Did FuhNaff Solve FNAF?! | MatPat Reacts to "I Solved FNAF Security Breach"

[@FuhNaff]

Thank you so much for reacting. It’s a HUGE honor. 💙

[@okynauaaa]

Look at him :D

[@Jayhem_]

Amazing theory tho

[@LunaWitcherArt]

Are you fangirling? Cuz I'm fangirling

[@super_sloth_man6443]

ITS HIM

[@SprinkYT]

MatPat needs to pin this

[@igreatlyandpowerfullydisag3681]

I think it's hilarious that Vanessa under the control of Afton looked up "how to induce compliance in human subjects" I imagine glitchtrap scrolling through a wikiHow article

[@plum2584]

Yeah, this image has also tickled me. 🤣🤣

[@sebastian9777]

Lol to be fair Internet didnt exist at his time so william is the biggest boomer in the world

[@sianevans6455]

🤣😂

[@sianevans6455]

@@sebastian9777 🤣😂

[@blindedjourneyman]

@@sebastian9777 lol, I think he'd adjust just fine, guy built and coded borderline futuristic robots, and due to his mind, fazbear entertainment STILL has cutting edge robots just building off what the mad scientist started. seemingly safer too, note freddy has a secret compartment, with a screen in his stomach A KID can see out of and fit in.

[@Astrolobo]

Matt being like "I didn't have time to watch this video because its 22 minutes" and then spending an hour and a half watching it makes sense

[@OhNoTheFace]

Well now it's for work :P

[@247Gaming-o7s]

No thats why he didn't have time to watch it because he would go in depth into each thing John says.

[@AKatWhoDoesntLikeCatsMain]

Didn't have time to watch a 22 minute video because it would be longer then 30 minutes(and it's FNAF, can't pass up the opportunity to make a video on FNAF lol)

[@kaiuniverse876]

Thats exactly why he didnt have time lol

[@tipjrjr326]

yes... it does... cause if he jsut watches it... it isn't much of a reaction.if u ask an expert about something in their field of expertise, do you want an expert answer or a short, vauge, general answer that you can get anywhere else? what are you even tryna say? I hate the internet, hahahaha lets be funny instead of contributing to a conversation, thanks, I hate it.

[@Hyp3rSon1X]

In one ending, you can literally see Vanni ordering the bots to dismantle Freddy… why is it so hard to believe she used something similar to get rid of all the other people there? Maybe even the mangled doctors? She actually does control an army of bots and it is showed in one of the endings of the game…

[@Treofis]

What if it was her but only why she wasn't in control hence why she sounds so confused. She might not be acting and be genuinely surprised. Though I'm not sure why she would just keep killing therapists though.

[@ermacmacro7136]

Probably because it's harder to believe that Vanny has been able to manipulate so much for so long without anyone being able to catch her. Where it's easier to believe that she managed to manipulate the Staff Bots in the time that she's there because their programming is so rudimentary and stupid that they follow any command given to them.

[@Wildcat12]

As a programmer, literally the ONLY reason the Princess Quest character would be called Cassidy is if it was intended to be found as a lore piece. A) The name is WAY too specific for its lore implications. They would’ve known to avoid to stay away from that name, or any of the others, especially because of their prevalence in the lore. If it wasn’t important they would’ve used an unrelated name to the series, like Denise or something. B) You very rarely give your characters names in the programming that match their actual names. Even in entries to famous series like Mario and Zelda, you’ll see games where the player character is just called “hero” “player” “player_char” etc. You don’t give them their actual character name in many cases, it’s just considered general bad practice unless you’re programming for some random side character who’s only used once. To me, it’s a clear and intentional hint at the lore

[@Schtalin]

but it could also be a red herring?

[@FairytailLife374]

I was thinking that to, I’m not the most experienced in the field but I’m taking the class this year and names are usually more descriptive than names

[@Bisonrulz16]

Nah it doesn't definitively prove that it was intended to be found as a piece of lore. It proves that at a point in early development it could have been intended to be found as a piece of lore. Much like you say it's bad practice to name things obscurely if you don't need to, it's also bad practice to go in and change variable names if things work, it's far more risky to go in and change them than to just leave them be, especially if people shouldn't really need to read the source code. If they then change their minds and say that the Princess Quest girl isn't Cassidy after all, the variable name would in all likelihood not be changed for risk of breaking the functionality because you fail to get all instances of the name Cassidy, it just takes too long.

[@gabionsquared7858]

Games like mario and zelda like you say could get away with calling the players whatever because there was barely a dozen different entities, but I'd bet my left foot that they're called "zelda" and "Mario" in the recent game's source code because of how meticulously planned these things have to be nowadays. She can be called a specific name, but you have have to respect that in games with troubled developments (which this game clearly had from it's delays and buggy release), she could have been planned to be cassidy at some point but that game as whole got repurposed, and she now represents someone else. What immediately comes to mind is Mogh in Elden Ring is just called "Greater Demon", but Morgot is called "Morgot". At some point, the idea of a greater demon enemy was scrapped and he was promoted to be a full boss alongside Morgot, and the story of the game was rewritten.

[@tayloranderson7547]

Yes it is

[@ktoon4725]

Leave it to Matt to turn a twenty-two minute video into an almost hour and a half video 😂

[@Fitnessgramtmpacertest]

and also it passes the length of the actual video only one minute into the whole thing

[@blue-cloud-studios]

He was able to make a short 2 minute game into a 50 minute video Im just suprised they arent longer

[@redwiltshire1816]

Hay I need Matt in the background when I play games it’s not long enough

[@cedricdallaire3324]

@@redwiltshire1816 samee! GTLive is litt my background audio XD

[@SMILEY666Y]

The awkward title to read, "Did Fuhnaff solve Fnaf." Sounds a lot like fnaf solved itself all along.

