Deliberately Burning In My QD-OLED Monitor - 9 Month Update

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@monitorsunboxed
@monitorsunboxed 9 сағат бұрын
I've assessed the footage this time and good news! The images look very close to the "raw" results in KZbin's compressed 4K mode, so you should get a pretty accurate representation of burn in this time (most of the time it's not compression artefacts)
@sylvainh2o
@sylvainh2o 8 сағат бұрын
Seems like companies don't release much MiniLed specially MiniLed Ultrawide. I want to play a lot of Poe2 with static skill bars and watch youtube a lot. Having a better quality with Oled but paying quite more for something that wouldn't last anywhere near a Miniled sounds like a terrible idea for a budget conscious consumer.
@pratyushpatra9043
@pratyushpatra9043 7 сағат бұрын
PLEASE REVIEW BENQ PD3205U (most monitors u recommend are not available in India so is it possible to recommend monitors available Amazon India)
@KING_DRANZER
@KING_DRANZER 6 сағат бұрын
I use monitor for good 14-16hrs per day. And have static apps and programs always on. And the Taskbar. That is my regular usage. Yeah am worried getting an OLED. But seriously the Picture quality makes me want to get one.
@WeLLeSaMa
@WeLLeSaMa 3 сағат бұрын
Hello @Monitorsunboxed , I have an OLED for 1 Year now! AW3423dwf. And I can also report: (Tldr: Still works fine. Use OLED Panel Maintenance Funktions (Monitor Options.) Let it clean itself every night after shutdown.) 1. I have the newest driver! I installed the newest driver "M3B107" shortly after i bought it. I started with 105 or 106. I bought the Monitor ca. 6 months after realese. 2. I use my screen like I used my old one ( Dell U3415W ) which I used for 8 - 9 years. Still worked, when I soled it. 3. I use my screen weekdays 1 - 6 hoors and weekend 6 - 12 hours. 4. I have the selfcleaning maintenance option on. So after PC shutdown it cleans it self for 6 - 8 minuts. NEVER remove your oled from energy! Or the maintenance doesn't work. 5. The more intense PANEL REFRESH option started while using the PC ONCE so far! I took a few hours! The timing was lucky for me. 6. I used "True black 400 nits" for some time. And now "HDR Peak 1000" for ca. half a year alredy. 7. So far no problems :D !!! yay. It needs to last minimum 5 years!
@kaiserfakinaway5909
@kaiserfakinaway5909 3 сағат бұрын
​@@KING_DRANZERget a cheap 100 dollar monitor for productivity work and an OLED for media, win-win
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 8 сағат бұрын
"We'll keep monitoring things". I see what you did there.
@jacobgames3412
@jacobgames3412 6 сағат бұрын
Pun intended
@tanmayhembram9249
@tanmayhembram9249 9 сағат бұрын
This is such a good way of showing usage of OLED by giving constant experience updates or few intervals. Thanks a lot really.
@MidWitPride
@MidWitPride 6 сағат бұрын
It's always good to get the "worst case scenario" for comparison, instead of the usual "Ehh, it's probably going to be fine unless you abuse it." -judgments, as people use these monitors in very different ways and have different standards for what counts as unreasonable. Someone who plays casually on the weekends and for the rest of the week the monitor is off is not exactly in the same league of "monitor abuse" as someone who works from home, stares at bright white spreadsheets for 8 hours a day and then uses the screen for entertainment on top of that. In latter case burn-ins aren't just paranoia anymore, if you want the screen to last for 5 years.
@sparketech
@sparketech 10 минут бұрын
Great giving updates, but what has stopped me from getting OLED are those pixel and screen refresh cycles that may take several minutes but would annoy the heck out of me.
@mercurio822
@mercurio822 10 сағат бұрын
This is the best unboxed series.
@mort996
@mort996 8 сағат бұрын
Damn time flies... Feels like 6 month update was yesterday
@FJaypewpew
@FJaypewpew 8 сағат бұрын
swear second half of the year always goes quicker
@jayzn1931
@jayzn1931 7 сағат бұрын
I just watched it a few days ago :D
@lew_7
@lew_7 7 сағат бұрын
we’re all getting old :(
@jacobgames3412
@jacobgames3412 6 сағат бұрын
​@@FJaypewpewagree
@WhoIsKryp
@WhoIsKryp 2 сағат бұрын
The funny part in my case is that I watched the 6 month update literally yesterday, since I was researching an OLED monitor to buy for Black Friday, haha
@lamardoss
@lamardoss 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@Accurian
@Accurian 10 сағат бұрын
Very reassuring to hear these results!
@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP
@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP 7 сағат бұрын
That his screen burns in? very reassuring indeed...
@GoldenSW
@GoldenSW 7 сағат бұрын
I agree OLED is amazing (since I own an OLED TV myself) and at least in the monitor area LCDs don't come close in terms of picture quality, but I wish people realized how much of a colossal difference in longevity is between the two techonolgies. I think I've bought like 10 monitors for myself, friends and family since the early 2000s and none of them ever broke and the displays work just as well as the day they arrived. One of them was like 200 euros in 2008 and it saw 5 day a week heavy office use for about 15 years and there's no sign of image degradation or noticeable brightness decrease.
