Did anyone catch that 20? 😏

As a wizard, rolling a simple 8d6 would make everyone wait for me while I roll on and on and on and...

[@EtherWolf2459]

And then you get to 6 rolls and forget what you've added up to so far

[@EnigmaSakura]

Quite simply *Just buy 8*

@@EtherWolf2459 That is so me 😁

@@EnigmaSakura and I will need 25 of them when I hit level 20 😁

[@BrownsheepBF]

@ So buy 25 of them. Hook them up to some elaborate Rube Goldberg machine so that a marble run sets each "Die" to spin in sequence and tally up the results at the end.

[@Astral_Drago]

When I spend $60 on something I expect it not to have a huge link on it.

[@TheJjcczz]

People have already talked about sanding it off, but personally I’d reach out and ask for one without the link or for the exact paint they use

[@thomasalvarez2089]

Link?

[@vintage-radio]

I didn't even notice the link until he said the company's name

[@TheXtremeBoltGuy]

Warforged, you say...? 😏

[@JoelLopez-ho6xf]

😏

[@Froyorionpop]

what am i missing

[@RandomCommentMakerPerson]

​@@Froyorionpopwho knows

[@milokiss8276]

Warforged are based as fuck. Go for it.

[@TheXtremeBoltGuy]

@@milokiss8276 dude, my first ever character was a Warforged. I love playing those

[@strawman3859]

there a reason we don't normally use dials they develop a bias in there spin semi quickly

[@clankplusm]

Getting a enclosed-lubricated ball bearing for the dial, and/or stopping the dial randomly (spin it fast, wait 2sec, hit it with palm of your hand to stop the spin suddenly) should keep it fair enough for a very long time.

[@Asghaad]

user also can "develop a bias" ... the thing would be really easy to cheat ...

[@strawman3859]

@@clankplusm you would be amazed how fast it can still happen in devices that just need to spin its not a issue but when i worked on gambling devices this was a huge issue i had to basically become a expert in this when making parts for wheel of fortune to make my states gambling commission happy

[@MsArchitectschannel]

@@strawman3859 no, you didn't "become an expert" you knew a medium amount about a very small selection of mechanical objects relating to a very specific problem. Stopping it at a random time can't be bias, letting it stop naturally would be bias, they are completely different (at realistic spinning speeds and reasonable randomness, at slow speeds and wanting to be 100% random will be impossible. but being 99.999% random is better than dice anyway)

[@strawman3859]

@@MsArchitectschannel that wasnt hyperbole I am expert certified in two states and by the gambling commision in the wear of objects and how it effects outcomes dials do not evenly. If you think you can make a friction object that doesn't than you are claiming physics is wrong. You won't get anything close to 99% as they wear a low spot that it will always land on

[@laggybum3218]

I have one of those! It does spin for a very long time though, not forever, but a long time.

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

My guess would be, it spins as long as hard you spin it.

[@laggybum3218]

@@MikaeruDaiTenshi and if you practice, you can get it to stop where you want it to.

[@RowanWolf22]

@@laggybum3218so.. if you play a rogue it would be fitting 🤣

[@gnomewarlord8962]

​@@laggybum3218so kind of like a regular die if you learn how to throw a die correctly you can get it to usually land on the face you want there's also a technique you can use for flipping a coin that does exactly the same thing

[@RandomCommentMakerPerson]

​@@gnomewarlord8962I've tried but gravity's pretty damn hard to control, and spinning something at a certain strength and braking it at a certain time is probably easier

[@JazzyJake4]

Who else thought this reminded them of the decoder pin from A Christmas Story 😂😂

[@jacksonreasoner1408]

I am using one of these for my artificer. Its downsides are that you have to hold it still or else the chassis will spin as well, and you can’t really use it with advantage or disadvantage unless you want to take 10 seconds each time

[@Chaosghoul]

just get two :D

[@feuerling]

Just look away and stop the wheel at a random point

[@blackwing1362]

With the power of buying two

[@TheWeaponshold]

How about a dual wheeled one? It cannot function as all dice at once but if you had one with the same readout and wheel facing opposite directions, maybe with one face marked to be the "main" roll face so people cannot try to use it in a shiesty way. Then you can roll 2 at a time for (dis)advantage and get through any other rolls like 8d6 twice as fast. There are drawbacks with this no matter what though. But its still really cool.

[@Silverwind87]

​@@ChaosghoulThat would also help for when you need to roll percentile dice.

[@ArkayeCh]

I love these! Great way to keep things light for single dice games.

