Deus Ex Mankind Divided (Zero Punctuation)

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[@Zayl1016]

"Clumsiest racism analogy in all of speculative fiction." With pride, Detroit Become Human takes this title back.

[@comicsans1689]

Both games are equally clumsy in that regard.

[@comicsans1689]

@Emperor Ssraeshza Maybe if David Cage was known for nuanced story-telling, then sure. But he's not. David Cage makes sappy movie games. Deus Ex is supposed to be higher IQ than that, but unfortunately, Deus Ex has not been good since the first game.

[@amilyester]

Frenchies simply don't have a grasp on this stuff.

Comic Sans Yeah, but at least Deus Ex is fun.

[@sasaider3711]

No, Deus Ex MD has one of the best analogies for racism in games. Eidos Montreal have studied the history well to show the aug's desutification in a realistic and satisfying way

[@Sherudons]

Deus ex human revolution, I was trying a no kill run until I reached the towers, over heard a conversation between two guards about how embarrassing death by vending machine would be. I did not get my pacifist achievement.

[@FeinryelRavenclaw]

It is so hard for all the wrong reasons

[@thompse412]

I still don't know how the hell to nonlethal the bosses....

[@Ytinasniiable]

@@thompse412 EMP then takedown

[@neilthecellist]

I like you already hahahahaha

[@JHawke1]

@@thompse412 You can't and it doesn't count towards the achievement.

[@redkingrauri3769]

"So welcome to episode 2 of the clumsiest racism analogy in all of speculative fiction" David Cage: Hold my apéritif.

[@CourtneyCoulson]

You beat me to it!

[@DelinquentDemon]

I don’t get it, but I also don’t want to get it

[@aldar8240]

@@DelinquentDemon Detroit: Become Human. Made by David Cage. Had a *really* bad racism analogy. That's pretty much it.

[@DelinquentDemon]

@@aldar8240 what part of I don't wanna know don't you understand xD

[@aldar8240]

@@DelinquentDemon clearly the... all of it.

[@Antares03]

3:30 It's funny because in the DLC he goes to robot prison.

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

He also predicted exactly what would be added to the Barrett boss fight in the Director's Cut in his initial review of Human Revolution (turrets and sneaking into the upper level of the area).

[@DoratTheKiller]

​@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4evaIsn't the added upper level only in the Namir and Yelena boss fights, and absent from the Barrett one? (there are *only* hackable turrets in that, if I'm not mistaken)

[@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

@@DoratTheKiller There's a small upper area with security stuff I think. It has been 5 years since I made this comment and probably longer since I played Human Revolution.

[@wave3308]

"Adam, I never asked for a throat lozenge, Jensen." One of the funniest things I've ever heard

[@shanemczane6725]

More like "Deus Ex: Full Game Divided"

[@CAL1MBO]

Lmao

[@Kid_Naps]

We all know why. Cause they were making the third game while making this one. Disgusting practice in the game industry

[@XD4Lifeington]

Oh snap. You did not just. Did he just? He couldn't have just. Impossible to just. Fully exemplified to just. Adam Justsen. Just think I'm justing a stroke. Send a Justbulance.

[@Aeradom2000]

And it's not in others? They're making Avengers Infinity Wars both part one and two at the same time...

[@cyrusambrose4547]

Just Cause.

[@craseder]

The sad part is that the Pacemaker example isn't far off from the dividing line. There's text in the Desperate Measures DLC that a life-saving liver augmentation is indeed classified as an augmentation.

[@betweenthepanels9145]

That’s fucking absurd

[@JCorvinusVR]

> better hope Adam never goes to prison So there's this new DLC you should know about...

[@ShiftyMcGoggles]

Using augments for a discussion on racism works just a well as zootopia using predators. There's a physical advantage and a known danger that augments with the crazykillerwithshovelarms switch that may or may not still be there that undermines any sensible discussion. Unless you're trying to say 'minority groups are better than you and are also dangerous, so you should be nice to your eventual overlords now'

[@jackthompson7125]

You'd be surprised how many people actually ARE trying to say that.

[@k.-flynn]

@@jackthompson7125 a fictional Boogeyman group who I'm sure is totally seriously planning racially-charged world domination, who isn't China or neo Nazis, would indeed be surprising.

[@DelinquentDemon]

Hint: their last name ends with -stein and/or -berg

[@turbovirgin_]

It would actually make a lot of sense that that's what they're trying to say, people who try not to be racist sometimes end up being even more racist by accident

[@SingingSpock]

I feel like Zootopia works a lot better because it *doesn’t* try to make a one for one comparison to real life groups. It focuses on showing how systems of discrimination or oppression can come into play and be reinforced even by well meaning people, rather than being a director going “Just found out about racism…damn that shit sucks…”

[@BFedie518]

Seems like there would have been a lot more mileage focusing on the class disparities that leave poor people trying to scrape together the money to buy the drugs they need to survive after only being augmented because they were injured.

