VTuber Tropes: Seiso

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Depressed Nousagi

Depressed Nousagi

11 ай бұрын

Every VTuber is categorized as seiso or unseiso by their communities based on their actions and behavior. And while the definition of Seiso is a bit of a difficult concept to categorize, this video will try to explore the subject as best as it could!
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@SFMExtraordinare
@SFMExtraordinare 11 ай бұрын
I still remember Ina screaming "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ART TAG" and "OI" after the Ina's Back thing went nuclear
@doorsareforopening
@doorsareforopening 2 ай бұрын
Screaming in lowercase lol
@lucidasan2230
@lucidasan2230 11 ай бұрын
Kaela Kovalsia arguably one of the most Seiso in the entire Hololive..
@ariswiryanta7038
@ariswiryanta7038 11 ай бұрын
I- huh... you know what, that's kinda true the more I think about it
@maymeimaimiyawnyaa6219
@maymeimaimiyawnyaa6219 11 ай бұрын
Most serious comedy
@kayschut9327
@kayschut9327 11 ай бұрын
While that may be true, she somehow doesn't fit into the trope as a whole. It's not what she's known for, nor is a something that gets brought up. In the pure definition of the word you are correct.
@stevanustrionanda6397
@stevanustrionanda6397 11 ай бұрын
She earns the "torturous oshi" Category
@m-wan2547
@m-wan2547 11 ай бұрын
You spelled "Ina" wrong
@youngthinker1
@youngthinker1 11 ай бұрын
The whole drama around Pikamee really puts into perspective how much a community will fight to protect their oshi.
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
Noooo~ w-we're not _hidesHeavyBolter_ that violent, we're _throwsMeltaGun_ just civilised people standing up for -Saint- Pika. /⁠ᐠ⁠。⁠ꞈ⁠。⁠ᐟ⁠\ Commissar,clenthegunkoffyourChainsword,quick.
@Nehfarius
@Nehfarius 11 ай бұрын
@@ArcaneMaiden Ah, doing your duty for the Man-Emperor, I see?
@Diceboxx
@Diceboxx 11 ай бұрын
A Whole chapter of Space Marine was about to drop full force on them
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
@@Diceboxx A good chunk, yes. I was admittedly one of the instigators, but cooler heads prevailed. XD Ofc, we're just meme'ing at this point, but back then: _The rage is genuine._
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
@@Nehfarius I see TTS Stands. o7
@Doom_Guy__
@Doom_Guy__ 11 ай бұрын
And yet despite all the odds, somehow the seiso ones end up getting the best "art" made of them *winks* ...
@dzungnguyenduc8556
@dzungnguyenduc8556 11 ай бұрын
They don't show the Lewd all the time. So the fan base need to be more creative and imagination to touch the other side, and drawing is just the best way to do it XD
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 11 ай бұрын
Ina's back is legendary.
@legacymse7095
@legacymse7095 11 ай бұрын
If something is "forbidden and unreachable", it makes you want to break the rules even more. That's probably the reason why anal sex exist, or why lolis are lewded. Lewding a seiso has a much stronger impact compared to anyone else.
@Doom_Guy__
@Doom_Guy__ 11 ай бұрын
@@legacymse7095 Could've just said curiosity 😂
@reddytoplay9188
@reddytoplay9188 11 ай бұрын
​@@legacymse7095is that why ntr is popular?
@needfood4279
@needfood4279 11 ай бұрын
Risu is the embodiment of sleeper seiso. You can randomly tune in for hal an hour and think she is super seiso. Then someone mentions a meme and she reveals her 10/10 degen/gremlin mind
@synnell88
@synnell88 11 ай бұрын
Even Ollie said that Risu maybe the most unseiso of all HoloID, alongside Iofi.
@stiimuli
@stiimuli 11 ай бұрын
Believe it or not there are fans who have ZERO interest in sexualizing any of these girls and actively avoid any content that does so (except when it makes for a really funny clip). For us its not about needing a "break" from lewdness or drama as you said. Its about not wanting any of that in the first place. If i want sexy, vtubers are not where I would go for it.
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 11 ай бұрын
I hope there's a similar audience for male vtubers as well, as my natural way of behaving in public spaces is completely devoid of profanity and lewdness. So far, though, it has seemed to be more of a detriment, as all the successful male EN vtubers besides Shu seem to lean into language and sus behavior while people like me are wrongly labeled as fake, boring, unrelatable, and even as potential predators. (I've experienced all of those firsthand)
@stiimuli
@stiimuli 11 ай бұрын
@@s_factor_sam Try Josuiji Shinri. From the streams I've seen he's just comfy and chill and nice with little to no lewdness or cussing.
