Dear Rudy = I got SCAMMED big time with my Black Lotus

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@robertcasares9963
@robertcasares9963 5 жыл бұрын
Never played magic or collected. Watched hundreds of videos from rudy and am confident i can spot fakes.
@Villain12088
@Villain12088 3 жыл бұрын
Real shit!!
@Spazik86
@Spazik86 3 жыл бұрын
It is funny people pay thousands of dollars for "real" cards, which are still same fking piece of paper, like the "fakes"... :-D
@JaxNCards
@JaxNCards 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@UsmntSoccerCards
@UsmntSoccerCards 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spazik86 Money is just paper too, wild shit out here.
@tonyrichard8078
@tonyrichard8078 3 жыл бұрын
I thougjt I was the only one.... Legot never touch ed or played a magic card in my life.... Yet watched hundreds of videos
@koelkast9
@koelkast9 5 жыл бұрын
I don't even play or collect Magic.... WHY DID I WATCH OVER 20 VIDEOS OF THIS GUY
@koelkast9
@koelkast9 5 жыл бұрын
And enjoy it
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 5 жыл бұрын
Buy reserved list.
@muzosh
@muzosh 5 жыл бұрын
*DOn'T rESiSt iT*
@koelkast9
@koelkast9 5 жыл бұрын
@@muzosh i must. Im already into wargaming, there is only so much money in this world
@RedsHitpostMedia
@RedsHitpostMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Hes very characteristic kinda like a nerd Brendan Fraiser
@Schmedga
@Schmedga 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Rudy, Since you can obviously not take out your slabbed cards for color/lighting reference, you might be able to put the cards of "questionable authenticity" into an empty slab instead for reference.
@mradabaugh9406
@mradabaugh9406 4 жыл бұрын
The slabs can't be opened without being broken, therefore it is impossible to put a card in a slab wily nily.
@willem2099
@willem2099 4 жыл бұрын
So we can see fuck all and they just as well could be real?
@javaguru7141
@javaguru7141 3 жыл бұрын
@@mradabaugh9406 Even a partially intact/haphazardly reassembled slab would do the trick for viewing the card through the plastic.
@toatoa10
@toatoa10 3 жыл бұрын
@@mradabaugh9406 Rudy has broken open plenty of slabs to reuse
@danhallas3546
@danhallas3546 11 ай бұрын
Could easily use a bandsaw a hacksaw would work just as well just be more difficult setup
@FrankRoosevelt32
@FrankRoosevelt32 5 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the credit card - I guess most shady dealers wouldn't let you purchase with CC but if they do, definitely a good option.
@StahliCell
@StahliCell 5 жыл бұрын
5:40 I actually told the difference by the coloring of the hill. It seemed a bit too light compared to the others
@thisisthelukas
@thisisthelukas 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos actually saved me $250 on a fake Invocation Force of Will, so thanks, Rudy. Looked at another one side-by-side, did a color analysis, light test, reflection test, and used jeweler's loupes to look at the printing pattern up close. Documented my process and took photographs as best as I could, and even video recorded opening the card's packaging from the seller just in case. Luckily, I was able to get my case resolved and my money back.
@Tarkov.
@Tarkov. 5 жыл бұрын
When I first look at the revised duals the biggest thing that stands out is how perfectly rounded the corners are.
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 5 жыл бұрын
In Germany if you sell counterfeits your are responsible for reimbursements, even if you were screwed yourself, so he could get the money back from the person he bought the collections from.
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 5 жыл бұрын
Don't f- with Germany!
@GabrielAlcala956
@GabrielAlcala956 4 жыл бұрын
f--- Germany!
@matiasss550
@matiasss550 3 жыл бұрын
false, that´s not true. In Germany, as any other part of the world, if you got scammed you deal with it.
@bobdole8830
@bobdole8830 3 жыл бұрын
@@matiasss550 Maybe YOU do it that way ;) Doesn't change the laws
@matiasss550
@matiasss550 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobdole8830 If you got scammed buying a card person person it doesnt matter where you live. In India, in Germany or in Mars you are done.