[@PaulXPZ]

I was looking forward to this game but the shitty augment your preorder business tactics, the microtransactions that only work for one playthrough and the obvious fact that they cut the game in order to sell the second half as dlc killed any thought I had of buying it. On the bright side now I can spend the money I was saving for this on Dishonored 2

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

DISHONORED 2 :D ohhh man CANNOT WAIT!

[@brytrann]

The dlc is mostly side stories. The second half is in a sequel. Eidos has been making Deus Ex Prequel #3 a year before Mankind Divided came out.

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

It's alright! The DLC was completely tacked on at the last second by executive decree and don't actually fit into the game at all. At least form what I've heard. I mean, it's still shitty that they're there, but apparently you can ignore them completely without it actually hurting your gameplay because the game wasn't designed for them. That is of course if you can get over the fact that they turned Deus Ex's story into such a crappy simplistic nonsensical allegory.

[@TheOriginalMomos]

Sadly, but that's only because lovely Square Enix Europe thought it would be a good idea to cut the dev team into 2 teams to make 2 games.

[@ekscalybur]

Wait, the microtransactions only work for one playthrough? And people are ok with this? Fuck buying stuff, now they want you to RENT stuff? Fuck this game with a big throbbing veiny one.

[@Neffers_UK]

There needs to be more insights like this. All triple A sequels are practically shovelware. There's nothing new, ever. It needs to stop and the only way is for guys like Yahtzee to keep pointing it out.

[@alastairward2774]

True, Yahtzee already put me off whatever the NX turns out to be, now I don't know whether to bother getting an Xbone or PS4.

[@alastairward2774]

jesterofdimensionz I thought about building one, but when I followed the guide on reddit, building an xbone or PS4 equivalent worked out so much more expensive than I thought. Apparently PC kit in the UK costs way more than in the US.

[@Neffers_UK]

The people on Reddit are a pita. I'd go research your own opinion. One forum I would look at is bit-tech.net, UK based stil international, the guys there are pretty good, and don;t blow smoke up your arse, despite being mostly a community of modders. Also, with the consoles, don't forget the subscription based online stuff. It's not a great deal of money to some, but it adds up over time.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

Or for people to just stop buying it.

[@Neffers_UK]

Mhmm, There's also that. When you go looking for reviews on releases it's always the same though, they look at the game as if nothing else exists but that. They look at playability, graphics, options, what you can do etc etc, but never compare it properly to other titles that're out there, and if they do they'll just make it look better to whatever previous benchmark they have for that series. Also, there's things like the "must have" initiative for some people, especially the young people, who just don't care if it's better, just newer. TB is good for tech stuff, Yahtzee for a good idea of how it's going to be to live with the game, if it's gonna raise the bar or not. If either of the two haven't had a rant about it, I'll go looking for other sources of info or just hold out til it's in the bargain bin. I've had too many sherberts so I'm done now lol.

[@Hostilenemy]

My opinion on this game is divided. I'm good at math, specially at divisions.

[@leonelc29]

Now you're just being hostile.

[@hazyspark2387]

+Leon Fook your fooking kidding right or are you Leon

[@leonelc29]

Axelblazerod Gaming fireball​ Damn, your name is quite hard to exploit with pun.

[@pronounjow]

Can you divide by zero?

[@monkinsane]

Yatzi, Human revolution was a damn good game. Not great like the first one - but damn god. Me I'm boycotting the new one until it's on a steam sale, due to Eidos's dumbe decision to include microtransactions in Single Player.

[@Ytinasniiable]

As much as I agree with the many flaws, there's still something satisfyingly entertaining about the gameplay loop of guards noticing a growing pile of unconscious or dead bodies and blindly investigating it like lemmings and then getting the ghost bonus because none of them had a chance to see you "Hmmmm, Steve just checked and now he's part of the pile, I should walk over there calmly to investigate"

[@neon5162]

Really I just keep all mine in the vent system and then head cannon it later that they wake up later and have to crawl out of the vents

[@isletoflangerhans8281]

It was a good burglary simulator.

[@georgesears934]

Shitty microtransactions in a pretty good game... Did anyone ask for this?

[@Bishop38f8]

Yeah, Square Enix did.

[@Aeradom2000]

Just curious; when you say they are "shitty microtransactions" is that just you saying you hate all microtransactions or that the one ones in this one are shitty as opposed to others. Because if you hate them all, well you're just an entitled gamer that I have no time for. However, if you honestly think the ones in this game that don't interfere with the gameplay or shitty, well you just haven't played the game or have your head so far up your ass you can give yourself a colonoscopy.

[@georgesears934]

Damian Let us say for the sake of argument that you are correct, and that the microtransactions here don't affect gameplay (I disagree, but let's just say they don't). If something doesn't affect gameplay, add atmosphere, or make an artistic statement then why bother having it? If it doesn't offer anything of value then it has no right to exist. Microtransactions CAN be good (if well explained, implemented fairly, priced in accordance with the game's cost, and subject to market changes) but if they just exist for the sake of existing then...why bother having them exist?

