Design vs Lore The Blood Angels

[@rodneyr5266]

It was so good to see Sunny find her legion, and her disgust with the Primaris version. This was a great episode, thank you for taking the time to cover so much.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I also very excited to find my legion! I think it was because I could relate to it artistically, it made the creative juices flow for the redesigns. Which I was quite happy about, but I am even happier that you guys are enjoying them as well ~ Sunny

[@robtibbetts890]

This video is really enjoyable. I don’t mind the longer runtime to dive deeper in the amount of art that’s available and to dig deeper in the analysis.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yeah I think the longer run time comes mostly from redesign because of their recent redesign - Cal

[@randombencounter263]

I enjoy the blood angels a lot. In my mind, they're the chaos legion who wasn't. They lose control easily, they're sensitive to human emotions and especially fear, they lost their primarch and their homeworld, they've been under heavy scrutiny from their very inception, they thirst for human blood, they should have turned at a million different points in their history and somehow they're *still* not just loyal to the imperium but one of the few groups in the game I'd actually call heroic. They have an entire successor chapter who are known for taking catastrophic losses because they insist on protecting civilians over pursuing mission objectives.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yeah I think calling them heroic is good, but they are more like anti villains in they have to fight their nature the whole time - Cal

[@maxbrandt6]

Horus made it so they never turn to Choas because of his actions concerning Sanguinius.

[@Stormeris]

I've never been a big fan of the OG Blood Angels, but i love some of their successor chapters like the Lamenters, despite their Taxi-cab color scheme.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I think the OG Blood Angels are good when they do some of the things we talk about but mostly when they have those different elements like the Sanguinary Guard and the Death Company - Cal

[@7hird3ye]

Sunny's joy dissecting this legion was so contagious. I am in agreement thay the primaris update for the beautiful Angels removed so much of their personality. 😢 The editing and work on the episodes feels like is getting better and better. Beautiful work guys!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much for your compliments on the editing! I put a lot of effort into this effort I don't know what came over me because as I was writing notes for this legion I felt the need to do some quick redesigns to make it better and stuff hahah ~Sunny

[@7hird3ye]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow I deeply appreciate the redesigns. I think so much work is put into these factions that GW often ignore or forget. There is a beautiful foundation to so much of the world. Respecting whilst dissecting the hard work and artistry of what has gone on with these little plastic guys is deeply appreciated.

[@lanasmith4795]

Hearing her accidentally paraphrase things Gabriel said brings happiness to me

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@lanasmith4795 it happened in the Night Lords video too I will admit my crime of not reading their omnibus. Yet, Sunny said the hero line because one of the artworks and people lost it over that - Cal

[@rina-ehre]

Watched all the ads + subscribed. This video is worth this.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much it was probably two and a bit weeks of work. Each minute of video we have usually put an hour to two so yeah about 120 hours worth of work at least - Cal

[@davidkwiecien415]

YES! This is one of my two favorite video series you do. (The other is the color psychology)

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much I don't think you are alone on this one I think a lot of people like this and the colour videos - Cal

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

Sunny the giga stacy showing off her extravagant and based tastes again

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I'll need to put that down as another W on my list of Ws 😂~Sunny

[@gammothdraws]

WOO! Blood Angels! Oh father Sanguinius, bless this episode!!!!!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@gammothdraws hope you enjoy it's one of our longest ever videos

[@gammothdraws]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow it was really great. Didnt even notice the length until about 5 minutes in lol. But I like that longer form content, especially when painting

[@RadikalKit]

I know absolutely nothing about Warhammer lore but this video has still been great accompaniment to today’s painting.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I am glad people can get something out of these videos regardless of if they do or don't have Warhammer knowledge because that's our aim. We want to talk about design and how interesting it is. And that Warhammer's 'simplistic' space marines may have a bit more to them beyond they have big space gun - Cal

[@alvarobarandiaran8848]

