Dell G5 SE Improved With Updates? Revisiting Gaming + Thermals

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Jarrod'sTech

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@hisnameis28
@hisnameis28 4 жыл бұрын
Revisiting old products is such an important thing that reviewers need to focus on, since it's closer to what users will experience in the long run. Thanks a lot!
@Jonas-ej7id
@Jonas-ej7id 4 жыл бұрын
True
@sideswipe604
@sideswipe604 4 жыл бұрын
This laptop is the only reasonably priced gaming laptop in India apart from the Tuf series and maybe the Helios 300
@shahan1465
@shahan1465 4 жыл бұрын
nobody cares about the curry nation
@krissvtar8912
@krissvtar8912 4 жыл бұрын
Dont buy Tuf, dont, they are of bad quality
@parthkumar5472
@parthkumar5472 4 жыл бұрын
Hp omen bhi acha laga mujhe
@sideswipe604
@sideswipe604 4 жыл бұрын
@@parthkumar5472 acha hai but still overpriced
@aswinaugustine5308
@aswinaugustine5308 4 жыл бұрын
@@sideswipe604 there's a 1660ti omen for 85k in flipkart
@RecklessTurtle
@RecklessTurtle 4 жыл бұрын
Love the note in the CPU temperature graph: "Lower is better" 🤣
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
Just in case 😎
@arthurgiovanni8907
@arthurgiovanni8907 4 жыл бұрын
@MemeMan hey bro, do you want a scholarship?
@TitaniumTronic
@TitaniumTronic 4 жыл бұрын
@MemeMan but have you tried the acer nitro 5 2020 The battery lasts for less than 2 hours and goes up to 90 degrees celcious when you even just watch youtube on it I shouldn't have just gotten a damn pc WHY did I bother on portability sooo much?!?!
@RmFrZQ
@RmFrZQ 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta be consistent always. I like it.
@taufiqislam8935
@taufiqislam8935 4 жыл бұрын
I paid for the whole cpu, i'll use the whole cpu
@bubbleezzz4942
@bubbleezzz4942 4 жыл бұрын
While Smartshift is a good idea in theory, I think the execution failed with this laptop. I own a Dell G5 SE and I've kinda figured out how Smartshift works. The total shared power(115 W) goes through the CPU first, and then the GPU gets its share. For example, when under both CPU and GPU load, CPU Power readings will show 115 Watts and GPU Power will show 70 Watts. This means the CPU is using 45 W to boost its clocks and sends the remaining 70 to the GPU. But this doesn't work as intended because the 115 W cooks the CPU, at least it does to my 4800H. The GPU almost never sees full utilization because CPU starts throttling immediately. 4800H and 5600M are beasts on their own but they're ironically crippled by Smartshift. Disabling CPU boost through power plans as many people on the Internet suggested actually fixes the bigger part of this problem. But I've experienced crashes on some games with the boost off, whereas I don't have them with the boost on. My guess is that disabling CPU boost confuses SmartShift and causes crashes. Disabling boost isn't a favorable solution anyway as you give up CPU performance. Let's take a look at GTA V as an example: CPU Boost: On Settings: High-ish Average FPS: Around 100 Temps: 95-105°C CPU, 61°C GPU CPU Boost: Off Settings: High-ish Average FPS: 85 Temps: 60°C CPU, 55-60°C GPU CPU Boost: Off Settings: Very High Average FPS: 85 Temps: 80°C CPU, 80°C GPU As you can see, especially between the second and third tests, the CPU temps differed significantly even if they were pretty much putting in the same amount of work. That's because in the third test GPU requested more power to keep up with higher settings and this extra power also went through the CPU first. Second test had 60-70 W CPU Power while third test had around 90 W and the increase was equal in GPU Power. This is the flaw of Smartshift in Dell G5 SE, CPU has to endure both its own and the GPU's power so it turns into an oven even on GPU heavy loads.
@pritamlaskar
@pritamlaskar 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man great input! Makes a lot of sense. I just got the 4600h model. So what do you propose for temps as low as possible WITH playable FPS, I don't care if 20% reduction happens in gaming performance
@bubbleezzz4942
@bubbleezzz4942 4 жыл бұрын
@@pritamlaskar My current setup is leaving everything as Dell intended with an agressive custom fan curve in Alienware Command Center, using it on a cooling pad. I use the latest Dell provided drivers with no other third-party software. As you probably noticed this isn't the most stable laptop and it's prone to crash even more if you tinker with it much. It might be just my bad luck but I remember getting crashes more often when I disabled CPU boost or when I capped FPS to get better thermals. Your 4600h model will probably do better in gaming as there isn't much difference in gaming performance between 4600h and 4800h, but 4600h should need less power for itself and have more to spare for the GPU. Create a new thermal profile in Alienware Command Center(AWCC) and set up an agressive fan curve for both the cpu fan and the system fan. Scan installed games with AWCC and assign them your new thermal profile. Your fans will work accordingly to your fan curve now and you'll eliminate the problem of passive fans. Keep AWCC minimized before launching games. Also, you can hit Fn+F7 to enable AWCC high performance mode which sets your power plan to high performance and runs your fans at constant max speed. It's loud and may shorten your fans' lifetime but better your fans than your CPU. I use this mode for demanding games. If you're willing, you can use Ryzan Controller and set custom TDP values for your CPU. Keep in mind that the TDP that you set for your CPU will also be used by the GPU, so setting it to the default 45 TDP will be crippling. I'd suggest going around 90 TDP if you're going to use Ryzen Controller, but again we don't know how Smartshift operates and playing with these values is swimming in deep waters. For example, I didn't know at the time that CPU power would be shared with GPU and I was surprised at how awful the performance was with 45 TDP.