[@Aeradom2000]

George Sears I've played the game for over a hundred and thirty hours over five different play though. I can state for a fact that I've not once even considered purchasing them because (and this is proof that it doesn't affect gameplay) I end up with around 20-30K left over and a few Neuropazyne bottles as well when it's over. AND unlike in some AC games where it keeps pestering you to buy them, I didn't even know MC (microtransactions because I don't want ot spell out that word every time we mention it) existed until midway through my second playthrough when I was looking to change my outfit. But back to the "if it's not needed then why bother" question, there's two fundamental problems with this question. First, to directly answer the question, there are some people out there that want this sort of thing due to either laziness, or lack of time to really go searching and do all the side question or just want to thank the developer at the same time. It's the same reason people will purchase indie games, or even AAA games instead of pirating; people aren't usually jerks. Which brings me to my second point and that is how in society we've been brainwashed through every media source that businesses are evil (hell, Deus Ex even does this). And so, if a company wants to make more money it's just considered "greedy" regardless of if they truly are compromising the experience for it. A company making extra money isn't a bad thing, but much like with anything else in the world, there is a point where it can cross the line and become excessive. As I covered in the second paragraph, this is clearly not one of those cases.

[@NathanCassidy721]

Yea, Square Enix.

[@DrPastah]

_"You can tell they're the good guys because they're more racially and sexually diverse..."_ *Thank you Yahtzee.*

[@olgajaworska7430]

Who's in this game "sexually diverse" except Miller, who is gay and works for the evil guys? And what about racial diversity. Every faction is quite diverse in this regard

[@Wipeout325]

Olga Jaworska I think by sexually he means male/female

[@dlxmarks]

The good guys are represented by exactly one NPC so not a big sample size.

[@FioreFire]

"Yeah, RIP." ~Adam Jensen, 2016

[@uristboatmurdered6051]

"What a shame"

[@jackstevens7790]

He was a good man. What a rotten way to die.

[@aojpictures]

He didn't ask for this.

[@renai8028]

"what a shame"

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

"Yeah, RIP" Adam Jensen, 2027

[@cwilliams523]

I asked for orange soda, it gave me lemon-lime.

[@SanguivorousRevenant]

What a shame.

[@Tauposaurus]

The machine would not make a mistake.

[@linusdn2777]

You think this is some plot by the staff?

[@Mr_T_Badger]

Haha, it was indeed a plot by the staff.

[@Ranemoraken]

They don't argue an "Anti-Aug" platform very well in the game. Partly because Eliza Cassan is awful. I get it. She's an AI. Yet she's a robot designed to convince other people of a fictionalized truth. She fails in her primary purpose and it weakens the complexity of the game's argument. Propose the following exercise where we concisely argue for the "villains" - from a non-conspirator's angle: Augmented individuals spiraled out of control and killed millions of people. Millions. The world over. The world is split ocer creating new augmentations - a dampening chip - that would allow governments the ability to shut down a person's augmentations and, by extension, their free will in the event of another crisis. Citizens that do not allow for the mandatory surgery will have their augmentations removed. You could argue that restricting someone's free will with a chip is no different than the laws civilians must obey every day. If a person goes crazy, we have a police force to restrain them. In the case of an aug, the police could rely on signals to the dampening chip that would safely disable an aug's ability to harm themselves and others. The segregation of the augmented population is seen as necessary because if these people lose control, their murder spree will be better contained. The city of Prague has been plagued by terrorist strikes, and the population is paralyzed with fear. The train bombing at the beginning of the game is the third terrorist strike in two years, if I recall? The outcry is not unrealistic. As a personal aside, I remember travelling Paris after the Madrid train bombings in 2004. I remember the armed soldiers on patrol as a show of security. In one event, I missed my subway train (I think I was heading to Versailles at the time) and while I was waiting for the next - all alone - armed soldiers escorted civilians onto the subway platform across the tracks from me. The civilians were stripped down and searched. The game may be ham-handed in its delivery at times, but the abstractions are not wholly unrealistic. It might be a possible future as our technology allows us to be more restrictive and invasive.

[@GeorgRockallSchmidt]

Nailed it.

[@TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight]

As soon as I looked and watched all the reviews, I came to the conclusion of how accurate the title is. We really are, as mankind, divided on this game. Even Steam has mixed reviews, haha.

[@mistamonke7505]

alright this is my first time using the KZbin app since the huge update and this comment section is balls to the wall scary.

[@liam6550]

It's not scary, it's just a pain in the ass. Kinda like Jensen's augments...

[@imasiontist653]

its confusing

[@jeronimotorres1]

Get your balls off the wall, you weirdo.

[@bloozism]

the phrase does not refer to placing your sex organs against the wall.

[@MegaRifty]

+bloozism You mean I've been doing it wrong? Shit.

[@ThisIsTheEskimo]

Coming back to this after rewatching Accursed Farms reviews on DX series and I'm still wishing for a collaboration between you two on a series like this, both of your insights are different and fairly unique and I'd love to see both of you bounce topics between one another.

