Don't use a multimeter like this!

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DiagnoseDan

DiagnoseDan

Жыл бұрын

In this video we diagnose a Peugeot 107 (Toyota Aygo / Citroen c1)
with a b2799 Immo faultcode. (crank no start)
We learn that a continuity test isn't always the best test.....
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@paulburroughs1313
@paulburroughs1313 Жыл бұрын
Dan, you make diagnosis seem so easy. The sign of a true professional! Brilliant video!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment
@mattlawton4715
@mattlawton4715 Жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan so did this customer pay for the other garage incompetency.
@andonsterjo6973
@andonsterjo6973 Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen anybody to diagnose a car like you. you are in a different league, and thank you for your time to film and post them for us 👏👏👏👏👏👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks that really means a lot!
@marksantos2276
@marksantos2276 Жыл бұрын
It is such a learning experience when you watch Dan. Makes you WANT to trace an electrical fault
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve Жыл бұрын
Some rather rough probing of those terminals! Not the only one opened!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
You've seen that right, i dont know what they were thinking 🤷
@tom53332
@tom53332 Жыл бұрын
It's really great to see someone at work who actually knows what they're doing, every time I take my car to a shop 9/10 times I can be sure nobody knows and nobody cares and just start replacing random parts.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we also see that alot, but there are also alot of fantastic workshops out there with amazing techs.
@zeroalcohol
@zeroalcohol Жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan what’s the name of music at 00:51?
@thetraindriver01
@thetraindriver01 Жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I am getting messages from you for winning a prize, is the you or a scam?
@funnycompilations3396
@funnycompilations3396 Жыл бұрын
@@thetraindriver01 It'a a scam, to verify click on the person sending you messages profile and you will probably see an empty profile.
@mattlawton4715
@mattlawton4715 Жыл бұрын
Yes true most mechanics are people who didn't make it through school so that's why they are mechanics and don't care. Not all tho this guy is great. 👍
@larsbr4519
@larsbr4519 Жыл бұрын
If you check any signal path, always check for connection to ground or positive. After the connection check. Would have saved a lot of time and work.
@madds6678
@madds6678 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, video should be titled I fucked up didn’t do 3 step continuity test spent hours when a minute was all that was needed 😂
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
That's right! 👍💪
@RideBikes_Walkplaces
@RideBikes_Walkplaces 12 күн бұрын
​@@madds6678hi mate! What's the 3 steps of a 3 step continuity test? Thanks.
@fir3w4lk3r
@fir3w4lk3r Жыл бұрын
Nice! When a wire is floating (both ends on air). Always test it against power and ground. And against other wire ends of the same harnes. Always.
@madds6678
@madds6678 Жыл бұрын
Yep absolutely, seems like we’re the only ones who understand that 🤔 everyone else banging on about a load test & even Dan himself should have done those 3 steps first & then would have found it straight away. Continuity testing is ok if you follow the those 3 steps then if ok next step load the wire. Sadly most people just do a open check. Whilst a resistance check isn’t bullet proof it’s still the starting point.
@fir3w4lk3r
@fir3w4lk3r Жыл бұрын
@@madds6678 I also say to my students never to use the continuity mode. After a while they start ignoring the reading and and pay attention only to the buzzer...
@simduino
@simduino Жыл бұрын
You both are absolutely right. I made a comment earlier about this, seems we think alike. The fault could have been found straight away with only the multimeter, no need for test light or scope.
@simduino
@simduino Жыл бұрын
@@satunnainenkatselija4478 We're talking about floating wires here. With connected wires unless you know what signals are to be expected a multimeter is not a lot of good and in some cases may even provoke more problems, in that case a scope is required.
@d.a.2742
@d.a.2742 Жыл бұрын
Great job Dan ....a really good lesson for any mechanic or do it yourselfer to learn ....and then the follow-up with the actual culprit responsible for the short !
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
I couldn't end the video without showing that!
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 Жыл бұрын
Next week it is back when they still can't find the short in the junction box. Complete with spare junction box. I was wondering if they wanted it back to reassemble the mess themselves. I hate dashboard nuts, getting them off is bad, getting them on the studs is a nightmare.
@Ygr3ku
@Ygr3ku Жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan Imagine that customer has to pay hundreds of euros for this, only to find out it was a connector bent open touching the ground. He'll still get it cheap. I got my piston 2 melted somehow, piston rings are visible from top (or at least the fire ring) and that will cost me a new engine. and a few thousand euro. (I've got the news yesterday, Friday 13. What a day that was...) PS: Great diagnosis Dan. I love your way of thinking "outside the box"!
