Death of An Artstyle

[@FUNKe]

Since this is popular again: I still agree with this video, I don't regret making it. In hindsight, I think the modern art style is a mix of both valve poorly planning things AND valve intentionally lifting their own restrictions for the sake of player expression. I don't like that people see this video and forget that second part. Mostly because I hadn't considered it when making the video. I don't "walk back" any of my points, I just find awful loadouts more funny than upsetting today.

[@Ban-zx9se]

People are already whining and jumping to conclusions lol

[@milliondollarmistake]

make a modern follow up

[@nullvoid3545]

If VALVE wanted to loosen the restrictions intentionally to encourage expression, then why is their A clear pattern of them mostly choosing things with the established art style in mind, then only making exceptions for items in the rarest slots of A case? Plus team recognition is important and in A much worse state then it was when this video was made. I think the line you drew here for "egregious" cosmetics was reasonable, and your example using the glitched heavy as A *joke* now looks like it could happen if the very real legit version on sniper goes multi class. I mean if you really feel like its fine as it is, then how much further will you accept? Do we cross the line when pyro finally completes his full body paintable clown suit? Maybe another few head as fruit hats? OH! What about A watermelon to complement the citrus? We could even reuse the model! I honestly don't think you care either way, you even said that yourself in this video, and that's fine. But this video is on point. regardless of how interested you are in defending your opinions in it.

[@ZestyJesus]

ugh You do walk back on the video, at least in some capacity, by dismissing unbefitting cosmetics as "funny" or the objective problems some cause as "arbitrary or subjective." Some nuance and subjectivity lies in determining what is/is not befitting for the game, but certain lines were crossed long ago that should have never been. I think most people could agree and a giant hot pink banana head isn't something that belongs, for example. This video remains spot on, and seeing you (and many others) become complacent with Valve sacrificing what makes TF2 unique for the sake of "player expression" saddens me. Don't be fooled, Valve may have intentionally lifted their restrictions, but with money in mind, and not with care for the game nor player expression, that's for damn sure. You may not care anymore, and that's fine, you've moved on to others things. But many others still do, and reducing concerns with content selection to "eh, it's funny," puts a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths. I'll always stand by players being allowed to express themselves within the confines of a game's style and tone, but to not open the floodgates to anything they desire simply because they like it and it "expresses" who they are.

[@nullvoid3545]

@@ZestyJesus You sir have been bamboozled! Do you think Funke might elaborate on the apparent nuance im not seeing? Perhaps we define the interests of player expression differently?

[@dornkthepanda]

this entire video was made to say "the banana hat is stupid"

[@jiado6893]

So too modernly anachronistic, and too busy. That and the last 30 seconds sum up the whole video.

[@theletterl8948]

@Daniel von Strangle i played in a game with robtheawsm and i was in one of his twitch stream

[@droidixbacon]

I love it

[@peanutman8279]

Probably

[@dazaway]

Yeah lol

[@Mercenatiry]

I miss item descriptions so much

[@chaosinc.382]

The ones that came with the Electric Bugaloo hats cracked me up good.

[@Angel_Flash]

Heads will roll

[@Nick-cg5hi]

Aquaphoto I don't I just enjoy the way the hat looks not how nicely a few sentences are worded

[@floodrunner_2042]

Nick Whittle The descriptions added some charm to the items even if they were just small things. Also the thing is that the community items added each update already have a description on their page yet Valve doesn't even add them which kinda sucks imo

[@diobrando3378]

Aquaphoto same

[@jamesthegoo7600]

FUNKe in 2017: Tf2's artstyle makes no sense. Tf2 in 2020: You can now play as Foreskin.

[@SamHoward-l9q]

what.

[@lostobj]

a painted executioner with the binoculus makes foreskin man

[@SamHoward-l9q]

@@lostobj WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO BE FORESKIN MAN

[@MSCDonkeyKong]

@@SamHoward-l9q why not?

[@SamHoward-l9q]

@@MSCDonkeyKong BECAUSE THATS WEIRD AS HELL

[@yerd533]

Valves response? They gave heavy a banana

[@none-q4o]

More like they just fucking yeet the game out of the window.

[@Niiue]

Justin they just left it there for a week

[@353-d8o]

@@none-q4o giving heavy a banana doesn't ruin the game clown

[@none-q4o]

Cropsy I meant they dropped any effort focusing on tf2 and just work on something else (Probably, idk what I trying to say 6 months ago)

[@353-d8o]

@@none-q4o they don't yeet the game out of the window they just leave it untouched in their room, not having updates while can make the game boring for some veterans it also doesn't make the game bad either tf2 is still very good even tho it doesn't get updates

[@Jo-ew7lw]

lol, heavy likes bananas now.

[@casey997]

A Kelp Shake true

[@AtillaTheFun1337]

A Kelp Shake Spy still doesn’t though

[@kura100]

Also Soldier. He was eating one before the Yeti jumped on him at the jungle inferno short.

[@Nrowi]

Should of put a cheesesteak instead

[@brodyatkinson1960]

Heavy is big gei confirmed?

[@Noperare]

Original TF2 artstyle: Clean, describes the character function, easy to reconize a class and team TF2 now: a cluster of gags that lost the punchline

[@LurkerPlus]

I remember reading how part of the art design was that you could immediately identify a TF2 class by his silhouette. A pity that got thrown out the window, never to return.