[@vgpilgrimage]

Vanessa does in fact have a giant army of staff bots. Recall the disassemble Freddy/Vanny ending. In the cutscene that plays she presses a button and says a command that seemingly prompts those (in your dreams) staff bots to rip Glamrock Freddy apart. Later, Gregory uses the same mechanism to "disassemble" Vanny. Not a stretch at all to assume Vanessa can command all of the staff bots to do her bidding. Just saying, and this probably has already been mentioned, but felt compelled to comment anyway...

[@Siliax]

THIS

[@isnt_not_real]

YESSS

[@littlestargaming1644]

i completly forgot about that-

[@matheusGMN]

@Zelina I think you're reading waaaaaaay too much on what an "army of robots" is supposed to mean here, I'm pretty sure when the others are saying that is that she has the ability to give orders and have said orders be carried out, there doesn't need to be a need for inteliggence in such action. Plus it wouldn't be the first time someone creates something that could eventually backfire on them if got out of their hands

[@FTZPLTC]

Over the "missing kids", I think RyeToast explained it best: if someone was writing a headline about missing *children*, they would definitely say "children" rather than "residents". No subeditor worth their salt would downplay a child abduction angle if there actually was one.

[@tobysinbad]

This comment got me to look into Ryetoast I think? So thankyou (to back you up, i trained as a journalist, i would have been *fired* from any local newspaper for missing the key word on the biggest story that year)

[@Johnny-zi6lw]

You know, the further we analyze Security Breach the more I think we've got ourselves another FNAF 4 situation...

[@kosar5852]

whats a fnaf 4 situation

[@Elloth]

@@kosar5852 Its where the fanbase thought things were going in one direction, and Scott was going to reveal content from a hidden box, but when he saw what direction the fans were going he didnt reveal it. He changed his mind because the original idea he had for the LORE was not figured out and probably would not please the fanbase.

[@tayloranderson7547]

For real life that is so awesome

[@erinloveswomen]

Part 2 is out! Can't wait to see Matpat react to it; it's really interesting!

[@nessie7306]

It's here!

[@winx585]

We need a reaction to part 2 😭 I can’t wait

[@CastleOfAvalon]

@@winx585 are u okay?

[@winx585]

@@CastleOfAvalon are you ?

[@ii-iw2ib]

@@winx585 are you?

[@thegamingillustrator]

i feel like it is worth mentioning that the red flagged packages were sent to the office, and louis had the both the red flag reports to know when they would arrive, and the motive to hide them from the rest of the staff until he could find out what was wrong with vanessa, which would lead him to the glitched games, his weird obsessions and hr violations, to eventually getting fired after almost freeing vanessa.

[@Nowolf]

Yes. they missed that barely-a-second line that the red flag packages go to him.

[@dylanlipsetpadilla6338]

Thats what i was thinking

[@martindebuer]

timestamp? pls

[@kingdeadbread1062]

LUIS

[@angelsinthewindow]

Even if he wasn't just hiding the packages to protect Vanessa, he could of also done it for his own twisted sort of reason to since he was so in love with her. Knowing how these games seem to be with obsessed people, that can be another possibility so its not really something that should be discredited out of the blue. Guess it also works with the fact their are so many robot things too.

[@AidenDufty]

the idea of their being a massive slaughter coordinated by vanessa using endos is horrifying but also so interesting it kind of reminds you of how horrific the story of this game really is.

[@maelstrom_n]

it also reminds me of the freddy ending where she can control the staff bots to do what she wants, and uses them to tear apart freddy and gregory in turn used them to tear apart vanessa

[@inkedthedemon]

Fredie 🐻🐻🐻🐻🧸🧸🧸🧸🐻‍❄️

[@tayloranderson7547]

That is so awesome and amazing

[@tehawsumninja]

@GTLive Left this comment on Johns original video: I think GNNA stands for "Group Needs N/A" or "Group Needs No Accessories", in other words, the room does not need decorations, balloons, etc, and is just a reserved room. As you can tell with the other ones, just as the Bday one, on the boards dedicated to each one of those parties it says what the balloons should spell out, i.e. "Happy 40th!" on the Bday40 one. This is why on the GNNA two boards it doesn't have any balloons listed on what it should spell out, it instead says "N/A"

[@KeiranTrick]

The 2nd column also states which 'Party Package' the room(s) will be decorated with. It will still have decorations, just no specific occasion - Generic/General or Not Applicable, GNNA

[@trappedinmymind485]

I definitely agree with the N/A part, but I don't think it'd be specifying what the groups need on this board. Maybe "Group Nature Not Available"? As in their reason for renting out the room wasn't specified?

[@Abananna]

Same, I think it stands for General Notes Not Available. It’s something you would see off a spreadsheet

[@ArmundJay]

That's kinda what i was thinking! something along the lines of "General (GN) / Not Applicable (NA)" like, just a general party or get-together.

[@MisterIncog]

yes, this. NA definetly jumped out as N/A first, and general N/A makes the most sense.

[@sealink129]

You should absolutely check out part 2. So many (more) small details click into place and it’s really fascinating

[@hil.kitkat]

Yes! I want him to react to part 2 so badly

[@aceae4210]

@@hil.kitkat they now have if you haven't seen(about 16 hours ago when I post this, 7 hours after your reply)

[@hil.kitkat]

@@aceae4210 thanks! I’ve started it, but can only watch in segments due to my sched :/

[@aliceb.1481]

I like the theory (not mine) that GNNA means "group needs no accessories" for events that don't have a specific occasion like a birthday. They don't need any 'happy birthday balloons for example. It could also mean "general/NA". Which would essentially have the same meaning

[@islaythejabberwokky]

That was my thought too, "generic/general, not applicable"

[@calebsimmons2747]

I like the N/A spin cause of the erased N/A on the board

[@DustyStarrs]

yeah I just commented that! great minds!

[@aliceb.1481]

@@DustyStarrs I like the saying "great minds think alike". In my language the equivalent saying for the situation is (roughly translated): "two stupid people, one shared thought." kinda mean I like the English one better

[@DustyStarrs]

@@aliceb.1481 kind of the opposite, that's funny - kinda like the English saying "two idiots who share the same one braincell"! What's your language?