[@_o99]

That would be a dream team

[@HushtheMag]

L.I.M.B = Look Inside My Bum.

[@ciupenhauer]

Bum bum. Bum, bum is the word, I said bum bum bum, bum is the word

[@D0NTST4RT]

I feel like people would look at heavily augmented people the way we now look at people with a lot of face piercings.

[@bubblegumgun3292]

i don't agree how do view people with replacement legs or arms after a accident

[@Cunt143]

But augmentations have functions other than looking like a twat

[@PcGamerHero]

Can people with face piercing see trough walls or have super strength? The first cyborgs ...[reading some news] the first post human cyborgs will most likely will receive mixed results - some will be in favor of post humanism (and why wouldn't you? I mean, being fit and lazy at last ) and some will favor more conservative purism

[@D0NTST4RT]

Broken wizzard And after we get over it everybody will be getting a few augmentations, then there will be the guy you pass in the street that looks like Cyborg from Teen Titans and you'll just be like "a bit much, isn't it"

[@carsonchiu6069]

in the Deus ex universe people have Augs if they've suffered accidents or want to actually 'enhance' their bodies IRL people with lots of face piercings are usually emo deviants that provide no benefits but creep people out and look uglier

[@singed420snowinit9]

My main issue with the game is the stupid cutscene it goes into whenever you do something, seriously why the fuck is there a cutscene for stealth killing someone? I don't want to go to a cutscene where I give the guy a chokeslam, I just want to strangle him silently until he's unconscious or snap his neck, you know... like an actual STEALTH game, fuck me I feel like whenever stealth killing someone I've started a WWE match and it always ends with a big RKO or something, so dumb and it kills the immersion.

[@bensemusx]

is there really that many cut scenes?

[@singed420snowinit9]

bensemus x Every stealth kill is a cutscene lol.

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

Why can't they just die die die?

[@singed420snowinit9]

***** Yeah I don't do the stealth kills I just shoot them in the head, fucking annoying having to go into a cutscene just to do a steallth kill.

[@lastboss4268]

Hey Yahtzee!

[@A1BASE]

You know a game is going to be short with a crappy ending when the developer has a second team working on the third in the series completely in parallel with the second...

[@winghong3]

Well, as history played out now, we now know it was because resources were taken to work on that crappy Marvel Avengers game instead....

[@potatosnake3158]

@@winghong3 oh god they favor more on the most obvious popular bullshit to make more money than create one of the most unique series in the gaming industry.

[@LateNightHalo]

Adam Jensen is so.. So.. Goddamn cool.. He's like "Snake Plissken from Escape From New York" levels of cool.. Ladies want him and guys wanna be him

[@silviogrijalva8801]

you are a pretty active guy on youtube aren't you

[@Dalrane]

Of course he's active. He games even late at night.

[@Abysslord1234]

You mean Iroquis Plissken right? Or perhaps Solid Plissken?

[@Boomeus]

Some guys want him, some ladies want to be him with robot tits.

[@mathesonwarshawski380]

Yeah, I'd love to be an emotionless cyborg that awkwardly dresses like Neo from The Matrix and wears sunglasses indoors. Oh, and Adam. Adam is a suuuper cool name. Though it'd probably be worth it if I could beat the living shit out of people like Adam can in HR.

[@Noobazzah]

Spoken like a FUCKING AUG

[@Billaxle]

DAS RASE-EST~!

[@Boa796]

Best most unbiased video you've done in a while, major major kudos.

[@oktal3700]

Do not mistake having opinions with having a bias.

[@jerrydixon1305]

I really don't see anything bias

[@Mezurashii5]

Or maybe it's just a social aug that makes him sound more unbiased to you.

[@jellybean358]

the only games I seem him being "biased" with is dark souls because its his guilty pleasure or any spunkgargleweewee games

[@ManiacX1999]

+albert arnold Then you clearly have not seen enough of Yahtzee's videos.

[@deltashadow2378]

I'm pretty sure in one of Jim Sterlings videos on this game he said someone on the inside told him it may have been split into 2 games which explains why it feels so short.

[@johnkramer2144]

This is a game that tries to be an allegory for racism/ social differences but utterly fails to give both sides a fair view. Is it racism or is it just people afraid that the AUGS will be sent into kill mode again. Just fails on so many levels to address these issues and comes off as a video game using controversial topics as a means of making money.

[@jonathanbland7980]

I really don't think it's trying to draw allegories to real world racism, apart from that one poster in the trailer that was done before the game was.

[@slimybean]

+hi there It really is though. The whole thing of benches, restrooms and train cars being plastered with aug/natural only and restaurants having aug only entrances at the back next to the bins is like apartheid imagery 101

[@jonathanbland7980]

Andrew Bradshaw yeah, the basics of apartheid are present, but, like Yahtzee said, it's actually justified, it's a different type of discrimination, where the reaction is justified. But the treatment is not.

