Dean Park Station Video 108 - February 2017 Update 1

[@kevblue8043]

May i say, you are without doubt the king of retaining walls and tunnel mouths!The amount of time and effort you put into them is astounding and it really shows too.

[@robmasterman]

It's fascinating as always to me Dave, the amount of thought and detail you incorporate in every single part of the layout. You've received plenty of ideas of what could be incorporated in those corner sections, and I'm sure you will give them all careful consideration, before coming to your final decision....Best wishes...Bob

[@tomjenssen7486]

The layout's lloking great. The new section's coming along really well. I might have to get myself one of those ballast spreaders. Keep up the good work....All the best.....Tom

[@Mr.Shiiba]

I must say this is one fantastic railway! The detail you have put into every area is remarkable! Keep up the fantastic work :)

[@DeanPark]

thanks! Glad you think its good ;-) Dave

[@GrahamFoulston]

The layout is looking as fabulous as ever Dave, what a remarkable job you're doing to it, it has come such a long way since I first started following you and it's a real credit to you mate. ..........Graham

[@DeanPark]

Thanks Graham, yes you've been following me for a good while. I appreciated your continued support and comments. I am busting a gut to get this awkward end of the layout sorted....will be glad when I can move on to the TMD! lol. Cheers. Dave

[@GrahamFoulston]

I know the feeling only too well Dave, I should have finished the blessed village area off about a year ago and it's still not done - not far off but still not done!! ...........Graham

[@paulbryson606]

just in the planning stage for a small layout for my grandson your videos have gave me lots of ideas to play with.... fantastic layout keep the videos coming

[@michaelthompson8231]

Hi Dave. I'm just starting out and planning my first layout since I was a young lad. I'm gaining real inspiration from your updates. Love the layout and everything you're doing, it's fantastic. Thanks for sharing with us. Best wishes, Mike.

[@DeanPark]

Hi, Mike, thats really kind of you to say so. Thanks. I am really geniunely glad you're getting some inspiration for your own layout. I only started back in the hobby in 2012 after a lay off of 20+ years, since giving up my 'train set' as a young teenager, so all the skills I have tried to master have been picked up on the go, with a big help from youtube. Its a great resource. All the best and I look forward to seeing your trains in action. Dave

[@sub39h]

The cutting is looking great. I think it'll look fantastic when it's done. For the smoke on the bridge you can use a candle and pass the tip of the flame over the plastic quickly to deposit soot. Just have to be careful you don't melt the plastic! Love the high school idea. Would fit in great in that corner. Looking forward to see that develop! The area over the lower lines will be great. Supermarket would look spot on. Have a look at some of the H0 buildings from Kibri or Vollmer for some kits. Finally congrats on finally getting your Swallow HST! Can't imagine it was cheap!

[@SouthWesternModeller]

I'm new to the hobby and have been watching all your videos over the last 4 weeks. Very inspirational, and if my layout is even half as good as yours then I will be a happy man. Keep up the great work! Jamie

[@davehutton2962]

Hi Dave, I am in constant admiration at the quality of your model-making; it really is superb. Insofar as your triangular 600mm x600mm area is concerned I did have a thought! I worked in TV all my life and have never seen a television transmitter mast and its associated buildings on a model railway. It would fill that corner very well and you could let your imagination run riot on the building of the actual mast with, if course, a flashing red beacon on the top. Anyway, just a thought and good luck with future developments at Dean Park.

[@baboonmcgoon5749]

I would say this is probably (if not definitely) the best and most realistic layout I have ever seen. Very well done with what you have achieved so far.

[@DeanPark]

My goodness, that is high praise, thanks. Glad you rate it as good. Thanks for watching, I will keep posting when I have things to show ;-) Dave

[@baboonmcgoon5749]

Praise where it's due and others comments confirm this.

[@ScottDowneywoundedbear]

Great update. Lots of work to do. For the retaining wall I would go with option 2, bringing the wall forward.

[@edwardbarr1533]

Delighted to see your wonderful work continuing,as ever a pleasure to watch!,,

[@TheAudiostud]

"The True Sign Of A Perfectionist Is To Detail Parts Of The Layout That Cannot Be Seen, Well Done Dave 10/10 Great Work, Well Done!"

