How I Built the FASTEST Spy Plane That CAN'T BE SEEN! - |FLYOUT|

Building a Hypersonic Recon Aircraft, the R-84 Pegasus
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[@RileyLittle]

Ah yes, Messier once again brings this incredible game to the forefront of my mind, searing random plane facts and specs into my brain cells for my family and friends to indulge in. Thank you for the stellar content. Fly high.

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

🚨🚨🚨DO NOT FLY WHILE HIGH 🚨🚨🚨 you will crash!!!

[@kycrend]

​@@Meyer-gp7nq lol

[@somerando1067]

​@@Meyer-gp7nqyeah, sure, but it's fun :3

[@droidbetter231]

@@Meyer-gp7nqlmfao

[@cabriskus4700]

@@Meyer-gp7nqPretty stoned this morning flying around on Microsoft 2020. Doing okay if I must say so myself.

[@kitkit1143]

im starting to believe that this dude work for lockheed...

[@oriolguerrero1702]

As a material science engineer, i loved this episode. There's so many weird shit you can do with the lesser know elements of the periodic table, not only heat absortion, just look up what your liquid crystal displays are made out of and be amazed, same as the Sidewinder's lenses. Great bird btw.

[@ryanmilne5321]

I’m studying materials engineering right now, any advice

[@mk6315]

@@ryanmilne5321 write down material properties you find for testing in unorthodox ways

[@auto_revolt]

He used a material with a high thermal conductivity for the leading edges. My first though was about the SR71 using titanium for the leading edges, titanium has a very bad thermal conductivity meaning more heat stays in the leading edges rather than dissipating elsewhere. My second thought was about thermal expansion of these different materials, leading to stress build-ups if not accounted for... Any thoughts?

[@oriolguerrero1702]

@@ryanmilne5321 I cant say for other countries, but here in spain is trully SPain without the S. Dont try memorizing everything, try understanding the fundamentals and go from there. Youve got this man.

[@oriolguerrero1702]

@@auto_revolt Youve got it yeah, pieces in the aeronautics industry (fuselage, empinage and fuel tanks mostly) are designed with very low error tolerances and for them to accomodate to their enviroment, as you say in the leading edges, heat. The SR71 used its own fuselage and deforming parts as fuel tanks which would seal up when heated up due to thermal expansion. This is why fuselage parts are mostly bolted down instead of welded, even if you increase the weight with the bolts and rivets, its the only way to make sure they meet the working requirements. You are on the right track hahaha

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

Here's an interesting bit about the SR-71: While on the ground, the SR-71 leaks fuel like a sieve. This is because the fuel pipes are designed to expand in flight, because you can't make them seal properly on the ground without thermal expansion causing the entire piping to self-destruct.

[@crispy23c]

Special fuel additives were designed to keep the leaky fuel from catching fire, and are used in commercial airline fuels today. The SR-71 was then re-fueled after takeoff to maximize range. For its time, it was a fantastic aircraft- and still amazes me today!

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

The SR-71 was powered by two Pratt & Whitney J58 (company designation JT11D-20) axial-flow turboramjet engines. The J58 was a considerable innovation of the era, capable of producing a static thrust of 32,500 lbf (145 kN). The engine was most efficient around Mach 3.2, the Blackbird's typical cruising speed.

[@soupcangaming662]

Now I'm wondering if he considered that.

[@jakobusswart1376]

​@@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol Not to necro but technically the engine itself kicks off a steep curve that goes on near infinitely past supersonic and could basically run on fumes, if the engine itself melting wasn't the limiting factor, or theorized to be(Yes SR 71 got speed limited for fears of melting its engines)... but since no j58 ever melted, well never know its true limit

[@aerobyrdable]

@@jakobusswart1376 would love a source for this one

[@Wizard_Pepsi]

This is some top tier military technology. The research and creativity of this project is incredibly impressive

[@zuthalsoraniz6764]

Another couple of issues with spy satellites, since they are generally placed in low orbits (to get the sharpest image possible), and those orbits are fairly easy to track and predict: 1) The enemy can at least in principle know days in advance when a particular spy satellite will overfly a given site and move assets or disguise them appropriately. Mitigating this would require a very dense spysat network, which as you said would be very expensive. On the other hand, a high-speed stealth recon aircraft gives much less warning time. 2) In a shooting war between superpowers, spy satellite networks (as well as satellite communication and navigation networks) would probably be in short order destroyed by ASAT weapons, due to having very limited evasive and defensive capability. Hypersonic recon aircraft, with bases far behind the front lines and speed and altitude to challenge even modern SAMs, would be much harder to prevent from operating.