@Batman-bh6vw
@Batman-bh6vw 6 сағат бұрын
That's really the big hangup for me. A 4-figure (more or less) monitor should not have a comparatively very limited lifespan. My current monitors are 8 and 5 years old and there's nothing wrong with them. That won't be the case with OLED.
@GoldenSW
@GoldenSW 5 сағат бұрын
@Batman-bh6vw yeah... exactly
@lizardx6504
@lizardx6504 3 сағат бұрын
What's wrong with the image quality of IPS? It is perfect, the difference with OLED is only in the black color, but the visibility of dark shades is much more important and IPS has excellent visibility
@GoldenSW
@GoldenSW 3 сағат бұрын
@@lizardx6504high end LCDs can be very close to OLEDs. But infinite contrast aside, it has instantaneous response time and perfect panel uniformity (no light bleed for example) which can be a big deal depending on the type content
@brugj03
@brugj03 2 сағат бұрын
@@lizardx6504 Black is not a color, OLED tech is far superior to any backlit tech. Oled response is way faster. It`s about contrast, and ips sucks at blacks and black detail. No wonder, it`s only 1 to 900 contrast. Oled 1 to 1000000 contrast. See the diiference.
@MrXaniss
@MrXaniss 8 сағат бұрын
Had once of these since launch... I use dark mode, use it primarily for gaming and content, I just do about 4-5 hours of video editing a week. And I have windows to put my display to sleep after 5 mins of inactivity. There is 0 burn in of any kind.
@danielainsley8017
@danielainsley8017 Сағат бұрын
What brightness do you have the panel set too? Been mulling over whether to get this or not. I browse the Web a lot. Play games with quite a bit of static HUD elements. (Jrpgs, arpgs, etc.)
@chengong388
@chengong388 4 сағат бұрын
I have an LCD side monitor where the task bar and all desktop icons sit, it's very practical because I can easily access them even when my main display is occupied by a game or something.
@The11devans
@The11devans Сағат бұрын
Monitor's Unboxed has been popping off these last few weeks. Good stuff 👍
@EwokEight
@EwokEight 8 сағат бұрын
This experiment is SO valuable! Thank you so much!
@Slenddaz
@Slenddaz 10 сағат бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for experimenting and showing this off!
@GregKealey
@GregKealey 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you for running this test
@kevanpoeschek
@kevanpoeschek 3 сағат бұрын
I love that “Monitors Unboxed is monitoring unboxed monitors” can be an accurate description for this video series.
@M_LittleRivers
@M_LittleRivers 10 сағат бұрын
Great testing as always!
@Kocan7
@Kocan7 10 сағат бұрын
What a great timing, I'm just about going to pick some ultrawide QD-OLED. Thanks Tim.
@inceptionsd
@inceptionsd 9 сағат бұрын
If you plan on playing ultrawide games exclusively, then go for it. Otherwise I wouldnt recommend it since the panel will see a lot of letterboxing on the sides, which will burn in.
@JoeGrizz1y
@JoeGrizz1y 9 сағат бұрын
just remember, he is using it in the worst case scenario. this isnt an actual use test. Just showing what happens when you dont use the OLED safety features and treat it poorly.
@joechapman8208
@joechapman8208 9 сағат бұрын
@@inceptionsd You are massively overstating the problems or what to do about them. After two years of playing mixtures of content including quite a lot of 16:9 KZbin every day on my QD-OLED, there is no sign of letterboxing and I don't expect that to be the way it comes in either (probably more of a scattered dimming towards the screen centre). Obviously, you buy any OLED knowing it has a limited life but mine clearly has years more to go. And as Tim points out, when the degradation comes, that doesn't mean your screen is going to look terrible; your most-displayed content type is going to mask its own issues to some extent.
@Kocan7
@Kocan7 9 сағат бұрын
@@JoeGrizz1y Yup, I run only games and some AI stuff on my personal rig and always preferred dark theme. Still I was a bit hesistant a few months ago, but made up my mind about a week ago, still if Tims OLED is that well after 9 months of abuse, mine should be fine for at least 5-6 years.
@Kocan7
@Kocan7 9 сағат бұрын
​@@inceptionsd True, but, I just can't set up my current 27" miniled + 27" LCD, I've tried every configuration and it never worked for me, in recent months OLEDs got much cheaper and I've got a 150$ coupon, so it's pretty much a free upgrade to me. Fortunately my personal PC is mainly gaming rig, and I'm going to buy 15 in portable screen as a 2nd screen, it will be under 21:9 OLED. I have a large TV for movies etc.
@malguskerensky
@malguskerensky 3 сағат бұрын
Thank you for continuing this series, this is really useful information! To tag on to this, I'm still running the 32" Alienware slight curved OLED, though more carefully. I do hide the taskbar, I will toss a YT video that is safe for OLED displays if I will be away from some time, and run in dark mode. I have not seen any noticeable burn in using the current gen OLEDs, which gets 8+ hours of use a day on mixed content.