@randommonkey4900
@randommonkey4900 2 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to return mine to get an intel and nvidia laptop that smart shift just bottle necks my 5600m too much
@jasonwong9058
@jasonwong9058 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update, I've finally gotten off the fence and ordered one of these because of your updated review regarding the thermals. At $900 Canadian it seems like a decent deal and I probably won't have buyer's remorse now :)!
@codecampbase1525
@codecampbase1525 4 жыл бұрын
Same situation although haven’t bought one yet. Would you to report back once it arrives? Hope you will have lots of fun with it already!
@Royan1900
@Royan1900 4 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me where you found it for $900 CAD? Thanks! I found it for $1000 on sell (down from $1200)
@adeshkumarkumar8801
@adeshkumarkumar8801 3 жыл бұрын
Hows this laptop going bro we in india have this and 3050 dell g5 at same price And i am confused between two
@nosc0pe
@nosc0pe 4 жыл бұрын
This is good. however, I'd rather buy last year's model than buy this year's model, as this looks like a sandwich press
@tytlyf
@tytlyf 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this update is worthless. He's using old AMD drivers. 20.12.1 is much more powerful than whatever old driver he's using.
@nge-ngeserino6988
@nge-ngeserino6988 4 жыл бұрын
@@tytlyf that driver update only supports for the rx 6000 series and cbp2077.
@shivabisht8023
@shivabisht8023 3 жыл бұрын
@@tytlyf Dell G5 has different drivers line up more like drivers specifically for Dell G5
@Star-fr4jz
@Star-fr4jz 4 жыл бұрын
Your voice is therapeutic. Love your videos!
@codecampbase1525
@codecampbase1525 4 жыл бұрын
So It is so weird when you upload an video exactly for what I was looking for (even though you said others asked you too). I watched your June video and the color and temps turned me away from this device. Still haven’t bought a laptop as I waited for the m1 chips. For some reasons I came back to this laptop (probably because of the price and the full amd setup). I also don’t find the color now that bad and heard about the rumors that the temperatures are now fixed. And now you made the video! Awesome!
@jamesm.2322
@jamesm.2322 4 жыл бұрын
Reviewer -> with the RX5600M firmware in place we can now use Ryzen Controller (RyzenADJ) to thermally limit the CPU by telling the smartshift controller how much total power is allowed. Setting the Thermal limit will drop over all laptop/system performance but for some games (MMOs like WoW, ESO, GW2, and heavy CPU games) where the GPU is not hit hard (60% or so) This can lock the CPU at 85c-88c and maintain 4.125Ghz for the PPT period down to 3.6-2.8Ghz after. Be mindful that this will limit the power split between the CPU+GPU for games that heavily hit the GPU and cause the CPU to 'break' and drop clocks to 1.3ghz-2.1ghz while the GPU is under heavy loads (Cyberpunk2077 shows this beautifully). Currently there is no way to 'unload' Ryzen Controller without a reboot, so just make sure you do not auto start the application so you can 'unload' it when you want higher GPU usage. But its a nice way to control thermals when you want/need to.
@ManasBhasin
@ManasBhasin 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod, I am a G315 2020 user which has the same design as the G515 . The main thing is that the hinges of both these laptops are really bad .The hinge is made up of cheap plastic and there have been hinge popping issues for these laptop users. The hinge breaking off issue happens usually in 6-12 months of purchase. This leads the user to get it replaced and it costs around 150-200$.So instead of the MRP, there is a price of 150-200$ per year of getting the hinge replaced our own pockets. So it is actually better to choose another laptop instead of this , as you spend 600 - 800$ for hinge replacements in its lifetime (Or buy a 300$ warranty).
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@vern4786
@vern4786 4 жыл бұрын
So, its good but the Legion 5 is still better i assume?
@silentcreeper3506
@silentcreeper3506 4 жыл бұрын
Way better
@superchargdsoul
@superchargdsoul 4 жыл бұрын
I own the G5. Legion is better.
@codeHusky
@codeHusky 4 жыл бұрын
Infinitely better, yes, lol
@UltraDXSASC
@UltraDXSASC 4 жыл бұрын
The Legion and the OMEN
@itsmrdante6274
@itsmrdante6274 4 жыл бұрын
The Omen 15 is the best laptop you can get right now. Unless you don't want a webcam then the Asus
@chrischrischrischrischrischriz
@chrischrischrischrischrischriz 4 жыл бұрын
You are awesome. I asked you yesterday and now there is a video that answers my question. Thank you 🤩🤩🤩
@asapmoa7598
@asapmoa7598 3 жыл бұрын
That t-shirt sure bring back memories 😭
@Ku6epIIe4eHe7
@Ku6epIIe4eHe7 4 жыл бұрын
Briefly, they have tuned thermals which has led to a deteriorated performance in some games.
