Debunking Conspiracy Theories Around Trump’s Assassination Attempt | WSJ

[@wsj]

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[@JJONNYREPP]

Top Conspiracy Theories Around Trump Assassination Attempt Debunked | WSJ 1242PM 16.7.24 dare we just say for parity's sake: FAKE NEWS, BUBBA. FAKE NEWS!!!!

[@goat7844]

Wall Street Journal you must be crazy to believe we the USA people put 100% trust in y’all reporting. You are own by Jeff Bezo.

[@JJONNYREPP]

@@goat7844 Top Conspiracy Theories Around Trump Assassination Attempt Debunked | WSJ 1301pm 16.7.24 ....doesn't really matter much who owns what as personal agendas are the thing with these media capers... you might be the most liberal and libertarian egg on the planet but when the chips are down you adhere to one thing alone - circulation figures and sell your wares accordingly. no one wants broadsheet news with erudite chaps spouting vast tracts of knowledge..... they want capers such as this - giving doubt to a, what is, iconic moment in visual history. most of the audience are heavily into big blocks of colour and simple truths.

[@NemeanLion-]

@@goat7844lol, go back to believing in unicorns then.

[@LophoWilli]

Roughly 99% of what you guys report on, is lies. Only stupid people trust the Wall Street journal

[@BrutalCross]

Anybody who thinks this is fake because the gun sounded like a BB gun obviously knows nothing about guns

[@wendycoulter9122]

They don’t even know anything about BB guns lol

[@Censortubes]

That proves they don’t even know BB guns alone.

[@hi12235]

That was me at first but I live in the uk and only see guns in movies

[@pepinillorick5741]

Yeah

[@jimmyhoward5411]

Anybody that knows anything about actual shooting, knows how hard it is to even glaze a moving target beyond beyond 25ft. Only a fool would believe this story

[@onelohan]

The fact that he was able to get so close is really the most suspicious part of this whole thing.

[@hujake5406]

P

[@222Lightning]

PP

[@Raps-2k]

Facts

[@bliglum]

The fact that he knew to climb onto the only unsecured rooftop, which the director of the secret service had deemed "too sloped". Well, that makes it even more suspicious..

[@RusaJantanChannel]

trump not get security like a president,he just have secret service its fact,maybe miss communication in the field betwen guard and assasin

[@gh0st_proxy]

A lie can run around the world before the truth can get its boots on.

[@vickygoddard3884]

Sad, but true!

[@mishmashmedley]

*pants _A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on._ _--------Winston Churchill_

[@LReno-di9cm]

Pants on. Mark Twain.

[@Syo-tc7kl]

What?

[@eddyblackmore4188]

GNU Terry Pratchett

[@raulgarcia-ol6xd]

No one saw him carrying a ladder not even the men on the roof tops over looking every thing??? Impossible!!!

[@user-SahmJuanElse]

Thomas Crooks was wearing an invisibility cloak which is why he wasn't seen. I went to Lowe's asking for a 5 foot rally ladder and they were all out. When querying a DNCP site (Democrat National Communist Party) site they found it threatening. I told them I would tell our handyman to not show up any ladders just to be safe. ( Me smiling)

[@candyc.3163]

He didn’t carry a ladder or need one. He climbed onto the air conditioning unit and onto the roof.

[@hong-chichou4890]

“Loud noises” is the largest misinformation.

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

Yeah, and "fell on stage". But they wont out their colleagues from the main stream media when they lie their butts off, just try and blame it on X.

[@ChelseySmithHandle]

Why? Or are you implying the noises were not loud? Or are you just being daft, and stating a loud noise can only be labeled as a loud noise iff it's not a gun shot?

[@iwritethehooks]

​@@ChelseySmithHandle shut up

[@daveisbrill]

​@@ChelseySmithHandleyou are being obtuse. Gunshots should be described aa gun shots, NOT aa loud noises. Accuracy matters.

[@Digger-Nick]

​@@ChelseySmithHandle Purposely disingenuous is basically lying my guy

[@dpharr100]

What's not a conspiracy is that the secret service is corrupt or incompetent

[@user-me1lj5ur5t]

The moment you hear FBI ... the story became a story

[@sonnypruitt6639]

@@zebrazxx AHH SHADDUP!!!

[@BigAndTall1020]

I agree! And neither is an ideal truth

[@kalayne6713]

No black Secret Service? All the pretty, young female agents with loose pony tails...no self respecting agent wears their hair out like that as it is easily grabbed. All for show, all of it.

[@LoveAdelina219]

Exactly

[@kitcat4512]

Those who shout most about 'misinformation', spread it every day.

[@janeg8274]

AMEN!!!!!

[@MawcDrums]

That's stupid logic and you know it.

[@gdiwolverinemale4th]

@@MawcDrums We don't know that. In fact, he is absolutely correct. But we can make a clear assessment of the meant al capabilities from your comment

[@barbaraknight4203]

You know your people

[@MawcDrums]

@@gdiwolverinemale4th So all of the Trump people who claim everything the mainstream media says is misinformation are the BIGGEST purveyors of misinfo? Hmm I might be able to be persuaded on that actually.

[@kellahobbs9232]

The SS is found guilty for not securing the grounds. Honestly not sure if the SS had anything to do with it , BUT when the Director said the building roof was too Steep, that is laughable. The Roof is almost Flat.

[@shoujahatsumetsu]

If you read up on WW2, you'll find out the SS was guilty for a lot more than that.

[@t.j.e.h.7099]

@@shoujahatsumetsu He mean the Secret Service (SS), dude.

[@frodomocho1211]

@@t.j.e.h.7099 LOL 😂😂 Some folks need things spelled out better!

[@MetalGrrrl]

⁠​⁠@@t.j.e.h.7099I think he’s trying to point out the fact that using the initialism “SS” for the Secret Service maaaaybe isn’t the best idea…

[@MetalGrrrl]

@@frodomocho1211, ​​⁠I think you might need it spelled out, actually: it’s spelled, “S-A-R-C-A-S-M”…lmao.