[@firephoenix6056]

**gets 1.1k and 2 replies**

[@azirul9311]

@@firephoenix6056 not every big comment need hundreds of replies

[@azirul9311]

@@cibo889 what a perfect literature you just written

[@foopthehoop3103]

Rohan the fat items kinda make it harder to tell if that’s an engineer or heavy

[@Jim_boe]

5:48 “are you sure this game isn’t satanic” it is cannon that the medic has made (a) deal(s) with Satan and it is suggested that he surgically implanted the souls of the other mercenaries into himself

[@StilvurBee]

the souls of the tfc mercs actually, tf2 mercs still have their souls

[@aaronking2020]

@@StilvurBee yeah...no. in the comics medic said "it's because we don't have souls! Well they don't but i- nevermind." When refering to the TF2 Mercs.

[@StilvurBee]

@@aaronking2020 in my opinion, he's correcting himself because he was just on their side

[@kirbles2035]

grammar nazi here! It's spelt canon

[@MetaKaios]

@@kirbles2035 If you were a true grammar nazi, you would have put quotation marks around 'canon'.

[@cheerfulpessimist952]

I hope they never fix the Hazmat Headcase. The only reason I still have it is because I can wear it on Sniper and anyone I kill is forced to look at my complete abomination of a mercenary.

[@Linkmasterson]

The hazmat headcase really only looks good on the sniper if you mix it with the anger but the question is do you really want an edgy sniper? ( ͡ ° ͜ʖ ͡ ° )

[@oui3255]

@@Linkmasterson no edgy sniper no

[@tangerinepaint3643]

@@Linkmasterson Makes him looks kinda like a Hunter from Destiny or Destiny 2

[@osakanone]

How to fix it: Give me a tickbox that lets me disable all of the hats and other cosmetics clientside visually.

[@Wintd1]

There was a similar mod years ago that disabled all hats clientside, but this also included the default hats that some classes wear, so you'd see a lot of bald engies and soldiers running around.

[@Foxingg]

That would also be good for people running low-end PCs. TF2 has become such a jumble of spaghetti code over there years something simple like that could double some folk's performance.

[@fpv568]

There is a script to make TF2 run better that has that as an option.

[@fpv568]

@Kattos _ can't find the one I used but there are several mods to remove hard and unusual effects and such

[@fpv568]

@Radio Star being an asshole on the internet doesn't make you cool. Who the fuck asked for your opinion?

[@HellishSpoon]

6:57 That was actually a decent point Good read.

[@Livid72Des]

It really was, to bad most commenters are never that civil.

[@wotwott2319]

#BuffClaidHeamhMor

[@nathanjohnson9904]

HELL SPOON I

[@SmallDoki]

HELL SPOON I

[@VMan_2002]

_can i offer you an egg in these trying times_

[@VRichardsn]

You know, it is a trend I have seen in Free to Play games. As the game gets older, the devs have to push the boundaries in order to continue selling stuff and thus making the game self sufficient. World of Tanks used to have mostly real vehicles; Team Fortress 2 had little cosmetics, and they were very restrained; War Thunder's cut off date was supposed to be the Korean War. And so on and so on...

[@NikolasoGames]

But they wouldn't actually need to do that. If a game goes on and on, just create something in the style of that game rather than going far from it. Or, if you really can't keep in the style of it, give up, because what's the use.

[@VRichardsn]

@@NikolasoGames Oh, absolutely. I would love to see that.

[@porkystrangler3821]

not even a f2p only thing, the last time I looked at siege's store page it had some halloween bullshit going on with voodoo doll bodies for the operators and I was so fucking stumped

[@CrizzyEyes]

Dota 2 is arguably worse. You can have custom hero portraits in Dota 2 now. Despite the fact that I've had 2k hours in the game (I did take a break for a couple of years and started again recently), I've had multiple games where I said "Wait who the hell is that hero supposed to be?" because they had some new outrageous cosmetic set and custom portrait.

[@VRichardsn]

@@CrizzyEyes Custom portraits? And the other players can see them?

[@lithesra3666]

One third of my inventory is filled with cases. I live in the Netherlands.

[@cadsquade]

The worst is when you get keyless paint crates...

[@sordes8598]

@@cadsquade i learned thus the hard way, why doesn't Valve just give you a warning

[@eva1777]

And you can buy the key... You just can't use it. Now that's nasty.

[@ha9phtfpaehs]

kanker)))

[@thewildruda6113]

@@eva1777 I mean i can’t open crates but still buy keys for Trading

[@axtra9685]

In all seriousness, thanks a million for shedding light onto this subject. Game art design isn't something that a lot of people seem to get the importance of (or at least not intuitively), so it's great to see you finding the way to sum up so much information in such a short video for people to understand. Also, while all class cosmetics are very practical in terms of quickly setting up a loadout for (obviously) all classes, they lack the charm and charisma that can be found in a lot of class locked cosmetics. It's really sad to see some really clever hats get covered in the shade of some cosmetic purely popular by its undeserved rarity valve has chosen.

[@lpsp442]

People often gravely mistake the role of the aesthetic in games or any other functional piece. They are a useful and typically crucial component, without question.

[@yoshidavis3022]

Stanstub

[@energeticyellow1637]

"b-but my funny and le randumb hatz tho DD:>"

[@ollies1170]

Astra wtf you have the same avatar as me, I got so spooked lmao

[@MG_Spy]

The only loadout of mine I'd consider to be comical is my Summer Heavy. He's got the hard counter, the aqua flops, and the graybanns. Besides that, I try to reflect my playstyle for whatever class it is.