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 11 ай бұрын
@@stiimuli Will do
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 11 ай бұрын
I feel like fuwamoco is going to dominate the seiso troupe there cute always in sync with one another seiso game play. Got us all BAU BAU have the perfect balance of western and jp fans. Those karaoke and asmr streams going to go crazy and I can't wait for the 3D debut for them a proud ruffian. I never knew I was in to the completely cute type like sure korone being my favorite vtuber is Hella cute and good a games but she has her crazy side and one last thing not tomorrow TODAY
@Eric-vs2he
@Eric-vs2he 11 ай бұрын
It's only been a few weeks, eventually they'll turn to the dark side
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 11 ай бұрын
​@@Eric-vs2henaw bro sure they might change a little in the up coming months. But fuwamoco same feeling with iroha when she debuted that she's going to be the seiso streamer. You can look at the twins past lives they was never on the yabe side.
@leandroiuki4337
@leandroiuki4337 11 ай бұрын
​@@kinglightning5256 That anime she likes "School Days" indicates the path of Elite Miko. If they had Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni i would believe the seiso path.
@kinglightning5256
@kinglightning5256 11 ай бұрын
​@@leandroiuki4337naw bro willing to bet you 3 months from now they still going to be the same. Like said samething with ina,fauna,iroha when they debuted you know what troupe they fit into. They not going to have a big transformation in months from now expect very little yabe moments from them.
@Eric-vs2he
@Eric-vs2he 11 ай бұрын
​@@kinglightning5256 I don't know man, considering that one of their favorite anime is Yosuga no Sora and School days, maybe they are actually seiso but only time will tell
@Tube4life679
@Tube4life679 11 ай бұрын
Your god damn right I'd go to war for my Priestess. I stuck with Ina because her streams are something I can have on in the background and just mellow out too. She's got this calming aura about her and I love her for it. Takodachi for life.
@somerandomdude184
@somerandomdude184 9 ай бұрын
Been there
@Gamersunite2506
@Gamersunite2506 11 ай бұрын
Ina will forever be my queen of comfy oshi.
@megumin9967
@megumin9967 11 ай бұрын
iRyS being an Airhead Seison't perfectly describes her. There's no pattern on where or when she would utter a totally Yabai word like literally dropping a nuke in the middle of a chill stream thus YabaiRyS perfectly fits her. Been watching her since her debut and her airheadedness never ceases to amaze me.
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 11 ай бұрын
The points here really do very well describe FuwaMoco, even if they're so new to hololive, they already cemented themselves as seiso well before that. They keep the pure idol dream alive, and when i mean alive i mean on lifesupport
@Renzu-ZG
@Renzu-ZG 11 ай бұрын
Keeping the dream on life support while their genmates keep bricking it.
@warlockwarlord169
@warlockwarlord169 11 ай бұрын
There are lewd VTubers that would kill to go trending for things Ina did by accident 😂
@autismandgaming4532
@autismandgaming4532 11 ай бұрын
What’s a famous body part that starts with a B?
@warlockwarlord169
@warlockwarlord169 11 ай бұрын
@@autismandgaming4532 Brow
@ChaosMind10531
@ChaosMind10531 11 ай бұрын
​@@autismandgaming4532Bass??? XD
@Naramsit
@Naramsit 11 ай бұрын
The 4th Wah
@warlockwarlord169
@warlockwarlord169 11 ай бұрын
@@Naramsit 🔫🐙 No
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 11 ай бұрын
I think the main difference in the seiso group is people that want to be seiso and people that really are seiso. There are a lot of vtubers that want to appear seiso for a variety of reasons (maybe the hope for bigger appeal or just prefer to be seen that way), so the seiso is basically the role they choose to play. But then there are the vtubers that might not even know what seiso really is, but they are really really seiso, maybe because they lack knowledge, or they are just too nice, so they can't even bring themselves to be 'bad' or 'unseiso' (Rosemi trying to play the sadist from time to time is probably a great example).
@VallenChaosValiant
@VallenChaosValiant 11 ай бұрын
Pekora is very Seiso to me. She might be a girl in a literal bunny suit, but she is winning the sponsorship race because she is surprisingly childhood friendly. Pekora's violent outbursts are all of the Saturday morning cartoon villain variety. Pekora is playing the role of Daffy Duck. I am not sure how much of that was acting and how much was what she is truly like. But we know that in her past life she did try to be sexual briefly. If she decided the lewd path is not for her, I am glad that she managed to succeed anyway.
