8.3 Cummins Threw a Rod in a Combine [EP1]

What do you do with a Case IH 2366 combine when the engine throws a rod?
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[@Cars.or.Cardioversion]

2 minutes in and this series already sounds like fun

[@zeppelin67637]

As a farmer, I lmao-ed at your description of a farmer. Praying for rain, praying for sun, praying for rain and sun. Praying for the rain to stop. Yup thats pretty much it in a nutshell.

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Knew the feeling when I was in construction.

[@akhuiz5088]

That donor truck used to deliver wood shavings to my farm

[@379insk]

Love these farm equipment jobs. Wish could have seen the Versatile tractor engine swap!!

[@fastinradfordable]

So often when I watch Deboss I ask my self. Am I even a mechanic? Am I even a man? Just what I need. Another existential crisis.

[@thomasmatejka7367]

😂😂

[@Shanidar1]

You are not alone mate.

[@travelingkaspersworld4096]

Great comments like that remind us of all the humor, fun, and good will that still fills this world. (We just have to crawl out of the tool box once in a while and laugh)

[@darrylvanrooy]

If you need a crisis in your life, watch Project Binky. Then you start thinking that you have the means to rebuild cars because you own a kettle and some biscuits. The phrase "How hard could it be?" starts circulating around your skull. Soon, you buy an old piece of junk and leave it sitting in your backyard for six months because you don't have a shed to work on it. But, I'm not having a mid-life crisis. You have them when you turn 40. I'm 53.

[@markarrington3869]

Even I have never "dropped" a motor. What

[@themilkman1784]

Late to the game Rich, we did this to a 2144 and a 5.9 a year ago 😉 with help from your videos of course. Thanks for all you do!

[@blown572hemi]

I was thinking of a 5.9 swap but I now know it’s clear that I’ve gotta have a 8.3 in my s10

[@chasewebber4316]

Itd be hard enough to fit and support a 5.9 in a s10 to begin with.

[@lucassvedlund3851]

chase webber i have a old Nissan kingcab 2,5 liter turbo diesel in my 99 s10 and that mechanical engine is taking up 97% of the engine bay so I don’t se how you would fit a 5,9 in there?

[@chasewebber4316]

@@lucassvedlund3851 I dont believe I said u could. Most definitely not a 8.3 lmao.

[@austinkirkham485]

BS give me a torch, a welder, and some metal. We can make it fit. It might not be pretty but she'll fit alright lol

[@alexandermckay8594]

What kind of a wimp are you? Go straight to a N14. Now THAT's displacement!

[@ohnoitisnt]

That steering hackup is both extremely ghetto and genius. I can see why it was a scary one haha

[@samkowalski392]

Thank god the starter survived. Now all we need is a whole new motor and we can save the starter!

[@reverandhale863]

Sam Kowalski well if he didn’t have a starter he would have to order one or wait to buy one. Makes it easier to have a good one on hand

[@peterfitzpatrick7032]

@@reverandhale863 whoosh !! 🙄😂

[@CumminsDriver100]

Lol modern day intelligence I guess? Haha.

[@motownsailor7204]

Reverand Hale LOL. Do you by chance vote Democrat too?

[@StormLaker]

I work at a Cummins shop......I deal with this stuff daily, yet I love to sit here and watch your videos at home (when I am not working), haha.

[@TheCanadianBubba]

15:40 We all know that feeling... somehow my lady can hear the sound of a beer opening in my hand anywhere within 50km and the call comes within 30 seconds of that.

[@elljay4587]

TheCanadianBubba that's funny, I thought I was the only one with that problem.

[@allservicemailroom1191]

My old lady has the same keen sense of hearing. Its amazing from 100km away she hears a Blue Star pop and phone rings " Wadda at? Your not sittong around your buddy's shed doing nothin' all day, again, are you?" Yet when I need a towel from the closet because is freakin February she never seems to hear me. Odd innit?

[@morgansword]

That is a world record, two engines pulled and head pulled in seventeen minutes plus eleven seconds to introduce everyone, I couldn't pressure wash one in that time/LOL. I am looking forward to this finish..... painted, air conditioning charged with a tag on the engine that says Deboss Rebuild!!