[@denpadolt9242]

7:12 "Hey it's your Uber driver... am here"

[@kittyluvr]

Waddle Derp *outside.

[@lukalackovic9059]

Denpa Dolt What a disaster!

[@xolagix]

mark, go home, you're fucking drunk.

[@slurponaut]

"...stupid"

[@SynsVEVO]

I recently started playing TF2 again after a ~2 year break and when I saw the Banana Hat I just said outloud "what the fuck is that?"

[@Slender_Man_186]

I just imagine you staring at you computer screen quoting FMJ. "What is that? WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!?"

[@callmetycho7030]

How about "WHAT THE HE'LL IS THAT!? WHY THE HELL IS THAT!?" thanks mark

[@SynsVEVO]

This is my Banana There are many like it but this one is mine

[@ExpertExterminators]

I had a similar reaction when they added the heavy taunt "Boiling Point". I screamed "OH MY GOD DID THEY REALLY ADD THAT AS A TAUNT!" The stupid thing is, the table tantrum and boiling point taunt are literally the same fucking thing just different pots on the table.

[@blazeofglory4053]

Valve is too busy adding banana hats, rather than fixing their broken-ass game. Seriously, people like Delfy are STILL FINDING GAME BREAKING BUGS AND GLITCHES!!!! I think by 9 years of developement, they meant designing great hats, then jerking off all over it.

[@ulasoznc]

5:10 *breathes heavily cause of the enjoyment for getting an unusual* *realises that its not an unusual* -goddamnit

[@yassinelhossainy4224]

Christian Brutal Sniper *GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

[@saltysnoopy9361]

lol

[@someonefromsomewhere1009]

DrIvanRadosivic I bunch of pixels that have real monetary value which means what you said means nothing

[@george4763]

Christian Brutal Sniper ща

[@_GhostMiner]

When you're F2P: * laughs in stock *

[@fenn_fren]

**laughs in pink as hell painted gibus**

[@captain_hammer]

* laughs in Towering Titanium Pillar of Hats, Marxman and purple-painted Dangerous Duckling *

[@pfitz9346]

I'm the dude who's been playing since 08 but still uses stock hats and miscs. Though recently I switched from stock to the "proof of purchase" on my demo.

[@eco1969]

* laughs in engineer jag taunt *

[@_GhostMiner]

@@eco1969 heck yeah! Jag 4ever

[@kibsplitch5212]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Pyro has the most fitting cosmetics in terms of his personality I think. He might have a hat or two that’s pretty weird, but his cosmetics mostly take the cutesy or intimidating route. I feel like this both fits how he actually is and how he looks.

[@NikolasoGames]

Eh, maybe.

[@Teknorat]

>he

[@aussieseal9979]

Pyro has no gender

[@taraktaras7327]

@@aussieseal9979 how are we gonna talk about pyro then? With the name? That won't be good, and you can't say "it/them" since there's a difference between "no gender" and "non binary" TL;DR:peeps should call Pyro whatever they want.

[@aussieseal9979]

@@taraktaras7327 generally, when someone is Agender, you refer to them as they/them. And pyros pronouns throughout the source material, are they/them. It's not hard

[@bamboozledagain4165]

This was a very well made video and I agreed with a lot of your points. Valve seriously needs to get their shit together.

[@jerrymcghoulberry355]

Um... What?

[@jaidenmci899]

it's too late for that

[@Xenoforge78]

+Jerry McGhoulberry His comment made complete sense. Are you on the drugs?

[@2017tropmarrant]

no they dont. plenty of people are pleased with the hats, whereas the weapons.... that's where valve should work on. and what do you want valve to do ? remove hats ? great idea

[@2017tropmarrant]

Matthew Champlain the main "problem" is just all class hats. items added for classes specifically are made for those classes. look at the last case. flash for scout, mario for engi. makes sense. red glasses for sniper as well as spy. makes sense. a gaz mask for pyro. makes sense.

[@iloveteaalot6483]

I hope people also start to notice that Valve has been slowly ruining CS:GO's artstyle by making it more cartoony, bright and even somewhat nonsensical

[@yuushanaruto9676]

They've ruined the original art style as soon as they added skins imo. When have you seen trained professionals carry around guns that have dragons, skulls and anime girls painted on them? That's the type of shit you expect Borderlands psychos to do and not counter terrorists.

[@Mystibump]

@@yuushanaruto9676 Same for Terrorists, who are more or less the same thing. I could see Terrorists maybe having a more stylized appearance to them but not to the point it'd make them an easy target to spot.

[@thesenate8268]

YES! New character models suck! Like the bank robber wearing a condom on his head bombing missile crates in de_mirage. What the fuck Valve?

[@fasulimac92]

@@yuushanaruto9676 Yeah, imagine a goddamn police force chasing you and they stop you with m4s painted with anime girls

[@andrueis]

@@thesenate8268 its not a condom its pantyhose which makes it actually not that bad

[@rahuhe4102]

Can I offer you an Egg in these trying times?

[@bladabladabloo]

The Blu Spy "I believe I've been poisoned by my constituents!"

[@Klausinator451]

bladabladabloo Bleeheeeeeehhhhh!! Favorite scene.