[@AkhierDragonheart]

The message around 37:50 does specifically say "your last order got automatically sent to me". Yes that could mean email alerts, but it could also mean the physical items are sent to him. This is plausible. If she was ordering them for herself but getting them sent to the office and using the office computers to do it, they couldn't cancel the orders since she paid for them, but they could certainly send them to the guy first when they arrive. That way the company can check it first. A little weird, but plausible.

[@vodanykey_5780]

Even if it doesn't make sense, that is literally what the email seems to be saying. Weird thing to happen? Not realistic? Maybe. But if thats what the lore is saying happened, then... you know. I mean... look at the game your theorizing in the first place lol! I think red flag items being sent to her supervisor because they were flagged as red flag isn't so unbelievable lol

[@meowgi]

John is an amazing theorist - I'm happy he's getting the exposure he deserves. I've been a fan of his since he was around 10k and it's so awesome to see him keep growing!

[@Angelspoky]

hello fellow yoongi fan lol

[@hannahlock1]

same ive been watching since his third video

[@meowgi]

@@Angelspoky yoongi is everywhere!!

[@dixychickx123]

I love the fact that this is the old hats of the business watching the newbie go through similar struggles

[@clairejacobs205]

Just because someone has started making videos about theories, does not mean they're new to the theory-crafting. GT attitude came off a little obnoxious tbh, whether they intended it that way or not. :/ LIke yes, you can be excited for someone else coming onto the scene publicly, but linking it back to yourself every time, for no reason other than to be like "YEAH, NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL. WE WERE HERE FIRST" is very off-putting.

[@dixychickx123]

@@clairejacobs205 theory crafting is different from having to pull together a full cohesive story. It's one thing to pick at little things and make theories about it but it's another to link it all together into one. I'm not saying they didn't have an attitude but GT is the og when it comes to storied connected theory. They know how hard it is to jump into

[@cannonfire0187]

I like how they take so long getting through the video that Mat decides to speed it up rather than just limit their discussions i between pauses.

[@ladyicondraco]

I don't play FNAF, but I will watch every one of MatPat's theories on it

[@FluffytheFloof]

same here. I came a bit late to the FNAF scene.

[@tianataurus7898]

Same

[@ShadowSentry211]

Literally me, I've never played im just in it for the LOREEE

[@alicepbg2042]

most people who watch the theories don't play the games.

[@FADEOUTSPLATOONYBOI]

Same

[@42qbf]

I don't begrudge Steph not being on camera anymore if that isn't her bag, but as someone who found and watched the GT live library in pandemic, I will say the Matt+Steph dynamic was gold.

[@emmie3069]

😢yeah

[@TehDalek]

The DDLC streams were the best

[@zoie6013]

@@TehDalek ddlc and kindergarten. But if I had to pick I’d say ddlc

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

Yeah honestly. They had such a good back and forth that I honestly barley watched any videos of him alone without her before. Don't get me wrong matpat is great and I love him. But sometimes he kinda needs that push or someone needs to initiate the conversation for him to say what he wants to say. Cause it kinda feels like most of his thoughts were in his head which made it awkward he used to not commentate on things I wish he did. I can watch him now though. I'm glad he does more interactions with his crew and that his become more open and he found a way to like express his humor without really needing other people

[@samara.morgan]

I loved how she made him more stable, controlled the situation when he was going mad. She's awesome and I still miss her.

[@breegarner8840]

If Vanessa and Vanny are assumed to be two separate personalities, could the daycare room be Vanessa's and the lazer tag be Vanny's??

[@georged-vy7mn]

That's exactly what I thought

[@tayloranderson7547]

Be Vanessa's and the Lazer tag be vannys!?

[@tytaniumv2714]

Here me out, what if Vanessa just doesn’t know what she does under Afton’s control? That would explain a lot of her surprise about her therapists

[@beepbopboop1873]

“Hear me out” and this is one of the most popular theories for security breach 💀

[@lunaangeleclipse9745]

Like a sleeper agent type thing

[@soundwave7502]

Im suprised mat didnt think of that, bc its so obvious

[@AyMayDayBae]

A few notes as I'm watching: 1) I could see Luis having intercepted Vanessa's deliveries out of concern for the things she was ordering. He does feel like the slightly awkward nerd with a big crush, and taking her mail fits with his somewhat inappropriate behaviours towards her. 2) if Luis is the one trying to solve the princess quest arcade machines mystery, it also tracks, he seems overly obsessed with the "princess", in this case Vanessa, paying attention to him. "then the Princess will recognize me. She's testing me. I am not yet worthy." that really does sound like the kind of guy he is, and he mentions Vanessa not noticing him in emails. 3) admittedly, I always thought the daycare attendant room was... well, the daycare attendant's room LOL. and that the big secret would be working out *who* the daycare attendant actually is. 4) Vanessa/Vanny *does* have control of "an army of bots", we see this in the ending when she commands them to attack.

[@hahaitshalo2943]

Glad John from FuNaff is getting more exposure he makes excellent stuff

[@sirfazbear4993]

Agreed

[@MrBoyo-sg7ff]

yep

[@Zekron88]

Definitely!!! This theory is really well put together and really makes you think.

[@ZeltonXD]

You spelled FuhNaff wrong

[@TheGrossDemon]

I wish Matt would react to more of his stuff, just might change the way Matt looks at things

[@skelava6878]

Just wanted to say that when you talk about Luis only getting emails, while that is true, the email says "your last order got sent to me". I think what John meant was Luis was the one hiding in that room, and he got Vanessa's last order, which had cupcake tins, a thumbscrew and whatnot. The flowers thing still seems a bit odd though

[@animo358]

The flowers really aren't odd. They're just not important. That can easily just be decoration of the daycare. Something comforting for kids

[@elphabafrost]

I was so upset when they didn't stop to read, because it does sound like he physically received the order!