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

No movie magic. You are right, this was a live stream!

[@tallone09]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE The magic off KZbin.

[@boostaddict_]

Combine engines are great in trucks. My dad used to have a 1988 GMC 2500 squarebody. It was a huge truck, 3+3 with a long bed. Only a 2WD but that's all we need. He pulled a 6.354 out of an old Dodge medium duty truck and put it in the GMC. My neighbour has about 4 White combines and a couple White tractors with the same engine, just a different injection pump. That truck kept going when other trucks would have been dead for years. We finally got rid of it after it had a slight issue. Went to get a load of hay, before we left it sounded really bad but we were only going a couple blocks so we went anyways. Checked the compression when we got back, 0 compression on one hole and 250 psi on the rest. Rebuild spec is 400 psi. After that we got a 94 F250 with a 7.3 IDI, it sucked. Now we have a 98 Ram 2500 with a 12v. It's pretty nice.

[@Panburns]

That Uncle Rod is a party pooper 😂

[@gethinjones1348]

Fantastic video Rich, love all the different machines that you get into and share on the channel.

[@Erated78]

Always a fun video when tractors are involved. Thanks Rich, looking forward to part II cheers

[@gilbertfranklin1537]

This is a perfect video for Rich to show off - as he apparently knows every single part involved in the engine swap, is fearless enough to tow it backwards down a busy road, and has the appropriate slapstick sense of humor for KZbin viewers. It is doubtful that you could find any other channel with that combination that also has 355K subscribers just waiting for the next post. The algorithms must be screaming for this to be a long series... Huzzah! 😎💲👍

[@lllateralus]

My diesel pusher coach has an 8.3 Cummins ISC with 106,000 miles and it’s fantastic. Great motor.

[@nbrowser]

Finally Cummins is putting inspection windows in the blocks!

[@Duckbellly]

Man, Uncle Rodney always has the best Knock Knock jokes!😂

[@justinmartin8887]

Nice. Just got done parting a sterling 3406e last week. We where after the frame rails to put in another truck. Tough but interesting work. Buy yourself a pneumatic rivet buster they are icing on the cake alongside the torch for demolition

[@ericvaughn8741]

Back when I worked on marine cummins , we made a slide hammer from old injector lines / nuts , a long bolt and a heavy wrist pin , worked great for pulling injectors in the tight quarters of a boat

[@kunu98]

I love watching stuff like this. Nothing like it and can’t beat how you film and take us along

[@UncleBubbles94]

I had a thought once, combine engines have the worst life. They sit and sit and usually never get run for 10-11 months out of the year, then they are fired up and run wide open under full load for 16 hours a day lol. Had this thought while I was feeding ether into an 860 Massey to get her running for the season lol

[@Zach-ju5vi]

Hahaha I'm glad I'm not to only one running old shitty equipment, those Perkins engines are damn tough thought.

[@evolati12]

“Uncle RODney came over”! Damn I like that! Never heard it before!!!

[@zjeepgozweeln]

JB Weld that block, hammer that cam shaft straight again, toss in an unobtanium connecting rod and a couple new piston pull-back springs and she'd be up and running again.

[@carsonfleetwood572]

I really enjoy the way you edit your videos and your judicious use of time lapse.

[@johnronsmith]

That combine has been sitting for more than the summer, or they just never clean the thing, they don't get that nasty in a season. Also never understood why they run the engine so fast in those combines, everything is ran off a gearbox so some re-gearing would bring the engine RPMs back to a safe speed and still run the machine correctly.

[@MFKR696]

They run at the RPM where peak-power is being put out. There's nothing inherently unsafe about it, unless it's not being maintained or used properly, which was certainly the case with that Combine. The engine was literally set up to run at that RPM pretty much all the time. The only real fault I can find with that setup is the lack of a push-pull fan setup. The A-Pump setup can be problematic, but it's not impossible to keep an A-Pump equipped engine going. It just needs more care than its P-Pump equipped brethren. More gear-reduction = more torque multiplication, so running the engine at peak-power and heavily reducing it is the only way to go. In basic terms, it's the same kind of thing you would see with any other kind of industrial machinery, like bulldozers, scrapers and excavators, for instance. With the engine running at peak-power through multiple reduction stages, you can literally move mountains.

