DeWalt ToughSYSTEM 1 Vs. Tough SYSTEM 2.0 Toolboxes - Which one is better?

DeWalt ToughSystem 1 versus Tough System 2.0 Toolboxes Review. Everything you may (or may not) want to know about these tough toolboxes. In this video I compare the internal and external dimensions, the features, functionality, and pros and cons of the extra large mobile rolling tool boxes, medium / large tool boxes, and small tool boxes. Some boxes I purchased with combo kits, while others I picked up during the Holiday sales at my local Home Depot. #DeWalt #toughsystem
Links to points in the video
00:00 Intro
00:15 Individual Model Numbers
00:27 22" & 24" Extra Large Mobil Tool Boxes - Dimensions, Weight, Load Rating, The Wheels, Handles, Accessories, Racking
3:35 22" Large / Medium Toolboxes - Dimensions, Weight, Top/Side Handles, Racking, Lids, Accessories
5:10 22" Small Tool Boxes - DS130 vs. DS150, Dimensions, Top Handles?, Airlock vs. 2.0, Handles, Racking, Lids, Accessories
7:15 Comparison of General Attributes - Manufacturing, Locks, Materials/Durability, IP65/Gaskets, Latches/Buckles, Hinges/Lids
9:42 Stacking and Attaching, Compatibility of 1.0 vs. 2.0, Power Station, Overall Capacity (20% more?), These things smell!, Aesthetics
11:10 The Lifetime Limited Warranty... Does it matter? Common issues.
11:48 Holiday Pricing... Holy Moly!
12:19 The Wrap Up Summary
12:41 Workshop Dance Party
Products appearing in this video:
ToughSystem 1 - DWST08250203130
DeWalt 22 in. Small Toolboxes - DWST08130 (DS130), DWST08201 (DS150)
DeWalt 22 in. Medium / Large Toolbox - DWST08203
DeWalt 22 in. Extra Large Rolling Toolbox - DWST08250 (DS450)
DeWalt 22 in. Extra Large Toolbox - DWST08204
DeWalt 12-Compartment Small Parts Organizer - DWST08202
DeWalt 22 in. Tote Tool Box - DWST08205
ToughSystem 2.0 - DWST08165W00450
DeWalt 22 in. Small Toolbox - DWST08165
DeWalt 22 in. Medium / Large Toolbox - DWST08300
DeWalt 24 in. Extra Large Rolling Toolbox - DWST08450
DeWalt 22 in. Extra Large Toolbox - DWST08400
DeWalt ½ Small Parts Organizer - DWST08020
Toughsystem 25 ½ in. Workshop Racking Storage System - DWST08260, DWST08270
ToughSystem DS Carrier Utility Hand Truck Dolly - DWST08210
Click here to see my latest comparison of the 22" Toolbox with Drawers and the Parts Organizers here: • DeWalt ToughSystem 1 v...
My Review of the NEW DeWalt TS 2.0 Dual Port Charger Box: • DeWALT Battery Charger...
***Always refer to the manufacturer's website or consult the manufacturer for exact product specifications.
Video CORRECTIONS: Per the latest literature from DeWalt the System 2.0 Mobile Toolbox (DWST08450) itself has a load capacity of only 88 lbs. , but as a dolly it can handle up to 250lbs. The 2.0 Extra Large Toolbox (DWST08400) has a load capacity of 110 lbs.

[@bcgrant6582]

Hands down, best review I’ve seen of anything!!!!!! Straight to the point, tons of info, and on screen dimensions of the products. Great review, I have subscribed.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words! And thank you subscribing!

[@bcgrant6582]

@@BruceAlanR You’re very welcome ☺️

[@deanemerson4068]

Awesome video, very informative, very honest, and just the right amount of funny background sound fx. Thank you very much!

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind feedback. Cheers!

[@whirledpeaz5758]

Love the visual side by side dimension comparisons. The sound effects are hilarious. Fun Review.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad it was helpful.

[@wesleybrown2777]

This video is EXACTLY what I needed! Thanks!

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad it was helpful! Cheers!

[@palsh]

I really appreciate this video. I checked out your review on the dewalt 20v leaf blower and that earned the follow, I just picked up 3 toughsystem 1.0 boxes on sale and just was curious on the differences. I'm glad I got the older ones on sale, and your video was peace of mind after the fact.

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad the video was helpful and thanks for subbing! I just picked up the system 2 drawers (I previously reviewed the system 1 drawers) as well as a system 2 small parts organizer… I plan to review them soon since somehow DeWalt got it wrong… again. Turns out the system 1.0 drawers and organizer are better for me. Ha! Thanks again!

[@diazaa]

Great video. I watched this earlier today to help me decide. Yesterday I went to get hands on on the 2.0. With wheels. Unfortunately none in stock at two closest stores. I also checked out the rigid, husky and hart (milwaukee out of my price range). I decided to wait on the 2.0, but today I found a 1.0 with wheels brand new for 50 bucks. Your informative video helped tremendously!! With the savings of purchasing the 1.0, Ill be able to get basically any 2.0 add on box as well! Thanks alot!

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad the video was helpful. $50 for the 1.0 is a great deal!

[@kevinshea5819]

Great video, great job. Right to the point. Thank you for the informative and comprehensive review.