[@ians7184]

If only they didn't slap their website on such a great looking product

[@stdjunior]

Sand it off starting 220 ending 400 grit Then polish

[@GewelReal]

​@@stdjuniorHi I'm Polish

[@Gothic_Lillith]

​@@GewelRealguess we're using you🤷‍♂️

[@R1sen_One]

☠️​@@Gothic_Lillith

[@Gothic_Lillith]

@@R1sen_One that's me :3

[@ghostdager23]

All of these dice are beautiful. I love the steampunk one.

[@idontknow8386]

Bro just rolled a nat 20 and moved on like it was nothing

[@Trainboy1EJR]

Spin until you win, edit out all the fails.

[@sabinrawr]

Not only was it a natural 20, or was also a max roll on the d10s and d8. I'm thinking if you flip it over, it's also a max roll on the d12, d6, and D4.

[@TristanUnChained]

Yeah but he Nat 1s at the end of the video.

[@Mohamad-95-homs]

‏• اللَّهُمَّ إنِّي أَعُوذُ بِك مِنْ زَوَالِ نِعْمَتَك وَتَحَوَّل عَافِيَتَك وفجاءة نَقِمَتِك وَجَمِيع سَخَطِك❣️

[@Pain_train_wielder]

I imagine a warforged who uses an altered one of these as a visualization of their ability checks

[@BGKyouhen]

I've got one of these, it's great! I find it's better to just manually stop it instead of letting it spin down, it can take a while. (Also not sure just how balanced it is, it does feel like it's a little wobbly when it spins so stopping it manually should help keep it a bit more random)

[@PerfidiousGoober]

That’s so cool! I just hate that they plopped their website on top. I wonder if it would screw anything up if I just took a file to it. I don’t wanna screw up the paint job or god forbid the actual spinning

[@midoi8161]

you wont ruin the spinning, but you will mess up the paint cause it's obviously not painted under the letters you're removing.

[@PerfidiousGoober]

@@midoi8161 yeah, about the spinning, im just not sure how strong the metal is. Im scared I might bend it so the outer covering would touch the spinner. Plus, i imagine getting the stain that color would be difficult. Idk why they put their website right at the top of it

[@salmonellaII]

ugh I just noticed that, wonder if it's possible to just sand it down

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

Yeah it's corny they out the website there, but who cares anyway? Just leave it there like

[@TheJjcczz]

You could try asking them for one without the website on top or for the exact paint they used. They also have a bunch of different colours, but colour matching antique brass wouldn’t be too hard, I’ve seen loads of custom props that use this same look

[@Treysor101]

"Santa's got a dragon!" 🤣

[@sprewthizzle]

Came to the comments for this, IDK why😅🙈🎅😤🔥🔥🐉💪🏾love it tho

[@spark.stream]

I have the holiday version, they’re really nice, while I haven’t used them in a campaign yet the spinning is a really great balance of smoothness and speed so it doesn’t go to long

[@BroadcastingChaos]

I have one of these with a beautiful polished orange stone as the spinner.

[@fate8718]

The funniest thing You can train yourself to roll any damn roll you want with those

[@Noobixm]

I can already do that with normal dice, fear me mortals

[@fate8718]

@N00B1XM I mean you can do it with normal dice its just nowhere near as reliable as a spinner Assuming it still looks 100% legit

[@tonyharris6830]

Playing as a warforged kenku right now. Basically I didn’t want to talk like a damn bird so I combined the two as if I was a kenku who had been tortured and experimented on with warforged parts. Pretty fun!

[@pieterpuk7684]

I wish it didn't have the website plastered across the top of it. Also, this type of "dice" stops being fun the second you have to roll two or more of something.

[@youdungoofed1]

I would use it for important single die rolls. And yea, i would file the website off.

[@TsadiqP]

It's just another drop shipper, looks like. Very hastily and poorly made website.

[@Anthony-uz5tj]

if its metal you can just sand it off

[@sparshgongale1943]

Everybody gangsta until this comes in a mathematical probability question

[@xtremetuberVII]

"Look, Santa's got a dragon." Was not something I was expecting to hear......ever.

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

I got the kickstarter of that. They're great. The biggest problem with the ones I have is that they're not balanced. If you set it flat, it works great. But if you tip it, it's very clearly weighted to one side. If you tip it even slightly off flat, it will always roll the same number, no matter where it lands. Still, it's very fun to play with.

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

While I totally love the idea and would like to have one or two, I'm not comfortable paying over 50 for it. It's probably worth it's money, but it's not worth it for me.

[@niklasschmidt3610]

Just buy a handcrafted D20 made from gemstones for 2000 bucks XD. 50 is almost for free, compared to other "pretty" options for dice.