[@tythesmonk4819]

AN OPINION ON THE INTERNET!? you FUNKed up

[@josh1926swag]

OH MY GOD YOU FUNKe-ING DIDNT

[@gigaswardblade7261]

at least he didnt go into dangerous territories. like for say... calling pyro garbage.

[@tap5263]

Hi

[@thirst7827]

Big Smoke You chose the wrong house fool

[@d3gr4d3r8]

LOL

[@Xeotroid]

3:43 Well, technically, since Scout is from Boston and the age of consent in Massachusetts is 16, he might be legally alright in that regard, unless he went for the freshmen (or perhaps the sophomores as well, depending on what kind of school it is).

[@LARAUJO_0]

States can set their own age of consent?

[@thebowler5506]

Yeah hoss, in West Virginia it's like 14 or something like that

[@rachaelgibbs1152]

@@thebowler5506 wait wHAT

[@kedarunzi9139]

@@thebowler5506 how

[@thebowler5506]

@@kedarunzi9139 Fuck if I know man, but technically speaking, we're a year higher than Japan on that

[@sunforged1662]

The bananna hat is plain annoying to look at.

[@nikolaitheundying]

But Moonman

[@shrub8644]

I remember when people were concerned about the unicorn hat... now this shit is ordinary

[@logangoeller5678]

I guess the design of it isn't all that aPEELing. Edit: Man, the amount of likes on this reply is BANANAS! (Ok, I'm done)

[@blazeofglory4053]

the pink or a green banana looks like cancer personified

[@Quill_Quetza]

"It looks ridiculous" and that's why I love it

[@Drew_64]

Dude, funkE, *AMAZING EDITING!* Props to you man!

[@overxgaming7948]

drew1212 I agree, good job :D

[@WailFin]

drew1212 🎵 _It's not unuuuusual..._

[@ZebraOnYourNose]

Agreed, amazing work!

[@jokernine165]

TF2 Gameplay = Just fun in gameplay, making hats and cosmetics non-sense TF2 Cinematics = The actual story, just some cosmetics that appear in the cinematics are actually "canon"

[@mayo_-]

Poor argument

[@SharkyMcSnarkface]

TF2 lore = Incomprehensible insanity

[@JustinCage56]

@@Hazgoblin "The girl is here too"?

[@aaronking2020]

@@SharkyMcSnarkface well yes, but actually no. Srsly it has real, understandable, lore, just read the comics.

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

I must correct you on the in-game timeline: *The Robot War started in 1972, not 1971, as 1972 is canonically the year in which Gray Mann murdered his brothers Redmond and Blutarch.* That date is supported by SEVERAL comics, including the dates given for Gray Mann's birth in 1822 and his own words that it's 150 years later when he murders his brothers, and the TF2 Update comic. The events of post-Robot War/post-retirement of the mercs must take place in at least 1973. The 1972 date on the Teufort police jail boards for Scout and Spy is either flat wrong due to a script error by the writers, or a hint that the brain-addled citizens of Teufort no longer know which year they are in. Unfortunately some idiots at the TF2 Wiki started retroactively back-dating all other timeline dates from that one erroneous date and ignored all discussion and proof to the contrary, deleting all attempts to correct the timeline.

[@FUNKe]

Apologies for getting it incorrect if this is the case.

[@cufo7806]

nurd lol

[@Temmoie]

Bunneer It's meant to be "Between the Cold War".

[@Ice-wu8qq]

I thought he said Roblox war .-. I feel embarassed. + Necroposting yay!

[@CameronR05]

Now days the heavy likes bananas

[@dasverlorenewort8498]

Ye

[@ryanphillips4123]

The thing is, as memey as the people of the internet are, most TF2 players don't dress like an absolute clown. Most players are trying to create an outfit that expresses them and they often do a pretty good job. The shittyest cosmetics largely aren't used at all. That still leaves pleanty of room to be mad at valve for shoveling trash into the game, but if the overwhelming majority of players just don't use ugly, stupid, or otherwise egregious items, then the artsyle of the game isn't getting dragged down nearly as much as you make it seem.

[@Thebooooy]

Yeah, I don't wear hats that I don't like, even if people say "oH, wELL tHaT's a HiGh TiEr hAt," I couldn't care less. For example, let's say there was this one really famous Scout main youtuber that wore the bacteria blocker, all by itself. Sounds pretty strange, right? Well, people would still wear it, regardless of how it looked, they just want people to think its that one youtuber. I just like to choose what I think looks good for me. Not that anybody cares or anything, but my favorite scout loadout (because I think it looks dope) is Greased lightning, summer shades, and dead of night. I mean it's ok if you don't like these cosmetics but I think they fit perfectly together. (sorry to any bacteria blocker fans, I just think it looks weird. UNLESS you're purposefully going for a meme, then its funny.)

[@NikolasoGames]

I agree but I don't agree with the "You make it seem like it's that bad", the point is that the Valve team ( if it isn't actually an automated system ran by a bot anyway) is acting really stupid by even picking those items, or breaking up good sets, or literally not even caring what goes through, not even considering to add certain items because they keep picking items based off of some other reason or item creator, the items are very unbalanced too which means only one certain class keeps getting more stuff (More money), it almost feels like an insult everytime they do it, and they even DO THAT WITH MAPS. That just sucks. But yes, people generally pick out good cosmetics, but it's such a waste of money and space to have that other trash even be in a case. Ahem, the Smissmas 2021 case was a huge success, right?