[@BruceAlanR]

Very welcome. Thanks for the feedback.

[@markpennell4938]

Really good video. Thanks. All the info I needed and more.

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad it was helpful!

[@seanmyers227]

Wow! Awesome review! Straight to the point!

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words! 👍

[@jenniferstaley3851]

This was great. Trying to decide on a grad gift for my cousin. Answered all my questions and then some

[@BruceAlanR]

What a great grad gift! I’m glad the video was helpful. 👍

[@raywright2401]

I bought a dewalt drill kit years ago and have loved the case as it has ample room for batteries two drills, and every drill bit you can imagine in the pull down tray. I just found out the box was toughcase 1.0 and now looking to build on it!. Drill, case, and batteries are still working great.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that! The toughsystem 1 model DS150 is hands down my favorite box for drills and drilling accessories.

[@fartpooboxohyeah8611]

Fantastic review/comparison. I'm not even in the market for these, but you sold me! lol.

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@bonzaifpv3015]

Love your style and the sound effects :)

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words and feedback. Some folks like the sound effects, while others don’t. I have been known to go overboard with them.

[@michaellee8815]

I wish every review video was as concise as this one (with fun sounds obviously)

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! Thanks for the feedback. Black Friday sales are back so it’s a great time to pickup tool boxes. My local Home Depot has the 3 piece 2.0 set (mobile, medium, and small box) on sale for $149. They also have a 3 piece Packout set for $199 and 3 piece Ridgid set for $119. Great deals!

[@ssahmich]

Excellent review! Thank you Sir! 👍🏼

[@BruceAlanR]

My pleasure! I’m planning to review the latest TS2.0 three drawer box soon, just haven’t gotten around to it. Stay tuned! 😃

[@jaimesamano2497]

Great video... I'm adding a tote to my tough system 1.0 and didn't know if interchangeable with 2.0; thanks to your video I now know... thank you!

[@BruceAlanR]

Very welcome!

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

When I brought my Tough System 1 home, I knew that the plastic wheels would be worthless on any surface so already had a modification planned. I removed the plastic wheels and replaced them with 4.10/3.50-4 foam filled (flat free) tires available at Harbor Freight, as well as most hardware stores. I don't recall if I had to drill n change out the axle to a 5/8" rod but I did use a longer one and put a spacer behind the hub so the tire wouldn't rub. I also added a wood block across the front so it sits level. These were simple modifications and it'll roll on any surface. If I was to buy a Tough System 2, I'd do the same thing.

[@BruceAlanR]

That mod is genius! Thank you so much for sharing it. I may have to try that in the new year on both systems. Happy soon-to-be New Year!

[@MikeBrown-ii3pt]

@@BruceAlanR Glad to share. Where I come from, we call mods like this "farm boy fabrication". We do what we have to do to make things work! Happy new year to you n yours too!

[@BruceAlanR]

That’s great! Thanks again. Cheers!

[@christophercrawford2736]

Shit I might just have to try that out on mine! I have a battery charger and tape measure clip/pencil sharpener combo thing mounted to the back of my rolling box. One of the reasons I like my 1.0 and have been unsure about the 2.0 is not knowing whether or not I’d get to keep that same setup on the back or not.

[@PowerToolsForBeginners]

great review! love the sense of humor

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks so much for the kind words. Cheers!

[@mundotejeda4699]

Clear thorough review. 🙌

[@BruceAlanR]

So glad it was helpful! Cheers!

[@1966johnnywayne]

Great review, thanks.

[@BruceAlanR]

You’re welcome. Cheers!

[@JokerGregor]

Haha I love the background comments! Thanks for the video! Regards from Germany

[@BruceAlanR]

Thank you for the feedback. I’m glad the video was helpful and entertaining. I’m always concerned the sound effects will turn people off. Thanks again!

[@PFab]

@@BruceAlanR I agree. It was very entertaining. The sound bites are very different and actually fun. It's like I'm there with you and feel like we are surrounded by a small crowd of critics.

[@JokerGregor]

@@BruceAlanR Yes, very helpful! Just started my construction company and had to decide between Packout and TS2.0. Took TS2.0 because of the Carrier and Wall Holding Brackets. Definitely will use that in my van

[@BruceAlanR]

Awesome thanks!

[@BruceAlanR]

I went through the same process trying to decide if I should expand my DeWalt storage or move to the pack out. Because of the wall storage and van racking, I ultimately decided to stick with the DeWalt system.

[@Peter-rc8wy]

Outstanding video!!!!!

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words! Glad you liked it!

[@chemacb]

Great video man! Just subscribed. You mentioned drawbacks to the Dewalt Carrier dolly thing (DWST08210). What are those drawbacks? Thanks!

[@BruceAlanR]

The Utility Cart/Dolly/DS carrier is awesome; however, it’s a beast... I guess that’s a pro and a con. While it’s great for toting given the wheels and sturdiness, it’s bulky. For example wheeling it through a standard inner doorway can be a challenge... there isn’t much clearance. The other drawback is that it’s not that simple to reconfigure (requires Allen key similar to the workshop and van racking systems). If you change out your box configuration for different jobs, it’s a pain. Thanks so much for subscribing!

