Designing a Super-Realistic Gen 4.5 SUPERFIGHTER in Flyout!

Building an advanced gen 4.5 fighter, the MF-21 Eclipse.
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Outline drawing thanks to NYTROL!!!
Montage music made by Alexandros Bakarozos

[@tonsofguns8455]

Now that I own Flyout I can really appreciate how difficult these aircraft are to build. Everything I’ve built so far looks like a soggy Dorito

[@fazin85]

#relatable

[@Amexicantortilla]

Make it a dry Dorito then.

[@lord_kinbote3920]

Is that like a soggy biscuit?

[@saienide9301]

I prefer a crunchy dorito with birth defects myself

[@gripen777]

Can't even run it, it crashes my graphics drivers every time I spawn a second time

[@B_e_a_n_45]

These uploads are getting more rare, but I think the upgrade in detail is sooo worth it.

[@SaiTaX_the_Chile_boi]

agree.

[@tevin4006]

Man, I love how you combine the best aspects of two 4+ gen aircraft and combine them to make them look sleek as hell. It's like a Gripen and a F-15 had a kid. I'm even impressed you went with the delta wing configuration, nice!

[@SamuelTanZhaoYang]

Reminds me of j20 too

[@Cythil]

There is also a similarity to the Mikoyan Project 1.44. Though the intakes are more like the F-15

[@Fanboy_of_everything]

Imagine if we gave the tomcat the F-15EX treatment….. All of the terrorists would piss and shit themselves endlessly

[@ralflandsknecht6383]

its basically a f15 stol

[@callumbailey43]

We need Messier to make some sort of tutorial vid for Flyout. He's easily the best at the game with the biggest following (I believe) and his builds are always awesome! Would be so cool to learn how to make a fighter like this in Flyout step by step!

[@fqeagles21]

Is he One of the developer or not?

[@lemonwater9687]

@@fqeagles21 No, dev is a one man team (Stone) - making the progress all the more impressive

[@fqeagles21]

@@lemonwater9687 ok thanks

[@scheldon2244]

Holy crap this is beastly. As an Aerospace engineering student, this makes me a mix of excited and nervous to learn this kind of art. You make this all look too easy for comfort! 😂😂😂

[@jdreyes3745]

Aerospace Engineering graduate here (May 2023). Something like this would have been a *major* boon for us when we were going through both Aircraft and Spacecraft Design, both for learning stuff as well as for fun.

[@velo2221]

My first fighter jet I made in flyout pulled 30+ G's and is responsible for my test pilots death💀💀💀

[@Jack-cm9ye]

Uh oh

[@DevteamSUBLIM3]

It's the Mig 1.44 revamped! Love it!

[@Meoiswa]

This craft is insane, not just the design and level of detail you put into it, but its performance, if real, would make an F-22 blush. Over 22 deg/s sustained w/o thrust vectoring is nuts, a real pilot slushie machine!

[@myusername3689]

The F-16 apparently has instances of going 24 deg/s although that is clean and with less fuel at 9G.

[@luminary69revision2]

I never realized how little I understood aerodynamics until I got Flyout I learn fast and have done some 3d modeling before so I got the hang of the basic controls pretty quickly and am pretty okay at the basic design but only after getting Flyout and not being able to figure out what to even do to get something to consistently fly straight did the extent of my cluelessness hit me also I have a whole new level of appreciation for the camera work you do for the montages and stuff, it’s phenomenal that you get the footage you do with the flyby camera

[@anirudhdiwakar987]

Im almost in the same boat, how are you going about learning more about aerodynamics?

[@PSS_VENOM666]

This man reinvented the F-15EX lol. Good job as always.

[@llamallamalo699]

bros gonna have the air force and the navy knocking on his front door if he keeps up these awesome designs!!

[@crazycaptionguy549]

Incredible build. I would love to see you make a fancy heavy ground attack jet like an A-10 or SU-25, I know you have made some ground attackers in the past but you have vastly improved since then

[@GimmeDaBacon]

Dude….. This is sick. It’s already super maneuverable I can only imagine the insane turns it could do if it did have thrust vectoring.