[@ThePopeII]

“You’re not allowed to spread misinformation! That’s our job.” Sincerely, Mainstream Media

[@whatsup7535]

😂😂😂

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Didn't Mischa Brzezinski basically say that on live tv?

[@wheelmanstan]

SO TRUE!

[@markgarrett3647]

The Misinformation Stream Media

[@gonzothegreat9526]

DUMP IS MISINFORMATION 😂😂

[@gregoryt8792]

Mainstream media should be ashamed, but they’re not.

[@theevermind]

Being ashamed requires a conscience.

[@serioustoday]

all media even yours

[@Digger-Nick]

​@@serioustodayNot anywhere near this degree my guy

[@omi_god]

Give us an example of a mainstream media "lie", won't you?

[@frankgambrel1683]

@@theevermindexactly

[@leonmontenegro9]

WSJ talking about misinformation is so ironic

[@decashproject]

Thanks broo, what genuine information have WSJ got on this cause it's their responsibility as media House to provide reliable information to the public.

[@Noahloveless1]

It's typical leftie projection.

[@noxplay4906]

@@mark7527 When a Dutch person is more aware of America's political landscape than half of the American nation lol

[@noxplay4906]

Reminder that Blackrock and Vanguard are significant shareholders of Dow Inc., the company that owns WSJ. And that Crooks was in one of their ads. Couple this with all the suspicious and unbelievable details of the attempt, like how a bunch of normal people saw the shooter and reacted first before Secret Service, and it's hard to not be suspicious They really do think we're stupid 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@noxplay4906]

Reminder that Blackrock and Vanguard are significant shareholders of Dow Inc., the company that owns WSJ. And that Crooks was in one of their ads. Couple this with all the suspicious and unbelievable details, like how a bunch of normal people saw Crooks and reacted first before Secret Service, and it's hard to not be suspicious They really do think we're stupid 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jaanth314]

"We know they are lying. They know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. We know that they know that we know they are lying. And still they continue to lie." -Alexander Solzhenitsyn Talking about you, WSJ, in case it isn't obvious.

[@stuartryan610]

So that's the truth 😁

[@ericaulbach]

Truth!

[@donnywilliamson5807]

I thought that was from FRIENDS

[@stuartryan610]

@@jaanth314 no idea. Prefer big band theory

[@andyj845]

💯

[@burrellinvestments5952]

Didn't address the fact everyone saw him but the secret service and tried to tell them and ignored it..

[@Benjamin-1776]

Well that isn’t a conspiracy theory now is it? Why would that be in this video?

[@indiathylane2158]

_Does_ seem to debunk the claim by the bearded guy in the Trump hat that he told LEOs 15 minutes before the shots. But hey, he got his 15 minutes of fame and Trump adulators everywhere will shake his hand and pat his back.

[@danimotherofchickens479]

That's not a conspiracy theroy it happened, they knew about him and didn't protect trump

[@phrog849]

Yeah this is the most obvious and logical of the theories but everyone keeps talking around it.

[@nomoresaul]

@@phrog849It’s not even a theory. A theory is an unproven idea based on supporting facts. The secret service and local police being incompetent isn’t a theory, it’s what happened.

[@willmitchell6521]

Conspiracy theories exist because of conspiracies

[@topologyrob]

The vast majority of which are dumb made up nonsense like Qanon.

[@thorstrebla980]

The FBI has said that there are likely more people involved. Also known as...a conspiracy.

[@hu3v0s]

The media has mastered the misinformation, that's the reason no one believes what they spread😂😂😂😂

[@dubuis69]

There's video and evidence, can't call that conspiracy

[@edofluit6568]

no because of ignorant people

[@wanderingquestions7501]

And why would we trust WSJ to debunk anything?

[@lethargicastengah572]

They think they got the narrative pinned now and wanna act like its concrete

[@Smedley1947]

It's owned by Rupert Murdoch same guy that owns Fox.

[@youtubeisassho8834]

​@@Smedley1947Rupert Murdoch is 93, and stepped down from his position of control at Fox late last year. Also, he has no control of WSJ's editorial process, and is certainly not involved in the curating of stories for their YT page, but nice try, galaxy-brain. 😂

[@augmentation9486]

@@youtubeisassho8834 wow thanks!

[@JKnksrsly]

​@@youtubeisassho8834*adjusts glasses* "akkkshualllllly......" Puh-lease. He's definitely one of the bad ones. The editorial process is not independent at any of these places. Project mockingbird? the system is protected from without by midwits

[@HavendaleBlvd80]

Secret service head publically stated the roof was not secured because "the slope was not safe for service members." The more she speaks, the more this operation seems organized.

[@captaindanger13]

meanwhile there's an image of a cow on a similar style of roof i saw in a youtube video. if a cow can do it, so can secret service.

[@brianbice1427]

But the secret service where on a similar roof

[@HavendaleBlvd80]

@brianbice1427 it appear to have a steeper slope than the roof they allowed the shooter on to.

[@TheAutumnWind_RN4L]

​@@captaindanger13 lol.

[@nextup1864]

Misinformation...the mainstream media's specialty.

[@sterlingmarshel6299]

and truth social, tic toc and FB specialty

[@karenkoe7096]

@@sterlingmarshel6299 Youleft out FOX, Newsmax and assorted wingnuts like Bannon, Jones and Limbaugh.

[@Capohanf1]

AND the WSJ IS A MASTER AT IT!!!!!!!!!

[@JorisVanGossem-wn4bz]

And what about cnn and Washington post 🤫

[@HecticGlenn]

Originally yes, but hugely superceded by social media. Lets be honest...

[@yking8565]

Quick to surround him? BS, what about the following information: - sniper had the shooter in scope for +40 seconds before he took shots and only after the guy took several shots - several ppl from audience warned about the guy with a gun on the roof +3 minutes before the shots, nothing happened - how was this roof not secured and watched so that even random bystanders notice it first? This is a basic security check in every book.