[@berkshirehathawayhomeservi622]

Thank you for the video. I just bought the T stak V larger deep bins for my husband to put fittings for Pex in them. I didn't see how to get the black tray out though, yoy only had one hand so I'm sure that's why. Thanks again, will probably buy more.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the feedback. Just be aware the Tstak boxes aren’t interchangeable with Toughsystem’s 1 and 2. Tstak V boxes won’t attach to the Toughsystem. If you’re referring to the Toughsystem 2.0 half-box small parts organizers that I showed, those are model DWST08020. Thanks!

[@MadeInGreatBritain]

Really useful tip for the 2.0. Grease the little hinge tabs. Stops the noise and I think it should make them last longer too

[@BruceAlanR]

Good tip! Thanks for sharing that!

[@daonstream]

great video very helpful

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad it was helpful! Cheers!

[@sendmedics]

Solid review. Best I’ve seen. Great job. Some tool review sites try so hard to be funny or gimmicky (real naaassss like) and it is so annoying.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words. Cheers!

[@alx2025]

New subscriber here. Nice, simple and right to the point video.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind feedback and for subscribing! Cheers!

[@vjxpiroevo9263]

Good to hear they are interchangeable! 1 to 2.0 and visversa

[@BruceAlanR]

DeWalt has also come out with attachments for the 2.0 boxes that allow you to connect the DeWalt T-stak boxes too.

[@1steelcobra]

I bought the 2.0 small case to upgrade from the canvas bag that came with my drill/driver kit, love that it fits both tools, batteries, the mini cases with drill and driver bits, and I can comfortably fit the mark/measure stuff in one inner bin and a set of sockets and adapters and odds and ends like countersinks and self-centering bits easily in the other. Probably going to go with the cart instead of the rolling toolbox as I expand, definitely prefer the flexibility it gives along with having a hand cart on-hand to move other stuff around.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing your experience. My favorite box is still the DS150 with it's top handle and under-lid storage. I recently saw a small 2.0 toolbox online labeled DS166, which has a handle on top, but it's a "bit sussy" (in the words of my teenager). The box only appears on DeWalt's Australian website and in Europe, which would mean the ones available in the U.S. are either imported (given DeWalt doesn't offer it in the US) or counterfeits. Regarding the DS Carrier, it is superior in it's usefulness and durability as compared to the rolling toolboxes in my opinion. It makes a good hand truck and it's wide.

[@JB-ew3wc]

The soundbites made me laugh! Good review bud.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers!

[@jackoneil7572]

Thank you!

[@BruceAlanR]

Very welcome! Happy holidays!

[@atrainace114]

Good vid. The 1.0 rolling toolbox handle is removable as well. All you have to do is take out the plastic locking blocks on the bottom of the verticle square metal tubes of the handle. The rolling box can be attached on the ds carrier backwards like the racking system, like you mentioned, as well.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that great information and your experiences. I really wish the 2.0 boxes could also fit on the DS carrier and workshop racking system, but perhaps they’ll figure it out for Toughsystem 3.0... if that is eventually a thing. 😃

[@christophercrawford2736]

Hmm 🤔 might have to check that out on mine.

[@aab8469]

Good vid thanks

[@BruceAlanR]

Welcome! Cheers!

[@satinderpal4609]

Best review in the market

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words! 👍

[@katiecourtney1]

Ive just bought the 2.0... got the extra large box and buying the screw box... by far the best box ive seen..👍👍

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing your experience! They are nice boxes. My local Home Depot just had a big sale on the small toolbox and medium toolbox bundle for $124. The latest 3 drawer box is on sale for $119 vs $144.

[@rg19garduza84]

Great video

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@stevepotter654]

This is a great review. Lots of information and the sound effects are good for my ADHD... Lol 🤣

[@BruceAlanR]

Thank you for the kind words. I’m glad the video was helpful. 😃👍

[@grahamblue100]

Also what is height from ground to top of small box when is has large ,medium and small box combo?? Thankyou. Small van requirements lol

[@BruceAlanR]

2.0 with small med and large boxes is 34 7/8” tall.

[@sonofacheron]

Comprehensive - really great review

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks so much. Glad it was helpful.

[@dumdiversaspapalbull1452]

The 1.0 definitely seems to be made of a more substantial plastic, and for what I wanted to load into the main bottom box, I don’t know why, but the 1.0 held more items. I liked the tilting handle, and I like the idea of the 1.0 main box going on the wall. I didn’t know that it wouldn’t work.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I was definitely disappointed to learn the 2.0 rolling toolbox wouldn’t go into the rack. I agree about the plastic and space. I recently added a few more boxes and went with 1.0.

[@dumdiversaspapalbull1452]

@@BruceAlanR no problem. I’m glad that you have given me a chance to be of some help to others. I gave away my 1.0, I hadn’t even used it yet, but I’m gonna get another. It’s only $50. But all of the other boxes will be 2.0. Can’t discount the locking feature of the 2.0.

[@chunho3477]

Very good video 👍👍👍

[@BruceAlanR]

Thank you for the kind words. Glad the video was helpful.

[@Mariogachuz]

Excelente vídeo gracias 👌🏼

[@BruceAlanR]

De nada 🤜🤛

[@bimble7240]

Can we have a review of the TS 2.0 DS400 box please? Does it have the vertical organisers at the back which 1.0 version has ?