@InconsisTenZ
@InconsisTenZ 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.. I'm seeing better performance.. Idk the reason tho
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, not a bad trade. I usually limit the boost on my laptops to keep them cool and quiet anyway.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair enough seems to be what a lot end up doing based on the comments.
@noonerelevant2583
@noonerelevant2583 4 жыл бұрын
But... Cyberpunk 2077...
@valkyr989
@valkyr989 3 жыл бұрын
Got the laptop on sale nearly 40% off. It is coming by end of July. Looking forward
@michalnowacki1489
@michalnowacki1489 4 жыл бұрын
The slight performance drop is definitely a preferable alternative to higher temps, though it is interesting how some games have seen a boost in fps and others have not. Maybe the Windows or drivers update also had something to do with it?
@bfish9700
@bfish9700 4 жыл бұрын
This makes me optimistic for a 5800H + 6700M model this year. I hope they give a more premium unit a more upmarket look (that look would be fine for 5600H + 6500M) but this gives me another thing to be excited about at CES.
@abhinavssj4
@abhinavssj4 3 жыл бұрын
This video has convinced me to buy the MSI GF65. Thanks, appreciate the update.
@somemore9784
@somemore9784 3 жыл бұрын
If you take the mesh off the vents on the inside of the laptop it makes the performance better. I finally did it and dropped 20c when playing far cry 6. Just not sure how much dust is going to get into it now.
@kharis6770
@kharis6770 4 жыл бұрын
Woaaa, you got me click right away! Thanks for this comparison!
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@talkandplay
@talkandplay 3 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Any chance you can review the new Dell G5 /G15, which had a refresh recently, perhaps you are still waiting on Dell to ship one out to you.
@zaxtersaad
@zaxtersaad 3 жыл бұрын
Did you install the latest AMD/graphics drivers from Dell, or the AMD website? Did you use the specific version for this model or the generic latest driver package? Cheers!
@JC_BOY
@JC_BOY 3 жыл бұрын
The Driver in the video is the same from Dell's site. For me Dell's provided driver gives better performance, but it removes the AMD Adrenalin Software for me. does it do that for you too?
@zery6040
@zery6040 3 жыл бұрын
@@JC_BOY Yeap
@parthkumar5472
@parthkumar5472 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you i bought it yesterday 💜
@Diaahero555
@Diaahero555 3 жыл бұрын
Do u recommend me buying it?
@bitchwormpuddin1499
@bitchwormpuddin1499 3 жыл бұрын
@@Diaahero555 hey i also have it! you should. if you really need a gaming pc but also dont have space for a desktop get this. it performs well and is fast in games and on browsers. although the battery life, as expected, is poor and if youre gaming always play in a cool room and stay plugged in :P
@Diaahero555
@Diaahero555 3 жыл бұрын
@@bitchwormpuddin1499 thank you bro, I bought before a month a asus laptop, anyways thanks for the comment:)
@DFDuck55
@DFDuck55 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered a G5 15 SE with Ryzen 9, 16GB RAM, 1TB HD. Not for games, but to edit video on. I should have it within a couple weeks. I'm not too worried about reports of an overly warm keyboard, I plan to use a USB keyboard and mouse with it.
@nikhilrauniyar9084
@nikhilrauniyar9084 4 жыл бұрын
petition to add Cyberpunk 2077 to the testing games
@ajiljagadeesh1143
@ajiljagadeesh1143 4 жыл бұрын
@Jarrord'sTech make this happen
@tearlach47
@tearlach47 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps because the game will be receiving performance updates for a long while, performance benchmarking could potentially be pretty different in a few months depending how much the updates can further optimize it. It is a very new game still atm
@stephansam537
@stephansam537 4 жыл бұрын
He explained at another video(in a comment) that the benchmarks until January are already made without that game so don't expect it until then
@Waggel86
@Waggel86 4 жыл бұрын
Would make more sense at a later date IMHO. Benchmark charts are always influenced by patches and drivers over time. But with the state the game is in, I suspect that benchmarks made with the current version will become irrelevant very fast.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
I will start testing it next year, all videos up until CES were created before the game came out and I won't have new gaming laptops until after that time.
@OWNORDISOWN
@OWNORDISOWN 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Jarrod !
@simono.w.2995
@simono.w.2995 4 жыл бұрын
Dutch user here! I bought a G3 for €999. (Stock G5 is €1150+ and AMD version NOT available) Hoping to do 6+ years with it. (I don't run heavy games, stuff like War thunder mostly) In my country the AMD versions of the legion 5 suck (1650 gtx only, atleast for now), intel ones are over €1150, and the HP omen is even more expensive at €1200+ for the gpu/cpu version I opted for. An alternative would've been a TUF A15 with the same cpu but with an rtx 2060 for €50 more. However, I hated the oh so apparent looks, and well... It's an A15. My G3 has the 10750h and gtx 1660ti. I'm happy with it, but what do other viewers think? Did I make a "mistake" not buying the Legion 5(i) or an Omen, which are both far more expensive? And why? SIDENOTE: I am aware of the "problems" this series carry (in some cases) but I liked the "stealthy" design, card slots, performance and... Price, most importantly.