@NuGeeX
@NuGeeX 11 ай бұрын
@@VallenChaosValiant She is a certified kindergarten teacher, babysitter. Even her character design is a bit lewd. She wants to make her content to be family-friendly.
@risktorise2103
@risktorise2103 11 ай бұрын
No girlfriend experience, I guess this is the most important factor of being seiso. They ( the vtuber) can talk about lewd stuff but they won't foster a possibility that their fans feel they might have a romantic relationship with the vtuber.
@adamlopez2275
@adamlopez2275 11 ай бұрын
The term seiso is so ubiquitous yet so little consensus surrounds it. Way to sum it up DN! Also, where would you put Shiori? Her and the Novelites can both be very lewd/down bad, but whenever she’s being a dork she’s too wholesome
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 11 ай бұрын
Wholesome lewd is a thing. Honestly, Marine is a pretty big example of it. She is one of the more openly lewd members and pretty much the most lewded one but her relationship with her chat can be rather sweet and wholesome. As for Shiori and Vtuber tropes, I haven't seen Advent interact that much (they are both new and their stream timing is also rather bad for me) but from what little I have seen and general vibes I get from Shiori (who I watched somewhat more of compared to rest of Advent) she seems to fit the leader role/trope.
@QRenjo
@QRenjo 11 ай бұрын
Yeah! I really appreciate the attempt to categorize it, it isn't perfect but felt really close, and cover a big area of the tropes. Good job DN.
@adamlopez2275
@adamlopez2275 11 ай бұрын
@@gokbay3057 ya, she for sure seems to be the leader, but I was asking more in terms of her classification on the seiso scale/subclasses. As far as advent goes, I’ve mostly followed Shiori but their group dynamic is really interesting. It may be too early, but they don’t seem to have a heart to me. Rather they all seem to just click so the heart isn’t any one person in particular. And each member is very distinct in terms of appeal (Fuwamoco the cinnamon roll, Nerissa the powerhouse, Bijou is more chaotic and shitposty, and Shiori the comfy(?))
@otaku-vq9mt
@otaku-vq9mt 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Shiori is a sleeper seiso. She seems to say sus things, then quickly move on so chat doesn't have time to think about it. She's good at maintaining control.
@TheDJ3520
@TheDJ3520 11 ай бұрын
First time seeing my oshi on this channel and I'm so glad she's recognized as a cinnamon roll. Nakiri Ayame felt like a breath of fresh air back when I found her. I really was looking for someone comfy and wholesome. Her cuteness kinda pours over into her puns and airheaded-ness (PON) as well. She's like a sister you never had but will fiercely protect.
@crazy961234
@crazy961234 11 ай бұрын
Gen 0: Sora Gen 1: Fubuki Gen 2: Ayame Gamers: Mio Gen 3: Pekora Gen 4: Luna Gen 5: Botan Gen 6: Iroha ID 1: Moona ID 2: Anya ID 3: Kaela EN 1: Ina EN 2: Fauna EN 3: FuwaMoco
@f1r3hunt3rz5
@f1r3hunt3rz5 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. You are a based person
@Absolute__Zero
@Absolute__Zero 11 ай бұрын
There’s actually a level above Saints that you forgot to mention, it’s called *”Idol Personified”* and it’s a tier specifically reserved for *Best Seiso Girl Yagoo* ww
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 11 ай бұрын
Nah, Yagoo ain't that seiso, but it usually only comes out when he's dealing with and hanging out with Holostars specifically. Make no mistake, Yagoo is one of the boys, but he conducts himself appropriately when dealing with female talents. If you want to see Yagoo unhinged, see how he interacts with Holostars.
@ArcaneMaiden
@ArcaneMaiden 11 ай бұрын
​@@NotAGoodUsername360_IT'S MALDING TIME !!_
@timoth4529
@timoth4529 11 ай бұрын
5:54 I think Rin Penrose fits that archetype pretty well. She is defnetly not short of cussing out everything like a proper Brit does but she is really against being lewd or sexual. Or even her chat througing out sexual hints and stuff like that.
@useraccount333
@useraccount333 11 ай бұрын
Rin is actually legit asexual.
@rezkel7404
@rezkel7404 11 ай бұрын
I like how this is relevent to the current fandom debate surrounding FuwaMoco, and whether they are Seiso or not. Like they act very seiso, but then Fuwawa mind is broken, and Mococo wants to see the world burn.