[@skelava6878]

@@animo358 Yea mb that's what I meant.. the flowers seem insignificant

[@MasterMayton]

Regarding "GNNA", it's possible that's an internal code for "General/Not Available". It'd be a weirdly realistic answer, at least. Businesses and orgs that have to file a lot of individual data (e.g. subjects, events, cases) like to make IDs with consistent character limits. It makes it easy to organize into a spreadsheet, particularly if you need a lot of people scanning for specific information. It's usually a good idea to have an "oh no, we forgot to get this info" code so you can still generate an ID while awaiting details. "General/Not Available" is exactly the kind of vague code I'd expect for an unspecified event category. What's the event? Who knows! Which room? To be decided! Now it's a shared headache for every employee working that day. Welcome to the true horror of Security Breach: being employed in the service industry.

[@makaniwebb9358]

That was my idea too.

[@LuisIsAsleep]

Fuhnaff said that in part 2 too. Ur correct.

[@aceae4210]

it looks like that comment copied from Ash! as their comment is exactly the same is here but posted 8 days before yours. you can get the direct link to the comment on the original video by adding the &lc=Ugy(the full one after this line) on to the end of the video URL &lc=UgypRDeZHzLGvPQ9Bfx4AaABAg (add that to the end of the original video but it should be a top comment)

[@LuisIsAsleep]

@@aceae4210 oh wow thanks

[@NOTsircape]

I agree, I believe it’s just General because some people have parties to just celebrate like a milestone or something.

[@the-white-eye]

i think they should hear him out more. a lot of time they pause the video, discuss an issue with what is being said, continue the video and then have that same issue that they just discussed be acknowledged

[@sydneycole137]

Only MatPat, can make a 22 minute video into a 1 hour and 24 minute review

[@Urarabman]

Matt give him a hug and welcome him to the theorists

[@jsostick]

It's better if he stays as his own channel rather than under someone else's

[@legendarygodzilla14]

@@jsostick I think he was referring to the Fnaf Theorists Community.

[@yoursleepparalysisdemon3475]

He did in the video

[@ragdethecrimsonchrist8950]

He basically did by adding him as one of the theroists on his live FNAF theory crafting video

[@loganentertainment1814]

The fact that Matpat went out of his way to dedicate a GTLive video to a fellow Fnaf fan, shows that he knows about the Fnaf people out there. 😭😀👍😱 Especially the fact that Matpat mentioned FuhNaff a couple of times, and invited him to a livestream once.

[@deltaboss8871]

The stream where he literally video conference calls several of them is also pretty strong evidence he knows about them XD

[@arty_hunter3698]

hes like a dad to the fnaf community no?

[@IceHeartAlpha]

i mean at the start they say its recommended to watch as well so partly the own community help

[@nisrinaprihadi2754]

He actually invite john (fuhnaff) to one of his stream, he also mention john's channel in couple vid, so yeah he knows

[@FriedIce3]

Does he know about the theft king controversy??

[@dcross0616]

My 46 Hot Take: “Patient 46” isn’t a patient at all, but is the 46th test case of humanoid animatronics. Specifically the animatronic boy on the cover of Tales From the Pizzaplex 1, Lally’s Game. He is small, and he does need things explained to him, because he’s learning. These therapists are appointed BY Fazbear, meaning Fazbear Entertainment controls these appointments. Perhaps they’re conducting behavioral tests on cognitive androids, under the guise of therapy, in the hopes of developing fully sentient, conscious AI… exactly like what we see with the Glamrocks, able to think and react of their own accord.

[@Lol1warriorz]

I really like this thought; I hope later in the FNAF series they "officially" introduce animatronics being disguised as humans. It makes me wonder even more about the endoskeleton training area/daycare

[@LuisIsAsleep]

watch part 2 of FuhNaff's video, ur kinda correct

[@DavidFarquharsonPhotography]

@@LuisIsAsleep facts

[@luan5987]

I just want to say, I love these "live" FNAF theory crafting videos. Kinda feels like a podcast about game lore

[@kiritosintern]

A legend acknowledging a rising icon is one of the best things I’ve ever witnessed in MatPat history

[@8-bitkyanii]

See, I know Scott has always said "I don't do coincidences." But it'd be absolutely hilarious if he just puts easter eggs and references in his games to make it seem like there's lore, but in all reality, we've just been creating lore out of thin air for him. This is why Fazgoo exists. He just wanted to see what we'd do with it.

[@RandomPerson-vq9kw]

I mean, that's how I always assumed he did it XD

[@demarcolewis7677]

Ykwwww😅

[@SforSamPlays]

I wouldn’t doubt it

[@BiggestHottestGuy]

"I don't do coincidences" meanwhile the 10 Jeremys are just there

[@SpicyChickenSammichPodcast]

FNAF is just Pixar 2.0

[@baybee_bambii]

I saw someone else say that GNNA could mean "General/Not Available". They thought it meant maybe the person organizing the party forgot to ask/write down what type of party it is, so GNNA is the go-to code. I could also see it as "General/Not Applicable" as in it's *just* a party with no specific reasoning or maybe a specific reasoning that doesn't fall under one of the Pizzaplex's pre-determined few.

[@raymin5619]

heres the thing tho... never GNNA GIVE YOU UP never GNNA LET YoU DOWN

[@ziabyapah]

I think it's pretty important to point out the fact that Luis specifically says the red flag packages are being sent to him, not emails about the red flags. So hypothetically, he SHOULD have the thumbscrew. That doesn't explain the cupcake tin or flowers though. MAYBE you can explain the cupcake tin as Luis wanting to impress Vanessa or make cupcakes for her or something? But still, the flowers are hard to explain, and it's a stretch.

[@animo358]

The flowers aren't hard to explain. They just aren't relevant. They're just design for the actual daycare. Though I really don't think In office mail would get rediverted like that. Especially not to the IT. Security makes more sense.

[@ziabyapah]

@@animo358 You're right. The relevance of the flowers was a stretch from the start. I think it's possible that if the package was ordered to the workplace, it would be redirected somewhere. Since Luis is flagged when suspicious things happen, he could just be lying about the package being redirected in the first place too. Instead seeing it as an opportunity for an exchange in case she wants her package back, and taking it with the excuse of it being flagged.