@ahkilmathew2936
@ahkilmathew2936 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the updated review , cheers
@aaronwarrington9139
@aaronwarrington9139 3 жыл бұрын
dont know if its all systems but mine was having siezures whenever i played games. turn off image sharpening as it messes with the newest drivers. found this out after 3 months and sending it away for repairs about a million times lol
@mattbroughton750
@mattbroughton750 3 жыл бұрын
Same issue. Did sell fix it for you?
@andriikoshman2946
@andriikoshman2946 4 жыл бұрын
So, actually as hot as a knew G7, which also hits 99 tempr. right? It can broke in a year with such high tempreatures((
@terranova9838
@terranova9838 4 жыл бұрын
This is fine but, I think they'll have to redo it next year, what was it called... the Legion 5 totally stole this year
@deltadelta666
@deltadelta666 3 жыл бұрын
Is this laptop loud and does it get loud when u charge it
@hugohom2280
@hugohom2280 4 жыл бұрын
hello, how did you update the vbios? using the dell update app or with something else? thank you
@nge-ngeserino6988
@nge-ngeserino6988 4 жыл бұрын
you can also go to their support dell website.. updates are displayed over there.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
It's available from the Dell support site or AMD site.
@hugohom2280
@hugohom2280 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech thanks man, you always respond to my comments super fast!
@nge-ngeserino6988
@nge-ngeserino6988 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech could you tell us the specific name for the radeon drivers? tnx, im so noob :(
@halilerkan4463
@halilerkan4463 4 жыл бұрын
So, now where this laptop stands in your Ryzen 2020 laptop ranking?
@AhmadSaad-pv4wo
@AhmadSaad-pv4wo 4 жыл бұрын
Well I got the g5 SE highest spec version for 950$ so I'm happy with the value im getting for that price
@jaybayer3670
@jaybayer3670 3 жыл бұрын
So I wound up taking a risk and bought this. I got it for 700$ and it was the right price for the specs. I think the highest I've seen the cpu get is 88. The graphics card very rarely ever goes above 80. HOWEVER. You have to START with gmode / max fans *before* you open a game. some of the more cpu intensive games I've tried have almost instantly overheated. I haven't seen 90 degrees yet with the fans on. (And yes, it's loud. I almost always have to use a headset.) It is what is. You obviously get what you pay for with this but Its able to play games and I saved about 300$ from other options I was looking at, and that's good enough for me.
@abdulmoizhussain1813
@abdulmoizhussain1813 4 жыл бұрын
so should i buy this or not ? and this laptop survived next 3/4 years ? i am so confused 🤷‍♀️.
@knotme5349
@knotme5349 4 жыл бұрын
With a cooling pad and Ryzen controller it runs around 75-80°C. And for this price range it's the only best option available in India. We pay over 1100$ for this kind of a machine or we could go for the gtx 1650 or 1660ti for more money. Rtx is like 1400$ range.
@mattbroughton750
@mattbroughton750 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get a ryzen controller?
@knotme5349
@knotme5349 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattbroughton750 google
@JC_BOY
@JC_BOY 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone with the latest Gpu Driver from Dell's site (the one on the video), does installing the new driver, remove the amd adrenaline software for you, because for me it does.
@dilanthawijesinghe
@dilanthawijesinghe 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought this today Jarrod, can you let me know how you updated this? Is it through dell's support software and amd's adrenaline?
@ilhammohd3077
@ilhammohd3077 4 жыл бұрын
update both.check all driver
@battlewing221
@battlewing221 4 жыл бұрын
main updates you should do are the Navi 10 firmware, GPU drivers and the BIOS V 1.4.4 . You can get adrenalin software from AMD's website, GPU firmware and system firmware from Dell website.
@dilanthawijesinghe
@dilanthawijesinghe 4 жыл бұрын
@@ilhammohd3077 sure will, thanks
@dilanthawijesinghe
@dilanthawijesinghe 4 жыл бұрын
@@battlewing221 I'll check it out, thanks man
@battlewing221
@battlewing221 4 жыл бұрын
@@dilanthawijesinghe we have subreddit exclusive for G5 users, if you need more help you can come down there
@neural3783
@neural3783 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! 😃
@hambeast3966
@hambeast3966 3 жыл бұрын
Considering buying one of these. Everything else in the same price range is running a 1650.
@scottstamm7022
@scottstamm7022 3 жыл бұрын
I finally pulled the trigger, and got one. Dell has the 4900H/5600M on sale, so I jumped on it.
@savp2293
@savp2293 3 жыл бұрын
Can you give me your thoughts, on sale here in Australia so I've been thinking about it.
@scottstamm7022
@scottstamm7022 3 жыл бұрын
@@savp2293 someone saw me playing games on it this weekend, and couldn't believe the specs and game quality. Game I was playing was CoD:MW. However, I have improved upon Dell's cooling solution, because it's a bit lackluster. Needs better paste, pads, and gap taped up between IHS fins and fans. Needless to say they're going to wait until it goes on sale then they're going to buy one.