First time caller here, I've been watching your videos for the better part of this year so far, and I thought I should congratulate you both on an absolute home run of an episode with this one. I've no doubt that this was a particularly time-consuming endeavour but i think this might be your best video yet in this series in spite of its longer runtime. While I'm a dark angels player myself, the whole concept from 2nd edition of the angels of death codex has always sorta made me want to have a combined force of these two types of angels taking on the battlefield together. Some years ago i picked up a blood angels omnibus and there were some really good stories there, especially the one with the sanguinor-like being if anyone remembers that one. On that note, i wonder if there's any novels out there that have the blood angels and dark angels working together? That would be really cool to read if such a book exists. In short, I thoroughly enjoyed this detailed look at the blood angels, and rest assured blood angels players all over the place will absolutely love this one no doubt. Keep up the quality work, cheers!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much for your kind words 😊 it was quite a bit of work. I have to be increasing strategic in what I show Sunny otherwise she guess straight away everything. It's frustrating and rewarding at the same time. And yeah you're not wrong it was a lot of work - Cal

[@chadking375]

I’m always happy when people find “their” part of the mythos……. and also find themselves with the same disgust with Primaris that 10+ year vets have.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Well Sunny doesn't have the lore baggage we do but she is very artistic so that's why she dislikes those templates - Cal

[@RSBurgener]

I started my 40k hobby with the Angels of Death Codex at age 16. I cannot overstate what a perfect fit it was for me: I was vampire goth kid with long blonde hair, trying to become an artist who was struggling with his emotions every day. Now almost 30 years later, now that we finally have up to date models, I am creating my own successor chapter called the Mournful Lords. I want to see whether I can bring my vision into reality. Thanks for going over all of this; it was great food (or blood) for thought!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@RSBurgener oh man that name, I feel like 'The Lords of Mourning' would sound so badass. I hope you enjoyed the episode and I hope you will check out some of the others. Good luck with your custom chapter - Cal

[@RSBurgener]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow thanks, Cal. I am going to "chew upon" that, as the Dramaturge, Shakespire, would say. Either way, I think I'm onto a good concept: Morr from Warhammer Fantasy plus Blood Angels. Crying angel statues and bleeding hearts. I got the best model tombstones in existence from the UK for the bases. I'm ready for this! 😅

[@jackflashman3322]

This was definitely my favorite DvL episode so far. I think all the redesigns were great!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you so very much we obviously put a lot of effort into it and we are glad to hear that you enjoyed it. The Tomb Armour was difficult to get right - Cal

[@sapperaj8114]

Really enjoy the chapter episodes. Looking forward to Salamanders!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

We will get there but it will take a little while - Cal

[@andrewkomlyev4877]

Great video as always. Cant wait for the next. 10th legion needs some love.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I am going to have to do a lot of research with them because they don't have nearly as much lore in general but also there lore is almost sectioned off - Cal

[@Nallenbot]

Love these!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much if you love it please share it - Cal

[@Nallenbot]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow have done! Ya know, for the angel or whomever 😉

[@PopeJrod]

The all black Chaplains are called the Erelim and they serve as the guardians of the tower of the lost on Baal. They never leave the tower, guarding their brothers who have fallen to the rage in direct service to Astorath.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yep that's correct - Cal

[@davidkwiecien415]

14:48 Vampires in Venice? Dr who?

[@excalibursaurusm5701]

Every other chapter Sunny - they are pretty cool The Blood Angels Sunny - look at my good baby boys.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

This is true 😎 ~Sunny

[@excalibursaurusm5701]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow we love the boys in Red.

[@miguelperez9906]

Loved Yall did my favorite legion but what I enjoyed the most was the exitment and enthusiasm both of you showed in this video it was super lively

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thanks very much it was hard not to ~ Sunny I will blame Sunny for the enthusiasm, she got very excited and then I got more excited, a hype train of two - Cal

[@WarmasterPainting]

This series is really interesting, thanks for your in depth videos. I'm looking forward to when you cover the Word Bearers 👌

[@ericred5305]

This was a great video, I watch a fair amount of hobby vids and yours are some of the most useful, more recently I think a lot more about colours and selections than simply painting by numbers and this is really helpful...watching this I came to realise just how clever GW actually is, they are deliberate in their approach, I was aware that they match schemes with lore, but the depths that they go to is extraordinary...it is much more complex than simply pushing pieces around a tabletop...

