Dennis Prager | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 10

Dennis Prager joins Ben for a captivating discussion on the Bible and reason, the importance of the Ten Commandments, and how religious conservatives deal with President Trump's character flaws.
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[@marksuave25]

From my mouth to God's Ears, please give Mr. Prager another 20 years

[@Threepwoot]

I am a German student and this talk reminded me of one thing very clearly: I can never be thankful enough to the United States of America for saving us from the Red Death of Communism. If there hadn't been a Judeo-Christian superpower in the 20's century the world would have fallen to the hands of the Russians or us Germans and Socialism had ever since ruled the world. And I can never be thankful enough to the american People for having voted Trump in office in 2016. I know there are many news outlets and media in Europe who make it sound like we hate Trump. But I know my parents who are most faithful christians are thankful that Trump is there for Israel and the values of the West. All the best to you guys!

[@reasonablyserious]

Well, the soviets still were in control of half of europe during the last century, murdering millions of people, more than enough germans. It wasn't exactly as wonderful as one might want to think.

[@12799MaDeuce]

Cheers

[@pepp7073]

Post war was worse than the actual war

[@joshuahinz2447]

Much love from the US!

[@stephj9378]

Dr. Prager does a masterful job explaining why DT was chosen and is heavily supported by religious people. Ben goes into intellectual mode and gets stuck. Here's the deal, Ben ,You know i love you (smile), but... Humans dont do everything we REASON they should do, what we FEEL that should do. DT is not perfect.You, Ben are not perfect. This is why...I'm telling YOU, your intellectual side is blurring the picture. We are ALL growing from this very unusual era.

[@aaamarco3]

"I'm not the most traditional guy." - Dennis Prager, the most traditional guy.

[@fwelstars7643]

I was scrolling through the comments and right as prager said that, I saw this comment.

[@thomasjust2663]

No he is not traditional compared to Shapiro, he does not wear a yamulke, he drives on Saturdays, he does not believe in the Talmud, says he is lazy at following all the commandments and admits he is not Orthodox, thus he is not a traditionalist by any means

[@falcon759]

The fact that you think that just shows how far out in left field society has drifted. Wow...

[@MarkelBeverley]

@@thomasjust2663 He said he does not drive on the Sabbath and he is still hold to Jewish values and morals however he is not the Hasidic Jewish type. The statement "he is not a traditionalist by any means" is false

[@bubz6627]

Prager has been divorced twice. Hardly traditional.

[@longdong69]

2 genders, 2 scoops, 2 justices, 2 terms.

[@erinmack9384]

Long Dong God willing it will be three justices...

[@ze_chooch]

Erin Mack God willing RBG dies?

[@nws6146]

Sage Llivokin pretty much.

[@ze_chooch]

Erin Mack Nietzsche was right about some of you people.

[@kender1412]

2 genders, yes. The rest...2 scoops is not enough, 2 justices allows for a deadlock--5 is actually a good number, and after 2 terms a congressman/senator is just getting competent. 4 terms is an OK limit.

[@alaska.brendaoakley.rhodes998]

I respect and admire Dennis Prager so much. His voice of wisdom is so needed for our millenials as well as the rest of society. And your voice, Ben, is also a very influential one. Thank you for doing this show.

[@abrahamsaavedra2786]

Dennis you are the man! I've been listening to you since I was about 6 thanks to my Mother. Your voice comforts me so much and you give the greatest advice. My two favorite segments of your radio show are the happiness hour and male female hour. They helped shape me up and I'm proud to say I'm a 1st generation Hispanic who didnt get eaten up by lefties here in East Los Angeles. ☺😇

[@HoustonMade14]

You support PragerU?

[@leonharrison800]

What a load of uneducated rubbish. Dennis Prager is a religious dogmatist and uneducated Conservative. He has no wisdom to offer anyone, except the gullible.

[@yusefq891]

i am muslim from Kuwait and I respect Pragur. I wish muslims make peace with jews and christians. we have our differences but we also have many things in common. we should stand together against radial islam and post modern leftist idiologies.

[@jindoe3971]

Make peace with Israel

[@annlewis8508]

You can blame the MSM for the persistent mischaracterization of what President Trump said in Charlottsville. There were 4 groups at Charlottsville; 1) people who viewed confederate statues as offensive and wished them removed from public spaces, 2) people who supported the value of statues as history and public art, and 3-4) protesters from Antifa, and neo-nazis who both seized and co opted the demonstration for their own ends. When President Trump stated there were good people on both sides he was referring to groups 1 and 2 as that was initially what the public demonstration was about. After the media went into a frenzy and distorted his comment President trump publicly clarified his remarks. Of course, this clarification got minimal coverage.

[@CA-jx6by]

Ann Trump should be more careful not to fall into these traps. Of course it was terrible that someone was killed. Reality is that extremist marches have been going on for years. Why all the attention now?

[@j94695martin]

I understood what he meant at the time and saw the distortions for what it was. Ben has some real blind spots, i.e, Michelle Fields.

[@BennyLindo]

Great point Ann!