@atabg
@atabg 4 жыл бұрын
Would definitely prefer the lower temps. I rma'd my last laptop because it would constantly and frequently go over 105 degrees celsius and throttle to 500Mhz which resulted in 3 fps for 10 seconds. Its definitely better to get 2 fps less on avg.
@zidanrafifpratama
@zidanrafifpratama 2 жыл бұрын
Change thermal paste i have been ther thermal right is best choose tf 8
@atabg
@atabg 2 жыл бұрын
@@zidanrafifpratama I reapplied the thermal paste with an MX-4 and still didnt solve the issue. It was an asus tuf model which they have blocked all the air intakes so it was ASUS' fault
@zidanrafifpratama
@zidanrafifpratama 2 жыл бұрын
@@atabg yup you are right i make more vent to the fan and it work holding the cpu to 75°c you can use manual CNC to do that
@zidanrafifpratama
@zidanrafifpratama 2 жыл бұрын
@@atabg wait i see the mx4 just can do 8w.m/k right? The TF8 can do 13.8w.m/k but the thermal paste can hold it just 1 week if you have heavy load but still can hold the temprature
@atabg
@atabg 2 жыл бұрын
@@zidanrafifpratama yeah i was either gonna sell or manual cnc and i went with selling it
@lugia5491
@lugia5491 4 жыл бұрын
So if anyone can help me , I am between this laptop and Lenovo Legion 5 5ARH05 (Ryzen 7-4800H/16GB/512GB/GeForce GTX 1650/FHD/W10,120hz) , what do you suggest? Lenovo has the 1650Ti not 1660 , in case you didnt see it. Thanks in advance
@lugia5491
@lugia5491 4 жыл бұрын
@jarrod'sTech would appreciate any comment !
@hellofesam2636
@hellofesam2636 4 жыл бұрын
I would go for the Dell, much better GPU and much better than the Lenovo 120 Hz screen (which has terrible color accuracy.
@lugia5491
@lugia5491 4 жыл бұрын
@@hellofesam2636 yeah I was thinking the same , do you think the 200bucks more to get the 144hz 1660Ti is worth it ?
@hellofesam2636
@hellofesam2636 4 жыл бұрын
@@lugia5491 It’s worth it since it can play all currently released games at Ultra/High for 1080p gaming. Also you’d be able to take advantage of the 144Hz screen on most games.
@FabledFew
@FabledFew 4 жыл бұрын
An important question: has anyone ever had a laptop fail because it was running at 90-95c when playing games/rendering? If the CPU is rated at being capable of running up to 100c, then potentially what is the danger of running at 90-95c?
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think there is any danger tbh. Never had an Intel processor fail ever.
@FabledFew
@FabledFew 4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMaranophotography That's what I have heard from most people, too. People do talk about the higher temps reducing the longevity of the laptop, but in this day and age, if your laptop works for 2-3 years, then you gotta replace it soon, anyway. A 3 year old laptop in 2020 might as well be ancient history.
@yiex151
@yiex151 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, I've had so many problems with this laptop. The original didn't work properly. The replacement that got sent doesn't work properly either. Now it's hard for me to get another replacement. They keep saying it's out of policy. But like, I have a warranty and the complete care/ accidental damage service! Really!?
@shauryasahu8813
@shauryasahu8813 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Jarrod Can u please make a video on upgrading the Dell G5 SE ? Espicially the HDD upgrade!
@hehebohey3747
@hehebohey3747 Жыл бұрын
Dell G5 15 5500 2.5 hard drive installation Hello Community, Just bought a new Dell G5 15 5500 with only an M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive. According to the manual, it can support an M.2 and a 2.5 HD. When trying to install the 2.5, it does not fit. I have the smaller battery that does not cover the HD bay so that's not the problem. Has anyone been able to get a 2.5 HD installed in their system? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
@mangeshdaspute4136
@mangeshdaspute4136 4 жыл бұрын
We would love to see temperature and performance after *repasting* with a better thermal compound.
@LiveType
@LiveType 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I immediately liquid metal all my laptops and honestly haven't looked back. Yeah it's a little tedious as you have to reapply it down the line for it to be permanent with the crappy laptop heatspreaders but performance has only ever improved and noise levels always go down. Temps stay about the same but that's how modern laptops work.
@MonsieurX12
@MonsieurX12 4 жыл бұрын
@@LiveType Do you have any good guide for using liquid metal in laptop ?
@LiveType
@LiveType 4 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurX12 There's a bunch on youtube. Main thing is to apply as little as possible as all problems I've seen stem from applying too much. Apply a small amount to a swab and spread it around until you get a layer of it evenly spread on the die and heatsink. It may take a bit of you have a super polished surface as the liquid metal won't initially adhere due to the high surface tension. If you get it on other things just use isopropyl alcohol and wipe it off. Nail polish/tape over the smds helps if you're sketched out and adds some extra peace of mind but I've legitimately never seen the nail polish actually be useful. After you've done one application do another in a few months as the liquid metal will react away with the copper turning into a silver copper-gallium alloy. Nothing to be concerned about just need to apply more. Thermal performance will technically drop slightly as the alloy is less conductive than pure copper but still an order of magnitude more conductive than thermal paste. Also should've mentioned make sure the heatsink plate is solid copper. Scratch away a portion of the heatsink away from the center. It should remain copper colored. If it's silver after scratching away the copper that means the heatsink is aluminium and shouldn't be used with liquid metal.