@Tom_Quixote
@Tom_Quixote 8 сағат бұрын
My date: So what do you do for fun? Me: I'm watching videos on KZbin. Her: Interesting videos? Me: Let's change the topic.
@keppycs
@keppycs 3 сағат бұрын
Wouldn't have to change the topic if they were also a tech nerd :D
@The11devans
@The11devans Сағат бұрын
The modern day "I collect mold, spores, and fungus."
@phipsi3922
@phipsi3922 8 сағат бұрын
This is such a great series. Thank you alot. I just got my oled monitor and you tests really help me knowing how to treat it properly
@Alipro0077
@Alipro0077 10 сағат бұрын
Trying to see his 32URX burn in whilst using my own 32URX and wondering which is his and which is mine xD
@soldonwish
@soldonwish 10 сағат бұрын
How long have you had yours
@huzaifavawda8383
@huzaifavawda8383 10 сағат бұрын
lmfao!!!
@Alipro0077
@Alipro0077 10 сағат бұрын
@@soldonwish like 3 weeks. No burn in, using all the tools provided, but also I literally can't see his burn in without the enhanced filter anyway
@bagerklestyne
@bagerklestyne 10 сағат бұрын
Same, hahahah
@76sagman
@76sagman 8 сағат бұрын
hahaha
@omarali6651
@omarali6651 10 сағат бұрын
Been waiting for this video ever since the last update
@berndkemmereit8252
@berndkemmereit8252 Сағат бұрын
Thanks for this very helpful test, it explains exactly what I needed to know in relation to my daily use. I'm happy that I can get an OLED without worrying to much about burn in.
@misericorde360
@misericorde360 7 сағат бұрын
I've been using the Alienware AW3423DW for 2 years now. Almost 10.000 hours clocked in, for both productivity and entertainment (coding, web browsing, games, KZbin & movies). Lots of static content. I've used dark mode, hiding task bar, and screen saver after 3 minutes. Only one Panel refresh at around 7.000 hours. Happy to report that burn-in remains minimal. Being a 34 ultrawide, the only burn-in I can spot is side bars (out of the 16:9 aspect ratio), only on a 5% Greyscale screen. If I really look for it, I can spot it in some dark movie scenes, but I really need to focus on it, not an issue otherwise. For the amount of static content I use my monitor everyday, that's quite impressive ! Plus, the monitor is still under warranty until November 2025. Don't be afraid of OLED for productivity, guys!
@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP
@ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP 7 сағат бұрын
Id return it by november 2025 for any burn in you see, it is your right.
@IIIlllIIIIIIIIIIIIl
@IIIlllIIIIIIIIIIIIl 7 сағат бұрын
Thanks for these videos. Gave me the confidence to use a LG OLED TV as my main monitor for both work and games.
@bumperxx1
@bumperxx1 Сағат бұрын
Yeah dude I got on board in 2020 with a LG 48ich oled cx tv 120hertz gsyinc as my main monitor amd I have never looked back. I only recommend like 37 to 40inch away from your eye. I got slight burn in but I blast the colors full and use dynamic lights. It's fine I dont even see it in games or movies. Remember to have a 2nd monitor for web search ect so you don't get bar burn in. I play up to 10hr or more some days it's gtg
@gte879p
@gte879p 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this, i was initially worried a bit over burn in risk... but after weighing the risk and watching some of your videos on how to make a more informed decision... I leapt in and bought an ASUS PG32UCDM. (i love it.)
@nacerrrr5615
@nacerrrr5615 9 сағат бұрын
I wait for these update episodes like I wait for a new season of a tv show, amazing job
@aflyingmodem
@aflyingmodem 7 сағат бұрын
The test results are looking very promising
@boampy
@boampy 9 сағат бұрын
Genius t-shirt!
@Jay-xq1dc
@Jay-xq1dc 2 сағат бұрын
So in case anyone dont know (like me before googling this). This monitor is third gen QD OLED (most recent gen). Great video. QD-OLED (and prob WOLED) seem to really mature..
@angelost1467
@angelost1467 9 сағат бұрын
This is a valuable piece of research. I assume most users game after hours but work during the day.
@nicerhabara
@nicerhabara 6 сағат бұрын
I just bought a QD-OLED monitor which I plan on using for work & gaming so this video is releasing at the perfect time
@Sail0rGooN
@Sail0rGooN 7 сағат бұрын
These videos put me at ease. I’ll be sleeping good tonight
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 3 сағат бұрын
Yep, I sleep good at night with my LCD.
@zenzuken
@zenzuken 10 сағат бұрын
I really appreciate these videos. I just got my first QD-OLED a few days ago and I am like unreasonable worrying about burn in 😉
@veilmontTV
@veilmontTV 9 сағат бұрын
2k hours ok my aw3225qf. Hdr full brightness half that time. Pubg the rest. Still cleaner than any lcd I've ever seen. He's abusing his monitor on purpose
@LishtenbirdTech
@LishtenbirdTech 9 сағат бұрын
​@@veilmontTVOne man's "abuse" is another man's regular short productivity day.
