Did Horrorcore "Music" Inspire Farmville Quadruple Murder? | Richard McCroskey Case Analysis

[@G0on]

"Admission was free, which seems a little overpriced." might be your best joke yet.

[@LemonEyeDrops]

That one got me too 😂 😂 😂

[@erinthesystem9608]

I disagree! The corpse smell perfume sounds like an interesting conceptual piece, and it was clearly created as a novelty- not for wear, even by a niche market! Otherwise, there would be too many sickening pranks played with the stuff.

[@stephaniesamra7960]

@@erinthesystem9608 hey what’s this in English… gone over my head???

[@erinthesystem9608]

@@stephaniesamra7960 Are you being serious or sarcastic?

[@gregevans6044]

Right?

[@davyprendergast82]

A quote from a killer near my hometown a couple of decades back, seems relevant: "people like me don't come from those films, those films come from people like me." I expect personality disorders rather than a genre of music are responsible

[@elizabeth2621]

That was kind of deep ngl lol

[@erinthesystem9608]

It's a cliche because it's also a truism: Reality is indeed stranger than fiction, and fictitious monsters are based on the real monsters that some people become. ~ One of these which was especially sad was literally fictitious "Frankenstein" monster. He was created with beauty as the intention, and so long as he kept his appearance under wraps, he was known by his actions alone- and praised for these, as they called him the "Good spirit"; however, upon being seen, he was feared and treated as a monster. He began to complain to the Doctor, his maker, of loneliness, but to create for his own "monster" a partner was something Dr. Frankenstein could not bring himself to do. Still, the monster tried to remain hidden- but his facade was cracking, his heart broken. Eventually good deeds gave way to a singular focus: revenge on the fools of humanity, but especially vengeance upon the one who created him. The most crucial human needs were denied, and a heart hardened into changing its own deeds, as the unmet need for acceptance and love curdled into resentment and hatred. And people can still be cruelly superficial in their rejections of one another, their denial of the humanity of another, every day. Anyway, that was how a creature- intended to be a man- came to despise its own humanity; all it took was consistent cruelty and unfair judgments on the part of good people who were simply too frightened to accept the monster's kindnesses- due to the physical ugliness of its source. There was never really a way to escape being designated as a "monster."

[@amandacherie5779]

I agree. He obviously has a mental problem. The music he chose did not make him who he is. Frankly, that's bullshit

[@susanraickle5524]

100% right

[@edwardwright2989]

Yeah ok, that's about as deep as a tea spoon.

[@gapeachmeg8589]

Debra Kelley was my Sociology professor. I was shocked when I heard about this story. I even met Emma when she was 5 years old. Very very sad.

[@KinslayerOfDoom]

Meanwhile, Corpsegrinder - the vocalist for the death metal band Cannibal Corpse - when he's not singing songs about murder and torture, plays claw machine wherever they tour and donates all the plushies he wins to a chindrens' charity.

[@fichshreds2661]

It really depends on the person. People like things for different reasons. This dude was clearly a troubled teenager who didn't know how to deal with life. Also, what the f*ck is up with everyone getting bullied in American schools?!

[@Lilboozibert]

George is in death metal, though. This horror core is rap. Rap is an extremely violent form of entertainment. The drill music is getting so bad, rappers are literally rapping their true crimes in the lyrics. Metalheads can wear as many skulls and bones as they want, their body count is low compared to other forms of music.

[@TheBones1188]

@@Lilboozibert rap isn't a violent form of entertainment. Rap is categorized by word play. Are metal heads not the same people that have mosh pits where they beat each other senseless?

[@JeremyGBranch]

@@Lilboozibert c’mon. Stahp. Music isn’t violence. Music is music. How many people have bought an Eminem album or downloaded Tyler the Creator? How many of them have murdered people? How many people play GTA or watch gangster movies or horror movies? How many of them have murdered people? Two of the victims listened to the same genre as the killer, yet yes the one that acted out violently. I say that to say- music doesn’t make people bad, but even bad people gotta listen to something.

[@BeastCake1349]

Yeah. He’s really an innocent kid at heart. If you met him in person you’d be surprised that he “ sings” about the most disgusting vulgar things imaginable.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Horror core “… a disturbing and bizarre collection of sounds..” I swear Dr Grande, you’re so funny!

[@cottontails9003]

Hello beautiful lady. You make my world rock 😜❤❤💙💙

[@joantendler6518]

I caught that-hilarious!

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

@@cottontails9003 hello back, my precious darling one ❤

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

Why do serial killers listen to the voice in their head telling them to commit murder, but not their mother telling them to clean up their room?

[@LeonWick526]

Because it's easier for them to commit murder? That's why they're serial killers in the first place.

[@crongusclips7836]

And music is a universal language

[@spencerhaabs]

Cause moms are boring!!!!!!!!

[@delimini9634]

😄

[@xminusone1]

That's a very deep mystery indeed.

[@jpc3603]

In an era where kids are consistently on social media despite parental guards and whatever other walls you have on devices, I unfortunately understand Emma's parents wanting to create an open environment where she's not keeping things from them. I remember my friends who had very strict parents just lied to them and they were the ones who would always do drugs at parties their parents often didn't even know they were at. The problem is knowing when to draw the line, perhaps if they had done more research into the genre of "music" they'd have understood this was the time but they're not responsible for these deaths, the murderer is.