@highlandminger4009
@highlandminger4009 Жыл бұрын
Never too old to learn. Great quality. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@fuzzs8970
@fuzzs8970 Жыл бұрын
Hi Think someone is using your channel to invite your viewers on telegram
@GryfoGT
@GryfoGT Жыл бұрын
Hello Dan, as a hobbyist electrician each time I check for continuity in a wire I always check also for shorts to GND/supply especially when the line goes to multiple connects and points where it can be pinched. The continuity test is not the best tool for this … but do not blame the tool .. some (most of) times the user does now how to use it in the context to get all the relevant data. Keep up the good work 👍🏻👍🏻
@alanqtrmaine8175
@alanqtrmaine8175 Жыл бұрын
That should've been step 2 of the techs wiring check. Also I agree that the dvm is perfectly capable of checking for cross shorts. Don't need a test light for that. Also an overlay harness would've fixed it without having to hook up a meter. Multiple quick dealer fixes without all the swapping.
@petkohubenov3088
@petkohubenov3088 11 ай бұрын
Yeap ,we always check short to positeve and ground not only wire broke,becouse we know what we doing. This is the only problems ..no need of scope here.
@uploadJ
@uploadJ 9 ай бұрын
@@alanqtrmaine8175 Well, a test light will or won't light depending if there is a resistance to gnd or +v, like a chunk of rust in the back of a connector ... that's where 500 mA from a test bulb works well - you KNOW a short to gnd is truly a short to gnd.
@oliverchiwoko8189
@oliverchiwoko8189 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Den you are Brilliant thanks again I learned
@Filozoph
@Filozoph Жыл бұрын
Imagine working on faulty wiring with pretty well known issues and not checking short to ground… This should be second thing to do, right after continuity test.
@madds6678
@madds6678 Жыл бұрын
Bang on 👍🏻 naughty Dan tripped himself up & fell down the rabbit hole 😂
@danthecarman8440
@danthecarman8440 Жыл бұрын
@@madds6678 The whole reason for the video is to follow in the previous technicians steps to see where he went wrong. Of course Dan knows that he should of done a load test much earlier.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
It should have been indeed.
@moshesheckel7369
@moshesheckel7369 Жыл бұрын
@@madds6678 I'm sure Dan has forgotten more than you'll ever know. Dan tripped nothing.
@Gearhead90
@Gearhead90 Жыл бұрын
The man worked the steps and got the outcome and that’s what you do in this ever evolving headache of a trade
@talbisaleh6862
@talbisaleh6862 Жыл бұрын
I have been following you for a while, and I learned a lot from you, especially new cars. In Algeria, we still use 1990 cars.
@dustcommander100
@dustcommander100 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive!!! I am a former industrial technician, and I can't tell you how many times my coworkers missed a problem because they were in the habit of testing everything with ground as a reference. On ungrounded systems, they were lost. In this case, testing to ground was the best path, and you took it to the next level. It goes to show that you have to be open to testing things in more than one way!
@theholeymoley1
@theholeymoley1 Жыл бұрын
Great one! Between yourself and Eric O, there's no stopping your ability to fix the un-fixable!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@KaKi_AutoDiag
@KaKi_AutoDiag Жыл бұрын
Good job Dan. Basics are basics and sometimes unfortunately we did forget the basics and that's what happens. Thanks a lot.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
True😁 Thanks for watching!
@ianrichardson3228
@ianrichardson3228 Жыл бұрын
First thing I would check is the phone listings, under ‘D’ for Dan! Well done, as always Dan!
@dmurf4156
@dmurf4156 28 күн бұрын
I’m having trouble trying to figure out why D. Dan only has two hundred and some subs…..COME ON PEOPLE THIS IS THE VERY TOP TIER IN AUTOMOTIVE DIAGNOSTIC VIDEOS…Diag Dan deserves a lot more support from you hundreds of thousands of viewers….that said! Another great video lesson. I’ve been doing this 35+ years and STILL learning especially with DIAGNOSIS DAN…Thanks again man….
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are priceless! Super helpful! PLEASE keep them coming, good sir!!! Love from California!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Fred 👍😁
@OilBaron100
@OilBaron100 Жыл бұрын
How did you donate $50 to Dan’s video?