[@estelalumbreras8155]

I believe because the middle section of security is done by LOCAL authorities. Roger Stone was secretly recorded saying that MAGA was not prepared for the 2020 election but that they ARE PREPARED for 2024. That Trump and MAGA have Trump Loyalists identified … Judges, Attorneys, bureaucrats, etc. across the nation. Why do they need that? Because they are corrupt. Trump loyalists do whatever Trump tells them to do. This is a Trump inside job just like January 6th was an inside job. Trump told local authorities to STAND BACK AND STSND BY. Trump staged this and knew there was no danger except their own fabricated danger.

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

And your source is?

[@miniclubman99]

​@@buildmotosykletist1987😂anyone playing FPS shooter game will know to check the spot U r talking hundred of millions of player whole world

[@dasdude6561]

have you read them books?

[@paulthomas963]

Oh it gets worse, there are reports the police noted him as suspicious and photographed him 26 minutes before he fired. And were told to do nothing.

[@MarkJones-yu1rs]

Your top priority right now should be finding a book 25 Money Secrets From Donald Trump, reading it will change your life, trust me

[@aderangedmonkey24]

Botted

[@anonymouscitizen123]

Please send link for book

[@peonyflowers23]

He filed for bankruptcy four times, what new secrets does he have? 😂😂😂

[@GSozei]

Thankyou, Thankyou, and Thankyou.

[@barthanson3043]

Do you have a link to the pdf please.

[@WesleySnipes3568]

Good thing we have “The Wall Street Journal” to clear up any “conspiracy theories….”😂

[@anthonybottigliero8336]

Owned by Rupert Murdoch…

[@fish509b]

Sit this one out WSJ. Your days as a reliable source are over

[@TheParadisecove]

ding..ding...ding..we have a winna!!

[@terri6854]

You're good at unintentional irony, fish boy, lol.

[@ttaylor758]

Far more reliable than any “mainstream” network, especially the loons at MSNBC

[@blondiewilliams5572]

#FACTS....

[@Fooney1]

Been over.

[@roberthobo4871]

Just investigate. why was he there for 1 min 26 seconds seen by spectators and not secret service.

[@Squirrely1]

4 minutes

[@SpottopsNL]

Once the investigation is finished, there will be probably be a good reason given that you will then ignore.

[@rogergeyer9851]

If you'd bother to watch real news instead of conspiracy theory nonsense, there IS going to be a FORMAL investigation and lay it all out. But that takes TIME. Like air accident investigations. To do it RIGHT takes time, science, evidence, fact checking, etc. Not screeching about a conspiracy with zero basis.

[@--Valek--]

@@SpottopsNL it will without a doubt be obvious bullsh that you will accept unquestioningly

[@Lola_Santoro]

@@SpottopsNL You mean there WILL be lies. You people are so daft!

[@eaglerider1826]

There are so many unanswered questions . How did the shooter know beforehand that there would be no secret service on that roof . How is 150 yards outside of the secret service containment area . Why were there two counter snipers on the same roof . Where were the drones that are usually used . Why wasn't Trump moved from the stage when the officer confronted the man on the roof ?

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

That last question is the most critical one, imo. I mean WHY didn't the cop immediately call in to warn the secret service about it so that they could immediately remove Trump from the podium?

[@tiffanyciafre3784]

Right and how on Earth is it a coincident that he was in a Blackrock ad. Blackrock just pulled it too. Blackrock has been tied to the deep state. They have their hands in everything

[@direwolf6234]

where's the blood ?? none on hand & neck .. where's the medical reports ??

[@mathyeuxsommet3119]

​@@GillAgainsIsland12The cops see "unusual activities" as they described pretty much every political rally and unfortunately in America the communication system between local agency and the federal ones isn't instantaneous.

[@delaineyjohnson8238]

Some vulnerable wannabe was used as a tool to belong by the FBI, Secret Service and Biden Admins who don't want a fair vote in America.

[@andrewrogers9236]

Sad time in this country.

[@jc-tu6pg]

This is misinformation, not conspiracy theories

[@Johnny5]

Yes, this video is misinformation and misdirection!

[@brandonburns5365]

​@@mikeboydusname one that involves the government

[@jen9214]

@@brandonburns5365name one that doesn’t.

[@DonaldDeCicco]

Your own brain is what's supposed to deal with "misinformation".

[@user-lp5wb2rb3v]

@@mikeboydus Often have truth to is but twisted slightly. The worst lie is the one with truth mixed in

[@vincentwhite9603]

What a waste of time watching this 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@user-gx5qu4rr3p]

You can say that again I believe in God and God is sitting high and looking low let's all go out and vote and leave it in God's hands

[@alwynsmit3546]

Same as most of the videos about this subject. Clickbait, all of them

[@jacford]

Trump can do it again as he did it before, uniting the world in peace and resolving conflicts in the world and making America great. 4 years have passed in conflict, disputes, blood, killing, and wasted opportunities for negotiation There is global inflation and life has become more expensive for everyone

[@BzBlade]

People thinking it's fake never saw the video of the attendee that was killed with a headshot and people around him were cover in his blood

[@alexpatel6378]

That’s true…but Doesn’t mean parts of it were not stag Ed…ever hear of collateral damage?

[@pisceananarchyvortex7223]

​@@alexpatel6378I'm so glad that all the left wing conspiracy theorists are finally coming out of the closet

[@greg8938]

@@alexpatel6378🤡

[@jumpy2783]

​@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 Also this isn't too smart of a thing to say either. I have seen many right-wingers claim that the possibility of the Trump administration carrying out the attack to be a complete joke while simultaneously claiming that the Biden administration likely carried this out themselves. I question the veracity of BOTH conspiracies, but I see people picking sides too often when they really shouldn't be.

[@tom1998rules]

​@@alexpatel6378 the leftoid cope is hilarious. 😂

[@NeverBestStudio]

It wasn't fake but come on the secret service dropping the ball THAT hard, is something to be looked at further beyond firing people for it.