@zerokidd21
@zerokidd21 5 жыл бұрын
Psa and bgs refuse to grade my floppy taco. They keep saying it's counterfeit but I know its real cuz I got it from pretty legit taco bell.
@Val.Kyrie.
@Val.Kyrie. 5 жыл бұрын
Surprised they didn’t call it authentic altered 🤷🏼‍♀️
@rde1986
@rde1986 5 жыл бұрын
I don't play magic anymore, Rudy seems to be like the old school magic players I used to meet, cool chill guys that were kind, really enjoy your videos bud !
@_Par1ah
@_Par1ah 5 жыл бұрын
Lost on a full set of power many years ago when ebay was in its infancy. It was literally paper printouts glued to cards.
@truenewsglobal
@truenewsglobal 5 жыл бұрын
Right away: The borders are too white on the unlimited cards. You can tell instantly without touching them or seeing them up close.
@GM-rs2fv
@GM-rs2fv 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Rudy, My name is -Sam- Timmy Plz Help
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 5 жыл бұрын
Here's a pre-paid postage sticker. Send in all your cards. Giggity.
@Utubesuxmycock
@Utubesuxmycock 5 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@typerightseesight
@typerightseesight 5 жыл бұрын
besides the vertical press problems it looks perfect. but it was clearly pressed on a home computer or something.
@NaZtRdAmUs
@NaZtRdAmUs 5 жыл бұрын
I dont even play magic or know whats going on but these videos are super interesting to me.
@blacklanner5795
@blacklanner5795 5 жыл бұрын
Always have a reference set of cheap common alpha / beta / revised of each color to compare to. You can still find junk commons of each type / color for pennies. Comparing your tropical island to 6 known authentic cards will make sure you didn't get screwed.
@slh1001
@slh1001 4 жыл бұрын
plot twist: The cards are all real and he just wanted to keep them
@haroerhaktak2613
@haroerhaktak2613 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he would've kept them even if they were real.
@lunabm
@lunabm 5 жыл бұрын
.3.696969% Women........... we are growing in numbers where...
@jijik2675
@jijik2675 5 жыл бұрын
I have never played this but still like to watch 😁😁👍👍👍 greetings from the netherlands
@silenthill4
@silenthill4 5 жыл бұрын
"they should be destroyed" "Agreed, that's why I keep them" !!!
@imnotimportant
@imnotimportant 5 жыл бұрын
5:32 spotted the fake one instantly... the island is green
@aternias
@aternias 5 жыл бұрын
I was eating and when Rudy pulled the lotus out of the sleeve I almost choked because I saw how purple the lotus was and knew it was fake immediately
@pauperjaymtg2920
@pauperjaymtg2920 5 жыл бұрын
Psssh i get scammed on basic lands😂 25cents a peice😂
@danh7777
@danh7777 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Kelnurok
@Kelnurok 5 жыл бұрын
Did he try consulting the "Guardian of the Lotus" to verify authenticity?
@SmuggyOcelot
@SmuggyOcelot 5 жыл бұрын
I actually own a fake pw9 set that feel like credit cards, I keep them because they are probably the closest I would ever have to the real deal. I would only use them in *CASUAL* play, and very rarely do I use them.
@Christian-cz9bu
@Christian-cz9bu 5 жыл бұрын
I have to stop answering questions out loud when Rudy asks them...
@P_Gunn_77
@P_Gunn_77 2 жыл бұрын
The binder full of tropical islands made my jaw drop to the floor. So. Many. Cards.
@sirfishslayer5100
@sirfishslayer5100 5 жыл бұрын
Rudy, you can tell the guys to get a regular land card from revised or unlimited and then compare the backs. That will be the dead give away. Same age cards, but the fronts are different.
@benmetzloff9124
@benmetzloff9124 5 жыл бұрын
I saw immediately the contrast on the front of the lotus was much brighter on the fake and the back was very glossy
@0lderSch00l
@0lderSch00l 5 жыл бұрын
Those "lines" on the lotus look like they were caused by running photo grade card stock through an ink jet printer. I quit using ink jets decades ago because they impregnate the paper and cause those lines on full color prints like photos (or, I guess fake cards). The photo stock mitigates it somewhat, but you can always see them. Fun fact, that's why the colors are lighter overall on the card, because ink jets SUCK at color depth, even now.