[@dajokahbaby1506]

What servers are you playing on because everyone does look like a fucking clown lol, like what do you mean?

[@triton62674]

This was a very well made and edited video but it's a damn shame this game has become unrecognisable.

[@dingding12321]

...aesthetically, at least.

[@bennemann]

I predicted this would happen the day the community-made weapons came out, and quit the game in protest that very day. They threw down the drain everything they had been saying of how they had to carefully balance each weapon out (and that's why updates took so long). Today's TF2 is but an empty husk of what it once was.

[@AyeAyeKane]

Unrecognisable? I think that’s a bit far. For a 10 year old game the overall look has stayed the same

[@bennemann]

That changes nothing, Pink. When the Jarate update came out for the Sniper, people were complaining about how each class update took excessively long to come out, and Valve replied that's because they balanced the stats for each weapon very carefully and that took a lot of time. You're gonna tell me they used to take months to balance a couple weapons before, but then magically became capable to balance dozens of weapons with the same care in a much shorter timespan?

[@SharkyMcSnarkface]

I can still recognize a scout even if they are in a horrible lime colour. In fact it’s actually easier.

[@heyitspastry]

It's crazy how even after six years this video is still relevant.

[@aitor.online]

"class distributions are always uneven" *USSR ANTHEM PLAYS*

[@Spleemce]

Hahhahah

[@captain_hammer]

Heavy didn't have enough items and now he's mad...

[@fishum6483]

I like the concept that the more outlandish ones should each have a toned-down version which you can enable like pyrovision.

[@BenRocker32]

This actually aged fantastically

[@ForgottenT]

I installed TF2 earlier today, didn't even start up the game, and now youtube are recommending me this video when I've never been recommended, or watched TF2 videos..

[@IAm-zo1bo]

Just play dude it's fun i have over 200 hours in 2 months

[@WhiffiE_]

Google is watching

[@m0j026]

Did you keep playing or did the un-optimized mess that it is turn you off?

[@martinmarvinii3139]

Hope your having fun with it at least

[@AC-ox4mm]

I miss enjoying tf2

[@ArchieGamez]

Dead Meme same

[@ZERO-tv5zg]

then play it

[@cocojambooverheaven1623]

Star Male he says he misses enjoying it, not playing it.

[@D1ab0lical]

Markurrito Overwatch reminded me of how much fun TF2 is, because Overwatch definately isn't fun.

[@yomotoSan]

Because of the fact that it was released only a year ago, in comparison with TF2. And it already has all this cosmetic bullshit thing going on. I doubt it will last long, not for ten years for sure. The game is most certainly not that fun because of its toxic community. Even in freaking arcade I frequently meet people who whine when they see a Hanzo or Widow in their team or overall complain about their team being bad. Nobody's playing for fun, they play to earn lootboxes or SR (on custom arcade servers the situation is a bit better though). In TF2 you could, for instance, snipe each other on the 2fort balcony for ages and nobody would tell you to change the class or else they would leave.

[@kronkrian100]

This video has aged like a fine wine, especially when you consider stuff like "Grunt of the Litter" that have now sprung up on the workshop.

[@4thKaiser]

this aged well

[@TheBaconSmasher]

OH NO! OPINIONS! SAVE ME GABEN!

[@ifoundthisnewsite7805]

REEEEEEEE

[@HaxxorElite]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@thederpscoutreturns8709]

Okay, we get it.

[@takiller237]

Maybe...it's not death. Maybe...it's evolution. Maybe...sniff...maybe.

[@marcuscetina7905]

Ofc a style can evolve, as it should, but how are you going to defend a banana? Some of the new cosmetics look nice, a step forward in the evolution, but how do you defend 6:57?

[@takiller237]

In my opinion, for 6:57 we have to define ''stupid''. I will concede that players do wear cosmetics that deviate from the norm however, I personally feel that cosmetics really fit the cartoon comic-book style TF2 had going for it. TF2 is a zany,crazy, not-so-serious game to me. The absurd stuff in TF2 makes it so different from other games haha. I guess you could say stupid for one person is entertaining for another. As for the Potassium Bonnett , If you look at www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/#f=20 , the Halloweiner would be cannon to TF2 haha(although it's Halloween only). Sure some might think it kills the style but it's amazing to me that players can equip something from the comic they just seen. Of course the Potassium Bonnett it not part of the cannon and is player created, but I feel that it still kinda fits. If a hotdog is cannon, the banana is not too far off haha. I have played TF2 for 7 years. Back then we did not have trading and only a few hats. I have watched people like Shibby2142, Jerma985 , STAR_ , ikonakona , LazyPurple, FUNKe and more play TF2. It's heartwarming to see FUNKe make so many valid points with passion, keep it up!

[@cyaegha293]

its your opinion, so what you say is not true

[@Megajmaster1000]

momiji lily same goes for this video

[@ScruffySFM]

I have yet to meet one that could outsmart banana hat.

[@mrtux8330]

Funny how even after 6 years this video is still correct.

[@candidfob8423]

except for that fact that it isn't at all, yeah

[@McJuggins]

⁠@candidfod8423 me when I lie

[@ReiCaixa]

The problem with Spy dark clothes that I can't say if it's Blu or Red..

[@yeeeeeehawwwwww]

Potassium Bonnet: **Exists** Robin Walker: Yeah shutter glasses are pretty out there.

