Diana Ross - love triangle with Cher! Did she GR00M Michael Jackson? What happened to the Supremes?

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@KarineAlourde
@KarineAlourde Жыл бұрын
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@MrDMC11889
@MrDMC11889 Жыл бұрын
"Dirty Diana" is about Diana Ross. I never put that together.
@denisebrashears1552
@denisebrashears1552 Жыл бұрын
You need to check your facts! I do not believe that dirty Diana was written about Diana Ross. I really don't think he would have been that rude with everyone knowing that he had feelings for her. But I guess it gives you something to talk about.
@brizzy4932
@brizzy4932 Жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson, the secret love child of Diana Ross and Smokey Robinson 😲
@RobertaWilliams-sz3ht
@RobertaWilliams-sz3ht 8 ай бұрын
@@denisebrashears1552 Dirty Diana was 4 Diana Ross. Facts all fit. Diana supposedly even sang it as her opening act / and said Her bad boy wrote it for Her..
@RobertaWilliams-sz3ht
@RobertaWilliams-sz3ht 8 ай бұрын
@@brizzy4932 He looks just like nearly ALL his siblings they"d ALL have to come from her!! How ridiculous! And Diana was a 13 yr old girl across the world when he was born!! LMBAO!!
@katara9
@katara9 Жыл бұрын
It's sad, Michael was always being exposed to things of the adult world far too early.
@myrtlemoore7611
@myrtlemoore7611 5 ай бұрын
That's cause that's called my lesting a child there's no getting around it she ought to be ashamed of herself
@myrtlemoore7611
@myrtlemoore7611 5 ай бұрын
How can you love a woman that molests a child cause that's what she did spare me your banality that's no love as a child molester
@thelbd2029
@thelbd2029 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, well, blame his BLACK dad cause Joseph Jackson FORCED his children into the industry without asking them how they felt about it.
@VVilla-zh5mw
@VVilla-zh5mw 2 жыл бұрын
in MJ's recorded phone call , someone asked him "How long did it take you to get over Diana?" and he said _"Years . . . A hell long of a time."_ I feel so bad for Mike 😩
@danavixen6274
@danavixen6274 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Michael was enamored with Diana. There is not ENOUGH empathy for Michael when it comes to what he and many child stars are exposed to. Diana is a pioneering legend yet she can be a cold opportunist. Michael was too sensitive for her. I hope he is at peace now. 😔🙏🏾🕊️❤️
@alinagabrial6407
@alinagabrial6407 2 жыл бұрын
So sad😭
@teacherspet8835
@teacherspet8835 2 жыл бұрын
actually he didn't got over her until his last breath
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
He NEVER got over her. Just tried to make ppl think he did.. He left a dedication on last album to her, saying he loved her more than ever...
@sohappytogether353
@sohappytogether353 2 жыл бұрын
@@teacherspet8835 exactly 💯
@sharitad.3688
@sharitad.3688 2 жыл бұрын
My mom has been saying Diana groomed Michael for years. As I grew older, it was disturbing to find out she met him around 9 and he even lived with her. He was in love her. He should have never been sent to live with her. Calling her both mother and girlfriend is SICK!
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't groom him. He got older and she fell into his administration for her by the time he was in his early 20s. She began to feel attracted to him by the time Off The Wall was coming out
@sharitad.3688
@sharitad.3688 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides it's grooming. They met when he was 9. A child. And after living with her he became "obsessed" with her and later started referring to her as he gf/mom. It's inappropriate and disgusting administration or not.
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharitad.3688 he was obsessed with her before he even lived with her. MJ and his brothers lived with her because Berry Gordy asked her if she'd take them in. She said yes. MJ adored her the most- he had a crush on her and she treated him like a sister/mother. He got older (21) and she started to see him differently. It's easy to vilify her due to her other unsavory behaviors in her younger years, but "grooming" is such a stretch of a definition. It's kind of like people calling MJ a pedophile because he had such a beautiful genuine love for children. I guess he was grooming those kids too?
@theodorajackson6233
@theodorajackson6233 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides it's grooming look it up it's called grooming an underage child who can't defend themselves from serious situations like that
@elisageorge2261
@elisageorge2261 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides I agree with your entire comment.. However It's just that for me,a grown woman, and if a young man been around me since a kid.. I just wouldn't desire him even though he's grown into a man.. He's like family to me..
@r.g.murray3945
@r.g.murray3945 Жыл бұрын
I've known about Michael & Diana's relationship, she was caught on video saying, "me and my man" and you could tell she was so proud to be with him. Michael on the other hand was shy about the relationship and she wanted people to see him like she saw him. He was definitely "the man" in her eye. I never believed any of the stories about him and kids; just another smear campaign by the 1% people at the top wanting to control certain people. Michael was even heard as saying "there are very powerful people" I knew what he was talking about. Just take a look at the entertainment industry and you can guess by those with the most money and fame are connected and have sold their souls to the devil. Michael Jackson loved children but not in a negative way. I think he was always just a big kid at heart.
@deannalassiter2088
@deannalassiter2088 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree 💯
@JaeElise
@JaeElise 7 ай бұрын
Also may I add before his death, he owned 50% of Sony’s Catalog. One thing about powerful people, they don’t like to share
@shernandez1581
@shernandez1581 6 ай бұрын
The abused often times become a perpetrator. I honestly don't blame MJ. He was such a beautiful person and soul- but i won't make excuses for a grown man either. Regardless, he was toyed with and used by Ms. Ross, definitely, and so many other adults. MJ grew up to be so handsome, with no judgment here, but she should've controlled herself. But I feel he had no normal outlet and did things darkly as well. He should've been protected like all children and child entertainers. But he tried his best. That's why we can't fight battles alone. We need Jesus. May he rest in peace 🙏
@shernandez1581
@shernandez1581 6 ай бұрын
@JaeElise lol true 👍
@Carol-dq8nj
@Carol-dq8nj 6 ай бұрын
Wow! So you’re one of those people? Who believe what they want to believe. Do some research real research, and you will be very enlightened. There was no Cinderella story here. And why would you want them to be a couple? She was like a mother to him he was nine when she met him. Do you really think it’s OK that later on she would be with him sexually? Everyone could see why he would love being in love with her, but that’s strange as in his book is autobiography. He says she was like a mother sister lover to him. That’s not healthy. And lastly, please understand pedophiles are in many vocations leading very functional lives. It is very likely he he did do things with YoungBoy, but he never hurt them. How many times did he say that I could never hurt a child and he probably didn’t but that doesn’t mean he didn’t have sexual things with them. You don’t sleep in a twin bed as a man with a young boy, and not have sex come on. His father used to take him out of bed somewhere at all hours of the night when they were on tour and when he got back, he would cry for days. This is according to his brother Germaine in his book. I’m sorry to tell you all this, but it’s not healthy for you to believe in fantasies.
@debrastevenson709
@debrastevenson709 2 жыл бұрын
That's why Diana Ross would not dare show up for Michael's funeral because of the embarassment in how she treated Michael! She abused his love that he had for her and was very selfcentered!
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te 2 ай бұрын
Uhm you’re wrong she didn’t show up because she was too sad. Theirs videos of her crying and stuff
@alishaendre616
@alishaendre616 15 күн бұрын
@@User-gi9tema’am. Lmao
@angelascharmedlife
@angelascharmedlife 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Michael. You can be kind, beautiful, and talented and ppl will still treat you like trash. And I can't imagine knowing a child at nine and then sleeping with them as an adult. Gross.
@nonofyourbusiness8651
@nonofyourbusiness8651 2 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY... A whole 14 year age gap😭
@novacorps2468
@novacorps2468 2 жыл бұрын
She was a child predator Let's just call it for what it is.