@kennydewer8682
@kennydewer8682 3 жыл бұрын
"I got some slabs" YEETS some lotus on the table. I don't even play magic I'm here from fucking pokemon card unboxing, what a wonderful rabbit hole.
@MakeItEasyTutorialGuide
@MakeItEasyTutorialGuide 5 жыл бұрын
You should add price for each cards in a corner. You would attract way more people on your channel since 99% of youtube users have no idea about the value of theses cards.
@daneru
@daneru 5 жыл бұрын
Value only exists amongst collectors. Theoretical value. If you buy one for investment you are buying this value.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 3 жыл бұрын
@@daneru all value is subjective, unless its food and shelter.
@Ronny_Cordova
@Ronny_Cordova 5 жыл бұрын
Usually the font is a dead give away for me, they never seem to be able to get it quite right.
@leastamazingtop1015
@leastamazingtop1015 3 ай бұрын
I found a lot of ice age that has that original magic Matte finish on the back that’s a good way to know what real old cards feel like
@onceagain77
@onceagain77 5 жыл бұрын
The fake dual also has a green tint on the right inside border of the art work.
@inthefade
@inthefade 4 жыл бұрын
I could tell instantly which one was the fake one and I haven't played MTG since the 90s. Started in Revised and played into Fourth. The coloring was more yellow. In Fourth all the colors got deeper, but Revised had a bit of a washed out hue.
@NotKD35
@NotKD35 5 жыл бұрын
Awkward moment during the "hidden fake card game" when I guessed it instantly and was correct... I thought the coloring was off!
@TheLegoWaffle
@TheLegoWaffle 5 жыл бұрын
a big giveaway on the lotus is the authentic lotuses have a small dot in the text box under "An" in An Interrupt, and the fakes currently do not have this dot.
@greedfox7842
@greedfox7842 5 жыл бұрын
I own 20 reproduction black lotus... the guy I got to grade them could only tell because the corners were the new style cut... $12 with shipping and I've taken them to all manner of legacy tournament.
@gabriellecisneros9295
@gabriellecisneros9295 5 жыл бұрын
The brown colour of the fake Black Lotus is 10000 times cooler than originals.
@Gravelbone
@Gravelbone 5 жыл бұрын
Geez, did they buff and wax those cards after printing? If those things reflected anymore light, we could use them in space. That glare was ridiculous and should be obvious to anyone this side of blindness. Wow, that was a hose job. Rudy often speaks of volatility in the market in reference to sealed product and singles, but I think it's downright warfare when purchasing high end singles, regardless of source or reputation. Save for a few like our hairy armed Guru here. Buyer beware. Thanks Rudy.
@jerryalvarez1713
@jerryalvarez1713 4 жыл бұрын
I’m more a a Sportscards collector and Jordan . But I have friends who play magic and this past week after watching your videos and others I got into magic my kids like Pokémon but magic made me start collecting . Just in 1 day I spent over a 1000 but mostly buying old magic cards. Either way I already got tons of boxes of the core 2021 and I’m actually excited that I got into magic . I enjoy your videos please keep it up 👍🏻
@CMAzeriah
@CMAzeriah 5 жыл бұрын
*pays company to authenticate cards* Rudy: *its fake*
@BoldSherlock
@BoldSherlock 5 жыл бұрын
Fakes are printed in cmyk that makes them more yellowish and old ones are rgb .
@aaaronmiller100
@aaaronmiller100 5 жыл бұрын
Nah both are cmyk, fakes and og abu
@snakeonia7542
@snakeonia7542 5 жыл бұрын
Timewalk is fake. 2 seconds in
@CharlieMarno100
@CharlieMarno100 2 ай бұрын
I immediately noticed the Lotus was way vibrant.
@MoneyMager
@MoneyMager 5 жыл бұрын
The green border around the dual land picture looked significantly different
@aldenboone2302
@aldenboone2302 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even play Magic and I genuinely enjoy your Channel lol
@nachoxaverage
@nachoxaverage 5 жыл бұрын
As a no name timmy, i could tell right away when you did the lotus side by side with them slabbed beauts.