[@aravind3398]

We in India are deeply concerned about democracy in the USA

[@enigma9625]

We are NOT a Democracy!!! Why can’t people understand the USA is a REPUBLIC!

[@enigma9625]

We are ruled by the Constitution, and not by the will of the people.

[@noway905]

We in America are deeply concerned that India has climbed into bed with Russia and is moving in with BRICS.

[@4DCResinSmoker]

United States is a Republic, not a true Democracy. In this system, those with excessive money and political clout take precedence over the will of the people. Should this fail, corporations and governments conspire to create a crisis to get what they want anyway.

[@4DCResinSmoker]

Its even simpler than than, we are ruled the rich.

[@themonopolyguy4365]

“The agents were acting in a way that was consistent with the agencies protocol.” “What are we doing?! What are we doing?!”

[@noway905]

They were Keystone cops from Homeland Security, not SS.

[@biform13]

Both of his parents are, "Counselors". Let that sink in.

[@KK-pm7ud]

What are you implying?

[@polarbearsrus6980]

Counselors who are devout Christians are not really counselors, think about it.

[@carefulconsumer8682]

That's odd. The MSM narrative does not make sense.

[@Montrovantis]

@@polarbearsrus6980 MSM who are devout Satanists are not really newscasters filling your head with truth, think about it.

[@ahmaudarberywasaviolentkle8094]

​@@KK-pm7udIt's junk science.

[@lowijol]

😂This “debunking” illustrates how the establishment is in on it. Nothing here contradicts the claim of incompetence of the job! It only debunks rumors that is of no importance for the case. You are supposed to ask critical questions and not run cover for incompetent establishment.

[@theonetocomeifyoubelieveit]

spot on!

[@andrewvelonis5940]

Does every video have a address the issues you deem important? So, this video was addressed to rumors that are of no importance, that was its topic, they didn't pretend to claim it was anything else. Some other video can cover incompetence of the job, either by WSJ or someone else. I'm sure it's out there.

[@wandameadows5736]

The Wall Street Journal preaching to others about "Misinformation" is rich.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

It's sad, WSJ used to be one of the somewhat reliable ones. They all are deep state propaganda outlets now.

[@indiathylane2158]

Remember decades ago, when it told straight stories? The had a large team of talented journalists & would of course report on stories broader than commerce & Wall Street. Perhaps with a conservative tinge to editorials, but mostly with a straight bat. Now look at them....

[@noway905]

WSJ has always been a leftist rag. Untrustworthy at best. Terroristic at worst.

[@tonyduggan9598]

​@indiathylane2158 that was rhe time when Noah started building his ark. A long time ago in a galaxy far far away.

[@indiathylane2158]

@@tonyduggan9598 You're right. A long time ago. There's only one newspaper in my state that prints a hard copy daily and I can't bring myself to buy it, so rancid is the content.

[@problactive285]

The WSJ debunking ANYTHING is pure comedy 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cnelsonlv99]

Also... they are only debunking the most ridiculous theories, but not the one that everyone cares about: that this was an inside job.

[@Treeezzz]

@@cnelsonlv99how would that be debunked at this point?

[@rogergeyer9851]

Depends on the topic. They certainly are too anti-science when it comes to things like climate change, which is why I quit subscribing to them nearly a decade ago. On the editorial pages is one thing. In news articles is QUITE another.

[@paperholepuncher6197]

@@cnelsonlv99 The more videos I watch of the events up to 2 minutes of knowing a person was perching up on a roof with a long black object, the more I think this also. I think this was nothing more than DEI choosing the security detail of the former and the nominee of the opposing party. Respect to those women who tried to be part of security, but it was an utter failure, and it shows that diversity doesn't make up for biology. This is an example of why we pick qualified people, not the ones who make us feel better. I do not believe now that the Biden admin wanted this to happen outright, but instead shows their continued inept policies that always lead to catastrophic failures, and there does need to be accountability.

[@problactive285]

@paperholepuncher6197 so blame it on the DEI boogeyman? That's childishly ridiculous. That's like all the airheads blaming DEI on Boeings mechanical failures until some whistle-blowers told the truth about corporate corruption...look at what happened to them. A guy crawling up on top of a building with a rifle in broad daylight with local police and federal agents EVERYWHERE isn't the fault of one individual. Do you blame DEI for your shortcomings in life too?

[@MAWA2024]

You can not trust anything you see or hear on the internet or television blindly without looking into it on your own. Heck, even "seeing is believing" isn't true anymore.

[@sterlingmarshel6299]

yes the old " I did my research" whatever

[@greg8938]

So how do you look into things?

[@AffectionateAstroStation-lx5is]

B​@@greg8938.ITS CALLED HAVING A GUT INSTINCT. ONLY A HALF WIT WOULD BELIEVE THIS REALLY HAPPENED.

[@Smedley1947]

@MAWA2024 Give us some tips on how you got your true information if you can't get it anywhere. Tick Tock? Facebook? Facebook is where most conspiracy theorists get their 'facts'

[@PedroHenrique-x17]

are there any footage from any of the 50 phone cameras behind him showing his right ear being hit? Any of them should be worth at least 50k

[@kellycarver2500]

Look at the after pics to see it's an overlaid ear..and it's obvious.

[@leighewinson9473]

​@@kellycarver2500what's an overlaid ear

[@scottishguard]

speaking of disinformation... *coughcoughWSJcough

[@terri6854]

You're good at unintentional irony, lol.

[@Greg-o304]

TWO minutes passing after police being notified and Trump was not removed from the stage!!! NORMAL PROTOCOL!! Got it!

[@karencourt5684]

Hi greg.exactly.the whole thing is fishy.

[@kesleyrhia1514]

@@karencourt5684 Because it is! No need to ever fully believe ANYTHING out of media or government, regardless of what side they lean politically

[@kesleyrhia1514]

@@karencourt5684 yea so you should be very careful, someone died simply for attending and it's fishy so be careful

[@karencourt5684]

​@@kesleyrhia1514pardon me

[@karencourt5684]

@@kesleyrhia1514 hmmmm is that a threat from u?????.u should be careful

[@thomascraddock8697]

Conspiracy this: the secret service behind the stage repositioned and then ducked before the first shot was fired. How did that happen?