[@WildmanTrading]

Honestly that would just be more weight.

[@rahko3736]

It looks like the transformer Starscream and it looks like it could be the new "hero" plane for a new Ace Combat. Sick plane, man. The fact that it's at least functional in-game is pretty cool too, i wonder how wild this would work in RC form or full size.

[@matthewtoogood2380]

I don’t think I’ve seen a more beautiful aircraft in my life. I just can’t stop grinning from excitement and pure amazement from looking at the aircraft. Keep up the good work M82

[@RadiantCataclysm]

This is absolutely incredible, even though you aren't able to keep up with your previous upload rate (for now maybe?), the quality of the videos and planes themselves has increased dramatically, even the new cuts makes your videos look much cleaner than before. Thank you for creating these incredible planes, and uploading them to KZbin, and putting so much time into editing these videos for your fan's enjoyment. (plus, your music choices are great (especially the ending montage music))

[@AfterOblivion]

I love the more detailed vids and edits now Messier, this is some of the highest quality content on KZbin now! Keep it up

[@velo2221]

Looks like a J-20 and an F-15 had a child

[@zchen27]

The J-9-VI basically. One of the completely cracked projects during the Great Leap Forward that's basically a non-stealth J-20 built with 70s/80s aviation tech and have a mission profile close to the MiG-31.

[@judet2992]

Bro managed to make a PW LMAOA limiter in flyout💀 Awesome build!

[@Ananas_boyy]

Man, the government should hire him!

[@leandllima]

Dude! That interior is a work of art!

[@Duvstep910]

how did you build the interior and design blueprints? edit: could you do a tutorial on flyout one day? (like designing aircraft and engines and such)

[@TK-5516]

Bro idk how but I got so exited seeing M82 uploaded

[@Taisto-Perkele]

You know what this thing reminds me of? The super-tech Raptor from *_Raptor: Call of the Shadows_* from 1994. Forward canards, fast and agile, multirole, a metric f*ckton of firepower which includes dual autocannons. Even the name is similar to the Twin Laser (CAL-10 Eclipse) powerup. The only things missing are VTOL capability and the paintjob.

[@tiracorrendo1]

i swear you have been my fav youtuber for like a year now

[@Vjeko558]

Absolutely amazing! just...wow!

[@jacksonmoen1111]

Wow! Super awesome, keep up the good work! I know carriers don’t exist in Flyout (I think) but it’d like to see you try to make a carrier-based air-to-air dogfighter in the future! I always look forward to your uploads, they make my day.

[@Khaos82_]

Great work, and I love the aircraft you've done thus far. I put in just short of 40 hours in the game thus far, and I can't get enough. I got my second jet airborne last night. She is a little nutty to handle, but I look at it as a step closer to making a great aircraft.

[@roaling2]

Let's go, so glad you're back!

[@Aris-tc9qy]

i genuinely have no clue how you make things like this. its so difficult. you are a wizard.

[@memoryinfinity694]

simply, yes, perfection

[@lancelott9171]

Little fun fact about squawking 1200, but it’s not JUST for civilian aircraft but military aircraft as well, so a fighter squawking 1200 is actually pretty normal if they’re doing VFR pattern work -military ATC

[@shadowpaars]

love ur vids, take your time no pressure

[@susy411]

Man messier uploads went from common to epic level

[@40uldierb0Y]

The details are awesome, even knowing it's not needed. If i could build like this in flyout I'd do the same, and the final showcase was awesome.

[@BestOfSound99]

Awesome built, not so long ago your chatGPT video got randomly recommended to me. And at this point I think this is just something you want to attach to your lockeed martin application with the detail you put into your builts! Haha.

[@aLbInO-dk7m]

Once again an amazing vid

[@iancrowder]

Love to hear your voice again, your content is amazing!

[@francoscicolone9534]

Great video, i love the plane its like a modernised idea of a mig 1.44. I'd like to see a similar aproach but like the jf17 or j10 with dsi intakes

[@EldestTester231]

You should make the first canonical jet fighter in the prop-punk universe

[@Ksescel]

Yes

[@oddy1637]

Bruh that is insane!