[@RedDeadSpearhead]

In actually they run at about 2200-2400 rpm, but they're not like a truck that goes through gears and cruises at a lower rpm despite maxing at around 3000, they run that rpm alllll day, they just sit there and drive a hydraulic drive right off the crank that powers everything, they need to be very meticulously maintained to keep running correctly. Source: i have a 2366 on the farm i work, and we just had a spline shaft sheer the teeth off they hydraulic pump because it was never greased, thank christ there is an intermediary between the crank and the pump. Also worth noting, hydraulic pump, hydrostatic drive.

[@David-xl8zf]

@@MFKR696 I´m guessing they just did what he described to kill the engine, with pinching the waste gate line off. The jeezless diaphragm box is the worst thing ever. I don´t know how many of these I´ve changed on our coop until we ultimately got new bines and tractors. As Rich said, they come faulty from the factory...

[@nolanmitchell7319]

Da vid I never knew they where hydrostatic no wonder there so damn loud driving down the road

[@David-xl8zf]

@@nolanmitchell7319 Just the easiest way of getting something driving slowly while still maintaining engine power to run all the implements.

[@TheCustomEverythingChannel]

Other guy: my forklift want go that high DEBOSS: hold my torque wrench.

[@gasperajdnik5627]

Haha Nice 👍

[@nolanstark9683]

Before you go cutting the cam gear try the wooden dowl trick. Get 12-1/2" round dowels and tap them into all the lifters. Then pull up on each cylinders pair of lifters and rubber band them up. When all 12 are up the cam pulls right out

[@craigtate5930]

Ouch, big hole. I have seen some interesting things in my life, but never a combine towed backwards with the steering hooked up to the tow vehicle. I LOVE IT! Why didnt I think of that.lol

[@tomcardale5596]

We had that happen to a forage harvester where I used to work. It didn't help that the Mercedes engine was very slightly modified from the truck version (so a replacement was pricey) and turned up from 400 to 500hp (at the factory). My old boss is still using the con rod as a paperweight.

[@scottyknot7403]

Ahh finally, new videos means new knowledge!! Love the content man!

[@friguy4444]

Oh man these are never long enough. I guess they always want to leave us wanting more LOL. Now we have to wait. Crap. Love the Deboss Channel and Content is tops!

[@jaronking9484]

I'm stoked. I've got a 97 freightliner Fl70 with the 8.3 Cummins and a 6 speed. Truck is real reliable way better then the other FL70 we got with the 3126 CAT

[@yamahonkawazuki]

cool that had the ventilated crankcase option.

[@adrianspeeder]

"Shake hands with danger, be the one to get it done. It takes two pieces of equipment to move this machine, but I can do it with one."

[@andrewduff4719]

I’d love that combine here on my farm !

[@freddexta3363]

Well he did say it was going to be for sale. I'd love to trade mine for a green one though.

[@michaelhicks6206]

Will have to change the injectors with the pump and lines don't forget to put a new rear main seal and cover on the engine going back in

[@piperdoug428]

Yeah we had the big Iveco motor in the NH CX8080 do an impression of the guy in Alien.1. and CNH told us there was a batch that had an issue with over fueling to a cylinder and hydraulic-ing the side right out the motor, $34,000 of a slight issue, asshats tried to get out the warranty by saying "because it happened on the road between feilds it wasn't in normal working conditions" but it got sorted.

[@emilschw8924]

Are we having fun yet? Can't wait for the second part of this.

[@Gantzz321]

little JB Weld should have that thing running good as new

[@ih1206]

Looks like a good project. Those vintage of Case IH combines were pretty popular in this area. Most guys have our grown then or traded them off to keep up with the Jones’. As long as the rotor and the rest of the threshing unit is in good shape, she’ll make someone a fine combine again.

[@hokie9910]

Truly is unbelievable how much money is wasted on constantly buying new equipment.

[@mongo1200]

We just did the head gasket in our 2366 this summer. The 8.3 is notorious for head gasket issues. I would bet that was the underlying cause of the rod deciding to leave.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

to me it looks like oil starvation. If Rich said what happened to it, I missed it.

