Did Jesus Condemn Homosexuality?

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Brian Holdsworth

Brian Holdsworth

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@carissstewart3211
@carissstewart3211 2 жыл бұрын
Rather than asking in what way Jesus was influenced by 1st century Jewish society and its values, it is probably more helpful to ask in what ways am I unduly influenced by 21st century American society and its values. In order to attain holiness I need to conform to Christ, not the other way around.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@ripbeni6198
@ripbeni6198 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianHoldsworth back then the Pope woulda strung this guy up, now he hobnobs with him. So sick.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus was not influenced by 1st century Jewish society, he was invented by 1st century Jewish society.
@harvestingnow1571
@harvestingnow1571 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkelly2162 So you don’t believe in Jesus, especially as LORD & SAVIOR OF THE 🌍. OK. So maybe you can at least try this one thing then. No harm no foul as they say right? Ask Jesus if he’s Your Lord and Savior to jist give you one sure sign Maybe it’s something you can say you’ll pay attention to for one month even. Maybe it could be something as simple as someone approaching u in this month about your belief in the afterlife. Maybe they mention Jesus directly to you. Maybe if you experienced this and actually connected the dots a whole new world would be open to you. One in which you could find salvation. Try it please. 🙋🏻‍♀️🙏
@MrCheesywaffles
@MrCheesywaffles 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkelly2162 You seem very sure of that, are you seriously claiming that or are you just making a quip? Keep in mind a lot of people died in agony when denying the ressurected Jesus would have spared them and others.
@Jay-Drizzy
@Jay-Drizzy 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has same-sex attractions and is endeavoring to hold fast to Church teachings, thank you for saying this for myself and others to hear again. Unfortunately, people like Father Martin often build a bridge too far in trying to alleviate the existential fear that living a chaste life will result in us dying alone. Cases like that cause them to become enablers of grave sins instead of men like Father Mike Schmitz that we really need.
@lifewasgiventous1614
@lifewasgiventous1614 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask you how you go about squaring this logically? You feel attracted to the Same sex...and most would find this to contradict God, however you fall on the other side of the fence and feel it your duty to abstain regardless of your desire.. how and why?
@stray_dog3960
@stray_dog3960 2 жыл бұрын
He is just apart of a masonic club, he ain’t trying to bridge anything. He just needs to sow devision.
@stray_dog3960
@stray_dog3960 2 жыл бұрын
@@lifewasgiventous1614 it’s easy, the soul is more important than the body. In other words he cares about the state of his own soul and what will happen after life than he does about temporary pleasure. It leads to a more fulfilled life to be honest, I may not be gay but I know what it is like to go against your earthy desires.
@fr.hughmackenzie5900
@fr.hughmackenzie5900 2 жыл бұрын
@@stray_dog3960 and we are all wounded by Original Sin. No longer can we say that 'what comes naturally' is truly natural.
@Westyrulz
@Westyrulz 2 жыл бұрын
You are an inspiration for all who are fighting the good fight!
@FatherJMarcelPortelli
@FatherJMarcelPortelli 2 жыл бұрын
"Woe to those who call good evil, and evil good." (Isaiah 5:20)
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 2 жыл бұрын
Pray for John 8:44
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
I would say Catholic teaching calls something bad good. God himself says for man to be alone was not good, yet that is the churches teaching.
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
@Timothy True, I prefer to use my own brain, and not just accept what others tell me I must think.
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
@Timothy It's not my first choice, but I do appreciate the poetic and classic sound.
@nategraham6946
@nategraham6946 2 жыл бұрын
@Timothy I personally prefer CSB, it was my first Bible after I got baptized, so it grew on me. I also found it to be closer to the original Greek, I still need more work in Hebrew though.
@Dylbr00
@Dylbr00 2 жыл бұрын
If we based our theology on what Jesus didn’t say, we could have an infinite number of sacraments
@stephrichards4611
@stephrichards4611 2 жыл бұрын
Scripture is deliberately silent at times
@tyh3120
@tyh3120 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephrichards4611 The Christ « Moses and the Prophets talked about me.... »
@paisanoarbr
@paisanoarbr 2 жыл бұрын
not true tho, He perfectly synthetized the Law in 2 commandments, which He repeats time and time again. Now, if you think that's not good enough, that's kinda of a you problem. Jesus never spoke a single word about homossexuality like Paul did, and BTW, there's a lot of debate whether the greek word MALAKOI really means gay in the context it was written, becase it's NEVER used to decribe homossexuals in ANY other ancient greek documents
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 2 жыл бұрын
@@paisanoarbr Homosexuality is not seen as identitarian in religion, that is a modern evil, it is seen as a disruptive transgressive act, which offends God and religion, whereas the rigid identitarian imposition is a trap. Much of generic concretization is an unsophisticated trap. Religion offers the choice to say no to spoilt identities. Homosexual impulses have a positive and negative origins. What sex positive marketing refuses to allow discussed is sexual disgust can be 1) be eroticised (paradoxical response,) 2) a trauma avoidance response. Repetition compulsion. 3) fear also has a part to.play in avoidance, 4) as does human contrariness in the face of a tabu, the wormy apple.