[@Camazotz-kz9wr]

@@animo358 Although Vanessa is head of security. So they can't exactly redirect flagged passages that the head of security ordered to the security department. Wouldn't make sense. Redirecting them to HR to look at might make more sense in that case.

[@animo358]

@@Camazotz-kz9wr Vanessa wasn't head of security at this point though?

[@LizzardGirl713]

@@Camazotz-kz9wr Vanessa is head of security (at the Pizzaplex) by the time the game takes place. Prior to that, she works elsewhere in the company, and uses Luis' crush on her to gain IT knowledge so that she can manipulate computer systems elsewhere in Fazbear Entertainment. With this knowledge, she manages to receive admin computer access to "fix" the glitched code, and she falsifies internal emails in order to get hired as the Pizzaplex's head of security. I do agree that it wouldn't make a lot of sense for anyone from IT to have the power to redirect packages sent to the office, though it could be that Illumix (and/or Steel Wool) wanted to simplify that part of the story by implying that all red flags, whether searches or orders, pass through IT.

[@rude.basily]

I feel a lot of judginess coming from you and tom today, Matt, don't forget about all the lengthy stretches you've made that we've accepted 👀

[@xxhayitskayxx3568]

Im not even going to lie it was really hard to watch this video because they we’re either making fun of him for what he was saying or just not waiting to listen to what he had to say next which led them to pause right after he explained why he said the thing in the first place. (Like it genuinely took me all 4 days since it was released to watch this video cause I was starting to get a little annoyed after the first 15 minutes). So I agree with you, because his video was really well thought out and planned out, while MatPat’s stuff has just been realllly difficult for all of us to believe and even he’s not 100% sold on his own theories. This includes his most recent one where he told us where we can just throw out all the lore we learned in fnaf 1-4 which is just a little… I don’t know… I guess de-naming all of the work that theorists (including himself) put into the original 4 games. Don’t get me wrong though I still love MatPat, but his recent fnaf theories at this point are just becoming a stretch and he’s not really fully taking in other theories that might have possible upsides that we may not have seen before (like not giving it a chance, even if it can bring something new to light).

[@lazilyymade]

I was literally screaming "LET THE MAN SPEAK" every time they paused the video midway through a sentence to rag on a piece of theory for 10 minutes with no context of where he was going with it.

[@GlisteningWind]

YUP

[@Jann75]

@@mrzimnafurane "They spent 1,5 hours on a 22 minute video. People dont do that if they are just making fun of it." In some contexts, it's almost easier to do that if you're making fun of it.

[@rude.basily]

@@mrzimnafurane i know he does, but that's only one time. I'm not saying this in a way that I'm hating on him, but just saying that he shouldn't judge it so harshly considering that he's had to make stretches to connect theories as well and should know the struggle, let alone make such harsh comments about it. It makes him seem like a hypocrite and I don't want that for him

[@immywood8610]

Actual video reaction starts at 11:00 , just for all you people who don’t like the long intros :))

[@Goobergal8705]

Everytime Matpat pauses at the start, John's expression is just: can you just let me start?!

[@AnityEx]

Lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 u right

[@harpervaladie6506]

6:01 is a perfect example of why I love GTLive. “Wait are you an insider?” “I may be an insider” “Are you a double agent Tom?…. JUST LIKE THE BRITISH!”

[@aliceb.1481]

The missing people aren't children, you're right! Newspaper headlines have to be very clickbaity these days and would definitely explicitly call out children being among the missing residents.

[@skarzcompilations1747]

Hehe among📮

[@biaxolotl5171]

AMOUNG US

[@biaxolotl5171]

AMOONGUS

[@aliceb.1481]

Seriously? I can't even say the word "among"?

[@samuellopez479]

@@aliceb.1481 let the have their fun. It’s not bad if they start memeing into the stratosphere

[@WhosMacc]

I think GNNA stands for general. If you look at the individual boards for each event they all have messages written on them saying stuff like “happy birthday” or “1 years old”, the ones for GNNA just say “N/A”, making it seem like its not for a particular celebration

[@professorx1118]

It lines really well with why Vanny was surprised of the new therapist and why 46 wasn't confused. This explains why Vanny needed a therapist because she had another person controlling at times, instead of the reason being she ordered and searched weird things. This theory, or hypothesis is also backed by John's evidence brought in the video.

[@ctazadventures]

Never clicked so fast. FuhNaff did a really great job on that video and I've been dying to hear MatPat's thoughts!

[@PatchesNStitches]

Omg, same!

[@spicywatermelon8617]

Yes!!! FuhNaff’s video left my mind for a bit, but once I saw this on my recommended I got so excited!

[@jacobtidwell8869]

MatPat was broken by the lore so much that he's resorted to watching other theories to see what their takes are.

[@TheGrossDemon]

Looking at others takes is a good way to reevaluate your own thoughts

[@goodie2goodie1]

He's godamn cracked with it

[@prankstagamer0617]

Well the guy got to this theory before matpatt found it if Matt copied it, it would be shitty

[@rubis_the_cube]

You know what if it gives him the small break he deserves then I’m all for it 😭

[@dr.pringle9568]

Cant believe MatPat reacts to one of my favorite FNAF KZbinrs! Truly epic.

[@VeeRoxy]

@LakehuntistCool😎 objectively wrong by so much man

[@tomsparrow1823]

I feel like you came onto the scene with robot Gregory at just the right time because there are at least two popular animated shows right now that are dealing with characters who are artificially created children, so it's possible that people in famdom spaces are, if not warming up to the idea, then at least are starting to accept it a little better, even if begrudgingly at times. Well that and it's a solid theory, you showed your work and everything.

[@hil.kitkat]

As someone who watched FuhNaffs video before this one there were SO MANY TIMES i was screaming JUST WATCH THE VIDEO MATT so many comments he made John answered at some point in the video he hadn’t gotten to yet. I appreciate how he’s reacting to it in real time, but maybe next time watching the whole thing and taking notes is the way to go lols

[@Sabineee3]

Thanks Mat. My partner passed away today, and seeing this made me feel a little better.

