Destiny Vs Alex Jones, Glenn Greenwald And Darren Beattie ft. Krassenstein Brothers | ZEROHEDGE

[@destiny]

Heated Debate w/ Rekieta Law ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKGwpJp3fKd0mqc Alex Jones Joins Panel To Debate Destiny ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKfCpnSdfKekeJYfeature=shared

[@TariqNasheed117]

Stop running from me Steven

[@hrknesslovesu]

@@TariqNasheed117 Stven would buck break you, tariq.

[@acadianalien]

@@TariqNasheed117 I'm just a white guy but I'm using my beautiful african girlfriend's phone right now. We're expecting beautiful twins in June. Did you like the debate?

[@jpdominator]

Luke warm debate with Rekieta… you were getting worked up while he was calmly explaining that which you were failing to understand.

[@kungfujoe2136]

alex was right

[@napalmsticks6494]

This was a good debate but it was a bit weird when Destiny brought a Palestinian child onto the panel and executed it in front of the audience.

[@milamberyt]

Alex Jones talked over the gunshot so I didn't even realize it happened

[@EE-jp5ev]

Wasn't that weird for me, I specifically donated to pay for the Palestinian child 's flight to the studio

[@PKPAPN]

I'm a 31 year-old attorney trying to make a family, and sometimes I feel like I might actually be a real adult. Then I read comments like this and they make me laugh every fucking time, and I realize that I'm still mentally a teenager. God damn it.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

apology for bad english where were u wen club penguin die i was at house eating dorito when phone ring "club penguin is kil" "no"

[@r.i.petika829]

Executed “it” is wild 💀

[@GulDukat479]

Inviting Alex Jones to a debate is like inviting Alex Jones to a debate.

[@ralphbennett6698]

Some folks refuse to hear facts so they act like liberal toddlers, aka destiny

[@scourge8097]

@@ralphbennett6698 LOL...so you just change the entire subject and scream over everyone? Destiny was actually able to stick to a coherent thought. Alex...not so much. WTF is he on by the way? It's something.

[@ollaitsrealgood]

🤣

[@Carolina-4JC]

@@scourge8097When Alex was confronted with his own under-oath testimony that in the media he plays a “character” and that his Sandy Hook claims were the result of “psychosis,” they absolutely fell apart. Glen was seething, Alex was coping-I thought they were about to stamp their feet and cry “no fair!” No one should take anything these guys say that _isn’t_ under oath seriously.

[@BKC808]

@@scourge8097that literally what destiny does🤣 someone presents facts… destiny : “wrong” with no evidence 🤣

[@mestariq3250]

Its so hilarious how the moderator is entirely ineffective throughout this debate, but randomly works up the courage to scream his lungs out every half hour before crawling back into his corner

[@jebusmilk]

leave ian alone tbf this debate would be impossible to moderate

[@Nazyairsengikar]

Grow up fools

[@oppre55]

@@jebusmilk no it would not lol, thats such a cuck answer. he just was not a good moderator, he didnt do nearly enough to stop alex jones rambling like an idiot over the top of everyone else not letting them speak. he had clear bias and was clout chasing

[@karlholde6901]

@@jebusmilk No it fucking wouldn't. The guy would simply have to do his job. "Alex, Destiny is responding to what Darren said. Let him finish then you get to respond." "Alex it sounds like you are moving on to a new point. Before you go into that, i need you to respond to what was just said." "Alex you have to stop screaming, you are way out of line." They guy is on a microphone, if he keeps misbehaving then he can simply be cut out. Moderation just requites that you have an actual backbone.

[@moonasha]

this wasn't even a debate, it was just people talking over each other. Both 'sides' refused to really address the other's points

[@FlyinEye]

OMG Destiny's level of patience sitting next to Alex is over 9000.

[@dirtabd]

I hope he got paid at least. I would have already left these losers with their dunce delusions. Of course theyre anti-school, theyve never read a book. That is the problem with society today, they think everything on the internet is true. While everyone who grew up with 56k to DSL lines already know 95% of the internet is bullshit.

[@dirtabd]

I hope he got paid at least. I would have already left these losers with their dunce delusions. Of course theyre anti-school, theyve never read a book. That is the problem with society today, they think everything on the internet is true. While everyone who grew up with 56k to DSL lines already know 95% of the internet is bullshit.

[@aughalough1]

Destiny the only intelligent man among the lot of them.

[@TinnyDee]

​aww cute. You have a boi crush. Andrew Wilson beat him so bad Destiny black listed him.😂

[@randal3122]

​@@aughalough1 hes intellectually dishonest. he just talks fast, and that fools dumb people into thinking he is smart. his arguments are absolutely ridiculous and dishonest

[@sek3ymisek3ymi]

man , i was a biden voter , but then alex jones started yelling very loudly and now.... im completely convinced whatever alex thinks has got to be true .

[@GKJusticar55]

Dude even the other Trumples were embarrassed by Alex.

[@taturay]

If you where a "Biden voter" you have no excuse and no hope 😂

[@taturay]

It was a insurrection "the media says"

[@EladKaminsky]

Fr. Also, the dude with the girl's name really put me off from the left

[@nathanielclaw2841]

you jest but thats literally every alex jones fan

[@Irukandji_]

Destiny spends 2 months researching, preparing and doing mock debates for this and it ends up just being 3 hours of Alex Jones rambling about random shit and all 3 members of the red team literally not answering a single question. Remarkable.

[@leekmuynuts139]

that's also part of the skill being in politics. using fallacy to dodge questioning, its disgusting, but if u didn't have the ability to do this your worse off.

[@UnrealTestName]

True but I think some people will realize Alex is more like "what you see is what you get", while Destiny actually researched stuff. Good example was his comment about the date of the archived site.

[@robertterrell7057]

We all already knew it would be like that. It is just a fact that you have to extreme levels of knowledge to combat fake bullshit

[@CowboyDerp]

Amazin’

[@bigman50505050505050]

I’m a Democrat and I’m embarrassed. Months and months of research and still parroting the most embarrassing establishment scammy narrative. Run a decent candidate and beat Trump in 2024. It’s not that hard. This stuff makes us look so weak.

[@daverogers8283]

As soon as the moderator said "no need to take turns, just jump in whenever you've got something to say" I knew what we were in for 🤦

[@Law_captain]

It’s like seeing someone take the dog leash off when it’s taut in his hands already

[@YouthEuphoria-x1j]

😂😂😂😂

[@BeeBenson]

Same. I was like, fuck, this shit is going to go off the rails real quick. I couldn't even watch it.

[@ganggang3788]

Exactly 🤣 If Alex wasn't there you might have a chance but nope!

[@shuttttt]

100% intentional no way to convince me otherwise

[@steppingrazor9685]

The moment you add Alex Jones to a discussion you indicate that you're not taking the topic seriously.

[@rootboyfloat]

it's amazing how quickly Alex goes from speaking like a normal person to imitating a bear with rabies

[@retrobluemusic]

and we love it 😂

[@Stayler17]

That's to be expected tho lol

[@HeyBeavis-bf4kx]

He’s still angry because the leftoids kink-shamed him for being into T-babes.

[@avatarion]

Testosterone too high.

[@theobtusemongoose3980]

​@avatarion it's all that super male vitality he takes

[@owenmorris9306]

Alex Jones shouting ‘I’m dominating, dominating’ after 25mins is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard in a debate

[@detrockcity3]

😂. He was funny but he derailed a lot of his teammates’ excellent points.

[@zwoope]

Big coke head energy

[@simonjaz1279]

​@@UltraEgoMche lost probably every single idea to destiny the entire time which is the funniest part

[@R9000S]

@@simonjaz1279watch 2000 mules. The 2020 election was not 100% secure. It was rigged.

[@tehlite1]

@@UltraEgoMc He didn't respond to a single question in a 3 hour debate. LMAO HE GOTTEM! OWNED 360 NOSCOPED - DESPACITO!!!

[@chrisfitzgerald4775]

Props to weird al Yankovich on hosting his first debate

[@thecryptobarnacle9530]

This comment wins the debate.

[@ryanjofre]

Legitimately funny! 🤣🤣🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@hotpocket5501]

@@ryanjofre HAHAHA!!!!

[@WierdDork]

That was the shit bro! 😂

[@chrisfitzgerald4775]

😝

[@Alpine_Nightly]

Alex Jones imploring Destiny to let other people talk is hilariously absurd.