@WyattOShea
@WyattOShea 9 сағат бұрын
@@LishtenbirdTech Like me but not actually being productive at all 😂. Oled would most likely be terrible for me as I never ever turn my screens off and I don't baby them either so they're on all day and night long unless I'm away from the pc for more than 15 minutes (when they go into sleep mode but still not technically turned off).
@SaltyDerps
@SaltyDerps 9 сағат бұрын
You're lucky then QD-OLED has more lifespan and brightness than WOLED.
@crm484
@crm484 7 сағат бұрын
I was worried the first months, now I dont really think of it. I am watching much content in 16:9 aspect, so I know there is a risk. I use the monitor between 30-50 hours per week, and I run my cycles every 4 hours. I do not have the slightest burn in after 4 months. And the gaming experience is so much better than with an IPS.
@mhult5873
@mhult5873 2 сағат бұрын
Thanks for another, as always, great video! Will there ever be a software update to Windows / Cleartype so that OLED will display text-characters as well as LCD? Br
@RismusR
@RismusR 2 сағат бұрын
My friend's LG TV burned out in three years. We are waiting for your monitor... Very interesting.
@AgrippaMarcus
@AgrippaMarcus 8 сағат бұрын
You're a legend Tim ! I love my QDOLED
@brugj03
@brugj03 2 сағат бұрын
Got a WOLED from lg, 3100 hours after 18 months. Still clean as a whistle, as new. It`s the curved 45 inch.
@Sarsour_
@Sarsour_ 5 сағат бұрын
Awesome series, really appreciate the commitment for science!!!
@s7r49
@s7r49 4 сағат бұрын
Thanks for making compelling content. Very awesome
@mate0821
@mate0821 3 сағат бұрын
"my personal favourite, excel" ah, a man of culture
@FPSdoug888
@FPSdoug888 6 сағат бұрын
I've been adamantly following this series. I really want an OLED, but the monitor would be used 75% for productivity and the other for gaming. So far the results seem pretty decent as long as you take a lot of precautions. Thanks for the update video!
@Tech2C
@Tech2C 8 сағат бұрын
RTINGS are taking notes...
@danieloberhofer9035
@danieloberhofer9035 7 сағат бұрын
If early next year after 12 months of Tim stressing the crap out of QD-OLED things look about the same as they do now, I'll pull the trigger, because that'd be good enough for me. Thanks a bunch, Tim, for doing this!
@Voivod74
@Voivod74 8 сағат бұрын
What amazing informative video and analysis because I am thinking to switch oled from IPS for productivity. You are the best channel for monitors. hands down
@samserious1337
@samserious1337 Сағат бұрын
He just wanna see the world burnin!
@vermillion4971
@vermillion4971 10 сағат бұрын
Dude: Aggresively burning his monitor Monitor: Just staying in the corner for 9 months
@beat9909
@beat9909 10 сағат бұрын
is this another chill guy meme
@Karishin32
@Karishin32 7 сағат бұрын
i don't call what he's doing aggressive.
@TheFibie007
@TheFibie007 3 сағат бұрын
​@@Karishin32 But most other people do.
@kilnerdyne
@kilnerdyne 52 минут бұрын
Cheers Tim, thanks for your sacrifice.
@noer0205
@noer0205 3 сағат бұрын
There seems to be a bit of backlight bleed on your T-shirt 😉 Jokes aside: Thanks for this great series and all the other MUB and HUB content, Tim! ❤️
@randxalthor
@randxalthor 10 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the informative updates on this! In completely unrelated news, I'm looking into mini LED backlit IPS monitors...
@ASadTeddyBear
@ASadTeddyBear 2 сағат бұрын
Fwiw Ive been using an OLED for a htpc for about 4 years and I’ve been doing all the things to reduce burn in such as hiding taskbars, bookmark bars, dark mode, auto switch off etc. and I’ve got literally no visible burn in after viewing various test patterns. I mainly use the htpc for web browsing, KZbin and twitch and the main content I watch is league esports but still no burn in anywhere.
@PindleofKujata
@PindleofKujata 2 сағат бұрын
Watching this on my brand new MSI MAG 271QPX 240hz QD-OLED. Don't let me down, Tim.
@TheSpiritof76
@TheSpiritof76 2 сағат бұрын
Thank ou for doing this bro
@benjaminolry5849
@benjaminolry5849 10 сағат бұрын
I am using a 48" LG Oled as a monitor for more than 2 years. I have some measures in effect : automatic dimming, 5 min screensaver, and automatically hidden taskbar, brightness at 66%. I run the TV 8 to 15 hours a day and have no issues at all. Oled has come a long way and it is rly ready for the masses imho. I hope prices will come down even further.
@springmorning7177
@springmorning7177 9 сағат бұрын
thats peanuts, i had my monitor since 2016 and 0 image degradation , VA hdr pannel.