@sussysugar7853
@sussysugar7853 11 ай бұрын
"A-chan has a vore fetish-" Excuse me, what?
@sophomorehat
@sophomorehat 11 ай бұрын
I would absolutely 100% go to war for Watame, I'm not joking I will enlist RIGHT NOW
@texitocfyd
@texitocfyd 11 ай бұрын
Wakipai!!
@misot90
@misot90 11 ай бұрын
"Watame brings Vengeance! Revenge for Chechnya!" -Some vidya shitposter
@pupuzero
@pupuzero 11 ай бұрын
The Watame Factory song rang in my head! WATAME WATAME WATAME MARCH WATAME WATAME WATAME FACTORY WATAME WATAME WATAME CAPTURE WATAME WATAME WATAME FACTORY WATAME WATAME WATAME SEIZE WATAME WATAME WATAME FACTORY WATAME WATAME WATAME OCCUPY WATAME WATAME WATAME FACTORY WATAME WATAME WATAME WATAME WATAME WATAME WATAME FACTORY
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
As a Chumbud I relate to this, I was just thinking about thinking about the Venti drama too🤬.
@cheeto4027
@cheeto4027 9 ай бұрын
I hooe you guys dont have to like us pikamee fans did it's more rage inducing than fun
@tinmantwentyone9282
@tinmantwentyone9282 11 ай бұрын
I'd definitely go to war for our Priestess
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis 11 ай бұрын
Word
@itswickie8545
@itswickie8545 11 ай бұрын
Nousagi never fails to make me do a little dance!
@shaithis77
@shaithis77 11 ай бұрын
Korone is in the half-seiso category: a complete psychopath (an omission from your video on that), and yet doesn’t get lewd. Even her ASMR is wholesome.
@pimp4428
@pimp4428 11 ай бұрын
Bettel definitely fits right in the half-seiso archetype. the dude swears like a sailor and fights with chat yet also refuses to be lewd simply because it just isnt his thing. he has a few moments but most of the time they're pretty tame and tolerable compared to others, he'd either freak out or just simply ignore it when things get lewd or sexual
@lillzyezz
@lillzyezz 11 ай бұрын
True and then we add shinri too while i know he's aware of some lewd stuff, he is still seiso as content creator Might as well add Rikka, the only seiso from stars jp
@tanvoltz4623
@tanvoltz4623 11 ай бұрын
Despite being a Saint Sora doesn’t really have unicorn problem. Might be because she has been here for so long that they all got filtered over time. Since she use to collab with male Vtubers back in the days and can still be seen appearing in Holostar’s chat from time to time. And as far as I am concerned, she never really got flack for it. Maybe her status as an OG also play a part that they at least respect her enough to not try anything. But who really knows.
@brandonhowell5096
@brandonhowell5096 11 ай бұрын
Well Sora is referenced as "the Goddess", much to her not wanting the title, so no matter what Sora will always be viewed positively no matter what. Truthfully as far as Vtuber tropes are concerned I'd place Sora in the enigma category.
@akito_yuki309
@akito_yuki309 11 ай бұрын
for Sora, thats her "Goddess" title that protect her, i think all Gen 0 and 1 have this protection. because if u said something mean to them, u basically dead. they dont belong to anyone and can do anything.
@tanvoltz4623
@tanvoltz4623 11 ай бұрын
@@brandonhowell5096 I mean to be fair not many can match up to her in terms of seniority and experience. Also she has a lot of good will build up that many OG Vtubers even back then only have good things to say about her. She just has that Aura that no other have. You either want to worship her like a divine being or you want to protect and take care of her like she is your younger sister/kid. You get this weird dynamic a lot in her stream. Where Soratomo calls her Aka-chan (baby) since she is often pretty childish and giddy when she streams. But every now and then she flips the switch and becomes a professional giving the Soratomo life lessons or talking about the troubles in her life and then you realize “Wait a minute, she has been doing this for almost 6 years now” then you are just at aww with how she talks. Her words have a strange weight to them that I can’t really describe, that you just can’t help but kneel in respect.
@Filcayra72
@Filcayra72 11 ай бұрын
@@tanvoltz4623at awe* but yes! Great speech! *nods*
@ootdega
@ootdega 11 ай бұрын
Sora kinda repels being held to expectations because she's just so genuine and supportive. She's fully transparent and means everything she says. There's nothing to filter, she's just a loveable person.
@kingdovachief5707
@kingdovachief5707 11 ай бұрын
I would fight a Thousand wars for Ina. She's just so warm and comforting listen to. Plus I absolutely love her puns. I would kill anyone who disrespect my priestess.