@m.b.smoshitoa8325
@m.b.smoshitoa8325 Жыл бұрын
@@OilBaron100 I never did it but I think I once saw it. You go under the video where there is things like download, save , share etc. There is thanks button there, which simply is donate button. Check out you will see it. This man deserves a lot MBS Moshitoa south Africa
@fredsalter1915
@fredsalter1915 Жыл бұрын
@@OilBaron100 The "Thanks" button
@SE45CX
@SE45CX Жыл бұрын
Again great job Dan. There are many KZbinrs that do repair videos. What sets you apart from them is your crystal clear focused approach. I think mechanics work is very diverse. One time you have to use brute force to install a steering knuckle to a shock absorber. And the other time you need the inspect your work with a magnifying glas. I really think the previous mechanic should have done that.
@jeffryblackmon4846
@jeffryblackmon4846 Жыл бұрын
A lot depends upon the electrical diagnosis experience of the previous tech. Dan came through. I'm glad the customer did not ask for new wires to be run and the problem would not have been found... we'd not have a great video experience!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
The Automotive repair industry changed alot! Todays techs need to be experts in Software, telephones, navigation, bluetooth, apps, internet, ect...
@SE45CX
@SE45CX Жыл бұрын
@@Diagnosedan I'm a DIY mechanic and I have an aversion against the abundance of software in modern cars. I believe it's designed to break down on you after the dealers warranty expires to have you buy another car. So I prefer to work on my two 90s cars where I have full documentation on in books.
@The_Redkween
@The_Redkween Жыл бұрын
@@SE45CX that’s why the old cars are so expensive, now: everyone had that same idea.
@xxwookey
@xxwookey Жыл бұрын
@@SE45CX Software is fine so long as you get the software to fix and replace, just like any other part. The problem is the keys and the proprietary control which is so much easier to lock down with software so car companies have been taking advantage. I'm about to retire my entirely mechanical 25-year old van and yeah I'm not very keen on all the proprietary shite my expensive new car/van is going to come with. In many ways software is easier to fix than hardware - it's certainly easier to reconfigure, and interrogate, so it's not a bad thing in itself. The problem is the closed implementations we have in almost all cars.
@letmein2460
@letmein2460 Жыл бұрын
No matter how "book smart" you are it comes down to experience. You have once again done an amazing job.
@jasonputtock4428
@jasonputtock4428 Жыл бұрын
The multi meter is just fine in your diagnoisis. You confirmed the wire is NOT broken but it is exposed somewhere. I always test for short to ground when i do this because i DONT have the scope. So multi i have and normally works for me. You took the exact same steps as i would have if i had all tools like you. So respect to you. Thank you for the great video.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment its appriciated 👍
@richardhintonracing
@richardhintonracing Жыл бұрын
A simple test light is your best friend on many occasions . That was a difficult one that needed lots of prior experience - very impressive .
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@marcioreis2648
@marcioreis2648 Жыл бұрын
Having the right tools, good common sense, knowledge and experience equals to solved it again. Awesome job Dan.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁👍
@truth4reel
@truth4reel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the teaching again. If in doubt I always load test with a test light or halogen bulb. Continuity tests are great for tracing wires, but circuits need to be loaded to prove that they can carry the amps.
@dannyoreilly6571
@dannyoreilly6571 10 ай бұрын
That was brilliant I'm now in college myself in Ireland and the instructor is old . Older than me I'm 40 getting me papers to be qualified in my dream job but I'll never just do a continuity test again must get this light Ur videos are brilliant well explained not rushed and easy to follow
@timd1833
@timd1833 Жыл бұрын
With the dash all ripped up and the wiring harness under the hood opened, I hope more problems don't appear once it is all reassembled. Great video!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
As long as its all put back together the right way it should be fine😉
@stevenprestwich521
@stevenprestwich521 Жыл бұрын
Says alot when other shops bring them to you, excellent video
@jizwinkle9822
@jizwinkle9822 Жыл бұрын
Diagnose Dan is the frickin man! Nobody even comes close to what he does and how well he shows us how he does it. Is there anyone else even half as good? I've never seen anyone. Dan is so far ahead. No doubt the immo isn't coded to the key. Start then stop is usually a failed immo.