[@owenschulz9504]

I would like to see leading edge slats or a “smart/living” wing like you can see on planes like the f/a-18 where the chord of the wing increases proportionally to the aoa of the plane

[@remain_]

Beautiful looking plane. Seems like it would be sexy to fly

[@thefinalsurvivur6161]

This is... beautiful.

[@Vacxt]

Ofc I got a notification that this vid came out when I have alr started watching it.

[@aLbInO-dk7m]

Same lol

[@makararamoabi6857]

You are a genius, I hope I can study and become as knowledgeable as you one day

[@fazin85]

beautiful!

[@OmegablueWolf]

It has some real Ace Combat Vibes and i love it.

[@Cythil]

An excellent looking plane. And just that sort of style I love. Do like my canard fighters.

[@xFlowXxX]

Very nice mix between F-15E and Rafale

[@Arnor2207]

Perfect 4.5 Designs what is essentially a rafale

[@viktornicht260]

outstanding content

[@willowehrich6207]

I like this one a lot!! I might have to make an rc version.

[@michasowik2438]

Great one! It reminds me game Raptor: Call of Shadows

[@Power5]

First flight of the nighthawk was 1981. We have been doing stealth design since probably the mid 70s when Have Blue project kicked off at DARPA.

[@soundknight]

It takes 10~15 years to develop an engine, by then you’ll need to redesign this aircraft.

[@hadrosaur1194]

Messier is so good at making planes I wouldnt be surprised if he gets a job for military aircraft design one day

[@iwyrilja]

It would be so insanely cool if they managed to make a online pvp mode in the future where players fight with fighter jets they have built with a fixed budget. A bunch of advanced electronics would make your aircraft heavier and more expensive meaning manoeuvrability would be worse and heavier beefier gear would be needed, plus there would be less money over for weapons, engines and fuel.

[@ThomasHendrickson]

It’d be nice to have a more sandbox/arcade mode where restrictions are more relaxed or non existent to have a more exotic fighter landscape

[@itsdokko2990]

Nothing short of a great bird, Messier! BTW, would you consider making some sort of quick tutorial on jet engine design? Learning from wikipedia is very fun to me, but there are some variables in Flyout i don't quite get. so yeah, i'd be awesome bro

[@aLbInO-dk7m]

I CANNNNNNT WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS I’m getting flyout and it look sooo COOL!

[@FriendChicken]

You know what your creation reminds me of? MiG 1.44. it has some resemblance to it. Awesome build! I Like it!

[@ChordRunner]

That's cool!

[@1Sacfi]

Hey really loved the video and was wondering if you knew about the Zveno carrier and what a modern similar concept might look like. Especially with your concept of lower cost competitive fighter jet, if they themselves don't need long capacity flight capabilities you might be able to cut even more cost and still stay competitive.

[@DylanDavidVindasLopez]

nice one! i whould add some optional modules like an electronic warfare suite and 2D thrust vectoring.

[@Verminator4]

I figured you'd be back to show us all how it's done sooner or later. Now that I actually have my hands on the game it's my goal to make aircraft that are in the same ballpark as this. Loooooong way to go on that front though lol

[@miguelribeiro3103]

Kinda looks like the mig 1.44. Great video as allways

[@-Hari-03]

messi upload poggers champion

[@DefaultProphet]

MIG 1.44 Eagle III looking hot

[@MacMeaties]

Would be cool to see you do a civilian recreational aircraft thats sole purpose is "it's fun to fly".

[@Markopearson47]

He created a dassault raffel, f15, mig 24 foxbat and eurofighter typhoon

[@TomP-148]

My hat goes off to you man. I'm still on my first build haha

[@Camilo_Z]

My first build cobra'd on takeoff lol

[@phoenixtalon100]

24:58 ["I want to understand the enemy."]

[@gustiwidyanta5492]

like the MiG 1.44-esque design!

[@rhodie33]

Great video, I wonder if a Serpentine intake would work, with it's ability to hide the turbine blades from the engine for greater stealth.