@MonsieurX12
@MonsieurX12 4 жыл бұрын
@@LiveType thanks, i was kinda worried about the creation of intermetallics but if it stabilize after adding more metal it should be fine. I've ordered the Dell G5 and was worried about thermals so your comment reassure me quite a bit.
@mangeshdaspute4136
@mangeshdaspute4136 4 жыл бұрын
@@LiveType how much does the performance improve after liquid metal? how many FPS gains, multicore clock frequency increase, cinebench R20 score increase?
@scottstamm7022
@scottstamm7022 3 жыл бұрын
Just joined a G5 SE community (reddit and discord) apparently the quality control department is asleep at the wheel! Lots of people doing upgrades or pulling apart to do repasted jobs and finding protective plastic still on one side of the thermal pads on the M.2! Then on the VRM's, we're seeing thermal adhesive on the back between pad/IHS which isn't optimal at 1.5W.m/k thermal transfer capabilities. Please check yours and report back.
@PeterS94
@PeterS94 2 жыл бұрын
I reviewed your last video on taking care of a gaming laptop. For the G5 SE, does the laptop have optimus for external monitor? Also, is there a charge level limit to extend battery life? Thanks!
@prsnt777
@prsnt777 2 жыл бұрын
anyone know I have the 60hz version of DELL G5 SE . If I buy the 144hz screen from ebay and replace it would that be compatible? considering will buy cable etc
@jerrylopez153
@jerrylopez153 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my dell G5 SEE for about eight months now and at first I played games like Apex legends when it was new and then ran at very good frame rates in high settings. Due to college I couldn’t played FPS or Battle Royales for the last six months. I tried playing some rFortnite it’s struggling quite a bit even in medium settings at 30 fps with sudden frame drops. Idk if it’s slow due to programs or sum but any advice would be greatly appreciated
@no1554ify
@no1554ify 4 жыл бұрын
Thats an improvement tho but its still kinda hot XD does using ryzen controller make it more cooler?
@kuzonCS2
@kuzonCS2 4 жыл бұрын
How to get cinebench R20 on windows 10? I go to Microsoft Store and it only shows cinebench r23
@chriswright8074
@chriswright8074 4 жыл бұрын
There website I presume
@danieldyotte6721
@danieldyotte6721 3 жыл бұрын
Suggest me a good driver and bios system update where my laptop runs while gaming coz it shuts of within 10 minutes of game play
@r0yalz_r3be1
@r0yalz_r3be1 4 жыл бұрын
Try manually maxing the fans. I’m fairly certain it doesn’t run the fans at maximum when stock.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
From memory the speeds I got when gaming in G mode were the same as manually setting to max anyway, I'd have to double check the full review.
@AdrianUzumakii
@AdrianUzumakii 4 жыл бұрын
How do you max them to full manually?
@r0yalz_r3be1
@r0yalz_r3be1 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech Hardware Canucks’ review shows the fans being manually being maxed and the laptop clocking higher and matching an RTX 2060 equipped laptop (idk which one).
@redrax8877
@redrax8877 3 жыл бұрын
In our country, Dell G5 SE and Lenovo Legion are both available but the Legion is with Ryzen 7 4800H with a 1650 GPU. Prices are similar though. What is more worthy?
@shagbeme
@shagbeme 3 жыл бұрын
I opened mine up and ripped out the bottom mesh covering the air vents. My laptop was hitting 90 degrees+ now it seems not to get past 75. Seems to run alooot cooler now. Can anyone else confirm this?
@SAURABHSINGH-wl8op
@SAURABHSINGH-wl8op 4 жыл бұрын
I was just browsing on this issue..as I had to buy a laptop ## it's like you read my mind..thanks Jared...do I go for this or go for legion 5 with same CPU specs and gtx 1650 ti
@ayushsingh2623
@ayushsingh2623 4 жыл бұрын
I think thermals are a important factor in laptops and the new update reduces the temps hence overall better for the longevity of the system
@CADDesigns
@CADDesigns 3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to buy this. Now, Is there any thermal heat problems ? And Suggest any best laptop for Mechanical Design and Analysis Software. And Video editing, rendering performance also.
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 3 жыл бұрын
It's on the hotter side compared to alternatives if you are smashing it with consistent heavy loads. That said it still runs fine and I haven't heard of these things dying due to heat.
@echidnuttt9326
@echidnuttt9326 4 жыл бұрын
BRO I just bought it today morning!