[@mongo1200]

@@Zach-ju5vi very likely. We noticed ours was starting to go when we found water in the oil. We caught it soon enough.

[@jordanmpaul]

I've only seen 2 8.3s have catastrophic failures. Not sure why it would be considered common. And if you're overheating you probably need to clean out the rad, coolers, and put new brushes on the rotary air screen.

[@GIGABACHI]

Looking forward to the next episode ! Good job, guys ! 👍🏻👌🏻😎

[@bill2001]

hell yeah. DEBOSS is the best

[@jessename7849]

Interesting, didn't think about being able to use hydraulics to run the steering to pull dead machines. Great info! On the cooling side you should see if there's a coolant bypass for the rear (#6 cylinder) of the block. Cummins made them for the b-series, there's also aftermarket ones too. Also a waterless coolant could be an improvement & worthwhile.

[@Bolindermunktellvolvo]

more tractor videos! Best regards from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@urfaceisinmyhouse]

I rebuilt an 8.3 from a Case wheel loader for a Case 2388 combine. So many differences for “the same engine”

[@Trentonborr]

I clean combines at my work and it scares me to death getting in those engine compartments to clean it, 2012 s690

[@privateparty4900]

I guess you know you're getting old when a neglected piece of equipment ready to be junked "looks like one of them new ones."

[@ryanfisher6402]

Looks like a battering ram!

[@longobardir]

I've got a use for that hydraulic PTO!!! I'm building a 4x4 rig and want to be able to power hyd. accessories.

[@warrenfowler996]

Another great video Rich, better than all that other scripted crap put together, keep em coming, from England

[@jameswilliams-rc9hj]

having pulled a cotton picker backwards before I can guarantee the 3 guys in the picker cab trying to steer it would of loved the hydraulic line idea.

[@bigsasquatch7027]

Id like to see someone put one of those 8.3 lliter engines in a pickup

[@mostlymoparih5682]

Good stuff. Happy Motoring and Happy Combine ing.

[@OEMPARTS_UFA]

Great harvester!

[@davidclark4390]

If Rich can't do it , it can't be done. Take Care be Safe.

[@timubel5751]

That trans looks like an eaton 8LL because of the blue range shifter on the side

[@brandoncherry1651]

I love watching these swaps 😁😁😁😁

[@schwags1969]

8.3 is my bread and butter. Funny to see one in such bad shape ;)

[@braaapattack2937]

I know it’s been a warm winter, but wow I didn’t think it was that much warmer a couple hours west of me 😂

[@barbershoppodcast]

Casey from O'Neils in Binbrook probably sold it to him new or new/used.

[@justinschmicker1049]

Your going to have issues. We have a block that was for a truck in the shop and we pulled the old head because it was aftercooled in the tractor. We had the head rebuilt that way we knew there was no issues. Pulled the front cover that holds the pump cause the p-pump cover won't work. Next issue we ran into were the sleeves, and the new sleeves were taller that the ones that came out of the truck block. Only thing we can figure is the original 8.3 that was in the tractor had a taller casted block than the block from a truck. Last I knew we were waiting on different sleeves to come in so they can finish it, get it in the customers tractor and get it out of the shop.

[@heavy_haul_n_fool]

Use the pto to spin a generator just saying

[@kaseymccleary946]

Kevin is a Canadian farmer that knows how to wrench...let's see more of Kevin.

[@BitterCynical]

With how much computer stuff there is in new equipment and how difficult and expensive it is becoming to keep it all running, a lot of old "junk" could start going up in value enough to be revived. If right to repair gets passed in the US then perhaps it won't be that common but manufacturers are clearly pushing for less user serviceable stuff and more planned obsolescence. Louis Rossmann is a macbook repair specialist and he's making some videos about right to repair, and some of the discussion is also about farm equipment and what a pita it is for farmers to deal with companies like John Deere.

[@SqueakyTron]

This same thing happened to my grandpa combine 6 years ago who had a combine just like this one

[@jeffcanyafixiy]

Are you FREAKIN kiddin me!! You are a man among men. Just incredible, I'd have run from that, really run. 👍👍👍

[@willierepairone5389]

The commentary, Is epic !