@Outrider74
@Outrider74 2 жыл бұрын
Your asserions are absolutely false, both biblically abd historically. If you’re going to defend perversion, be intellectually honest enough to quit calling yourself a Christian.
@whiterose7055
@whiterose7055 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus also said that He had not come to change even an iota of the law, but to amplify it.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so we can murder rude kiddies and all who have sex out of marriage then (lev 20;9-10)???????
@annemariemcgowan9273
@annemariemcgowan9273 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you can't deny that he had concerns about some teachings of Moses x Hence, he was crucified for being misunderstood. X
@AluminiumT6
@AluminiumT6 Жыл бұрын
@@annemariemcgowan9273 "Concerns" ??? Jesus is God, and Moses is a prophet of God. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, and so it stands.
@krisgangwer3796
@krisgangwer3796 10 ай бұрын
@@annemariemcgowan9273 God gave Moses the law. Jesus fulfilled it; he nailed the curse of the law to the tree with him. The law never justifies anybody; it condemns. Christ took upon himself our condemnation that we might be reconciled to God. Christ had concerns about those who distorted the law, not the law itself.
@GaryGuill-qc6wn
@GaryGuill-qc6wn 8 ай бұрын
How could a jew keep the law? If they performed a circumcision on the eighth day being a sabbath? Jesus told them Moses gave you the law and none of you keep it! The law was given that all might become guilty before God! Why? So they would see that they need a savior
@standingathwart
@standingathwart 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. And as Scott Hahn has pointed out, we give that "one flesh" a name nine months after he or she has been conceived.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so any who can't conceive are doomed?
@mariaamaka
@mariaamaka 5 ай бұрын
Lol So everytime a couple meets it will lead to procreation That’s bizarre 🤣 That analogy is weak Cos procreation isn’t d purpose of sex It’s intimacy. Even God didn’t create every scenario to lead to a baby A variety of factors come into play It’s those factors we are smart enough to use today for family planning But in EVERY SCENARIO sex is meant to build INTIMACY Infact that’s d EVIDENCE of misuse or abuse of sex WHEN ITS NOT USED TO BUILD INTIMACY like wen it’s all about INSTANT GRATIFICATION Or a partner uses d other persons body to get off 🤦🏽‍♀️ That’s what the brothers did as narrated by Jesus in Mathew 19:8-9 Having sex that doesn’t lead to procreation is not a testament to the “unholiness” of a sexual act (Oral and other forms of sex don’t lead to procreation) That’s a ridiculous perception shared by old scholars who perceived family planning to be sinful Their interpretation was the ACT OF WITHDRAWAL ITSELF was the SIN 🤦🏽‍♀️ What makes anything a sin IS THE INTENTION the brothers withdrew out of wickedness of heart Wanting to reserve her as a sex tool not a legitimate wife cos the culture didn’t recognise any woman who had not bore a child as a man’s legitimate wife THATS WHAT MASE GID STRIKE THEM DEAD NOT THE SIMPLE ACT OF PULLING OUT BUT THE REASON BEHIND That’s why it’s only God who can truly judge a man Cos only God sees the heart of a man 💁🏽‍♀️
@loganw1232
@loganw1232 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus said Marriage is a Man and a Woman coming together and the two becoming one flesh. Also Jesus said he has not come to abolish the Law but to fulfillment it.
@quint2857
@quint2857 2 жыл бұрын
Im sure Jesus would support gays as well.
@joan8862
@joan8862 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 Jesus would dine with them, and just by His mere presence, many would be converted to Him and leave their sinful lifestyles.
@ElCid48
@ElCid48 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 Jesus loves the sinner like he loves us all but he HATES the sin.
@m_d1905
@m_d1905 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 Yes Jesus would eat with the sinners, but he would also tell them to go and sin no more. Like the Samaritan woman at the well.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
REALLY so we can still murder rude kiddies and kill all who have sex out of marriage as the old law says.....(lev 20;9-10) ....why did Jesus bother to die for us if he fulfilled nothing? Jesus is also God btw and God said marriage was also 1 man and many wives in the OT...did God lie?
@lorenzolozzigallo2589
@lorenzolozzigallo2589 2 жыл бұрын
As a former SSA-infected person - healed through Jesus - I am grateful for your clear words. Validating sin is NOT an act of love, it is only a way to gain popularity among the weak-minded. It is a worldly act which damages the victims, often beyond repair.
