him a "woman beater". This overreaction is likely what happened within Disney, where they decided to can him before the trial was over and the documents came out. Terrible situation to be in.
@EmrysMerlin8807
@EmrysMerlin8807 3 ай бұрын
@@Th3Birdman I think it's fairly safe to say that Disney likely had planned to have him outed as soon as the verdict came back if it came back in any way negatively, and that's exactly what happened. Then the public used that outing to full on crucify him. It pisses me off that we lost one of, in my opinion, the greatest potential stars of the generation because of this.
@MazeDaGr8
@MazeDaGr8 3 ай бұрын
​@@EmrysMerlin8807you are correct but unfortunately for Jonathan Majors we live in a time where people believe that accusations automatically mean guilty and if you screw up one time that's it and that's just wrong
@vkiran3576
@vkiran3576 3 ай бұрын
Many Hollywood actors have been accused of things before and will be in the future. If Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp can overcome them and still get work why can't Majors. And he looks so heartbroken. The MCU needs actors like him who actually love the characters. I really hope they bring him back as Kang.
@Jack-qs6gh
@Jack-qs6gh 3 ай бұрын
I LOVED how Ryan and the team made it perfectly clear that they will not ruin the events that happened in Logan. And they celebrated how good it is!!
@pyronuke4768
@pyronuke4768 3 ай бұрын
I feel like there's a right way and a wrong way to do fan service. If It's just there as 'member-berries tossed in to get butts in seats, you're doing it all wrong. If there's no narrative reason for it to be there, like you could replace them with background character #27 and it wouldn't change much, that's just sloppy writing. The problem with these online critics is some of them can't tell the difference between fan service and nostalgia bait.
@mrcheesemunch
@mrcheesemunch 3 ай бұрын
Seeing a lot of people saying that RDJ coming back "Ruins" Iron Mans death I know Disney hasn't exactly established the multiverse all that well quite yet but...come on? It's obviously not the main universe Tony, you know, the one that fucking died? I haven't seen the new Deadpool movie but given that Wolverine isn't an old ass man I feel confident in assuming it's not the exact same Logan from the Fox continuity Is this all really that hard to understand?
@carIitoast
@carIitoast 3 ай бұрын
robert’s career was haulted for a few years after his whole debacle but was overall forgiven mainly bc addiction is something that everybody can be sympathetic to. as for ezra i really don’t foresee that happening. the flash is probably the last big thing they are ever going to apart of.
@DiamondBatToons
@DiamondBatToons 3 ай бұрын
So glad you did this video, I've been dying to hear your full thoughts on the film, as well as the RDJ as Dr. Doom stuff. I'm really hoping this Doom is just a variant. But when it comes to the whole recasting debacle, I just don't get Marvel's logic.
@marcusflowers8696
@marcusflowers8696 3 ай бұрын
Bro i felt the same way about the recasting like once i saw harrison Ford taking over it made me realize it was never about respecting Chadwick
@SlagNasty
@SlagNasty 3 ай бұрын
They rode his corpse for every last penny.
@Onyxiate
@Onyxiate 3 ай бұрын
What was it about then?
@Andrew-be6eh
@Andrew-be6eh 3 ай бұрын
Woot! I was hoping this would exist.
@marcusflowers8696
@marcusflowers8696 3 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing ab the trailers but Disney let Daphne be in a trailer so she could attend the premiere along side Hugh
@ryder19
@ryder19 3 ай бұрын
Apologies for the rambling, i typed this with no real structure in mind. I agree with all your points, the Jonathan Majors thing.. i hope like RDJ in time gets another chance to shine in a big production because like you said, he is a phenomenal actor. In my opinion he deserves to be in big blockbuster movies. Im a big Iron Man fan since the cartoon days, RDJ brought Tony to life, like Jonathan Majors brought Kang to life. As for your recast opinion, Terrance Howard got recast in Iron Man 2, William Hurt got recast, hell some actors play multiple roles, for instance the lead actress in the Eternals also played in Captain Marvel.. with that being said, even if they wanted to move away from Kang, they could have recast Jonathan Majors into a different role. As for RDJ as Dr. Doom, i see that as desperation by Marvel. Most movies that came out after Endgame haven't matched Endgame as far as entertainment value goes. There have been a few gems in my opinion, such as Spider-Man No Way Home, Shang-Chi, Guardians 3, Dr. Strange MoM, DP3 but other than those there have been plenty missers too, not because it didn't match Endgame but because they were just bad or terrible (Love and Thunder) and now with Dr. Doom they are like "we need something to work, the multiverse saga is falling apart... ahh break open glass RDJ in case of such an emergency". Honestly i would have liked for Chris Evans and RDJ to never come back to give their respective characters a sort of finality (if that's a word). Marvel needs to build up new characters that can carry the franchise and not rely on characters or actors from the past to give them a get out of jail free pass like they are doing now.