@sheliabattle1129
@sheliabattle1129 2 жыл бұрын
Mike got robbed and used. THE INDUSTRY EVENTUALLY GETS THEM ALL. DIRTY DIANA, CLIVE, RECORD COMPANIES, BRITISH, AMERICAN GOVT. ..ITS ALL ABOUT DEBT AND DEBTORS.
@shennine7044
@shennine7044 2 жыл бұрын
That is truly sick! She was extremely talented though.. wish she also had the heart to go along with the talent.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
What's sick a/b it? He was grown! Priscilla was only 14 when Elvis started 'doing her' That's my definition of sick!
@JeannieMitchellMyers
@JeannieMitchellMyers 2 жыл бұрын
May MJ rest in peace, my goodness, he went through so much!
@angelalabauve9131
@angelalabauve9131 Жыл бұрын
Diana Ross was a legendary narcissist.....so sad that child stars like Michael are not protected.
@rupinderh01
@rupinderh01 5 ай бұрын
yes I totally agree with you
@fertusherring3476
@fertusherring3476 4 ай бұрын
Diana Ross is a "legendary" narcissist? Ambitious, yes. Narcissist, I think, is not even in the ballpark. Where do people get their information from? It is far more likely that she does not "bond" with others. She doesn't demonstrate the traits of a narcissist, which is something people with no psychological knowledge throw around whenever they want to say something damning about someone. People are jumping to absurd conclusions, based on hearsay (the old "Well, I heard that..." or some other nonsense). We used to respect facts. Now we just voice an opinion and don't care if it is factual or not. Such as "the election was stolen." and now "Diana Ross groomed Michael Jackson." Nuts. Michael Jackson's father would never let anyone else have any control over his kids. And if you're old enough, you know this from back in the '70s, when the Jacksons left Motown. P.S. I am no fan of Diana Ross. I liked her when she was with the Supremes, but as soon as it turned into DR & The Supremes, I was gone. That said, if people are going to bash someone, get your facts straight and leave the innuendo/rumors out of it.
@meenballa999
@meenballa999 Ай бұрын
@@fertusherring3476 blah blah blah feminism rotted your brain to where you're unable to hold women accountable, she was a narcissist.
@BrenJen86
@BrenJen86 2 жыл бұрын
I love her music, but Ms. Ross was very very toxic. She did MJ wrong and it saddens me because he really and truly loved her to the point of obsession. His songs “Who Is It”, “Heartbreaker”, “Give In To Me”, and many more, are said to also be about her. She caused that man a lot of pain.
@CodyCole80
@CodyCole80 2 жыл бұрын
And she reaped her seeds when her husband Arne “allegedly” dumped her for his younger, pregnant girlfriend. That man sent her into spells of depression and alcoholism till the day he died, and it doesn’t seem like she’s had a significant relationship since.
@pheephee1712
@pheephee1712 2 жыл бұрын
The way I feel about celebrities I separate their art form from what they are at any other time-
@CodyCole80
@CodyCole80 2 жыл бұрын
@@pheephee1712 It depends on what they do in their personal lives.
@faa1412
@faa1412 2 жыл бұрын
@@CodyCole80 Meanwhile Michael wanted to give her the world!
@annmariebusu9924
@annmariebusu9924 2 жыл бұрын
@@CodyCole80 on national tv 😲. I need to find that video 😏
@Ourdaypov
@Ourdaypov 2 жыл бұрын
I spoke on this before about women taking advantage of children and it being glorified especially within our community. As if it doesn’t cause psychological damage.
@Alchewand
@Alchewand 2 жыл бұрын
This happens in all communities btw not jus our community but regardless it needs to be addressed.
@skip031890
@skip031890 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alchewand It happens MORE in your community. That's the point. 🙄
@reasy1978
@reasy1978 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Even now, these female entertainers are perverts and no different from the men. Thats why Lizzy could comfortably be around children at a ball game with her whole prune shaped ass out.
@Alchewand
@Alchewand Жыл бұрын
@@skip031890 it actually doesn’t and I can tell you’re speaking from a non statistical perspective so stop being dense.
@skip031890
@skip031890 Жыл бұрын
@@Alchewand keep telling yourself that.
@mimisamone1382
@mimisamone1382 Жыл бұрын
She should be ashamed for treating him like that selfish and controlling
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te 2 ай бұрын
Yall don’t know anything, she didn’t groom him
@Genevieve4260
@Genevieve4260 Жыл бұрын
I loved Diana Ross in "Mahogany" and "Lady Sings the Blues", but I have never really liked her "persona". She photographs beautifully as a model and is definitely talented, but you confirmed my aversion to her because she clearly is not a very nice person. To be so unfaithful and hurtful to people throughout her life is not a good character trait. She was mean to the Supremes, she played with Michael Jackson and she backstabbed Cher - yeah, that is not a good person. And for what? She was already super wealthy and well-known when she met Michael Jackson. I wish her no harm, but I have never really liked her and now I know why. I could see it in her face...something I could not quite put my finger on. This is an excellent video. Great job at bringing out the truth!
@trenastewart2599
@trenastewart2599 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with this statement. You nailed it and left nothing out.
@Carol-dq8nj
@Carol-dq8nj 5 ай бұрын
Well said. I totally agree with you! And I hate people who say they wished they were a couple.
@uniqueunique3836
@uniqueunique3836 5 ай бұрын
Yep
@patriciaassouline6591
@patriciaassouline6591 26 күн бұрын
@@Carol-dq8njwell it might have healed him and let him move on faster on e it ended and fulfill his love story.
@linnettemcneal8788
@linnettemcneal8788 2 жыл бұрын
Never was a fan of Diana. Florence had the best voice of the Supremes. I love Cher. I loved MJ he passed on my birthday😓😓. Diana is all about herself.
@piscesempress1978
@piscesempress1978 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober Diana had the look and the voice that was "White" enough. thats why...
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
I love me some Flo. But she just didn't have this great "voice" people claim. And it didn't have the appeal to rise the supremes to the top
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober Faaaacts... people were always so mean about Diana just because Berry appointed her to lead the group. She went with it and took it serious and did a fantastic job. She was a hard worker. And knew she had a different art to offer. It's those eyes for me and that swag
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober and it's so annoying. Not many know; toward the end of The Supremes...Diana personally asked Mary "what do you want to do after this?"...and Mary's response was "I don't know...maybe to get Married" lol. I mean.. Diana had a complete vision for HERSELF. NOTHING wrong with that. She was YOUNG during a PIONEERING era.. from the "HOOD"... it IS a rags to riches and ambitious story.
@julierobinson8173
@julierobinson8173 2 жыл бұрын
How could she sleep with a man she knew as a child?!🤦🏽‍♀️ all famous people are crazy 🤪
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
He was becoming powerful and she saw it (Off The Wall/ Wiz era) It becomes a turn on after a while. Especially once he was of proper legal age. He was also obsessed with her...and perhaps she felt she could finally give him what he wanted. Then it got complicated, because she didn't care too much for how shy he was off stage.
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn Жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides you’re right. Power turns her on. MJ got powerful.
@jillybe1873
@jillybe1873 Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised how common this is
@granny58
@granny58 Жыл бұрын
They become famous because they have what it takes to use and walk all over people without remorse. Narcissists.
@TheLilSolidOne
@TheLilSolidOne 6 ай бұрын
Who knows, she could've had him before that. You never know until you know..
@jessolagunle
@jessolagunle 2 жыл бұрын
At this point Michael’s only real friends with no ulterior motive was Elizabeth Taylor and Chris Tucker. Smh
@chelsea9641
@chelsea9641 2 жыл бұрын
Yup he really had no one don't forget Stephanie Mills
@ChocolateRuko
@ChocolateRuko 2 жыл бұрын
brooke shields?
@thankthelord4536
@thankthelord4536 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChocolateRuko no. She used him.
@wi_aviation1543
@wi_aviation1543 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie Murphy??