[@elementalgolem5498]

Unfortunately they fly over every 90 minutes. Not every few days. Hence photos posted by the us of Russian airbases used to attack Ukraine with a 20 minute spacing. Because well they got more than one. And the US already has every part of the globe covered. GPS has that too

[@zuthalsoraniz6764]

@@elementalgolem5498 If you have a single spy satellite each in a lot of orbital planes, you can get an overflight every 90 minutes, yes - even more frequently if you have multiple per orbital plane. But for a single satellite in a low polar orbit of ~90 minutes, you only get one overflight of a specific location each day (if the orbital period is exactly 1/16 of a sidereal day), or potentially even periods of no coverage at all. That's where the "you need lots of spy satellites and that gets expensive" part comes in. The US can afford that expense.

[@jameson1239]

The problem with ASAT weapons is the debris generated will most likely take down other satellites near by potentially even friendly ones I very much doubt they would be used much because of that

[@ElRamaxx]

The community NEEDS a guide / turorials series from you. 10 out of 10 video again

[@savagehobo8427]

Yes please i got the game but i dont know anything about it lmao

[@beimanuel942]

​@@savagehobo8427 STEP 1: learn blender STEP 2: become an avgeek and earn a phd in aerodynamica STEP 3: enjoy

[@Ezthereals]

"human disintegration isn't very survivable" Well that's my Christmas ruined

[@roaling2]

This needs to be pinned

[@TheEvil909295]

I love your planes and I think this one, which roughly represents an SR 72, is a masterpiece. I hope there will be a Steam Workshop soon. So that everyone can enjoy your aircraft.

[@joyhoward6105]

The fact that the moon is such a high quality texture and that the curvature of the earth is a thing implies (to me at least) that you will be able to go to space in a later version of this game

[@gagedilley5238]

It would be weird for a game solely about aircraft to not properly model their planet at high altitude and at least model low space.

[@UnreasonablyIrrelevant-gv8xx]

(22:50) "As it turns out, human disentigration isn't very survivable" - Dr. Messier, 2024 (also, this plane is awsome!! I'd like to see a plane build just to go as fast as humanly possible whilst staying within the exosphere)

[@EhmedCousCous]

I love that you started explaining these concepts more👍🏼

[@Griffins998]

Watching this video reminds me a lot about the darkstar in top gun maverick. They really nailed the design of a sleek, high speed jet, props to the team. And to messier for another great video.

[@AnthroAerospace]

Great video! would love to see you do another of those high detailed designes but with a 3rd gen fighter!

[@enzohumeau8864]

5:04 LOOOK AAAAT THIIIS GRAAAAPH

[@UnitSe7en]

"You were speeding, sir." _"How do you know that?"_ "I saw your speed on the RADAR, sir." _"I bought this car from the Air Force - You can't see it on RADAR!"_

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

I know a guy at my church who used to fly the Blackburd, U2, and F4 over “not Russia” (he can’t legally say where)

[@eekee6034]

My mind immediately went to, "Does 'not Russia' include the Soviet Union?" ;) (I'm not asking; some secrets are best left covered; I just wanted to make the joke.)

[@Duvstep910]

how you design stuff like this is beyond me edit: what is your educational background and is ths game some fever dream for you express your interests because I'm all for it as someone who wants to get into aviation/ loves any and all things flight

[@ScottGroome]

If you're mad keen on aviation and all things flight, aerospace engineering is the path to take if you really want to get into it. It's definitely not as intimidating as you'd think to get into and there are a lot of bridging courses that can help get you up to speed on any topics you don't know. If you're not at that point yet, RC plane clubs or rocket clubs are a really good place to be. In both planes and rockets, you have a huge range of skills and abilities from people making rockets out of cardboard and glue and passive planes from foam, to full multi stage rockets with full avionics suites and high speed planes with advanced electronics.

[@jasoncrabtree976]

I still find it insane how fast aviation progressed. The transition from WWI biplanes made from cloth and wood to the SR-71 taking a few decades is wild

[@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740]

We went from no planes to the actual fucking *moon* in 66 years

[@michaeleler2039]

@@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740 It’s a pity that there will be no more such progress, because the competitor in the form of the USSR collapsed ._.

[@karlkinnard9932]

@@michaeleler2039 It's all private sector now. Like Space X. though there are countries competing for moon landings now it seems. The space race is back! it's just different and not fueled by war this time. The only good thing about war fueled tech, is that it generally comes along faster and with greater budgets. Everything else about it is not preferable, because war is hell.

[@SpartanJey1219]

Love the use of the F-15 engine start up at 24:43 great video overall!