[@Artcore103]

Ben knows better, but there are times (and that was one of them) when Ben is VERY careful to not say something that would draw too much fire from the mainstream, he does not want to be called irrelevant over and over again until they make it true and he is ostracized. He's careful to be JUST edgy enough that he's "respectable" by the establishment. Unfortunately that is a weakness that holds him back. If the right and the left are both tricked into believing a lie, so 90+% of the population believes it, he's not going to go against it most of the time. He might put his own spin on it to try and sound like he has a unique view, but ultimately he'll come at it from the same set of assumptions that 'everyone' is operating under.

[@PhilBagels]

Just Someguy: Does the same thing apply if you want the statues removed, and Antifa comes along wearing masks and yelling about Republicans and joins you?

[@deenie8400]

Dennis Prager?! Awesome. Watching now!

[@johnnymanning4920]

Deenie yep 👍 that’s what I thought as soon as I saw it

[@matts5247]

Deenie congrats

[@leedeville6935]

A lot different than the last guest lol

[@nws6146]

Polar opposites

[@laughingdragon8858]

Lee Deville Ben's really like that. We don't have an echo chamber like the left does.

[@shader5410]

Yes and the last guest is actually an intellectual. This is just embarassing wishful thinking without any evidence.

[@leedeville6935]

Harris makes a lot of shallow arguments and shows he is clearly misinterpreting basic texts in the Bible

[@keggerous]

refreshing to see such DIVERSITY

[@joeycarlson6411]

God is Beauty, Goodness, and Truth.

[@johnbarry8553]

JosefDerGroße IstSehrGroß God is Love

[@joeycarlson6411]

And love

[@jaqe0909]

The Lord is Good

[@juliansandoval8022]

Yeah...just ask kids in africa

[@CarlosRodriguez-dh7mm]

I'd love to hear a Catholic on the show. Bishop Barron or Father Mike would be great. I'm personally Protestant, but I've always wondered if Ben appreciates the more stringent Christianity found in Catholicism.

[@damiencossio4325]

Carlos Rodriguez What's stringent about Catholicism....I think people confuse stringent to ritualistic

[@franklotion8]

Carlos Rodriguez.. barron and mike are the lefts puppets...how bout a true Traditional Catholic...like Cardinal Sarah.

[@deantait8326]

Carlos Rodriguez it's my experience that Southern Baptist is more stringent than Catholic church. They have that, get out of jail free card, to play. Hypocrisy in all religions but....... BTW I'm a WASP, non practicing Presbyterian.

[@j.liddle7580]

Frank Lotion Isn't the idea that Ben is not just talking to conservatives?

[@hocndoc]

Carlos Rodriguez I think Prager is Catholic

[@derpster4113]

Thank goodness for people like Prager during this time of insanity.

[@stevenjackson1747]

Well he teaches a lot of nonsense, himself, so he's kind of adding to the insanity.

[@napalmblast6550]

@@stevenjackson1747 not really nonsense

[@leifseed]

He's a sick liar

[@derpster4113]

You should actually point out instances of "nonsense" that he says . Otherwise you're just claiming something without any evidence... Smh

[@kevinmadden1645]

​@@stevenjackson1747 Nonsense? You should live so long!

[@grandroofing1604]

Dennis is awesome! I agree with him about Trump. He saved our country.

[@georgekosko5124]

D & M Roofing and Sheet Metal LLC Honestly, Trump in 2016 felt like a Deus ex machina that came out of nowhere. I'm saying this literally because no other candidate could win against the Democrats, the party of socialism, death and "equality"

[@vinevienevo]

It's so awesome

[@harmanjotsingh4230]

@@georgekosko5124 you mean equity right 🤣

[@Leftistattheparty]

@@georgekosko5124 500,000 people died from covid alone under Trump. But dems are the worse party. gotcha.

[@georgekosko5124]

@@Leftistattheparty hurr durr muh covid

[@dymphna17]

Mr Prager, you are the first person I've ever heard that held the same belief about "the Greatest Generation" being the ones who are responsible for alot of the state of the country today. That gives me hope for the future. You are also soooo right about religion today. Even my beloved Catholic Church is so far off the path that if I didn't believe in "The gates of hell shall not prevail against Her", I would deem Her lost. Surely the Remnant is out there already waiting. God bless you both, Mr Prager and Mr Shapiro!

[@tcecchinijr]

I love the two different speech types. Same message but one goes a half mile per hour and the other goes Mach 5!!😂

[@GojiraXR9]

Dennis chiming in on the ad... 👌

[@AntisepticHandwash]

I love Dennis Prager's voice

[@Halman2112]

Thank god for the return of the long form interview, Shapiro, Levin, and Rubin. Breath of fresh air. They can agree and disagree in civil discourse....I’m 46 years old and remember when we use to have discussions like this in the media. All gone except for the intellectual dark web, thank god for the men and women in that group.

[@MrJonavo]

Wow, Dennis made a great point about Charlottesville, and Ben knew it immediately. Hence, the quick change of subject. Here is the biggest difference between these two: Dennis can admit he was wrong about Trump, and Ben cannot.

[@NitroNinja324]

Ben is an intellectual narcissist. Dennis is not.