[@chall3ng33v3rything]

Also has the company’s website on the product not a huge fan

[@jikkybytt]

​@@niklasschmidt3610regular dice cost me 2 to 3 bucks at aliexpress

[@MikaeruDaiTenshi]

@@niklasschmidt3610 I mean it's "expensive" for me, because so far, I only use digital dice (dndbeyond and pathfinder2 app) So I don't really use or collect physical dice, so 50+ is quite a lot in that regard

[@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179]

​@@niklasschmidt3610Yeah, this is why I don't really buy many dices, if at all, I mean this one may deserve the price but when it's literally just a plastic set of (regular) dices, I often wonder if the prices are justified

[@ArcadesSabbouth]

There are 2 problems with spinners. First, unlike dice they have memory. What was spun before does affect the next result. Second, it is possible to get ambiguous results as landing on a line between numbers is both possible and common.

[@joshlewis8860]

Okay, well dice also have memory depending on which side you have face up when you roll it. The solution to that one is very simple. Just give it a little spin before your next “roll”, or fidget with it while it’s not your turn. Voila, now it’s random. And if you’re concerned with it stopping on the line, just always choose the number on the left or right if it is truly indiscernible. But most of the time it’s going to be easy to tell which side it’s leaning towards. The real downsides are only being able to spin one at a time, and the amount of time it takes to stop. Those combined mean you still need to have some dice on hand, because nobody likes waiting forever for someone to roll. And yeah, someone could use a spinner and easily cheat by lying about rolls but they were going to do that anyway. Solution to that one is don’t play with that person.

[@lunawense6288]

Just like a deck you can shuffle by spinning between turns if you would prefer. But the results are as rigged as how you hold the dice starting position in your hands

[@Im.An.Alien.Youre.Terrestrial]

My concern is that, wouldnt you tend to always get the same rolls? Since each ring apear to be static instead being able to move independently.

[@dunderbaer2430]

@@Im.An.Alien.Youre.Terrestrial i mean not really. It's true that when your d20 shows a 19 for example, this dice always shows a 9 for the d10 and a 1 for the d8, but you're not meant to roll different dice at once with this roulette dice. When you want a d20, you roll once, check the result, then roll again for different dice.

[@YT-zx4wr]

if its made correctly there would be no chance of landing on a line

[@ThatOneYoutubePerson]

The triple 1's at the end almost made me laugh lol

[@kalskirata42]

can confirm, it spins very nicely for a roulette die. also comes with a proprietary leather pouch for those who cosplay in their groups.

[@JonFromWA]

Fairly sure laezel wants the zathisk disc back 😂

[@johnnylego807]

They need too make that website name atleast stylistic in some cool font. So it blends with the device also make it smaller and less noticeable.

[@relthmcroth1473]

That's one way to take care of clutter at the tabletop, though it would be useless for games where you need to roll multiple dice at once. I might have to keep an eye out for sales for these.

[@johnnylego807]

They need too make that website name atleast stylistic in some cool font. So it blends with the device also make it smaller and less noticeable. It detracts from the mystery this is “supposed” too have.

[@mcstench8913]

ive just never been a fan of spinners, i like math rock noise 😂😂

[@tynerellyson6445]

Same. I'd still have the spinner, just as a novelty item.

[@minestar2247]

you do not like the sound of friction and rotation? strange, trully alien

[@jimjoyce4423]

Ditto

[@MrArcadia2009]

It's beautifully designed. I'm impressed.

[@mythologicalnomad6520]

I have revolver dice for my artificer. The chamber spins and the dice are little bullets you roll. Quite fun and make a great desk piece as well. I find myself spinning the chamber while working and occasionally doing a few rolls to decide what tasks I’ll do next 🤣

[@Project129]

I actually got this exact thing on Christmas. Love it, really weighty, and it recommends two styles of rolling. First one is to lay it flat on the table and let it come to a complete halt. Second is to hard stop it if you are holding it in your hand.

[@Smartz118]

That's not a die, that is a number generator.

[@raijin7707]

I absolutely love this unique idea and I will totally check out their merch!

[@Akari-br7ci]

Woa, that's sick! Probably a lot cheaper and easier to just use regular dice, but still sick.

[@trash-heap3989]

Awesome looking product, I look forward to browsing their stuff!

[@The214thRabidFangirl]

While I can't afford cool new metal dice right now, you've done a good job at making me want them. 😅

[@centeringcube]

I would love that ngl not even as a dice but like a dope decoration that can be used

[@philipjohnston5822]

"Look, Santa has a dragon!" Sounds very "WELL, WHY THE F NOT!?" to me.