@wh3resmycar
@wh3resmycar 9 сағат бұрын
@@springmorning7177yeah, good for you that you enjoy non true blacks, black smearing, halo effect, slower response time and backlight bleed right from day1.
@WatchMysh
@WatchMysh 9 сағат бұрын
That's intersting. What's your use case? Lots of productivity?
@springmorning7177
@springmorning7177 9 сағат бұрын
@@wh3resmycar you would be surprised how easally you stop noticing imperfections if you dont look for them. To me it looks like its presenting a flawless image and i dont have to worry and babysit my monitor.
@benjaminolry5849
@benjaminolry5849 9 сағат бұрын
@@WatchMysh I use it as a "side" monitor by day when I work for 8h (discord, browser other chats all tiled over the screen) and for gaming and browsing after that.
@03chrisv
@03chrisv 4 сағат бұрын
As someone who has owned OLEDs for 10 years, from my experience you won't really notice burn in until you reach the 2000 to 2500 hour mark, and even so it'll be relatively faint and only visible under certain conditions. Once you get into the 3500 to 4000 hour mark it'll become more noticeable, but not necessarily too bad and your brain can usually ignore it. At 6000 to 7000 hours is when it'll get bad enough that you might consider replacing the display depending on your tolerance. At 10,000 hours I think most people would be annoyed by the burn in and would definitely want a new display.
@newguy1122
@newguy1122 4 сағат бұрын
my c1 has an almost perfect screen after 10k hours under the worst circumstances, all safety features in service menu turned off. Theres only a few dead pixels that you have to put your eyes completely up to the screen to see and it has to have HDR on to see.
@papiertoilette-pb9lf
@papiertoilette-pb9lf 3 сағат бұрын
Good thing then that it was 10 years ago and now you need 5000 jours minimum to even see something on a 5% grey image
@voyagerrock1137
@voyagerrock1137 3 сағат бұрын
I'm at 5000 hours and don't see any change at all from stock on a LG C3
@TheDude50447
@TheDude50447 3 сағат бұрын
So for some people an oled might not even last a single year if youre running it 24/7.
@papiertoilette-pb9lf
@papiertoilette-pb9lf 2 сағат бұрын
@@TheDude50447 rtings are running them 18 hours a day since 22 month and you only see burn in in grey area and it's because of the logo so you will have to go really hard on them and not do a single compensation cycle for it to happen
@andyderp6473
@andyderp6473 3 сағат бұрын
The legend we needed
@SportsIncorporated
@SportsIncorporated 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@notit6659
@notit6659 4 сағат бұрын
Man, I'm glad this is being done by someone.
@mellowmelee5024
@mellowmelee5024 5 сағат бұрын
Hopefully this will reassure some of the timid OLED prospects frequently found in the comments. The Burn-in Boogeyman doesn't seem so scary as long as they aren't completely reckless with the panel.
@fearisthemind-killer
@fearisthemind-killer 4 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure which is more cool; the test or the shirt.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 3 сағат бұрын
Sure it might be less than what you expected, but still... I'm still on a monitor I bought over a decade ago, and there's not a hint of burn in. This is a huge improvement over the CRT screens we used to have as those were likely to show some burn in within a decade, if they survived that long. Now as old as it is it's not a great monitor today. The big disadvantage is the refresh rate and text betting a bit blurry while scrolling. But it's a IPS monitor and that was one of the things I looked for when I bought it. It's also a 16:10 aspect ratio monitor instead of 16:9 which was something I really wanted. I still think 16:9 monitors are just to darned wide compared to their height. I have a few 4K displays and I just don't like them. I bought a 1440p monitor and it was just not for me. It had to high a PPI. Having counted on it a 32" 1440p screen should probably be about right for me. If I were to go 4K it would have to be over 40" to reach a decent PPI of about 100. But a monitor that big would either be hard to use or sit so long from me the PPI would need to be even lower. So say 50" screen, perhaps more. Now about OLED... I want a monitor with the abilities of an OLED, but it can't have any tendency for burn in and it has to have a color layout that works with clear type features. I spend over 90% with static elements on the screen. I hate dark mode and I spend about 16 hours a day at my computer every day of the week. So for the moment OLED is not for me. My next monitor will most likely be a 32" 1440p IPS monitor.
@keppycs
@keppycs 3 сағат бұрын
In what universe is a high PPI a bad thing? Is UI scaling not an option for you?
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 Сағат бұрын
@@keppycs No it's not. The scaling in windows isn't really that good. It require that applications use the "right" way of handling text and a lot of them doesn't. Another thing is games where text are often presented in bitmap format and not always is scalable. besides my eye sight has a hard time handling text when the PPI goes above about 104 and my eyes are not getting younger. So I want to keep the PPI at no more than 100 if possible. My current monitor has a PPI of 94 if I remember correctly, and more than that is really not feeling good for me.
@CitrusChrome
@CitrusChrome 8 сағат бұрын
After 2 years my Alienware aw3423dw has horrendous burn in from only video game usage while using all the built in precautions. Even worse, Dell has refused to honor the 3 year burn in Warranty stating "there's something wrong" in broken English. Other's experiences may differ but I would highly suggest considering another manufacturer based on my experience.