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I think it's also the fact that they get to add stuff to it or as some would some say post ad Hoc, they just justified all their stuff by adding all of the Horus Heresy stuff where they put a lot of work into it - Cal

[@ericred5305]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow that is maybe the real genius of GW; you get to add and craft it the way you like...before them, everyone played historicals, mostly Neopolionic and some WW2, but they are fixed in their schemes....then came along Space Marines or rather Rouge Traders and then chapters, and you get to choose how you want to paint them, very clever...it has become so broad, there is something for everyone...keep up the great work

[@reinretter9655]

I really like the video, I actually wish you went more in depth on the design vs lore. I like these english essays

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

The issue is obviously we put a lot of work into these ones so every extra minutes is usually another hour or two of work - Cal

[@reinretter9655]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow that makes sense, well covering a chapter and their individual exploits and what makes them somewhat different from other chapters would be awesome

[@stingblademaster]

Sunny’s impression are very much the same I had when I fell in love with the Blood Angels!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@stingblademaster I am glad there is some relatable reactions - Cal

[@joaogabrielsilvadarosa9734]

5:03 - Sunny has good taste. She gets it. XD

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

But of course!!! How could we not? ~Sunny

[@apeman371]

Very late to the party but I wanted to comment as I really felt this video was a big leap forward for you. I've really enjoyed your videos due to the really interesting content you guys include and the vast amount of research you obviously do. However, for me it has always felt like both of you were reading off a script. Whereas here it felt like you properly clicked to have a natural spundong conversation based on detailed research, which is a really difficult thing. From experience, i know this is a really hard barrier to crossover so i wanted to point it out to you and congratulate you on it. Keep up the good work!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Glad you enjoyed it hope you continue to enjoy - Cal

[@HorizonIsHere1337]

Sunny's defence of the Blood Angels throughout this is hilarious and worth every minute of watching. Loved her pick up of them having a strong appreciation of art.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yeah I don't know what came over me just felt the need to defend our sons of Sanguinius so fiercely! Hahah ~Sunny

[@thepiratepenguin4465]

16:47 House Kurita from Battletech has a similar colour scheme and considers themselves noble and honourable. However, they have committed significant atrocities, including devastating a planet by decapitating thousands of prisoners and committing other war crimes on a massive scale. Their mechs feature green canopies, which I believe evoke a similar effect to green eyes, symbolizing their envy of House Steiner’s economic success and House Davion’s political stability.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Well I will be a red and black faction that sees themselves as the good guys but do terrible actions... who knows where this connection comes from... bamboozled again - Cal

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

Imagine if House Kurita (or any of the other Houses from Battletech) were to fall to Chaos?!

[@drebodollaz3504]

I disagree with the eyes too. Spawn, Ermac, the Flesh tearers. Glowing green eyes look alien and menacing.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Totally fair - Cal

[@colin_painting_adventure]

Excellent video

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much sir 😊 hope you enjoy - Cal

[@7hird3ye]

Holy shit Cal, I am ababsolutly kitbashing a Vetruvian man with my Stormcasts. Brilliant idea.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Glad got something out of it - Cal

[@grumpycato8314]

Shared for the angels

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you so very much that means a tremendous amount - Cal

[@davidkwiecien415]

Shared for the Angel!

[@HorizonIsHere1337]

Love these so much. I always get ideas even for my own army watching these.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

That's fantastic! That is the intention with these design videos so I'm happy it's working 😁 ~Sunny

[@trevorsmith9985]

Interesting thing about the Sanguinor is that the head you like is actually the most hated part of him in the community. On the old one it is a head and the new is a helmet, the Sanguinor is not just some guy in armour it is a mental projection or a psychic echo or an imperial demon or something so the old head showed gold flesh in gold armour with more real looking wings, the new one shows only a guy in armour with a helmet and mechanical wings similar to Astorath. (The black winged, flesh armoured Chaplain with the Axe at 47:15).

[@CrimsonKightsOfBaal]

Pretty uch finished watching this video, first one of your's I've watched and it's bloody good. I'll take a look at your other videos.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thanks, but I don't expect anything to be as long as this one this is our longest video ever! But we felt it had to be. We try never to waste people's time. I hope you enjoy your stay - Cal

[@CrimsonKightsOfBaal]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow I watched to the end. I wouldn't expect it to be given the amount of editing that went into just this one video. I understand why it needed to be this long given the recent disconnect from the models and lore recently. The vast majority of the video hits pretty much every mark.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@CrimsonKightsOfBaal Thank you very much sir, yeah that is pretty much why it was this length because of their recent redesign. We felt if we didn't go into that it really would have not been complete. It's probably one of our longest redesign sections ever - Cal

[@jaegerbomb269]

Blood Angels are a close second favorite Legion / Chapter. Well said.