@OmegaBlackHeart
@OmegaBlackHeart 3 ай бұрын
B-Man, I am glad I'm not the only one feeling the tepid reaction for RDJ coming as Dr. Doom as well as them throwing out Kang seemingly. I share the sentiment that I hope it IS Victor von Doom and not Tony Stark who just had a bad day. I've seen some reports that say it is indeed Victor von Doom but you know how early buzz like that can change or mask what's beneath the surface (like how Andrew Garfield lied about his involvement in No Way Home). Dr. Doom is one of the greatest and most complex "villains" in all of comics and I hope he isn't relegated to only that film he was announced for and Secret Wars. To that point, I wonder why not cast someone else. RDJ is fantastic but he's not getting any younger. For a character as important as Dr. Doom, he'd be great for multiple film appearances. As for Johnathan Majors, super unfortunate that his time in the MCU was cut short, but I also share the idea of just recasting the actor. There were so many options and other great people who could have portrayed Kang that recasting was even easier here than a situation like Chadwick's unfortunate passing. I hope we get to see some kind of closure or resolution to the whole Council of Kangs. Finally, I'm super glad to hear that the Russo's are back to direct both Avengers films so I'm willing to wait and see what they cook up for us.
@FitzyyLives
@FitzyyLives 3 ай бұрын
I want the kang story to continue. With or without majors, i think the story would be incredible to watch unfold.
@Loch1210
@Loch1210 3 ай бұрын
It’s the best in the west, Mr. terrific from the Pacific. Ya heard man,getting cash money but not than Birdman
@PvtPuls3
@PvtPuls3 3 ай бұрын
One thing I keep seeing is "if he's actually Victor Von Doom." The Russos announced him as Victor Von Doom, which could change, but for now, I think it's safe to say he's not exactly Tony Stark
@Leezy24
@Leezy24 3 ай бұрын
Forgive any poor grammar or punctuation, this is a cross faded rant 😭. So the Johnathan Majors thing has always been tricky, at least for me. Because I won’t say he’s a woman beater, but at most he’s like really manipulative, maybe emotionally abusive(?). Like the video of them in the house and being mad at her coming home late, that can be explained away. What really left a bad taste in my mouth were the messages. He basically says “if you leave or tell on me me I’ll hurt myself.” Something along those lines. I think that’s really what sealed his fate for his career. That really can’t be explained away like other things from his case. While I will say it’s not completely fair for RDJ and Ezra to get second chances and he doesn’t, but their second chances came at a cost. RDJ was under a lot of strict conditions for him to even film Iron Man. Like one wrong move and he’s out type strict. I don’t follow Ezra or DC, so don’t take my words to heart on this (or anything tbh), but I’m pretty sure that was his last major role as the flash. Like the only reason they went through with finishing, releasing, and press touring is because they would lose out on too much money to scrap it. At the end of the day Majors is a great actor, idk about him being a great guy though. I personally think both of them were toxic in the relationship but he ended up taking it a step too far. Whether we like him or not, whether we believe him or not, he was found guilty of a misdemeanor, third-degree assault, and second-degree harassment. Clearly the court saw something we didn’t. I hope they don’t get rid of Kang all together though. I personally think LaKeith Stanfield would be an amazing replacement choice.
@cinemaghost3149
@cinemaghost3149 3 ай бұрын
Love the breakdown, but you and I both know why hersh is running into problems, as well as Johnathan and Chadwick. Racism disregards logic which is why there's so many incongruities to the MCU surrounding the contiunation of leading black characters . Their focus groups for the making the most money are with people that do not look like us, so any reason they have to not give us a proper platform will be the first thing they do. It's been apparent since Chadwick's death and it's only becoming clearer as the years go by. Keep up the great work my guy.