@TypeErrorDubs
@TypeErrorDubs 8 сағат бұрын
I was an owner of this monitor doing 1.5+ years of the exact type of work described in this video. I also got bad burn in, but Dell was actually great at honoring the OLED panel warranty for me. You have to keep pushing support. After a very in-depth proof process with their support agent, I got a brand new replacement shipped to me overnight, so it was a good experience. I actually decided to stay with Dell and get a AW3225QF when it came out because of this support. I’ll say that I believe the 3423dw being a 1st gen QD-OLED did not help and I am positive the panel maintenance cycles are fundamentally broken in firmware and not running when they should be. I had one of the first versions though, and the monitor does not allow firmware updates because of the G-Sync module, so perhaps yours is a little newer firmware, but I still wouldn’t trust it on 3423dw. The AW3235QF is a 3rd-gen panel, and I know for a fact the compensation cycle is running every ~4hrs as it should be.
@ChopperKrios
@ChopperKrios 6 сағат бұрын
I came here to say my DWF is at 2 years of mixed use and has no visible burn in. It sees 8 plus hours a day of use.
@JOKEMMM
@JOKEMMM 6 сағат бұрын
My 240hz ips panel that I bought for €750 when it came out had had a driver update 3 weeks after my 2year warranty expired, I installed it and instantly got a blue line of dead pixels on the far right side of the screen. Contacted support multiple times without succes
@CitrusChrome
@CitrusChrome 5 сағат бұрын
@@TypeErrorDubs Unfortunately they have some bug with my Warranty that non of the support can bother to deal with, I've had 3 reps tell me I'll have my exchange monitors in a few days then they just ghost and won't respond. I think this shows that when things don't go smoothly they are unwilling or unable to move you up to someone who can actually fix things. As far as the firmware, you actually can update the original models through a DP connection, it was added after the F model released and is a bit sketchy but can be done.
@CitrusChrome
@CitrusChrome 5 сағат бұрын
@@ChopperKrios I'm glad it's going well for you brother, mine's fucked though.
@victoriasteel6930
@victoriasteel6930 4 сағат бұрын
Did you have the 3 month and 9 month locations swapped a time or two? With the enhancement filters? Watched this on several different screens and could barely see the 9 month burn in but the 3 month burn in looked properly bad. How bizarre. Thank you for the content!
@Zeali
@Zeali 3 сағат бұрын
LG C2, 5315 hours(6.8 hours a day) with mixed use, task bar hidden and dark mode. No visible burn in.
@elias9074
@elias9074 8 сағат бұрын
Thanks Tim.
@PAT22287
@PAT22287 34 минут бұрын
Man I have been doing this for over a year with my OLED G9. I have 2810 hours of usage. I have no burn in but I notice it’s SLIGHTLY less bright. I measured a peak brightness of 380 bits vs the closer to 400nits of peak brightness on a 10% window.( spyder 5 used to measure). (I’m mostly in spreadsheets like Airtable and Excel.)
@jamesstevens3993
@jamesstevens3993 5 сағат бұрын
May I suggest if you do a part 2, with another monitor, please set the screen saver to come on after 1 hour. I know why it's set to 2 hours for this worst-case test, but I feel most people have screen savers closer to 1 hour. Thanks for all the testing you guys do! 👍
@trakaiszeks
@trakaiszeks 9 сағат бұрын
well done! 4 years and 3 months to go (what i expect a monitor to last as a minimum)
@mpauls85
@mpauls85 8 сағат бұрын
More like 9 years and 3 months...
@GoldenSW
@GoldenSW 6 сағат бұрын
​​​@@mpauls85I've seen budget LCD monitors last longer than 15 years with 5 days a week heavy office use. They were eventually replaced, but only because they looked outdated. Picture quality was still like the day they arrived. There's a massive difference in longevity.
@bassyey
@bassyey 4 сағат бұрын
I've had my BenQ 144Hz since 2018. No burn in lol. Though it's just for the home server now. Still works!
@MiDnYTe25
@MiDnYTe25 4 сағат бұрын
I just upgraded my ultrawide qdoled to a 480hz dual mode oled two days ago. What a timing
@keppycs
@keppycs 3 сағат бұрын
Just make sure to switch to 480Hz before opening the game. And pray the tabs on your other monitor(s) won't shift for no apparent reason because fuck Windows ^^
@milczen
@milczen 10 сағат бұрын
I'm not so sure that the vertical line in the middle is burn in, i never use my FO27Q3 that way(as in dividing the screen in the middle with two applications) and i can still see that line faintly on a 5% grey screen. It could be an inherent quality of these oled monitors from manufacturing or from how they work.
@orhnackgz
@orhnackgz 9 сағат бұрын
I have got same center vertical line in my Samsung OLED G8 when I got it newly. Heard some people say it's normal to see vertical lines in %5 percent grays and it would be less visible after the more usage and pixel refresh cycles are done. After 9 months of careful consumption, I still see it faintly from time to time. I would assume it would be manufacturing problem like you described.