[@charliechurch5004]

Actually boundaries don't guarantee kids will lie. It's called parenting ppl need to start doing it again it's good for society

[@holstonmatt]

@@charliechurch5004 while i do somewhat agree i think kids having too little freedom make them lie and make them a rebal i had stuff broken when i act up befour and that made everything worse

[@SG-xo5ug]

As a parent raising young children, I have a really hard time with this case as well as societal perceptions of what makes a “good parent.” If you stand up to your child and tell them no, you’re viewed as controlling and not allowing your child to express and explore who they are as individuals. You’re told you worry too much and to just let it be and things will pass. If you permit and supervise closely(as in this case) so you allow them freedom with boundaries but something tragic happens, you are irresponsible and horrible and blamed. As a culture, people can’t make up their minds and only judge after. The norm is that in a case like this, the parents allow the child to see their fantasy under supervision and the child is disillusioned as was the case here. Usually it fizzles and the phase passes. But when it doesn’t work out like that the parents are blamed for being too friendly. How are we modern parents supposed to rear our children when everything is at their fingertips? It is easy for kids to sneak, manipulate, etc. no matter how well you monitor. I struggle so much to know what the right answers are because anymore you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

[@magdam8290]

Yep, I agree, so much judgement for parents there. Let's be honest, they were extremely unlucky. All blame should be shifted to the killer. He was the one to blame, he took advantage of their hospitality and committed these horrible acts. They propably thought it's better if she met her online "boyfriend" with their supervision, then if she would have met him alone lying about her whereabouts.

[@SG-xo5ug]

@@magdam8290 exactly- I am actually shocked at the analysis he gave at the end because in other cases he also says parents shouldn’t be overbearing- so again which is it? I guess if it were me, my thought would be the same and try to protect my child if things got out of hand. What can you do when the guy acts fine and then murders you in your sleep because the kid rejects him???

[@stephaniesamra7960]

Well thought out.. I agree with you 💯 percent. Not a parent myself but I bet it’s damn hard raising children these days.. good luck parents out there.. your job is not easy 👍

[@Bauks]

I would lean towards default permission and openness. And not in a 'friend" kind of way, but a supervised from a short distance kind of way... They are in fact their own people, not just a clone of you. If they go through life making mistakes there is very little you can do for them but love them and help them as best as you can. You can't make their choices for them, you will go crazy trying to. Most people aren't murderers. And most phases really do just pass. This story is an outlier, not the norm...

[@SG-xo5ug]

@@Bauks I think we all understand this is the exception- the point is that when things like this do happen, people are quick to blame parents for doing what is relatively normal. That is where the struggle lies- most parents try their best to have a balance and dealing with rebellious attitudes complicates an already difficult job. How do you lovingly guide a rebellious child without pushing them away (again no matter what parents get blamed- too harsh, too nonchalant, why didn’t they _____ and more) The truth is, people think they know everything about others when really every single person reacts differently. You won’t reach people in the same ways but as a society we can’t accept that. We judge based on what works for our circumstances and perceptions. Not everything is a textbook and it is frustrating that no matter how hard you try, if your kid has a moral or life lesson failing, parents are blamed for the outcome

[@burneraka7675]

"Farmville Quadruple Murder" is not a combination of words I ever thought I'd see.

[@jenniferjohnson9808]

You're the best! You are the guy that I look forward to listening to while doing dishes, making delicious food or getting ready for bed. 💖 Love your take...

[@rullmourn1142]

Your analysis of Emma's parents helping her to meet Richard, is the same as mine. They were supposed to be her parents, not her teen high school friends.

[@DrLC.]

I’m so sorry 😔

[@KinslayerOfDoom]

Also, she was 16 while the dude was 20 - a bit creepy, no? Age of consent in Virginia is 15 so while their "relationship" was legal, it still should have rang some bells in her parents' empty heads.

[@djourknows_3496]

@@KinslayerOfDoom no it didn’t ring any bells in her parents heads because they didn’t gave any bells or balls to put their foot down

[@JustMe-ef7xv]

Remarkable gullibility on all the parents parts.

[@MrBryan247]

Gift of fear book threat assessment needed.

[@gj4257]

Everyone needs to watch at least one Dr. G video a day for wisdom and entertainment. For a couple of months, I fell off the boat due to some unexpected life circumstances. I am currently going back and watching all your narcissism videos. What a goldmine of information! Unbeknownst to me, I had briefly gotten involved with a vulnerable narcissist and I’m kicking myself for not having checked the Dr. G archives for the wealth of information on that topic. Thank you for keeping us all grounded and helping unscramble our thoughts! Btw love your Harm Reduction book!!!! Thanks for everything, Dr. G! You’re the best!

[@freelanceopportunist559]

It's not that any musical genre can twist a normal mind, it's that twisted people are attracted to certain genres. As a metalhead, this is something I'm familiar with.

[@nasir6r996]

So you probably have some opinions about Black Metal, then Which...I mean, fair enough I guess. The guys in Watain are kind if screwy

[@PreachermanDamned]

I fucking love some black metal. Especially Blackened death metal and even Blackened Shoe-gaze…I’m a little twisted but more so in a neurotic obsessive compulsive manner…that being said there’s a few nazis and psychopaths but they can fuck off.

[@rumrunner8019]

@@nasir6r996 99% of people who like black metal are no more insane than people who like Stephen King novels or horror movies.

[@dextermorgan7439]

I listen to horrorcore. And i'd like to think i'm not twisted 😛 never hurted anyone and i do not want to either. I'm a lifeguard in a swimmingpool. I care for people who got hurt

[@lisamac8503]

@@dextermorgan7439 Is the music enjoyable and positive and do you feel positive after listening ? Not criticizing I am just curious I think it does give one an identity When we surround ourselves with negativity we tend to carry it around If you care about people then do you see that the people you care about could suffer? Its a disconnect Like those that LOVE animals and eat them When we disconnect we forget that everyone is us and we are everyone Just my opinion

[@karlepaul6632]

This boils down to a very disturbed man, and some very loving parents who were unfortunately naive and didn't take more charge of their daughter. Yeah, Emma really rained on Richard's parade, as that was a pretty harsh rejection, but that happens more often than not where murders don't occur afterwards. Great vid!