@dxrlingsofmine
@dxrlingsofmine 2 жыл бұрын
I think Anjelica Huston should be added to this
@renegadetherapper
@renegadetherapper Жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking this for a long time. She had him on his show when he was like 8 or 9, and doing a skit with him where she pretend she’s his wife. That little boy was smitten from the start. Then he gets older and she calls him sexy, gets real flirty……… then marries someone else. She made him fall for her since he was a child, groomed him into staying in love as an adult, breaks his heart after leading him on for most of his young life and then he has to just get over that? Sheesh. Man. Heart breaking. I don’t hate Diana Ross, I wish her a good rest in peace, and I have immense respect for her legacy especially since she’s part of my favorite singer’s favorite band (Amy Winehouse loved the supremes). But we gotta admit that was dirty. Dirty Diana
@mireilleboeli4099
@mireilleboeli4099 5 ай бұрын
Yeah,I saw that skit.Although Michael is his acting was toppie ,it was weird.Diana always knew that he was madly in love with her ,but she on the other hand wasn't.I think she found him very attractive and sexy when he got older.She began flirting(Diana always was very flirty with men)with him and giving all the wrong signs.Nah miss Ross!👎
@tamara_diamonds422
@tamara_diamonds422 4 ай бұрын
@nicholasgreen339we don’t need to be technical with his age. The whole point. He was still young.
@AJ-uc8ow
@AJ-uc8ow 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for your deep dive on Michael! His obsession w/Dianna Ross explains a lot, so sad the industry took so much advantage of him.
@daryltracy7949
@daryltracy7949 2 жыл бұрын
She already did one
@SpiceyKy
@SpiceyKy 2 жыл бұрын
@@daryltracy7949 Well, she stated in THIS video that one is coming.
@teacherspet8835
@teacherspet8835 Жыл бұрын
Michael also had a huge poster of Diana in his bathroom. And in one interview with Oprah (after the divorce) Lisa Marie Presley said she has no advantage to Diana when it comes to Michael's attention. And also Tatum O'Neil in an interview, their relationship didn't last because Michael Jackson was in love with Diana Ross.
@daryltracy7949
@daryltracy7949 Жыл бұрын
@@teacherspet8835 Please give me the link of where Lisa said that
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
@@SpiceyKy MJ married Elvis Pressley's daughter Maria. So what was that all about. Yeah, Dianna was a project cock blocking where, very manipulative, like your typical trap ho.
@Kanatshi
@Kanatshi 2 жыл бұрын
She led MJ on
@Hi.Shadow
@Hi.Shadow 2 жыл бұрын
Big time!
@gabri11e14
@gabri11e14 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he said in a recorded phone call that she started to make a game out of things
@Hi.Shadow
@Hi.Shadow 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabri11e14 yes!!!! I hope Karine can do a review of the Glenda Tapes, it will reveal so much!
@gabri11e14
@gabri11e14 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hi.Shadow omg right!! they reveal so much about what was going on in his mind
@amorelockster1023
@amorelockster1023 2 жыл бұрын
She was a predator a groomer just disgusting
@loveboxing1994
@loveboxing1994 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done Janet Jackson? I really like her transition from tomboy to WOMAN but keeping both elements of masculine and feminine balanced throughout her career/life. Latoya Jackson would also be an interesting breakdown. She was highly sought out by famous men but was just as shy as Michael lol
@natalie8105
@natalie8105 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned how she had the perfect balance of tomboy and woman . One article I read described her song “ if “ as the perfect balance of masculine and feminine
@cressapellom4205
@cressapellom4205 2 жыл бұрын
You mean how she went from tomboy to being slutty...
@yahsway777
@yahsway777 2 жыл бұрын
Janet tells her own story on hulu
@lindairvine993
@lindairvine993 2 жыл бұрын
​@@natalie8105 6 y
@AmericanMayan
@AmericanMayan Жыл бұрын
possibly because Janet may have been born a boy
@jaywilliams1942
@jaywilliams1942 4 ай бұрын
Allegedly, MJ’s solo version of the song “The Girl Is Mine” was a direct shot at Gene Simmons about Diana Ross.
@P55999
@P55999 2 ай бұрын
Michael fell in love as young man not a child people need to get their minds out of the gutter. The heart wants what the heart wants.
@mariarivera5354
@mariarivera5354 2 жыл бұрын
I always felt sad for MJ. He endured so much physical mental and emotional abuse from his father hile his mother stood by and did nothing. She was also abused as well. Then as an adult it continued , yet his talents and resilience took him to the top and there will never be anyone that can even compare to him. He is thhe King. ❤😢
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
MJ=King of pop.
@aarondigby5054
@aarondigby5054 Жыл бұрын
They are overstating Diana's beauty, too pop eyed and skinny. It was makeup and costumes that gave her a semblance of beauty.
@gracegreen1859
@gracegreen1859 8 ай бұрын
@@aarondigby5054just say you hate Black women and move on
@primesspct2
@primesspct2 6 ай бұрын
Much of what you said is very true. I think he wanted to be resilient, and he tried to get past his problems. But very obviously he wasn't resilient enough. She could have said F it all, I am going to marry him . I love him, I don't care what people think! Maybe if they had, he would still be alive. At the same time everyone looked at her as a predator, and maybe she was. I think hooking up so fast with so many other men, would have been extremely hurtful.
@UlrichW-mm8yz
@UlrichW-mm8yz 6 ай бұрын
@@aarondigby5054 That can be said of about every so-called beauty. Nope, sorry--that black woman was gorgeous! And not everyone likes thick big booty women my man! In many cultures, large eyes are a very coveted trait, and some just don't know what to do with large eyes--just as many believe Bette Davis to be beautiful as believe her to be plain.
@jlcii
@jlcii 2 жыл бұрын
I am not a Diana Ross fan at all, because she has been very shady, and I've never thought she was that good of a singer. But I will say that there are a couple of songs by her that I like (missing you is a favorite), she definitely is a fashion icon, and her movies were actually pretty good. But it just seems like she had a lot of drama with a lot of people. She disrespected her fellow ladies in the supremes, she disrespected other artists including Patti labelle, she had the baby with Berry Gordy while he was married-and lied about it until that child was a preteen, and she should have never played the role of Dorothy in The Wiz; that should have been Stephanie Mills all day long (who, by the way, kissing Diana's ass under a table any day). The part that bothers me the most is she has never apologized about any of the stuff she has done, or at least not publicly. Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard both are gone now, and Diana never made peace with those women. Diana Ross has her legacy for what it is, because yes she is talented and she did make her mark. But she ain't my cup of tea personally
@cheriedaniels7965
@cheriedaniels7965 2 жыл бұрын
My sentiments exactly 💯
@marissawilson4644
@marissawilson4644 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Stephanie had a thing for MJ. Oooh chile!
@storiking650
@storiking650 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, SHE'S PURE-T TRASH, she was a disgusting mean girl, who would do any & everything to tear down & compromise other female artists like Gladys Knight, Mary Reeves, Mary Wilson & Florence Ballard. She's a shark & that's why the fates made it so that the very thing happened to her that she didn't want to & that was, growing old alone & that's precisely what happened to her!!!!!!!
@falanajerido875
@falanajerido875 2 жыл бұрын
And you telling the truth
@andya1744
@andya1744 2 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head!
@jazzymoni7750
@jazzymoni7750 2 жыл бұрын
She is the purest form of "Blind Ambition" I've ever seen. When I read "Call Her Miss Ross" several years ago, it shed light on why Mary Wilson had so much animosity towards her, along with so many other Motown stars. Regardless of her controversial rise to the top, no one can deny her dominance and sheer work ethic. The dynamic between her and MJ was always a little strange but no one ever spoke of it because it was spun as a big sister/little brother relationship. To hear all this now as a GenX is really sad.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
That book was discredited by everyone who knew her!! Randy Tamborelli has been declared one of the biggest/ most vicious/ lying/ unmitigated Gossips in hollywood!! No one in their right mind would believe what he says! He ✍ whatever U PAY HIM TO SAY!- Are u kidding? He's the Enquirer of the Literary Sect. I can't believe u quoted that gossip rag as if it had ANY credibility!! BTW, he was sued for that book- and LOST!!