@Diaahero555
@Diaahero555 3 жыл бұрын
Do u recommend me buying it
@michaelthompson9798
@michaelthompson9798 4 жыл бұрын
Very good follow up on the G5 😆👍 I would prefer a few extra degrees and lil extra performance from the a newer update to the G5 to remove the reversed disparity currently see . Love your content 🥰🥰👍🇦🇺. Thanks JT, cheers 🍻
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! Cheers 👍
@Pruflas-Watts
@Pruflas-Watts 4 жыл бұрын
I wanted to like this laptop so much. The Aesthetic is decent, the specs are good, the AMD CPU + GPU is a rare and potent mixture, and AMD GPU tech tends to age with grace like fine wine, compared to Nvidia.... But the thermals get in the way of this being one of the best laptops for the money. I ended up getting the Lenovo Legion 5 with the 4800h + 1660ti for $999, and couldn't be happier with the purchase.
@ally3638
@ally3638 3 жыл бұрын
Question: i'm buying this in a couple of weeks, but im also a college student, and i was wondering if the fan is relatively quiet during regular old light work such as essay writing, ect.?
@Ajitkumar-ob7fn
@Ajitkumar-ob7fn 3 жыл бұрын
it will remain quiet. fan starts while gaming
@nge-ngeserino6988
@nge-ngeserino6988 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jarrod, did you upgraded the RAM from 8GB to 16GB? Or haven't?
@andymath1523
@andymath1523 3 жыл бұрын
Have this laptop with R5 4600H very pleased with gaming performance but having problems with VR Oculus link I have to disable onboard Vega graphics to get link to work . Virtual desktop works but frame rate seems low on both Oculus link / V desktop until you connect a monitor ? then VR on oculus works great ,have got around at moment with dummy monitor plug in Hdmi . Any one any ideas why ?
@rajwindersingh7206
@rajwindersingh7206 3 жыл бұрын
Can i buy this laptop in 2021 august ? And as you say updating it can give better result in performance and thermals so what do you suggest should i buy it? And please leave the links to update the softwaresss
@nge-ngeserino6988
@nge-ngeserino6988 4 жыл бұрын
thank you JT!! one of my most anticipated videos in youtube because I owned a G5 SE too! 😇 could you tell me where did you get the latest radeon drivers? tnx :D
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@AhmadSaad-pv4wo
@AhmadSaad-pv4wo 4 жыл бұрын
Would repasting the cpu make the thermals better? Could you try that if you didn't return it
@thetechnoshow
@thetechnoshow 4 жыл бұрын
My hopes are really high for next year laptops with AMD and Nvidia combination
@rajputsmu1215
@rajputsmu1215 4 жыл бұрын
How to update bios of MSI GL65 10sek ...rtx 2060 and i7 10th gen.?
@chaitanyars
@chaitanyars 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see thermal controls in my Dell g5 15 se pre installed command center do I have to re install command center? Please reply jarrod
@JoeMaranophotography
@JoeMaranophotography 3 жыл бұрын
Install oc controls from Dell support website.
@nori6237
@nori6237 4 жыл бұрын
TBH, looking at your stress test result, seems they haven't fixed the leak yet, and they only limiting the TDP for GPU further to decrease the heat.
@HughesyTech
@HughesyTech 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely better with bios updates. At least palatable now. Would love to see ultrabook reviews, I have a Lenovo S540 with 4600u at the moment, and just playing some old games. Nice laptop overall
@watercannonscollaboration2281
@watercannonscollaboration2281 4 жыл бұрын
I see dell pulled a 2012 XPS 15, that thing had horrible cooling and the updated bios just clocked down the graphics so it doesn’t heat up, but also downgraded the msata to sata 2 speed
@BensBoringVideos
@BensBoringVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I just picked up one of these from Best Buy recently. I'm confused about whether or not Smartshift is working and what it does. No matter what I do, when I open up AMD Radeon Software and click the "Performance" tab, "Smartshift" is ALWAYS at 0%. Does it only work with specific software or games, or what exactly?
@natnaeldereje1844
@natnaeldereje1844 3 жыл бұрын
Smartshift works when you're doing heavy tasks like gaming or video editing
@rohitmishra9818
@rohitmishra9818 3 жыл бұрын
Plz tell the differences between 60hz and 120hz model.
@N.i.E.M.O
@N.i.E.M.O 3 жыл бұрын
If somebody could give me some advice, I'd really appreciate it. I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to computers: So I just got one of these and when I try to update the drivers for the GPU, it actually makes my games look WORSE. It's like anti-aliasing is completely removed. Not only that, but the brightness and contrast of my screen in general actually gets dimmer. Very frustrating. I've had to use System Restore to get things back to 'normal', but I have no idea what I'm supposed to do now. Is zero anti-aliasing and a dimmer screen supposed to be an improvement? Do I have a faulty laptop (probably what it is, knowing my luck)? I'm already beginning to regret spending $1300 on this. Looking at many reviews, apparently there are far better options for a similar price. Apparently, I have one of the 'higher-end' models of the G5 SE with a Ryzen 9 4900H CPU and 16 GB RAM and 1TB HDD, but apparently the RX 5600 GPU which comes in all versions is shit anyway, right? Was hoping I'd be able to use this laptop instead of investing in a PS5/XsX, but apparently I won't even be able to run PS4-level games without struggling? And I'm not even trying to game at anything higher than 1080p 60 fps. Really regretting this purchase... :( Even though it's too late to get a different PC, I'd still at least like it if the thing worked like it's supposed to at all! Am I going to forever be stuck being unable to update my graphics drivers?