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 8 сағат бұрын
The panel manufacturer needs to fire that guy on the production line who keeps folding them in half 😁
@Guwapo77
@Guwapo77 5 сағат бұрын
Thank you! I've been babying the hell out of my MSI URX... maybe I can ease up a little. I have a 3 monitor setup, I have no static images on the OLED with auto-hide feature. If I'm playing Overwatch, I'm alt tabbed until a match is selected. When it comes to World of Warcraft tho... pray for the monitor...so many static images. I always run the Panel Protect upon completion. I bought my son the AOC QD-OLED for Christmas, he's unit will be the test case. I won't say a word, I want to see how the panel stands up to a 13 year old gaming - Roblox.
@SatanDotExe
@SatanDotExe 10 сағат бұрын
I ordered a G9 OLED yesterday, I hope I'm not about to regret it 😂
@veilmontTV
@veilmontTV 9 сағат бұрын
You won't.
@WarGamersChannel
@WarGamersChannel 9 сағат бұрын
You’ll love it. OLED is just on another level. Regarding burning, I use black screen wallpaper, hide the taskbar, and keep it in SDR/low brightness when not playing games. The monitors comes with burning mitigation software that helps.
@JoeMama-yl1ow
@JoeMama-yl1ow 8 сағат бұрын
you will the g9 has a shitty interface slow and buggy and the width and height will aggravate you and when you set the screen to 27 inch it is annoying with the black bars. I have had 9 oleds now total and the two I currently use are the Alienware 32qrf for single player and the 27 inch aqdp for fps.
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 6 сағат бұрын
Dark mode, not super bright background and hide Taskbar.
@EspHack
@EspHack 3 сағат бұрын
OEMs are so terrified of burn in that they almost certainly limit brightness to the extent that this sort of use isnt rendering the screen unusable within a month, compare this to phones where display models always get a keyboard so well done you can even smell it, they're nearing 3000 nits fullscreen there, longevity be dammed
@atariplayer3686
@atariplayer3686 26 минут бұрын
Not all monitors coming out of the factory are made equal, some batches are a bit worse than others. Generally high end expensive monitors, use better quality components & go through better QA testing. The same goes for MSI MPG 321URX.
@angelispawn
@angelispawn 57 минут бұрын
I have LG CX for over 4 years now and have accumulated over 20k hours on it. Still yet to see burning that would impact my day to day usage of the thing. I did disable ABL and other burn-in prevention features about half a year into using the TV and have used it in HDR mode for over a year straight at one point without bothering to switch to and from SDR. On single color patterns I do have some signs of different wear levels, but in normal content that is invisible. The only reason I am considering switching to a newer mode is increasing number of dead pixels around the edge of the screen
@BaroK-f5n
@BaroK-f5n 10 сағат бұрын
We need to see these monitors after 2years
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 9 сағат бұрын
60 hours a week is a lot. So after one year that will equal 2-3 years of normal PC usage, and even more if you are not using desktop at peak brightness.
@firstname9845
@firstname9845 7 сағат бұрын
60 hours a week isn’t a lot if u wfh
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 4 сағат бұрын
@@firstname9845 Well then I assume miniled would be a better choice, even if it can have some blooming
@roB3rnd
@roB3rnd 8 сағат бұрын
As I see it, there are two options. 1. heavily use it and RMA it before 3 years, or 2. rub a second monitor alongside it for static content e.g.: browsing, working, chat
@jimbles5071
@jimbles5071 5 сағат бұрын
I would like to hear from MSI users who have used the 3 year warranty. I feel like it will be a right pain the arse to deal with their customer service, return and get a new one.
@hoofhearted4
@hoofhearted4 3 сағат бұрын
This is nice to see. I'm still debating if I want to go 21:9 (34") or 32:9 (49") for my next monitor. I dont play competitive games. but I still hear that 32:9 isnt good for gaming. since not everything natively supports it, and you can get stretched pictures trying to fit.
@kwazar6725
@kwazar6725 9 сағат бұрын
Nice work. Will buy oled when this is better
@umeng2002
@umeng2002 3 сағат бұрын
Not putting the monitor to sleep after a minute or two is a big deal because when you're away from the desk, the screen is just static. I "burned in" an IPS display like that, but I was able to recover it after a few weeks of constant pixel refreshing apps.
@manhdepzai2k3
@manhdepzai2k3 7 сағат бұрын
best review channel
@landoishisname
@landoishisname 9 сағат бұрын
"we'll keep monitoring things" I get it
@R0x0r
@R0x0r 10 сағат бұрын
This is pretty much how I use my monitor too so seeing it would be pretty much unusable after 2/3 years means oleds are still a no-go for me. I would like my monitor to last at least 5 years with my usage like they have till now. Maybe in a few more years some breakthrough happens, hopefully
@SuperMrGilles
@SuperMrGilles 4 сағат бұрын
I have the same monitor. I use it from home atleast three days a week to do word, excel, coding etc. Been really loving it, I love the OLED screen and the colours, looks so much better than the best IPS screens out there.