@taylorsara253
@taylorsara253 2 жыл бұрын
That book was lies and garbage just like all of Randy's books..
@erossinema8797
@erossinema8797 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently that is what it takes to get to the top. You don't get to the top by being nice. Remember she came from nothing...Her family was kind of poor. She couldnt write songs or music like Madonna and Taylor Swift can
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@erossinema8797 She COULD have written and DID write a few songs. And Ev'thg Tamborello said in that 📖 is false. ALL of his 📚 are full of lies. Even The Jackson's said that...
@erossinema8797
@erossinema8797 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorsara253 , If it was lies, Randy must be one talented writer obsessed with black entertainers. I couldn't put "Call Her Miss Ross" down until I finished reading it.
@missknight1787
@missknight1787 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! As a kid, my Mom always told me MJ was in love with Diana, but I never knew to this extent. Dirty Diana... She did MJ terribly wrong, poor kid. Broke his heart too, wow. I'm a new subscriber and I'm loving these videos. Keep'em coming! Great Work!!!!!!
@cocoaorange1
@cocoaorange1 2 жыл бұрын
I recall when Michael was in Monaco to receive an award, it was rumored he was dating Princess Stephanie, I recall Diana sat on his lap serenading him. He blushed. My mom stated "I know he is not that hard for a woman". LOL!
@SpongeMPCGirl
@SpongeMPCGirl 2 жыл бұрын
She kissed him during that performace too, Diana was wild lmao
@jihangamal5823
@jihangamal5823 2 жыл бұрын
She gave her back to Stephanie too lol
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn 2 жыл бұрын
She was jealous of Princess Stephanie. Just like she sat on his lap when was out with Madonna. And when she inserted herself between Michael & Elizabeth on stage. Or jumped Michael’s bones (seduced him/slept with him) when he was dating Stephanie Mills & Tatum O’Neill. She wanted to show off to these women & mark him as her territory
@valencia9981
@valencia9981 2 жыл бұрын
@@jihangamal5823 she did😂
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
He was NOT dating Steph at all. She was there with her hubby!! And MJ pulled Diana into his lap and held her tight like he"d never let go.. Remember how mesmerized he was? Diana was the LOHL, Steph knew she had no chance...
@armenthamurphy4606
@armenthamurphy4606 2 жыл бұрын
I don't find her behaviour shocking, regular every day people do some of these same things and the only reason it is not known is because they aren't famous so the things they do don't necessarily come into the open unless it is truly horrific; but nothing really surprises me about what people do.
@ericdavis6261
@ericdavis6261 2 жыл бұрын
exactly! 😆👍
@hellobye7697
@hellobye7697 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. This is the case for most of these celebrity scandals. The public love to call out celebs for things we’re ALL guilty for
@CodyCole80
@CodyCole80 2 жыл бұрын
Even though regular people behave that way to get to the top doesn’t mean they should. It’s still not okay.
@yamei2531
@yamei2531 2 жыл бұрын
@@hellobye7697 I totally agree💯 We all fall short of the glory at the end of the day .
@rutherosado4111
@rutherosado4111 2 жыл бұрын
I agree every female group has a diva the supremes had Diana and destiny child Had “queen bee “ Beyoncé.
@Lu31ishLu
@Lu31ishLu 2 жыл бұрын
As a child I always felt like something didn’t add up between them.. this confirms it all
@queenreg7
@queenreg7 2 жыл бұрын
Diana Ross is something else! Totally focused on what she wants out of life and doesn’t let anyone or anything stand in her way. A whole lot of drama in her wake.
@larryanderson7956
@larryanderson7956 2 жыл бұрын
She is an egoist
@SoldierOfLoveForNow
@SoldierOfLoveForNow 2 жыл бұрын
It's not something else its narcissism
@taylorsara253
@taylorsara253 2 жыл бұрын
Weird _ how if she was a man, that trait would be called focus and Ambition!! Only on a woman does it seem to become a negative...
@queenreg7
@queenreg7 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorsara253 That is so true. I don’t find it an attractive trait in anyone, regardless of gender.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Жыл бұрын
Y’all hate Black women who want to succeed in life.
@blakebrown84
@blakebrown84 Жыл бұрын
Diana Ross is a legend in the music business. She goes from being in the group called The Supremes in the 60s to leave the group to go solo. She did well as a solo artist selling millions of records and still making music and touring til this day. Berry Gordy did messed up the Supremes by playing favoritism toward her over Florence Ballard and Mary Wilson. Also, she didn’t have a lot of friends because there were a lot of people that didn’t like her personality. She also failed to make peace with The Supremes.
@raycarter8070
@raycarter8070 Жыл бұрын
I love all three ladies so much! Have ten vinyls. But wrong is wrong. I liked it that Diana talked about this in interviews and her last studio album.
@blakebrown84
@blakebrown84 Жыл бұрын
All of the original Supremes are dead and gone except Ross. We would have loved the reunion, but it never happen. Ross made peace with Mary Wilson before she died.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Жыл бұрын
FLO and Mary didn’t have the voice. NEXT.
@blakebrown84
@blakebrown84 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was the case. They started feeling some resentment towards her. I don’t think Florence liked Diana.
@shenyae4143
@shenyae4143 2 жыл бұрын
Diana Ross didn’t even have the decency to attend his funeral. I have no respect for that thing.
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
She couldn't accept the truth and didn't want to see him that way in that casket
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn Жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides his casket was closed.
@MomoKanjaki
@MomoKanjaki Жыл бұрын
"that thing" 😭
@jojosurrayyah
@jojosurrayyah 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂​@@MomoKanjaki
@dennisjacks7923
@dennisjacks7923 6 ай бұрын
That wasn't his funeral, what was held at the Staples Centre, that was a service memorial for his fans. The proceeds were donated to charity.
@tiffani5353
@tiffani5353 2 жыл бұрын
That's not cool what she did to Michael. Completely toxic and it should have been called out.
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are some things about you that need to be called out. But I hear you.
@tiffani5353
@tiffani5353 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides I'm sure the same goes for you too.
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiffani5353 absolutely. So no need to cast stones as if you're such a perfect person.
@tiffani5353
@tiffani5353 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides I never casted a stone, I just simply stated the truth. As I did in my original comment. You tried it by bringing me in it. So you got the same energy that you came at me with.
@tiffani5353
@tiffani5353 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides No need to get defensive
@andiestewart7423
@andiestewart7423 6 ай бұрын
Dayummm! I knew none of that tea! Good job👍
@merricat3025
@merricat3025 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't like Diana ross. How she treated the other Supremes is disgusting.. She's just another user
@sexythicknj
@sexythicknj 2 жыл бұрын
When one of the members died, you’d think Diana would’ve helped with the funeral. O girl didn’t even have a tomb stone that’s how poor she was living in the projects. Shame on Diana. SMH
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@sexythicknj That's a damn lie! She not only paid for Flo's whole funeral, but she gave her daughters money and paid off Mary's house!! WTF! Yall just make shyt up about ppl! Its ridiculous...
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@sexythicknj you don't even know what you're talking about. She set up an entire trust frund for flos kids. She let Mary borrow money not once but twice. And even helped out Cindy. Flo had her own demons she was dealing with. They weren't angels either. Idk why people think Diana supposed to be responsible for everyone else life. In the late 70's she barely even had any money. You literally had to go to Motown to ask for it. She was set up on a bad deal. But because she was a Motown darling..of course she was granted a little more access. You need to do your research
@veronicapodolig6806
@veronicapodolig6806 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlkalineInsides who is Flo?
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@veronicapodolig6806 Florence Ballard, a founding member of The Supremes.