@ekermann
@ekermann 5 жыл бұрын
This can't be for real a quick glance and you can see they're fake.
@muzosh
@muzosh 5 жыл бұрын
How do you think he got his massive collection of black lotuses and Power 9 cards.
@Warlothar
@Warlothar 5 жыл бұрын
the tropical island doesn't seem so obvious, i think that it seems the same until you see the reflection.
@perception5
@perception5 5 жыл бұрын
rudy just writes to himself, folds the paper to look more legit, about all the times he ever got scammed never*** rudy never gets scammed sorry typo
@Skankhunt-xr5lb
@Skankhunt-xr5lb 5 жыл бұрын
true lol
@eancycler1112
@eancycler1112 5 жыл бұрын
This better be good, Rudy. You interrupted English class for this.
@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth
@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth 5 жыл бұрын
unimportant class, just make sure you pay attention in math
@Skankhunt-xr5lb
@Skankhunt-xr5lb 5 жыл бұрын
@@DT_Worlds_Strongest_Goth If English was unimportant we wouldn't have laws or regulations dumbass
@silverwolf6866
@silverwolf6866 5 жыл бұрын
@@Skankhunt-xr5lb ROFL you must be an angry English degree major that realized the degree was worthless.
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 5 жыл бұрын
pay attention to class or your gonna be one of those fools with bad grammer who cant spell to save there lives!!
@eancycler1112
@eancycler1112 5 жыл бұрын
fsmoura lol I actually spend all day in comments sections correcting people’s grammar in their videos-I’m probably the most ruthless to Rudy.
@Yazevo
@Yazevo 5 жыл бұрын
If they expressly called it fake they would need to get authorities involved.
@neplatnyudaj110
@neplatnyudaj110 5 жыл бұрын
Over a piece of cardboard? Unless you're not trying to sell the fake, what would be the charges?
@JP-id7zq
@JP-id7zq 5 жыл бұрын
You know its serious when the paper of the letter has been dipped in taco cheese
@zeyf7810
@zeyf7810 5 жыл бұрын
6:38 The Rudy-Switchero, swapping his fake for the real
@capatheist
@capatheist 5 жыл бұрын
Totally worth messing up the fake theme of the binder...
@ThunderPaladin
@ThunderPaladin 5 жыл бұрын
Doing good work, Rudy.
@DuskSkullin
@DuskSkullin 5 жыл бұрын
Been watching these Rudy investigates fakes videos and you just start to notice the patterns of what determines a fake card. Kind of interesting honestly
@TCGPH
@TCGPH 5 жыл бұрын
Hi rudy.. you influence me so much that im planning of opening an LGS. I just want to know if opening booster boxes and selling singles can be a profitable business or im better off just selling sealed products like booster packs/boxes? Thank you and hoping for more viewers for your channel.
@TristanEason6
@TristanEason6 5 жыл бұрын
Rudy has mad a few other videos on opening a LGS, you should check them out. Spoiler alert: Don't open a LGS
@rogersdai6752
@rogersdai6752 5 жыл бұрын
You sure it wasn't Rudy that hosed you?😂
@seritools
@seritools 5 жыл бұрын
"Rudy = I got SCAMMED big time with my Black Lotus"
@rogersdai6752
@rogersdai6752 5 жыл бұрын
@@seritools 😂😂
@ArtFiendz
@ArtFiendz 3 жыл бұрын
The real ones up close almost look like cloth. Something really beautiful about them.
@DataCollaborate
@DataCollaborate 5 жыл бұрын
5:36 .. Holy Crap, this time Rudy got me.
@computorg
@computorg 5 жыл бұрын
Where are the floppy tacos in the video?
@Ralexford
@Ralexford 5 жыл бұрын
The black lotus looks like a collectors edition re-back, look at the casting cost, very central 0 on the fake, and to the right on the authentic.
@uncletomcobley6950
@uncletomcobley6950 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Siri, Get me some hand moisturiser stat!!!
@michaelknight8459
@michaelknight8459 5 жыл бұрын
Wish you showed a close up to see what the rosetta pattern looked like.