@alexl.b5154
@alexl.b5154 11 ай бұрын
Dan you are the BEST DIAGNOST TECHNICAL
@TheFlyingBusman
@TheFlyingBusman Жыл бұрын
I guess, being an auto electrician, I was straight onto this and my early thoughts were whilst there was continuity, it didn’t mean there was not a short to ground. The moment the scope came out it confirmed my thoughts. As an end note, care needs to be taken probing connectors, especially on Japanese motors which do tend to use thinner wiring and more densely populated connectors. So easy to damage a pin. Well diagnosed Dan.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@steve6375
@steve6375 Жыл бұрын
That connector seems to have multiple shorts - look at the other connections too! The brown end wire looks shorted too. Someone must have been very heavy handed with test probes!
@mandymoo7406
@mandymoo7406 Жыл бұрын
Best one you've done Dan,weirdly the wife said her c1 same year wouldn't start just before Xmas,I never even thought it was the immobiliser issue and thought she was having a girly moment,will see if she breaks down and then I will get lots of man points😀 for recovery and fixing🤣🤣
@alexanderSydneyOz
@alexanderSydneyOz Жыл бұрын
Even more given that, if that occurs and you fix it, you will have removed the effing dashboard and reinstalled, in the process! Make sure she sees that... :)
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha🤣🤣👍
@sainburys
@sainburys Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the mansplaining!
@tomthumb3085
@tomthumb3085 11 ай бұрын
This was a really interesting lesson and it helped me solve a similar problem with my Fiat Ducato. I found and fixed the intermittent problem that has annoyed me for a long time and it only took me a half hour to fix and no cost at all. Thank you Dan, it’s brilliant now.
@richardharker2775
@richardharker2775 Жыл бұрын
When others give up on the job Diagnose Dan comes to the rescue. There aren't many like you Dan.
@lucasoorschot780
@lucasoorschot780 Жыл бұрын
So, as kind of an "extended continuity test" for wires that should be totally floating, do also a continuity check (though with some resistance like your test lamp) wire-to-ground and wire-to-12V. A very interesting sneaky problem. Great detective work!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@alanreid3063
@alanreid3063 Жыл бұрын
My first thought, a continuity test has no resitance, so could be breaking down under load, although this turned out to be a signal wire so not a problem. There again I was an electrician so I would have checked for earth fault 1st thing you can miss so much with just a continuity test
@norisboren5402
@norisboren5402 Жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the wire smoking or burned up with that improper contact to ground ?
@henrikloiske8572
@henrikloiske8572 Жыл бұрын
You are definetly a diagnose wizard...amazing work as always...keep up the good work
@curtisroberts9137
@curtisroberts9137 Жыл бұрын
That's why you gotta love oscilloscopes. I don't know how anyone works on modern cars without them. Without them, it's so hard to see what's actually goin on in the system.
@iggyfan66
@iggyfan66 9 ай бұрын
Dan what a great video! I have been working for GM for 23 years and I also have run across weird problems like this. Your explanation of doing a continuity test is spot on. I too have been burned by this test in the past and it is challenging and rewarding when you can repair a problem like this. I have in the past run new wires when a short to ground is suspected, but due to high labor rates we will usually just run new wires, I have many times wondered what the root cause of the problem is. I have to say in my experience over 90% of electrical problems in the field end up being damaged wires and not faulty modules, just my 2 cents for anyone else who might want to try a new module first. Thanks for the great videos!
@iansonnyblack2624
@iansonnyblack2624 Жыл бұрын
Using jump wire with no communication faults is the way to go to rule out wiring problems.. I had a similar incident with an audi where the multimeter did the same. Since then on faults like these I jump 1 wire at a time to find the problem or completely rule out the wiring loom.. Saves time and hassle, another great video Dan 👍
@madds6678
@madds6678 Жыл бұрын
Or you could save the hassle of that & do a proper continuity check after the first test by just touching to positive & earth on the disconnected circuit 3 simple steps which would find this in less than a minute then a load test if above is ok.
@iansonnyblack2624
@iansonnyblack2624 Жыл бұрын
@@madds6678 I do that too. Most mechanics do all of the above usually.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive comment its really appreciated 👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
@@madds6678 would have been a short video and we would'nt have learned as much 😉
@roxthedumbhyena
@roxthedumbhyena Жыл бұрын
altijd gaaf om een expert zo bezig te zien! op een dag wil ik er ook zo goed mee worden, en deze videos geven me motivatie! Hou ze vol zo!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Dat is goed om te horen!
@AlfUpATree
@AlfUpATree 5 ай бұрын
Brill as usual! Been watching your vids for a while, this was the first time I ever had something to yell at the screen while you were working! It was: "Continuity =/= integrity!"