[@FroZoneDeNiro]

⁠@@UltraEgoMcA burger maybe.

[@FroZoneDeNiro]

@@UltraEgoMcThat doesn’t make sense.

[@danielyoung5979]

@@FroZoneDeNirodominated

[@Grimsly3736]

@@danielyoung5979yeah I’m a dominant your daddy son

[@Grimsly3736]

@@UltraEgoMcyour dad too buster

[@neurodeee]

I'd love to see a Destiny - Greenwald 1v1. Alex Jones may be funny for a bit, but he sabotages all serious engagement.

[@joelsommers]

I also came away from this "debate" wanting the exact same thing. Those two could end up being FLASH/REVERSE FLASH to each other.

[@JobVanDam]

I agree, I found him funny but he shouldn't be there. I was also going to say I don't think both Krassensteins should be there, it's basically the same opinion with different cadence. Then I realized who could they be replaced by? Much like Democractic Presidential bench the Democrat intellectual bench is also thin.

[@Totomoto220]

Sorry but Greenwald is a highly educated Pulitzer Prize journalist with decades of experience and Destiny is a uneducated youtuber who got famous for being a bad faith debater. So Greenwald would never do a 1v1 debate with that maggot

[@joelsommers]

@@JobVanDam I don't know if it's lack of people who could've make a stronger showing. I think it's more that many leftie KZbinrs won't get on a stage with Alex Jones at all. I'm not saying I agree with that ethic, but I know a lot of folks, like David Pakman or Mehdi Hassan have expressly said they just won't do it. They don't think Jones gives anyone (even people on his side) any room to make cogent uninterrupted points, and so the whole thing collapses into spectacle. And I think that's probably true. But just the same, we have to show up or we can't change any minds at all.

[@lloydgush]

there was no serious engagement here, neither by destiny or greenwald. actually, there's never anything serious by greenwald, it's always just publicity with him. he likes to think he's assange, he isn't.

[@seb3209]

The gall of Alex Jones to put his hands on a defenceless woman in the middle of a debate. I couldn't believe my eyes.

[@Stinkfist69]

It was verging on intimidation how many times Alex put his hands on Steven. 😂

[@AbundantChris]

Dude, you’re so funny!…

[@RedactedUsername]

Daliban warriors rose to their feet across the planet

[@trailer.prince]

@@Stinkfist69he was thinking about his blue hair inching closer and closer fighting the newfound feelings he developed for steven last night. we all witnessed it in dgg chat tru story😭

[@kalashnikov1343]

I was hoping we'd see a gorilla punch

[@williamhornabrook8081]

So glad to see they got an impartial moderator for this lol.

[@TheHybrid350]

STOP THE CAP /s

[@bisk1407]

Having to moderate Alex and Steven is not an easy task tho.

[@penguinbloopers]

There was a moderator?

[@Manuel-qu3tc]

@@bisk1407 Don't compare Destiny with this clearly unstable child...

[@Stinkfist69]

He stepped in like once or twice. He wasn’t completely useless.

[@samnangpoe]

Alex Jones argue like a 5 years old. I’m louder therefore I’m right

[@jacoblance5747]

Alex Jones intentionally derailed the panel for 3 hours and made sure no one on the other side got a single sound bite. He's not dumb. It takes practice to be that disruptive and still be allowed to participate.

[@calebmoneyhollis663]

And unfortunately that sh*t works at times. He knows his base is a bunch of dumb fucks and doesn’t care for facts. So if he can yell a bunch of right wing conspiracies and the media will eat it up.

[@Dogolog22921]

No u

[@nickmitchell493]

Destiny "I talk faster and with a low-testosterone whine, so I'm right"

[@TheShaggyGriffin]

Debates are more entertaining when the moderator screams like a child because the panel won’t listen to him.

[@stevenspurgeon2087]

How can the elected representative of the people who is the government insurrect the government, who represents the people? Yeah, its not possible for the government to insurrect against its own authority.

[@charlesrump5771]

What was he supposed to do? He was in a tough position.

[@TheShaggyGriffin]

@@charlesrump5771 He was doing fine breaking it up at the start when he’d just say, “Guys guys guys that’s enough.” Halfway through the debate he started to sound like someone raging in a call of duty lobby that doesn’t want to wake up their mom lol. At this point if you are moderating a panel with Alex Jones on it, you should know to bring an air horn.

[@TheShaggyGriffin]

@@stevenspurgeon2087 bro what are you on about?

[@steveholt]

@@stevenspurgeon2087 reread the oath to the constitution Trump had to take to become president. When Trump committed the insurrection he failed to uphold his responsibility to "the people" therefore he was not 'representing the people" during that action. it's not hard to interpret.

[@TripleD94]

Alex Jones is such a perfect depiction of the stereotypes the world has of americans.

[@snow-uq4gx]

They know it's only a certain group that is like alex jones not all😈😏

[@kimberlywrobel]

That's because his fat head is out there yelling the loudest. Also, paying the most in defamation, so there is that. 😂😂😂😂

[@Mrraerae]

​@@snow-uq4gxthats kind of what a stereotype is, you know

[@snow-uq4gx]

@MrRazmut has of Americans don't group all.. has of some Americans 🙄🙄🥱

[@KennyKenKin]

That's why I sometimes say I'm Canadian when I travel

[@meantweetsandcheepgas946]

It was good of Alex to moderate this debate.

[@benwaggler3541]

He's so obnoxious. He shouldn't be invited to debates. Shouting constantly, interrupting and talking over people. Absurd.

[@smblickley]

lol i think he and the actual moderator thought this was another episode of alex jones' own show instead of a debate

[@x0xCRUSHERx0x]

​@WideAngleWonk he's done this, Tucker. Talked to Elon, talked to Vivek, Trump. He's still very relevant.

[@justinlogie5481]

It was held in his studio after all.

[@kleinflote4260]

HAHAHAH exactly. Thank you.

[@JuliusCaesar103]

Imagine thinking you're a great journalist and being on the same side as Alex Jones

[@Mrbigdaddymanamale]

It’s sad that Destiny got 10x the quality debates while preparing for this debate, than these “thought leaders” could muster in the actual showdown. Utterly disappointing.

[@marvin6119]

i wonder why he grinded for a week 8 hours str8 just for alex to rage

[@enlightenednormie242]

​@@marvin6119 It was mainly for Greenwald I think

[@darknessess]

greenwald murked him, tf u talking about

[@daytripper1023]

@@darknessesslmao Greenwald didn’t provide a single good point. He just kept attacking a strawman of their view of the FBI

[@termitreter6545]

​@@darknessess Feels like for Greenwald fans its enough for Greenwald to be present (or absent) to murk everyone and win every debate. Regardless of what he says or not.

[@tclax27]

I love how Alex goes "yeah Glenn let's hear from you" and then immediately dives into a ten minute ramble about nothing.

[@kuhmi3830]

Timestamp?

[@MrGregglesC]

watch it@@kuhmi3830

[@sniperboom1202]

​@@kuhmi3830 literally anytime Alex is talking no time stamp needed.

[@johnny6187]

@@sniperboom1202 nah

[@yeahokaycoolcool]

​@@kuhmi3830 7:40 is the first one - "two of them just went... I want Glenn to go, but I wanna say something here.." proceeds to talk for a few minutes until the question about the civil war

[@Moshm4n]

Dude, it's like combining all Destiny's toxic ex-orbiters into one single Alex Megazord. Jesus Christ.

[@tableslayergaming]

I heard he's divorcing destiny next

[@dradmc7101]

😂😂😂

[@dradmc7101]

"I'm gonna dominate and you can't handle it" 😂😂😂

[@jtizzle1142]

You cant keep soft balling them in like this in front of Jesus

[@bloocheez3]

@@dradmc7101 Destiny's into that shit...or at least he thinks he is until it actually happens

[@justsomelovelylady]

After seeing this, I think Alex Jones is an undercover agent. Sometimes I feel for him bc i didn’t think he had bad intentions, but after this I’m good on that. He talks constantly over the people who are helping his point and communicating it much more effectively, to rant about a personal experience “kinda” related, but not really bc it’s a debate.

[@SirRorschachJack]

Alex is a co trol agent for the nw world order. Trump and Biden are NWO Agents as well. Politics is a circus distract bs show.