[@twingolord]

5:49 that is an actually forum, with an actual post that was actually made 10 years ago, that is actually *still* going

[@burritoman2k]

This video, even 6 years later, is still spot-on about the current state of cosmetics. I dunno how anyone can look at the absolute garbage that's been pumped into the game over the past several years and think that valve gives a damn about it

[@TF2CrunchyFrog]

I agree with you on disliking Valve's sudden decision to make tons of hats and cosmetic items (older items and new ones) all-class, and bemourning the lack of funny item descriptions caused by Valve adopting the stupid CS:GO cases with tiered "grades" design instead of the TF2 crates of old with their more "democratic" (presumably?) even drop chance for each hat. And 4:51 min is a damn shame: The long-sleeved jacked for the Heavy is fitted so that it and the hood belong together. I coudl live without the trousers if I had to, but the jacket not being put in is a damn shame, esp in light of the Heavy always getting way fewer items than Scout, Pyro, Engineer or Soldier. Some of the blame lies in the workshop having fewer Heavy items in general, but there are still many good ones. Just look at how long it took them to FINALLY give the Heavy a Hawaiian shirt... and it wasn't even the best one that was in the Workshop.

[@foopthehoop3103]

5:31 Incase someone wants to watch that again

[@somedecidueye7292]

You know, I never really noticed the odd style switch that TF2 underwent, even when I was playing it. It's weird how over the top the cosmetics got even by the Meet the Pyro update, plus cases seem just as... infuriating as ever. Is this really how bad items have gotten in recent years? Anyway, this is a fun video! Really calm and humorous discussion about the subject, and the subtle "It's Not Unusual" at 5:07 was great. Overall, this vide- 2:37 WAIT HE ACTUALLY MADE A STAND STATS SCREEN THE EFFORT PUT INTO THIS IS TOO GOOD

[@thederpscoutreturns8709]

I never have an Unusual, but I did get a Specialized Killstreak Frying Pan on the Steam Market. *has Decidueye in Pokemon Moon. Just beaten game last night... or the night before...*

[@ThomasMink]

I noticed it as soon as it was added to the game back during the Sniper/Spy update. And it only got progressively worse as time went on.

[@burntair56]

Well, I guess we know who likes bananas now

[@ScruffySFM]

@The Legend of Texas Get a life

[@shlumpd3045]

you mean we know who doesn't

[@alicesantos9469]

@@ScruffySFM what did he say tho

[@ScruffySFM]

@@alicesantos9469 I don't remember

[@alicesantos9469]

@@ScruffySFM oh dang

[@Skibidi_Fazbear]

This video was ahead of its time

[@apeep7634]

2:37 Cue the barrage of 'DURR IS THIS A JOJO REFERENCE??!!??!' Comments

[@csurfk1ng426]

A Dog yes

[@faceless2302]

well, is it a jojo reference?

[@adamrousseau9791]

Well.....it is....who hurt you?

[@nisala591]

*inhales* IS THAT A JOJO'S REFERENCE!

[@THATBRIGHTLINK0987]

What is Jojo?

[@valtroid]

wOW too opinionated -1/10

[@tythesmonk4819]

valtroid this will get pinned because you a potato

[@kukgod9196]

valtroid where the fuck are you?

[@punkly8423]

Valty is Salty part 2

[@AGenericAlias]

valtroid oh hey mum

[@ChuckNorris-xy7gu]

Upload more, or else this newly picked potato gets it! That's right. Upload more, or I shoot the little innocent potato. Its your choice.

[@sprongerthegreat3154]

The topic of this video has unfortunately aged too well. All the new cosmetics getting put in look awful and have no place in the art style. Video is great though and it still matches tf2s current cosmetic and warpaint market

[@yoshimasterleader]

3:18 How *do* I stop my *dog* from ruining my grass.

[@mitzapper2]

3:28 that has to be the most hilarious scout I have seen in my whole life xD

[@MegaPenguin-bl7hd]

As someone who's never played TF2, I have no idea what any of this was about, or why I watched the whole thing

[@user-md4nm6tb8d]

Same lol

[@sebastianalvarado7867]

the "It's not unusual" bit at 5:09 really got me!

[@ghostmangm3059]

"After 7 'What's new pussycat' s in a ROW ...Suddenly Dum ts nunum ts dum ts nunununununum It's not unusual"

[@michaelkaruza490]

FUNKe!! I have come from the future to tell you I really appreciate this video. I heard someone was trying to flame you on twitter or something but I think you made great points here.

[@jenn7893]

3:49 so did Scott pilgrim but no one ever talks about him

[@sauercrowder]

Well it's already him vs the world so I kinda feel like there's no reason for me to pile on ya know

[@kakolykia]

Whatever you say, Heavy's "ushanka" is a pure gold.

[@Teetumus]

Jesus fucking christ this game has changed since i left

[@wasdplayer]

shit happens, we leave shit behind, we move on.

[@thegreatesthigh1788]

You should never go back and go play overwatch

[@connormcgregor3616]

LunarErection That’s a downgrade

[@MsaneGaming]

Connor McGregor *Upgrade.

[@Cry-vp7ec]

2007 2017 ya I think it's going to change

[@thetoastedleaf2483]

"I'm pretty sure these weren't around before the seventies..." "Automail, *1923* germany

[@CongaYT]

That outro... is fucking perfect

[@sebiblasko8608]

Conga WHAT SONG IS IT??