@jimr549
@jimr549 Жыл бұрын
That hack job they did behind the cluster is the next problem with that car. Nice job Dan!
@PDR-wb9dq
@PDR-wb9dq Жыл бұрын
Great video I really enjoyed following you down the rabbit hole to diagnose this one, this was so easily overlooked by carrying out a continuity test, I always test for continuity then do a voltage drop test and see how many volts are being lost on that wire, having said that this job would have been a real head scratcher, well done Dan!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Loaded testing and indeed voltage drop are the way to check your wiring.
@stpeter7432
@stpeter7432 Жыл бұрын
You always have to think what it is you are really measuring. If, as Dan found, A & B are connected, you must consider the possibility that they're both connected to C. Good reminder - I could see myself falling in that hole.
@rogerleese1342
@rogerleese1342 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, you can't beat a test light, (loaded circuit) great information, look forward to the next one... cheers
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
A simple tool but very relevant!
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Жыл бұрын
I had a Citroen BX back in the 1890s. A very underrated car with very little electronics. The alternator charge warning light started coming on. Took alternator to a specialist who said it needed work. Fitted overhauled unit and all seemed well. Then that light came on again. I noticed battery wasn’t going flat as much as you’d expect but whatever. Then I heard a click as the warning light came on. I don’t remember what circuit it was but was able to trace were it went. Lo and behold found a chafed wire over a body seam. That short to earth was tripping a relay which powered the battery side of the charge indicator. So the charge light came on powered by the alternator rather than by the battery which is the more usual direction. Wire fixed, better protected and problem solved. At least I now had a nice “new” alternator.
@agoodneighborautorepair2176
@agoodneighborautorepair2176 Жыл бұрын
Wow What a blessing to finally find the problem
@BY504A
@BY504A Жыл бұрын
Another fascinating diagnosis from Diagnose Dan! Sure glad you showed us where the purple line was shorted. I bet the tech that worked on the car will not be so quick to rely on the continuity test in the future without some further testing.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Lets hope he's learned something after seeing this video
@gutsngorrrr
@gutsngorrrr Жыл бұрын
Interesting diagnosis and a great teaching moment for many, as it's always worth doing a continuity test and a short to power and ground. Seen this sort of problem a few times. Also noticed, the white pin in that connector wasn't the only damaged one, looked like there was at least another that was damaged and close to shorting.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right multiple pins were poked.
@mohamedlahlal1372
@mohamedlahlal1372 4 ай бұрын
in holland we call this problem ''franse meuk!'' , nice job diagnosedan ty for sharing your daignose methodes
@chocolatechiclid7654
@chocolatechiclid7654 Жыл бұрын
Dan more videos PLEASE my Electrical diags need to improve.
@petervanb8088
@petervanb8088 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan for another good new video. When you showed the picture I noticed not just the purple and white wire have contact, but the green and brown one next to it could have contact too.. Good find and very educational search. Since friends and family have these cars too, I'll keep this one in mind when they have crank-no-start issues.
@koeniglicher
@koeniglicher Жыл бұрын
Yes, green and brown seem to be in contact as well. So this other workshop guy used two massive test probes and bent both of these terminals.
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Жыл бұрын
​@@koeniglicherSomeone did, but not necessarily the other technician. Could have been the owner who then sent it to the technician after causing the damage. Everyone is going to be a Shaggy in this situation.
@koeniglicher
@koeniglicher Жыл бұрын
@@chrishartley1210 OK, good point to not accuse anyone. I ruled out the owner, as the purple and green wires are affected. To find out, that these are the relevant ones and are avilable at this connector, this would need a wiring diagram (or some "internet advice"). I do not commonly associate owners with reading wiring diagrams and tracing wires over multiple connectors but rather workshop technicians. Still, your point is very valid indeed.
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Жыл бұрын
@@koeniglicher Perhaps he was looking for a different fault, perhaps it was another technician, perhaps... Dan did say he needed to get permission to fix the fault as the owner may want to do the work himself, which is what gave me the idea that it could have been the owner. Anyway it's not that big a deal and we are never going to identify the guilty party. 😁😁
@koeniglicher
@koeniglicher Жыл бұрын
@@chrishartley1210 Dan should isolate these two/four terminals temporarily (like with a small plastic tab) and see whether this the only fault or whether there are more issues with the wiring. Because there can be more of them, especially after all this ripping the car apart.
@oldschool1993
@oldschool1993 Жыл бұрын
Always like to see Dan do the work- I wish Rainman Ray and Eric at Southmain would learn from him. They both have good diagnostic skills, but they clutter the job with endless mumbling, extraneous comments and tedious cliche's.