[@Iscobroooooo]

That’s what got him to where he is. He hasn’t changed at all in 30 years. He ALWAYS acted like this

[@catchthehare]

You can’t moderate Alex Jones, but you can sedate him

[@ThePainkiller9995]

he definitely drank a fifth of whiskey to help with the coke comedown after this

[@politicaltroll8920]

Not if he is taking bathroom breaks to powder his nose

[@michaeltrombetta6181]

This was honestly the worst part of the debate, he just turns the opposing side into a meme. He should not have been on the panel.

[@cantor4554]

He need a mute button. Irl.

[@halfbloodprincess989]

That would've helped xD

[@printz-of-peepz]

Krassen off top trying to compare Jan. 6th to the civil war is basically asking no one to take him seriously at all.

[@NWBwana]

Oh don't worry. We didn't.

[@Quintin15]

He didn’t say that….. just shows your too stupid to listen

[@kidzbop38isstraightfire92]

To be fair (and I *hate* the Krassensteins and think they are paid shills), I don't think that was his point. I think he was trying to show that you don't have to be convicted of insurrection to be an insurrectionist. However, he failed because it was up to Congress to determine the confederates who were removed from the ballot... and there has been no Congressional ruling of Trump at this point.

[@wakinglife7065]

It’s Ma’am!

[@cl34nsweep]

He was just making the point that you can take the most egregious example of rebellion and still not get charged under said statute. Arguing that he was making a comparison of the events themselves, like the violence, is just a logical fallacy.

[@dansbike1]

Alex Jones yelling at Destiny has to be one of the most entertaining things I have seen in awhile.

[@iguacu3517]

How far into it? Got old kinda quick for me.

[@mr.g4272]

Alex has too much testosterone for this panel. Look at destiny. Shoulders back and leaning down every time he talks. Welcome to the big leagues soy boy.

[@edwardlutz935]

Destiny interrupts everytime somebody counters him with receipts....... when he starts interrupting you know he has been hit.

[@tarfielarchelone2674]

​@edwardlutz935 You guys are murdering the meaning of "receipts".

[@rvanzo925]

He knows he is dealing with a cuck and he can walk over him, see that he respects the other 2.

[@matthewlacks9917]

Please stop inviting Alex Jones to these debates. This might have been informative had he not been there.

[@ZoldarMusic]

props for Alex for keeping this up without any heart attacks

[@YouthEuphoria-x1j]

😂

[@ShyBMO]

​@@mattverville9227 Get heart attacks? Damn that's concerning

[@a1uffy]

Alex attacks hearts of others when his blood pressure goes up

[@kevinjacksoniou1]

Perk of not having 6 booster shots!

[@jlolson53]

LOL. I keep expecting Alex to fall over from a cardiac event. Dude needs to get on a good diet and do some bloody exercise.

[@leeuchiha5661]

This man literally hit him with the "no you"

[@RickyMondragon-g5n]

No u

[@JonathanHernandez-um2tl]

@@RickyMondragon-g5nnaw u

[@0fficialAnthony21]

No you

[@zumeybear6883]

BIT EHAT AM I

[@HarleyQuinnSoldier]

I keep telling people: if you want Alex Jones reigned in make sure that Joe Rogan is there because he is literally probably the ONLY person capable of keeping Alex in line

[@begetasama7209]

That's true actually

[@RobertEgbers]

That’s because Jones apparently gets stoned out of his head with Rogan before and during those podcasts

[@fartbucket3524]

Eddie Bravo might be better

[@Libertariun]

Ian is useless. Alex is his own worse enemy.

[@JohanLiebert1]

yeah but i doubt joe would do it on somebody else's platform

[@dereosroads]

3:18:03 To the contrary, a waste of 3 hours. Alex Jones has zero credibility. Nothing was accomplished here. Instead of debating whether Jan 6 is a coup, just assert that Trump's actions on and around Jan 6 were unprecedented and an obvious disqualification. They won't agree, and that's why these conversations are pointless because something as obvious as that will never be conceded by the propagandists on the right.

[@abhishekdhiman6216]

I would love to see glenn's passive aggressiveness and condescension in a 1-on-1 conversation with Destiny

[@sitonmuhdeckasshole]

Spider man meme for sure. Two feisty rainboy guys getting after it, sign me up.

[@Pipebomb666]

Destiny was an unlikable asshole the entire interview. Alex trolled and talked over him. Glenn put him in his place.

[@fixitfelix718]

That's not going to work well unfortunately..but I'll watch it

[@Aspirintax]

@@JustKeepFlying dude. Nice.

[@TheMasonator777]

Glenn would win.

[@jshv73]

Shoutout to Alex Jone’s bladder moving the conversation forward one piss break at a time.

[@erikpfisterer2346]

Piss or a key bump, I didn’t see that man take a sip of water all 3 hours and he got up to pee quite a bit

[@darkencypher]

Underrated comment! I think Jones is a national treasure, but he's not built for debate, he's built for crazed rants -- completely different genre. This "fusion" just didnt work. He should stick to ranting.

[@sudafedup]

Gotta sneak in shots of vodka somehow.

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

His bladder was definitely the MVP of this interrogation (a conversation with control of a biased moderator is an interrogation, not a debate).

[@AshaOnYouTube]

​@@erikpfisterer2346I wouldn't put it past Alex but if I drink a lot of water I can go to the toilet like 4 or 5 times in a couple hours without drinking anything after

[@garywebb2432]

ALEX JONES GUIDE TO WINNING DEBATES: - be as unhinged as possible - don't answer direct questions - run to the back multiple times to cover for forgetting npc talking points

[@SnapWireOnlyOne]

most people here don't even debate but always good for people to try.

[@garywebb2432]

@@UltraEgoMc the cope is insane lmaoo

[@greatmatt301]

No u

[@aromata1]

- snort cocaine in the bathroom

[@SnapWireOnlyOne]

i'll agree they had some good points but i would have to say there was some points which my self could of debated destiny better on or i don't know if they were shy to responded to some of his questions. i feel like hole room turned into a bit of a ego boost thing. @@UltraEgoMc

[@Actually21IQ]

Alex Jones made this 100% unwatchable crying like a small child. Christ.

[@ElAssoWipe-o]

Obvious bot account is obvious.

[@Actually21IQ]

@@ElAssoWipe-o The real 21 IQ take.

[@ElAssoWipe-o]

@@Actually21IQ * SCREEN CAP * Way to prove that you're bot, mor0n.

[@NeedleDeedle69]

@@ElAssoWipe-oObvious mouth breather is obvious.

[@HarperSanchez]

"Ray Epps got a similar sentence to people that did similar things." Ray Epps was sentenced to one year probation. There were people doing similar things that got decades for seditious conspiracy.

[@peggyivey5828]

Right

[@Soeharto_Pinochet]

you mean an actual fed triggering the event?😂😂

[@codyshmodie]

People weren't even there and still got destroyed.

[@kirklefevrejr.603]

What grown ass man wants to be called destiny You're a damn fool if you think I'm going to call you destiny if you got balls hanging brother why don't you grow a pair

[@vincenzoguandolo8641]

Nope. His sentencing was much lighter because the totality of evidence show that he tried to calm people down several times (recorded on video), and that he turned himself in and cooperated fully with law enforcement investigations. Aside from the fact that he never entered the capitol.

[@peterlynchchannel]

Weird Al and Peter Dinklage on a panel with Alex Jones and Glen Greenwald?!?! The crossover we all needed but never expected.

[@MrPiccolop]

Yeah. Life is weird.

[@stop8738]

It’s so fascinating to me how often people equate fictional franchise mechanics ie ‘crossover’ to two human beings appearing in the same room together nowadays.

[@babayagaforestdweller400]

Hahahaha. He’s definitely a DINK!!!

[@AndScrambledEggs]

😂 got em

[@KulaGGin]

Peter Dinklage lmao. Destiny do kinda look like Peter. They're both smart, unlike all the rightists on the panel.

[@deddrz2549]

The trading of 'no u's from Destiny and Alex Jones was the most wholesome thing ive seen in politics

[@t14dann18]

Jones is suppressing a bit of a smile

[@allrequiredfields]

Destiny cracking a smile with his last 'NO U' sent me.

[@Lannycakes42]

I think they actually thought that was humor. I giggled anyway.