[@Tankdomain]

Just my opinion: I don't recall any point in the game where they say the fear of Augs isn't justified. Jensen is constantly conceding the point. The issue now is that people don't know if Augs are safe, even though what happened wasn't their fault and entirely caused by an outside motivator. It's a short hand for unjustified social segregation. It's established that the Augs had an "episode" of sorts and it isn't their fault that it happened. Many of the Augs you meet are in fact deeply remourseful. I appreciate it as a way of having a topic like segregation in the game while leaving it up to you to decide if it's justified or not. The game deals almost entirely in grey except for the choices you make as a player.

[@ChuckPalomo]

After having just playing the game I have to say your comment is full of shit. The game does give a detailed and rational account of the social divide caused by augmentation technology, which is further aggravated by the Illuminati conspiracy controlling mass media in order to direct hatred towards the augmented population. All you did was repeat what Yahtzee but without any of the comedy in order to get likes from those who just watched the video and thus are more inclined to agree with you.

[@Hoonters-goona-Hoont]

I can't wait for Deus Ex: Fanbase Divided 2 Electric Boogaloo, just to see if Square Enix will have the balls to *ahem* divide the remaining half of this game in another two halves for a wonterful, filled-to-the-breach quadrology.

[@KilnFirelink]

Yahtzee is just grumpy as he misses Gabe.

[@Luciffrit]

No one to pump him full of jizz at night. =(

[@Arretey]

still haven't watched the second episode of portal 2, makes me really sad to think it's over, I mean in perspective it's a bit silly but honestly they were very fun people ;.;

[@linkno1]

My Sunday's are incomplete now. I still have a look just on the off chance something pops up...But it never does...

[@Luciffrit]

Tao Like a geriatric watching porn.

[@MegaPlayerXxX]

Let's also add the butchery of Czech language and Prague...sorry, I mean HUB city

[@YukonCornaglia]

"Let's use this game to talk about current race relations, Islamophobia and the Syrian refugee crisis!" "Great idea, sir! How do you want to approach these complex and sensitive issues?" "Spray paint 'Aug lives matter' on the walls of the slums they're forced to live in and call it a day." "Brilliant, sir. Simply brilliant."

[@PlotlinePlus]

Well... in the DLC for this game, he DID go to robot prison.

[@tizodd6]

"It hits all the same beats as reliably as a one-hit-wonder playing their annual comeback tour"...pure gold

[@amilyester]

Played this over the last week of 2020... What a trip. I'm scared for 2021 now. . .

[@KaneK1234]

Human Revolution was a game with a lot of heart and soul put into it. I'd argue it's far better than "OK" especially when put next to other RPG's these days like Fallout 4.

[@aravindpallippara1577]

But it's being compared to the original Deus ex, it has bigger shoes to fill (sure 4 was compared to new vegas)

[@Chinga3000]

I counted 53 Dvali gangsters and robots in the penultimate mission , In and around the movie theater , marked all of them.

[@GreatGeneralZar]

Psst hey you, ya want the dlc for free...behold Cheat Engine.

[@jackthompson7125]

I wouldn't touch this shit with a thirty-nine and a half foot pooper scooper for free.

[@furjaden8553]

@@jackthompson7125 r/rareinsults

[@MrL0WEL]

Sorry, Yahtzee. I thought Human Revolution was more than "Okay", so I kinda liked Mankind Divided just fine.

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

Oh I'm sure Yahtzee will forgive you some day. :p

[@Leir0n]

You're definitely in the minority in thinking that Human Revolution was just "okay". To most people, including me, it was amazing.

[@TheSPOREREX]

When compared to the original Deus Ex, Human Revolution can seem a fair bit underwhelming. From the perspective of someone who grew up with the first Deus Ex (Yahtzee), you can see how he can find it just "okay".

[@Leir0n]

Agree, compared to the original DE it's maybe not that amazing - but as a stand-alone game I do find it very good. Easily in my top 5 games from 2011.

[@mrmuffinz126]

He didn't take notice about what was good about MD over Deus Ex either. The level design was actually amazing, and had so many more clever options while retaining pretty realistic building design that it beats out Deus Ex. The bank is probably the best example of this. Even the game-play has matured a lot more, with the new experimental augs being a blast to play with and the game allowing proper "from cover" takedowns that actually throw the body behind you so you dont have to pull them yourself. I also didn't like the comment about how "augs are everywhere" in this game, and not in Deus Ex, when i'm fairly sure the Human Restoration act (that was the main focus in the game) will get passed eventually, in some form, and thus will be the reason for a huge lack of mechanical augs.

[@vids2002]

I've been waiting for this on KZbin

[@ibogdan28]

its in higher resolution here

[@ThisisCitrus]

AngryJoe's review is better, Yahtzee misses half of what actually makes this game bad (like usual). Human Rev was really good.