[@nickisuperhot]

⁠@@sysy_7368a si, porque Trump sabía cuando girar la cabeza exactamente milisegundos antes de recibir el disparo, y el estaba dispuesto a poner su vida en alto riesgo. Síguese riendo desde México, donde también las noticias son gobernadas del USA 🤭 Todo Mentira!

[@karencourt5684]

Hi thomas.exactly.i saw that also.they did duck before the first shot.why did they duck.hmmm.i bet they knew

[@MasonGnzr]

I didnt see that in the video

[@dss5295]

Its a simple question. How did the Secret Service not spot an untrained shooter with an AR15 on a roof so close to where Trump was?

[@Ceen328]

They only set up a sniper nest on one slope of the roof, instead of both sides, to get an 360° overview of the whole area. That is mistake, that should not happen to the secret service. It is like setting up a road block on one lane of a two laned road and wonder why a car just drove by.

[@thekaliko]

it's not a big deal.

[@dustintacohands1107]

The question is was the secret service incompetent or corrupt

[@blauerHase359]

The real question is whether Trump set it up to boost his polling numbers. Let's not forget his ties to Alex Jones, QAnon, and Falun Gong.

[@carl6153]

🙄🥴🤡

[@dustintacohands1107]

@@blauerHase359 dude he was already going to win Biden bombed at debates and continues to mentally decline as we speak. Plus 2 people are critically injured and 2 people were killed. Those are both 2 huge factors that pretty much remove Trump from all suspicion.

[@dustintacohands1107]

@@carl6153 lol nothing to say troll speak up lol

[@alansylvia4276]

Or were they obstructed by trump's private security?

[@jeffschreifels8651]

This is the first time I'm hearing any of these conspiracy theories mentioned in this video. So they can't be all that wide spread. The fact that there was a roof top within easy shooting distance of the stage that was not cleared is a fact.

[@DannStarrElectronics]

Absolutely - it doesn't touch on a single actual conspiracy surrounding this event

[@nomoresaul]

Same. I hadn’t heard a single one of these.

[@8u88letea]

its just wsjs aim to spread misinformation

[@KRISH-bi2tt]

​@@Momo-po5tnI didn't🥱

[@millennialwatchman6703]

So you didn't debunk the conspiracy theory that this was an inside job and that the secret service allowed this to happen - because well, that's not a conspiracy theory thats more like common sense. Thank you WSJ.

[@criscros4207]

this is why i have ben telling every one don't believe anything right now wait until after the election to have a semblance of the truth

[@basengelblik5199]

Grow up

[@BWater-yq3jx]

They basically debunked stuff people don't care about, while failing to address the real issues. Crooks was able to fly a drone over the area and use a range finder before the rally. The roof he used was unprotected. Lots of people pointed out Crooks on the roof. Police sniper asked permission to fire on Crooks and was refused. Rally wasn't paused at any time while threats were observed. Sound analysis suggests shots came from more than one shooter, and under Congressional questioning... Cheatle refused to say how many shell-casings were found on the roof.

[@BWater-yq3jx]

There's also a fun one about Trump's company - TMTG - shares being heavily shorted just prior to the shooting. And Crooks previously working for and being in a TV ad for Blackrock.

[@BrokeredHeart]

There's no evidence to deny or support such a conspiracy, which is why they shouldn't be bringing it up. Until Congress finishes their investigation into SS and the entire lead up to the rally is analyzed for failures in judgement and lapses in security, all this is doing is attributing malfeasance to ineptitude and human error, and designing some greater scheme around Crooks without the public knowing much about him or his motivations. People get too cavalier about safety and risk, and sometimes the most obvious threats are unaccounted for when events like this are set up. Whatever precautions the SS and local police enforcement did not take that day could have had dire consequences for the entire country, and have tragically cost a family their loved one, and left the rest of the country with a lot of confusion and more questions.

[@alphabeta2515]

Calling it staged is an understatement

[@paulcooper8818]

Misinformation about misinformation

[@darrylskylar8757]

I’m not following this situation in the news. What is it that was in this video that is misinformation?

[@platinumfalconm3891]

Yo Dawg!

[@SusanConstant1607]

Thank you. Its on my playlist. Whats left of it. Making Sheeple and Misinformations Misinformation

[@MawcDrums]

@@darrylskylar8757 I am following this situation in the news, nothing was misinfo in this video. It shows that speculating before you have any of the evidence is stupid because you wind up looking like an idiot when you were proven wrong. This guy strikes me as a "The MSM is evil" type, They're anti ALL media that's not far-right falling in line behind Trump because it occasionally says bad things about their dictator daddy.

[@bleachedwhale]

Nothing in this video was misinformation, so either you're talking about other sources/people, or you're lying about the claims in this video.

[@toasty..__..]

This whole incident might have gotten debunked but I'll have to admit that it does kind of still seem a bit suspicious how this whole event unfolded (with the SS being present and not securing the whole area and whatnot). 👀

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

Made a comment, KZbin deleted it. Too much truth, I guess.

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

It wasn’t staged dude come on

[@Uduplr]

A publicity Stunt to get sympathy vote. Afterwards he was promised a well taken care of family.

[@direwolf6234]

yes where's all the blood from an ear wound ? it already looked dried up .. and what about the face stripes ? and where are the follow up medica reports ??

[@nohandleforme....]

@@direwolf6234 You are clearly showing your IGNORANCE.

[@superjeffstanton]

Can we talk about the ladder on the building and how he was on the east side not the west side

[@KK-pm7ud]

What are you saying?

[@rockyBalboa6699]

I saw that Ladder!!

[@Benefits]

Apparently, he brought the ladder with him. There's new reporting out this morning saying that a local officer confronted him 30 minutes before the sh**ting, asked him what he was doing with the ladder, and even took his picture and showed it to Secret Service. But they never followed up on it.