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the request. I'll see if I can get that together in the next few weeks. Cheers!

[@abed_omran]

Great video thank you. Would love to see a similar review of tstak and it's compatibility with the toughsystem... I know an adaptor plate exists, but does that fit both TS 1 and 2?

[@BruceAlanR]

Great suggestion! I never invested in T-stak because it wasn’t compatible with toughsystem until DeWalt released the adaptor plate; however, If I can work it into my budget I’ll do it. Thanks again!

[@abed_omran]

@@BruceAlanR no problem, thanks for the reply!

[@kevinabbott32]

Nice video. I actually prefer the 1.0 boxes. The tool tray can fit long drill bits in and the lid storage fits way to many bits in to leave it behind with a 2.0 box. The auto latch isn’t good enough for me to leave my 1.0s behind, so the new 2.0 isn’t getting much use at the moment.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences. The 1.0 tool trays are good for long bits although I just toss my long auger bits in the bottom. 😁 I’m still using both 1.0 and 2.0, but have each setup for different jobs. The holiday sales were so good I figured I’d make my life easier by having two different rigs. Heck, I had so many tool redundancies from over the years I figured what the heck. Thanks again!

[@samuelsfoodgardens8836]

Hey great video! Really like the way you do your reviews, keepin it real! This was great, even though I'm a year behind hahhaa. I've also been considering the current deal going on by Lowe's for the CRAFTSMAN Tradestack on sale for $130. What are your thoughts? My other choice would be Ridgid or buying the Dewalt tough system 1/2 in separate parts. The large box is on sale for $45 on amazon warehouse deals right now too.

[@BruceAlanR]

I don’t know much about the craftsman boxes, but my local Home Depot’s has the 2.0 set for $149, the Milwaukee Pack set for $209, and the RIDGID set for $119. Also, HomeDepot.com has 1.0 large toolbox for $44, which is a bargain (I’ve had too many issues with DeWalt products sold through Amazon). Lots of great deals this season.

[@samuelsfoodgardens8836]

@@BruceAlanR Thanks for the heads up! Will look into it

[@btqy]

Both are good. I had 2 boxes that broke .I took snap shots . I sent them to Dewalt. They sent me 2 New ones and I was able to keep the slightly broken ones. Dewalt sent me the wrong boxes. They sent me 2 more and had me keep the wrong ones so I got 4 New boxes.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that experience!

[@billyrich6537]

Another great video man! Thanks for putting in the time. I'm considering 2.0 or the Packout. Thoughts?

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words. I try to be thorough. The pack out is a little bigger, equally as rugged, a bit more stable when loaded up in my opinion, but it comes at a higher price point. The packout system is definitely nice and I’m sure you’d be happy with it or the Toughsystem 2.0. Happy holidays!

[@KallenSC]

you can find on YT compare video.....Milwaukee cost more, but it's much more versitale, got more boxes type, and have better latches, and together boxes(fit better) hold better, Dewalt have better wheels, more quiet and tough, and dissconnecting boxes are easy and quicker than Packout.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing this info! I’m sure folks will find it helpful. Cheers!

[@TadWolfe]

Packout

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the vote for the packout.

[@ranelranzbongayan7132]

Godbless your heart ❤️ very nice video.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@mattwilliamson1714]

Do you know if there is any way to connect a Large ToughCase®+ container (like the DWAMF160) to either of these systems?

[@BruceAlanR]

Unfortunately the ToughCase+ system will not connect to with ToughSystem 1 or 2.0. ToughCase+ will only attach to TSTAK (same as Craftsman System, Versastack). It’s a shame DeWalt hasn’t made all these similarly branded/named interlocking cases interchangeable.

[@christophercrawford2736]

@@BruceAlanR they really should’ve made a way for the ToughCases to attach to the ToughSystem. I think their half cases were a half-assed solution and the 2.0 system as it stands is pretty meager.

[@jammywesty91]

Have you found that the holes the tabs fit in to hold the lid open on the 2.0 have had the front lip broken off from repeated use?

[@BruceAlanR]

I have not experienced that with any of my 2.0 boxes.

[@bluemantom77]

I want to point out I used two metal washers on my ds450 rolling box latch and two machine screws and I secured the. Latch from dislodging from the box hope that information helps

[@BruceAlanR]

Good info! Thanks!

[@bluemantom77]

For me I decided the 1.0 tough system works for my needs and if I choose to I can buy the upgraded I have a DS 450 rolling box and ds 400 xl box and two ds 130 boxes and I find that meets my needs I also have a second DS 450 rolling box I use for overflow storage along with my late father's Craftsman toolbox and if I really want I have a husky tool box from 12 years ago made better than now I have plenty of storage options

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that. The only thing I prefer with 2.0 are the quick latches. Other than the latches, I prefer my 1.0 boxes any day.

[@Freddie2598]

I have 4 of the system 1 setups with 5 boxes on each I’m sure I exceed the weight limits but haven’t had any problems with any of them and as far as hurting my hands on the latches 🤣🤣 MAN UP PEOPLE

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! Black Friday sales are back so it’s a great time to pickup tool boxes. My local Home Depot has the 3 piece 2.0 set (mobile, medium, and small box) on sale for $149. They also have a 3 piece Packout set for $199 and 3 piece Ridgid set for $119. Great deals!