[@avirajdastidar7691]

Was actually reading a book on the Blackbird, one interesting thing they found during Desert Storm that satellites have major gaps in coverage due to the nature of their orbits, meaning that on-demand, wide-area, synoptic coverage is difficult to obtain. Schwarzkopf himself said that having an aircraft like the blackbird would have been a huge advantage during the Gulf War, intelligence wise.

[@-spook-2992]

I am always amazed by these videos. Messier would probably really like to build ships (and modules) in Children of a Dead Earth...

[@ComfortsSpecter]

“Big Brother on The Clock.” I Just Love The Dream of Cruising around The World at Mach 5+ So Soothing and Freedomous Go Anywhere, Do Anything The Entire World Is Easily Traversable The Comfort Of Man Know’s No Bounds 0:40 False Fastest Mass Produced Active Military Air Jet Plane, ETC

[@vendetta1093]

Just wanna say, I love seeing people passionate about different things go all out on their projects and going above and beyond just "Making it work" so to speak. It's the little details that were completely and totally unnecessary that really make it so lovable. The shotguns, the survival kit, making the cockpit an escape vehicle. all of the technical details about engine specifications and issues encountered as well as their solutions. Basically making this thing to specification as though you're literally trying to sell it to the pentagon is just so enjoyable. Keep up the great work.

[@centra_fo]

Some more automation would be neat. They just released a major update too.

[@christopherbernhardt]

Dude your ability to add the details always amazes me

[@nathancroud3730]

“As it turns out, human disintegration is not very survivable” Learn something new every day

[@malusignatius]

That's the prettiest plane I've never seen.

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

That's when the SR-87 "Maior Merula" comes in, though slower and more expensive, it can take higher quality maps, it even works for topography, and more, it goes higher than the R-84, as if the multipurpose MK-2000 Camera isn't anymore of a "fuck off", the altitude would be more of a "fuck off"

[@eddiesnider1745]

looks a tad like the SR-72

[@ToiletNoodletheFish]

Great video! I've noticed the editing has definitely improved. Nice job 👍

[@elcrapulento4278]

This is by far My favorite plane of yours, great job and great video!!!

[@Zulu4impi]

Incredibly well thought out, from fuel solution to Navi lighting. 👏👽👍

[@ArmyLemonBoi]

You've inspired me to start making aircraft in flyout. You're truly one of the few best designers in Flyout

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

However, I do wanna point out a drawback in the engine layout, when you lay the engines out in that layout, it'll give you 8 engines in total, its extremely complex, inefficient, and thus, very expensive, while using the combination of a turbojet and a Ramjet is more simple, and its what we did for the SR-71 Blackbird,

[@DrakyHRT]

You from skunkworks ?

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

​@@DrakyHRT I just know that info myself, after all, I have known of Supersonic Aircraft like the Lockheed Martin SR-71 Blackbird

[@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol]

​@@DrakyHRT So no, I'm NOT from Skunkworks

[@howardxu8050]

I think it is still the limitation of flyout, can’t really do fancy combined engine designs

[@jakobusswart1376]

Wait, wasn't the SR 71 the plane that accidentally gave proof of the theoretical Ram jet, ie it was more a coincidence than actual design...since you know, no ram jet has been flying in any service since

[@bigdogben]

Wow this game looks pretty awesome. I'm looking into this, this is sick!

[@JarboeGaming]

Excellent video, you inspired me to try Flyout myself. You are the GOAT.

[@mitchellvandongen1732]

Thank you so much messier, I have learnt so much from your videos, and you were also the way I found out about flyout, the game of my dreams. Thank You!

[@grayghost0513]

Personally Messier this is the best video yet. Just facts tossed in that aren't overwhelming but interesting. Felt like a good science teacher giving a lesson that actually gets the class LOL.

[@Joker-em4yb]

Another awesome video, keep up the good work!

[@gafrers]

Great work. Detailed and informative. 👍👍 Mach 5 with a pointy nose would be absurd, but stealth is stealth. I just keep thinking of the X15's cannonball front nose/cone

[@xbuildksp]

i just bought this game but i have no idea how to make a good-looking craft. youre helping me a lot, i subbed now 😄

[@Milchreismitschoko2]

Thanks for the great content! I’m keen on that other projects.