[@ofir123456789o]

I bought flyout to support the developer, hopefully he can push the game even further with all that budget

[@k_the_v]

Haaaa! Avro Arrow notches once again! 🤘

[@acematthew01]

Reminds me of an XFA-24a Apalis but an update to it.

[@Mayflower-Yev]

Would love to see if it’s possible to port this into DSC or something, that’d be a pretty interesting matchup. Of course it’ll probably take a couple of months of non-stop coding and modeling and testing and what-not, but it would be interesting nonetheless. Otherwise, good work, always loved these kind of videos and this is definitely one of the best ones out there!

[@Saxysnek-mw3of]

Like beamng and automation

[@ashwinalagiri-rajan1180]

Modern aircraft design has practically remained unchanged for the past 20 years. I don't know what you're talking about man.

[@Gang_Stalker_Shadow_Gov]

the Motherfucking-21 Eclipse is badass

[@calebmorse3038]

Do you think you could an electronic warfare plane in the future? I don't know about you but I adored the ea6b Prowler, I think it was an iconic match of looks and role for a jet. And although its getting replaced by the Growler which is a difficult to hate airframe, I'd love to see something that fits in that niche in a 4th or 5th gen world.

[@Shoosh-fv6gy]

Can you make a short video on how you set up the landing gear doors so they don't clip when they retract and deploy? I can't figure it out for the life of me.

[@aLbInO-dk7m]

Hi messier!

[@hornetplayer7701]

This think is like the size of a city block!

[@Lucassainte-rose]

Next you should build a hypersonic fighter or interceptor using the ramjet engines instead of regular jet engines

[@GsaSteve]

I don’t even know half of what he’s saying (im 6:30 in the video) and I absolutely love it.

[@horizon1043]

It looks a bit F-15 like and is very cool can’t wait for the next upload

[@nricolas360]

So you basically made your own version of the Rafale 😳

[@julianjames2899]

"Would you describe its dogfighting as a rate fighter or a radius fighter?" "Yes"

[@tiationaearesarutonasothar5289]

@messier82ac Noting your Designation from the 1962 MDS System your "MF-21 Eclipse" would be a Mine Countermeasure Fighter.

[@Jshrgs]

MOPCKOEDNISHE was one of the best modders in simpleplanes. Now, he's in Flyout

[@JustADuck66]

Just become a rocket scientist already.

[@SomeonessChannel]

There is a fundamental design error that most people seem to do when designing fighter jets, including this one. Basically a "straight rocket tube" with a canopy and wings attached to it. Take the schematics of any 4th gen fighter for example and look at its profile. They are always either slightly curved (F-16), or more "banana curved" (SU-35).

[@egoalter1276]

Tuening the fuselage onto an assymeteic aerofoil improves effective AoA at any given pitch, and slightly improves high alpha manouverability, but increases drag. Straight designs are perfectly viable, and you see more of them.

[@SomeonessChannel]

Can you give me some examples of 4th gen fighters with "straight tube fuselage" shapes?@@egoalter1276

[@Myportie]

It's like a Gripen that bulked up.

[@90lancaster]

Is the Vortex effect powerful enough to be used to direct the planes control & movement ? if the vortex generating surface could be closed over or reversed would that be useful ? Or just extremely dangerous ? Just something I was wondering about in case creating vortexes happened to be powerful enough to work in conjuntion with the control surfaces by changing their shape & or angle. even if it was even something as simple as helping get out of a flat spin.

[@TomP-148]

You should upload a video of you doing a build at normal speed. And show "the way" A Lot of the default's aren't really customizable. Example the intakes you can make the back part a hole. How you're able to form the wings. Etc

[@Edgeye]

Cool

[@lemanbest7356]

Video ist very gut

[@eventhrondsen]

Is there any way we could get access to the weapons pack you're using in this video? and could you do a guidance video on fbw, with unstable aircraft? love the vids.

[@mbg4681]

I miss the live narrated flights. I know they're probably more work, but I hope they aren't gone for good! Hard to substitute unfiltered insights sometimes.