[@johnwong5317]

He was on that roof for 26 MINTUES, the lack of communication and the incompetent is just wild.

[@rigelb9025]

@@johnwong5317 Or maybe - just maybe - intentional. Just speculating here.

[@smokymountains5249]

WT actual F?! Alex Jones has to pay over $1 billion for " misinformation ", but, since we're now talking about Trump, it's suddenly OK to have an opinion again?

[@andrewvelonis5940]

Do you think any of that makes sense?

[@smokymountains5249]

@@andrewvelonis5940 Of course it made sense, especially to me, seeing as how I'm the one who said it. Thanks for being curious, and trying to follow along. Once your reading comprehension and current events are up to snuff, you'll be fine.

[@pg396]

“Misinformation” is a new word for “Silence!”

[@MawcDrums]

How do we discern what is true or what isn't?

[@chickenstrangler3826]

Yeah, people who spew nonsense should be silent. Would you rather liars on social media to go unchallenged? Sounds like you want the media to be silent.

[@frontenac5083]

*Am I the only one whose comments keep vanishing in the last few days?* *But maybe this one will have vanished too so you can't answer me.*

[@blindjustice8718]

No.

[@fdjt241]

No you are not, Very high percentage of mine vanish too..

[@jannetteberends8730]

They are probably there, but you can’t see them. I found out that they are there in my comments history. It’s a nuisance, especially when someone reacts on my comment, and I don’t know which comment they reacted on.

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

@@jannetteberends8730 That's how shadow banning works - you can see your comment, but noone else can. And so you are to think "oh, I guess it got no likes" but that's because KZbin hid it from everyone. Sometimes it is immediate (they know me, so mine get shadowed pretty quick 😅) and sometimes it will be in a few minutes, so you will get a response before it disappears.

[@fdjt241]

@@frontenac5083 I check my history constantly and they are not there either, YT eliminates them

[@reignofchaos6463]

The irony of the Wall Street Journal talking about misinformation.😅

[@chickenstrangler3826]

Ironic how?

[@Fooney1]

@@chickenstrangler3826 Because they spew misinformation everyday. Did you really need that explained to you? Wow man.

[@roguetrader33]

Stick to truth social

[@lethargicastengah572]

@@chickenstrangler3826 its their job to spread misinformation

[@cesarcesar5129]

You forgot to mention they weren’t actually secret service agents.

[@frontenac5083]

*Yet more comments of mine disappear into thin air.*

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

Dito

[@jeanettecameron7530]

Yep

[@Fooney1]

They are so afraid of any truth. They don't care if they lose customers at all.

[@seriouscarguys702]

Twitter no scrubbing KZbin scrubs 2 out of 5 comments especially true statements lol

[@lethargicastengah572]

keep spamming lad

[@ForCrynOutLoud]

Debunking? I see no debunking, just misdirection by the poster.

[@MawcDrums]

It's up to YOU to PROVE your claims, not up to US to debunk them. You think it's staged? What's your PROOF? What's your EVIDENCE? That's how these things work. We can't debunk your idiotic claims if there's no evidence for them in the first place. If I say that dragons come and put us to sleep every single night, you can deny my outrageous claim unless I have evidence for it. Now what if I say PROVE IT!? PROVE THERE AREN'T DRAGONS THAT PUT US TO SLEEP EVERY NIGHT? You cannot PROVE a negative, especially when the claim isn't even specious but essentially outright impossible. It is essentially IMPOSSIBLE that this was staged. I'd put the chances that it was a staged act at roughly 0.0000000000000000000000000000001%. It's POSSIBLE, but EXTREMELY unlikely. We never speak in absolute certainty. Now as far as other claims in the video? The kid in the video was shown and proven NOT to be the shooter, the "hole" could have been a camera aberration (dust, a spec of something in the air between trump and the camera, something on the lens, something falling off of the sleeve of one of the secret service agents etc.) What is clear is in subsequent pics the hole isn't there, DEBUNKING that claim.

[@ILoveTinfoilHats]

Ironic because it was all over Reddit and they lapped it up like ants to honey

[@revolutionhamburger]

Wall Street Journal used to be a good newspaper. Now it isn't worth printing.

[@karenkoe7096]

Aren't the owned by Murdock? Tells you everything you need to know......

[@anitadees4223]

GOOD OBSERVATION. The Wall Street Journal is now owned by the Rupert Murdoch organization which gave us the National Enquirer. It once had a fine reputation, but it is just a right wing propaganda rag now.

[@freemarley639]

Bought by FOX..

[@Valerius123]

Some people think all guns/rifles sound like a desert eagle.

[@noreverse1152]

Great care to not mention the things that are really suspicious

[@somebloke5565]

I'm suspicious that you're suspicious. That's really suspicious.

[@801D012]

I'm surprised that at some point in the debunking we weren't directed to look at a squirrel.

[@jackrobinson9403]

Such as?

[@educostanzo]

Like what? I'm really curious

[@lugcastillo]

This entire thing doesn't make sense. The facts don't add up.

[@frontenac5083]

Don't they? How so? Please explain.

[@acrustykrab]

​@frontenac5083 not even worth asking. So many dumb people on social media, they just leave their awful opinions and nonsensical drivel everywhere. Half are probably bots

[@direwolf6234]

@@frontenac5083 where's the blood on his hand and neck ? where are the medical reports ?

[@smolpener7430]

​@@frontenac5083 The big one is motive.

[@lugcastillo]

@frontenac5083 the witnesses say they all saw him on the roof, and the authorities did nothing.

[@421Rider]

There are many theories about the conspiracy but the conspiracy is not a theory.

[@lethargicastengah572]

Yes and they create meaningless theories to obfuscate everyone from the meaningful explanations.

[@Julie-gv5kn]

Don't complain about misinformation when they are keeping information from the American people!

[@marknorville4192]

I am ex military from the UK, and what happened should not have happened. You would have had snipers being in position long before he spoke keeping an eye on the area, yet it looked like they were sun bathing, rather than keeping an eye on things. People were shouting and telling the police about a man on the roof before the shooting, yet the snipers never took him down before he could fire a shot. If you are a sniper then you are in position hours before any event, so is there a conspiracy here, yes looking at all the video evidence.