[@djourknows_3496]

not about loving parents some parents are just pushovers… you can’t be a pushover and let your teen who’s going through a difficult faze boss u around

[@xminusone1]

@@djourknows_3496 Yes. You have to know where to draw the line. You can be a good parent and share many things with your older kids while remaining a good guiding parent. But as you say, many can't do both. It seems to me that they fear their child not love them anymore.

[@mrazik131]

loving parents have no boundaries....lol

[@menzere2009]

Although I don’t like horrorcore , I’ve liked horror as a genre since I was a kid and never came close to harming anyone. I don’t think it really has anything to do with this murder.

[@charliechurch5004]

@@djourknows_3496 DAMN RIGHT

[@skepticalbutopen4620]

“Admission was free, which seems a little overpriced” 😂

[@skepticalbutopen4620]

@Betty Blue good to know

[@rullmourn1142]

Thanks, Dr Grande, this is a case I've never heard about, which is rare for me. I find it a disturbing that Emma's parents felt it was ok for their 16 year old daughter to be [dating] a 20 year old man, that they know literally nothing about. Even going through the trouble of a 10 hour drive to facilitate it.

[@cappmom5]

I wonder if she had run away before, or if they were afraid she would, and they thought that might prevent it? It's the only thing I can think of.

[@charliechurch5004]

@@cappmom5 no excuse u can not parent based on fear!! They messed up! So sad!!

[@charliechurch5004]

Exactly

[@dammar117]

A 20 year old "man"... lol.

[@kashmm]

0:59 Doc you never fail to make me laugh, haha!! I came initially to your channel to learn about N.P.D, but the addition of jokes has been another layer of comfort you have given. Thank you for everything you do.

[@bowtiejess80]

"disturbing and bizarre collections of sounds" also got me giggling.

[@kathycochran544]

Dr. Grande ,you are a hard working man. Thanks for sharing your intelligence!

[@edgybarbie77]

The police really dropped the ball on this one. Seems unbelievable how they didn't pick up on the smell 🤷‍♀️ Glad Dr. Grande brought this up because I thought this the 1st time I heard about this some time ago.

[@fardrives]

Ultimately the police could have only prevented one of the murders. I'm more surprised by the decision making from the parents but i'd imagine its difficult to sense a murderer before it's too late.

[@BlackAdder665]

@@fardrives "Only one"? 🤨It's worth following a hint when you can save a life, I think.

[@fardrives]

@@BlackAdder665 wasn't saying it's not worth it. Troll somewhere else please

[@KinslayerOfDoom]

They picked up the "we don't want to deal with this" smell.

[@Andromeda_M31]

I lived in Virginia for about 10 years. The only thing the cops want to do there is harass daily commuters because they know they'll pay the fines.

[@arianaislas5353]

I saw an episode of Web of Lies years ago about this case and it stuck with me. It had interviews of the mother and I felt so bad for her. She blamed herself for Mark's death in the end. . It's S1E6.

[@Hollypenopepper]

Thanks, I'm going to check that out! 😎👍🏼

[@brookiegremlin6660]

I've watched that episode a bunch of times. So sad and haunting.

[@gregevans6044]

Yikes. Yeah, I didn't think about that. God, what a horror

[@wolfslullaby]

Melanie's mother?

[@charliechurch5004]

@@brookiegremlin6660 why would u watch it multiple times 😂 sounds disturbing

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating how the terms 'Farmville' and 'Murder' came to be used in the same sentence like this.

[@LDiamondz]

I thought Farmville was just a cute online game, like Candy Crush. Now that I know more, my kids are banned from playing that murderous game! Hello, BZ. Saw your website. Loved the MH obituary! lol. 🤣

[@BigZebraCom]

@@LDiamondz thank you so much! you are always awesome!

[@LDiamondz]

Yw! You are awesome! Had to check out the site to see if it had that same BZ wit as your posts. It does! 🤣

[@BigZebraCom]

@@LDiamondz THANK YOU! :)

[@dogcat2994]

Informative, honest, articulate, logical...as usual, thank u for everything you do Doctor!

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi Dr. Grande. There wasn't an excuse for that guy to be in a posistion to kill anyone. He wasn't as he was described in his pictures. I can guarentee he was the real bully in the situation. That's the reason he got picked on. Why do people like him act as if they're right ,when obviously, they're at fault? Good analysis Dr. about the narcissism. I think he's both= psychonarc. Peace & hope you're having a fabulous e evening, love, Janine Smiley✌👍😀🙂😎😍🤩🥝🍎🍊🍌🍉🏡🍦🍨🍧🍫🥧☕🍩💒🦓🦄🆒️💯❕❗🍫🍯

[@grimslade0]

I have a friend who was in hospital for several months with gangrene (i.e. necrotic tissue) in his leg. He claims he can't enjoy Zombie video games or films because seeing the necrosis "reminds him of the smell of death". Therefore, it's pretty damn bizarre anyone would want that in a perfume... Even for art, as it infact can ruin art for those exposed to it.

[@elinorregina]

Shock value is overrated

[@gingerwalker8407]

This happened 20 minutes away from where we live. A friend of ours lives across the street from this house and walking her dog, the odor was prominent. This street is lovely but with a catch. This area is a two University town and older houses have become houses used as student rental property. Two theories were rampant regarding the cops. The police were beyond bone weary of constant complaints against wild, restless and drunk students. BUT the second call to the police is theorized to have been to take out the cops as his next grand crime but was too much of a coward face to face so he couldn’t. So much tragedy for absolutely nothing!

[@nasir6r996]

I never thought I'd ever hear you say "Lil' demon dog", especially in your trademark deadpan I can die happy now

[@nubianprincess2771]

I'm from Richmond, VA and remember this case. This was a stunner!!