@Chris-qj8ms
@Chris-qj8ms 5 жыл бұрын
Yikes that’s a terrible black lotus
@MrWp7
@MrWp7 5 жыл бұрын
Even missing the most obvious print dot... amateur...
@SB-ue1lr
@SB-ue1lr 5 жыл бұрын
Ohh; that sucks! I feel bad for him.
@tylerstl456
@tylerstl456 5 жыл бұрын
I dont play magic, but i do like this channel. I feel like I could safely tell a fake from real card now lol because I watch almost every vid, when he picked that lotus up i knew instant it was to shiny. Floppy taco
@rustyshackleford11
@rustyshackleford11 5 жыл бұрын
these people paid 10% of the value of an expensive card and didn't expect to get hosed ahaha
@VidyUwU
@VidyUwU 5 жыл бұрын
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD I FELT TELLING IT WAS FAKE CARD T’T idk why but I just looked different >.
@malcom91
@malcom91 5 жыл бұрын
PSA Lotus 7 and 8.5??? Really? I'm disappointed, we expect to see all 10's, maybe an 11 from Beta Investments
@stanime3065
@stanime3065 5 жыл бұрын
why pay for grading if you can just send them to this Rudy
@greatgooglypuff6077
@greatgooglypuff6077 5 жыл бұрын
Those did look like vertical pressure lines on that lotus
@opencorners
@opencorners 2 жыл бұрын
93 was when digital presses came out - its unlikely that beta cards were digitally printed the same year new tech was available in its baby stage the vertical lines are from not cleaning so its likely whoever made that fake made lots of them the corners on the fake also look a tiny bit off - look at it with a loupe looks like they had a press person make a plate for a card but its printed on a very new digital press to print it where the offsets or cuts were intentionally placed versus being the result of a non-digital press, which is also very clear in the colors
@awpmerst
@awpmerst 4 жыл бұрын
I really wanna hear a message to you rudy by the specials every time I see you open a letter
@mpellis22
@mpellis22 5 жыл бұрын
If you have ever touched a magic card for more than thirty seconds, I can feel one blindfolded. The counterfeiters will never get the feel the same
@chrisgibbs804
@chrisgibbs804 5 жыл бұрын
These are so obvious its painful.... near mint power 9 and duals.... that shine is next level. And I'm sure the thickness is off. Buy a plateau or just some bulk revised or something and compare....
@b.o.353
@b.o.353 5 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Not what happened to this guy. Very helpful to see.
@VillageConMan
@VillageConMan 5 жыл бұрын
what does the text look like with a jeweler's loupe on those fakes?
@TenichiYohkoh
@TenichiYohkoh 5 жыл бұрын
lol Lines like that mean the print head wasnt cleaned between prints thats HILARIOUS its literally an automatic function of most printers!
@darkrevamtg2687
@darkrevamtg2687 5 жыл бұрын
I dont see how people get fooled. Im like a bloodhound with fakes. Those little differences stand out to me instantly. Ive had people try to pass off fake cards to me and well...they pay for it. Youd be surprised how generous people get when they think theyre about to get kicked out of a store-event
@fleshmagi
@fleshmagi 5 жыл бұрын
my question, where's the 5th nut located? for that matter, where is the 3rd and 4th?
@andrewames247
@andrewames247 3 жыл бұрын
To anyone who might help a beginning collector out; if I don't have a jewelers loupe to check the rosette pattern, is a light test still a gold standard to check for forgeries? Are there ANY known fake cards that can pass the light test?
@travisyoutubeseriesofrando1363
@travisyoutubeseriesofrando1363 5 жыл бұрын
Came to see printer style destruction, was disappointed...
@flipevent
@flipevent 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Rudy, since I'm planning then to get some of the more expensive Revised Duals (Sea and Tundra), would you then suggest playing it safe and buying it from a big store? (CF, CK, maybe you? XD)
@BizarreBazaarBW
@BizarreBazaarBW 5 жыл бұрын
Those vertical lines are called Striations.
@quickdiy8127
@quickdiy8127 5 жыл бұрын
Do you still have to pay PSA to grade your stuff if it kicks back as fake?