[@draketurtle4169]

I think it’s worth noting that the blood angels are one of those chapters that has been decimated at least once so some of their original culture is going to be lost by the time primaris reinforces their ranks. I think narratively the blood angels and their successors are one of the more interesting legions because they have such tragedy and shame after the heresy. The black accents I think suits them within that context, they are not as much a proud and regal legion but one In perpetual mourning and shame in losing their primarch. (Sanguinius is just that great a figure that they are lost without him) That aside this video is great, dare I say the best in this series so far.

[@soates100]

shared for the angel

[@DuckyZA-y4e]

I know absolutely nothing about 40K, Sunny's rant made it so entertaining.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

🤣 well I'm glad you got a kick out of it! You will see more ranting of primaris in future videos ~Sunny

[@paulburton5264]

I would be really interested to see what you think of the Iron Hands and how you might improve their colour scheme.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Well it not too far off now - Cal

[@bashkaai]

Shared for the angel I'm gonna have to do some, now aren't I?

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

You don't have to you can just claim your current as a blood angel ha ha - Cal P.s this will only make sense to the group members ha

[@novaprime4831]

I started loving the Blood Angels bc I like the color red. The fact they have awesome lore is just a happy coincidence

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

The park in you is stronk, red da best est so me choosem the red guy. Well at least they go really fast - Cal

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

BY THE BLOOD WE ARE MADE STRONG

[@quart5extakkord]

That last portrait looks like Ed Harris as General Hummel in the film "the rock". The one at 59:15

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

You know I had to look it up... but you know, you're not wrong - Cal

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

BLOOD ANGELS, LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Hope you enjoyed it, it was one of our longest ever - Cal

[@blackwolf671]

Can't wait for you guys to cover the XVIth.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Few months off yet - Cal

[@TheRedVyper]

The Red Vyper is pleased.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I know this red viper character I have heard that they have terrorized Florida for some time, and was once seen in Chicago but, that could have been a copy cat - Cal

[@davidkwiecien415]

12:28 my gf is all art nouveau, I’m all art deco. It makes for interesting home designs

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

**Acting deliberately oblivious** they both have art in their name how could they be - Cal

[@KyleDudak]

Great series

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you very much what got you into it? 😊 - Cal

[@0815UserII]

What hits me the most is that they did go and design the winged jump packs for Astorath and the Sanguinor, but then did not use the same design (maybe with smaller wings, Astaroth's wings at least are kind of big) for the Sanguinary guard. The fact the new deathmasks and armors all looks the same is also a bit sad, but the wings are the big part. Agree on the filigree transfer idea, that would do so much for Blood Angels without driving people mad. And the people that really like doing that kind of stuff as freehand still can do it. A generic filigree transfer could even do double duty for 40k and Horus Heresy games, as Blood Angels in both times did decorate their armor to some degree. On top of the wings and heads you showed, there are also a ton of 3d printable shoulder pards that bring in decorative elements to the trim there, GW should just get over themselves and set clear and fair rules of what can and can not be 3d printed for playing in official events or in their stores.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yeah it's not often I am in total agreement with what a commenter say but yeah pretty dang close if not spot on here. I am glad you can see with the transfer sheet we are thinking of the painters. Great comment 👍 - Cal

[@Kolyarut]

The outstanding detail for me, which I hadn't noticed before, were the remarks about Venetian fashion in their schemes and designs - one of the lesser-noticed aspects of the Blood Angels is a naming and cultural tradition pulled from Rennaisance Italy (especially Dante's Inferno, naturally), and to have noticed that before getting any of the actual lore of the legion is an incredible observation!

[@Kolyarut]

Minor note about the Death Company art at 55:18 - I actually really like what they've done here, and I've painted it into one of my Death Company marines too - the expression isn't necessarily one of evil, or predation - he just looks very, very tired, but too preoccupied to (ever) be able to rest. In his head, he's still fighting the good fight, he's just lost that ability to differentiate between reality and history.