[@StyleChatter]

As an educator it is endlessly frustrating to see so many parents not know how to be the adults in their childrens’ lives. I wonder how widespread this is in the current and recent generations. It’s horrible that these parents’ lack of common sense (why didn’t they take themselves and their daughter into both family and individual therapy sessions??) resulted in such horrifying murders.

[@mamaj4002]

Another excellent analysis Dr. G! You slipped in some good jokes once again😂😂😂 I like to listen to horror punk and metal and it has never caused me to want to hurt people..quite the opposite actually. I strongly agree with you about parents needing to be in charge of their kids.. compassion isn't always soft and fuzzy.. and children need both sides of compassion. Wishing you a fabulous day!🤘😎

[@jeanetteseaman3986]

I really enjoy your channel, most of what I find so enjoyable is your strait faced puns. It makes the topics a bit easier to digest. Let's be honest some of the folks you profile for the most part are not the pillars of the community, some are your garden variety benign narcissist to the beast of all beast, the psychopaths who live among us. Anyhow, don't stop the tongue and cheek delivery it cracks me up just at the right time. TY...

[@knotheadusc]

Ooh! I am a graduate of Longwood University in Farmville. I remember when this happened, even though it was years after I graduated. Glad to see you covering this.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

Good Morning Dr. Grande🥰💋 THANK YOU SO SO SO SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! You're the absolute best! The suspense of not knowing what you're going to say for your analysis literally leaves my stomach feeling the anticipation. So cool, lol.

[@darcyspicer9101]

I was 9 years old and living in Farmville when the murders took place. I haven’t learned anything about the murders until fairly recently. I remember trick or treating in that neighborhood after the fact and my dad making some comment about the Halloween decorations at the house… what a horrible, horrible case.

[@JonBoyMaccabeeHaya]

Some people think that death ,the devil and wickedness is so captivating and cool. Oh, how they have it so wrong.

[@We_Are_All_Vultures]

It is, but not the kich, childish teenage interpretation of it.

[@mathie2037]

My comment is that it his problems started when he was being bullied. A lot of victims of bullying who cannot stand up for themselves at the time will retaliate and explode sometime in the future. Bullying needs to be addressed.

[@Relayzy1]

Everyone can stand up for themselves, cowards don't...

[@cottontails9003]

Good afternoon Dr Grande. This was a brilliant analysis of tragic and senseless murder . Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis and sad topic.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

Good morning, my darling little Cotton Tails! Look at that! You got a heart from Dr Grande, and a hug from your friend BH already today! 🤗 It’s going to be a beautiful day! (and I’m so excited about the super moon tonight! You can see it really good in the desert!) Hugs!

[@cottontails9003]

@@BucketHeadianHagg I'm so grateful I met you. You make my world rock. Will look out for the moon , most things are clearer in the Southern Hemisphere. Or great southern land (Australia ). Lots of hugs too you.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

@@cottontails9003 How astoundingly breathtaking was the moon these last two nights!! My view of the mountains isn’t obstructed by freeways or casinos because the land isn’t completely developed yet, so I get the perfect view of the moon rising every night! I wonder what it’s like to be a native Australian.. I wonder what it’s like, to wonder what it’s like here in the states..

[@cottontails9003]

@@BucketHeadianHagg I think it's stunning, we don't have the smog build up. Yes apart from the cold, the moon and stars are so clear. Thank you my beautiful friend.

[@lf9341]

I'm 56 now. My parents were extremely strict and not let me date until I was 18. Behind their back I was dating a 38 year old that was doing construction on my house. I was 16. Please do not blame the parents.

[@GelatinousCube-jw8vg]

How about a speculative analysis on the 1984 kidnapping of Jody Plauche by Jeffery Doucett? What made the case famous is the reaction of Jody’s father, Gary Plauche. Very interesting and chock full of potential mental health factors. Either way please keep up the amazing work you are doing. We all enjoy your videos regardless of the topics you choose.

[@emilyemily444]

Yes! This case please Dr Grande 🙏

[@gangstagarf]

incredible suggestion

[@k0dzi0]

Literally 1984!

[@rosered6876]

That case was insane.

[@GabrielTheMagolorMain]

There’s some interviews with Jody on youtube, really interesting to hear from him.

[@debb1137]

"Apparently, in 2020, a few people developed a 'smell of death' perfume-I guess this was in an effort to capture the underserved serial-killer perfume market." DYING. 🤣🤣🤣

[@cherylbralick7110]

I've made the same mistake with my daughter (not to this extent) in allowing her to make bad choices in the hopes that she would learn from them and choose a different path. Unfortunately that only works on TV and movies. She made bad choices and continues to do so.

[@xminusone1]

It happens sometimes but it's not always the parent's fault. Teens and young adults can be responsible for theirs owns mistakes and bad choices. You've did it to gave them choices, they ended up to make the wrong ones. It's like the saying "you can bring a horse to the river but you can't force it to drink"

[@jenbingham0914]

Sadly, I am in the same boat. I was hoping she would learn her lesson on multiple occasions. But no, she is not in a good place. I was a good mom. I always just wanted her to learn lessons from every mistake. That worked great until she was got to be an adult. Please dont beat yourself up about it.

[@DH-ve5bl]

@ Jennifer Bingham. It’s very hard to walk that line between being a parent and also being your child’s friend. If you physically or verbally fight with your kid the kid will shut you out. You’ve got to drop hints and suggestions. Be persistent but not pushy. Make them know you love them and maybe, with positive reinforcement, they will begin to realize how toxic a lot of the culture really is. This is not just a cultural debate, it’s a matter of life and death.

[@KimberlyLetsGo]

Lesson learned? Don’t look to TV shows on how to raise your kids.