[@ArcticpriceThefallenangel]

At this point it is

[@Brite-um2tq]

Artificer, you say? *Rain world intensifies*

[@Y0G0FU]

Got this dice for my Pirate Artificer (or how i like to call him.. my YARRRtificer). One of the coolest dice i own

[@silksongreleasedate5883]

As someone who doesn’t play dnd I still want one seems like it great to fidget with

[@Datsyc]

Clockwork soul sorcerer vibes

[@MaskkOut2023]

that’s jim’s troll hunter amulet what you on about “dice” for 😭

[@lixnix2018]

Awesome might get one also need a new normal set of dice

[@leafheart3213]

My boyscout troop made an entire roleplaying system that used to run on d6, playing cards, coins, or sticks, really whatever we had. It was ridiculous. I could probably remember the vague outline rules if I really tried but it honestly changed game by game and while there were some standard things like how we did rolls for things we did just sorta make it up as we went. It also telephoned itself a few times because we’d end up converting it from d6 to like drawing straws or flipping a shit ton of coins. Some of the most fun I’ve ever had though.

[@goldlemur8]

I like this, but I feel like it would be too easy to cheat with enough practice

[@alexbarajas8706]

Well if you think about it, With an enough practice/ skill anybody can cheat with normal dice. 🎲

[@panda-monium6513]

Have you seen the coin dice? You flip the coin and there is a ball bearing in the coin. Once you flip the coin and it lands, the ball bearing inside the coin lands in a spot signifying which number you "rolled"!

[@theldraspneumonoultramicro405]

its unfortunate they ruined the design with their website printed in the metal

[@artzydragon770]

i'd say sand it off or something

[@NeonProtobyte]

I believe I spoke to those people at a dealers den during EGX and insomnia when they showed it off. Really nice people to speak to.

[@gjsncr]

Cool! How do you clean them?

[@BloopTube]

Douse it in WD40 and spin I guess.

[@samarth_jadhav]

Find the probability of getting a prime number 🍷

[@alexmaxwell512]

Unfortunately, it’s not a random number generator at all. There is no chaos in its dynamics, unlike classical dice. So, probably, it’s the worst possible way to implement a “dice”. Unique - yes, nice - yes, dice - no.

[@jaddriscoll]

Thank you! You're the only commenter I've seen who mentioned that this is actually not as random as it seems. In fact because it's a wheel it opens up the possibility of players cheating.

[@TheJjcczz]

@@jaddriscollThis has already been mentioned and answered. Dice can also be effected by their starting position in your hand and rigged. If someone was going to use this to cheat they were going to cheat anyway and you should just stop playing with that person. With a spinner like this you simply spin it between roles to keep the roles random

[@TheJjcczz]

Dice are also effected by their starting position, you just spin in between roles to keep it random. Plus it’s only practical for single rolls anyway, you’d still need regular dice for multi dice rolls

[@alexmaxwell512]

@@TheJjcczz no-no-no. It’s well-known that dynamic behaviour of a classical dice is chaotic. Mathematically that means that arbitrary small divergences in its starting position may cause arbitrary large divergences of its trajectory in future. So, usual dice IS a fair and controllable random generator at certain conditions, at least when you use a special container with a spherical inner wall for throwing. In such a case it’s impossible to cheat, that can’t be said about wheel dice from the video.

[@alexmaxwell512]

@@TheJjcczz look, this video gives a perfect explanation kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqvQiHiwp9mpgKMsi=Cdhc6Z7jwC4WxJYA Dynamics of an absolutely elastic ball in a container with a spherical inner wall is chaotic and practically unpredictable, but in a container with a parabolic inner wall it’s not. Classical dice is an equivalent for the first case, the wheel-dice is an equivalent for the second.

[@JasonTaylor90210]

That's probably the coolest thing I've seen.

[@ColinRichardson]

Now... Roll 8 D6 Dice.. I can wait...

[@KiraSlith]

Now THAT is what I call a wheel of fate.

[@TheKrensada]

As a DM, I wouldn't allow this at my table.

[@DaveMiller2]

And well you should not.

[@somefunnyguy2732]

I bet that the future after this rediscovery they might think this is a clock or some bs 💀

[@ZeroGForce]

Okay, but a small bag of dice probably takes up the same space, weighs arguably less (unless they're full metal), and they make the clicky-clacky math rock noise that makes your goblin brain all giddy.

[@Mohamad-95-homs]

‏أَكْثِرُوا مِنْ قَوْلِ : لَا حَوْلَ وَلَا قُوَّةَ إِلَّا بِاللَّهِ ، فَإِنَّهَا كَنْزٌ مِنْ كُنُوزِ الْجَنَّةِ🌻🌙

[@ZheToralf]

How is it balanced? Wouldn't the current number influence the number I am "rolling" when I spin it?