@joer9156
@joer9156 2 жыл бұрын
What is SSA? Satanic Sexual Abuse?
@Jojo_Flake
@Jojo_Flake 2 жыл бұрын
What does SSA mean?
@artjimenez6530
@artjimenez6530 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jojo_Flake same sex attraction
@Jojo_Flake
@Jojo_Flake 2 жыл бұрын
@@artjimenez6530 oh thanks for the explanation! I was completely clueless ,
@artjimenez6530
@artjimenez6530 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jojo_Flake It's alright,was clueless myself. And still learning.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider when debating supporters of same-sex couplings/marriage within the church is the fact that they would say that Christ said x because he was a man of his time is blasphemy on it's face and we shouldn't be afriad to accuse them of it when they do so. To suggest that something Christ said is in any regard wrong or only true in that time suggests imperfection on the part of God who is perfect by his divine nature. If someone says something that contradicts Christ, they are contradicting God because Christ is the Second person of Trinity which means he is God and God cannot err, and if you contradict God you are wrong period. And if any man says he knows more than God he is either insane or a liar and should be treated in the way which you would treat either one of those.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus never hd aan issue with love, assume u do?
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri sodomy isn't love. Anything done in sin is without love.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri so what sort of devil worshipping cult do you lead?
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri you shouldn't have shown up here. I know what I'll be doing with my trolling apparatus this weekend. I don't need to make nasty comments when I can troll your notifications.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Yes you fear me and Gods word don't you. And I don't blame you...I would be if I had been as fooled from stans homophobia as you are......as a satanist you even use his wording...trolls.....now everyone here can see you side with satan!
@thetraditionalthomist
@thetraditionalthomist 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video Mr. Holdsworth! Thank you!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how so
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri believe it or not there are people who appreciate hearing the truth rather than the lies you tell yourself and others.
@humphreyobanor866
@humphreyobanor866 2 жыл бұрын
It's shocking how many lay faithful know Scripture and Church teaching more than a Father Martin, who is a priest.
@ElCid48
@ElCid48 2 жыл бұрын
he is not a priest or a Christian but a stooge of the modern world who cannot seem satan in the details and his false teachings. He is a idiot. a sad idiot who is going down that road to hell and than when he dies wonders who he got there.
@humphreyobanor866
@humphreyobanor866 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElCid48 He needs our constant prayers. By the grace of God erroneous leaders will come back to the true teachings of God.
@lorenzolozzigallo2589
@lorenzolozzigallo2589 2 жыл бұрын
He knows them… He just craves popularity and power more than the cross. May the Lord have mercy of him!
@laurenfluder537
@laurenfluder537 2 жыл бұрын
There are tons of bad priests out there, it's not shocking... It's just sad because Fr. James continues to be given an audience and promoted by the church and bishops.
@dianedeck
@dianedeck 2 жыл бұрын
There are many leaders of the Church who choose to follow the trends at the times they are more concerned about their worldly life. I would attest that they are not actually believers but puppets.
@geneparadiso6258
@geneparadiso6258 2 жыл бұрын
Of course He did. As part of the Godhead, the Second Person of the Trinity, He was present at the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.
@OUTBOUND184
@OUTBOUND184 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@sueco_r
@sueco_r 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is something that I've been thinking about recently
@Fiona2254
@Fiona2254 2 жыл бұрын
@@sueco_r because it looks like we are living there 😢
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 2 жыл бұрын
John 8:58, the Lamb of GOD.
@bradicas5359
@bradicas5359 2 жыл бұрын
That story also is a warning about using the stranger for your own good.
@michielvanasten3021
@michielvanasten3021 2 жыл бұрын
‘Before Abraham I am’ He said. He was there at Sodom and Gomorrah. We know wat happened there and why. Something to do with sodomy?
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 2 жыл бұрын
John 8:12-"58" "Before Abraham was born, I AM" Beware of Matthew 6:2, 7:21-23, 10:15, 18:6 & Luke 6:46-49
@paisanoarbr
@paisanoarbr 2 жыл бұрын
cool then, let's repeat everything the jews did and believe in. Oh wait...
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
nothing to do with sodomy, but not helping the poor n needy (ezek 16;49) or did God lie?
@michielvanasten3021
@michielvanasten3021 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri what is the meaning of sodomy? If follow you correctly, if I am greedy and I don’t want to help the poor, does that make me a sodomite?
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@LifeWithFlowers
@LifeWithFlowers 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job Brian. Thank you for all you do.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
why when its not so?
@bennylane9701
@bennylane9701 Жыл бұрын
Yea, Brian. We owe you so much. You and the Pied Piper.