[@stormcorrosion176]

Yeah you f*ked up

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Music is an extremely powerful force and influence. It can be inspirational for good or detrimental for evil. They say we are what we eat but we also are what we listen to. People can be indoctrinated via music, especially those who have weak psyches. If one lives off of junk food they will have an unhealthy body. If one lives off of negative and harmful music it could lead to an unhealthy mind.

[@jaspersilence9328]

There seems to be a certain comfort in the horrorcore music,for the kids that aren't so popular in social paradigms..I think it's because of the shock value of it...There's a feeling of justification for why they are "different". It gives them the illusion that they are feared,and THAT'S the reason for their social status...it's sad...kids are harsh,man.

[@ShunyamNiketana]

As soon as I hear "online romantic relationship," I shake my head. While I hold people involved accountable, I think virtual reality has to be emphasized as a main ingredient for this chain of hideously violent and retardedly antisocial behaviors. Traveling across the country because one is supposedly in love with someone she has never seen doesn't have to result in disappointment, but it's certainly a risk. Meeting someone for coffee when neither of you has shared a picture is better left to adults; at least most of them have the maturity to find an honest, tactful way to say the relationship doesn't have wings. Middle-aged parents should know.

[@bettinabarry8423]

The chillling consequences of his derangement --- pride and vanity. Thank you, Dr Grande for your analysis 👏 Perhaps your excellent analysis will resonate causing an awareness that might help prevent other crimes taking place.

[@gretchen3147]

Another great video!

[@KenKaplanpch]

Great dry humor added to the analysis is always a welcomed addition! Great job!

[@btetschner]

Emma apparently did not know what she was getting into. Her parents apparently forgot that they were her parents. Emma might not have seen any harm in "trying out" a boy that she was pretending to be interested in. Very unique case and very helpful analysis, thank you.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

Excellent analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤️

[@elinorregina]

If I recall correctly, Melanie's mom convinced Melanie's dad to drive all the way from W Va to check on her and he actually knocked on the door of the house after the murders of Melanie and Emma and Emma's mom but before Emma's dad came by and was murdered by Richard. When no one answered he turned around and drove all the way back to W Va.

[@thestraydog]

Dude! My gf is from the Farmville/Burkeville area (going back there with her this weekend for her birthday) and EVERYONE still talks about this madness in her family. In fact, her grandmother used to cut the father's hair regularly. It's the type of town that you would never expect anything so grisly to happen, cute little college town... Shame...

[@bringoujelqings4078]

Don't murder her

[@Skateandcreate9]

No lie back in the day i got really heavy in 3 6 Mafia and i went down a crazy memphis rap/horror rap rabbit hole and i literally was becoming psychotic from it. I was also drinking and smoking a lot of weed at the time and i know that surely accentuated things but man its scary how something you think you’re enjoying thoroughly is slowly turning you into a straight up monster. I would mean mug people at all times and wish someone started something with me for no reason. Horrible way to live.

[@JeremyGBranch]

I've always operated under the assumption that most people have the mental fortitude to differentiate fantasy from reality... but I suppose I am naive. Anecdotally, I've listened to trap and drill, played violent videogames, and watched horror movies for decades and am an empathetic person. Mortal Kombat is like my favorite franchise, yet I've never had the urge to "finish him". I wonder what the difference is? James Bond kills a dozen people in every movie, yet no one points to action movies as a source of bad behavior. To me, it seems a little like cherry-picking to fit a narrative. Btw, I was in Memphis last month for a horror convention and got to visit Graceland and Sun Studio. Beautiful city.

[@lubtv8792]

Damn, how you gonna throw three six under the bus like that?

[@LindyQ]

Hahah atleast it wasn't the Mumble Rapper Rabitt Hole

[@Relayzy1]

I was making out with Girls with three six in the background, i still like it a lot, sounds like something is wrong with you not the music...

[@hellohsaytin6813]

Hello Dr. Grande!! Could you please analyze the case of Sylvia Lykins, a young girl who was slowly beaten and tortured to death by a woman and the neighborhood kids who started out as her friends? I genuinely would love to hear your thoughts on how such a thing could happen and how so many kids could be convinced to kill their own friend. Thank you Doctor i love all that you do for us ❤

[@nancyneyedly4587]

Well, I had to look into this since you mentioned it. What a horrible thing to happen. There would be a lot to analyze in that case.

[@katiekarakondis3348]

There was a very well made chilling movie made of this case

[@jeanie8831]

Good suggestion. Horrific murder.

[@GravyGoodbread]

@@katiekarakondis3348 wish I never saw that movie. Really traumatized me for a long time after. I didn’t sleep the night I watched it.

[@hellohsaytin6813]

@@katiekarakondis3348 whats it called?

[@Meenadevidasi]

Your videos help me so much to see the dangers posed by some people in my everyday life. Thank you

[@nmartin5551]

Sad. Emma’s parents tried to do the right thing to supervise and guide their daughter and her LD online boyfriend. This generation of LD relationships v. IRL relationships is fraught with peril. They don’t have the market cornered by any means. But sad. And clearly their choice was not the right one.

[@user-ic9qm8mb4t]

I'm so completely horrified by this terrible story. As a 75 year old I don't know how to understand the world around me anymore.

[@Skateandcreate9]

The world isn’t a happy go lucky fairy tale like you were probably grown up to believe. Many people are aware of that fact at a very young age these days. Religion is a farce and they grift you just like the politicians. Wake up before you leave this planet, please.

[@Skateandcreate9]

Your generations denial of reality is pretty much what got us to where we are as a society too. Sorry, the truth hurts.

[@danielhouse6244]

Thank you Dr. Grande. Funny. Wise. Intelligent. Repetitive, because you found what works!

[@BlackAdder665]

Almost every (serious) KZbinr is "repetetive", i.e. has a signature intro, style, and structure.

[@fichshreds2661]

@@BlackAdder665 Everyone in any profession is repetitive. It's just how life works. We are creatures of habit.