[@steviebumbletea]

I'm so sorry for your loss, I hope you are doing as well as you can be. I'm glad the video has made you feel better, sending lots of love 💖!

[@somecat7272]

My condolences

[@Pencilshaving]

So sorry for your loss, wish you well

[@aero7882]

I’m so sorry, I hope you are able to process your grief and can find peace as soon as possible 😞😞❤️

[@pikichugo]

Bless you bro

[@thisisasupersayin376]

1:17:12 She literally does tho. Vanny's shown to have the staffbot controls in her room. She commands them to dissasemble Freddy.

[@jordanvincent1246]

FuhNaff is THE BEST fnaf channel youtube has to offer. Love his content, always appreciate fnaf updates and he seems like such a genuinely nice young guy. Like a younger MatPat. Love when the two interact. Great video!

[@jocer34]

the room with the 141 in the box is definitely more striking as a sort of hideout, and if the the thumbscrew is actually a part for computers like some comments suggest, then i suppose it makes more sense that luis is trying to figure out what's going on with vanessa. especially because he would seem like the type to care a lot about who is potentially manipulating her and that's why he made note of cd 141 (idk if anyone's mentioned this idea yet but yeah)

[@TheMind129]

I have never felt pain watching a reaction video. Thanks for giving me that feeling Matpat.

[@hil.kitkat]

LMAO SAME. Don’t know if you watched John’s video first but I did and it was super frustrating that half the things Mat commented on were brought up later on in John’s video

[@dyingicecream2785]

Exactly, he doesn't seems to listen or wanting to. It's frustrating and kind of shitting on John.

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

@@hil.kitkat I am watching matpats video first so I don't know what he would say. Im glad I did honestly cause its safe to say I'm not bugged 😎

[@CVWarweaponPunk]

Ngl, the whole moment he had of asking if John even finished talking about the glass then laughing and saying "He didn't even talk about the glass he spoke so highly about!" in that tone he was using kinda felt like a rude statement to make in a way, I'm not saying he meant it but that certainly didn't come off nice

[@gunnersg2700]

@@CVWarweaponPunk i assume you're talking about 48:20? Here's how the conversation actually went: Mat: "Still have answered the glass, though. Why is the glass there. Does he answer the glass?" Tom, who watched the video and whom Mat trusts to remember what he watched: “I don’t think he answers the glass.” Mat: “Are you kidding me?” Tom: “Uh, does he?” Mat (notice how this quote is different from the one you wrote): “He makes such a big deal out of the glass!” Tom explains why the glass was in the video Mat: “But that’s the Chekhov’s gun that he needs to fire! Okay..” Tom: “Well let’s see if he fires it.” That statement might come off as rude. i felt that it was the same kind of banter that he does with his team (eg. Tom and Ash in this video), but you're probably right. Do notice, though, that you are criticizing Mat in a much more stern tone than the one he uses here. And looking at the whole conversation, he ended up not making that statement, so i thought it's fine

[@Casey_Dia]

The way that Mat and Tom describe how SteelWool gets too much hate on the game because of the red herrings is perfect.

[@sup3414]

They and Scott F'd up big time with this game though.

[@ARobotIsMe]

You know a theory is good when it leaves matpat speechless

[@nullvoid3545]

Speechless? What video were you guys watching?

[@ARobotIsMe]

@@nullvoid3545 35:47

[@nullvoid3545]

@@ARobotIsMe Fair enough, he clearly needed A second there to process this. I had assumed that you were referring to the entire video when in retrospect it was obvious that you must have meant some specific moment. My bad.

[@spo0kykatt_334]

I love how matpat can make watching a 20 minute theory video into an hour 20 minute discussion. Thats ×4 of the original skebekejekeje

[@pkdesuwu]

lmao that laugh you typed at the end

[@nullvoid3545]

@Rowan Right? this needed two parts to be fully covered given how thorough mat and tom can be with these discussions, even getting ahead of the video on several occasions.

[@seraphonica]

solution to FNAF: legally change Afton's name to Jeremy, because in this universe, only Jeremies stay dead

[@harryjordan7990]

Need to watch part two it’s really interesting on patient 46

[@MoffyMoth]

I noticed matpat has some cute bracelets on, they look hand made so I'm guessing Ollie may have made them for him. Mat is such a good dad even wearing them throughout the video with no shame (not that there should be)

[@bbkeons]

Watching the trailers still give me chills...I just wish that was the game we got because the trailers were actually spooky.

[@DF.A.B.L.E.]

Reported the bot for you :) got your back ^__^

[@bbkeons]

@@DF.A.B.L.E. thanks fam

[@DF.A.B.L.E.]

@@bbkeons np ^__^

[@stellamariefanboy.6768]

Shii have u seen the menu screens smoke the bear made before security breach was announced? They were so much better than the underwhelming thing we got

[@pedrostormrage]

7:17 "I'm double crossing both of you" "To what end?" "I don't know at this point" Tom is chaotic neutral 😂

[@thejoabear]

I have watched MatPat for years and I have never watched a single one of his FNAF videos until today. I don't even know anything about FNAF and never planned to learn. Yet here I am. He pulled me in. He always does and while I held out longer than many, today I fall. Much, much farther than the average fan because while everyone dropped years ago, I climbed and climbed, trying drag myself out of the canyon of FNAF theories, The web of lore his channel was surrounded in and in my hubris I believed I could escape. I'm falling now, I started tumbling into the abyss as soon as I clicked onto this video. I knew where I was going but I was lulled into calm with The Witty Banter but it was all a mirage, an illusion. Goodbye or should I say hello?, other side MatPat fandom. I disgracefully fall into your wicked embrace, a shadow of what I was.