[@DeanPark]

I guess you are right lol. Thanks for your comment. Glad you like my perfectionism lol Dave

[@TheAudiostud]

DaveClass47 there's nothing wrong with being one either, wish more people took as much effort as you do a bud!

[@Castlebridge-00]

A great video again. For the tunnel entrance, option 1, but with the tunnel angle not so sharp. For the 600 x 600 triangle, a forest area but with a section having been felled with lots of tree stumps showing and the odd deer just visible, or field with a national grid power structure (cant think what they are called). As for the section near the level crossing, surely a distillery that will give scope for many buildings and loading and road ways etc. I hear that the Black Dean distillery makes a mean blend. Looking forward to the final choice. Barry. Devon.

[@jackbrown2830]

Brilliant update Dave you have been working hard well done

[@grayman999]

How about a dairy for that corner Dave and option two for the tunnel ,for the new covered area a builders merchants perhaps and love the new cutting very atmospheric your wise to keep the Lima Scot Rail stock history in the making ! The railway is a credit to you and superb as ever best wishes from East Yorkshire 👍

[@gosportjunction4240]

For that back corner, could you do a country pub where customers can watch the trains passing by from a beer garden? Great video!

[@Pixie586]

Great update as always, for your vacant corner, have you considered having a ruin or folly overlooking the railway and maybe a footpaths? Hope it helps.

[@lner3777]

Your layout is coming on really well . The attention to detail is excellent I really don't know how you do it . Your layout has come along way since I started watching and I can't wait to see it finished. Keep up the good work LNER 377

[@DeanPark]

Hi, thanks, it has come a long way, really enjoyable to see it grow. "Finished"?....lol.....come back in 2025! ;-)

[@lner3777]

DaveClass47 ha ha lol

[@johncarvil498]

Thanks for the update Dave, so much going on and all looking good. The wall would look better with option 2, it would give it more depth. Cheers John.

[@fotofaced]

hi... as watch you going to the corner shot you mentioned having tree's and bushes on the back, my immediate thought was the rear garden of the '' ye old pub '' with swings and seating and a view point to the railway. plus a disused. mining tunnel entrance now gated at the bottom of the hill side .

[@DeanPark]

hi....i am moving towards a new housing development, with couple of houses under construction, indicating the edge of a larger new "out of town" housing estate. thats my thoughts...this week lol. Dave

[@ChrisHamblypopsidelad]

Decent update Dave. Just an idea I suppose, how about an abandoned station/platform with the new raised section at 14:20(ish)?? Just a thought. Keep up the good work mate.

[@thebritfarmer]

For that corner how about a stately home/manor house or a castle/castle ruins? You could add visitors maybe some deer grazing in the stately home grounds. That was a brief glimpse and thankfully no briefs in site LOL Cheers Scott

[@sheldontaylor82]

A few random ideas for your unused spaces.... A church & graveyard? A farm or field with a hay barn, cattle or horses, and farmer on tractor working? A historical building (castle, disused pill box surrounded by overgrown foliage)? A small airfield? A bit random I know, but just trying to suggest something you might not have thought of lol!!!

[@daviemaclean61]

Another great update. I'm encouraged by the fact it's February update 1! Liking the school idea for that corner - a bit different from the ubiquitous commercial units or industrial estate and "real world" access (could I suggest) can be off scene, ie you don't have to cram another road in. As for the other, currently vacant, corner, how about a village that hasn't yet been swallowed up by the nearby city? As always, look forward to your updates. Cheers.

[@DeanPark]

hi....glad you like the school idea....it came to me suddenly last week, out of the blue! I thought, now there is a way to cover an awkward shaped space....as schools tend to sprawl out with different buildings etc. Village thing sounds like a feasable plan. Lots to do before that corner is filled. Dave

[@TTT-pc5zt]

What about a water tower for that corner by the new tunnel if it is going to be slightly higher the the surrounding area. It gives you some options, modern concrete structude or brick built older structure and they are often near but outside urban areas on high ground. Also, not really seen many on layouts. Just an idea :)

[@Bruno.Trains]

Incredible film. love it

[@AstraGTE1991]

Hi Dave, layout looking excellent as always. Ever thought about some rail served industry? Such as cement works or colliery ect. They fill a space quite well. You wouldnt have to model the whole site, Just the rail loader and associated buildings maybe?