[@Pallyk426]

I can agree with you on a lot of that, given the issues of the sanguinary guard feeling a bit more generic. But, the spears and swords were a decent change in my opinion showing further this divine idea of the great angel's preferred weapons. These being the encarmine blade (woo another term of blood) and the spear of telesto. The upgrade kit that is coming along side this redesign could help with the problem but not as much your ideas.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

There is an upgrade kit coming for the sanguinary guard?? - Cal

[@Pallyk426]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow For the blood angels in general but can be used on the sanguinary guard to add more decorations. Though does not add more decorated deathmasks or wings sadly. Also sunny, they have the filigree details in the horus heresy decals

[@vicnedel02]

I think the "lore reason" for the Primaris blood angel models being less fancy is the Devastation of Baal. So many marines died and their armor was destroyed that they could not replace what was lost. The new stuff is a pale imitation of what was lost and the blood of Sanguinious has been thinned in the process. I hate this explanation, but its the one we got.

[@abgea]

I think once sunny and cal get up to the 13th legion then this series will truly take iff. Great video, loved the enthusiasm this episode. I miss my little winged primarch ... He was a good boi.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Indeed he was the goodest of bois 10/10 would fight demon again - Cal

[@HappyVoidWanderer]

Really hope you show Sunny a Firedrake and a Pyroclast for the Salamanders analisys Cal. They help give the Sallys an identity in HH

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Perhaps... We will see what templates are available. The art often gives away too much - Cal

[@gingerlicious3500]

The Primaris redesign, especially with the models, breaks my heart. Especially after Black Templars and Dark Angels got SUCH good refreshes. Blood Angels are my favorite chapter, but I'm probably not going to collect them until they get a proper redesign a la their old tactical squad box.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I'm not sure if they will do it to the same quality of style though 🫤 judging by the way they design the marines these days ~Sunny

[@gingerlicious3500]

@WhatareyouPaintingnow I'm probably just coping, but I'm hoping that after GW finishes its refreshes and completely replaces the Firstborn line (only Space Wolves left, and after that I have trouble thinking about what needs to be replaced aside from Assault Terminators) GW will go in on making more Chapter-specific ranges for it's models. Or will at least expand its upgrade sprues. And if not, then off to the realm of 3D printers I go! At least once I've got the scratch and space for it.

[@mostcomplicatedman8115]

yes i love design vs lore

[@EVER_PRINCE]

Oh shit! We doing the Blangles?!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Glorious Blangels! - Cal

[@rumbleroocomics]

I'm not angry at Horace, I'm just passionate - Sunny of the Death Company (not edited)

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@rumbleroocomics hahahah!🤣 Um actuallyyyyy it's death company hehe 🤭 ~Sunny

[@rumbleroocomics]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow yes exactly Death Company

[@davidkwiecien415]

1:21:48 shared to all my discords

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you so very much that means a lot! - Cal

[@davidkwiecien415]

7:44 I would say that it looks like they are completely covered in blood except the feet. If you look at where the shin guards meet the boots it looks like dark blood

[@BlizzardofKnives]

I come for the 30k/40k, I stay for the art history.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yeah there was actually quite a bit even I was surprised when Sunny busted it out but it is to be expected with the Blood Angels, being all artsy and thirsty ever so thirsty - Cal

[@Cmaximus7]

Honestly id love to see an alpha legion video!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

We will get there but we are a bit off doing tenth this week - Cal

[@thiscernunnos6230]

FOR THE ANGEL, FOR THE LIGHT, FOR THE EMPEROR. s h a r e

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you so much for the share, it really does mean ALOT - Cal

[@darthpejter]

I love Yours designer vs lore videos. But I need to clarification one thing: gold trim on post heresy pauldron is reserved for 2nd company on codex complaint chapters. 3rd had red trim, 4th green, 5th black, 6th mustard, 7th purple, 8th grey, and 10th had none trim

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I believe that is right but don't know off the top of my head - Cal

[@darthpejter]

​@@WhatareyouPaintingnowbelieve that. GW is not very consistent with using their own lore, but company markings is one thing that stuck in my mind since I saw my fist codex in 3rd edition 😅

[@nikoazure5235]

The group I have the most mixed feelings about

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Me and Sunny what did we do **Runs crying off in misunderstanding** - Cal