[@MrStrikecentral]

I have a few FNAF questions myself. In Pizzaria Simulator, when Henry explicitly says that the job posting was not intended for you (Michael) but a way out was intended for the desired individual, who was supposed to get the job to trap the animatronics and burn them inside? Was it another associate of Henry's that wanted to help him? If so, why and how did Michael get the job if Henry already has someone else in mind for it? Who funded the creation of the Pizzaplex? They HAD to have known about the already existing building on the site, or at least the basement of it. Why was it deliberately left intact? Why build that huge facility directly on top of it without demolishing it completely? Who in corporate was pushing for Vanessa to be hired? Why would they push for Vanessa to be hired unless they knew she was being influenced by Afton? If that's the case, that means that Afton has other allies with finances enough to build the Pizzaplex. What if the Pizzaplex was intended to be a hidden shrine to Afton and his atrocities? Would this mean there's literally an Afton cult that is keeping very secret with their intentions?

[@IsfetSolaris]

Guys, I thought we agreed on NOT SAYING WE SOLVED FNAF! Last time we did that, Scott said no u and released 4 more games, a load of books, and maybe a movie at some point.

[@sparktaylor8489]

I speak for the people when I say we want more Tom, Tom is good we love his energy he's wonderful he genuinely does have a little bit of that Stephanie energy that is hard to replace while bringing something of his own which is amazing

[@the_godbodor7026]

I think a lot of the later points FuhNaff brings up I do think are pretty solid and worth looking into, like the one hidden Endo with the cake on its face seems a little too hidden to be just a normal object with no significance, especially if it has extra detail that then has a lot of parallel with the staff meeting.

[@FuzzyImages]

Just a thought I'm gonna throw out there... what if Vanny is actual the evil charlie/patient 46? I mean the fact that we saw two Vanessas in one of the endings suggests that at-least one of them is a robot, and given the warping effect on the screen when Vanny comes close it pretty strongly points to her having a distortion disk on her. As well as Vanessa having actually caught Gregory and then she just leaves him in that room but goes off to supposedly change into the Vanny costume?... Why?... I know it's kinda shooting in the dark a bit, but I just feel like nothing ever resolved that two Vanessas issue and this at-least brings that together...

[@alunalovegood9703]

Definitely can be impersonating I like this

[@serenitystrong5683]

I do think that vanny is it's own thing. But I also think that the patient is the evil charlie.

[@duck8049]

Agreed

[@justme._.7923]

This is adorable, the support in this community is how we’ve come so far in theory crafting ❤️

[@Bransbow]

Something from FNaF AR that, to my memory, MatPat never acknowledged is how the animatronics in that game appear similar to how Ballora appears to Kasey in the "Dance With Me" story in Fazbear Frights. Invisible to us, but visible (though glitchy) through our phone in FNaF AR, or the glasses in the story.

[@adamstepniewski4697]

Exactly! I've been saying this for ages

[@Sleeper_6875]

The dynamic between Matt and Tom is amazing, theyre so funny

[@madelinesims7976]

Since I’ve already watched John’s video, this entire time I kept going, “don’t worry, John explains it” 😂

[@nicolaslucena8077]

Same, It honestly got frustrading at times. No hate, i swear, but you cant be mad at people for dismissing the gregbot theory without watching the whole vídeo and then dismiss his evidence 6 min into a 20 min vídeo

[@joshphillips5238]

@@nicolaslucena8077 I mean, that’s what a reaction is. I liked that they explained all of the counter arguments then, because there are a lot! John’s theory is great, but to understand it fully we have to all be aware of the points he *didn’t* mention in his video first

[@maxwellp.8728]

Thank y’all so much for bringing back the whiteboard, I’ve enjoyed seeming it again. I’ve been asking for it for a while and I’m glad to finally see it once again.

[@MrStrikecentral]

'FNAF Boys, FNAF Boys. Wha' 'cha gonna' do? Wha' 'cha gonna' do when Afton comes for you?'

[@davylipton4364]

I love how comfortable they look together talking about this. They really really seem to enjoy it even though it’s so frustrating😂😂

[@RorThor]

Game recommendation: Security Booth by Kyle Horwood. You play as a security guard working in a security booth outside of a company lab called Nova Nexus. Throughout the night you must decide who you will and won’t let in. However, there is something that I can only describe as extra-terrestrial or ethereal going on. There are 7 endings (and hidden notes) and no one has pieced together what the backstory is or what is going on in the company. I thought it might be a fun game to play on GTLive! Edit: I forgot to mention that you also collect videotapes when you get an ending, which could be crucial when it comes to filling in the lore.

[@KankerEmo]

I was waiting so hard cause FuhNaff makes really good theory's

[@randomfox2396]

I agree with you on that one

[@sirfazbear4993]

They're pretty plausible theories

[@dummdumm6735]

he cant get 12 seconds with out pausing and talking about aomething

[@Sway22]

@@dummdumm6735 well, yeah. It's called reacting and theorising.

[@jod422]

i was waiting soft

[@Christopherson918]

This has nothing to do with this theory as a whole but I do feel like bringing up something about the "patient 46 is Gregory" line of thought. Here's why. 1.Gregory has no record He doesn't exist in the eyes of the law and he's not a registered person. Him seeing a therapist and following Vanessa doesn't make sense from the point of view. A therapist would likely know and have the police called on Gregory because he has no record. That's not something that can be easily overlooked. 2.Gregory purposefully avoids Vanessa all the time in game. Yes he stutters when Introducing himself and he is probably not a person but he is well aware that Vanessa is after him so it doesn't make sense that he'd follow her to therapy. That's my reasoning and it's just something that I had to bring up.

[@tonyf4991]

It's the female character from RUIN. Gregory is not a hacker. Gregory doesn't know robotics. Gregory knows some things but not enough. Gregory being a robot makes sense. Gregory lying about parents, doesn't. Gregory likes to hide and not be out in the open. Patient 46 doesn't mind being out in the open to the point where the whole company knows her. Gregory is not manipulative, patient 46 is. I even Patient 46 is the reason Freddy glitched in the beginning. That's not Gregory's silhouette, it's hers. The robotics in one of the hideouts? She is interested in them and works with them.