@keefedaly3391
@keefedaly3391 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! You concisely and logically show how Fr. Martin's "bridge" has no foundation in the Truth of Jesus Christ. "Have you not read..." indeed. Its hard to believe a Catholic priest who speaks as Fr. Martin does can be taken seriously. Scripture has commandments, not suggestions, and they bring REAL freedom.
@frankmcgowan9457
@frankmcgowan9457 2 жыл бұрын
Many of us regard Fr. James Martin as less of a priest and more of a joke. More of an inappropriate, dirty joke, actually... He and other currently publicly "popular" Jesuits have convinced some of us to regard Jesuits poorly as the default which individuals can overcome. It is a very sad thing for me as the first priest I knew personally as our parish pastor was a Jesuit. My whole family loved him and he was a frequent dinner guest in our home. I don't think he a James Martin would agree on much of anything.
@laurenfluder537
@laurenfluder537 2 жыл бұрын
What's shocking is that the church continues to give him such an audience. His voice is magnified when it should be quieted. He's not helping the church and it's scary to think of the damage he is doing to souls.
@donitaforrest9064
@donitaforrest9064 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurenfluder537 Unless, he's like a fisherman with a shiny lure...... all rainbow colours flashing in the sunshine of a pleasant pool, then suddenly "hooking them and reeling them in" to the true heart of Jesus. This may be a way to fish for men & lead them to truth. Perhaps it's his methods & intentions which are tolerated by Mother Church.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
But Brian doesn't more so.....why use a verse on divorce to support marriage?
@discord_and_entropy
@discord_and_entropy Жыл бұрын
As someone who engages in homosexuality, I am glad that this is up on KZbin, that we have some freedom of speech, and I respect your opinion. Thank you for sharing.
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@MM22272
@MM22272 2 жыл бұрын
Father Martin's rhetorical style reminds me of Original Temptation to Eve: Now the serpent ... said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” Father Martin undermines morality by instantiating doubt about morality by seemingly conflating obsolete dietary or ritual laws with eternal moral laws in order to undermine them by juxtaposing what appears to be ridiculous with what is licit and moral. In other words, it's a nuanced straw-man argument. Exaggerate the truth of morality by adding to it what we know to be untenable. Then attack this exaggeration and seem to win. Brian sees right through this and so do many at least subconsciously.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
maybe thats why so many follow the sin filled homophobic lifestyle?
@SamanthaJMP
@SamanthaJMP 7 ай бұрын
Sincere question here- if you believe the Bible explicitly condemns homosexuality and that only men and women can be married together, what about individuals who are born intersexed, with both male and female genitalia? Also, what about the genetic condition in which an individual looks female, normally extra feminine, but in adulthood, finds out they are genetically male? Those things do occur. I’m struggling with what parts of the Bible are literal and what are metaphors. Also, gay marriage would be illegal back then. All sex outside of marriage is a sin. So is it possible that the sinful part of homosexuality is simply the act of fornication? And also, the Bible EXPLICITLY states unnatural relationships are sinful. Given that people are attracted to the same sex by their own nature (how the brain is wired), would that mean ALL relationships are sinful for them? Seems harsh TBH. Nobody wants to speak seriously about this.
@karlyn132
@karlyn132 2 ай бұрын
Because they wanna condemn. These mfs are just evil demons who try to speak softly to make u think they are in good faith.
@jonathanhansen1222
@jonathanhansen1222 2 жыл бұрын
Amen, and thank you for bringing this truthful message, Brian! We cannot allow ourselves to be conformed to the pattern of this world, but must be constantly transformed by the renewing of our minds, being knowledgeable of His Word, striving to accept & understand it, not trying to mold it so that it mimics whatever modern-day social issue seems to be popular at the time. Too many times will others attempt to justify sin based on what Jesus *didn't* say. That is the fallacy of arguing from silence, and we must be very careful not to engage in that, as Christians.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
but homophobia is of the world and u seem ok with that?
@jonathanhansen1222
@jonathanhansen1222 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri What is "homophobia"?
@bakkudeku
@bakkudeku Жыл бұрын
O Lord, have mercy on me. O Lord, protect me. O Lord, have mercy on me and on all those impious people who take the holy scriptures to distort and deturpate your message and use them as a weapon to legitimise hating on their fellow neighbour. O Lord, I humbly implore, have mercy on those people, for they can't know just how mistaken they are, how wrong-headed they are, in hating others. Enlighten them with your light of divine truth, for they don't know any better than to judge and hate and condemn others, as they view themselves your annointed paladins of divine justice. Forgive their arrogance and pride and vanity and hatred and murderous wrath, for they know not any better. Amen.
@bennylane9701
@bennylane9701 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure we Homosexuals are outnumbered by you christians, making you the 'pattern of this world' and the one who conforms to wickedness. God chose the things of this world that you consider foolish to shame you and the things you consider wise and therefore your wisdom. Or did you skip that part of the NT?