[@tomatop6754]

bens still young give him time

[@whasian1487]

If you do some deep research on what happened in Charlottesville last year, including watching videos posted by individuals attending the rally, you'll find that the main stream media pushed a hard core narrative about what happened that day. There were non-white people attending the rally in favor of not removing statues, yet I could not find a single video broadcast by the MSM that showed that. Look up the Charlottesville 32 for example. The MSM reported that they were armed nazis attending the rally while the truth is they were a neutral peace keeping force led by a Puerto Rican man. In fact, citizens of Charlottesville invited them back and thanked them for their deeds that day such as breaking up fights, treating the injured, and escorting people to safety. As an individualist, it is common sense to look at that whole situation objectively and see that there were actually good people on both sides that day. Even some of the most intelligent people I know were suckered by the MSMs narrative about Charlottesville and that's scary.

[@BenJamminCreates]

Exactly! Ben NEEDS people to agree with him or he doesn’t get his fix of feeling intellectually and morally superior. He took an L on that subject. But Prager gets it exactly right. Trump was talking about the good people who happened to be there on both sides, not the vile people who were there on both sides. Ben can’t see the forest through the trees with issues like that because he has to place himself on a moral pedestal.

[@whasian1487]

Ben is in his thirties...

[@Jkorn]

lol I like how Dennis Prager was co-signing Ben's Ads #lifeinsurance "Y'all Gonna Die"

[@asmallstone5609]

Great interview Ben. Dennis Praeger's insight was wonderful.

[@MacroAggressor]

This was an excellent Sunday Special! I really hope you have Mr. Prager on again in the future. As a "millenial" I'd like to say to you, Mr Shapiro: Thank you for everything you do to provide reason and dissent to the truly dangerous views espoused by those who are the most vocal of my generation.

[@hawkerwalks5219]

Love Dennis Prager! I would love to see you guys get Peter Schiff on a future episode

[@YerushalayimShelZahv]

Ben you do a great job making those transitions to advertisements, just when things are getting interesting I start thinking about life insurance lol.

[@Frodojack]

I can listen to Prager all day.

[@valoriemillion8394]

It takes a great man to admit he doesn’t have a great emotional bond with God... I feel that I struggle with that as well. I remember telling my pastor ones that I don’t know if I really love God. Then he told me love is not an emotion, love is a commitment. :)

[@estherjohnson514]

Dennis Prager, There is a very good reason that you say you don't have an emotional connection to God. Just as you cannot taste your food with your ear or your eye, so you cannot reach God with your mind or emotion or will. "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truthfulness" (John 4:24, Recovery Version). You have to use the right organ to contact God, which is your spirit. Then the connection is effortless and sweet, but until then all effort is vain. Think of your spirit as a radio and God as the radio waves. The radio has to be turned on before the radio can receive the transmission of the radio waves. God is always ready and willing to connect with us, but we have to use our connecting organ, our spirit.

[@connorrothbard9689]

I'm loving the religious discussion, I'm loving the format. Keep doing what you're doing!

[@toaster5955]

extend the interviews to 2 hours.

[@GrzyMckneezy]

This was an excellent conversation Ben. Thanks to the both of you and all the Daily Wire staff, you all do terrific work.

[@chriskoperniak784]

I love Dennis Prager. Both my grandfathers passed away when I was young so I never knew them. But had they been alive I‘d wish them to be just like Dennis: a knowledgeable, forthright and comforting adult figure.

[@lmassey1984]

This is such a great interview. Right on time, and much needed.

[@tMatt5M]

Had to go directly to DW's KZbin page to find this upload.. Somebody please create an alternative to KZbin.

[@danishmiller7500]

tMattLZ we so wish, pray and hope need a conservative version of youtube.

[@audiorage82407]

tMattLZ Honestly, I didn't. KZbin needs a competitor regardless but I don't think their censorship of conservatives is as blatant as everyone says it is

[@tMatt5M]

audiorage82407 Look up PragerU's problem with KZbin censorship.. it's so bad they are actually sueing KZbin. KZbin has restricted such benign videos like why America fought the Korean was and wh murder is wrong. They are absolutely censoring consecutives. Meanwhile promoting leftists TYT.

[@kender1412]

There are quite a few alternatives to KZbin. unfortunately, none of them have nearly as large of an audience.

[@tMatt5M]

Logan Waltz I'm unaware of any. I'd be willing to bet all of the channels I follow do not have a presence on any video streaming alternative.

[@MOTIVATIONBYDAR]

Wow i am a Christian and i never even gave thought about Israel meaning struggling with God. I think this describes my relationship with God which is definitely a struggle and him saying this made me feel at ease.

[@MsYeiri]

How many times can one hit "Like" on this??!! Let it shine!! 💡💡💡

[@wtfttm289]

Thank you Mr. Shapiro. The Sunday specials have been absolutely amazing.

[@mcguffindoe192]

Have on Bishop Robert Barron

[@masterofnegotiation2815]

I love it when you guys talk Torah. Great episode, thank you :D

[@JJMRam]

Could just possibly be one of the most constructive, sane, rational, discussions I have heard take place in the USA in decades.

[@perturbo]

Ben i love this series but pre-record the ads man.

[@nws6146]

David Van Legendary just skip ahead 1 minute

[@kender1412]

readings pay better. I like Ben's ads.