@nickcarwell912
@nickcarwell912 3 ай бұрын
Gambit speaks like a Cajun from Louisiana
@ICANTSWIM299
@ICANTSWIM299 3 ай бұрын
I love how Wolverine was more animalistic
@racdude01
@racdude01 3 ай бұрын
The only time fan service is a problem is when it’s done poorly or gratuitously and is only done to prop up what is otherwise a not great movie. But as long as it serves the story and makes the movie even better fan service is great. And No way home and Deadpool definitely do it well especially Deadpool
@racdude01
@racdude01 3 ай бұрын
The other issue is that on repeated viewings the fan service kinda loses its appeal because you know it’s coming. That’s kinda the issue with no way home I don’t think repeated viewings will hold up as well. But I think Deadpool and Wolverine did such a good job that it will still be great over and over again. I know could rewatch Gambit and Blade plenty more times
@oziel11132
@oziel11132 3 ай бұрын
"SHOW ME THE BEWBSSSSS"- Birdman 2024
@saintfisuto1072
@saintfisuto1072 3 ай бұрын
I didn't really think about the timeline issue until I got home from the cinema. And then I thought. Well their is a TVA office in Deadpool's home town, and the X-Men don't seem to age despite decades passing. Maybe Deadpool's universe operates under a sliding timescale.
@atanaskirov8137
@atanaskirov8137 3 ай бұрын
You could say D&W's Gambit was a big Step Up from 2009's version of the character.
@blackngrey4real
@blackngrey4real 3 ай бұрын
I feel JM is gonna come back. It may be because of RDJ. Also, people need to stop saying that RDJ is getting multiple chances when he’s served his time over 20 years ago and has way more acting credits than JM. I think that reporter wanted him to say something he couldn’t come back from.
@grantpowell4135
@grantpowell4135 3 ай бұрын
Im literally seeing it with my wife today at 2:30 pm. I purposefully avoided any spoilers so ima leave a comment then come finish the video later. As always thank you neighborhood Th3Birdman. Ps. Its my bday today and im 35 so maybe idk a blade 2 video ? Lol 🤟🤞
@threex0xthree
@threex0xthree 3 ай бұрын
I loved it when Wolverine flat out called Deadpool out on his shit. The first fight scene kinda was a tad forced. That 2nd fight scene to me felt more earned because by then both he and Deadpool flat out had established tension to go by in that movie and that it started getting personal from there.
@keithatwater033
@keithatwater033 3 ай бұрын
JM was an awesome Kang and all the characters he played! It sucks they got rid of him and the whole Kang sh!t. It too bad
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 3 ай бұрын
fanservice at the cost of substance can be bad (for example: Star Trek: Picard is entirely banking on being Picard fanservice and doesn't really offer anything new or interesting like a Star Trek series should). but I think the fanservice in this move (and all the deadpool movies) enhances the substance of the film, especially this one. cause like it's the X-Force joke but an inversion of it, instead of jamming a bunch of characters in and killing them for a laugh to make fun of big team up movies it's them placing a bunch of characters fans know into a spot where new characters could never receive a proper introduction and then killing them off for real meaning.
@daydragoon331
@daydragoon331 3 ай бұрын
It is downright evil how Ezra Miller was kept on WB’s payroll but Majors was instantly dropped the second shit hit the fan
@zacharydemko1800
@zacharydemko1800 3 ай бұрын
1:54 I hope they do this with James Gunns DC because that would be so dope
@IchiGurou
@IchiGurou 3 ай бұрын
8:10 I'm not particularly privy to analyzing/watching movies and dissecting how they work/don't work, but seriously fanservice is like the one thing I've felt lacking in recent media. Like they'd go for the "cheap" meta humor and think that's fanservice when in reality fanservice is seeing Jackman in the absolute comic-fucking-accurate costume and seeing Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire be crucial to Tom Holland's Spiderman.
@DarthWinterMadness
@DarthWinterMadness 3 ай бұрын
Like you I don't know all the facts, but I do think Johnathan Majors had been done dirty by Disney. I didn't know who he was until the first season of Loki, and I think I've only seen him in Marvel movies. Victor Timely was an interesting character and I loved how he portrayed the character. (I started writing before the end of the video, you just mentioned Ezra Miller. It kind of shows how inconsistent Hollywood is when it comes to these kind of events. And I believe T'Challa should've been recast. They should've kept his story going. It's okay to recast Ross but not T'Challa? Why? I wanna know why.) Back to Majors, and it rejoins what you were saying about Channing Tatum and Gambit. You can see he's pationate about Kang. He didn't have to accept to do the interview in the first place. He could've just ignored them or hid from them. If he was such a bad and violent person, wouldn't he be more aggressive and told them to f*** off? Sure even an impulsive and violent person could pretend to be nice for a moment, it doesn't seem to be that here. Majors looks like a dude who lost maybe the biggest opportunity of his life and is heartbroken about it. Not mad, not pissed, just heartbroken. Like Johnny Depp, he was thrown under the bus before all the information was out instead of waiting before making such an important decision. Yet Miller is given chance after chance despite the overwhelming amount of evidence of him having (and for Hollywood being) a problem. I'll end there on this subject, I'll post a second comment for the Deadpool & Wolverine topic. Cheers from France! 🍻
@corypowercat7277
@corypowercat7277 3 ай бұрын
Wesley Snipes IS BLADE. I was a toddler when I watched those films. I also liked the Ultraviolent movie, I grew up with it so even with the flaws I adored it.