[@SavageVoyageur]

If you are worried about the hinge making noise when closing, just put a tiny dab of synthetic grease called super lube on the 4 stops. Smooth as silk.

[@BruceAlanR]

Great advice! Thanks!

[@John-mv7wu]

What about the DCB104 4 port charger will it lock to the new system

[@BruceAlanR]

Perhaps someone else will chime in on this. I know the power station requires a 1.0 box, but I’m unsure about the DCB104 charger.

[@Tiersmoke92555]

Can you do a comparison of drawer boxes across the major brands?

[@BruceAlanR]

I’d love too. Unfortunately, I might need a second mortgage to buy the boxes. I’ve stuck with DeWalt this far and added a few Ridgid boxes given they’re solid and less expensive. 😅

[@bimble7240]

Hello Bruce, after buying a System 2.0 DS300 and DS150 to try (promo price was irresistible) to compare with equivalent 1.0 here are a few observations. 1) I don't usually lock boxes together (just stack them, they stay put in the van) but I will admit that the new catches do work well if you want this. If you don't it is a nuisance. It doesn't makes sense to delete the top handle on the DS150 as this is the type of box most likely to be at the top of the stack, I would think. 2) No top handle on the DS150. I hate this. I have 8 x DS150s (2 - Plumbing tools 2 - Electrician tools 1 - small general tools 1 - screws 1 - fixings 1 - power tools. Most are carried with the top handle because if I use the side handle the contents gets completely disorganised in a heap at one side. 3) No storage drawers in the lid of DS150. Major setback. I use these for lots of small components and tools. I find them very useful. 4) Stability. I often use my DS300 as a "hop up" to stand on when I need a bit more height. The extra width of the 2.0 makes it wobble, and looking underneath you will see that the feet of the box are inset on one side which causes this, so it feels unsafe. 5) Occasionally I use the toughsystem trolley to take carry the boxes if I can't park right outside the job, and it works well. The brackets on the back of system 1.0 allow me to lock all the boxes on to the trolley when I take a tea/lunch break and they can't be removed or opened (top one has to be locked though). Surprised they deleted this. Penny - pinching ? 6) The extra width of the new 300 makes it more awkward to carry with top handle. This seems trivial but try it. Load a system 1 ds300 and a system 2 ds300 and carry one on each side. The new one rubs against your leg. It is bloody annoying. By load I mean at least 30lbs. 7) No air vent screw in the new boxes. These are used to let air into the box to equalise the pressure. Because the box is, or should be, airtight you might find in winter that you put the boxes away overnight and in the morning you can't open the lids because the pressure has dropped inside and caused a partial vacuum. The vent allows you to let air in. The improved seals are probably going to make this worse. I look forward to the videos showing people pouring warm water (pissing?) onto the boxes to get them to open. 8) No full length tote trays on the 300 and 400. This is a showstopper for me. I have 3 x 300s and 3 x 400s and I use tote trays in all of them. I love them. So I won't be buying anymore system 2 boxes, but I will be getting some used system 1 boxes when I need more. I absolutely love my system 1 boxes which is why the system 2s are such a let down. P.S in case you're wondering, I use Bosch 18v tools with L Boxxes which is why I don't have more DS boxes. The L boxxes are nowhere near as good but that is another story.

[@BruceAlanR]

Wow! What an amazing and detailed comment! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on the 2.0 boxes. I’m sure folks will find your insights helpful. have to agree the lack of handle on the DS150 2.0 is a huge disappointment. As far as small tool boxes go, the System 1 DS150 is my favorite small box and I have a few as well. Brilliant insight regarding the air vents too. I’ve never had an issue getting boxes open but it makes total sense if there are drastic changes in temperature. Thanks again!

[@carloshurley4477]

I found that the lid seal is made of a foam material on the 1.0 and more of rubber or polyurethane material on the 2.0. The plastic material of the rest of the box on the 1.0 version appears to be more brittle and it cracks easily when compared to the 2.0.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that. As you've pointed out, the plastic of the 2.0 seems more forgiving and the 1.0 is stiffer. Regarding the seals, my 1.0 and 2.0 feel like the same poly material with placement and thickness being different. I wonder if the material degrades or dries out over time. I guess we'll find out. 😃

[@respli8240]

Anyone have ideas to fix my issue with the handle being too short? It feels weird rolling it I have to reach like an inch down just to roll them and I'm not tall

[@BruceAlanR]

Perhaps someone will have a recommendation. I don't experience that issue and I'm 6' tall... but I do have really long arms.

[@LemonySnicket-EUC]

I'm keeping my 1.0 boxes and the metal 2 wheel hand truck set up.

[@BruceAlanR]

That’s my go to as well.

[@RyanCobern]

Is there a way to lock the 1.0 boxes together without getting the dolly?

[@BruceAlanR]

Without the dolly, the only thing I can think of would be using a cable lock through the front hole of all the connected boxes. Not a great solution since you won’t be able to open the boxes.

[@SofaKingMelo]

Are the 2.0 Rolling Toolbox and the 2.0 Extra Large Toolbox essentially the same, besides the wheels?

[@BruceAlanR]

Yes although you get a bit more space with the 2.0 extra large tool box since you don’t have the wheel indents.