[@Aztec1050]

You cannot fool everyone all the time

[@Johnny5]

But you can fool Liberals, all the time!

[@johnshepard9894]

Here's an idea tell us the whole truth without spin then people won't have to guess what really happened. Still no establishment media outlet has mentioned that the kid was in a Blackrock video last year.

[@therealdoug1000]

Why won’t Trump release the hospital report? Why did Ronnie Jackson write a note?

[@SWTmel]

Because it was staged. So many foolish gullible people. BTW... Have you seen his ear? It looks pretty normal/healed during his latest interviews.

[@Nick_80599]

​@@SWTmelI thought so

[@tobyroyson9336]

@@SWTmel LOL you think everything is staged.

[@SWTmel]

@@tobyroyson9336 I do? Interesting. Not everything. Definitely this one.

[@salderomacedonia3840]

​@@SWTmelThere's actually videosnby professional gun users that both check and tried to demonstrate how hard it is to shoot on trump's ear I think those videos will help you

[@DMTEntity88]

Whenever they talk about “debunking conspiracy theories” those conspiracy theories are usually the truth…

[@greg8938]

Name 3

[@ChrisHops22]

huh, I wonder where my previous comment went...

[@user-lp5wb2rb3v]

what was it

[@willong1000]

Krzysztof, I don't know what your previous comment was, but I give your current comment a like because I have experienced the same problem across multiple KZbin channels myself. The censorship is out of hand and is especially aggravating when one invests their time in making a thoughtful comment intended to further a discussion or rebut another's argument. I encourage anyone else who has experienced the problem of having their innocuous, serious comments deleted to add to your tally of thumbs up. I am not so deluded to think it will make a difference; but, perhaps it will help spark a trend that could!

[@philip2205]

There are so many comments from conspiracy theorists that I doubt your comment was censored. Lol, why would they remove just your comment? 😂

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

Mine get shadow banned all the time. God forbid I mention Joe's dementia of any actual facts ot timelines about Ukraine...

[@janice369]

Bcuz it probably was reported by a human or bot. ​@@philip2205

[@loricalass4068]

The public is more and more learning to not trust those in power. Or those in the media who cover for them.

[@Jamespowell-lb5ot]

WSJ wouldn't know the truth ( or tell it) to save their lying souls. Bought and paid for.

[@freespirittransport5139]

Ask the family of a deceased man about "conspiracy theories!!!"

[@stevepan50]

LOL Because they told you it was real...ITS FAKE!

[@bdd1469]

If I get invited to the Oscar's I will.

[@annettesullivan9155]

I am so sorry for the loss, but Trump doesn't give a dam about anyone except himself.... we all suffer because of him .... and that is the honest truth.

[@xvasacex]

Whats crazy is they confirmed the building the shooter was on top of a was stationed building for local police…. Also during the press conference they all insinuated the shooter was outside their perimeter

[@koningklootzak7788]

Am i allowed to say it's fake?

[@piratepuppy3394]

@@koningklootzak7788 Secret service and fbi want him to dead.if its fake or staged secret service members will speek.

[@rigelb9025]

You just did. So I guess you are.

[@timothyporter1632]

Does anyone even have faith in anything that WSJ says anymore? I sure don't.

[@PrometheusZandski]

it's a propaganda rag that publishes stock prices as well.

[@MarineInfantry]

Publishing stock prices...which the internet has rendered obsolete.@@PrometheusZandski

[@johndaarteest]

Is the WSJ owned by Blackrock?

[@javoryjones]

🤔 Hmmmm I think it is

[@scarscar9278]

And what's the problem with that? Do you have a conspiracy theory about the company?

[@sterlingmarshel6299]

@@javoryjones everything is blackrocks fault now? too funny - its owned by Drump support Rupert Murdoch ( I should say ex- Drump supporter)

[@Grass_Is_Greener]

​@scarscar9278 Did you not see the advert they took down featuring the shooter? It was all over yesterday, including the NY post.

[@m.g.1391]

No, owned by Rupert Murdoch since 2007.

[@frontenac5083]

*WARNING! YOUR COMMENTS ARE BEING SHADOW-BANNED!*

[@julesknight1511]

Literally right after it happened till now I've been getting almost all my comments deleted even if I avoid certain words that might get flagged

[@jackiedragonfly2461]

We know🤐... Used to be saying Joe had dementia got me banned all the way. Now that George Clooney agrees, may I say it too, or not, dear KZbin?

[@chickenstrangler3826]

KZbin does it to everyone dude.

[@Fooney1]

Make more accounts use more devices and comment 5 times as much.

[@Trumpamaniac_223]

Not on Elon musk’s X lol Long Live Freedom Of Speech!!!

[@Iamcg3]

how can you debunk anything 72 hours after it happened? this assumes conspiratorial nature before anyone can evaluate what actually happened.

[@user-ds4wi6qv2j]

When will ballistic report and the medical examiner report be released? Why are republicans not calling for congressional investigation?

[@deanb949]

Will (or can) WSJ debunk the shooter appearing in a Pennsylvania BLACK ROCK promo video ????

[@Noartisthere]

What about the blackrock commercial that was pulled because the shooter was in it?

[@cooldukenukem]

They did a commercial using his school, people that knew about the commercial found him and started sharing it. Blackrock obviously doesn't want the negative publicity so they pulled it. Nothing really out of ordinary there.

[@Noartisthere]

Why wasn't that included in this "debunking " video? Also, information on X was much more accurate than any mainstream media. The message of this video is just a don't trust division media commercial ad, brought to you by.... Blackrock.

[@paulthomas963]

@@cooldukenukem Adorable.