[@Revealed7X]

What's the difference. An ad is an ad.

[@co28158]

I think it more has to do with how awkward it is for ben to stop talking to the guest to squeeze in an ad.

[@dubiousprime2021]

if you take away the ads we can't make fun of him. don't take this away from me.

[@libertax9213]

Get Dinesh D'Souza on!

[@cosmasindico]

I had a friend who was studying Greek in Athens to become a minister. Once he asked me if I thought people were getting less religious or more religious. Since the obvious answer was yes, I figured he was hinting it was no. So I asked him why. He said that today, people are more religious because they are free to choose religion, rather than just be subsumed into the larger culture. I think we got an enormous benefit from people being predominantly Judeo-Christian 50 years ago, but I wouldn't be surprised if we have more actual believers today.

[@garlandremingtoniii1338]

Thank you 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏 so much Mr Prager!! Our dear friend Ben has been needing to hear this!!! And especially by someone he respects so much!

[@i.amsimplyval]

Future guest: Ayann Hirsi Ali

[@johndawhale3197]

I love her.

[@idid138]

Fantastic. Stop reading the comments and go back to listening.

[@skoducks6071]

"Stick your head in the sand, everyone!" This is how you get echo chambers, you fool.

[@idid138]

sko ducks :) it was just a joke for those of us who start scrolling while intending to listen... my guess is most people "listening" to this probably don't live inside the Jewish religous "echo chamber".

[@skoducks6071]

Fair enough, but most of the people listening do live inside the religious echo chamber.

[@Threepwoot]

My favourite SundaySpecial by far! You can tell by how much Ben is listening compared to other Specials :)

[@johnh293]

To have coherent civil convo with Harris and Prager is so fun and helpful. Thanks Ben. Keep it going.

[@enlightenednormie242]

Ben "AD-king" Shapiro. 😇😇😇

[@mistersmith8962]

Bobby's Bundle... little a , little k

[@enlightenednormie242]

Mr Smith Just wanted to force emphasis on the 'AD' part.

[@j94695martin]

Considering the content is effectively free, I can live with a few ads. You do know that his wife is a doctor, right? ( Point being that even the ads make for good amusement on other podcasts when Ben's name pops up.)

[@idiotsavant7276]

Bobby's Bundle 😂😂😂 true but aye, we all got to eat.

[@originalbluebuddha]

If you think Christians witnessing door to door are persistent and annoying, wait until an atheist tries to convince you to accept the Lord Godless Agnostic as your personal savior.

[@matthewnoblejordan3555]

Lol. I'm an atheist but your right I never understood trying to convince anyone to lose faith.

[@gordon5004]

Mr. Prager; More blessed are those who believe without seeing. You have come to goodness while relying only on your reason. Admirable.

[@drakozero8]

BEN have William Lane Craig on your show PLS.

[@Woodst50]

Angel Torres agreed!!

[@mmwosu]

Angel Torres That would be an interesting conversation, but WLC doesn’t go political. The convo would have to focus on philosophy and morality

[@LtDeadeye]

Perhaps Frank Turek would foster a better conversation.

[@mmwosu]

NetMage11 That’s a super specific and productive statement! Such a comment is virtually guaranteed to foster reasonable discourse. 10/10 👍

[@mmwosu]

NetMage11 Aww, someone’s mad over getting called on arguing like a child. I’m really kidding, but in all seriousness, if you’re going to go around making unsupported statements like that, expect to hear about it from people who value actual discussion.

[@meksi]

im not joking but i literally got an ad that talks about God righg before this

[@duanesburns]

why would anyone think you're joking? clearly you know fuck all about how advertising works. unbelievable smh

[@soccerking172]

It's a sign.

[@wayne8736]

As a brit id never heard of Denis Prager before, but after one hour of watching this I can honestly say im blown away by his insight and wisdom...….

[@stevedragos4055]

Absolutely fantastic conversation. Thank you both.

[@touchoflight124]

Good analysis on slavery. I had thoughts on it that ran along similar lines but Dennis fleshed it out a lot more satisfyingly.

[@touchoflight124]

Sko ducks Interesting point. I guess my answer to this won't be satisfactory to you but I'll try nevertheless. I do admit on the face of it, that particular point is problematic and religious people shouldn't try to gloss over or cover it up but try and face up to it. I come at this from a Christian perspective, and I'm fairly confident it's a lot different to the Jewish one. Christians see much of the Old testament as a foreshadowing of Christ, with prominent people like Moses, David and Elijah being specific fore-images of the Christ that would come. In much the same way, the people of Israel, described as being the people of God throughout the old testament, is a foreshadowing of the entire body of Christ that would come, gentiles being included. The people of God are often described as being servants or slaves to Him. To non-believers it sounds distasteful I'm sure, but if there is a God, I don't think it's that ridiculous to say that He would be like a master to us, a perfect master who wants only good for us and that we would be glad to serve. Given this, the differential treatment of servitude from hebrew/non-hebrew servants that is given, which I think comes from the book of Leviticus, makes a bit more sense. Since non-hebrews aren't people of God, when they are taken into the family they become a part of it. And given God's laws such as everyone being made equal and loved equally by God, supersedes anything and everything, bad treatment of slaves were not permissible in any way. The book of Job, Job talks about how he and the slaves in his household were created equal before the eyes of God is another example. And the passage from Leviticus that directly talks about this issue, isn't endorsing the institution of slavery but rather how to treat slaves that you acquire from other lands. In other areas of the bible where Jewish Kings sought to institute slavery it is said that they fell out of favour in God's sight and were bound to follow after evil (1 Kings 11:6; 2 Chronicles 12:14). I doubt this is very convincing to you but since you raised a good point I answered it to the best of my abilities. It's in no way the best the Christian community has to offer so if you're continuously troubled by this issue, I'd recommend that you seek after more informed explanations with an open mind :)