[@BobsRevenge]

I went to Longwood University in Farmville VA at this time, this sent a shockwave through the school, tbh I had forgotten about it in all these years since

[@susanburns276]

Truly appreciate your varied topics and find there's always something interesting to learn 👍🇭🇲

[@georgehaslam6780]

Great! Love your dry humor and droll delivery, dude!!!

[@padussia]

I love your videos!

[@tonidunn3149]

Hello👋 from Aus🇦🇺🤠. Love the videos, the topics you choose and the shirts👔👍, love the yorkie🤣 video🐶🐕. Just a BIG shout out to the nearly 1.2 million fans/subscribers ✌✌❤❤ Well done Dr Grande🤩🤩

[@ramblinralph7609]

The bullying he got in high school ain't gonna be nothing compared to the bullying he'll get in prison.

[@Sinsteel]

I couldn't believe they would drive 10 hours for a concert. EACH WAY!

[@megatherion2695]

@@pressure609 So true.

[@Sinsteel]

@@pressure609 I've seen upwards of 1000 live music concerts, over couple hundred just in a month I spent in London in the early 90s - that included some large festival line-ups though. Next suggestion?

[@jennyb1650]

Please can you analyse the Murad Merali scandal from yesterday? PLEASE! 🤞🏼

[@MikeyD0]

Nobody knows who that is

[@intentionallyleftblank3016]

I bet he won’t! He’s too smart to go starting a beef with another Utuber! ps- what happened?

[@jennyb1650]

@@MikeyD0 you mean you don’t know who it is. Lol. Enough know him enough that he was trending yesterday

[@charleyh1480]

@@intentionallyleftblank3016 He's talked about other youtubes before

[@TomikaKelly]

What happened with Murad? I love that guy!

[@Cleric_al]

A case of when unsound parenting meets the road. So they drove the girl out there to meet the creepy little s--- wth... Everybody wasn't raised the same

[@megalopolis2015]

Even if this guy had a great personality, one thing that did not escape my notice is that he was an adult, whereas Emma was still a minor. A relationship should never be enabled for this reason alone. Parents don't always remember that they are to protect, guide, and set firm boundaries for their children, rather than be their personal drivers, valets, chefs, housecleaners, answering service, and luggage carriers. This family paid for this oversight dearly, but our society is paying, too, with young people believing they are more important than anyone else, and their feelings matter more than individual rights. We may not always like the limits set for us, but they are ideally placed so that we may get alone with others, have active empathy, and be safe and well. It's high time to get back to sanity.

[@Bauks]

The age of consent in West Virginia is 16. Emma's mom and dad were 3 years apart in age, granted her mom was older than her dad... As a guy in my 30's the idea of a 4-year gap in a relationship is trivial. I assume it was a nonissue for them too. Most people aren't murderers... They were just very unlucky...

[@karlepaul6632]

@@Bauks Agreed

[@dammar117]

Girls mature faster than boys, so the 4-year gap was nothing. I dated young men in their mid to late 20s when I was 16, it was a non issue. A 20-year old boy would have been barely right to me.

[@megalopolis2015]

@@Bauks There is a big difference between people dating as 27 and 31 year old adults, and someone old enough to graduate college dating a sophomore in high school. I was in many ways much more mature at sixteen than the twenty-one year old father of my first child, but I was still young, and he was still old enough to figure out how to take advantage of me, which he did.

[@dammar117]

@@megalopolis2015 People can be taken advantage of at any age. But it is contradictory to say that you were more mature and that you were taken advantage of. I don't know you, but I have the impression that you are now judging the situation retroactively based on numerical values only, which is something very aligned with today's way of reasoning. Maybe he didn't take advantage of you, maybe he was himself young, impulsive and reckless. At 21, most boys are.

[@passwordsuggestion5336]

Had to inform myself about Horrorcore. I read lyrics to a song called Wendigo. I am now trying to understand why there are so many people liking this type of sound collections. What a horrific content.

[@samanthabuschel9077]

You never fail to make me laugh. I love watching your videos and have been sharing them. My mother and I were wondering if you would analyze Clara Harris?

[@thatisabsolutelykooooge2211]

Wow this hit home. I don’t live *too far from the cities where he was born and grew up. Just wow.

[@Kattakam]

Wonderful analysis! You captured it perfectly.

[@gregevans6044]

Always good analysis, Doc

[@asmr_nostalgia]

Brilliant as usual Dr Grande.

[@Cissy2cute]

As with so many people, Dr. Grande misuses the term "loner". A great book on who really are loners is Anneli Rufus's "Party of One". We true loners like being by ourselves most of the time, though occasionally we enjoy others' company. What is wrong with using loner as the public does is that, like this person, these are people who really want to be accepted by others and be social butterflies. The problem is that others reject them for one reason or another. No way was he a loner but an individual who wanted to be with others but for some reason he never was. Looks like his appearance turned people off as well as the lack of mannerisms that went along with this horror group. So please don't call people like him a "loner". The word is misused so much. We really are just people who prefer our own company most of the time. That's it.

[@eadweard.]

There is much truth to what you say. But "us" loners can be knobheads too.

[@TheLadyEgg]

Okay snowflake

[@gregrice3867]

Gruesome crime and interesting analysis is, again. Please explain how Shame is involved in Narcissism. Is shame more related to ego, and selfish type of ideation? Isn't shame part of feeling guilt and responsibility - and therefore a necessary element for a conscience? Isn't a conscience, and its implicit empathy or empathic reasoning what is absent from one's psychological system, which defines a Narcissist?