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb Жыл бұрын
A fine example of someone messing around with their car, and having to take it to an expert to fix afterwards. Dan is the Man!
@joemilton7552
@joemilton7552 Жыл бұрын
this is actually an example of something much worse as it came from another shop
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb Жыл бұрын
@@joemilton7552 - The car was a crank no start BEFORE it went to the other shop.
@joemilton7552
@joemilton7552 Жыл бұрын
@@BA-gn3qb I assumed that most of the hack work came from the other shop, although there's no way to know for sure. I doubt the owner was in there poking around and spreading the base of those pins, although definitely possible.
@BA-gn3qb
@BA-gn3qb Жыл бұрын
@@joemilton7552 - The owner probably was messing around. You don't take a cheap thing like that to a professional shop, except as a last resort.
@joemilton7552
@joemilton7552 Жыл бұрын
@@BA-gn3qb The average vehicle owner can't even open the hood of their vehicle and has no choice but to take it to a shop for all maintenance and repairs.
@TheKeenMechanic
@TheKeenMechanic 9 ай бұрын
Your work is amazing. I don't know if you realise how good you are at explaining things. I really like your approach and what you do for the automotive community💪
@dws2313
@dws2313 Жыл бұрын
The problem was not with the multimeter tool, but with the diagnostician's use of the tool.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
That's why the title of the video is don't USE a multimeter like this!
@dmc6419
@dmc6419 Жыл бұрын
Would a load test (4 amp test light) have worked to help check wire integrity? I too enjoyed seeing you work through this problem.
@BrainHurricanes
@BrainHurricanes Жыл бұрын
That is exactly what Dan used in the video, a test light as a load. Doesn't need to be 4A, but it would work also.
@simduino
@simduino Жыл бұрын
@@BrainHurricanes The test light is ok, but 4A is too much. These are communication wires with small diameter (rated usually at 5A tops). Pushing 4A over them may cause overheating. Not a good idea. Be very careful using that technique.
@jeroenvtec
@jeroenvtec 9 ай бұрын
I do nothing with car repairs, I do play with mulitmeter and other tools, but love to watch it and get the glue. Gr Jeroen
@TheZemun
@TheZemun Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha , this video was AWESOME , but , oh man , that sequence at the very end , It shows it all . Bravo Maestro !
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
I don’t get why the customer would have to pay for new parts, installed by the dealer/workshop that doesn’t solve the issue he/she wanted to be solved.
@Tomaskii
@Tomaskii Жыл бұрын
New electric parts, which they can't return like bad brakes or filters
@Capitanvolume
@Capitanvolume Жыл бұрын
Dealers do this. I was a truck driver many years ago. I diagnosed the truck as having a bad ecm. The truck would burn coolant temp sensors after 3-7 hours of use. The owner took it to the dealer, they charged $4000 dollars, changed a bunch of parts, told the owner they couldn't fix it and to take it to the dealer of the engine manufacturer. This is normal in this day. It's the death of expertise. There are very few like diagnose Dan.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
@@Tomaskii I know that they can’t return the parts. My point is that if the dealer or shop misdiagnosis the fault, they should pay for parts that are unnecessary put on the car. If that were the case, they would think more before ordering new parts.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. Жыл бұрын
@@Capitanvolume This a good example. People wouldn’t pay a contractor that was called to fix a leaky roof if he would install a new chimney and the roof would still be leaking. In the automotive world however we somehow accept things like that.
@Capitanvolume
@Capitanvolume Жыл бұрын
@@Conservator. customers pay is the problem. I would have left and never paid. The owner insisted on maintaining relationships. Not sure I would be maintaining relationships after I was mugged
@hurls2301
@hurls2301 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Would you consider it a valid test if on the initial continuity test after confirming continuity through the wire simply doing the extra step of checking for continuity to battery positive and negative?
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 Жыл бұрын
I thought so too. I can't really see why that won't work.