[@danf4616]

Ontario in Jan and no snow on the ground!!?? WTH 😜

[@jamesbeemer7855]

Yeah , a tow bar would help .

[@CloudHindlen]

Hey Rich i like your idea about the pto driven 4x4 you may be able to change the gear reduction on the pto and make it work. I would like to see if you can make it work.

[@mattcoy2817]

Check input shaft on PTO housing seen splines have wear and wear on the end of shaft for pilot bearing

[@AndrewBrowner]

you really get your use out of that 5" milwuakee engine removing tool, maybe a comparison with the new 6" if you can get your hands on it

[@williamcreighton9863]

I believe the 8.3s in combines had a different piston and ring package, due to oil consumption in high rpm motors

[@RadDadisRad]

I want to see a 8.3 swapped truck.

[@KSA-uu8js]

Use the chandelier chain to pull the combine boss!

[@idrisddraig2]

Same engine as in the Pisten Bully 240 I used to drive/maintain.

[@RJEvans44]

Oh yeah, this is what Im here for

[@RJEvans44]

From experience, if you go down hill, with your final drive disconnected, wear your cowboy hat.

[@Iowa599]

Just put tiny tires on the front axle!!! (to compensate the speed difference)

[@joevaagen6170]

Am I the only one who noticed the hydraulic cylinder on the forklift boom loosing pressure.

[@Adam-bw4lw]

Its not excessive tho,not worth fixing it at this point

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

That's the auto lower feature for when you install the engine by yourself

[@joevaagen6170]

@@DEBOSSGARAGE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Good video guys

[@leinie6683]

why was the donor truck scrapped? Its nice when Uncle Rod knocks on the door- but sometimes hes drunk and pissed off and kicks it in

[@leol1682]

Like the video Rich keep it cummins .

[@timamyett9679]

I know that towing situation could make you bite your fingernails into stumps. There many a time I have towed or hauled something and was still jittery hours afterward.

[@Zach-ju5vi]

Love seeing you work on farm equipment, I can relate.

[@rickycollins4633]

Disassemble a 6.7 ford today come to find out the rocker arms and pushrods separated and found out that the plastic device tasked with holding my damn lifters inline with my damn camshaft broke so now it turns into a total dissemble, heads, front to camshaft, lifters, rocker arm sets because they wore and dropped the ball bearing that it runs on which I thought was the original problem. When I looked down in the pushrod area I knew that it was over. The lifters had ejected the tips on the individual lifters where my pushrods had thrown off and of coarse the lifters had turned on a roller cam and we now what that means. Sorry for the ramble. I like working On bigger engines.

[@donvoll2580]

Good day I am not even a half ass mechanic but I was at a generator place & there was a 4 cyl. cummins sitting there with hole on side of motor #4 cyl & cam shaft was broke same way, kinda odd. Good video Thanks

[@AliMackMechanical]

Ach am sure you will have it running soon buddy good work so far.👍

[@Romuls753]

I wonder what it'd take to swap a P7100 pump onto an 8.3 Cummins for off-road usage, I mean the 8.3 would make more power from the get go as compared to a 5.9

[@Omri.Collects]

Great video!! Excited to watch!!

[@gunnerstanwick6663]

I would love the hydro pump from the truck

[@farmyardfab]

2366 is a extremely good machine

[@bluebird5100]

More footage of the shop kitty.

[@brandonfloyd6321]

My brother bought a 1680 with the 466 that had been ran low coolant and turns out the intake manifold had a huge hole rotted in it also. Rebuilt and it burnt a month ago hes gonna have to pull it 8 or 10 miles like u just did.

[@hillsidetreeservice6973]

I could use that pump!

[@chloekaftan]

You guys are so lucky that you didnt need to hack into the combines computer to get it working, many agricultural machines nowadays are so computer heavy that its nearly impossible to fix them without taking them to the dealership, and fixing the machine on your own often voids your warranty and the dealership wont touch your machine with a ten foot pole even if you pay them, which is why the "Right to Repair" Movement is sooo important, it may be good for phone repair or Tesla repair, but its absolutely essential for agricultural machine repair, many farms have gone bankrupt just because they cant fix their own machines.