[@vids2002]

Angry Joe does good reviews but they are suoer bloated for run time to make more money. Nothing wrong with that but still. Also, I come here for the laughs and simple overview of it all

[@anavale2521]

now dont rage on me for playin bo3 cus i dont call it good but he forgot certain shit like dead ops arcade 2 and nightmares mode just sayin pls dont rage on me im a payday 2 player wich im slow passed and sniper but not in a quickscoping way cus i react taticaly pls no hate k?

[@GrandiaKnight]

Good luck on the Co optional Podcasr next week Mr Yahtzee!

[@tighewylie-freegard82]

You just made my day reminding me

[@theheroofkvatch8370]

what's that?

[@lomion200]

really? oh man yes please

[@johnsmithy9850]

Really! Awesome!

[@Root174]

It's actually happening? Oh, this will be good :P

[@Fortunateson69]

I think Yahtz has just started using actual dongers in his reviews instead of what I could only have guessed were dildos just in an attempt to see what he can get through the censor brigade. This is only a guess though.

[@nickmagrick7702]

id like to see sequels that used the saved game data of the prior games to influence the plot/story/mechanics of the sequel. Just imagine how much replay ability you would have

[@randominternetsurfersurfin7595]

the only games I know that do that: infamous 2,probably mass effect 3.

[@nickmagrick7702]

explains it, ive never played any of those

[@Fluxxdog]

My brother: My god, does he not need to breathe? Me: It's called Zero Puncuation. He basically writes his script and throws out the periods. Bro: ... Thank good I don't have to clean up after him. Not enough mops.

[@Ulyaoth74]

What? Was that a menstruation joke or something?

[@starseb21]

no. he's clearly talking about the mess that is left behind by punctuation dots.

[@linkno1]

The thing where it goes into a cutscene every time you do something is possibly the thing I hated the most in the last game, so I was disappointed to see it for some reason return in this. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea anyway, or did nobody think it was actually a good idea but the animators wouldn't drop the subject? "Oh, look how cool our 3rd person animations are!", no, stop that, it's irritating and destroys any immersion.

[@C0C0L0QUIN]

But...but...its cinematic!!

[@C0C0L0QUIN]

And don't forget adding QTE's!

[@designate_om]

I love that the "ethnic music" was just the Incredible String Band

[@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin]

Games really need to stop doing these fucking social justice allegories, they're not fucking good at it. It's like how later Dragon Age games tried to use mages as a homosexuality allegory, really falls apart when you consider that a single mage going bad can cause an entire town to turn into a zombie and demon filled hellscape.

[@marcinmazurek8124]

Ironically he then ended up going to Robot Prison as well

[@chrisokeeffe3895]

Ghostbusters was absolute shit though

[@alastairward2774]

It really was rubbish and that wasn't anything to do with whether or not the busters were women or not.

[@alastairward2774]

TheKeyser94 reread what I and Chris were talking about. The Ghostbusters reboot was shite. I went to see it (my offspring asked...) and I'm judging it on that basis. It was shite. However poorly the black actress was treated doesn't make the movie magically better and I think Sony were cynically hoping that people would go and see it out of solidarity with her, which is a bit of a dick move on their behalf.

[@alastairward2774]

TheKeyser94 lol, what the actual fuck are you on about? I'm not a fanboi, the second movie was just as bad as this reboot. If you actually took time to read what I said, the film was awful regardless of what happened to any of the cast. You can be repelled by the racism directed at Jones and still not enjoy any more than a few minutes of the movie.

[@DevilsAdvocateofnazareth]

you know people can have different opinions to you? feminism hasn't brainwashed EVERYONE yet

[@alastairward2774]

TheKeyser94 dude, what?

[@neoncrusader7244]

5:02... Did you just make a Goosh Goosh joke there Yahtzee? In 2016? Absolutely glorious.

[@NidorinoAlliance]

With his reviews so far this year, these are my predictions for his Best of/Worst of candidates: Best: - Salt and Sanctuary - Doom - Furi - Quadrilateral Cowboy Worst: - Homefront: The Revolution - Metroid Prime: Federation Force and/or Star Fox Zero - Bombshell - The Division Blandest: - Dark Souls 3 - No Man's Sky - Deus Ex Mankind Divided - Far Cry Primal

[@NidorinoAlliance]

TheKeyser94 I'm not complaining about Dark Souls. I've never even played it. I justthought that he seemed unimpressed by Dark Souls 3.

[@dxBIGBOSSxb]

This and Metal Gear Solid V make me question buying stealth games attached to beloved franchises that are published by Japanese corporations.

[@4T3hM4kr0n]

japanese? eidos montreal is from canada.

[@dxBIGBOSSxb]

4T3hM4kr0n! Square Enix owns the company, the property, and is the general publisher. Same with Konami and Kojima Productions.

[@bowlofrice1006]

He's a fucking idiot that thinks blaming the Japanese will somehow make it ok. lOl

[@dxBIGBOSSxb]

Distracted Observer what?