[@kneegrow8486]

No1 could be more uninformed than those 2 Jou know who whateverSteins

[@Snoopdave2000]

3 gays vs Alex jones 😂

[@MrAtbillings]

This is among Destiny's strongest moments

[@artpolamo877]

he got owned

[@rossjasper9654]

Yeah destiny wiped the floor with this debate, but I’d have been interested if Alex wasn’t there to trainwreck it, because then Destiny may have been challenged more.

[@coops074]

Alex Jones taking piss break with no beverage in front of him for the whole show is a rabbit hole I want to go into

[@itsyaboydanno7143]

The Chinese hacked his bladder

[@tinahunningham7708]

What a coincidence that he made sure to unplug his phone and bring it each time 😂

[@garywebb2432]

​@@jimmylee9120 why deflect?

[@nevermusic]

Gotta take a bump a coke

[@radioactivepotato2068]

Let me explain how the human body works...

[@jasminejaramillo5937]

It’s scares me how hard that Brian guy is trying to argue on behalf of the establishment it’s strange they like don’t want to accept the truth

[@codyshmodie]

They are obviously smart but will die on the hill they chose instead of acknowledge the obvious. Human nature is crazy.

[@SecurityCatchingPreds]

@cowboy64 someone needs to relax I can feel the vitriol from here. I bet your a good little lefty you get in line at every chance, oh oh pick me, pick me! Shut the fuck up and actually make a comment that means something

[@thatgurl0022]

Its a spirit of pride and rebellion against truth. They are masters of diversion, projection, any intelectual tactic to twist or deny the facts. But notice, they dont ever actually take a stand for anything relevant.

[@drjerry5389]

Yes, its hard to persuade people who doesn't have faith in the establishment to accept the establishment's courtroom verdicts of the event? To be anti-establishment when I was in my teens was to be a punk-rocker and Anarchist. Now you can wear a suit and be a left or right winger and be anti-establishment with a nose ring or a suit or both? Im not pro-Trump in general but I agree with him on some issues but I dont see January 6th as an "Insurrection"?

[@wakinglife7065]

Is that the gay frog?

[@jfk_was_afk9597]

There’s no fuckin way we got a “no you” battle from our favorite woman and a walking cigarette

[@mikealaniz7236]

more of a cigar. like with a little dmt in it for some reason

[@rowanburns4841]

walking cigarette 😂

[@dodumichalcevski]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh

[@ClayMann]

Off topic but I saw randomly on Kick a real black lady streamer called Destiny. So I went into the stream and did a Destiny joke that finally, proof Destiny is a black woman and got banned. I don't think anyone got the joke.

[@onecrawlarm71]

Lmao it was great

[@k1ruffo]

2:31:58 Destiny is on fire here. Dismantling Greenwald’s very good argument about the history of US institutions. I wish Jones would stfup

[@trunk_slamchest]

Really cool of Weird Al to take time out of his schedule to be the moderator for this debate.

[@stevenspurgeon2087]

How can the elected representative of the people who is the government insurrect the government, who represents the people? Yeah, its not possible for the government to insurrect against its own authority.

[@ivanquiles4903]

How dare you compare Ian to weird Al. Ian is far weider 😂

[@ysgatora9287]

​@@ivanquiles4903Ian is weird in the way that the Sex Offender Registry has his form pre-written

[@theofficialk.a.m...p4760]

​@@ysgatora9287try that again but make sense...

[@ivanquiles4903]

@mendobreath7161 🤣

[@Strawberryjam-96]

My favorite part is when Alex leaves and they finally get to have a debate

[@ankeetasar]

Exactly

[@nateclark4254]

Seriously!

[@learningisfun2108]

I was so disappointed that Alex came back. I knew the quality of the debate was going to suffer, and it did.

[@Ontheroxxwithsalt]

Yes, because liberals only want to debate with people that agree with them. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

Alex' bladder was the MVP of the debate, hands down.

[@winmas7572]

I think keeping up with all of the research and preparatory debates just made me feel even more pain being able to tell each time Nebraska Steve was probably having to bite his tongue to keep from going super saiyan while Alex steamrolls Glenn’s response to a question.

[@MonkeyDIvan]

apology for bad english where were u wen club penguin die i was at house eating dorito when phone ring "club penguin is kil" "no"

[@damedusa5107]

@@MonkeyDIvanwhat?

[@runelt99]

@@damedusa5107 *apology for bad english* *where were u wen club penguin die* *i was at house eating dorito when phone ring* *"club penguin is kil"* *"no"*

[@dondeb9191]

I was trying to figure out why any of the other 5 participants who seemed to be pretty serious debaters, would agree to be on a panel where Alex Jones was also one of the panelists. The only thing I could think of was the ones against him (Destiny, et al.) figured he would be so obnoxious and self destructive that he would single handedly deliver the victory to their side and the ones on his side (Greenwald, et al) figured he would be able to obfuscate so loudly that the reason and logic of the other side would be lost in Jones' clownish cacophony. Otherwise I have no clue because his presence makes serious debate impossible.

[@EmperorDxD]

​@@dondeb9191I'm pretty sure destiny views Alex Jones as someone who needs to be debate against instead of avoided because like it or not his fanbase is huge is better to see why his people think the way they think I don't know Glenn well but by this debate it seems you might be true i think he wanted Alex Jones as a buffer

[@MrYelly]

The biggest shocker here is that Alex' parents allowed him out in public without wearing his pink bicycle cap.

[@alexpalette]

When you do these it is beyond bonkers and so awkward to be addressed as Destiny and not your proper name. Imagine a roundtable with Jim, Pete, Aaron, Chris and Translucent.... That's how ridiculous it is...

[@9thandbaklavey926]

Imagine a man giving himself a female stripper’s stage name.

[@NorCa.Okie79]

That's funny as fuck......True

[@kbud3659]

Destiny is a girl's name 😂

[@Junior-dz4zo]

"bonkers".. funny how people with no friends imagine what it's like having an online persona and millions of viewers

[@aaronpage8515]

@@Junior-dz4zo man you really thought you got him with that “imagine” burn. You didn’t. Gay.

[@JohnDoe-ls1vd]

The smartest guy, was the 1 who didn't waste his time going to this and just called in from home.

[@davantejennings]

Lmao this is gold. I was literally thinking I would have been left 😂

[@SmilingIslandRetreat-pn4dd]

Nah, it's because he's the laziest grifter

[@Astro_Oogo]

Watching this, I just had the realization that there is no room for nuance in debates anymore. no one gives anyone time to flesh out their thoughts so it turns into buzzwords and yelling. We learn nothing from this besides the normalization of two lines of thinking and thats IT!

[@CribNotes]

Most liberals under 40 don't have the political experience necessary to even process what Glenn Greenwald is talking about. However, informed liberals over the age 50 who've been watching the stealth behavior of the corporate military state since 9/11 know Glenn Greenwald is telling the absolute truth. BARS!!!

[@ambot186]

When people don't have a counter "Glenn destroyed the opponent", When Glenn talks about everything but the topic, no straight answers, reasearching in the background during debates, can't reply for shit "Glenn has ascended the r*tard space and only those who have achieved the true enlightment can understand what he is talking about" lol. @@CribNotes

[@vripiatbuzoi9188]

If Alex would not have been there there would have been time for everyone to flesh out their thoughts and no yelling.

[@CribNotes]

@@ambot186 I rest my case if you're under 40. Or did your limited attention span already forget what I said?

[@Geewasright]

Alex actually saved the MAGA side because his antics covered Greenwald and Beattie’s inability to defend their side.

[@ZombieLincoln666]

This is the worst debate I’ve ever seen. Alex Jones ruined the whole thing. Why tf would they invite him and then not moderate it at all?

[@Isaacr90]

it would have 10% of the views without Alex

[@DatZeeShxt]

Had more fun watching you prepare for the debate than the actual debate itself.

[@abstractdaddy1384]

Hahaha well said. Alex Jones is completely worthless to "debate".

[@abstractdaddy1384]

@@oneloveuk852 The topic being more interesting doesn't make Jones suddenly become a better debater. I have no reason to think Jones wouldn't be just as insufferable to listen to debating any other topic.

[@Bradleythebarbell]

Amen

[@PJ_TheAverageGamer]

​@abstractdaddy1384 if you are interested in Alex's worst moments check out the podcast Knowledge Fight with Dan and Jordan. They have 880 episodes up.

[@Naskinlahtaaja]

@@UltraEgoMc by "owning", you mean the right-wing version of the term: "spoke louder"?