[@WoodyWood]

I do like the way you work and plan your layout not something I can do. On the section that you asked about the 600mm x 600mm how about a canal and lock or just tow path? Don't know if you have seen my layout but I would love to hear what you think about it

[@IamRobotMonkey]

I tell you what you rarely see in model railways which might be nice in the corner - a castle!

[@sparky107107]

your corner at 11 minutes, I know I am way out in left field here, but what if that area was a mountain, large hill, water fall, down to a pond, small river that flows off scene, will let the tree back drop to be used. you have lots of brick walls, just thinking you need ROCKS/ rough look. I have a ballast spreader just like that one, maybe I am using it wrong, but I don't find it leaves enough rock on the sides. can you show how you use yours plz. thanks for sharing, great layout, love watching your progress

[@DeanPark]

You have sometimes to patch up the sides with ballast....move slower is the key. A mountain scene was considered but wouldnt really fit in with the surrounding area. Cheers. Dave

[@DavidWilliams-yo4kb]

A church with graveyard and maybe a wedding scene would look gteat in the corner. As for the new scene over the tracks, maybe a small town scene. A row of shops on a road with a small culdisac of terrace houses going up to the track side with a metal fence facing the track with some kids watching trains pass thru it

[@Anthony.1967]

Great video again brilliant demonstration of what you are looking to do in the corner of your layout what about a farm yard scene might look nice with hay barns and cow in the fields

[@gmantree]

Hi Dave, excellent update as usual, in regards to the corner section how about a farm? a selection of buildings old and new, various vehicles tractors lorries etc and of course animals. Graham.

[@DeanPark]

hi...thanks for the suggestion. Lots of ideas. I will decide on day lol. Dave

[@PoshManSweets]

For that corner I'd recommend maybe some industrial buildings, like factories for warehouses. Older ones are often built to take up as much land as possible so quite often reach the very boarder of the railways land. Also that area looks slightly out of town... I can imagine it being a large town so would probably have some industry on the outskirts. If you're going to build a new raised section of those tracks you could have factories on both sides, can be linked by one of those internal conveyor belts you see between factory buildings across the tracks and maybe a staff footbridge?

[@DeanPark]

cheers...footbridge, now there is a thought! Cheers. 100000 ideas floating in my head lol. Dave

[@PoshManSweets]

Not surprised. I'm waiting to finally sort out the new house buying lark before I can start on a new layout. My idea has a base but changes constantly.

[@GWRailFan]

did your 40 run through a red light haha looks amazing keep up the good work :)

[@lewistyrrell4881]

Have you thought about putting a small business in that small corner? Have a scrap merchant working out of a couple of containers, possibly something as simple as a pylon running across the diagonal with a couple of workers doing some work on it. although it is a small space I think an industrial effect would work perfectly there.

[@DeanPark]

Hi....I have thought of 10000 things lol. Pylon idea is good. Have other corners of the layout that could be useful. Where do you get OO Gauge Pylons that aren't brass kits?....I don't think I could cope with building one lol. Dave

[@lewistyrrell4881]

Hi Dave, the ones that immediately come to mind are the ones that Hornby produce. I have added the link to this message. I don't believe that these are a brass kit. Something that I have not seen modelled is actually a pylon under construction. I know that these were installed in sections and usually involved the assistance of a helicopter carrying the sections as an underslung load. Perhaps having the bottom section installed with a helicopter shut down to the side might work well as a feature for your corner. Looking forward to your next video Hornby_R530_Set_of_3_Pylons/StockDetail.aspx

[@lewistyrrell4881]

www.hattons.co.uk/13281/Hornby_R530_Set_of_3_Pylons/StockDetail.aspx

[@MrVinnyh]

For the 2nd area curve. How about a Manor house / country hotel, The Celotex I used to deliver we had to watch our eyes at the factory as the dust really would make your eyes burn

[@brentleajunction]

Awesome layout mate on the back part of your layout could you not put a gave yard with a church?