@simduino
@simduino Жыл бұрын
Indeed that would have worked. I saw the failure straight away because he failed to check the connection on the fuse box. With these wirings it's imperative to check EVERY connector. I would have done the last part of the video (where he replaced the wires) right before using the scope. It's an electrical engineering procedure called "finding the least probable point of failure". Many cars have failures in the wiring loom when it passes the firewall or other parts caused by vibration and degradation of insulation. The title of the video is also incorrect, it's not about using the multimeter wrongly, it's about not using it sufficiently. No need for the scope or the check light. An ever better way is to use the multimeter in ohms mode, zero to two ohms means 100% continuity, anything above means check the connections because they may not be connecting 100%. He only checked the pins of the connectors on the immobilizer and the ecu, but you need to check each and every connector in the wiring. There's most probably another connector in the interior on the drivers side right where the firewall is, or there might even be a connector in the hole of the firewall (this is used in many modern citroens). Sometimes dirty or oxidated pins are the cause of failure. Using contact cleaner on each connector is also good practice.
@Lambros_Stefaneas
@Lambros_Stefaneas Жыл бұрын
Dan ,you are the best. No one can reach you.Test light,sometimes like this, can bit a lot of expensive equipment.No one can underestimate, a cheap (compare to other expensive tools) test light. Test light, is one more important tool, to our daily troubleshooting battle.
@robinhood2980
@robinhood2980 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, my 107 has the crank no start and sadly my garage could not progress this issue, this video has given me an idea to try the repair of my car myself, THANKS DAN.
@onlyeyeno
@onlyeyeno Жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely NOT a "car-Guy", I "ended up here" after looking at "electronic videos", but I found it both very informative and entertaining, all due to the clear and comprehensive presentation... Though I must admit that I'm a bit "bummed out" by how "computerised" even the "most basic car" is nowadays. Best regards
@rodan2852
@rodan2852 5 ай бұрын
I learned more in this video about electrical diag, than i did in a full year at freightliner. Just change the sensor, replace the module dirka dirka same stuff. Never saw a scope or a test light there either. Just standard multimeters and scanner tool. Subscribed
@htownblue11
@htownblue11 Жыл бұрын
Wow. Sometimes the basics and being thorough are the critical keys to proper diagnosis. Otherwise you can end up with a half torn apart car and a fired parts cannon. Well done. Dan is the GOAT.
@johngoard8272
@johngoard8272 10 ай бұрын
Just amazed at the amount of knowledge about car electrical systems. You also have the patience of a saint mate in my book a genius at work. I recently had a problem with a parasitic drain which turned out to be that the battery has passed it's use by date - has been in the car for 8 years and the techy and Mazda told me that a low voltage will not let the relays - certain relays which rely on working properly - changing the battery for a new one cured it. Now I am at a loss to why you don't have more subscribers than you have??
@alirezabadamchi8670
@alirezabadamchi8670 Жыл бұрын
god i wish you were IT engineer, i could learn tons from you. you're a jewel.
@inhocsigno9151
@inhocsigno9151 9 ай бұрын
Great job, Dan! I can't imagine the customer putting the dash back together and taping up the wiring harness. What a mess the other shop left for him.
@barrybritcher
@barrybritcher Жыл бұрын
Wow that was the best DD video yet. Well done.
@johnbolongo9978
@johnbolongo9978 6 ай бұрын
Another head scratcher solved.....Dan is the Sherlock Holmes of head scratchers.....nicely done.
@hansvanleersum8309
@hansvanleersum8309 Жыл бұрын
Only one men can do this,Diagnose Dan is that Men! Fantastic job! Hvl.
@lesablier2088
@lesablier2088 3 ай бұрын
Hi Dan i used to be a workshop manager in France for a Peugeot dealer. My tech always said he wouldn't troubleshoot anything else than PSA cars because he wouldn't be able to or without specific data you just prooved again the opposite thank you
@JLAGAN49
@JLAGAN49 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dan I designed microprocessor control systems for 35 years, a short to ground on a system is absolute hell to find. The scope is a game changer for debugging serial communication problems. Tough job for driveway mechanics!!!!
@rimsathnm
@rimsathnm 8 ай бұрын
You are the true professional 😎 Thanks for teaching lot to us.
@memphisautodiagnostics4136
@memphisautodiagnostics4136 Жыл бұрын
Never will forget this trick, amazing Dan thank you
@keitho77
@keitho77 Жыл бұрын
Great diagnosis and fix. Good work Dan!!
@hansvanleersum8309
@hansvanleersum8309 9 ай бұрын
Fantastisch,wat is het toch een plezier om naar jouw video’s te kijken,heerlijk zoveel informatie en uitleg! Groet uit Frankrijk! Hvl.