@bennylane9701
@bennylane9701 Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathanhansen1222What is "faith"?
@matthewmcdaid7962
@matthewmcdaid7962 3 ай бұрын
And Jesus denies the idea that you can "pray away" homosexuality. Remember that line about your inability to alter the color of a single hair? Yeah, he said that. We're talking genetically determined attributes that cannot be changed.
@kzbaby2002
@kzbaby2002 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus’s teachings are for all times. Praise God. 🙏🏻
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
and he was anti homophobia.
@kzbaby2002
@kzbaby2002 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri It’s not homophobia to recognize homosexual behavior is a sin.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@kzbaby2002 That is exactly what homophobia means! That's like saying "Its not racist to know black behaviour is a sin"
@kzbaby2002
@kzbaby2002 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Let me ask you, do you think any other behaviors are sin? Which and why?
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@kzbaby2002 Homophobic behaviour like racist and sexist behaviour is aa sin, assume u disagree? Because it hurts people and encourages lies and some use Gods word as a weapon to support it which is offensive to God. Did you not know?
@EllenJohn4
@EllenJohn4 2 жыл бұрын
Great, succinct video, Brian!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is the sin of homophobia great?
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri homophobia is not a sin. Sodomy and lying which you do on a regular basis are sins.
@tadstilwell6127
@tadstilwell6127 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said, sir!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
badly said sir
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri you're just jealous because he's a real man and you're not.
@ufoundwaldo5995
@ufoundwaldo5995 2 жыл бұрын
James Martin is a dangerous man. A wolf in sheep’s clothing. Before he went down this rabbit hole he wrote a great book “my life with the saints”. Worth checking out. Pray for James Martin.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
all homophobics are wolves in sheeps clothing!
@jameydunne3920
@jameydunne3920 Жыл бұрын
For fear of appearing naive, who is James Altman and what is his dangerous path?
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
here is another book If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@blitzzkrieg1400
@blitzzkrieg1400 2 жыл бұрын
Keep your good work going, Brian!!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is telling lies good thing?
@afterlate8866
@afterlate8866 2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Thank you.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how so?
@ludovicoc7046
@ludovicoc7046 2 жыл бұрын
Martin's book, website is just apologia for his own homosexuality.
@josephtravers777
@josephtravers777 2 жыл бұрын
Martin, justification.......sounds familiar
@escabrosa1
@escabrosa1 2 жыл бұрын
Which appears to be prevalent amongst Jesuit priests. After hearing what their Superior General said about the devil, I have to wonder what they're being taught. And they are so proud of their extensive education.
@delvaassante5699
@delvaassante5699 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@blitzzkrieg1400
@blitzzkrieg1400 2 жыл бұрын
Who knows? He might be a secret homosexual himself
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 2 жыл бұрын
@@blitzzkrieg1400 It's all about working as a team, lots of equity for the team members if Sodom is anything to go by.
@ifyo7253
@ifyo7253 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is the sin of homophobia good?
@Maria_Miciano_5
@Maria_Miciano_5 2 жыл бұрын
I just had a thought. Jesus is the protagonist in everyone’s story whether people like it or not. Jesus knows what is right and that is the truth. He can only speak facts.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
and he never condemned LGBT folk is a fact
@kimlevesque6103
@kimlevesque6103 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your courageous rebuttals to counterfeiters.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
even though they are wrong?
@kimlevesque6103
@kimlevesque6103 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri to understand your question...who are the "they"?
@American_Orthodox
@American_Orthodox Жыл бұрын
@@kimlevesque6103if you have to ask that you haven’t been paying attention
@maryknight8786
@maryknight8786 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian. It’s so important to hear the TRUTH. Father Martin is leading people in the wrong direction. 😞
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Homophobics don't tell truths
@onvogmasaj
@onvogmasaj Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbrihomophobes* and yes we do.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@onvogmasaj No you don't, you feed on lies. Lies are your food and drink Old bean.
@onvogmasaj
@onvogmasaj Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri ok “pastor”
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@onvogmasaj Glad you agree "christian"!
@volusian95
@volusian95 2 жыл бұрын
What these individuals don't realize is that homosexuality was basically unheard of in the culture of the time/place Jesus preached in, and therefore not in any need of condemnation. Hence Paul's expressing his shock about how the Romans 'exchanged truth for a lie'.
@loulasher
@loulasher 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if that's true. I think the Macabees were fighting, in part, the hellenized culture around them which included that.
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 2 жыл бұрын
There has always been homosexuality.
@paisanoarbr
@paisanoarbr 2 жыл бұрын
lmfao are you trying to say that Jesus was ignorant and didn't know about everything? Is He a messenger of the I a.d. century jews or was He the messenger for the entire world?