[@studiooriginals]

Love how the moderator shrieks when ed interrupts alex for 15 seconds but alex talking over everyone the entire time is met with "come on alex let him talk"

[@dogwater5499]

Yet he interrupts Alex multiple times...

[@Amick2003]

Im guess he was told not to police him as much or something like that because he’s a big name or whatever. He was interrupting his own teammates too and it’s kind of pathetic how they just had to deal with it.

[@jonglenister3268]

@@Amick2003 maybe because its Alex's studio?

[@earhearthush-up5549]

@joeymchavarti1956Aw that’s so adorable, you think who ever shouts the loudest in an argument wins the debate, I didn’t know they let special education kids use KZbin at school!

[@jpturner9452]

That's the difference between a alpha male and a beta male. That answer your question? Trump 2024.

[@owenschmidt1608]

I cant believe ALEX JONES shouted over everyone the whole time and wouldnt engage in the debate, UNBELIEVABLE

[@-__Shadow__-]

I can't believe that Alex was talking and kept getting interrupted and was unable to finish what he was saying so he kept yelling over people interrupting him. 😂

[@mrhouse9368]

Idk it’s pretty believable tbh

[@owenschmidt1608]

@@-__Shadow__- he wasn't saying anything he was ranting and would put out four or five or six points every time he talked and wouldn't let anyone respond to a single point the entire debate

[@woolzem]

It's absolutely shocking

[@ianmoffet5080]

@@-__Shadow__-I can’t believe that Alex was talking over everyone and the second someone tries to keep the conversation to one subject he derails. I can’t believe Alex Jones would do that 😮

[@mattjames7430]

Finding yourself shoulder to shoulder with Alex Jones has got to be one of the lowest possible states as a journalist. Congrats Glenn.

[@crashandburn2267]

It's so cool to finally see him landing debates with these larger-than-life public figures.

[@sitonmuhdeckasshole]

I don't think you can even call what Alex was doing a debate. And I'm not alex hater, I was hoping he had something to add to the conversation but he had fucking nothing. He forgot to bring the documents :(

[@lukecodz]

and actually participate and not be a beta

[@lukecodz]

and actually participate and not be a beta

[@Parpl22]

@@lukecodzand not being a bot a bot

[@MustyStafa]

Yall echoing

[@CordaroBlu]

It's absolutely fact that Alex interrupted Destiny more often and quicker than the other guys.

[@ll2323]

Why are moderators even there? They barely checked him. They needed to mute him honestly.

[@calebwagner7474]

And the only person they told to give the other a turn was destiny

[@woolzem]

He's the smartest one there it's obvious why he's the target that's how it works

[@spenndoolie]

well hes proven to be a bit of a pushover

[@BlueBalledMedia]

@@spenndoolie In a debate, it's not a bar fight. It's supposed to be an exchange of ideas, not Idiocracy in real life: "you sound like a f--"

[@josezuniga4814]

I can't get over how Destiny got Alex Jones to engage in the "no u" contest, had to drop down to his level to get him to engage 🤣

[@YourDadYoda]

Cutest Destiny debate moment

[@ElonCrusty]

That was funny

[@SlickWillHermsted]

Truly the highlight of the debate

[@blackerscreenproductions1368]

No u

[@promethiac2641]

Alex reminds me of what it's like to dump a cheerleader when he debates.

[@blindfire765]

Oooh this abouta be a banger this 3hr vid is gunna get me thru work rn

[@elispiller2686]

Real

[@Ժծթչ]

Imagine finding yourself on the same side as Alex Jones and thinking "yeah, this is fine."

[@SenorAlejandro]

@@XAJUSS Ah yes, one fumble on the other side, versus 3 hours of drunk bear noises.

[@peteharmony6024]

​@@SenorAlejandro. The commies did a horrible job of it except for filling their diapers while spurgin out trying to defend Biden's America. Fjb

[@grimsvaultstreaming3956]

umm cuck the left side got buried but you didn't bother to look up one click or one note so how would you know @@SenorAlejandro

[@Jakereisman11111]

Hilarious tho how Alex jones always seems to be right about what he talks about tho (9/11, stem cell research, epstien’s island, covid 19, bohemian grove, and a lot more if you actually do your research rather than just get pissy because of his 4chan followers and the sandy hook incident (which was framed terribly first of all))

[@evanbyrne7020]

​@@Jakereisman11111 Mech eng here. He couldn't have been MORE wrong about 9/11

[@schannibal1145]

I endured this entire thing live. Legitimately one of the worst debates I’ve ever seen, mostly on the part of Alex’s antics.

[@purplegreenandred]

Amd lack of moderation was horrible

[@jacksondigiacomo]

Moderator seemed to want Alex and his antics. Very strange decision

[@deepfried1234]

made it 27 seconds in cannot go longer how did u make it all the way through without trama

[@Lillipod1]

It was good. I enjoyed it. Still up on Zero Hedge site.

[@FoggyLungz613]

Facts

[@grvonny]

I would pay for the "Alex Jones & Destiny show" Lets make this happen.

[@noblephares8009]

I never want to hear this destiny clown speak again as long as I live. These people live in such a small mindset they can’t understand the external real world factors as play, & yes video is fact. Believing your government has the best intentions for you while the US is currently in 3 soon to be 4 wars makes these people seem like the basement no friend having dimwits they are. Smfh

[@MightyJohnSmith]

They already have something, it's called Infowars. It's Alex Jones screaming over anyone and anything. It's exactly the same as if Destiny was Or was not in the room.

[@aaronblackartt]

Absolutely

[@Nukingfutz]

Can they cut Alex's mic when its not his turn?

[@TheFrayman]

Alex Jones could do a show with SnoopDog and I'd watch. 🤣

[@MrJfitchett]

Worst debate I've ever seen. The moderator let Alex demean, screen, put in a show for his audience and acting like a child. It made it an uncomfortable serious debate.

[@wolvesdentrainingcenter8707]

This debate should have been just Destiny vs Greenwald.

[@ratpackenterprises1607]

​@@michealjaymurphyHas he? That's disappointing if he has. I only saw Greenwald's acceptance of Destiny's offer on X.

[@Guerrilla727]

​@@michealjaymurphyAged like milk. Most intelligent destiny fan

[@Shmokinpancakess]

@@michealjaymurphygreenwald ran destiny over when they debated a few weeks ago. Norm finkelstein said it best about destiny, “if it’s not on Wikipedia he doesn’t know”.

[@Amaroosta]

Alex & Steven are the new power couple for a Leftovers Season 2

[@yourarchnemesis8453]

More like a modernized reboot.

[@z_c]

No, U

[@imaginaryfanboy]

That's Frenemies Season 2. Leftovers Season 2 is with Glenn Greenwald.

[@renerobles64]

I would by that for a Dollar. $$$

[@lloydgush]

no... please no... you gonna drive destiny insane... and alex sane, it ruins everything. imagine if alex had sais "if he had done it, he would have lost anyway, which is why you never implemented the faithless electors plan. you question the election, and then is proven wrong, gosh, maybe exposed in fraud. and now you can't ever tell that lie to your unhinged base again, to calm them down... this ain't russia, questioning the result of an election isn't illegal. look at lula, you embolden her with your "white coup" bull and now he's driving 40 knifes in your back. if you cared about the results coming fast, you would count faster." then destiny says he's a gorilla. you see, it feels wrong.

[@Jerryann0]

destiny is definitely the type of dude to eat the bugs.

[@Jonathan-mk1ju]

And a shlong

[@martinel2450]

And own a large collection of rainbow colored didos to use on himself

[@carter_1]

Started with soy, & will finish with bugs

[@averageatom]

There it is

[@MiqelDotCom]

Dude, you've eaten many thousands of bugs over your lifetime - every mass-produced food product is allowed to have a small amount of insect parts. It's unavoidable.

[@NiceCutz]

16:16 ,the southern Nations/Nation States/COUNTRIES... HAD EVERY RIGHT TO SUCCEED FROM UNION[BREXIT,Hello]..wasn't a civil war...

[@NiceCutz]

❤❤❤

[@arlrb76]

2:24:25 the FBI have a history of corruption, but all of a sudden they played straight on Jan 6

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

What does that even mean? What specifically are you accusing the FBI of doing?

[@beaubensonshow]

Wow 👌 👏 😍 FBI sucks.