@shinaerazo6070
@shinaerazo6070 Жыл бұрын
I had noooooo idea the deepness of Diana and Michael’s relationship. 😮
@shenyae4143
@shenyae4143 2 жыл бұрын
Michael deserved better. He should have been walked away from her.
@gerrettafisher4758
@gerrettafisher4758 Жыл бұрын
Diana is a legend and trifling with my boy MJ….like WTH?!! Good ol Hollywood…
@sunshinethirteen
@sunshinethirteen 2 жыл бұрын
im still in awe realizing that "leave me alone" might be for Diana too and not the paparazzi. or both. Michael's good with trying to hide real meanings of his songs lmaooo
@jaywilliams1942
@jaywilliams1942 11 ай бұрын
Leave Me Alone was definitely about her: “Time after time I gave you all of my money/ No excuses to make/ AIN’T NO MOUNTAIN THAT I CAN’T CLIMB, baby/ All is going my way…
@plantsoverpills1643
@plantsoverpills1643 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like DR is a narcissist who looked far and wide for supply, love bombed and discarded her relationships, returning to use them when it served her. She’s so iconic and glamorous because that’s what was most important to her. As she aged and became less relevant, she fell into substance abuse. Clearly she couldn’t love anyone but her own ambitions. But…..she’ll always have Mahogany.
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn Жыл бұрын
I see her mirrored in JLo, even Madonna to an extent. Being relevant & still getting attention is the most important to them. Which is why they’ll never stop working, they need the limelight like oxygen. Miss Ross is performing again.
@thebryanoquinnshow7207
@thebryanoquinnshow7207 Жыл бұрын
She's a pretty great mom ... she loves them and adore her!
@DreamingEdmond
@DreamingEdmond 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve known about this for a couple years. I am a deep dive MJ fan. So I truly don’t like her. She was a social climber. She did anything and anyone to become who she is. She wanted everyone to be a playing piece in her world in order to not get played herself. She rather be at the top alone than share with others. She knew how he felt and took advantage of that. MJ adoring her was an ego boost. That’s why she would sabotage his relationships and show him love to keep him in order. It was sick. I think it’s weird to parent someone only to date them when the child grows older. I truly don’t like her. Even though she made all that backstabbing worth it. Moonwalker4Life💕✨
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn 2 жыл бұрын
The lyric in MJ’s song Human Nature goes “She’s keeping him by keeping him around”. That’s exactly what she did. Kept him hanging. What she did is no different than Woody Allen who married a girl he once parented.
@connicia
@connicia 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I had no idea...she truly fucked MJ up
@DreamingEdmond
@DreamingEdmond 2 жыл бұрын
@@connicia She did and she knew it. That’s why she won’t ever talk about it or him for that matter. She wasn’t there when he was at his lowest.
@micronotsoft6891
@micronotsoft6891 2 жыл бұрын
She didn't like MJ although he was a big guy int the industry she likes white men anyway
@mdavis3610
@mdavis3610 2 жыл бұрын
Coming in the guise of parent, but really a lover.
@sydneykelly5387
@sydneykelly5387 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an interview not to long ago where Gene Simmons talked about how much he loved her, and she was the great love of his life. Thank you for this video. A lot of this information, I did not know
@timmy841212
@timmy841212 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@ntuan9360
@ntuan9360 2 жыл бұрын
Men love mean women
@tshidi129
@tshidi129 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntuan9360 Evidently
@Hi.Shadow
@Hi.Shadow 2 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us which interview this was please?
@turquoisepurple7sky151
@turquoisepurple7sky151 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntuan9360 Men love beautiful women, not ugly fat ones. Men are about looks
@AndreDMalan1966
@AndreDMalan1966 2 жыл бұрын
People seldom reach this level of fame without being self obsessed, and once that level the rules change for them. Its hardly unique. I love her.
@mwilde7521
@mwilde7521 4 ай бұрын
Underrated comment, I agree with you 100%.
@shawnlittle73
@shawnlittle73 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson was my IDOL.. and yes Michael Jackson fan’s didn’t care too much Diana Ross! She used him and turned her back on him leading to his death. When you do a video of King of Pop! Stay in chronological order with his career’s or I will critique your video. I still tear up or cry, when people speaks about him!! I came sooo close of working with him as a dancer!!!
@rvegas81
@rvegas81 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was weird how it was shown that he and Diana were close friends. But in the 90s-you never saw her stand by him, neither did Sheryl Crow, or Madonna. I think that everyone was too cautious over the child allegations. But I never knew they were romatically involved. That's the craziest part to me, but MJ and Diana's dance skills on the Wiz are something that can never really be emulated.
@Milkers777
@Milkers777 2 жыл бұрын
@@rvegas81 *False Allegations
@MissLexiMarlene
@MissLexiMarlene 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize how much I love Diana Ross until you started playing all of her singles. 😭 love you Karine! My favorite song of hers is also Missing you! It’s in a playlist I made in tribute to my grandma who passed away this year. 💜💜💜
@valrice817
@valrice817 Жыл бұрын
She lived her life by her own terms! I remember watching her concert in Central Park when it started to rain. She asked someone to bring her a coat that was fur and then kept singing in the rain! I loved every minute of it! Thanks for the video! 😊
@veldasorrentino4216
@veldasorrentino4216 2 жыл бұрын
I did not know that about Michael and Diana. I knew he was obsessed about her but not why. Poor Michael he didn’t have a chance. She was a pro at manipulation since he was born…… She’s still a legend
@theodorajackson6233
@theodorajackson6233 2 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely upsetting that Michael Jackson had to go through so much Michael Jackson didn't deserve the mistreatment that he had gotten himself into Michael Jackson didn't deserve this at all he absolutely didn't deserve the treatment at all the phone call he had was heartbreaking i don't think he deserve that nightmare the fact that people had the nerve to acuse him of stuff that wasn't even true I Don't get why people do this
@nancyedpinoza7164
@nancyedpinoza7164 Жыл бұрын
4 veces absoluto jijijiji
@nancyedpinoza7164
@nancyedpinoza7164 Жыл бұрын
4 veces absoluto jijijiji
@nancyedpinoza7164
@nancyedpinoza7164 Жыл бұрын
4 veces absoluto jijijiji
@nancyedpinoza7164
@nancyedpinoza7164 Жыл бұрын
4 veces absoluto jijijiji
@princesskristan
@princesskristan Жыл бұрын
I started listening to Diana's music after watching The Wiz for the first time when I was 8 or 10. My favorite songs were Upside down and Love Hangover but after hearing Muscles because of MJ writing it for her and did background vocals, that became my number one favorite. I knew that Michael and some of his brothers lived with her, but I never knew about the other stuff. My jaw is on the floor, and I truly believe MJ never got over Diana
@terrydillon9323
@terrydillon9323 2 жыл бұрын
Both Michael, and Diana two of the greatest musicians out there. That profession can be so stressful and demanding, enter in the love emotions of the human species and there can be problems. I still admire them both. Their music is a gift to us. We all make mistakes with love, it is an intense emotion . Sometimes their is painful rejection, we have to realize that.
@dcg590
@dcg590 Жыл бұрын
You’re a sheep. The industry decides who’s successful and who is r. Wake up
@liannemarie2504
@liannemarie2504 Жыл бұрын
He was a child?! Are you serious?! That's absolutely absurd. Stop worshipping humans, ffs
@jasmin6941
@jasmin6941 2 жыл бұрын
I was very shocked and disturbed that Diana Ross wasn’t at Michael Jackson’s funeral … I watched the whole funeral because it was televised and I didn’t see a trace of Diana Ross at all , after watching this video I wonder if the sour relationship they had is the reason why she wasn’t there
@lindadenneypu6315
@lindadenneypu6315 2 жыл бұрын
I bet his mum was like he'll no u cradle Robin b***h u nt gonna b at my boys funeral and I wouldn't blame her either
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn Жыл бұрын
She sent a note that was read out. She said staying away “felt right” for her.