@floatingpasta8099
@floatingpasta8099 11 ай бұрын
But keep in mind fellow tako: World domINAtion but slowly
@omegazero6082
@omegazero6082 11 ай бұрын
A smile worth dying for. I agree.
@kingdovachief5707
@kingdovachief5707 11 ай бұрын
@@floatingpasta8099 One cookie at a time
@someguy6582
@someguy6582 11 ай бұрын
Ew
@vexile1239
@vexile1239 2 ай бұрын
My mum loved her too, would go to war for her
@floatingpasta8099
@floatingpasta8099 11 ай бұрын
Ina's vods are literally the only reason I avoided multiple mental breakdowns from last semester
@lordvolsung1203
@lordvolsung1203 11 ай бұрын
This video made me realize that most, if not all, of the vtubers I watch are in this category. Specifically, the Half-Seiso and the Seison't. Biggest reason why I mainly stay within Holopro (I do watch a few indies and other corpos, but I can count them with my fingers). As an IRyStocrat myself, I think you described IRyS perfectly - as an airheaded Seison't.
@Seisoks
@Seisoks 11 ай бұрын
Should have include Voms talents and Pikamee for literally seiso category. Pikamee was literally adopted by her chats as a friend.
@cheeto4027
@cheeto4027 9 ай бұрын
Pikamee would kind of be both sleeper seiso and cinnamon roll. I still remember the "9 years old is best" tweet
@RawBlue
@RawBlue 11 ай бұрын
I've been watching Gura for 2 1/2 years and have never been bored once. She's a gremlin, then she's cute, she's incredibly wholesome with her Chumbies, she plays the lewd mind game, she slips and lets her yabai side out, she goes on a schizo rant about making sweaters out of cat hair. For me she's a lot of tropes rolled into one, an incredibly interesting person and most importantly very real in being herself the majority of the time and not really putting on an act for views IMO. I like Vtubers culture and Hololive but I'm here for Gura. Sorry for the novel but just saying there are some diehard fans even if most aren't, but I understand the sentiment. Great video and interesting as always!
@Rar830
@Rar830 11 ай бұрын
I would like to report a doppelgänger sighting to the time police, I’m not going to die after reading this comment am I? Seriously though, SAME. Gura perfectly toes the line between being super yabai, without making it her thing like most of NijiEN (not my thing). And being a wholesome Cinnabon.
@RawBlue
@RawBlue 11 ай бұрын
@@Rar830 Yes! You get it! I agree too, I can't really get into NijiEN. Also doppelganger? Am I missing a reference or did you mean my and your name? Haha
@peachypie8734
@peachypie8734 11 ай бұрын
​@@RawBlueI think they meant that the both of you think the same. ⊂(・ω・*⊂)
@Dango428
@Dango428 11 ай бұрын
>Cinnamon roll >"Someone they would never want to lewd" >Ina Theres no saving the takodachis anymore
@spegynmerbles3993
@spegynmerbles3993 11 ай бұрын
Fauna and Ina are my favorite vtubers because they're so chill and comfy to watch, and their lewds are so good too
@ChaosMind10531
@ChaosMind10531 11 ай бұрын
Preach!!!
@gloopsgloops
@gloopsgloops 10 ай бұрын
"just because they are seiso, or act like it, doesn't necessarily mean that their fanbase will follow too." Whole class turns to takodachis. There was a frame in Calli's internet Yamero cover that I feel encapsulates the application of the seiso trope to real life human talents acting through a persona. "Seiso was never an option."
@Crytica.
@Crytica. 11 ай бұрын
All I just want is less lewdtubers which there are SO many of and just more seiso tubers that are chill and have a personality besides innuendos and a lewd characters
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 11 ай бұрын
I can't be anything but the impolite of a lewdtuber. I don't even use profanity nor innuendo in my daily life and won't force myself to be fake by using such in my content. So, I guess that makes me a rare seiso indie male EN vtuber. Which kinda seems to be an anti-selling point, thus far, reducing my reach and visibility. I won't change myself for that reason, though. At this point in my life, I refuse to change for anyone besides myself. I just hope I can reach the audience that enjoys wjat I have to offer, because it's currently hard to get the visibility needed to do just that.
@staplesock5549
@staplesock5549 11 ай бұрын
I've enlisted in the army for Ina, Praise the priestess!
@Butter_Warrior99
@Butter_Warrior99 11 ай бұрын
The most wholesome things have some of the most horny communities.
@MrSporkster
@MrSporkster 11 ай бұрын
Ina and Fauna are best girls.