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkelly2162 As a verb yes but only as a noun since just before the 20th century. Taking on an identity of sin is a foolish act of self betrayal. Fetishized transgression is as old as Eden. Hebephiliac exploitation is as old as time, possibly.
@Bytheirfruitsshall
@Bytheirfruitsshall 2 жыл бұрын
@@paisanoarbr Lots of straw men cluttering up the threads today. Jesus condemned transgressive disruptive serial behaviours. St Paul was preaching in areas where transgressive goddess sex/death temples demanding inverted sacrifices were the norm. Bigger picture and historical research.
@Monaghan3000
@Monaghan3000 2 жыл бұрын
He ratified the moral injunctions of the law. Furthermore, His apostles condemned it explicitly.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
and yet didn't
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri "Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." [Matthew 5:17] quit lying sodomy is still a sin.
@Monaghan3000
@Monaghan3000 Жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Have you no fear of God? You must know this life is but a moment. What will you do when you stand in the judgment? Who will you make appeals to for help? Now, right now, is the time to die to your desires and ideas... to be conformed to Christ... and put away such wicked foolishness.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent session. I’m Catholic and I am repulsed by clergy that lead the faithful astray. May the Triune God save his people.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
well as a catholic you will be ok with adding to Gods word too.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri God made his feelings toward sodomy pretty clear when he wiped out Sodom and Gomorrah.
@nathanhileman3848
@nathanhileman3848 Жыл бұрын
Brian, you are incorrect. Paul has authority to proclaim God's word directly from Jesus Christ, given to Paul on the road to Damascus. 1 Corinthians 6:9: 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality," God doesn't hate homosexuals, but homosexuality. It is a sin, period. Other sexual sins include heterosexual sex outside of marriage and lusting after someone of the opposite sex.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@nathanhileman3848 Sorry but you are incorrect, yes, Paul does Paul has authority to proclaim God's word directly from Jesus Christ, given to Paul on the road to Damascus. But Paul never once addressed LGBT issues, you just hope he did. I see u used a modern bible to help your sin.....As only modern bibles slyly add in lines like homosexual or men who practice homosexuality, words Paul did not say, we know this is a lie because the word homosexual did not exist in Pauls day, as a word it did not exist till 1869.....why are u ok with this lie and a lie in Jesus name which is worse.....God doesn't hate you homophobics, but practicing the homophobic lifestyle is wrong and sinful. It is a sin, period. Other bigoted sins include racism or sexism also....Note Jesus only mentioned heterosexual lust outside of marriage and lusting after someone of the opposite sex.....clearly he has more of aan issue with heterosexuaality than LGBT issues! Think on that old bean.
@bakkudeku
@bakkudeku Жыл бұрын
O Lord, have mercy on me. O Lord, protect me. O Lord, have mercy on me and on all those impious people who take the holy scriptures to distort and deturpate your message and use them as a weapon to legitimise hating on their fellow neighbour. O Lord, I humbly implore, have mercy on those people, for they can't know just how mistaken they are, how wrong-headed they are, in hating others. Enlighten them with your light of divine truth, for they don't know any better than to judge and hate and condemn others, as they view themselves your annointed paladins of divine justice. Forgive their arrogance and pride and vanity and hatred and murderous wrath, for they know not any better. Amen.
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I don't get is why none, absolutely nada, of these homosexual priests and bishops have the courage of their convictions and just admit what they really believe and resign.
@myleshagar9722
@myleshagar9722 2 жыл бұрын
Because outside of the church, they have no skills or special status.
@michaellefort6128
@michaellefort6128 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, truthfully confess that they are, "practicing," homosexuals. That said, Sodomy is condemned in the Old Testament. The male/male and female/female.
@ElCid48
@ElCid48 2 жыл бұрын
or the guts and desire not to encourage this sin or remove it from their lives. and they will be the first to cry a storm when they are denied heaven and sent to hell for leading other souls there as well as theirs. enjoy your lust now. here is hoping you do not get colon cancer or any other problem there. I heard a story about a baby boy who was abandon in a muslim camp and a young missionary came around this little soul. his butt was so abuse and torn that in order to save this little one, he needed a operation. damn those who cause this to happen and damn you all who encourage this evil agenda on our children. you will pay. karma will get you and it will be hard
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
because they are not all LGBT obviously old bean, but people who won't follow the homophobic lifestyle choice you do.
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri brush up on your scripture maybe? and I am not "phobic", but I am afraid for their salvation. and my own.
@threearrows2248
@threearrows2248 Жыл бұрын
So well said, especially at the end. Thank you!