[@superapm9620]

Big Boss *"This and Metal Gear Solid V make me question buying stealth games attached to beloved franchises that are published by Japanese corporations."* lets add Thief, hitman and.... *vomits in mouth* ... metal gear.. survive ..... to that list *faints*

[@Frrk]

About the writing of HR, I loved the world building and some back stories/histories. But what actually happened in the game didn't engage me as much because I felt like I was mostly chasing some unknown generic badguys around the globe.

[@bonnie1020a]

Or, more accurately, between Detroit and China for a while, occasionally going to a black site or to Montreal for a short break from growling at people.

[@paradoxacres1063]

I know you didn't ask for it...but a *HuniePop* review would be great, Yahtzee :)

[@mrobject9113]

Yes! I want Yahtzee to review Hunie Pop, and every single Five Nights Getting Fingered by Freddy game.

[@outsider344]

+Paradox Acres Oh my god, you're still around? It feels like its been about 6 months since Jim Sterling banned you from his comments, so you have been doing this weird huniepop evangelism for what, like a year now?

[@Azure-Flame-Bee]

The whole aug racism thing has one pretty big plot hole. What if someone needs augments? For example, say someone loses an arm in a horrible accident and gets an augment prosthetic arm. Would they be oppressed just because they chose to get augments because of an accident that was beyond control? No because that makes naturals sound like assholes

[@leon2550]

apparently it's entirely aimed at neural augmentations rather than physical ones.

[@SnickeringBadger]

There's a guy in one part of the game you speak with briefly. The guy has a limp due to a leg that doesn't work. He chooses not to get an electronic one and just continue living with a prosthetic or something. So yeah. They'd discriminate regardless of why you have them. Hell, Jensen got them due to being in a terrorist attack at the start of Human Revolution. I don't view it as a plot hole. There are people like that already in the world who treat even pacemakers as unnatural and against god's will. The bigger plot hole I find is that they chose the Czech Republic as the setting for this movement. Poland I could understand as it's a heavily catholic country... But Czechs are some of the least religious people on earth.

[@ASpaceOstrich]

You don't have to be religeous to have an unhealthy and irrational obsession with being "natural". I can safely say that, while it probably wouldn't be to the same degree shown in the games, a decent chunk of asshats would indeed treat augmented people like scum.

[@redwolf1015]

Jensen makes that argument in Human Revolution actually. I forgot who he was talking to at that point but the response is the same response you get from anyone you give perception to their bigoted view: "I know some people NEED it and i get that, but i still hate them >:I"

[@BelligerentSky]

This game has more loose ends than a public restroom inhabited by George Michael. They bring up a million and one factions like the MachineGod, the Collective, the Mob, and even the fucking Illuminati (again) and none of it concludes. This is sequel-bait at it's finest. It absolutely could have fit into one game. It cuts off harder than Brock Lesnar preforming a circumcision.

[@HarmonicaPresents]

Thing is, I'm pretty sure Deus Ex is only using the augmentation-racism parallel as part of a greater commentary on paranoia and the media as a whole, which is certainly relevant today, and such a narrative could be traced back to the original Deus Ex too.

[@connorforce01]

I think you forgot one little thing there... FUCKING MICRO-PAYMENTS IN A FUCKING AAA CONSOLE/PC GAME!!!

[@peterturner2339]

The core problem of this game was something Yahtzee never touched upon: with the open-ish city and the interesting exploration toolset available to the player, the exploration toolset progression should've been used to turn the game into a 3-D Metroidvania. It would've been brilliant.

[@E1craZ4life]

Review of Deus Ex: Mankind Divided by Zero Punctuation I DIVIDED BY ZERO! OH SH--

[@dunadan1995]

I asked for this

[@KiwiLombax15]

Same issue I have with the omnic sideplot in Overwatch tbh. Yeah people fear and distrust omnics. Because barely 2 decades ago they tried their level best to wipe humanity off the face of the earth like bugs off a windshield. I don't call that racism, I call that fairly understandable.

[@melvinthemenace3951]

"God I hope he never goes to prison" Ironic.

[@NoobLord9001]

1:20 David Cage: *H O L D M Y B E E R*

[@ArcaneAzmadi]

Then you realise that Eidos-Montreal and Squeenix were blatantly padding this series out for a trilogy Tomb Raider Reboot-style, and had to chuck it in without finishing it. Fuck this games industry.

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

Predicting the Criminal Past DLC, now, I am not saying he is part of the Illuminati, but...

[@Spooky_Bard]

"And a protagonist who'd get cut out of a Matrix sequel for taking themselves way too fucking seriously." Since when would that be a problem? I thought that was part of the requirements.

[@adolphinheightlar5347]

Not to derail all this wonderful talk of race, but why the FUCK do Gnomes take a -2 to strength? I mean come the fuck on, Elven arms are that skinny, and I don't think they take a -2 to strength. On the plus side, gnomes get plus 2 to con so a Gnome barbarian is still entirely playable, but it still stings.

[@brytrann]

Without Enix, this game would've been Hugh Mungus

[@nathanwood4757]

I liked it. But then again, I spent my time messing around with side missions and just over all doing stuff. It did feel short, but I expected it to be because it felt like the quality of detail was higher.