[@beaubensonshow]

​@@garythecyclingnerd6219 How about the Hillary Clinton's Allegations, she paid the FBI to make. She got fined in court for it.

[@arlrb76]

@@garythecyclingnerd6219 being tnucs

[@garythecyclingnerd6219]

@@arlrb76 Nothing. You have nothing. Baseless accusations

[@aaronmcintosh4805]

This debate was so egregious, I think Diggity and Alex Jones should have a trial by combat. These are just legal terms.

[@promethiac2641]

Diggity is the name of a gay frog.. in biblical terms

[@KilimnikGenya]

Alex Jones debate style is like a pigeon playing chess. It doesn’t matter your next move because the pigeon will knock off all the pieces and shit all over the board.

[@kululivestreaming369]

No his body language shows he knows nothing about what actually happens seems like Alex Jones got all his facts from Twitter and fox news

[@doublestarships646]

Please someone make an animation of this lmao!

[@Your-BestNightmare]

Best description of Alex. I'm not even sure why he has any clout, that annoying Pigeon move is all he does.

[@KilimnikGenya]

@@Your-BestNightmare Because there are people even more dumb than him lol.

[@Edgar-th1zk]

Doing the lords work here destinyy

[@somedude693]

Alex's form of debate and discussion is to talk over, change the subject, whataboutism, and out crazy everyone else in the room.

[@keokihiga8462]

That’s like half the right tho

[@anacc3257]

He can't listen to someone making an argument. He hears a couple of words and gets an uncontrollable urge to interrupt and react to the words instead of waiting for the full argument and context.

[@SenorAlejandro]

He could not start a sentece without: "the democrats...."

[@Sawertix]

This debate was The Alex Jones show lol

[@holidayturnpike]

Destiny we know this is your alt account commenting 😂

[@gallavanting2041]

I'm only like 40m in but I wanna die. If someone moderated a debate I was in this badly I'd have called them out for not doing their job so fast, he's just letting Alex scream everyone down constantly. Kill me.

[@roberteriksen6434]

I don't think the moderator isn't capable per se, I think it's mostly more that he _can't_ tell Alex to stfu and force a an answer out of him. If he does that, he signals to the grifters, liers and scammers that are targeting republicans for profit that this isn't a safe platform to grift on. It won't just be Alex Jones that won't come on again, it'll be all of them. It takes all about 2 braincells to tell Alex to answer the question or stfu and move on if he doesn't wanna, the _'difficult'_ part is balancing the pushback you give to the grifters.

[@trailer.prince]

i'm too familiar w the ramblings of alex as he tumbles thru unreal dimensions in his head but holy shit last night had to take a break halfway bc the chaos ACTUALLYY fucked my adhd up and panic attacks seeping in from the overwhelm. i'ma return to it today but im not ready for the chaos from alex😭

[@jjc5871]

Apparently you know nothing of alex jones. The only person I’ve ever seen able to reel in alex jones is tim pool.

[@RichardPhillips1066]

Alex isn't capable of being calm and considered, its not an act ..if don't you drama avoid Alex full stop , there's too many people for it to be sane anyway

[@bigbangrafa8435]

He's talking to Alex Jones, he does that even in a peaceful conversation. Anyway, let me give you guys a perspective from outside Steven's bubble. See, his argument is basically faith-based (weird for an atheist), It only works if you have a fiery, fanatical and almost religious belief that the election was run with 100% honesty, that Democrats always play fair and would never break the toys just because they can't have It, and that the agencies are just misunderstood and would never operate against the american people. If you have any, and mean ANY doubts about that cursed election, which according to pools is more/around than 60% of the nation today (even some Dems believe something happened, I assume they just don't care because their guy took the prize), If you don't religiously believe Trump is Satan himself and always assume the worst possible intentions for his every action, If you pass his "red line" for one second, the whole thing comes appart. In other words, he's not debating the issue, he is just grandstanding for his public who already bought into his entire narrative.

[@empru4553]

Amazed by how Steven was capable to take on Alex Jones soundboard spamming and stay rhetorically effective.

[@TheMasonator777]

Nah. Fast speaking is not winning.

[@Nikolaki514]

@@TheMasonator777I agree. I don’t know why Alex Jones thought just screaming and talking fast over everyone would make him look like he is winning. It made Alex Jones looks psychotic and easily led to Destiny and the Brothers winning on the facts.

[@josemauricioreyes7263]

​@@TheMasonator777unprofessional from Alex Jones, his tactic is to speak fast to obfuscate anything he's asked about, specially when knows he's wrong

[@MonoxideTF2]

⁠@@TheMasonator777You’re 40+ in a local band and watching this kind of shit. 💀 If you don’t go do something with your life. 😂

[@Bertinator-nm9ld]

​@@Nikolaki514I think Alex knows that crazy psychotic rants is his brand image, so he leans into it. It's what sells to his viewers.

[@TimWithTheSauce]

I only made it an hour… The moderator only speaks up to let Glen and Alex finish. None of the republicans answer questions or has accountability. Alex Jones shoud have a label tattooed on him that says “Caution Increased Risk of Brain Cancer when near me”

[@blackcatblues]

Alex is the supreme example of someone who can't have a civil disagreement

[@sarahalderman3126]

Hmm, what does he do that is "uncivil" about him? I don't watch or listen to him because his personality and demeanor are too much for me and I simply do not like him. However the content of his statements are all based in reality, though usually and unfortunately always spoken in a rather hyperbolic and exaggerated manner. Like all those ridiculous UFO documentaries, based in truth but conjecturing fantasy.

[@rampantdisorder]

​@@sarahalderman3126So there are videos of women putting onions in their eyes and police high fiving fake rioters in their police vehicles after a fake arrest?

[@mariomario1462]

​@@sarahalderman3126you aren't real

[@nayrtnartsipacify]

​@@mariomario1462you arent real.

[@blackcatblues]

@@sarahalderman3126 I mean, just that. A civil conversation isn't one person constantly steamrolling over the other, taking literally everything they say out of context and start hootin and hollering. I know a few leftists like that and it's infuriating. Alex won't have learned anything from this because he was too busy talking over everyone

[@lordmcawesomeville5628]

If anyone has ever had an argument with a group of their friends, Alex is exactly like the friend that everyone ignores because they know absolutely nothing about the subject every time.

[@IL_Bgentyl]

Hence why they yell. They want to be heard on their perspective.

[@eenkjet]

Both Alex and Destiny were the worst. Neither of them know enough about this topic to be on the panel.

[@BluesAndNoise]

Absolutely insane given that Jones *was there to witness* the J6 attack

[@alexanderwebb680]

Jones bitch slapped Destiny and forced him to concede to lies lmao cope all you want

[@tigeruppercut3934]

I have a friend like this. His biggest problem is he makes his mind up and then researches info that backs up what he’s already decided.

[@Poundz978]

It’s weird to hear Destiny take up for Ray Epps and not Trump when Epps (if anyone) is more guilty of convincing people to go inside illegally

[@patrickfinnie8076]

Not the guy who said for almost a year leading up the election that the elections would be stolen, not the guy who said fight like hell or you won’t have a country left, not the guy who suggested all legal remedies were corrupt and wouldn’t work? You have to be so unbelievably partisan to think Epps did more than trump

[@uhok6712]

People like you are the reason why Al capone got away with everything but tax evasion.

[@uhok6712]

“But but Al Capone didn’t TELL his hitmen to kill people, he just said ‘take him for a walk’! This means he’s not guilty!”

[@ImAManMann]

​@@uhok6712your comparison simply doesn't work.... the structure of organized crime was well documented via witness and undercover testimony and other means which have no correlation with Trump.... if it did exist, it would be all over the media. Apples and oranges.

[@THECHAOSEMPEROR]

Because Trump was president at the time, and a president calling for treason on his own country is pretty fucking bad.

[@questionmarck]

I always thought people exaggerated how bad alex jones was but by God this was unbearable. He acts likes he's in highschool.

[@nameless_alchemist]

This debate is the definition of weaponized autism. Remember everyone, you cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.

[@unseenstalkr]

Thank you for saving me 3 hours and lots of anxiety! True Hero

[@ProfessorSkottey]

Well said.

[@applebutter4036]

It's worth trying though. I've had my own beliefs upturned here and there and not all of my beliefs were formed with air-tight reasoning.