@pesterian41
@pesterian41 3 ай бұрын
X like in X minutes? My goat eating good fr
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb
@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb 3 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to get this movie on Blu-ray
@eddyviews1427
@eddyviews1427 3 ай бұрын
Anyone view fan service as a bad thing, it’s probably the viewpoint with a couple factors such as nostalgia or cast fan favorites and seems as excuse to appease audiences. I feel bad for Mr. Majors having Kang dropped out because it’s a character with such range of personalities he can challenge himself and loves performing them. As we can welcome RDJ’s return for Dr.Doom, I still wonder is there a chance for Kang’s return.
@StaceyGreenstein
@StaceyGreenstein 3 ай бұрын
6:08 It was supposed to look a little goofy as Channing Tatum's Gambit never actually made it onto the screen, only to storyboard and initial mock ups... so his whole existence was in the Void having come from never getting fully realized in his own movie. That's also the whole point about "Maybe I was born here" and some of his other lines in this movie. All of which I appreciate very much!
@Jazz-on
@Jazz-on 3 ай бұрын
I don’t watch trailers anymore cuz they WILL spoil sumn, I was surprised at everything , it was awesome !
@ThatGuyGloomy
@ThatGuyGloomy 3 ай бұрын
Man that video of Majors is acctually really sad. I hope they atleast wrap up the whole Kang thing.
@OfficialTaylormade1
@OfficialTaylormade1 3 ай бұрын
lol yea I was wondering where Blade’s katana was at.. still freaking awesome to see all these characters!!
@cosmo8720
@cosmo8720 3 ай бұрын
Watching this video now after finishing Deadpool & Wolverine, and gotta say, I agree with the topic you brought up about the future of the Multiverse Saga, and it’s a shame having Jonathan Majors getting this awful treatment, and seeing with the Black Panther not getting a recast I can totally see the pattern here. Let’s just hope the plan b can be good…
@pistolz21
@pistolz21 3 ай бұрын
Watching almost all the 20th fox and Warner bros blade when I was a little kid, the movie actually hit 10x more harder I won’t lie at first when I saw channing tatum I raised my eye brow a little but the accent sold it for me. One of the best superheroes movies out Fosho.
@rudyproductions4557
@rudyproductions4557 3 ай бұрын
As someone who loves fan service: the bad thing about it is that it’s “easy”. I’ve seen too often where a piece of media devolves into “look at all these things you remember”. That said, D&W works the fan service in well and I’ve seen people who typically do complain about fan service, praise this movie for how well it pulls it off. The problem is that the Hate Goblins, who don’t have any media literacy and just parrot their favorite critics, only understand “fan service bad”. It’s not, it’s just an easy crutch for a bad writer. But when GOOD writers use fan service… oh BOY are we in for one HELL of a ride!
@S-Mania
@S-Mania 3 ай бұрын
I also don't get why people are calling this and NWH solely fan-service movies. Not only for the reasons you said, but people complain casuals and newbies can't enjoy or understand the films when they 100% can. Even if they can't, why is that a bad thing? Theres millions of films out there, not every film needs to cater to them. These films are a love letter to the older beloved movies and those fans. Nuff said.
@pokechatter
@pokechatter 3 ай бұрын
I’d say fan service is good as an additional things to an already solid narrative and presentation of a piece of of media, but shouldn’t be the sole selling point of a film/show/comic/etc.
@MisssKayy
@MisssKayy 3 ай бұрын
I also liked CT’s Gambit. It was very good.
@PvtPuls3
@PvtPuls3 3 ай бұрын
I've seen a lot of backlash towards RDJ for taking Doom. I don't think he deserves any hate for taking a role a company approaches him for. That's not on him imo
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