[@willyum3920]

genuine question; what is the reason they use cut scenes for combat, is it just quicker/easier/cheaper to develop? - I ask this because its so obviously awful.

[@andyplum4422]

I would love to see Zero Punctuation review movies as well as video games! I feel like Yahtzee would roast so many movies.

[@theDEMANshore]

the whole killing guards is bad thing as always infuriated me like back in Dishonored you would get the bad ending just for killing a couple hundred guys who shot and stabbed innocent people. i would have made it so if you slaughter most of the guards in a level the ones in the nectrwould be tougher with bettwr gear and tactics. still i guess it was try to say that your charecter wasn't a shiv happy serial killer before and shouldn't become one

[@ratbaby3107]

Attack on titan did the same shit, if you're trying to make a racism allegory, the point of it unless your a racist is that the fear and discrimination is unjustified and arbitrary, so providing a justification makes it bad

[@First-Last_name]

I got this one for like $6 on sale and still haven't managed to install it.

[@thewanderer5506]

Technically, the sequel follows the Destruction ending, destroying Pangea and not choosing one of the 3 other choices

[@hypocritic2422]

That looks more like child abuse than a stealth route. 4:23

[@WardyLion]

The “bells and air horns” line always makes me laugh.

[@typacsk]

"So welcome to Episode 2 of the Clumsiest Racism Analogy in All of Speculative Fiction!" Yahtzee, let me tell you about a little show called RWBY...

[@kishaloyb.7937]

Hey man, at least the NSFW part of the RWBY community is quite good enough, and floats my boat at night xD

[@damonclocks6270]

I don't know if you know this but there's an add-on where he does that he goes to prison

[@GreenLinzerd]

Wait, hold on, There hasn't been a non-Yahtzee video on this channel in four months. I thought everyone was exaggerating.

[@lomion200]

i lost interest when i decided to replay because augmented big boss asked me to not kill anymore of his guys, so i decided to redo the level and not kill anyone but guess what it made no difference. i expect more detail in a deus ex game its like they took a step back instead of improving

[@larsonthewolf3518]

I thought the sub text to Mankind Divided/ Human Revolution was more about gun control not minorities.

[@blackvial]

the idea of racism is about naturals vs augs

[@Texas.T]

Rolf lol . I love this your jokes and insight on the game is right on

[@dualwieldingnoob5077]

lol in the DLC he goes to prison.

[@thelaughingrouge]

Stop giving Squeenix your money, because they won't stop crap like this till they see that it hurts the bottom line.

[@ruddyplayerone1420]

Pretty sure I'm augmented now, after I had a metal filling out in a tooth the other day. I now go by the name of 'Cyber Molar'.

[@JCDenton2012Modder]

This is roughly half of a typical Deus Ex game in terms of length. In terms of length and quality I would put it in terms of being a Dragon Age Awakening to Dragon Age Origins.

[@mrmuffinz126]

Half? The length is based purely on how good you are at Deus Ex and how invested you want to be with side missions. Human Revolution took me about 27 hours to beat while casually doing side missions. Mankind Divided took about 25 hours to beat on Give me Deus Ex, semi-stealth and pure pacifist while also casually doing any side mission I could get without looking too closely. I think it feels shorter because there's less boss fights, but boss fights in games are always just tank-and-spank bullet sponges so I don't really miss them. You can easily rush through it, sure, but you could also rush through the original Human Revolution, and Deus Ex.

[@cybericarus1476]

you can't be serious...

[@solanceDarkMOW]

Alright, so does this game still get the prize for 'worst racism analogy in all of speculative fiction' now tgat Detroit:Become Human exists?

[@suka_pt7330]

Awesome gameplay, and its world its just amazing its The only one game to play while waiting for cyberpunk 2077✌️

[@itwasapleasuretoburn7236]

it isn't about racism if anything it's about classism

[@FakeJeep]

I admit the game ending pissed me off.... like "Are you kidding me..." was my exact phrase... I did enjoy the game and it wasn't that short to me... if you've played any open type rpg game then doing side missions and exploring will take a lot of time. Although if you go straight for the main story then ya... short. I'm actually glad though there was only 'one' boss fight in this game... in the last one the boss fights were mind numbing at times and even the one in this game left me wondering.... WHY WONT YOU DIE?! After emptying literally all my ammunition and failing to stab him to death multiple times.... I finally brought up youtube... and saw I had to use a turret.... it was rather disappointing from that on.

[@Montesama314]

Yeah, I don't get that racism allegory they're going with. We've already created the "people are ostracized for something they're born with" story, and it's the X-Men comics. Augmented people are more like people who engage in a more serious version of today's prosthetics or, I dunno, really useful tattoos. Maybe, a gun rights thing? Arms and legs as lethal weapons? What I know is, the analogy is thin, at least on its face.

[@snake56]

It's sad that Square Enix likes to fuck up their western games with unnecessary multiplayer modes, microtransactions and lack of endings (the last Tomb Raider game was exactly like that).