[@thelibrarian46]

Are you going to have a security fence around the school, and a sign with the name of the school?

[@kevindonnelly9811]

It feels like so long since you last put out a video. I've been checking everyday. Can't wait to see this part of the layout complete. It's gonna look amazing. Would you ever run a modern freight on this layout? Like a EWS/friieghliner 66 with a rake on containers. you could easily make this layout modern with a few mods. Great stuff! Best layout on the web!

[@DeanPark]

Hi..working very hard on landscaping at the moment...but freezing cold up here, so time up the loft is limited. A model of the month video will appear later this week, and a Layout update in around 2 weeks, maybe before if I make significant progress. Thanks for your enthusiastic support. Thanks for your compliments too ;-) Dave

[@kavster]

Incredible videos, I just can’t stop watching them. Started at the beginning and working my way through them all! Just wanted to ask what the name of that foam is, and where you get it from please?

[@DeanPark]

hi, thanks for getting in touch. The white foam is Celotex....its a building insulator. I got mine from wickes. but other DIY stores will do it. Mine is 50mm thick, you get lots of different sizes. But wear gloves....the fibres don't half irritate if they get stuck in your fingers! The blue foam (if you see any in this video) is Styrofoam. Its harder to shape, but great stuff. But much more expensive. Cheers. Dave

[@kavster]

Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! I've tried XPS foam for building dioramas before, but have only ever been able to find it online. I assume Celotex is a different type of foam? Thanks again, and i'm really enjoying watching your videos. Hoping to have my own layout started soon, and your videos have both helped and inspired me! Keep up the amazing work!

[@nixonthomas806]

Hi Any buildings on the proposed raised area in the south west corner will require foundations and foundations need to rest on earth to spread the load. One solution would be to have buildings built at the same time as the proposed girder bridge. In effect a horizontal girder lattice could be built matching the plan of the building or buildings. The lattice would in real life be supported by columns thus taking the building loads down to solid ground. The reason for having buildings of the same period is that in real life the bridge/ lattice work would be designed specifically for the proposed buildings. Any newer buildings would in reality have resulted in a new supporting structure being required and that would mean the closing of that section to rail traffic for say two years. Of course you don't need to model the lattice and columns as they wouldn't be visible unless you decide to erect a building near the bridge entrance then you would see part of lattice and possibly a few columns. Regards Nick

[@HughScot1818]

I have been watching your videos for some time and enjoy them very much. I have one question for your your locomotives also run very smoothly how far apart did you connect the drop down wires from the track to the bus.

[@DeanPark]

hi, I wire up every 3 sections of 1metre flexitrack, more around turnouts etc. On some harder to get to areas, ie tunnel areas I have every 2 sections. Hope this helps.

[@exeterwestgroup6466]

is your walling wood & brickpaper? layout is really looking great.

[@DeanPark]

Hi, at station it is ply backing, card and brick paper. On the curve (the red brick) it is MDF backing, with plastic brick card glued on top. Behind the MDF is a MDF frame to keep the wall stiff and rigid. thanks. Dave

[@NapFloridian]

On the corner there you could put a castle... Little hill and a castle on top of it

[@neilcheyne]

I was thinking a farm or stables?? Reminds me of stables near M9 next to winchburgh line?

[@rjc1719]

In that back corner instead of going down make it rise up (eg: hill or mountain) to give some height to the layout. Also great video!!

[@DeanPark]

hi, it will now be a even more raised section at that corner....working on it now. Cheers. Dave

[@rjc1719]

DaveClass47 thanks for the reply, much appreciated. 👍🏻

[@poinchesterstation4514]

Would be really ambitious but maybe show one corner of a football stadium. Many modern stadiums are now built out of the city and back on to more urban areas. Derby county's pride park and Brighton fc stadium are both built in a more urban area and both have a railway running near to them

[@DeanPark]

oh to have the space to do a full stadium....maybe on my next layout lol. Great idea though, a low releif one might work, but perhaps not in that small corner :-( Dave

[@Kittensq729]

The corner at 11 minutes, what about a farm or set of allotments?

[@GBPuploads]

The back scene behind the level crossing looks a bit odd. Grass & trees rather than a continuation of the road. What are your plans?