@PockASqueeno
@PockASqueeno 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, and I agree with your conclusion, but it isn’t what I was expecting. What I was expecting was for you to cite Romans 1:26-27, which refers to homosexual relationships as “dishonorable passions.” Maybe Jesus didn’t directly state “homosexuality is a sin” during His 30-ish years as a man, but He communicates through others such as Paul, Moses, etc. There’s a reason that the Bible is more than just the four gospels.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 2 жыл бұрын
🤺☦️🇷🇺Jesus said He came to fulfil the old testament and not change it, and that not even one letter of the word of God can be changed ever, and so the new testament never changed and contradicted the old one, only expended it in different forms and manifestations for the gentiles who were not confined by God to the specific laws that Jews were obliged to keep, but THOSE basic tenants, of marriage, sexual conduct etc. are foundational for ALL mankind, since the time of Adam to Noah's sons, and anyone who doesn't understand those simple basic foundations can never call himself a Christian. Even the heretic Protestants understand that, and that says a lot🤦‍♂️
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
NO IT DOES NOT! Read the whole chapter, this is paul condemning heterosexuals doing same sex acts in idolotry cults.
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy
@EasternRomeOrthodoxy 2 жыл бұрын
*God the Father communicates it through Moses etc., not the Son - He does it through the apostles
@mariaamaka
@mariaamaka 5 ай бұрын
@@pastorbri Paul was condemning LUST Pls don’t set a double standard for heterosexual couples His point was LUST &lust is lust across d aisle, my brother
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 5 ай бұрын
@@mariaamaka Yes lust from heterosexuals doing same sex acts in their idolotry cults, thats what it says in the text.....please read a bible....
@jackieann5494
@jackieann5494 2 жыл бұрын
I literally thank God for Brian . His wisdom is clarifying and edifying and encouraging . I'm so grateful ....
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
I thank God for Jesus not a man
@jackieann5494
@jackieann5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Straining at gnats . I thank God for Jesus AND for the people He puts in my life , through which He ministers to me . He ministers to me in many ways , and my brothers and sisters in Christ are among those ways . But keep one- upping people . Apparently your ways is 'best' . Ring bells as you pray and give alms , too ?
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackieann5494 Gods way is best. Not yours.
@jackieann5494
@jackieann5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri And you , too .
@pastorbri
@pastorbri Жыл бұрын
@@jackieann5494 My way is Gods way, yours is mans, I mean look how you ignore 1 tim 2;8-14!!! Shame on you!
@joan8862
@joan8862 2 жыл бұрын
Awesomely spoken. Thank you, Brian.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
But he is wrong
@lilac624
@lilac624 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand why religions making gender an issue when temperament and character are more important about a person not gender itself...
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
knowledge If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@theprussian4616
@theprussian4616 9 ай бұрын
Here's this up front, read through the whole thing, I'm wanting a genuine response at the end, please. Doesn't the old testament say that if a man Rapes a woman that he must marry her and then pay the father off? Quite the set of rules. I'm bisexual. I've had male and female partners. I'm also a conservative, i was baptized as a Christian. Then I read the old testament, god comes off as a child throwing tantrums to get his way, and it baffled me that my all loving God would do such horrid things. I lost my faith and found a new one in Hellenism and philosophy. Lately I've been struggling with it and wanted to believe in God again, so i started looking at videos to help me. Its videos like these that push me further away. Why would our all loving God make ME this way then SHUN ME? Why would he love me but hate me? Why make me this way if i'm apparently damned from the start? Why would a God that loves me force these feelings onto me and then tell me i'm wrong? Explain that to me please, help me see the light here, clear up the confusion, and the doubt.