[@gamesdisk]

As much as the number that's up when you roll a normal dice

[@Tankerrex3]

How is a standard die balanced? Wouldn't the initial orientation of the die affect the results of the roll after I cast it?

[@ZheToralf]

@@Tankerrex3 nope

[@TheEnmineer]

@@ZheToralf You are actually incorrect. The physics are deterministic, your initial orientation of the die, paired with the forces exerted on it affect the result of the roll.

[@dankrigby5621]

​@@Tankerrex3not when you shuffle it in your hand instead of just dropping it.

[@xelthos2051]

Ya, I saw that one too and they scammed me out of money and stole my credit card number, sold it too a ton of people, thankfully my bank canceled immediately and I got to keep seeing over 10k in flash charges get denied.

[@oler777]

In your profile, what does that mean?

[@lixnix2018]

You tube about me

[@ospalec4824]

Click on his profile icon. This will get you to his main youtube page. Under his icon, there is this section ,,About me". The link should be there

[@oler777]

@@lixnix2018 there is no KZbin about me. They got rid of that like a month ago.

[@lixnix2018]

@@oler777there is click on his profile and than there is an about me /they changed the name but it is the same

[@JoshuaBasdeo-ue7us]

I like this piece of art and craft. ❤❤❤❤

[@maximisatwat]

Thats AMAZING! They've invented a portable pocket-sized version of "dice"

[@fredwilliams420]

I don't play, but these unique dice videos have me considering it: or becoming a collector in the least

[@chrisbutler9594]

And no GM will will allow them at a table...

[@jama211]

I’ve never played with anyone who would care if you used this

[@dankrigby5621]

​@@jama211just wait until the guy with this thing has rolled his 16D8, then you won't like it at your table lol

[@fernandob2275]

I like that the numbers are randomizes already

[@LIONGOD]

i have a majic 8 ball that kinda works similarly, but you have to press on the 8 to make it spin, and then it spins like a slot machine, theres probably a dice like it out there, but i found this thing at a thrift store

[@alina34344]

Santa's get a dragon 😂

[@DIRTkat_ofc]

The rogue rolling 16d8 for ONE of his attacks this turn:

[@street-zombie]

As someone who loses dice, this could be the most practical thing for me

[@marsh_melon_owo]

i was just thinking how much my artificer ari would adore this when u mentioned artificers!!

[@DavidMcmullan-z7j]

Love the Christmas one with the dragon.

[@grey9803]

Id love to see one made for war hammer, it would make painting it so much fun

[@xypher2589]

Mine came in this week highly recommended I love it

[@33asy]

It’s “Santa’s got a dragon” for me 😂😂

[@Blaklyon0]

I would buy one if each row of numbers, spinned independently. That could add to the randomness and chaos. A single disk with printed numbers will only give you a limited amount of variations.

[@barbaradefaria5604]

It's so exquisite... I was convinced that it was actually vintage

[@kingofthestars]

genuinely wanna check it out next paycheck, ill be sure to use ur link!

[@laughingstock7638]

looks cool and is fun for about 1 spin at the table and then becomes a chore

[@benjammin7465]

i'm not spending AAA game prices for a biased dice set

[@zendakon8299]

Wow. This will go great with the other dice I won't use cause scheduling is a nightmare

[@bonniemoon6790]

"Look, Santa's got a dragon" well i was not expecting to hear that string of words today.

[@Echotracers]

I love these but its always "what if I need to roll 2d20 because I have advantage?" or I need to roll 5d6 ect.. Tables don't want to wait around for that

[@SharrenDabs]

i honestly love those and they fit in your tiny pocket

[@CyberCrusader27]

Cool gadget but which holiday? Are there others or just the one?

[@kingnekogon]

This would go very well with my abacus life point counter. Definitely putting this on the christmas list

[@adamwelch4336]

Lol 😂those are neat ! Spinner dice!

[@jw5386]

Looks like a sick fidget too

[@ZeroPointNeon]

Looks like a time lords watch.

[@purple_the_fox1727]

Gib, now. I am but a humble dice goblin, but I dream of one day being a dice dragon. This will add nicely to my collection of uniques

[@TheRealWattLife]

He said all of that like it actually means something.

[@publiusii4246]

seems far to likely too land in between for my liking if they were made in such a way to bias towards the center it would be fine. but being multiple dice and doing that seems impossible

[@Krankie_V]

Even as someone who isn't into dice games, i kinda want one 😅

[@DankimusPrime420]

My mom was a avid dice collector she played dnd till she passed away i NEED ONE OF THESE for the shrine