@75084
@75084 11 ай бұрын
Keep it up depressed nousagi i appreciate it
@Airsoftotaku
@Airsoftotaku 11 ай бұрын
"12:03"They become cute and funny.... Cute and funny!? Cute and funny!? Cunny! Cunyyyyyyyyyyy!😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191
@squalleonkeneddyheart4191 11 ай бұрын
If I am to recommend your next topic I suggest for it to be "The Keyfabe"
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 11 ай бұрын
6:10 I basically consider Suisei to be seiso, which in your definition fits into half seiso. Yeah, she is violent/suicopath but she isn't sexual. She is sexualized by other people (I am a big enjoyer of "Suisex" myself ngl), not herself, I don't think that breaks the status. 8:35 OMG it has been so long since I have seen Hana anywhere outside her own channel. Man, that makes me a little nostalgic. 8:50 Oh hey, that's me in chat.
@omganotherun
@omganotherun 11 ай бұрын
5:19 Sana was indeed very sweet but I recall the April Fool's Council collab where they all gender swapped with masculine voice changers, joked about "comparing our clocks" and Sana joked "I'm the biggest one out of all of you. Wait until you see the size of my rocket. - If you call me small, I'll prove you wrong. I'll smash Uranus." Poor Fauna in the background asking "Are we still Idols?" That whole stream ties well into this video. "My Rocket is Bigger than your Clock!" into KZbin gets you the clip. /sigh I miss Sana.
@hunlepto2239
@hunlepto2239 11 ай бұрын
I feel like Jelly Hoshiumi could have been mentioned here, but then I remember her breakdowns.
@cheeto4027
@cheeto4027 9 ай бұрын
So tenma was right about giving it a bit for the mask to fall off
@John-fo4wp
@John-fo4wp 28 күн бұрын
I really Seiso Vtuber to consider is Himemiya Rie from Phase Connect; unlike Nasa or Da Michi who are unhinged and VERY lewd
@pencokun
@pencokun 4 ай бұрын
KoiPapa himself, Josuiji Shinri is DEFINITELY a sleeper seiso. He's successfully branded himself with the whole comfy cozy, "single dad" brand in HoloTempus and had also stated that he does not want to make lewd content, but regular viewers of his would know that sometimes he would reveal his infatuation for ghosts and demons and whatnot. He's Laios-coded, basically. Gold Bullet from ARMIS is kinda similar, but he seems to be significantly more open about it. He once said on stream that would not hold back once he starts doing ASMR content. It helps that he is very much himbo-coded too.
@DragonxFlutter
@DragonxFlutter 11 ай бұрын
@5:28 - YES! Despite her model, Sanana was 100% a seiso cinnamon roll! She could make the jokes, but on the whole she was just comfy and sweet and wanted to bring good vibes; even when trolling! It's one of the reasons I miss her so much!
@horizonbumpy2828
@horizonbumpy2828 11 ай бұрын
13:09 i'm getting flashbacks of ''ina's back''
@meijilover
@meijilover 11 ай бұрын
0:52 THE SORA CLIP SENT ME SOARING THROUGH THE SKY
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 11 ай бұрын
2:20 "some Seiso that try and fail" LOL Nenechi tries to be Lewd and fails miserably because shes so damn airheadedly cute
@CDsNutsBud
@CDsNutsBud 11 ай бұрын
Rosemi Lovelock is "Ascended Seiso", Seiso beyond Seiso, unimaginable levels of Seiso
@omegazero6082
@omegazero6082 11 ай бұрын
This video ended up explaining why many lewd vtubers get boring or heavy after some time. Sure, is fine to follow one or two but it might get very tiresome for some.
@barnykirashi
@barnykirashi 11 ай бұрын
4:13 Ah okay, thanks for clarifying, we are not talking about a British Aircraft Repair Auxillary Aircraft Carrier from World War II.
@leandroiuki4337
@leandroiuki4337 11 ай бұрын
God is the Seiso Representative.
@disodosid
@disodosid 11 ай бұрын
i love this series so much
@basedsketch4133
@basedsketch4133 11 ай бұрын
Best part of the day a new nousagi vid
@ae1xy736
@ae1xy736 11 ай бұрын
your bgm taste is so good!
@fatcoyote2
@fatcoyote2 11 ай бұрын
Good vid. Am a little surprised Honey Goblin didn't make an appearance. She's basically Indie Ina.