[@BlackAdder665]

There are two types of narcissism. You're thinking of malignant narcissism, Dr. Grande explicitly talked about vulnerable narcissism which is quite different. The shame in a vulnerable narcissist is not of the type you feel for something you've done, but rather for your self, the way you are, your personality (or traits of it) for your existence even, if it's bad. Hope that helped. :-)

[@michaelgreer9023]

"Horroism: Naming Contemporary Violence: A Sermon about Richard McCroskey" Greetings to those seeking a peaceful haven in a turbulent, troubled world. Today we examine the prevalence of horroism in our culture and choose to focus on Dr. Grande's excellent analysis of how Richard McCrosky conveyed the message of "horrorism" to the rest of us sitting comfortably in front of our computer screens or watching KZbin videos on very large screens. First I will distinguish horror from terror, then show why McCroskey is an apostle of horroism, and then conclude with an uplifting message of love and peace. (1) Horrorism is a term introduced into contemporary discourse by Adriana Cavarero, a professor who teaches in the city of Verona in Italy. Cavarero, careful scholar that she is, distinguishes between terror and horror. Like so many Latin words introduced in the English language the word "horreo" reference the bristling of the flesh or "goosebumps" If at any time you notice goosebumps on your body, you are engaged in something horrible. I imagine those on doomed airplane flights, aware of imminent death, react in goosebumps, though I've never been on a doomed airplane. It's only speculation. This sense in Latin has its origin in the what we know as "cold" as in "cold blooded" or "life threatening exposure to extreme cold." (2) Because each of us enjoys a living body the thought of decapitation, widely publicized by the use of the guillotine, has gone down in history as an agent of "cold, indifferent death." In McCroskey's case it was not a guillotine but a maul, something like an axe which lead to the mutilation and death of four people. What causes the sense of horror is knowing that we could, at any time and for any reason, be assaulted by someone with a maul, a sledge hammer or an axe. Our bodies are vulnerable to catastrophe. (3) So what can we say about this predicament? Mr. McCroskey was able to use a maul and a hammer to invite the stench of death into our lives through his initial identification with "horrorcore." The antidote to this disease is our faith in the Resurrection of the body. If the Eternal Father can create living bodies, He can also rescue those same bodies from organic catastrophe. May we all have faith in the Resurrection of the flesh. Amen.

[@chudleyflusher7132]

Grow up.

[@lynnehuff7059]

Oh, please.

[@diannabutler2674]

Kids have enough friends. What they need is parents.

[@jojophilips3803]

Another entertaining view, thanks!

[@ReedRosson1987]

Please do a video about The Smiley Face Killers. Keep up the great work, Dr. Grande! Love and Respect from South Nashville!

[@lauren1779]

What is it even like to be asleep in total dark unconsciousness and then experience possibly a very brief moment of pain and then fade into death. Such a sad story and so senseless :(

[@SJ-007]

I imagine it differently. I have experienced OBEs a couple of times in the past, and I am rather obsessed/intrigued by NDEs. I think what would it be like to be brutally murdered in your sleep like that, and then your spirit pops out of your body and you see and realise what has happened. What would that be like? Also if that scenario happened first with Melanie, would she then be a helpless witness to the murders that followed? Would they cross over together?? I understand that we have a difference in beliefs, as you said "fade" into death, but just commenting to add what I wonder when I hear of sad things like this.

[@Lucky_Chase]

"...Disturbing and bizarre collections of sounds." I couldn't describe it better.

[@tayaroo]

I'm shocked I never heard about this. I grew up going to that concert venue.

[@Bauks]

If I fly 2800 miles to meet a girl, to then be driven to a concert another 10 hours away by her parents, only to be ghosted by her in person... It's safe to say I won't be going back to her house with her and her parents after that. I am going to get a white T-shirt (

[@cintroberts6614]

It is good to see the parenting component brought to light in your analysis because that is where the root cause of these behaviors are located. I can imagine that finding information regarding upbringing is very difficult, however if it is discovered it will give a clear insight as to what has gone wrong in these situations. If these problems are prevented and addressed at home then the world will be a much safer place.

[@Flamsterette]

Thanks for your analysis, Dr. Grande.

[@gerry2345]

I like this vid. Good insight and Great anaylsis.

[@marlinfisher2529]

Dear Dr G. what a great dark shirt - perfect for this excellent analysis. Ah catastrophic situations. kind regards from Australia.

[@alexmartin3143]

I’m so interested in hearing your take on these. I remember watching an ID show covering this case years ago…

[@varain87]

any musical genre that ends in "core" is below any contempt,BUT when i see people in the 21st century, debating if music (no matter what genre) is to blame for murders, those debates make me feel ashamed that i'm a human being. i thought that after the pmrc,such disgraces to human species will not happen anymore.

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

Something can inspire crime or murder, you shouldn't blame the music but it definitely can perpetuate crime with the wrong people. If someone is young or mentally ill etc it's easy to be influenced by media

[@Vonononie]

How about ‘Bardcore’ where modern music is given the baroque/renaissance treatment? Hildegard von Blingin’ doesn’t deserve your contempt

[@jhoughjr1]

Yeah let's go back to pretending music doesn't affect people. I've seen direct correlation between moods and the degenerate shit ppl listen to.

[@itscloudstrife]

breakcore is bumpin whaaaat r u saaaying

[@spasticjackson9578]

The PMRC just made it easier for kids to find twisted content. Massive fail.