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

Something I’m surprised you didn’t touch on was that the Xs and the reds were meant to symbolize the WOUNDS sanguinius got in his battle with horus, every chord, the placements of crosses etc etc these were just as much as they are tragic figures in the lore-they are a reminder to the rest of the blood angels that THIS fate isn’t an if, it’s a WHEN. It adds to the drama to witness these as they rampage through- it’s a weird story telling harmony that combines the revenant legion, the sorrow of the death of sanguinius, and the pain of a dreaded future that this is a fate that comes for you- but other than that this was a really cool breakdown Also the sanguinor new head feels so ugly and I can’t believe you guys are like it’s so cool LOL

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

You got a source on that lore? - Cal

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

@@WhatareyouPaintingnow i remember reading it from the 8th edition codex when I started getting into the hobby, I don’t have the codex with me anymore but I’m sure there’s a wiki or something more concrete that can point to that detail

[@changelingiris9409]

Just a video suggestion: How about you taking a look at the classic 2nd edition 'Redhammer' style with it's Goblin Green bases and overall less grimdark vibes? Would love to hear your opinions about it.

[@Dram1984]

Oddly I appreciate the primaris designs because they feel more like 2e and 3e marines. Originally all the divergent chapters weee basically just different colored normal space marines with some special characters and maybe a special unit or two. It wasn’t until later that each of them leaned 110% into being unique and special. (Too far in some cases *cough* space wolves * ) So I like the primaris pulling back a bit on the “everyone is special” feeling the divergent chapters developed. To quote the Incredibles; “when everyone is special, no one is”

[@rutgaurxi7314]

What terrible, terrible, taste you have... Primaris of all things, tsk, tsk (I hope you're at least a bit based and convert them up a bit!).

[@Dram1984]

@@rutgaurxi7314 lol, I don’t love everything about (the lore, the rules rug pulling, the helmets, etc…) but I do like the “blandification” of the divergent chapters that I feel got way too over the top in their various schticks. Also the larger scale is nice. I also enjoy vanilla ice cream.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@Dram1984 I think of all of the reactions and reasons behind the like of the primarius this the I can understand the most. However I disagree, but I will explain why because I think you will get it because that syndrome quote was spot on. So, the template isn't a painting template or a colour guide. It is shown in the lore sections of the book. I think that if they were in the painting section not that truly existing any more I think yeah I could understand. However, those old pictures we show at the start of 40k section are the old templates. They aren't super detailed but as you can see with Sunny's reactions she can still get a lot out of them. I think that is how they should be. Have the 100 dollar supplement book for your chapter or whatever with the fancy art like in the 30K books. Everyone's primary complaint is that the primarius are soulless, why give them such an easy win. If it was in the painting section along with a colourless one you can photocopy I would be 200% with you - Cal

[@trivialpershoot]

Sanguinor or... Dr Zaius

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I some how think he does very little break dancing... wait no, that's right - Cal

[@gilbertgarnica7896]

Blood for the blood God……….. Skulls for the 12th!!!!!!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

A little early but I like the passion - Cal

[@rayvg7709]

"you could kitbash these two together to make a better model" Ding ding ding thats exactly what I think GW is doing, just so they can sell more kits to us.

[@speaktome4778]

Hey kid, do you know why cherry blossoms turn red? Because there's a dead body burried under it! Or at least in Japan they say the blood creates that color. Not sure what that has to do with BA 🤷‍♂️ Sorry I'm late to the party but that was a really fun episode. Thanks guys!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Ha so they are the blood trees omg... The blood angels are on brand if nothing else - Cal

[@chrish3010]

Why did the second armour (the first red one) have 4 instead of 9 as the legion number

[@tonlito22]

Would Sunny say that the Death Company are the end and the death?

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Sunny doesn't even know that reference ha ha ha - Cal Isn't that a book? ~ Sunny

[@maxbrandt6]

And remember, the Blood Angels have been doing this for the past 10,000 years! That's a long time to be pissed off!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@maxbrandt6 Sunny says they aren't angry they are just passionate - Cal

[@damianallen4964]

Primaris Marines have gutted the core aesthetic appeal of 40k, in my own potentially/probably pretentious artist opinion. They closer resemble Star Wars Clone troopers, in their mass produced and same-y designs, rather than the embodiment of millennia old warrior traditions.