[@coasteyscoasteys]

​@@cooldukenukem Great coincidence or great connection I'll go with the latter

[@abrakkehakka1357]

And what about the nursing home he worked at… Why haven’t the elderly been interviewed by the media? It’s natural for us humans to attempt to “connect dots”… As hunters and gatherers, and even as farmers, it was essential. But now in our modern world, unless we apply the natural laws of logic and look for actual causal relationships, this instinct is often damaging for us. Unfortunately too many weren’t informed about this in school.

[@frbmp5100]

One man killed. How is it staged?

[@techgregory5253]

maybe he is not. Where are proofs he is?

[@trevmac8362]

@@techgregory5253 Sober and check into rehab

[@pisceananarchyvortex7223]

​@@techgregory5253what proof have you ever had that any public figure has died ever

[@techgregory5253]

@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 everyone can say he has been killed but how we can be sure that's not false?

[@techgregory5253]

​@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 many people there were recording videos so if none of them have proof of that then that seems like fake

[@nunyabizniz1983]

Like anyone in their right mind would listen to the ‘truth’ coming from the WSJ 😂😂😂

[@waltw918]

If Secret service had someone on the water tower they would had easily seen if someone was scaling that roof or even drones in the air.

[@stanleyshannon4408]

If only we had some sort of professionals who could do some kind of investigation and publish it somewhere for someone to read. Debunking seems a lot like just defending and repeating the state's narrative.

[@pisceananarchyvortex7223]

We have tons of professionals like that. They are independent and exploding like crazy since 2020, as the MSM goes down in flames

[@stanleyshannon4408]

@@pisceananarchyvortex7223 although mostly with very limited resources to perform thorough investigative journalism.

[@smittysanitarium7936]

These are not the droids you're looking for

[@kitomit2793]

Привет из России

[@3dsmaxrocks699]

"Debunking Conspiracy Theories" AKA...we'll run cover for the CIA.

[@myopicthunder]

Rothschild publication telling you not to entertain conspiracy theories 😂😂

[@Smedley1947]

It's owned by Rupert Murdoch so I would expect nothing but lies from it ordinarily. Certainly in the opinion section.

[@kingbenjamin92]

Guess I gotta unsubscribe to WSJ now 🤦🏻‍♂️😢

[@zacherypatterson5184]

Howcome?

[@kingbenjamin92]

@@zacherypatterson5184 can't say on KZbin, someone's "soft skin" will end up reporting me 💁🏻‍♂️

[@chewie1355]

@@zacherypatterson5184 WSJ has been losing their credibility for some time. I unsubscribed to their paper when there was initial articles were supporting Sam Friedman (part of the corrupt establishment).

[@benjaminbowers421]

The shooter was in a blackrock commercial. If your know anything about blackrock you will think it’s strange to

[@niquenorris9572]

Charley from the chocolate factory almost never moved. Sitting cool calm and collected when everybody else panicked

[@MariaRoseGonzalez]

🤔🤪 i saw that too

[@BrandonLovoi]

So kind of like how your site spreads misinformation?

[@epinney4649]

Next time..we should just wait for the official reports... ...sorry, official misinformation!

[@dougmoore4653]

from the Ministry of Truth

[@LocPhan-wt]

@@dougmoore4653 staged…

[@Inception1338]

Bla bla. Nothing fits in this story. Oh but thanks for not censoring the comment section. Much appreciated. 👍

[@mikej.8885]

Forensic analysis suggests that as many as three weapons were fired at the Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania on Saturday. The FBI said Sunday that the shooter acted alone. The first three shots were consistent with alleged weapon A, the next five were consistent with alleged weapon B, and the final “acoustic impulse” was emitted by a possible weapon C, per audio analysis by Catalin Grigoras, director of the National Center for Media Forensics at the University of Colorado in Denver, and Cole Whitecotton, Senior Professional Research Associate at the same institution. Audio analysis has also confirmed that the gunman was about 360 to 393 feet from the podium, according to forensics expert Robert Maher. This conclusion aligns with CNN’s analysis that the gunman was on a rooftop 393 to 492 feet from the podium when shots rang out. The shots exemplify a “crack-pop” sequence, typical when a supersonic bullet passes a microphone, before the “arrival of the corresponding muzzle blast sound,” Maher, who teaches audio forensics at Montana State University, told CNN. The time between these markers places the shooter 110 to 120 meters from the microphone, Maher said, assuming the bullet is moving at an average speed of 800 to 1,000 meters per second, the equivalent of 2,600 to 3,280 feet per second. CNN’s Hannah Rabinowitz, Evan Perez, and Ryan Young contributed reporting.

[@MatthewYoung-bq6rn]

Its our freedom to have an opinion, also, conspiracy theories have led to solving problems many times. Close mindedness doesn't solve anything.

[@CHESSmastered-5]

Secret services were preparing pizza hot pockets during the attempted assassination

[@Chicken7091]

Anyone find it wierd how slowly they got trump out of there?

[@paolorossi8470]

H. O. A. X.

[@raclark2730]

Were either of you screeching about far right conspiracies previously.

[@thekaliko]

I've always thought it was weird how slow trump is.

[@andrewvelonis5940]

I don't think it was slow, and they had to move with everyone around him.

[@joevette6290]

Why are they not investigating those people from Washington ( very close to their office) who's cell was tracked going to Crooks home numerous times in the last months????

[@GraveVisitations]

So a man died trying to protect his family in the crowd and that was staged also? Ya right 🙄

[@TheGhostOfSmedleyButler]

Why is there no Blood on the roof? What became of the body? Where is the rifle?

[@LanazKreationz]

Good analysis!

[@gweng405]

Excuse me, the killer had a phone anyone with a phone has phone service which has your name or parents attached to Bill!

[@AD-ln2xu]

What about burner phones?

[@gweng405]

It was not reported as burner phone!

[@JuliusTorres-b2z]

Fake

[@sergioaldana1853]

how when a innocent man died

[@glynnezacharykearns7973]

​@@sergioaldana1853collateral damage

[@LC-jh3es]

A father of 2 girls, a 20yr old kid died, 3 others nearly died. Where is our humanity? It’s chance to learn and show our humanity not fuel more hate.