@markt5426
@markt5426 Жыл бұрын
Impressive Dan, It just shows, don't take things for granted and you of course finally identified the problem. 👍👍👍
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment 👍
@IOANOPRIS-gz2xj
@IOANOPRIS-gz2xj Жыл бұрын
Excelent Dan!!! You have something special. I learned a lot of things from yours videos. Thanks a lot!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
That's so good to hear!
@user-te1le7ck6b
@user-te1le7ck6b Жыл бұрын
As an aygo owner I’ll be saving this never to hopefully use lol well done again Dan
@ahsamahi4385
@ahsamahi4385 Жыл бұрын
From the start of the video I guessed that the cause is an electric connector ,Great work thats why i like your channel 😊 👍
@Grimmjar
@Grimmjar Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely use a Multimeter for a Job like this! But at first you have to know what is right and wrong. And you realy have to on modern cars. Nice Job Dan!
@candrevajonathan-matic6604
@candrevajonathan-matic6604 Жыл бұрын
Wow . Thanks for the video D.D . The last technician didn’t think about immo off it would help.
@elenapender1405
@elenapender1405 Жыл бұрын
I just find your Channel DiagnoseDan,You’re wonderful and so helpful,thank you so much!! You’re Really Good!!😊God bless you!!❤
@190055joe
@190055joe Жыл бұрын
As a X Telecom tech one of the basic test on data or phone lines was short between and short to grd and short to + .
@kurthamblin598
@kurthamblin598 Жыл бұрын
Hey Diagnos Dan, a big shout out from Barbados. I've got got one for yuh. A Suzuki Vitara crank no start. I've got spark, I've got fuel and I've got compression of 200 per cylinder. What's missing? Wish you were here lol.
@jonascourtney5999
@jonascourtney5999 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video, it brings back old classes I took on electronics, the 5 life's of a wire: never used (missing), good installed, not expected power, not expected ground, connected wrong.
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment
@dosgos
@dosgos Жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson DiagnoseDan! Thank you for taking the time to walk through this "stumbling block".
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!!!!
@brianm9007
@brianm9007 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing diagnosis! Thanks for your clear presentation of your thought process and techniques. Excellent!!
@frodemarkhus3692
@frodemarkhus3692 Жыл бұрын
Well done.The sign of a true professional! Brilliant video!
@ismarmeskovic
@ismarmeskovic Жыл бұрын
Great job Danny as always,that little car has been vandalized by the other shop.
@katzchenundloup6693
@katzchenundloup6693 Жыл бұрын
This video came at exactly the right minute. Just at the moment when this video came up I was in the workshop diagnosing the Aygo of my mother-in-law with exactly the same issue 🙂Dan, you're the best!!!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Broken wire?
@Trump1776
@Trump1776 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely professional diagnosis, 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@jond1536
@jond1536 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so how many of you, throw your pointy finger at the screen when Dan says "Lets diagnose this TOGETHER"? I know I do. GREAT VIDEOS Dan, thank you for passing along a tiny bit of your vast knowledge .
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline Жыл бұрын
nice one, love your diagnostics skills, dude is a straight up ninja !
@pongo1372
@pongo1372 Жыл бұрын
In my career as an avionics technician, we always did wiring checks to ground. Multimeter negative to ground, positive to pin. On the other end, use a jumper to apply ground. It validates continuity and short to ground in one step.
@armendi04
@armendi04 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos ,Dan. You make problems look so easy, the way you explain them. Keep doing what you do...👏
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@randomion
@randomion Жыл бұрын
Great video! I have the same probleme with my wife's C1. Tomorrow will be the day. If i succed, i will be a hero, and of curse, you a superhero. Thanks a lot!
@randomion
@randomion Жыл бұрын
Problem solved. Superhero!!!!!!!!!! IT was the green wire for me. 👍👍👍👍👍
@konezoumana614
@konezoumana614 Жыл бұрын
Waou !!!! Bravo !!!! 👏👏👏 Diagnosedan, fixed it again.
@petit4695
@petit4695 Жыл бұрын
The green wire is almost touching the brown wire too at the end. Thank you for all great videos! Im learning something from every single one i watch!
@Diagnosedan
@Diagnosedan Жыл бұрын
Great catch! We saw it👍
@GeminiSeven43
@GeminiSeven43 10 ай бұрын
I Love this video and as a maintenance tech for industrial machinery it was a great lesson in troubleshooting and in the basics of the meter. You nailed it once again through thorough testing and evaluation and your step by step instructions and your patience is amazing. Thanks so much for taking along on this journey.
@glenben92
@glenben92 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who can intelligently diagnose!!!
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