@vrnehot
@vrnehot 11 ай бұрын
"you'd actually go to war for them" - This is not even a joke, I have a feeling that I can literally do anything if it will protect her smile
@thehillz726
@thehillz726 11 ай бұрын
Seisos are a big part of what got me into vtubers and why I'm still a hololive fan. The cinnamon rolls and seisonts specifically They felt so different from the streamers I'd seen up to that point and so different from the other content I'd seen you to that point, like let's plays dispite being that but a moe anime, kinda
@vexile1239
@vexile1239 2 ай бұрын
My mum absolutely loved and adored Ina, she really enjoyed her streams and clips
@11luismp
@11luismp 11 ай бұрын
Love the Asmon and Kasii clip
@bloom0099
@bloom0099 11 ай бұрын
LMAO LUCA THE AIRHEAD... I knew it before you showed it
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys 11 ай бұрын
Ina, Fauna, Fuwamoco, Rosemi, Luca, and Shu. Enna also counts too, if you ignore her potty mouth
@jayoliver3568
@jayoliver3568 11 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm choosing pokemon all over again. Types with advantages and what not. DN is our guiding Professor Oak.
@bulatbatoev6462
@bulatbatoev6462 11 ай бұрын
Hearing oldschool Ina bgm was really touching.
@saniharuo
@saniharuo 11 ай бұрын
once you finish the vtuber tropes list, you should make a quiz for vtubers to take to see what their trope is!
@dr_pibby
@dr_pibby 11 ай бұрын
I think a good analogy for un/seiso Vtuber types is like categorizing amusement park rides. Some are known and meant to be gentle, and others are meant to be a an exciting rollercoaster. Sometimes the gentle rides have their thrilling moments because something unforeseen happens. Rollercoasters stop or slow down at times, creating moments of relaxation. And of course there's the in-between.
@waterking74
@waterking74 Ай бұрын
Fauna, ina, and suisei: *why should we be lewd when the fan base does it itself naturally*
@arkanine8076
@arkanine8076 11 ай бұрын
Great video , DN! But one thing I've been wondering: do you think it's possible for male vtubers to fit the seiso trope? I know the trope itself is mostly associated with female vtubers, but I'm curious. Also, who would be a good example of a seiso male vtuber?
@heroicxidiot
@heroicxidiot 11 ай бұрын
Seiso isn't gender bound. It's a trope for a reason. I'd say altare falls under one for the seiso subclasses
@parps6dita290
@parps6dita290 11 ай бұрын
I mean he included Luca Kaneshiro for seiso, other seiso en male vtubers are Shu yamino, Ike eveland and I think ( haven't watched a lot of them but from what I've seen) Sonny brisko, doppio dropscythe and ver vermillion
@rafaelcarrasco2600
@rafaelcarrasco2600 11 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he did not add Shinri from holostar EN on the video.
@lillzyezz
@lillzyezz 11 ай бұрын
Bettel and rikka can be part of it Bettel curses a lot but isn't sexual Same goes for rikka, even if his collab partners are giving lewd jokes the contrast is just great
@s_factor_sam
@s_factor_sam 11 ай бұрын
I'd say that we can fit the trope. I'm a living example of one who doesn't even use profanity nor innuendo in my daily life, so I'm naturally devoid of such in my content. Problem is, it seems that being such as a male vtuber more often results in a detriment to the breadth of one's appeal and reach, while female counterparts reap the benefits laid out in this video. I've personally seen people calling seiso boring, fake/not real, unrelateable, and have had someone tell me that my very nature made them suspicious of me as a potential predator. That kind of unjust negative connotation was kind of a wake-up call to how people can view a clean male vtuber. Regardless, I have no intention of being anything but my genuine self. I just hope that doing so doesn't prove to hinder me long-term, as I'd like to someday be able to afford putting more time and money into videos and streams than I'm currently able to.
@wc9760
@wc9760 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for including Nano. She's pure seiso.
@whazzup_teacup
@whazzup_teacup 11 ай бұрын
Cinnamon rolls are my vtuber comfort food.
@numbers93
@numbers93 24 күн бұрын
Feels like a Professor Landro lecture
@aquamarinerose5405
@aquamarinerose5405 8 ай бұрын
> Some try lewdness and fail. I don't think I ever got big enough to actually "Try" lewdness, but that hit me personally because I remembered when I first got interested in trying to be a vtuber/pngtuber/whatever (put that on hiatus because I suck at scheduling and have no following), I was really into examples of furry vtubers like Chester and Raeal, who both are very willing to go waaaay out of the seiso line (Though I also realize that furry vtubers and anime vtubers are probably different breeds and different ecosystems). But being too shy, nervous, and autistic kinda kept me from making bad jokes.