[@SofaKingMelo]

@@BruceAlanR thanks Bruce. Just purchased the wheeled XL 2.0 today, and there is a slight indent. Thankfully, the yellow tool tray inserts still fit, so it's not a huge loss. Either way, big fan of the whole kit. Thanks for the review video. Solid work.

[@BruceAlanR]

👍

[@christinecedras8212]

I just got the DS400 which comes with a inner vertical hand tool storage. Is it possible to remove this tool storage?

[@BruceAlanR]

I know what you're talking about, and I've never heard of a way to remove the tool holder. Perhaps someone else will chime in.

[@bimble7240]

The vertical organiser will just pull up and come out in one piece. Don't through it away though. Someone will need it. Here in the UK dealers often sell off DS400s cheap because they came with power tools in as part of a deal. They sell the tools separately and end up with a box with no tote or organiser which they sell off. If you were in the UK I would buy it. P.S. Why don't you need it? Best place to put chisels and scrapers and other sharp edged tools.

[@ticrisc1142]

@@bimble7240 I am a jewelry designer and use the box to transport my beads, thus the tool holder limits the space. Dewalt was amazing in replacing the box minus the vertical organizer. My father was very pleased to receive said box :)

[@user-mp4wg8lb2t]

Спасибо, буду брать пакаут

[@BruceAlanR]

👍

[@eclecticgentleman]

I have a 1.0 system with the heavy duty metal dolly. I also have some 2.0 boxes I bought individually. This black Friday I bought a 3 piece 2.0 system with the bottom box made to the plastic dolly. I hate it!!! When you leave it on your truck and it rains the lid holds water. If you open the lid it all falls into the box... I noticed in your video the plastic dolly on system 1 shifted back when the lid opened. They shouldn't have changed that

[@BruceAlanR]

I relate to your story about water running off the lid of 2.0 into the box. Happened to me two. I agree they should have left the tilt on the dolly too.

[@zarmindrow5831]

I'm going to wait for the 4.0.

[@BruceAlanR]

LOL

[@bimble7240]

Talking about warranties, DeWalt make a lot of noise about lifetime warranties but here in the UK they only give 12 months. When asked why they said "they never break so it doesn't matter". If it doesn't matter why only 12 months? Guess what? I have had 2 x DS400s with broken side handles outside of the 12 month warranty. They can't handle the weight when full. so now I only use the top handle. I had to buy a new DS400 then take the broken one back after 3 months and claim a refund using the receipt from the new one.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that info. I agree. And of course these boxes can break! Not sure what that person at DeWalt was thinking. Perhaps they've never put tools in theirs or thrown the boxes off a truck or watched them tumble down a flight of stairs.

[@electronicfury]

Does anyone know if they plan to release a 2.0 DS100 clear lid organiser? Was about to buy more DS100 boxes as mine are full. I like my DS100 boxes, although I would like the cups to come with dividers like the 2.0 halfboxes. The halfboxes are too small for my use.

[@BruceAlanR]

I wish I had an answer. I like the DS100 boxes too and agree the half boxes are too small.

[@electronicfury]

Also the half boxes don't fit the workshop wall racking, so they wouldn't really work well for me anyway.

[@BruceAlanR]

Same here! I like to rack the cases so I have enough room to grab a tool or supply when I need it.

[@TidalWaveDan]

I’m here to find out what the yellow thing on the top of 2.0 does.

[@BruceAlanR]

The yellow tab is for the 1/2 box organizers... see here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2SXi59pmsl8a5o

[@myshots101]

So is the tstak a different system altogether? That's just confusing to me. Since I keep hearing it works in some things and not others. I just got the hart system from Walmart and it has a few similarities with the system 2 from dewalt. As for the background sounds, you can leave those off. It's a bit distracting and hard to hear what you're saying at times.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for the feedback. Tstak is a completely different system and is not compatible with systems 1.0 and 2.0. Absolutely confusing!

[@christophercrawford2736]

Think if it like Milwaukee’s M12 and M18 tools. Just cuz they’re both made by the same company doesn’t mean they’re interchange. That’s what Tstak and Toughsystem are like, M12 vs M18. While ToughSystem 1.0 and 2.0 are like Flexvolt batteries. They’re interchangeable between the 20v and 60v tools. Hope that clears up the confusion.

[@geoffcon100]

The best way to open the 2.0 latch is to put one hand on to of the latch and then open it. This way it stops it acting like a mousetrap.

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! Both 1 and 2.0 are like mousetraps. Great advice, thanks!

[@christophercrawford2736]

Yeah I second that. There’s a way to place your hand to control it so it doesn’t snap like a mousetrap.

[@grahamblue100]

Does the bottom box come away grom the wheels?

[@BruceAlanR]

The wheels do not come away from the extra large rolling tool boxes. If you want the extra large tool boxes without wheels the model numbers are DWST08204 (system 1) and DWST08400 (system 2.0).

[@grahamblue100]

@@BruceAlanR No prob....what is height from ground to top of small box when its the large, nedium and small combo?? I have a small van 🙈

[@BruceAlanR]

2.0 with small med and large boxes is 34 7/8” tall.