[@davidgape0943]

I hate how they can't go more than 1 minute without stopping the vid at some point, like stop trying to guess what's gonna be next. Watch the vid, then replay it and pick it apart

[@raccoon.legion]

I remember subscribing to FuhNaff when he was under 10k subs, this man has come so far, he is truly a staple of the FNAF community ever since his involvement and I am so glad he stuck to his guns and got to where he is now

[@kadegetslaid634]

Same man, I love seeing content creators grow when you've been with them since the early days

[@LilyFazbear]

Yesss!!! I feel vindicated!! "The cake is a lie" theory has been one that I've really latched onto - so good to hear that the FNAF experts agree!! 😂

[@ArtistTics]

The fact that he’s reacting to John is so awesome. Giving him the attention he deserves.

[@lendglif]

About thumbscrews, cupcakes and flowers doubt - Luis could be so desperate to order the exact same item to try to solve the whatever mystery is behind Vanessa. He's the one who knows where she ordered from anyway

[@Camazotz-kz9wr]

He didn't need to order them. If you watch, when he makes the claim that Luis received the packages, he shows an email stating that he did in fact receive a package meant for Vanny.

[@corazondonquixote]

@@Camazotz-kz9wr it says he received the red flag packages but that wouldn’t include cupcake tins or flowers

[@ediblefredible]

their reaction to john saying vanessa might be elizabeth is wild after they crafted a whole theory about it not weeks later lmao

[@soundwave7502]

Its retribution for the gregory is a robot theory😭

[@jpyanity443]

It’s so cool watching a giant of the FNAF theory world react to a smaller creator point out ideas he didn’t think of and clues he didn’t see

[@CosmonautZer0]

IT would monitor incoming and outgoing traffic. Presumably there's an automatic filter that sends suspicious messages xoming through the company server to Luis for review to filter out spam, fishing, and that could reasonably include dangerous things like torture devices or criminal activity. Then after a certain point it seems like he's pretty much stalking her and he has the ability to spy on all her emails using his IT access, especially if he's compiling detailed logs. I think the red flag messages are just what brought Vanessa to his attention and after he figured out something weird was going on he started reading everything.

[@frankiecedeno3724]

Lol, I love Mat. Not only was his reaction video 4 times longer than the original, he also had to rush it in the end meaning it could have easily been 2 hours.

[@petrmucha309]

24:50 Right here, when Mat mentions that Golden Freddy never really existed outside of hallucinations, when you think about it, it would add up, because if we are playing as Michael in the first games then the reason for Golden Freddy to appear is the guilt from fnaf 4, when we see the cutscene of the bite, but otherwise he doesn't exist (this is only quick little theory that came to mind, if it can be disproved, go on ahead)

[@ermacmacro7136]

...I just had a thought. If Fazbear Entertainment is now leaning into "The spooky remnant metal is all a part of an elaborate rebranding" angle, then technically we can have those funky variants of the animatronics and disregard them at the same time. Since the characters are canonically a part of the Fazbear Entertainment Intellectual Property, they're allowed to do a bunch of weird things with those characters. And you can still have the game be considered canon since we have the substory of the animatronics going haywire because of the Glitchtrap Virus because all of those funky variants are just reskins of the original code of those older animatronics and therefore it can spread to those animatronics and make them try and murder someone.

[@pov4818]

YOU SHOULD REACT TO FUHHNAFS NEW THEORY PART 2 ITS HAS SO MUCH MORE INFO ITS OUT RIGHT NOW

[@immute]

I remember subscribing to this guy forever ago when he had like, a couple thousand subs, it was in the middle of what seemed like a wave of subscribers coming to him, so insane to see him come this far!

[@blazerfox22]

As jumpy as the “Vanessa bumped them off” is the therapists and employees may want a word with you. Additionally what are the chances vanny took the opportunity to make them into remnant? Lastly, does Vanessa remember being vanny? If not that would explain the self-report and other lack of knowledge as the events may have taken place when she’s vanny, like the police call. Vanny chases Luis who calls the police only to be caught by vanny, she then changes back to Vanessa before the cops show up

[@cisnt9244]

Welcome to an hour and a half of MatPat justifying how he didn't see it first.

[@Scarclaw]

Honestly how it came across

[@ShenHibiki]

Mat didn't see if first 'cause Vanessa killed him (?)

[@fragrantbloom]

Why are you being rude? He was his usual self.

[@cisnt9244]

@@fragrantbloom all in good jest friend!

[@justme._.7923]

He was reacting, open minded and rlly interested actually 🤷‍♀️

[@literal-tree]

i love how the gt employees are able to joke around and be a lot more casual with him even as someone behind the scenes

[@GlisteningWind]

Not Mat Pat acting like he's the FNAF theory expert

[@EcliipseYT]

Once again, vanessa reporting an action she did further promotes my theory. Vanessa as a security guard has no idea where the music man prototype went, where it goes, what happened to it. But while controlled, vanny took it, didn't show up on camera or copied and replaced the footage. It WOULD explain why she would be reporting herself. It would also explain why the crime was so perfect. glitchtrap watching behind vanessas eyes knew how to do it to not get caught on security cams.

[@DyingCkat]

idk what but i literally love johns videos. matpat should also do more like this

[@EcliipseYT]

As I continue this video my theory seems to be more and more correct. The fact that vanessa is surprised that her therapist changed doesn't mean she didn't send the anamatronics...it means she didn't KNOW she was doing it, Glitchtrap or while mind controlled she does it, then wake up and doesn't remember what happened. It means vanessa can do all these evil things, and still not know why bad things are happening. Why stories dont line up....why her mood changes. Or maybe even....why she gets referred to as patient 46...and not vanessa...It would explain why the hack was going around even tho she didn't spread it because she doesn't know how to. Glitchtrap DOES know how to. He takes control, and does it. Vanessa having no idea

[@FoilThePiglin]

I find the constant rambling and theorizing throughout the video very interesting, I genuinely really like rambling like that, not just rambling, but rambling on a specific topic

[@nihili4196]

Scott just doesn't like some guy named Jeremy. I mean, if you live in FNAF universe and you're called Jeremy, you'll most likely die in some vaguely pizza related incident