@muhammadamarzarkafar2216
@muhammadamarzarkafar2216 11 ай бұрын
My brain hurt. So much information!!
@Irystocrat1134
@Irystocrat1134 11 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about divas? The Irys, nerissa and suisei type?
@xenomorfo6145
@xenomorfo6145 11 ай бұрын
Damm another based video about vtubers, how are you this good?
@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU
@Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU 11 ай бұрын
I am curious, Nenechi would be categorized as an airhead? That's the image I get drom she and Roboco
@aurinrakkun8589
@aurinrakkun8589 11 ай бұрын
Man, if Numi isn’t the definition of the Airhead variant of Seison’t, I dunno who is. Active GL consumer, covers lewd songs, but turns into a stuttering nervous wreck when CottontailVA rizzes her up.
@Paul-bs5wl
@Paul-bs5wl 11 ай бұрын
9:59 I humbly request that you never say the phrase "absolute sex monster" with the Bae VRchat model on screen again. Seiso are the best chuubas 🙏
@jaimerodriguez8612
@jaimerodriguez8612 11 ай бұрын
I was honestly not prepared for how invested i would become in Watame. She's so sweet and kind, I just couldn't help but root for her. I remember watching one clip about how a Watamate said her voice feels like a hug and it does, it really does.
@imnotkentiy
@imnotkentiy 11 ай бұрын
So, I found this series not long ago, and binge watched it. And sometimes I was like, "damn, that sounds familiar". On one video I can swear, I heard that exact sentence word for word somewhere. I searched, and I have a question. Is this inspired by the trope talk series? I have seen exactly 2 (two) comments about it, and I don't see why. It is so funny to see the parallels and I have no idea why. Tell me it is real, it would be even funnier P.s.: collab with OSP when?
@ZeeRAZM
@ZeeRAZM 11 ай бұрын
Iroha is perfect.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 11 ай бұрын
01:14 Shiina Nanoha ! Seiso vampire singer. 100% seiso and 0% lewd since 2020
@melishidiao7148
@melishidiao7148 11 ай бұрын
Question: what category is haachama? From saiso too the deepest
@SCP-1762-BOL
@SCP-1762-BOL 11 ай бұрын
For the longest time I thought it was, "say so"
@epiced7568
@epiced7568 11 ай бұрын
I love your content but frick you for the jump scare in the intro. 😢❤
@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988
@rafaelfigfigueiredo2988 11 ай бұрын
Schrodinger Seiso is such a hilarious concept
@tabibitoteoh2030
@tabibitoteoh2030 11 ай бұрын
The saint troupe is ridiculously rare, yet in my opinion, it is the most respectable. The world is cruel enough to nearly cause their extinction yet if you look well enough, they will always be there when you need them. And god do we need them with the ratio of seiso to lewd in this world
@advasity339
@advasity339 11 ай бұрын
Wake up honey, new DN video just dropped.
@seneca983
@seneca983 11 ай бұрын
1:05 "something assigned to them upon debut" This doesn't always stick, though. I'm specifically thinking about Otogibara Era, though there are probably other examples too.
@Prominent_Dex
@Prominent_Dex 11 ай бұрын
You may see an owl in my pfp but it’s really just a mutated or rather SUPER EVOLVED Takodachi. The priestess can do no wrong even if she tried. she’s a horrible villain who doesn’t know how to be a villain so she just chills while the tako’s enact her plans that she knows nothing about. She will rule the world EVEN if she doesn’t even know she will
@loudradialem5233
@loudradialem5233 9 ай бұрын
Amatsuka Uto is my oshi for this reason. She also has great interaction with her fans, a bit of a gremlin and funny.
@leoaltivez7161
@leoaltivez7161 11 ай бұрын
So where would I put Scarle here?
@No-pk1bs
@No-pk1bs 11 ай бұрын
9:08 WAIT WHAT?!
@Tampenismall
@Tampenismall 11 ай бұрын
The jack Daniel is enough to make me laugh
@iliadx7495
@iliadx7495 11 ай бұрын
Is this guy using teaching feeling soundtrack in the first 3 minutes background music?
@PrimeroJinJusuke
@PrimeroJinJusuke 11 ай бұрын
Doppio Dropscythe is the sleeper seison‘t.
@EddieAFool
@EddieAFool 11 ай бұрын
Can Sleeper seiso be renamed to Imposter seiso or the sus seiso
@jelleluyten5017
@jelleluyten5017 11 ай бұрын
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