[@diddybarron9771]

Anyone any idea on where to find the axle to the ToughSystem 1? Plastic wheels broke on me, bought new wheels but can’t seem to find the axle on dewalts website Any help would be gladly appreciated as I’m breaking my back carrying my boxes around 🤣😅

[@BruceAlanR]

Please post back if you find a solution since I'm sure other folks will find it helpful. Also, curious to know what wheels you got. I think these boxes have a lifetime warranty so you may want to reach out to DeWalt.

[@christophercrawford2736]

Another commenter on this video mentioned he got wheels and an axle from harbor freight and put that on his 1.0 box.

[@garvielloken3929]

quality vid

[@BruceAlanR]

Glad it was helpful. 👍

[@ALTONBENALLY]

I bought two new 2.0 2-Drawer Boxes and planned to stack a 1.0 small box on top, but unfortunately it will not click on both sides. Only one side will click. It seems the 2.0 is slightly too wide.

[@BruceAlanR]

Could it be the boxes are defective? I can’t say I’ve experienced that other than if I really max out a box and it bulges in which case it doesn’t want to clip in easily.

[@ALTONBENALLY]

@@BruceAlanR TURNS OUT that the two screws that hold the locking mechanism on each side weren't tightened down at all on both boxes. I screwed them down and the old 1.0 boxes locked in perfectly.

[@BruceAlanR]

@@ALTONBENALLYThat’s good news!

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

v2 looks good on paper- until you see the problems. Ears sticking up means you cannot put a worksurface on top. People report the stayopen catch breaks. While I normally go DeWalt, this system is so far behind Packout it is not for me. You need to be able to separate boxes from the front- stacked next to each other there is no room to reach the catches.

[@BruceAlanR]

Great insights! Thanks for sharing that!

[@LI0N0FTHETRIBE0FJUDAH]

How many power tools will the box hold

[@BruceAlanR]

That's a hard question to answer since ever person will have different tools. My boxes are loaded with everything from drills, drivers, bits, screws, chucks, saws (multiple sized circulars, sawzalls, jigsaw), blades, sanders, grinders, oscillating tool, and of course hand tools (screw drivers, wrenches), etc., etc.

[@xipkore]

looks like version 1 toughsystem has better water drainage than system 2, when talking about opening at 3m mark. This makes a huge difference in rusting your tools.

[@BruceAlanR]

Honestly, both 1 and 2 can dump water into the boxes. If there’s water on top, I just use the blower to clean them off before opening.

[@alexandrpopov8326]

What are those shoes?

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! I’ve actually gotten that question before. They’re WOLVERINE MEN'S CHISEL MID-CUT STEEL-TOE WORK BOOT. I actually didn’t like them when I first saw them, but I got them on close out for $70. I just saw them again online for $75. Really comfortable and I may get another pair.

[@loucifer4205]

The 2.0 also makes a small box with a handle on top

[@BruceAlanR]

Do you know the model #? I recently saw pre-orders for a Toughsystem 2.0 three drawer toolbox at Acme Tools and ToolNut, which I'm interested in checking out.

[@loucifer4205]

@@BruceAlanR ds165 dwst83293-1

[@BruceAlanR]

Interesting! The model you’ve noted (The small toolbox with the handle on top, which is reminiscent of TS 1’s DS150) doesn’t appear on the DeWalt U.S. website. It is actually the DS166 and I’ve only seen it listed on DeWalt’s Australian and European websites. That leads me to believe the DS166 isn’t a US offering and is being imported by various U.S. websites offering it.

[@PFab]

Any deals on the upper stacks. I bought a touch system with the 7 tools and it came with the original though box. I would like more of these tools and organizers. Also I bought a bit set from DeWalt and thought it would fit in this kit. DWAMF160 It does not fit at all. I wish there was a way....

[@BruceAlanR]

Home Depot (instore and online) still has the small and medium ToughSystem 1 boxes on sale for $30 and $40, respectively. You can also get the the small box on Amazon for $30, as well as the Xtra large toolbox with no wheels (DWST08204) for $45, and the open tote (DWST08205) for $30. Regarding the ToughCase+ system (DWAMF160), it won't connect to ToughSystem 1 or 2.0 as you've realized. The ToughCase+ system will only attach to TSTAK (same as Craftsman System, Versastack). It’s a shame DeWalt hasn’t made all these similarly branded/named interlocking cases interchangeable and attachable. They need better marketing!

[@PFab]

@@BruceAlanR I hate when companies change up systems like this. It's like a production run only dedicated to one specific system and all that money invested in it. Not only does it cost the manufacturer to change things but also the end user. Making the product useless. And wasteful. Imagine if all the cordless brand companies all invested into the same battery for each product they produced. Now all these tools would use the same platform. Creating a stable cheap option. Now all you have to worry about is the actual tool. No more random chargers, hundreds of batteries brands and looking for deals. And some brands like Makita use 2 18v batteries. Which would increase the tools performance. Today there's basically 2 types of lithium batteries. But every brand has their own version. And they also come in various voltages. Take Milwaukee. M18 and m12. They could easily build smaller batteries for both those lines.