[@Its-Just-Zip]

Contrary to a lot of people interested in this area but not actively working on it, I don't actually think that any in production hypersonic aircraft are going to make use of plasma shaping in an attempt to minimize radar cross-section because any benefits you gain from plasma shaping is going to be at the cost of quite literally looking like a new sun to anything with even a primitive IRST sensor. This thing would likely be trackable from orbit by even just weather satellites. Also with as small of a drag coefficient as this thing should have any plasma generated from impaction with the air is going to be pretty minimal because unlike the space shuttle you don't have a massive forward cross section to impart all of that energy into the air. So it's going to be a relatively small amount of plasma if any at all and it's likely just going to balloon your IR signature in exchange for a minor reduction on an already incredibly small radar cross-section. So I suspect a hypothetical successor to the SR-71 is probably going to look at minimizing plasma generation. It might still fly with a cesium doped fuel for generating plasma to help shield its back end because at afterburner that's already going to look like a star to something with an infrared sensor. So you're not really losing anything there. But you probably want to keep the plasma away from your front end so you don't give an IR seeker a really easy time locking you from a frontal aspect which is about the only way it's going to catch you.

[@pnutbtur17]

Omg, so hyped for the film! It reminds me of my roblox aviation content a lot. Can't wait!

[@paxxweidert5408]

Love the video! The montage is very reminiscent of the darkstar sequence in Top Gun Maverick!

[@jonathanmabardy]

Lmao I tried to build a stealth fighter one time and it said it had a cross section of 5000 square miles

[@ihavewaited90daystochangem51]

Reverse stealth, the Enemy can't be expecting a lone fighter jet when the radars pick up a city flying at them

[@zaflowgalactic]

Excellent craft! I would love to see the next video, and as for game suggestions, I'd really like to see how you play Space Engineers. It's my favorite game, and you can make ridiculous creations, as well as play in multiplayer servers. It's aerodynamics mod is not nearly as accurate, but you might like the interesting mechanics and logic automation for controlling your space ships. Anyway, Keep up the astounding creative content!

[@dougroberts3840]

Messier 82 makes some pretty cool looking aircraft, would like to see him do a stealth bomber. Thanks for the video.

[@obama9862]

It’s absolutely crazy that WW1 and the SR-71 are only 50 years apart…

[@bohba13]

The issue with plasma stealth is that Phased Array Radars penetrate that shit like 50bmg through level 1 plate.

[@karadiina3257]

I mean if you can have it with little to no downsides I wouldn't call it an issue. Even if it's effective rarely it's still a "layer" but yeah wouldn't compromise to have it

[@bohba13]

@@karadiina3257 fair enough.

[@diniza]

Nice plane and video as always

[@mateussousa3639]

We have leaks of classified tanks and I think we're about to have some leaks of planes. Amazing content, my head is now heated by the knowledge presented here. Thank you, bro.

[@Thebootlegengineer]

23:05 An ejection at Mack 5 (3,836 mph or 6173 kph) would feel like being fired out of one the USS Wisconsins 16 inch guns into a brick wall you would experience 10 g’s before you die in a theatrical situation where you can’t die you would experience a rough maximum estimate of about 50 g’s and then pass out due to a severe lack of oxygen being 100,000 ft or 30480 meters in the dam air falling at a speed of 650 mph or 1,046 kph (estimated) towards the dam earth so an ejection pod is required just to survive the first few minutes

[@CallMeMark_]

Messier! If you ever need more VA's for videos I'd be happy to help, I've done voices for similar videos! But damn this aircraft looks sweet as always

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

Funny story about the sr-71, IIRC it originally had 2 wheels on the landing gear however they kept failing when landing so unsure of what to do they went to a landing gear expert and asked what they should do. The expert said to add more wheel, so now the sr-71 has 3 wheels per gear. Edit: other fun facts about the bird. It carried 16 shots of triethylborane since the fuel that it used jp-7 was so stable pilots used to extinguish their cigarettes in it. It's cameras were powerful enough to read a license plate from its altitude of fl800. It had over 800 missiles fired at it and was never it. The titanium used to build it was bought from the U.S.S.R through shell companies.

[@tc2142]

What a beautiful aircraft! I wish I knew what that cinematic ending music was!

[@LTW_L3NN_1344]

We dont need scholl because we have this guy

[@franektaylor1389]

Always waiting for some more videos from you!

[@larularae2106]

Unironically obsessed with hypersonic aircraft designs

[@achakwolf2446]

Looks really great

[@jozomrkva]

How did you do that smooth paint? Rivets (default one) is kinda odd. But great video. By the way, that heating effect was real or post production?

[@urbankittycat]

AWESOME DAY WHEN MESSIER UPLOADS

[@eekee6034]

"The drag [...] keeps going up into orbit." As a space-sim player with a taste for spaceplanes, I appreciate this line. :)

[@BestOfSound99]

I wonder if we ever get a video series that explains different kinds of aircraft shapes and features. I would love something like that! And maybe some Flyout tutorials. I did buy it on release but haven't done much with it yet.