[@Scoobertdoobert169]

Sebi Blasko Light years will burn by Ozma

[@sebiblasko8608]

Thanks alot dude!have a nice day=)

[@Scoobertdoobert169]

Sebi Blasko any time :)

[@LunarAce64]

I added everything up and here are the results. If he sold everything he opened, he would get: $50.65/25.15 Keys back at a $74.35/24.85 Key loss. If he kept at least 1 of each item (Strange Priority) then he would get: $19.33/9.6 Keys back at a $105.67/40.4 Key loss. If you want the best bang for your buck, then don't open crates, just buy items directly.

[@67tedward]

Crate opening just plays off of gambling highs in the same way that roulette does.

[@maplepuff2358]

But the items originate from the crates, meaning that if everyone followed this logic, there would be barely any items in circulation making them expensive. Which would cause people to buy crates and sell the items inside causing the price to go down, resulting in the circulation of items we have now. You can't buy the items off the mann co. Store as they don't sell new items through there anymore, you have to open crates.

[@Bobromil]

Well it's a gamble, you can easily make a profit if you get lucky. It's just lottery, you can buy items at market value or you can get the item for the price of a key and the box. Just gotta get lucky

[@Skullgobbler]

Almost 3300 hours in game, no aussies, no unus, and literally the most unlucky player ever (Crits at spawn and third degree strangefiers for life

[@maxresdefault_]

"do any of these characters like bananas?" Yep, this was before Jungle Inferno

[@Heavy_weapons07]

Funke and zesty warned us. But alas, the greedy dismiss them

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Apparently, funke no longer agrees with this video.

[@FUNKe]

I do agree with this video, I just don't like how many people use it as evidence of a big problem when in reality a lot of these things are arbitrary and subjective problems, and people use it that way because the video frames every problem as equally bad

[@Heavy_weapons07]

@FUNKe oh my..I never thought a person like you funke would comment here. I get Its not that big of a problem like the aimbot crisis. But it's just sad to see popular cosmetic creators disrespect the tf2 visuals, Desgin, and put no thought into it.

[@nullvoid3545]

@@Heavy_weapons07 *this* is why I feel calling these efforts "expression" is unreasonable. Effort could be put in, and thanks to our constant lobbying sometimes it is. But if this is going to change we are going to have to be very loud, because VALVE is L A Z Y and will not enforce quality unless we make enough noise to shake the outside perception. When variety streamers that don't play TF2 but like to mention how good it is for clout, start mentioning the lack of quality control *then* we might get someone to hold responsible. Then we can finally stop all the fighting, but for now things will continue to escalate in the usual TF2 community way.

[@ThunderTheBlackShadowKitty]

​@@FUNKe Like dude you're wrong though, these things absolutely are not arbitrary. These cosmetics are OBJECTIVELY BAD.

[@ZzAaCcHhepic]

That claidheamh mor nerdf really sucked

[@cheerfulpessimist952]

RIP Bison

[@oracidrep]

UnlimitedBreadWorks both are really unusable.

[@PivoteroIniciante]

cleaver.

[@3DMegaGamer]

When was the last balance update? Oh yeah, almost a year ago.

[@noloveishere]

hey, i really like kara no kyoukai too!

[@explosivecommando9100]

6:23 They mever fixed it. You have to manually choose the class with the numbers. But heavy is f****ed up

[@happysedits]

5:53 WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST FUCKIGN SAY ABOUT MY SULPHUROUS YOU LITLE FUNK!?!?!?!?!?!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@hyrw2951]

Burny | Happys Edits | TF2 Hey

[@mediocreturbulence5746]

Heavy likes bananas, he got the Second Banana as a lunchbox item and eats it without hesitation like a good boy

[@Tuskor130]

"Does anyone in this game like bananas" Laughs in heavy secondary

[@comrademuds1951]

He told us, he fucking warned us. And now look what happened. This is Valve's final punishment. The end is near.

[@rhanimation4123]

i just notices the thumbnail is a reference to the death of a salesman cover

[@generalgrievous5427]

This video is more relevant then it was 4 years ago

[@Jon_Cyber]

--I think I remember from Dane's trip video that the team is only like 5 people. One programmer, one writer, rest art people.-- Edit: I misheard.

[@im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username]

No, that's absolutely not the case. There's 16 people in total

[@digiquo8143]

im_sorry_i_forgot_my_username There's definitely not 16 people. It was confirmed like last year that there are only 3-5 people working on TF2 at any given moment. The variation there is probably due to the people that work on TF2 full time with some people who focus on other projects who occasionally come to work on TF2.

[@Drakkona123]

3-5 *programmers*

[@Teragat]

Valve said in an interview that there are about 15 people and 5 of those are programmers.

[@lilstjimmy]

As much as I like the egregious items, I can agree that the art style of TF2 has died over the years

[@villagecommenter8262]

And now, Scout can have two bodies. Without restrictions.

[@josht1526]

Such a relief that this vid is back on youtube. This is my favorite FUNKe vid

[@AnAbsurdExistence]

Non-Shingy Audino I’m so glad it’s back, it’s such an inspiration, makes me want to try even harder on my own videos

[@theUBERsashimi]

It's a video about complaining and then going back on your opinion at 6:59. That's what you look up to? Lel.