[@skoducks6071]

I kinda skimmed this because the whole slavery issue isn't a big sticking point for me either way, I was more concerned with men who know better being disingenuous, but I appreciate your answer and effort. I was a Christian too and am still Bible literate and I understand that the concept of being a slave to Christ isn't corrupt to you in the context that you believe it. I would raise the point though that, I believe at least, slavery is wrong primarily because it is wrong to own other people as property. How you treat your slaves is tangent to the issue of slavery's morality. May we both keep open minds in the future.

[@jason666king]

sko ducks and their children in perpetuity. Race-based permanent slavery endorsed by the pinnacle of morality. Lol, these people are fools who prove you can "rationalize" anything.

[@touchoflight124]

jason666king There is a thing called “jubilee” in Jewish tradition that freed all slaves from bondage every 50 years, which shows that the situation is very complex and I think you do it a disservice by simply applying your modern understanding of slavery to it. For christians, the bible on the whole decries the practice of slavery and it’s only when you cherrypick certain passages that you could possible derive a rationale for it. The passages that do talk about slavery, prager hints at some answers here and others have more nuanced and detailed answers concerning it.

[@jason666king]

Seungyeon Ryoo you just lied. The bible as a whole does not decry slavery, not even once. It promotes it 100% OT and NT. Look it up.

[@the0ghost069]

Excellent episode Ben. Thanks for bringing Dennis Prager on the show.

[@CanadianSchizo]

Wonderful conversation.

[@AntisepticHandwash]

I have used ExpressVPN in the past, and I have to say, they have some of the best customer service I've seen in any service, ever. Every time I had an issue, they resolved it super fast and with great communication. One time, I even had a really esoteric extremely technical question, and they even got one of their engineers to answer it. I'm pretty happy to see them sponsoring Ben's show; I'll definitely go straight back to them next time I need a VPN

[@stuntbaby63]

At the 51:38 mark, Ben says, "...Let's say he [Trump] says something about Charlottesville and it's something that I find distasteful...". Then Dennis says, "We may have a difference of understanding. And I have perused this a tremendous number of times. He didn't say there were good Nazis and...". Ben disagrees, saying, "He said there were 'good people on both sides', on the Friday night...". Dennis then asks, "Wasn't that about statues?" Ben disagrees again, saying, "The Friday night was a white supremacist march." Dennis challenges him with this question: "Do you think he was saying there were good Nazis? Do you believe he believes there are good Nazis?" But rather than giving a direct answer to Dennis' direct question, Ben squirms, saying, "I think he was saying there were good people who were marching...with the Nazis to the statue, which I..." Dennis then says, "Here's my 'Talmudic' proof that he didn't say that." Ben says, "Okay." Dennis: "Because he doesn't believe there's good Antifa." Rather than accepting this fair point, Ben squirms again, saying, "No, but I think the easy way for him to say things is there's good people on both sides." Dennis: "Right, but he doesn't believe there's any good Antifa." Ben: "I'm not sure that he thinks things through to the extent necessary to actually..." Dennis: "Okay. Whether he does or doesn't..." Ben: "The point is not Charlottesville -- and I'm happy to argue Charlottesville. We can go back through the texts and we'll bring out our Talmuds and we can actually look through the legislative history of what he said..." Did Ben accept Dennis' point? Nope. Did he change his tune on Charlottesville and acknowledge that Trump was right about good people being on both sides of the statue controversy? Nope. Did he cling to his weak argument by shifting the goal posts? Yes, he did. Did he abruptly end the debate because it was making him look bad? Yes, he did. // At first, Ben accused Trump of saying something "distasteful" in Charlottesville. (This, of course, was in reference to the "Fake News" lie that Trump had called Nazis "good people".) Then when Dennis dismantled his whole point, he accused Trump of taking the "easy way" and insulted him for lacking the ability to "think things through". Trump never said anything "distasteful" in Charlottesville. It was a huge lie created and perpetuated by the corrupt Mainstream Media. Yet Ben swallowed it hook, line and sinker. How could a guy as smart and perceptive as Ben Shapiro fall for such lies? What is wrong with him? What is wrong with anyone who would assist Hillary Clinton in her efforts to win -- no STEAL -- the White House and destroy our country?

[@megclif]

Ted Clarke The fact that the alt right and the Brietbart hate squad made his and his families life a hell when he left, death threats etc - and still do target him constantly, has something to do with his cynical take on Trump who may not have praised them but has never really criticised the alt right either.