@akcrazycollector
@akcrazycollector 5 жыл бұрын
Do I need to be a patron to send you some 4th edition cards that someone said were fake?
@MegaF00
@MegaF00 5 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that Sam sent in cards to BGS and PSA to see which ones would let his fakes through. Fortunately none of them did.
@yugiohpokemon5285
@yugiohpokemon5285 5 жыл бұрын
I hate his late night uploads. Like my wife wants me to lay down with her and I have to keep saying one minute one minute
@fish_guru20
@fish_guru20 3 жыл бұрын
Whispers from a distance I died Rudy hahahahah
@ZhangyXD
@ZhangyXD 5 жыл бұрын
your card was real but got swapped at 5:11 LOL
@Spellfork
@Spellfork 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why the Black Lotus is blue, but the fake is clearly purple
@joeshaver1104
@joeshaver1104 5 жыл бұрын
Collected and played magic since back in the mid 90s. (Quit playing around nemesis. Sometime after urza's saga 2004 ish). In 1999 my dad bought me a set of power 9 for high school graduation. He bought them from a reputable store (it was a baseball card shop that wouldn't have sold fake on purpose. I have had these cards for 20 years. They look perfect. Almost too perfect. If they had been bought recently I'd say they were fake. Not sure the fakes back in 1999 could have looked this good. Right now I'm scared to get them graded or checked only because, 1) i have no plans of selling them. They were a gift from my dad. 2) i would rather think dad got me a real set. So very torn about finding out.
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 3 жыл бұрын
That’s an incredible grad present, hope they aren’t fake dude. How real do they look?
@joeshaver1104
@joeshaver1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@elipetrou9308 when I got it the back lotus was valued at $300. He bought the set for $1000 and some work on the interior of the shop owners car. I've known the owner of the shop since I was born. Dad has known him for 50+ years. If they are fake, the owner didn't know. I can't see fakes being that good back in 1999-2000 when I graduated. I'm almost sure they are real
@joeshaver1104
@joeshaver1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@elipetrou9308 I've seen fakes from the early 2000s and they look and feel fake. These look and feel like real magic cards and they were bought in 1999. I know they were in the store since 1997... so if they were fake, they wouldn't look and feel real right?
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 3 жыл бұрын
@@joeshaver1104 that’s fair, do you think you know enough to tell. Such as rudy does?
@joeshaver1104
@joeshaver1104 3 жыл бұрын
@@elipetrou9308 not personally. I have buddy who owns a shop that says they look real but I have never taken them out of the cases (after I put them in the cases years ago). Basically my assumption that they are real is based on 1) the person who sold them is honest and I've known him forever. 2) in 1999 I don't think they made fakes that looked that good. I've compared mox pearl to other mox pearls and it looks legit. 3) I don't have a reason to think they are fake. Nothing about them makes me think they are other than how good they look (not perfect but for sure never shuffled without sleeves)
@adamberry1829
@adamberry1829 5 жыл бұрын
That Tundra really looks bad. Almost bleached.
@talarion
@talarion 5 жыл бұрын
What about the "light test"? This usually exposes those fakes quite easily.
@sirrichel9155
@sirrichel9155 5 жыл бұрын
Man you hit that 10 on the dot huh? Thats a skill right there
@danh7777
@danh7777 5 жыл бұрын
He's been doing it a while. Alot of people comment on it. Curious why commenting on this is a thing? (No offense..truely curious)
@sirrichel9155
@sirrichel9155 5 жыл бұрын
@@danh7777 Apparently a video on youtube can have an extra midroll ad if it is atleast 10 mins long. I don't really know or care, just impressed he managed to hit it on the dot this video.
@ParksandPosh
@ParksandPosh 3 жыл бұрын
At 5:10 I was fairly sure I was able to spot the signs the hand was fake. The colouring was pretty authentic but the textures were all off
@ccggenius
@ccggenius 2 жыл бұрын
Rudy over here, subtly telling us that we can easily buy sleeve playable proxies.
@andrewbaker2188
@andrewbaker2188 3 жыл бұрын
This crap pisses me off SO much!!! Thiefs are absolutely the bottom of humanity.
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