@elaminemenni672
@elaminemenni672 4 жыл бұрын
Jarrod is the MVP 👌🏻
@hasithagayalambattaya8929
@hasithagayalambattaya8929 3 жыл бұрын
So, I wanna buy this mainly for Video editing and I hope to edit 4k/6K videos. And I hope to use this as my primary laptop for all my daily works. Can someone tell me about this ones build quality for daily usage? Cuz My older lenovo ideapad's hinge is jammed after 2 years of non stop use! And I really don't need that to happen. Or should I ditch this one and go for Macbook Air M1 which is on the same price range?
@scar3sl
@scar3sl 4 жыл бұрын
i prefer a more quiet system over a louder one. Did you gather any acustic data? Or can share how it felt? (Its subjective i know sorry :) )
@jackietechlabs2081
@jackietechlabs2081 3 жыл бұрын
Did you know if you turn off smartshift with a bios mod and set a 115W limit that the G5 Bios has you’ll get 2070 max q perf
@sparkz1554
@sparkz1554 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, does anyone know if this laptop has been fixed yet? I have seen one on sale and I am tempted to but it. but I would rather avoid it if it's still got problems. Also how would this run VR? i have a rift s, but I heard it might not run it well. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
@talkandplay
@talkandplay 3 жыл бұрын
I sent my Dell G5 SE back a few weeks ago, apart from being very loud and hot i kept getting BSOD multiple times at random.Had to go through hoops to get refund.Spent quite a few hours on phone with tech support over a week, downloading new software, new bios etc but still the same result. Stick to INTEL if you are a gamer.
@jacky6052
@jacky6052 4 жыл бұрын
Jarrod did u change anything in the BIOS? please answer
@alxx17
@alxx17 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had a chance to see how the cooling system on msi alpha 15 with 4600 and rx5600m performs? considering it as an option to buy, but havent really found any reviews, your reply would be really helpful
@nacheems8047
@nacheems8047 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me if putting the cpu through 91 degress will damage it in the long run?
@anurag842
@anurag842 4 жыл бұрын
Hello,My dell G5 SE is heating upto 100⁰c can i do something about it?
@muhammedshahabas7522
@muhammedshahabas7522 4 жыл бұрын
Efficient aggressive processor mode reduced my temps significantly
@anurag842
@anurag842 4 жыл бұрын
@@muhammedshahabas7522 how i can do that?
@iputuranggaputraariasa4391
@iputuranggaputraariasa4391 4 жыл бұрын
How about bravo 15?
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
I do not plan on revisiting that machine, plus I only covered it a month or two ago.
@iputuranggaputraariasa4391
@iputuranggaputraariasa4391 4 жыл бұрын
@@JarrodsTech oke👍
@MaskedryoWorldwide
@MaskedryoWorldwide 3 жыл бұрын
What would you guys suggest, G5 SE or MSI GL65 Leopard
@rajwindersingh7206
@rajwindersingh7206 3 жыл бұрын
G5 👍🏻
@HappyRajyogi
@HappyRajyogi 3 жыл бұрын
If I want to purchase this for rendering videos, then is it good or not I never play games.... Please reply
@martingaete8098
@martingaete8098 3 жыл бұрын
It will suffice, but for these tasks I highly recommend you a workstation, given the fact that you won't play games on it
@Mooza1
@Mooza1 4 жыл бұрын
Can you undervolt it?
@me-me3126
@me-me3126 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think you can undervolt amd laptops
@takemeasahydrationreminder662
@takemeasahydrationreminder662 4 жыл бұрын
@@me-me3126 you can using ryzen controller
@haziqsembilanlima
@haziqsembilanlima 4 жыл бұрын
@@takemeasahydrationreminder662 no, that one only increase/decrease the thermal budget. while you can send voltage value through MSR, it is ignored. afaik there's a mesage ID to change max voltage value in the SMU, but that only changes max voltage. ryzen mobile juggles its frequency depending on factors and afaik only uses P-state as some kind of reference point before increasing/decreasing current cpu voltage value.
@akashdas9513
@akashdas9513 4 жыл бұрын
Can you also update Asus tuf a15 ( 2060 + 4800H ) old updates vs new..
@harshrajwani992
@harshrajwani992 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍🏻
@JarrodsTech
@JarrodsTech 4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@adxtyx
@adxtyx 4 жыл бұрын
Hmm so which should be buy??
@kompellasharan6862
@kompellasharan6862 4 жыл бұрын
How are results when ryzen controller is used?
@sawangoyal6252
@sawangoyal6252 3 жыл бұрын
Are these GPU temps GPU junction temperatures?
@theunscriptedvault
@theunscriptedvault 4 жыл бұрын
Can u please compare Alienware m17 R2 Vs. R3. it the temperature fixed with this machines and is it worth upgrade!
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 4 жыл бұрын
He already said he would have to buy it with his own money, as Dell's Alienware division won't send him review units anymore. Honestly, I will never buy an Alienware after they started soldereding the RAM in their m series.
@theunscriptedvault
@theunscriptedvault 4 жыл бұрын
@@cameronbosch1213 oh man, what a disappointing company
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