[@ennuiii]

That's why praxis is so important, maybe more so a diverse array of praxis to hit all the potential emotional avenues that led folks to their extremism.

[@RomaTomatoe]

Really depends on the level of conviction. Lots of people hold feeling based beliefs that didn't require reasoning into, and then get out of those beliefs. If that weren't the case, we would have no atheists who grew up in religious upbringing.

[@mattfrosty8775]

I know everyone was worried about the Krassen Bros screwing over Destiny but they did pretty good. My favorite part was the moderator cutting everyone off to let Greenwald ramble & being all shy when Alex wanted to have a tantrum or dance around like a toddler.

[@MrGgabber]

Greenwald kept bringing up excellent points, then Alex immediately started ranting and no one could address them

[@unclebobboomergames]

They werent a detriment like most partnered debates end up being

[@ZTanMURReneRs]

Yeah the moderator just letting Alex run amok and then going oh this is getting too heated, you know what, even though it's Alex Jones that's been screaming over everyone, now I'm just going to throw it to Greenwald who is on his side. Fantastic. Having Alex as the lunatic screaming over everyone so that Glenn can come in to pretend to be above it all.

[@Jchasser]

@@ZTanMURReneRsi thought Darren battle was really good too

[@anacc3257]

The moderator cut everybody off at some point and tried to keep the shouting match as fair as possible. Deserves credit

[@mattt6201]

Glenn was so triggered by Destiny. He didn't even try to hide it. He called Destiny out every single time he spoke. And to be fair, that wasn't that often since Alex Jones was doing the vast majority of the talking.

[@detrockcity3]

Because it’s impossible not to if you’re a real intellect like Glenn. We’re talking boys and men here. It’s a natural disposition.

[@jjb.6152]

​@@detrockcity3Glen rewriting history in real time gtfoh

[@brian1436]

@@detrockcity3 Glenn was extremely bad faith.

[@arcols]

@@detrockcity3 “real intellect” yet somehow spends every comment insulting rather than answering any question.

[@Herr.Mitternacht]

Of course, Destiny is extremely biased and actually doesn't know concepts like coup d'etat or insurrection. It's shocking that a guy with that intellect is speaking so confidently. Destiny will be a meme very soon. I'm from South America. Remember Chile 1973? 60 deaths and the military bombing the presidential palace while the Navy was blocking all ports. Now that was a coup d'etat! You are a poorly educated individual. Shame on you.

[@white_isnt_a_race2338]

Alex jones is just obnoxiously loud

[@tychostation2423]

Oh man. What a crazy time we all live in. Regardless of your politics, we all get to share our only time on this planet with one another. Happy to share it with you all.

[@BigWoppenheimer]

You as well brother

[@arian6565]

AoT moment

[@rodneycox9677]

Awesome!

[@maxwellmcisaac9901]

Amen brother

[@rygy729]

Ew. Fuck you this is dumb and sad.

[@HeatleyBros]

I really feel like we need a next gen format for debates. Everyone wants to see them, but without a structured format you can have Alex Jones just scream over every one. If someone can crack that egg I think they could make a lot of money. Time banks, 1:1 call outs / isolations, team play, penalties, mutes, chat votes, rules that make it fair but keep the fun.

[@Lillipod1]

Tyler not into that much control. He did move them on at one point via the earpiece.

[@jshv73]

AGREED! It needs to be treated like a sport where arguments are tracked all the way to their resolution with claims and counterclaims. Speaking over someone is a penalized, avoiding a question or pivoting is penalized. Just a question of who’s going to want to put in that much extra work while editing to appease like 10% of us haha seems unlikely so internet blood sports it is

[@Rallylabs]

The problem was more Alex than the format. Alex isn’t capable of having a normal back and forth.

[@bertthompson4748]

This womt work. Alex jones will never agree to a debate where he is forced to act politely and engage.

[@chriss.2978]

i take it you've never watched Around The Horn on ESPN. It's one of the few remaining OG shows that's actually good. They utilize tools like you mentioned on the show.

[@jsj31313jj]

“Reality can be beaten with enough imagination.” - Mark Twain

[@maxwellmcisaac9901]

"Don't argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with it." There's no such thing as destiny...

[@calholli]

"Those who can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities" --- "Never attribute malice to that which can be adequately explained by stupidity" -- "It's not what we don't know that gets us into trouble, It's what we know for sure that just ain't so" ---- Mark Twain

[@jsj31313jj]

@@maxwellmcisaac9901 "Sow a thought, and you reap an action; sow an act, and you reap a habit; sow a habit, and you reap a character; sow a character, and you reap a destiny.” -Ralph Waldo Emerson

[@jsj31313jj]

"Those who know the truth are not equal to those who love the truth."

[@ScamwatchDallin]

​@@maxwellmcisaac9901 But... I saw him! He was in this video!

[@llabreell]

It's truly stunning to witness how incredibly far Greenwald has fallen.. I'm ashamed to admit how, back when i was still in college, I actually used to hero worship him.. Heartbreaking..

[@gilao]

Alex's small bladder is the best thing that happened to this debate. Everytime he was away the conversation got so interesting.

[@jeremyrobinson9660]

The coke was wearing off so he had to "go to the bathroom".

[@djbidd007]

Either that or it’s prostate issues

[@ItsOnPaper]

Seethe

[@murshidyahmoumaniekadre]

@@jeremyrobinson9660lol yep.

[@id1550]

@@ItsOnPaper The cliff if to your left

[@andthelightshineth3047]

Glen is Alex's Articulate interpreter.. LOVEDit!!

[@pabloconcepcion3971]

Hulk and banner

[@thebronzemanticore]

@@pabloconcepcion3971 more like Bulk and Skull

[@pabloconcepcion3971]

@@thebronzemanticore no idea what that is old timer

[@dadondonis1689]

@@pabloconcepcion3971 power ranger villains

[@kkkriv7407]

Yesss lol

[@localkauf]

If you ever feel like a useless waste of space, remember that this debate had a "moderator"

[@alantaylor7306]

You can't be weak you must fight like he'll or you won't have a country. He said that as well.

[@emna773]

When I heard Alex would be on this debate and I was excited and terrified to watch him go fully unhinged. It’s like going up a roller coaster before the drop. He did not disappoint and now after the ride I feel like puking.

[@handsomebear.]

what's scary is the intense concentration of soy required to come up with a comment like this 😅

[@k4yser]

@@handsomebear. and HRT

[@jackeagleeye3453]

Alex is pretty much the living version of that quote "No amount of evidence will persuade an idiot"

[@sorrymyenglishbad2535]

@@handsomebear. The intense concentration of soy in order to try to creatively put words together in order to explain your feelings. I have a feeling you're a trump supporter.

[@leeknoz935]

​@jackeagleeye3453 lol you need to go take a long look in the mirror.