@JohnnyFlash-
@JohnnyFlash- Сағат бұрын
Because burn-in is heat related, I'm willing bet that brightness maps to burn-in on a curve, not a linear line.
@StaySic4Ever
@StaySic4Ever 4 сағат бұрын
Cool to see this. Can only imagine years down the line heh. But overall looking decent so far. The so called MAX OLED hopefully becomes the norm.
@UbergamR447
@UbergamR447 9 сағат бұрын
great video! thank you :)
@Moonbogg
@Moonbogg 10 сағат бұрын
I stopped stressing and complaining and finally bit the bullet and bought the DWF 34". It was $650 at Best Buy on black friday sale and I pick it up later today. So I figured that was a reasonable price to experiment with OLED, realizing it will likely burn in on me.
@veilmontTV
@veilmontTV 9 сағат бұрын
Don't abuse it and you'll have 10k hours on it without any problems.
@Vincent-v9q
@Vincent-v9q 9 сағат бұрын
MSI 321urx - 3rd generation qd-oled. DWF 34 is 2nd generation qd-oled. 2nd generation is much more susceptible to burnout.
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 9 сағат бұрын
I wish I could afford one, but $650 is so expensive for me
@casedistorted
@casedistorted 9 сағат бұрын
@@Vincent-v9q Don't give him buyer's remorse bro, let him enjoy!
@johngalactus4014
@johngalactus4014 9 сағат бұрын
@@Vincent-v9q Not a monitor person, so this is a bit new to me. Didn't know there is already a 3rd gen QD-OLED! Thanks for the info. My next display will likely be OLED, so this is a good point to take into consideration.
@Ahnii
@Ahnii 8 сағат бұрын
Really appreciate the in depth testing and regular updates on this one! Could you maybe do a video about (preferably high end) 4k and ultrawide monitors suitable for mixed to office workloads (like the one you showed in this video)? I'm studying computer science and want to upgrade from my (10? year) old 24" IPS but given the amount of coding/ productive work I do, I don't feel comfortable buying an expensive OLED knowing it will probably only last the 3-year warranty at max at the same time I really struggle to find good IPS monitors with 120hz+, good color accuracy (native 10bit and low delta e). I tried looking for reviews from you and while you always say OLED aren't suitable for mixed workloads, there don't seem to be any viable alternatives... Thanks in advance for taking the time to read this:)
@KoseChris
@KoseChris 10 сағат бұрын
That is why i always try to make one task a little bigger then other when using them side by side, windows puts the split right in the middle. i think windows could make an option here, to make the sizes of 2 tasks side by side a little varied (possibly even adapt to the content) for oled users.
@Emmbedd
@Emmbedd 6 сағат бұрын
I was going to say it, 9 months after seems like the burn in line become better
@Blue-cq2hl
@Blue-cq2hl 4 сағат бұрын
I know that this is a torture test but it's really why I really don't want to go with oled and this is really informative compared to a lot of other stuff out there. Impressive that it's that little though but I've had it happen on my phone.
@RFC3514
@RFC3514 4 сағат бұрын
"Compensation cycles" disguise burn-in by burning the _rest_ of the panel, so it would be more informative to do this with no compensation cycles (for at least 6 or 12 months) to see the real effects of burn-in, then do some compensation cycles until the burn-in becomes unnoticeable, and see how that affects the panel as a whole (i.e., any changes in gamut / gamma / contrast).
@rrrrexx
@rrrrexx Сағат бұрын
What about peak brightness? Is it much lower after time?
@Miish3lov
@Miish3lov 3 сағат бұрын
Another Merch Idea: Black T-shirt with white text that says: "1000000:1" *the text has to be 1000 nits peak brightness
@agiverreviga4592
@agiverreviga4592 7 сағат бұрын
Would the current WOLED monitors hold better with burn in?
@BuckstarrZ
@BuckstarrZ 9 сағат бұрын
I would love to see new measurements regarding colors and brightness, too.
@chrsMD
@chrsMD 2 сағат бұрын
Great news, burn-in healed itself after 3 months, which to me looks far worse than the resultrs after 6 and 9 months.
@Winnetou17
@Winnetou17 4 сағат бұрын
Ok, the brightness is still good. I'm a bit surprised of that, I expected that the "improved" burn-in of the vertical bar to be the area being more burned-in, more consistently. That is, no longer a line of pixels are burned, but the whole area is a bit more burned, so the vertical line stands out less. Any chance to test the color accuracy, if it's still up on par ? And maybe the brightness on the problematic areas ?
@inceptionsd
@inceptionsd 9 сағат бұрын
Taskbar burn-in is not caused by degradation, but in contrary, the lighter use of the pixels in that area (since the taskbar is dark in color), so technically its the rest of the screen thats burnt-in :)
@andytroo
@andytroo 9 сағат бұрын
which is weird because the brightness of the rest of the display hasn't faded?
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