@AndreaElizabeth100
@AndreaElizabeth100 Жыл бұрын
Debbie Rowe wasn't at the funeral either. Debbie is the mother of Michael's two eldest children and she is his ex-wife. I guess people have different ways of coping with grief. I would have personally wanted to be at the funeral to pay my respects but everyone is different. Michael mentioned Diana Ross in his will so he still loved her he wanted her to look after his children if his mother Katherine couldn't. As far as we know the will is genuine. I think there were other significant people in Michael Jackson's life who were not at his funeral. Many women seemed to like Michael Jackson. He said he wanted a woman who either didn't know who he was or had her own money/career. Diana Ross had her own money and career and she was there from early Motown days.
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te Ай бұрын
Uh she wasn’t there because she cried in her bed and couldn’t get up for a whole week
@msg4141
@msg4141 Жыл бұрын
She was the least talented of The Supremes but the most ambitious. Goes to show how far determination, ambition and guile can get you, folks.
@girlmom1312
@girlmom1312 6 ай бұрын
Yep... then, along came Bouncy (Beyonce) to do the same thing. Basic, but that determination is real!
@nica7747
@nica7747 6 ай бұрын
Frrrr
@cece8494
@cece8494 6 ай бұрын
Vile Mike is dead, Cindy Birdsong is dead and I believe Mary Wilson is dead. Cindy allegedly was an alcoholic, Mary Wilson alledgedly wanted Tom Jones to leave his wife. She was talented. I hate sovial media all it is does is tear people down. For what, A few pennies.
@tanisha.r.thomas
@tanisha.r.thomas 5 ай бұрын
And, she probably took some pipe
@fauzianalwoga
@fauzianalwoga 5 ай бұрын
Just like beyonce
@jessebriee3918
@jessebriee3918 Жыл бұрын
Diana read Michael, his dysfunctional family concerns, etc. She befriended him, he was a muse to her. How very disturbing. I always wondered about the song, Dirty Diana. I knew there was more to it, thew what we the public was lead to believe. Also, I knew about her love triangle with Cher and Gene Simmons. I read somewhere Cher was crushed, she meet Gene after breaking up with David Geffen. Thank you for sharing the bigger picture about Diana.
@julierobinson8173
@julierobinson8173 2 жыл бұрын
We thank these people for their talents and that's all. We need nothing more...
@SoldierOfLoveForNow
@SoldierOfLoveForNow 2 жыл бұрын
You should be thanking god for what he gave them.
@julierobinson8173
@julierobinson8173 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoldierOfLoveForNow yes 👍🏾
@granny58
@granny58 Жыл бұрын
@@SoldierOfLoveForNow hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahah hahahah hahahahahahahaha hahahahahah
@ruth-uk4yw
@ruth-uk4yw 11 ай бұрын
​@@SoldierOfLoveForNow😂😂
@loughton57
@loughton57 Жыл бұрын
Circa 1974..she was shopping in a famous department store NYC . I was a sales person there at the time. She walked over to me and said she loved my skirt. It was an authentic vintage very dark navy midi skirt from the 30s or 40s
@brielax4441
@brielax4441 2 жыл бұрын
I love Diana BIG EYES: I love beautiful big eyes. Diana is a legend and a beautiful woman!
@tshidi129
@tshidi129 2 жыл бұрын
It's the hair for me
@brielax4441
@brielax4441 2 жыл бұрын
@@tshidi129 that too 🥰
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
Its the fun loving captivating spirit for me. She's awesome...
@ladybird491
@ladybird491 Жыл бұрын
Her eyeballs are wide with alot of white space and big but her pupils are not big, mines is bigger and my eyes are bigger.
@PurpleRegina
@PurpleRegina 11 күн бұрын
Her eyes are not just big. They look like eggs and not cute
@cathyhilton5298
@cathyhilton5298 5 ай бұрын
Wow, heart breaks for Michael I don't think he Had TRUE friends.😢
@myp0h
@myp0h 5 ай бұрын
justin beaver seems to be in MJ's shoes
@minatozaki8271
@minatozaki8271 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a video of Mrs. Katherine Jackson and Diana interaction 😂 Diana was happily singing while Mrs. Jackson maintain _POKER FACE_ expression throughout the entire performance HAHAHAHA
@StrongerThanYsterday
@StrongerThanYsterday 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Diana played with Michael’s heart but I was SHOOK to know this new informations about their relationship from you!! no wonder MJ’s fans hated her she played Michael left right and center 😭💔
@turquoisepurple7sky151
@turquoisepurple7sky151 2 жыл бұрын
How? You all are so dumb. You mean a boy who had a crush on someone who did not see him as a contender and she treated him like a child, as she should have. You are listening to a KZbinr who was not born in the 60's but the 2000's and getting her info from the internet...🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃
@wasabiginger6993
@wasabiginger6993 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this enlightening video. I have been doing deep dives on Michael Jackson wanting to fully understand the truth of ALL he endured, as well as about his death. So I did come across things said about Ross and MJ … but there are so many lies out there I held back believing them … until hearing your findings. So again, thank you. Between getting beaten by his dad and then the way Ross treated him … any wonder another great reason for his fantasy estate to escape it all?!? Given all I have learned, not sure he would want to come back to do it again. Tina Turner stated towards the end of her life about her life that the negative outweighed the positive. May she rest in deep peace & love.
@lindaknaras8828
@lindaknaras8828 2 жыл бұрын
That is so sad because Michael could have been in a wonderful regular life. why family and other people traumatized him so bad.
@kaylenejantjes8113
@kaylenejantjes8113 2 жыл бұрын
I struggle with understanding the part with Michael. I remember in his book, Moonwalk, he referred to her as 'mother' and 'lover' in the same sentence - the Sigmund Freud vibes. I wonder how Diana felt about Brooke Shields, Lisa Marie Presley and Elizabeth Taylor.
@noproblems3192
@noproblems3192 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Michael and Diana were seeing each other STILL even after all the manipulation (that’s what I call it anyway lol)
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn 2 жыл бұрын
She was jealous as all hell. But she just wanted to make sure her hold on him was forever. She visited him in hospital in 1995 & it caused problems for Lisa Marie coz MJ allowed Diana but refused to see Lisa Marie. And Diana sat on his lap at the World Music Awards in 1996. She kept her claws in. Narcissistic relationships are hard to get over, Trauma bonds are hard to break. But she didn’t show up for his funeral coz she wouldn’t be the centre of attention.
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 2 жыл бұрын
Brooke said it was platonic , not a full sexual relationship. Lisa Marie stated in a TV interview Michael was only interested at the start, because he desperately wanted children. When she suggested they wait ( because she feared he wasn't mature enough for fatherhood) he instantly distanced himself & their marriage went downhill from there.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
Kaylee You are being misled. Lisa was the one who was jealous, with very good reason. . MJ had Lisa removed from Beth Israel hosp. Before Diana even got there!. Diana had nothing to do with her being removed.. Also, MJ also asked Lisa NOT to come back and put her name on the 🚫list. He Also admitted that he only cared for Lisa as only a friend n said he wished her well, but had no further interest in her. ..It was always Diana for him...
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and Lisa showed up at the funeral TO BE the center of attention after trashing him for 10 yrs straight bcuz he would not take her back...
@slondinium
@slondinium 2 жыл бұрын
I never looked up to or cared about her career or music.However hearing about her behaviour with MJ I feel disturbed I cannot fathom people ignoring the fact she met MJ at 9 and was allegedly intimate horrid.Worse than Leo Di Caprio weird for sure one should keep the same energy grooming children is wrong period.
@psremington
@psremington 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t believe everything you read or hear!
@deborahjudge3191
@deborahjudge3191 Жыл бұрын
yes i agree. i never new this until i watched this. Im disgusted
@twiggs65
@twiggs65 7 ай бұрын
How true can this be when D was in his will as being one of the possible guardians of his children.