[@Kageoni187]

I get the parents taking an active part in the relationship. They did what good parents do they get involved and familiar with their child’s hobbies and preferences. I do think that they should have been concerned about the 4 year age gap. The potential “relationship”should have been cause for concern. That should have been a no go for the event. I don’t feel they made a mistake about the concert. Richard did all the things he needed to be unassuming and non threatening. Remember media does not make people violent or killers. In fact the vast majority of people who listen to death metal, horror core rap, and songs with dark themes are actually fantastic people. Music, movies, TV, books, games, etc are for entertainment. They can help people in cathartic ways. I do feel that they should have been concerned when he became brooding and possibly tried talking to him and showing concern. That might have actually helped him feel like he mattered even though Emma wasn’t interested in a romantic relationship. What he did was horrific and he deserves to receive punishment for it. This type of situation is why I have always had very clear boundaries with people and I teach my children the same. If you are not romantically interested in someone but you want to be friends because you feel they are awesome in other ways you make that clear. I would do this and refuse to allow them to spend any money on me as I didn’t want to risk mixed signals. If they tried to over step boundaries in verbal and/physical was I would stop them and remind them. If someone constantly crosses boundaries you end everything. No contact period because repeatedly crossing boundaries shows that they don’t respect you.

[@greysonpool9765]

The parents should really have questioned why a grown man was interested in their 16 year old daughter.

[@dammar117]

He was not a grown man.

[@ShunyamNiketana]

Please do a study of Nicole Linton, driver of the speeding car that caused the recent horrible multi-vehicle crash in L.A.

[@erinthesystem9608]

He only *identifies* as a rapper.. Like the "Jerry Springer" school of rap 😐 (unfolds sheet of paper) As for the case itself: Less permissive parents might have prevented this. I can't imagine my parents ever agreeing to let some guy I met, on the internet, as a teenager, stay in the house with us- all sight unseen. That just seems so strange to me. It's not a good situation, and I can only imagine that the decision was made after much cajoling, arguing, and bargaining on their daughter's part.

[@artiefufkin88]

I'd already clicked on this before I realized that "music" was in quotations! Lmao XD Also, "commitment to make bad decisions" is gold. "It was free, which seems a little overpriced." Rflao

[@susieangelo6410]

Hi Dr. Grande, Parents nowadays, more than ever needs to take charge and stand up to their kids. Otherwise, the roles will be reversed when the kids tell the parents what to do and demand what they want. Seriously, I knew some parents who wanted to be their child's "friend" and thought it was OK, but soon they find themselves weak, became a pushover, thus created an entitled spoiled brat which they regretted years later of failed parenting.

[@shrapnel77]

As a teacher of 25 years, this is very true.

[@Kalleesto]

Your take away from this story is that it's the parents fault?

[@jhoughjr1]

@@Kalleesto Murderers are not born, they are created by lazy or improper parents.

[@Greenmountainferns]

@@Kalleesto not a great idea to host a young man who you never met( and your teenage daughter met on a horror core rap music site) to stay over your house overnight with your family. You got the tail wagging the dog here. They have some responsibility in this, being a parent is a big deal.

[@jeanie8831]

She was a spoiled brat with a mean personality. Her parents intentions were good, tho they were bad. Her behavior was her own doing.

[@jpc3603]

On another note, the "authorities"❕ “Hmm, you smell like death, that may be traces of human remains on you, we keep getting concerned calls relating to you...nope all good here, have a good rest of your day" 😶

[@browniehendricks3726]

I feel for this mother but felt she should have said no to the concert and her daughter meeting a 20 year old man. Didn't his parents also see this could cause problems? What does everyone else think about this? Rejection, drugs and alcohol do not mix well. A horrendous case. Thanks for covering this one.

[@gRinchY-op5vr]

Yes, a lot of emphasis is put on the rejection and how harsh it was...so people forget she was only 16, he was 20 and catfished her online before they met. He didn't look like the picture he used, didn't act like he did when they messaged and was much older than her.

[@kevinc809]

20 years old isn't really the issue. A few others have said that also. The fact that he was a complete stranger is where the problem was.

[@Bubblebeets]

@@kevinc809 No, there is something very wrong with a 20 year old dating someone who is 16.

[@kevinc809]

@@Bubblebeets Its 4 years. I don't think that is such a big deal. The people in most countries in the world don't either. Regardless of their ages inviting a complete stranger they knew from only text messages and pictures to stay in their home was their big mistake. You can't take that kind of risk.

[@Relayzy1]

​@@Bubblebeetsask you parents how many years they are apart 🤦‍♂️

[@Joffar]

Fantastic police work. Were they transplants from Uvalde?

[@terransystems3291]

Hello Dr. Grande. You mind doing a video on Xi Jinping? I'm just curious about your thoughts on the man.

[@tasosdiaforetico7377]

Just another Mao,Stalin figure

[@terransystems3291]

@@tasosdiaforetico7377 We don't know that... what if deep down inside he's good and UwU?

[@grantp4022]

Your right on the money, parents have to take a stand, and let their kids know who's the boss. If they don't, this kind of thing and other bad things will happen.

[@urdnal]

Pretty sure "juggalo murder" is not the kind of expected result for letting your kids get a little out of hand.

[@cassandrareedy7369]

I think if kids get as much freedom as they are capable (not more or less) they learn how to be a good boss of their own. Too little: rebellion... Too much: Tyranny. Inconsistency: both.

[@Autistic_Pelican_Fucker420]

You're*****🤨🤦🏻‍♀️

[@michealolsen1299]

Excellent video, well done. Dr. Grande would you please consider doing an analysis of Anthony Michael the "Medical Medium". Thanks, you rock.

[@DoctorDoom69]

i think dr grande would do great also analyzing fictional characters too from movies etc

[@aprilstar3572]

When my daughter was going through a similar stage of rebellion at around 16 with colored hair , dark cloths etc… I immediately took action . I found her in her room with candles ,a make shift shrine of some sort a metal crooked finger on it etc… The first thing I did was at that moment ! was to make her put the items outside the house , in the yard , I informed her that we would be taking them to the dump the next day and we did . I stood my ground with her and told her if she ever brought anything like that in my house again she would be leaving my house forever period . I’m a loving mom but you’ve gotta stand your ground firmly with these kids ! If you truly 💕 them you will ! Now she is 22 and works at a bank , I’m very proud of her we pray together but not to the devil but to god !