[@DeanPark]

not sure. Concentrating on the end of the layout...will mop up the little details later. Suggestions welcome. Dave

[@DavidWilliams-yo4kb]

Is there a way to add crossovers between carriages as its always bothered me with model railways having the big gap between carriages as it takes away some of the realism. Seen some ppl make their own out of card bur most dont seem to.

[@mallard44499988]

Dave in your 2nd area what about another signal box? Neil

[@cedarcam]

I like the idea of the school It is one I used myself Just beware that while doing research I was caught in the act and the head suggested I should do the whole thing Hence I spent several years building the whole school all fully detailed inside rather than the low relief wall and playground I set out to make. It was a very enjoyable build though and will have the science block added to complete it. The idea of a farm others have made sounds good or perhaps a riding school. I also think you should fit something to do with forestry in somewhere as it is a large industry in Scotland Maybe a sawmill could be made in that area

[@DeanPark]

I have access to the school....its a community school so is open at nights. And I know some of the staff lol. My school will only be mid relief and some lower relief....a whole school, wow, that would be impressive. Dave

[@cedarcam]

That's very handy. In time I got to know the caretaker there who gave me access to all the areas I wanted to measure up. I used to go in the holidays. So yes the school will be a very good for you to make having the ability to measure up the buildings you want and adapt them to fit in the space you have. For me the first thing I made was the gym which is a separate building and was an interesting project in itself.

[@bigdod1000]

@ Dave Q what make and thickness o cork track underlay do you use ? thanks in advance George

[@DeanPark]

Hi....I use 3mm thick on the mainlines (1/8") and 1mm (1/16") at the station area, to keep the height of the track/platform correct. I use Javis. Hope this helps. Dave

[@clapps611]

Scrap Yard / Builders Yard or perhaps a Car Park (multi-storey) for the 600*600 corner

[@richardwoodhouse3163]

Hi Dave like watching your updates thanks for the advice last time need a bit more I am using a Hornby E link on windows 10 PC have a problem getting it to read Bachmann chips can you recommend any other 21 pin chips Thanks Richard

[@DeanPark]

Hi, I use the standard 21 pin Bachmann chips with no issues. Have you contacted Hornby railmaster support? I kept my laptop on windows 8 and deliberately didnt upgrade to 10. Would be interested to see if the upgrade to 10 has caused these decoder issues. Sorry I couldnt help more. Dave

[@sanderwjunctioninternation6152]

fantastic Dave wonderful video's as usual how about a Scottish distillery in the spare space ;0) "Hic, Hic"

[@neilgosling1132]

Hi Dave how about a timber mill for the white paper area and a forest on the other side with a road bridge so the timber mill can got the timber from the forest to the mill liking the videos and tips on how to make ones lay out come to life many thanks neil gosling

[@2001DestructionofLies]

how about a farm and rolling hills with animals with a long fence of coarse

[@him481]

Great vid Dave how about a tenement think smart models

[@DundeeRoad]

Nice one dave

[@peterjonhuddleston]

An idea might be able to introduce a rock cutting instead of brick walls just to vary things and create other visible interests, too much brickwork looks rather bland....just a thought

[@moontlc]

How about ruins of some sort...a typical Scottish castle or Church?

[@scotydog5465]

REALLY ENJOYING YOUR LAYOUT AND VIDEOS , YOU COULD CONSIDER BEING BASED ON EDINBURGH A BARRICKS IE RETFORD OR A PRISON OR EVEN A BONDED WHARHOUSE TO FILL IN THE SPACE YOU WERE ON ABOUT AND THE TUNNEL ENTRANCE WOULD DEFINATLEY LOOK BETTER WITH THE STEP FOR DEPTH PROSPECTIVE PLUS IM LEARNING FROM YOUR VIDEOS AS IM PLANNING A N GAUGE LAOUT FOR WHEN I RETIRE IN THE NEAR FUTURE LOL DONT HAVE THE SPACE FOR HO GAUGE

[@matbal]

Option 2

[@DeanPark]

thanks.....design have changed again.....curved brick arch wasn't working....so girder bridge going in....but with same layout, ie option 2! Cheers. Dave