[@0Nafod0]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🗳️ *Glenn Greenwald and Destiny discuss the hypothetical scenario of Gore refusing to certify the 2000 vote, with differing views on what constitutes a coup or insurrection.* 01:23 🎤 *Introduction of the panel: Ed and Brian Krassenstein, Destiny, Alex Jones, and Darren Beattie share their backgrounds and views ahead of the debate.* 04:37 🏛️ *Discussion on whether January 6th, 2021, constitutes an insurrection; perspectives range from considering it a riot to comparing it to the Civil War, with varying legal and historical contexts.* 06:51 💬 *Opinions diverge on whether Trump's actions amounted to inciting insurrection or delaying a peaceful transfer of power during the events at the Capitol on January 6th.* 10:22 📰 *Alex Jones offers his perspective, challenging the narrative surrounding January 6th, claiming manipulation and provocateurs, highlighting discrepancies in media portrayal.* 17:36 📺 *The panel debates the severity of the events on January 6th, questioning the term "insurrection" and offering differing perspectives on the scale and comparison to historical contexts.* 19:10 🚨 *Glenn Greenwald emphasizes the discrepancy between media portrayal and the actual events of January 6th, calling it a minor event and challenging the insurrection narrative.* 20:22 🗣️ *Biden's speech condemned political violence, calling out Trump's refusal to denounce it and stating political violence has no place in democracy.* 21:17 🇺🇸 *The debate touches on the insurrectionist narrative and the focus shifts to election claims and attempts to influence state electors.* 22:28 📜 *A historical comparison is made between Trump's actions and JFK's case in 1960 regarding electors and election disputes.* 24:31 🏛️ *The discussion moves to the scope of the January 6 debate and the legal context surrounding Trump's beliefs about the election being stolen.* 25:39 🤔 *A debate ensues about the legal validity of Trump's claims and whether his actions were justified based on his beliefs.* 26:36 📚 *The conversation diverts to the debate's focus on whether January 6 constituted an insurrection, with differing perspectives on the legal interpretation.* 27:46 💭 *Historical context is introduced, highlighting past elections where claims of stolen elections were made, pointing out a tradition in American political history.* 29:37 🎙️ *The discussion shifts towards the involvement of other Democratic leaders and their views on election legitimacy, diverting from the specific focus on January 6.* 36:01 🗳️ *The discussion examines legal aspects, referencing court rulings on freedom of speech violations by the Biden administration, contextualizing these issues within the coup debate.* 39:03 📹 *Emotional arguments and conflicting narratives emerge regarding the events of January 6, leading to heated exchanges and divergent interpretations.* 42:11 🔊 *The intent behind one rioter's statements, wanting to take over the Capitol and set up a new government, sparks debate on whether this constitutes an insurrection.* 48:02 💬 *The discussion shifts towards the handling and formation of the January 6 committee, emphasizing the highly partisan nature and controversy surrounding its creation.* 51:11 🔍 *The conversation delves into contrasting the January 6 events with other historical protests, debating whether the Capitol incident qualifies as an insurrection.* 52:21 🏛️ *Examination of the legal and judicial processes surrounding the events of January 6, disputing whether Trump's actions constitute an attempted coup.* 56:09 📜 *Clips from Trump's speeches on January 6 are analyzed to determine his influence on the events, leading to contention about responsibility and intent.* 57:30 🤔 *Debate ensues regarding hypothetical scenarios and legal options Trump might have pursued, raising questions about defining a coup or an attempt to maintain power.* 01:01:27 🗣️ *Trump's speech referenced "peaceful" but also "fight like hell," claiming no support for political violence.* 01:02:23 🗳️ *Debate shifts to undocumented immigrants' count in the census impacting Congressional districts.* 01:03:04 🏛️ *Discussion on the January 6 Capitol events, deflecting to immigration and political groups involved.* 01:03:45 📣 *Statements from indicted individuals claimed they acted at Trump's behest during Capitol events.* 01:08:09 🗳️ *Argument regarding Trump's potential removal from the ballot under the 14th Amendment.* 01:17:33 📺 *Mention of Trump's actions, claims about the Capitol events, and deflection to past political controversies.* 01:19:39 🤔 *Dispute over Trump's actions on the day of Capitol events and the handling of the National Guard.* 01:24:41 🔄 *Differentiating between "rigging" and "stealing" an election: Rigging involves manipulating public opinion through censorship, misinformation, and institutional corruption, while stealing entails direct ballot tampering or fabricating votes.* 01:28:11 🔍 *Explaining the 'Red Mirage' phenomenon in the 2020 election, where early results favored Trump due to in-person voting, while Biden gained ground later as mail-in votes, predominantly Democratic, were tallied.* 01:32:51 🤔 *Discussing whether questioning the election and claiming it was stolen qualifies as protected speech, highlighting distinctions between rigging and stealing an election.* 01:35:22 🏛️ *The debate touches on legal actions regarding election claims and challenges, scrutinizing specific instances where individuals or groups tried to influence the ballot process through lawsuits or legal maneuvers.* 01:37:30 📣 *Debate on the ethical responsibility of political figures' rhetoric, referencing Trump's and others' comments surrounding the election, addressing the impact of their statements on public perception and behavior.* 02:02:51 🏛️ *The conversation highlights the historical actions of the FBI, emphasizing its past engagement in targeting vulnerable groups for certain narratives, especially during the War on Terror.* 02:03:35 💭 *Glenn Greenwald points out the media's historical cooperation with the FBI and raises skepticism regarding the New York Times' coverage and its alignment with government narratives.* 02:05:14 🛑 *There's a debate about the charges and evidence against individuals involved in the Capitol events, discussing different interpretations of incriminating messages and the severity of charges.* 02:09:26 🔍 *Discussion delves into contrasting legal outcomes for various individuals connected to the Capitol events, highlighting disparities in charges and the legal process for different defendants.* 02:17:37 🧐 *Glenn Greenwald criticizes the judicial system's handling of the Capitol cases, alleging a bias against those involved in the events and describing a perceived lack of fairness in trials and convictions.* 02:40:58 🏛️ *Prosecutors argue that Blue State governors and mayors didn't fully support Black Lives Matter for fear of being labeled racist during the movement.* 02:41:27 🏢 *Black Lives Matter movement had support from corporations, Kamala Harris fundraising for imprisoned individuals, and backing from the entire establishment.* 02:41:55 🚔 *Policing decisions are made at the municipal level, not dictated by governors, in relation to Black Lives Matter protests.* 02:42:48 ⚖️ *Actions like breaking into federal buildings and interfering with elections constitute serious crimes regardless of violence.* 02:43:01 🗳️ *The conversation drifts to whether the events of January 6th equate to historical catastrophic events like Pearl Harbor or 9/11.* 02:45:08 🛡️ *Defining a coup becomes a focal point, highlighting differences in perspectives regarding what constitutes a coup.* 02:46:47 📰 *A coup is generally described as using armed factions to eliminate legal processes and take over the government.* 02:49:34 🚓 *Questioning law enforcement's preparedness during the events of January 6th despite the presence of informants leads to debates about bureaucratic red tape and decision-making.* [03:00:13 URL] *🗣️ Discussing Sandy Hook and Alex Jones doesn't contribute constructively to the debate about key issues.* [03:00:53 URL] *Alex Jones defends his stance on past claims, denies lying about WM days, and addresses larger implications of trust and misinformation.* [03:04:13 URL] *The government's prior knowledge and lack of adequate security on January 6 are questioned, raising concerns about unique lapses.* [03:08:06 URL] *Debate shifts to the legitimacy of the January 6 committee, highlighting partisan conflicts and questioning its pursuit of truth.* [03:13:39 URL] *Speculations arise about potential scenarios if Trump gets reelected, including implications on ongoing investigations and trials.* [03:16:25 URL] *Closing remarks thank the host and panel, followed by brief introductions to panel members' respective shows and work.* Made with HARPA AI

[@xinel4576]

Thank you

[@coleperry6185]

Ur a god

[@andrewferguson6901]

yo sick lil script

[@noiramei]

I was going to do this by hand... AI is taking our (i have crippling autism) jobs

[@maybeimnotwokeenough775]

Say what you want about destiny but this dude is a content machine 😂

[@Aliyaaaa]

Facts 😂

[@erik4177]

no cizzy 🤙🏼😂🫸🏻

[@sitonmuhdeckasshole]

I'm not here to say anything bad about him but I'll be damned if we don't address him having a girl's name. Also, I was worried about Alex turning this into a shit show, but luckily he did.

[@callmeacutekitten8106]

@@erik4177no cizzy?

[@MillieMe05]

I think a lot of his beliefs on this are inaccurate. Saying that the history of the intelligence agencies doesn’t matter us ridiculously naive.

[@kleinflote4260]

This moderator, is the worst moderator, in existence.

[@justwondering9287]

Alex made this unbearable. When I saw that the Krassenstein brothers were Destiny's partners, I was worried but they weren't cringe like they are on Twitter/X. They did pretty well. The best part of the debate was when Alex went to piss. It was so quiet and not as stupid.

[@adsfjkasfads]

Pretty sure he went to do lines...

[@MMAGamblingTips]

@@adsfjkasfadsfacts! He was out of his mind on something.

[@bigjoegrizzly5935]

Them people on twitter are BEYOND cringe lol 😂😂

[@MrGgabber]

Alex was insufferable, but the brothers lost me when they said that burning courthouses didn't count as obstruction because they did that at night-time

[@justwondering9287]

​@MrGgabber That's a good question though. Were they attempting to obstruct judicial business while none was going on? Can they be charged with obstruction for that? It is more true that they prevented business from being conducted outside of the time that they burned the courts.

[@ladykatie741]

“If you can’t apply it evenly it’s not logic it’s propaganda.” - The Great Owen Shroyer

[@thatguybrooke]

Good statement!

[@pdubdesigns8961]

Glen’s face - he is contemplating “accidentally” pulling his internet router power cord with his foot. 😂