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I don't like being negative but I can't fault a lot of that. I think the helmet are interested but I am picking up what you're putting down - Cal

[@deadknight1402]

The real ones know that historical knights fucking loved having floral (various meanings depending on the flower) and heart-shaped (vitality, strength, and courage) patterns on their weapons, armour, and clothing. Unicorns and pegasi, too. The 3rd pre-heresy artwork's marine has a striking resemblance to the Polish Winged Hussars of the 17th century. Sanguinius also got his legion into art to help them hold back the Red Thirst. I mean, it's not like the Inquisition doesn't already know about the Death Company. They most definitely do. What're they gonna do about it? Kill the chapter of the most beloved primarch in the Imperium? Risk a civil war with the Inquisition on the shit list of every single human being in existence? Not even they're irrational enough for that. Besides, the Death Company are mainly sent on suicide missions, with the hopes that they all will die in battle (hence why they're called the Death Company), and even if there's somehow someway any survivors who can report it, the Blood Angels can take advantage of the different heraldry to say that they're a different chapter. What does the common Guardsman know? Anyways, I think the Space Wolves sic'ing the Wulfen is way riskier than the Blood Angels sending the Death Company. Didn't hear you have any of these complaints about the Wulfen.

[@robainsworth2014]

She was right BA are noble 😆

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I don't know I am still suspicious there seems to be a lot of blood related stuff going on - Cal

[@adamred5449]

source on mutans being able to be turned into BA? I believe you I just want to be able to fully read it for myself

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

I will admit that was a bit lazy on my part and not confirming but it came from an occlusious imperium I believe his called video - Cal

[@nikoazure5235]

The Primaris are model wise much better but i hate how they just remove so much on thier templates

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

@@nikoazure5235 yeah I really don't think it helps their case you're not wrong - Cal

[@gasmonkey1000]

I think the bland design of the Primaris Blood Angels is almost deliberate by GW. Gabriel Seth expressed a fear of the bloodline of Sanguinius being replaced by "little Ultramarines." And very few of these Primaris reinforcements have had time to acclimate to their proper chapter, they grew up in Papa Cawl's basement so they don't know Baal's traditions

[@JABEK336]

The reason the black winged marine didnt feel like a Blood Angel is because it wasnt, it is not a piece of official art.

[@myonlyfriendtheend4958]

I hate the new death company models so much I feel you sunny AND TO RUB EXTRA SALT IN THE WOUND THE MOBILE 40K GAME HAS DEATH COMPANY AND THEY'RE FUCKING BANGER MODELS

[@linhle8294]

She hates the Primaris version so much, after the redesign she sounds like Trump

[@skullinski2957]

She totally knows more about the lore than she lets on. Just be honest fake pretending not to know lore just to sound surprised isnt interesting

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Okay sure if you think so... But no level of information would convince you. Tell me how we would prove you wrong and if you can't your just full of it and puffing out your chest - Cal

[@skullinski2957]

@WhatareyouPaintingnow I'm not trying to be rude or puff out my chest, just simply saying what I think based off what I seen and heard. Nothing wrong if she knows the lore. You guys have been doing this for a while, and I'm sure she's done research on her own time because she seems really interested. I just feel like the whole she doesn't know anything is a charade at this point tbh

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Yes she does research on the pictures. She will look up styles and such I show her a series of images and then she researches the styles surrounding them. She is a graphic designer, that is her field of expertise and you just called us dishonest, infact you called us liars and you're not puffing you're chest out? Don't go to the country area, you don't know how insulting you are and will get into trouble. Also you didn't answer the question so I believe you are dishonest and not to be respected - Cal

[@gammothdraws]

37:59 "I AM SUPREME!!!" - Balthazar Gelt, Warhammer Fantasy/Total War Warhammer Series

[@Jfk2Mr]

And then he scams a merchant captain for a thrill of it?

[@gammothdraws]

@@Jfk2Mr Ah yes, Balthazaar Gelt, the BANE OF ULTRAMAR.!!!! . . yes, then he does that

[@frankiedafish77]

Shared for the angel!

[@WhatareyouPaintingnow]

Thank you so much 😊 I am glad you made it all the way - Cal