[@stuntbaby63]

Thank you for the clarifying response, megclif. I am actually a huge fan of Ben Shapiro, which is why I am so disappointed with him when he fails to meet the standards he routinely meets. Had I been subjected to such personal attacks and threats, I'd probably hold a personal grudge against Trump, too. It may not be right but it is understandable. Thanks!

[@stuntbaby63]

Ikiryo wrote, "Ben has a blind spot about Trump. He will never admit he is wrong." I'm afraid you are right. Ben's emotional investment in hating Trump does not reflect well on him. It makes him look like a spoiled child rather than a thoughtful adult.

[@chefmarcos]

I think Ben is careful not to side with or bash Trump too much because he is looking to his future political aspirations.

[@stuntbaby63]

Trump's political success is largely due to his unwillingness to be calculating. He comes across as a guy who casts caution to the wind and says exactly what he means. If Ben is being "careful not to side with or bash Trump too much because he is looking to his future political aspirations", then his misguided attempt to piss no one off is going to piss everyone off. Hedging bets and playing both sides are the tactics of gutless politicians. Ben needs to learn from Trump. He gains nothing by constantly insulting and belittling him. Having said that, I think chefmarcos is right. Ben is cautiously setting the table for a presidential run. Unfortunately, he's putting the knives and forks on the wrong sides of the plate.

[@aarondobbs7759]

This is certain to be stimulating.

[@RhinoDNA]

I truly love both of these fine gentlemen, their wisdom and pragmatism (especially Mr. Prager's) are needed among the youth more than at any other time in our history.

[@andrewludwig5304]

One of the best Sunday Special episodes, to date!

[@adverseinperpetuity]

Ravi Zacharias next guest.

[@theAshesofDecember1]

I feel so vindicated for my comment last week regarding Sam Harris’s argument on slavery. Thank you prager!!

[@Zichronot]

I really enjoyed this. I learned Hebrew so no one had to translate Hebrew to me. I wanted to be able to read the scriptures myself. God is the love of my life. I'll be watching Dennis Pragar more .

[@mayadiva123]

Such a pleasure to listen to you both!

[@mistersmith8962]

Adam was the first monotheist man

[@sooze610]

The thing with these two guys, and I love Ben and admire Dennis , but they try to interpret the bible (old testament) without the knowledge of Jesus. Slavery, judgement etc are all understood better after Jesus, e.g. slavery to sin and flesh not slavery to people, judgement being met with mercy in Jesus and not just God's judgment on sinners. Then you understand that God is not talking or promoting slavery in the natural sense like the atheists claim. God's plan of redemption is only appreciated when we understand the enormity of the fall and the sacrifice of Jesus. But what a great video. So interesting. I love having them in this world.

[@ExireHG]

The Old Testament itself is an interpretation of the Torah. So, on that alone, I'd have to disagree on the very premise of your argument itself. There's also foolishness in interpreting the Bible for modernity or to service one's own personal ends. On religion both Ben and Dennis are crazily ignorant. Taking pure faith and saying it's rational, absurd. To be fair, I find Sam Harris' stance on free will is also bizarre as well.

[@davidlevi2237]

@@ExireHG if you think about it, its highly rational to accept that there's a gd solely on faith. For instance, if you visit your local library, you will notice how all the books are organized by a specific order on the bookshelves. It may be alphabetically or by genre. Even if you didn't know English, you would still be able to assume that there's a specific order in how someone placed the books on the shelves, since all the books on a certain shelf begin with the same foreign letter. The same can be said about our universe: it's highly irrational to believe that our world can be formed by chance. The way how everything has to be in sync with one another, and a lot of natural processes are dependent on one another demonstrates the incredible unlikelihood of these things happening by coincidence. There has to be a Creator that created everything perfectly so that it can provide habitation for life. That's just my opinion. I'll be glad to hear your views on this

[@victoruzuznyan]

I have mad respect and enjoy listing to Dennis speak. I agree with him on many topics and issues we have today. I Don't Believe in a God (s) but If there is a Creator in heaven Mr. Prager & Shapiro will enter through those gates NQA. Great Sunday Special Thanks!

[@willtheprodigy3819]

One of the greatest minds of our generation!

[@quintenm4316]

Next week on the Sunday Special is special guest Milo Yiannopoulos.

[@tnstrickland23]

Highly unlikely

[@davehedric1543]

GAVIN MCINNES next!!!

[@wyansas]

Gavin McInnes is full of shit

[@AmericanMetalhead100]

No.

[@daltonmann4916]

i am sure i am not the only one who agrees with mr prager statement about looking over the edge of the abyss in nov 2016. i felt exactly the same way!

[@windsongshf]

The hour felt like 15 minutes! So intetesting. ☺

[@EtzEchad]

Don't you have to start fires to drive a car?

[@SimonSays314]

I guess Prager drives a Tesla. Lol

[@deandesune5665]

"פיקוח נפש דוחה שבת" Dennis said that he will drive only to give lectures or to teach people, and that is admirable.