[@BruceAlanR]

I completely agree! If nothing else there should be cheap adapters so different product lines can work together and don’t go to waste. I remember when DeWalt moved from the 18V to 20max platform (it was more a repackaging and rebranding exercise than a breakthrough.. but at least they eventually released that goofy battery adapter). And I love the idea of one battery for all tools so that manufacturers would have to focus on the tools and less on power delivery. I remember seeing some adapter system on eBay or Amazon that allowed interchanging Milwaukee M18, Ryobi, Makita, and DeWalt battery packs on different brands of tools, but I’d be afraid to try it. I’d be pretty annoyed if some $25 adapter blew up one of $200 tools.

[@PFab]

@@BruceAlanR so from what I hear, Milwaukee trade marked the "18v" and created a revenue from it. So any company who uses the 18v system has to pay royalties to Milwaukee. ( Marketing scam) Most likely why DeWalt moved out of that number and created the 20v system. But I'm reality it's still like an 18v system. But Makita, Ryobi, Rigid and a few others are still using this and are forced to pay these fees to Milwaukee. The red king knew this system would be used vastly with other tools because the battery packs are going to be the most efficient in this voltage.

[@PFab]

Makita, also as far as I know, is the only company using a battery protection system in the battery pack itself. Unlike Milwaukee. They use their protections in the tool itself. Not sure about DeWalt.

[@loucifer323]

They make a top box with a handle on top on the 2.0

[@BruceAlanR]

That’s awesome! Would you happen to know the model number? The only top box I know of with a handle on top is DS150, but that is part of the 1.0 line. Thanks for the info.

[@bkluntz]

Sys #1

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks sharing your preference.

[@71Splinter]

3:12 yes but 2.0 will leave water in if the box is wet when you open it like that, the 1.0 doesnt, bugs me

[@BruceAlanR]

Yeah, I usually towel things off to avoid spillage. Thanks for sharing that.

[@larryjanson4011]

not all plastics are the same. were i was working for decades the co started using these "small" (fits three wide in a trailer) plastic pallets. two styles were show to us. one was nest-able, not the other. the co went with the nesting kind. but the problem. was the mtr they were made of. the non nest-able the plastic gave a bit. the nest-able was far more ridged. well the nest-able style keep getting the legs snapped off. missing one leg made them junk, as in none usable. the non nest-able style would bend long before snapping off. (forklift, power jacks, just dropping, etc). both would have done this job, weight, etc.

[@BruceAlanR]

Interesting! Thank you for sharing that.

[@jesusjesus1327]

Very funny background voices lol

[@BruceAlanR]

I try to make the videos informative and entertaining. Sometimes it works. Other times?... not so much. 😃

[@rickthain8538]

Just purchased 2.0. I too didn’t like cracking when opening lid. Sprayed silicone on hinge and no more sound. Still not that impressed with them.

[@BruceAlanR]

That’s a good idea. I’ll have to try silicone on the hinge. Thanks!

[@UVJ_Scott]

System 2 if you have a tool box on top, the lid won’t stay open, you have to hold it open. I returned it.

[@BruceAlanR]

That is correct. Thanks for sharing that.

[@jlai3861]

If it rained and you open the lid of 2.0 box, all the water fall right in to your box, system 1.0 won't do that.

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that. I find it to be less of an issue with 1.0, but it still seems to happen.

[@guilhermeleonidasdasilva1158]

Quero comprar uma onde que eu vou comprar

[@BruceAlanR]

Compré el Sistema 1 y 2.0 en The Home Depot.

[@recyclespinning9839]

Tip for all the companies. First one designs their system so you can get to all the boxes without unlatching them will get my business!! . When your doing maintenance/remodeling/ rentals, etc you need to be able to link them together quickly and you need to be able to get your tools without taking them all apart again. A lot of times I will be working in a customers home, or apartment and I don't want to spread out all the boxes. There is a small system on market , but I don't think will work for a pro for durability . I.M.O.

[@BruceAlanR]

Amen!

[@richardkettlewell7333]

2.0 bottom box pain when working outside, when you open it tips water into box. The old one didn't

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing that. I’ve actually found water on top to be an issue with both 1 and 2.0. I usually grab a blower to remove water prior to opening them. It’s a pain, but sure beats water on my tools.

[@b-2466]

Is that Mark Cuban narrating?

[@BruceAlanR]

Ha! I couldn't even afford a ticket to see the Mavericks play. 😃

[@user-ub3mh5gv2q]

Обзор классный! Жалко только, не по русски. Не понял нихера.

[@BruceAlanR]

Сожалею. Я добавил русские субтитры, но они могут не иметь смысла. 😃

[@ignacymat]

i have 1.0 system and must say that festool systainers are far, far better.

[@BruceAlanR]

Cool! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience.

[@mikeandrew1156]

2.0 bottom box should open like 1.0 so any water on the top wont go into the box.

[@BruceAlanR]

Agreed!

[@prouserprouser9646]

VERSION 2 IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE OVER £200.00 HERE IN UK !!!

[@BruceAlanR]

YIKES! That is a lot for the modest upgrades.

[@nomisvagabond139]

The best boxes for your tools 👳🏿 full stop ! Hola a Todo albanils de la mundo .

[@BruceAlanR]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Cheers!

[@lev2727]

7:08 Great for storing small parts? Seriously dude, not everyone is one of these IQ 60 construction workers, these can be great for people who mostly use small tools.

[@BruceAlanR]

Fair enough! Thanks for sharing your experience.