@motownr313
@motownr313 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up near Diana in Detroit! I was a young girl and just loved her! Wanted to grow up to be like her. I will always treasure her with my innocent childhood memories. Motown was a great time for the city and the nation. Thank you for your hard work. I love what you do.
@sofetchxx
@sofetchxx 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I had no idea Dirty Diana was about Diana Ross! That’s my fave MJ song and now I wish I could hear the original!
@HH-green
@HH-green 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if there is anyone who didn't take advantage of MJ. Apart from a few people, it seems everyone had the same agenda. The sad thing is that, when you need love and attention, you let others use and walk all over you; you don't stand up for yourself. I don't know why but I feel like MJ was going through this. I think his fans really gave him strength. He was the best and will always be the best.
@1971_happylifedog
@1971_happylifedog 2 жыл бұрын
Back before Elizabeth Taylor died I dated a man who was in her circle who stated that Michael and Elizabeth were not lovers.
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te Ай бұрын
Nobody said they were. They were just good friends.
@laurenmungaray3912
@laurenmungaray3912 2 жыл бұрын
MJ seems to have a big crush on Diana ever since he was a child and Diana must have led him on then threw him away when she became bored.
@Lululila67
@Lululila67 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up listening to her music. It really spoke to my soul. So much emotion. Ain't no Mountain is one of my favorites by her. But I love many of her songs. When I heard her on the radio it was like she was there in the room speaking to anyone and everyone.
@ofajim1
@ofajim1 Жыл бұрын
Not sure why Diana is being villainized. She seemed to genuinely care about Michael, but the agist, misogynistic media tore her apart, as they do women who are older in age gap relationships. Diana is a legend.
@meenballa999
@meenballa999 Ай бұрын
feminism rotted your brain lol
@Phoenx707
@Phoenx707 2 жыл бұрын
Now I understand his heartbreak in the song “You’re out of my Life”. I heard rumors but I didn’t want to believe that about her. That she could she treat him like that. 💔💔💔
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te Ай бұрын
I don’t think, “she’s out of my life” was about her. I think it was about Tatum or something because this was in the off the wall era, and he didn’t even write it so
@princesscaprice
@princesscaprice 2 жыл бұрын
She is so beautiful and I loved her in Mahogany. My favorite songs from her are Upside Down and Love Hangover 💞
@sheilaciappetta5937
@sheilaciappetta5937 5 ай бұрын
Anorexia was very prevalent through the 1970's and 1980's
@valvacious2793
@valvacious2793 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at her past, Diana ALWAYS went after the songwriters who made her hits. 1. Holland-Dozier-Holland was a songwriting and production team behind the Supremes. 2. In the book, "All that Glittered: My Life with the Supremes" by Tony Turner, he tells the story of the Supremes from his and Flo's perspective. He talks about where one of the wives of HDH came down to beat up Ms. Ross for dating her husband. 3. He says: Florence had to intervene and told the wife of the songwriter she better get lost, or Florence was gonna beat her butt. Florence was stacked and had a womanly figure before Diana. The lady left. 4. He also talked about how Berry Gordy hit on Florence first but got turned down
@marblequartz3890
@marblequartz3890 Жыл бұрын
Damn... Diana IS really Dirty. Lol Home-wrecking Heart-breaking stepping over everyone involved.
@JesusOnlyWay-d8e
@JesusOnlyWay-d8e Жыл бұрын
is florence the one who they let go from the Supremes???
@valvacious2793
@valvacious2793 Жыл бұрын
@@JesusOnlyWay-d8e - yes, she got kicked out of the group.
@eggedon6112
@eggedon6112 Жыл бұрын
#4 Makes sense, because Flo was the sexy one that male fans loved. But she wasn't easily manipulated like desperate Diana, so he focused on her. In the end, Flo suffered and Gordy and Ross treated her poorly in the end. Opportunists. Narcissists. Masochistic abusers. Sad. Don't worship celebrities...most are mentally disturbed.
@ctruth6185
@ctruth6185 Жыл бұрын
Diana Ross started the business at age 15. She was nothing but a bony girl w/o hips lacking a woman's body. But she's seducing all these grown men and is invulnerable & indestructible. That's just more myth makng. Diana Ross is an industry survivor and a lot of people don't like it.
@YTuser854
@YTuser854 2 жыл бұрын
The way Michael made so many songs about her 😥😥
@princessyonnie100
@princessyonnie100 Жыл бұрын
Dirty Diana was about her?!
@YTuser854
@YTuser854 Жыл бұрын
@@princessyonnie100 Yes!
@OnyxxRose
@OnyxxRose 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t lie all I could think of was how gorgeous her photos and clips are. Like she’s really a beautiful woman and got better with time. I’m so inspired by her hairstyles especially wow
@Lili11765
@Lili11765 7 ай бұрын
Wow I never knew any of this thanks for the 411 still love Diana
@tywaunjones7396
@tywaunjones7396 2 жыл бұрын
She out of my life was a real heart breaker , cause you can even hear him cry at the end of the song 🎵. I love dirty Diana. One reason cause I know it was made for her. Remember the time. (When we first met girl) then when he started holling at her like Do you remember girl …… on the phone you and me till dawn till 3:00 what about us girl. Who is it . ( who is it this time) I can’t stop loving you.( then if I stop then tell me just what would I do) That sounds like an obsession. And many more. Diana you broke Michael heart ❤️. SMH 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💯💪🏽
@simonepeterson3301
@simonepeterson3301 2 жыл бұрын
I love diana Ross, but she is the epitome of what u call a Diva ,and she takes.take that title very seriously
@merricat3025
@merricat3025 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say she's more of an epitome of a ho
@latonyamorris2208
@latonyamorris2208 2 жыл бұрын
A real Diva Like Dianne Carol, Lena Horn, Eartha Kitt, En Vogue etc.
@cressapellom4205
@cressapellom4205 2 жыл бұрын
And I don't know why, she isn't the greatest singer and got where she is by sleeping with her married boss.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
@@latonyamorris2208 That's a lie. She got where is by talent and hard work...
@AlkalineInsides
@AlkalineInsides 2 жыл бұрын
@@cressapellom4205 um...I think the fans spoke louder than just her having a sex life lol
@Fairydust4
@Fairydust4 Жыл бұрын
Did everyone forget that Dreamgirls was inspired by the Supremes?
@tamara_diamonds422
@tamara_diamonds422 4 ай бұрын
No one forgot stupid. This video is not talking about the actual group.
@quioshathomas1069
@quioshathomas1069 2 жыл бұрын
I had to go back and listen to the lyrics of Dirty Diana. I was definitely blown away if this is true. Wow
@coco_isback8688
@coco_isback8688 2 жыл бұрын
i've been waiting for a great analysis of diana's career/life - and you delivered Karine. since I was a kid i've always adored her but realized she was complex. perfect video yet again.
@mjmedia09returns
@mjmedia09returns Жыл бұрын
Michael was 20 years old when the The Movie the Wiz was made in 1978. He was born 1958.
@Perfectpearl
@Perfectpearl 6 ай бұрын
Okay?
@annmariebusu9924
@annmariebusu9924 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I was told Dirty Diana was about Diana Ross😂. I never disliked Diana though. I thought he was obsessed with an older woman.
@lisawilli1834
@lisawilli1834 2 жыл бұрын
As a child, I always thought she was the most beautiful person I've ever seen
@munirayussuf8558
@munirayussuf8558 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@asiawilliams2240
@asiawilliams2240 Жыл бұрын
You must be visually impaired.
@PurpleRegina
@PurpleRegina 11 күн бұрын
I don’t see why. She has big eye balls
@dcundeniable7804
@dcundeniable7804 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely did not know about the Cher love triangle. Awesome job Sis
@JaeSwift10JamellaSwift
@JaeSwift10JamellaSwift Жыл бұрын
You need snacks for this video. JUICY!