[@davidlevi2237]

@@deandesune5665 Hi there, Dean. That verse you quoted translates roughly as "a life in danger overrides shabbat". Meaning if someone's life is danger, like if someone passes out for instance, we override the shabbat restrictions and take him/her to the hospital. I personally don't see how that permits Dennis to drive his car to teach people. I'm not sure what he teaches, but it would be kind of ironic if he drove his car on the sabbath to teach Jews some Judaism. That's like if a doctor smokes a cigarette right before he gives a presentation on how to quit smoking.

[@mikkellarsen660]

When is Yaron Brook going to be on?

[@grumpywasp4533]

Mikkel Larsen Yaron Brook is great... up to a point. At which he becomes an odious cretin. He’d be drowning in ignorance during this conversation, for example.

[@mikkellarsen660]

Well that is one opinion. Thank you, Grumpy.

[@marieo.6514]

I wish this was a longer conversation. I could listen to Prager and Ben Shapiro discuss religion for hours. 👍🏼

[@patrickmchargue7122]

Dennis Prager: Kids with good character is the most important thing. Correct! Thanks for a good interview and the good ideas.

[@Terf1988]

I want a Christian on like Lee Strobel. :)

[@brisca1668]

As an atheist, please yes. One of the best apologists out there.

[@Hard_Boiled_Entertainment]

Brisca Especially as he started out AS an atheist!

[@johnbarry8553]

John Piper or Francis Chan imo

[@therealcouchpotato9560]

Ben is my daddy

[@Manuel-dn8hn]

Is your mum a medical doctor, though?

[@timmcclymont3527]

Like parent daddy or spank me daddy?

[@stinkyboomboom]

I wasn't aware Ben's nuts had dropped yet.

[@jaywolf67]

therealcouchpotato 95 your Jew daddy?

[@soccerking172]

Manuel Chukwudi She is, but first...

[@DarkArtistic]

I want those lamps. They make me feel like I am live at the Sunday Special everyday, also everyday is Sunday. wooo!

[@61MARCOP]

I would have liked to see Ben and the late Bishop Sheen have a discussion. He appeared on TV regularly in the 50's-60's. He was a dynamic speaker like Ben.

[@touchoflight124]

Just finished, it was less substantive than I had hoped.

[@danielgallardo7249]

The slavery argument was the best part. Every time I have a religious debate with an atheist, the slavery part is their number one crutch on their beliefs. It's nice knowing there is a rational approach as to why indentured servitude is in the Bible.

[@FuckFascistYouTube]

Seungyeon Ryoo That's because it was about god and religion. Unless it's a debate, religious discussions never have substance

[@Theogvineofthedead]

Seungyeon Ryoo well yeah it was about religion. I can't believe people still believe that garbage. And I am not an atheist but these religions are nonsense

[@FuckFascistYouTube]

vineofthedead Do you believe in a god?

[@Theogvineofthedead]

Scott G. No and I honestly don't understand how people could believe in such archaic and baseless ideas. I am also not an atheist, I know there is more to the universe and we are all connected but the idea that some being magically created everything is less likely than evolution. I will say that I know it sounds crazy but a good 5 grams of psilocybin containg mushrooms and a dark room or the woods will show you that there is more to the universe. I just think that religion sure was a good way to control the masses back in the day. And just because they are old ideas doesn't make them correct.

[@shaunstanley4370]

Two of the most influential and refreshing people I can imagine!! Please do another ANYTHING together ASAP!

[@fhowland]

Dennis is so right about the white indentured servants - that was my ancestor on the Mayflower.

[@bhans9890]

These videos talking about God and religion has actually made me think about starting to go to church, honestly. I've always been agnostic but living an overwhelmingly godless society this day in age has made me lean more towards starting to practice, I think this country needs more God. Notice how where there is evil and where all the bad things happen and where the bad people are is where God is not. listening to highly intellectual conversations like this has given me a new perspective on God. I've never had disbelief but my philosophy of this subject is this, we were put on this earth by who knows what, (probably god) but NO ONE is 100% sure, but remember WE were put here, WE did not create this earth, how could WE deny something exists when WE werent the first things to exist? Like when we make huge discorveries that seem unbelievable, it is unbelievable because we didnt create it, we were put here, why is it so hard for people to at least acknowledge the fact that you cant KNOW that something exists when you were put here, just like how if you visit another planet and you see some weird shit, or just outer space for Christ sake, you don't know anything about it, So what you ask yourself is "how could i deny phenomenon when i dont know anything about where i am? Anything could exist, you just cant KNOW what exists and what doesnt. So why deny it?" Its kind of like how you cant tell the future, you dont know what can happen, you just cant. and everything on this planet and outside of it is just mind blowing, like how could nature just create all of this? I mean look at human life for example, why was my soul put specifically into the sperm I came from? Why didn't my soul get assigned to a different body? My father had 2 children with his first wife and then me and my 2 siblings cane from him and his second wife, my mother, how come I wasn't the first? How come I didn't come out of that first wife? I came from my dad of course, but here is the thing to think about, how could nature determine where a soul is assigned into this earth? Why were we put where we are? How come my soul was put into THIS family and not another? I feel like God is the only explanation, I think we were put exactly where we are for a reason, I believe in free will as well, but everything I believe happens for a reason. Some of this probably doesn't make sense because its hard to explain these thoughts on a KZbin comment. But yeah, for all you atheists out there, you cant just know whether something exists or not when WE have only been on earth for so long and the fact that WE DIDNT CREATE EVERYTHING, so how can you deny existence of something in a place when you weren't there FIRST. ANYTHING can exist. That's all I have to say. Thanks Ben and Dennis, y'all are the REAL ones