[@kinocorner976]

Lockheed: “So, you want a job?”

[@RadiantCataclysm]

Aaaaaaah! Noooooo! He said the C word! Lol. But Messier, great job on this aircraft, and on the montage, I'll be anticipating that short film no matter how long it takes. I would love to see you play war thunder sometime too. Love your chanel!

[@GamingGremlin21]

Remember lumpy vertices messier they never forget or leave

[@concordegaming5037]

The R-22 looks so cool, and seems like a mix of the SR-72 Darkstar II from Top Gun: Maverick and the SR-91 Aurora from the Project Aurora conspiracy (that turned out to actually be the B-2 Spirit).

[@deltacx1059]

1:24 the biggest benefit of a aircraft would be resolution and seeing under coverings.

[@TurnAGundam]

Out of curiosity, is there any place I can request aircraft from pop culture being made in this game, or no? *EDIT* NVM, I found the place I was looking for. 😊

[@nyafu_uwu]

its called... making it yourself

[@afilleduptaco]

@@nyafu_uwu damn lmao. I will admit, it is fucking hard to make planes in Flyout, messier makes it look too easy.

[@AmauryChihuahua]

Hey dude, I know chances are, you aint seeing this but I just wanted to say: Thank you, you got me into this game and I actually really like it

[@carltonleboss]

Very cool design.

[@Jack-xs2ki]

I like your funny words, Magic Man!

[@kaiperdaens7670]

Military people watching this video and others from Messier.

[@death13a]

Looking forward to the Movie! 😊😊😊❤😊

[@TheERLCcop]

Man, the Air Force should hire you!

[@pilot2076]

I need more of messier science, bros teaching me more than any teacher has.

[@Ioquacks]

Awesome! Loved this video!!

[@bullie86]

I was looking for some playthrough of flightsim, or maybe even dcs. But nooooo KZbin decided to give me this encyclopedia of a dude. Holy shit 😮

[@fatboy_slippy]

Finally going back to farfetched aircraft. Yay! Messier plz don't forget not to take your meds.

[@markpeene4757]

Love this bird, easily best build so far. Could you please make a yf-23 inspired fighter

[@eduardostapenko6808]

13:27 nah, that's too fast, it's 1.8km/s so it would disapear over horison (5km) faster than i'l hear it it would be like: *shockwave* -wtf was that?!

[@lightspeedvictory]

A major weakness with hypersonic aircraft and the like is their massive heat signatures. Sure the plasma will easily hide the aircraft from radar but good luck hiding all that heat from IRST sensors. As a side note, I seem to recall reading in Aviation Week &Space Technology magazine that the sweet spot for hypersonics, be they missiles or aircraft, was around Mach 7. Not so fast that you require expensive, exotic materials along with ridiculously powerful, complex and expensive engines but not so slow that you’re vulnerable to interception (at least with known current and upcoming technology)

[@user-wt3ij7bk1w]

I love that falcon engine and its so cool btw it was in the darkstar in top gun Maverick

[@WesternEagle467]

This man teaches me more than aeronautics videos for engineers that aren’t games

[@Rudraiya]

As a simpleplanes player I can't wait to try out this game 👌

[@ZZPxFTW]

The dual engine layout to get the ramjet to its minimum “starting” speed reminds me of the Nord 1500 Griffon. Such a cool plane

[@catscotish]

Can we do some sort of colab where i moudle one of your air craft in blender amd make an animation or smt

[@fazin85]

another amazing aircraft

[@3.6Turbskis]

messier flies high yet again, figuratively and Literally

[@SeaHarrierFRS.1]

I wanted to see a cool plane, and learnt physics. best way to say ‘you watched something educational’

[@lando2236]

I just got into flyout and holy Christ it’s KSP all over again

[@mangirishmadyar6619]

LOCKHEED MARTIN WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION

[@nis3764]

great craft

[@gekkegengis]

can you make a tutorial of how to make a plane in flyout? or do you have any recommendations for one?

[@TyinAlaska]

Multiroll is the future of air missions. This airframe would be much more inventive with a third seat for a weapons/EW/defensive weapons specialist.

[@nytrol2720]

Absolute banger of a video :D But Self criticism is in order. Atleast now I know what I have to do next time. More detail on the Blueprints.

[@fatboy_slippy]

Hey nytrol :D

[@nathanthanatos3743]

"Crossing the Atlantic at mach 5" would be a 1.5 hour flight from NYC to Paris, over 5800 miles. About the same as flying from NYC to Jacksonville, FL, on a regular airliner, a flight of 820 miles.

[@laurenclouse801]

Bro is teaching me more than my school is