@lolawilson1027
@lolawilson1027 2 жыл бұрын
Who would have known that Diana Ross was infatuated with underage Michael Jackson, but I am not surprised because the entire industry is obsessed with children. Thank you for posting these videos. Your channel is the best!
@cocoaorange1
@cocoaorange1 2 жыл бұрын
She did treat Florence badly. I am sure she has regrets.
@leannesmith5818
@leannesmith5818 Жыл бұрын
Can we just not let Michael rest in peace
@kiwirebelo
@kiwirebelo Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Sometimes it's very annoying people are always talking more about MJ and they believe everything on the internet and KZbin videos
@bebesniece2899
@bebesniece2899 2 жыл бұрын
i been saying she groomed michael ! finally ppl r talking about it 🤦🏾‍♀️
@User-gi9te
@User-gi9te Ай бұрын
She didn’t groom Mike you guys need to leave it alone.
@kamkam.
@kamkam. 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love a breakdown on Mariah Carey. She revealed so much about her abusive e childhood and then her abusive relationship with Tommy. Would love your take on her life
@garycooper9207
@garycooper9207 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Her sister said they were abused, even sexually. It is horrible.. I have no idea how Mariah survived her childhood and then Tommy..
@garycooper9207
@garycooper9207 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mariah has the best singing voice
@africanchild4525
@africanchild4525 2 жыл бұрын
There is something about her eyes that makes me like her no matter what, her voice too!
@ifallthingsmatter
@ifallthingsmatter 9 ай бұрын
Diana Ross is certainly a femme fatale. She used men to get to the top like Barry and Gene. She wasn't even the most prettiest or the best singer of the Supremes but she got the lead singer role. Later when Michael Jackson came into her life, she also made use of him to stay relevant and attain more fame. MJ truly loved her but she didn't feel the same. She led him on and broke his heart. She is no legend to me.
@giuliettamassina7787
@giuliettamassina7787 2 жыл бұрын
I once went to have my hair done and she was in the next chair. I respect her accomplishments, but she never had a great voice or was the beauty they told us she was. Not to mention the diva stories. Florence was a better singer by far. I was so happy when Whitney, a real beauty and extraordinary singer, came along and became the main black woman star then. Florence was a better singer by far.
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing what false eyelashes and glittering make up & clothes can conceal. People really fall for the superficial, especially men.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 2 жыл бұрын
Well Millions of ppl would disagree. She's definitely a beauty and charismatic as hell. Lots of haters in these posts. And as I recall, ppl treated Whitney the SAME way they"re treating Di. Just sad how strong that green eyed monster is...
@globalcitizenn
@globalcitizenn Жыл бұрын
@@taylorsara1237 Whitney was a genuine person, beautiful inside out & extraordinarily talented. Diana was not Whitney. But She was glamorous & talented in makeup & fashion & manipulation. Both are very different people.
@taylorsara1237
@taylorsara1237 Жыл бұрын
@@globalcitizenn Whitney was a drug addict fool!! What's Genuine about that? U are just Sooo desperate to put Diana down, you'll make up Any nonsense! So pathetic...
@valeriekarl9965
@valeriekarl9965 2 жыл бұрын
Diana Ross ruined MJ's relationship with women. After her, he never wanted to settle down with any other women. That rs left him deeply scar for life. Some rs help you grow as a person and other destroy you and his rs with Diana Ross destroy him. He met as a CHILD and he would fantasize about her from a young age. She would spend one on one time since he was young like going to art gallery and that would make him feel special since he didn't receive much love growing up from his parents. Once MJ became a teenager, he became infatuated with her, she also started to touch him innapropriatly, going from kissing on the cheeck to the neck, touching his tight and invinting him to her house to spent some "quality time". When MJ became of age (18), he lost his vcard to her which was a big deal to him since he was a jehovah witness and was tought to wait until marriage to have sex. He didn't like the idea of having sex before marriage, but Diana would told him that "everybody sins and that its alright." She made bedroom's promises that she was one day going to marry him, but they had to keep their rs private bc Diana fears the public's opinion and only care about her image. She then marry another man and ask MJ to walk her down the aile (the NERVE). MJ was however to heartbroken to attend her wedding. She kept having sex with him even after marrying her secong husband in 1986. MJ even believed at first that Evan was his son when he first heard that Diana was pregnant again, but that before realizing that Evan was obviously biracial. Diana never wanted MJ she only used him to futher her career. She used him a her own puppet. She didn't want him, but also didn't want MJ to be with any other women. After all the demage she had done on him, MJ never trusted any other women and refuses to settle down or to be commited to anybody. His marriage to Lisa M. and Debbie were just for publicity since he was still intimate with Diana during both marriage. When Diana abandoned him during both Trial and would ask interviewers not to her any question about MJ. He NEVER got over he and at the end of his life he was desesperate that he wanted to date girls that looks like her or have close personality to hers. The Man had a shrine dedicate to her, if that its not devotion idk what it is. She grooms him from a young age and tought him to like her and only her. He even said it "i never like any woman more than Diana and i never will". She was the Love of His life and unfortunately its was once sided all in his mind. He wanted forever and Diana was all about bs. He wrote "Who is it", Dirty Diana, Remember the Time, the lady in my life, liberian girl, Dangerous and the list goes on and they were all about HER. She was the only women with who wanted biological children with (none of his kids are His biological children). Diana didn't kill, but she contributed to his demise. She is the woman that hurt him the MOST in his short life. He was obsessed and madly in love with her and she only loved herself. Poor MJ he was very naive and he fooled himself. He always loved her even till the very end. She was on his eyes "the one that got away". He never recover from her and still believed that one day they would be togheter, but as we know that day never happened. She was the love of his life and any women who claimed different is lying to herself. Fuck that Bitch RIP MJ, 4EVER THE ONE AND ONLY KING OF POP. 1958-ETERNITY ❤️
@Arienhn
@Arienhn 2 жыл бұрын
This is filled with so many lies it’s INSANE.
@nomorecrocs
@nomorecrocs 2 жыл бұрын
when I became a homeowner, It's my house and I live here, became my favorite tune by her
@danavixen6274
@danavixen6274 2 жыл бұрын
Classic! Grew up on that song! ❤️
@bluelove3834
@bluelove3834 2 жыл бұрын
Great job you’re the first person that I’ve seen who showed the human other side to MJ. The media likes to push a narrative about him that is very one dimensional. Mike was in love I saw that article were he called her his mother/lover/sister❤️
@tiffany5257
@tiffany5257 Жыл бұрын
she’s my idol! She’s just a girl from the projects that came up from the mud to become glamorous and powerful! I love her.
@denisewilliams4022
@denisewilliams4022 2 жыл бұрын
She ruined Michael’s life by grooming him.
@rturney6376
@rturney6376 2 жыл бұрын
Happydrunk don’t listen to everything in the media. You fool. The Deep State did Michael in. Hope the same 😊happens to you!
@denisewilliams4022
@denisewilliams4022 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober yes I’m serious. I don’t believe that movie that you mentioned.
@koala201211
@koala201211 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober does the documentary provide proof that wasn't debunked by the two court cases?
@aizenzae4510
@aizenzae4510 2 жыл бұрын
@@happydrunkmeansober it's funny that you actually believe that as they were caught lying. They wasn't telling the truth. Dumbass do the research you goofy ass, ignorant ass bitch.
@aizenzae4510
@aizenzae4510 2 жыл бұрын
@@koala201211 the documentary didn't provide no proof. But funny thing is that a lot of ppl including fans or just new ppl watching about MJ ended up doing research on the documentary and debunked things themselves. Actually a non MJ fan debunked the whole documentary about the time and date of things cuz it's public records online 💀 happydrunkmeansober is a dick riding hater tbh. Nigga needs help for not doing research
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