[@JEROMEGELB]

Interesting discussion but Dennis, beware making statements that a concept is rational but providing no evidence for that conclusion. You cannot use the concept itself as proof it is rational. There must be a god because why?......you have direct evidence of god's existence? Please share it. You also use the word "belief" several times, indicating the central role that your faith plays in your conclusions. I have no quibble with your beliefs, your faith or your conclusions, other than your misuse of the word "rational", implying the proof exists and can be examined. Your love of the Torah obviously enriches your life and that in itself is a wonderful gift to and for you.

[@shooting-startheories3090]

JEROME-GELB AUSTRALIAN-PSYCHIATRIST u dont have to have direct and obvious evidence for everything, u atheist/agnostics have become so that u worship ur own opinion of evidence and what u think is rational, when just as many people watching this if not more will think what there saying is completely rational.

[@Zichronot]

About time someone has put Ben in his place. And Pragar just did so. Ben has been consistently wrong on Trump. Trump is the strongest Republican President in my lifetime as far as Conservative values and such. He has made J'lem the capital of Israel, ended a 70 yr old war. He has straightened out tax's and placed good Judge's into scotus. He has saved this country. And I for one, am sick of the never Trumpers. Ben is STILL a never Trump. His ideological position actually makes him like the left.

[@megclif]

B Ahve You need to be more realistic, no one is perfect even Trump. Look at the way Obama's followers worshipped him, were you OK with that? At least Ben is consistent and truthful about his opinions and that is so refreshing these days

[@Vern_Levine]

I concur. Around 2010 I came to a sad realization. There's never been a fully "conservative" president in terms of actual governance. Reagan was obviously the closest to the idea but he was forced to compromise since the Democrats were in power in Congress. I had pretty much given up on the idea of conservatism as we knew it. Trump is the most "conservative" president we've had (I'm speaking of modern conservatism) In fact, it's not even close. It's actually quite shocking. I think Ben has a pride hurdle that makes it difficult to fully come over but he even admitted in this video that he may vote for Trump in 2020.

[@r.l.stolba9050]

“I’m sure this seems very convoluted-“ Ben laughs “Or, uhhhmmm, complicated. I make my self very clear.”

[@samuelmcgrath9402]

Would love to see Bishop Robert Barron sit across from Ben (and Jordan Peterson, for that matter). That would be a riveting conversation! Ben and Michael Shermer talking about Christianity left a lot to be desired.

[@gracefulgrizzly39]

Please get someone from the Christian tradition for a discussion!

[@IAmGeorgeLucas]

Dennis "arming all teachers is sensible" Prager

[@kingdamager7370]

George Lucas it certainly is sensible to arm any capable teacher that qualifies to carry. It works in several schools that do just that.

[@IAmGeorgeLucas]

Agreed, but Prager sees it as the de facto solution. Most public sector teachers shouldn't be anywhere near firearms.

[@tessysingh1327]

Love your Sunday Specials especially Jordan Peterson, Praeger and Rogan. Ben please have Prof. Edward Feser on your Sunday Special.

[@davidsnead7728]

Your caveats with life insurance are hilarious... That was such a bad shift... So awkward. :)

[@garrettalexander8522]

Not sure about his claim that a creator is purely rational, it's called faith for a reason

[@warrior1563]

Garrett Alexander Faith is for what you believe in, for instance, if you believe that Jesus Christ is God, then you need faith to believe that, but to believe that a God exists, wether it be Allah, or Jesus, Buddha, or even just a random higher power, we can use facts. The 5 proofs from St. Thomas Aquinas is a great example. It doesn’t prove Jesus is God but it proves that there is a God.

[@stampybear5042]

#UnBEARables

[@bumponalog5001]

Reason is absolutely the best way to get faith. This is why I'm Catholic, thanks to its foundations on reason and intellect lifting man as high as it can go (Augustine. Aquinas, etc). And then letting faith pick up.

[@shablya]

Thank you both, this made my day.

[@davescruton2829]

Listen to Jordan Peterson break down the bible, vs Dennis Prager. Peterson has my vote hands down.

[@brisca1668]

I dont like Jordan Peterson at all. BUT at least hes trying to be intellectually honest, so i can respectfully disagree. Prager on the other hand...

[@Ken-ur8kt]

They are both without God

[@brisca1668]

Well, saying archetypes are discredited is a little too easy. For everyone interested in psychology, his lectures can be extremely interesting. I am a fan of psychological analysis of religion, it can say a ton about humanity as a whole (although i don`t know if its of any interest to theists)

[@antoyal]

Use both! They approach the Bible from very different angles so of course their output will be different. No one person is ever going to have the definitive explanation or analysis of anything, let alone of something as complex as biblical text.

[@RectaRatio1540]

Dave Scruton John Lennox, Scott Hahn, William Lane Craig and Brandt Pitre are even better but I really appreciate Jordan's breakdown and commentary coming from the Jungian clinical psychologist's perspective.