[@z39836]

@@theUBERsashimi I think what he meant to say by that was that even though these are problems, it's not like they're going to kill his enjoyment of the game or probably anyone's for that matter. Yes, taking that single line out of context does make him seem like he's contradicting himself but what he says after that line starts to paint a more clearer picture on why he said that

[@SnackPatrol]

What happened? Why was this taken down or whatever?

[@bevvvy1374]

@@z39836 Yeah but I mean it's still just an entire video dedicated to complaining about cosmetics in a F2P game. Besides majority of the stuff in the video isn't even objective. And that's not even bringing up how pretentious and clickbaity the title is.

[@Ddelsol47]

Tinder in a nutshell "We have this one, it's not out of place and it looks nice." R/Niceguys *_"thIS oNE's jUsT a BaNAHna"_*

[@jawa8883]

3:42 "editors note probably not factually correct" yeah, now it's 0.5 devs and 23 potted plants

[@Jackern465]

6:29 The Water Waders cosmetic that got added for pyro recentyl further ruins team recognition in the game, like what the hell, this issue needs to be addressed more

[@Lethal_Spoon]

aged quite literally like a fine wine. hopefully that remains true as this is the point in time where wine usually starts to go bad.

[@emissne]

man. that video name makes even more sense nowadays with workshop creators saying that they dont even care about if their cosmetic covers a large part of the character and is still paintable to such a degree that you can look like you are on an entirely different team, they only care about stuff that they want to do themselves. they only care about items that they want to use. at this point were not even in the death, were in the point of the artstyle rotting away in its coffin.

[@firebug7208]

To be honest, I'm less worried about things fitting time period wise, just more on "How would [blank] look if it was in this game and normalized in it's universe?" To a point though, because I'd fucking vomit if I saw an allclass taunt where a merc vapes while riding a hoverboard and checking how many bitcoins he had via some smartphone (Don't get any ideas.) It's more "Is the saturation right/Is it porportioned enough/Does the color palette fit?" That sorta deal. I sorta see the problem occuring commonly on the newer unusuals and (some of) the community made cosmetics. Not to say I avoid them like the plague, because I still see them as usable, it's just a tad awkward. But hey, that's what mat_phong 0 is for. (if you're not overly autistic with original color consistancies of the source materials like I am.)

[@icekitty11]

Scout would own a hoverboard if he could though and promptly roll it off a cliff

[@NikolasoGames]

I get it why execution is important but execution involves that maybe that outfit or hat doesn't fit that character, It doesn't exactly need to be of that "time period" as we know that some of the stuff in TF2 lore about technology are a bit more advanced because of Australium and Australia overall. In Tf2's case, that is very important as they've established a certain type for each character, also earlier cosmetics that represent the individual well and have better stories. If I was a professional comic creator, game creator, writer, film director, I wouldn't want that shit to happen and I don't understand why someone wouldn't care. It's just a mess and it shows that the art directors are really off track for some reason. Creating a charming character or atmosphere is something they need to care about, it brings people to the game and to stay.

[@marnieshaw8858]

My favorite funke vid of all time, hands down.

[@deerymoredeer]

I come back here every now and then each case, hoping to think you are wrong but no, this video holds up too well sadly

[@zardblade]

The video quality is very impressive, congrats man.

[@circlesho5645]

Love the points made and you're pretty accurate on all things reflecting crates. However for me and a lot of people the odd comical gimicky gauty cosmetics like the banana and the increasingly wackier unsuals and rarities only make me want to open crates more and these cosmetics, especially recent ones that aren't blue, have been a drawing back point into the game multiple times. Cheers.

[@ocularskewer1245]

fancy seeing you here, garth from lisa the painful.

[@sunbuYT]

The return of an artstyle. Some cosmetics look great these days and have so much quality attached to them. Sucks that we have 1-2 stinkers every case update, though.

[@HBender]

Funny how these items showed are mostly still fine compared to what got added now

[@solidice5660]

I like this FUNKes' art style more than the new FUNKe

[@purplehaze2358]

“Does anybody in this game like bananas” Heavy; *menacing nom nom noises*

[@BenjaminSteber]

Seven years ago we were complaining about the Pyro update not being out. Heavy update is just a joke at this point.

[@TheSealMayor]

Isnt the in game world of TF2 supposed to be a work of fiction? Like how Left 4 Dead is supposed to be a movie series

[@damianluna7700]

Well there really hasn't been any hints toward it being something like an act or story told by someone yet so only time will tell.

[@chinois11]

nah, it's obviously a documentary

[@coryclark9120]

I feel like it’s more of a comic series which were very popular in the 1950s and it fits with the cartoony aesthetics

[@SkylordSweddy]

TheSealMayor Not an excuse.

[@energeticyellow1637]

It was based off of spy movies and propaganda used during the 20th century, so...

[@iuxanu]

god, it's ben 4 years since june 2017? how time flies

[@BasicallyFrost]

When the gmod animator, kitty, died it really hurt. I absolutely loved his videos. Kitty will not be forgotten

[@ゆい-c2y]

Whenever I go to community servers there's always that one P2P that's literally a walking mush of particles

[@tarkcakr870]

Man normally stands: no thing will happened Man dancing: *summoning the ancient one effects*

[@electricvanilla2836]

they should have had the oculus look like it was powered by a CRT instead of an LCD, because its TF2 and then just add an oculus logo to the side