@02saurus
@02saurus 6 ай бұрын
Hello Theprusian, I read your message and I would like to reply. Sorry my English is not perfect, I am from the Netherlands. I am also bisexual and I recognized myself in your situation. I know how difficult the struggle with faith and sexuality is. Not many people can empathize with homosexuals, and they make wrong comments. I read a lot of hate comments on messages posted by gay Christians. It's almost impossible to save LGBTIs if you make wrong comments. It seems that many straight Christians hate gay Christians, and for that reason make wrong comments, they have no battle with sexuality in their lives and have no compassion. Some homosexuals will probably leave the Christian life after reading these negative comments. Don't make your choice based on homophobic comments. These people who post homophobic comments cannot empathize with the struggle that homosexuals have. It's not easy, but reject the frustrations of these negative comments. Ignore these negative comments, and do not pay attention to these messages. Forgive these people who post these messages, and reject hatred if you are Christian. Love your enemies is what God asks of us. (Matthew 5:44 & Matthew 6:14) Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself, think about why you post texts. (Matthew 22:39 & 1 John 3:15) Theprusian, I also sometimes feel frustrated when it comes to my sexuality and faith. I see so many gay christians struggling with their sexuality, It makes me sad. It is important to know that time is short because the return of Jesus Christ is very soon. It is also important to make the right choice and set priorities. There are people who have doubts. Is sex before marriage a sin, is homosexuality a sin? They have these questions because they do not believe the scriptures and interpret them differently. It is understandable, there are homoseksuals who find it difficult to give up their gay lifestyle. People are so beautiful and perfect made by God, It is understandable that you can find people of your own gender beautiful and fall in love. You will have to fight when you get thoughts that become between you and God. (James 4:7) If you decide to fight, it is important to know that the battle takes place in the mind. Your lustful thoughts, thoughts in the flesh can stand between God and you. I want you to know that after the fall into sin, humanity has entered mortal flesh. It is important to know, there are no struggles in heaven, we no longer struggle in the flesh. Because, we receive a new glorified body, we no longer live in the flesh in heaven. We no longer have a body of flesh and blood. ‭ (1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:44‬ - ‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:50 - 2 Corinthians 5:1-6 KJV‬) It is important to make the right choice be saved. It is a choice between eternal life and death. Be willing to give up your life to receive eternal life. (Lucas 9:23-24) We are not destined for this earthly life, this world is a temporary residence for humanity. It is important to be ready on time for the second coming of Jesus Christ, there is not much time left, Jesus' second coming is very close. Stay strong, believe in yourself! Jesus return is near Love you 🩷 ✝️ 🙏
@Polones12
@Polones12 2 жыл бұрын
When I listen to fr James I'm turning into Hank Hill: that boy ain't right, I tell you what.
@Mauser_.
@Mauser_. 8 ай бұрын
You are simply the best. Thank you.
@HealthCoachHayley
@HealthCoachHayley 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the pulpit is pounded about this is bc it’s a sin being normalized as acceptable. Those who follow Jesus are following God. We don’t require Jesus to restate every single rule or law and the NT is not a transcript of every single thing he ever said, they are segments preserved.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
do u miss it when homophobia was normalised, even though it was a sin?
@humboldthammer
@humboldthammer 5 ай бұрын
How many in the churches have had more than one spouse? According to Jesus, they are all adulterers and have made others adulterers, too. Even looking upon a woman with lust, is adultery in your heart. What's the Old Testament penalty for adultery? What did Jesus say about False Prophets? Matthew 24: 24. What did Jesus teach about that Temple in Jerusalem? Was Trump CHOSEN BY GOD to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem? "Oh shut up! Silly woman." said the reptile Donald with a grin. "You KNEW damn well I was a Snake, BEFORE you took me in. I'm going to bite you right on the pussy." So MANY so Horribly taught. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. Final judgement for the devil and dragon (Revelation 12: 12-13) is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@HoldYourBreat4
@HoldYourBreat4 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger question is why Fr Martin’s Bishop hasn’t reprimanded him on his heresy and stopped it
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
its homophobia we need to stop
@douglastankersley4546
@douglastankersley4546 Жыл бұрын
Fr. Martin teaches SIN. While Bishop Strickland is removed.
@jojackson1573
@jojackson1573 2 жыл бұрын
The devil quoted scripture and twisted it.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Thats homophobics for u
@humboldthammer
@humboldthammer 5 ай бұрын
That will be found in Shakespeare -- Merchant of Venice, I believe. It is not in the Bible. Was Trump CHOSEN by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem -- so the Sanhedrin can renew their rituals of smoke and blood for the remission of our sins and finally get rid of Jesus and the cross? 100's of millions deceived by the False Prophets and faith-healers of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Matthew 24: 24. So MANY so Horribly taught. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. Final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Revelation 12: 12-13 -- is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
@gamera5160
@gamera5160 Жыл бұрын
I'm gay and Catholic. I've spent a great deal of time in prayer. I have felt God in my life and I have felt guided to do many things and give up many vices. I found help in reducing my alcohol consumption. I felt God guiding me to a better job where I'm in a better position to serve my community. I have many times been guided away from vice by God... but I never felt as if the love I have for my partner was wrong or evil. I don't feel that the Catholic Church must allow gay marriage, but I just don't think it is in and of itself a sin. That simply has not been my spiritual experience.
@MrTomyxl
@MrTomyxl Жыл бұрын
@__Man_
@__Man_ Жыл бұрын
Repent and never do any homosexual acts. It is condemned numerous times in the Pentateuch, Paul's writings, the Catholic Church, and is included in Jesus's statements on sexual immortality. Repent.
@hemiolaguy
@hemiolaguy Жыл бұрын
@@__Man_ Gosh, I wish I had sexual IMMORTALITY!
@trevorkuun199
@trevorkuun199 Жыл бұрын
Our time in these temporary bodies is very short, we should strive to put off anything that could potentially send us to the wrong eternal destination.
@gamera5160
@gamera5160 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorkuun199 Lots of people work on the Sabbath. Maybe they should be worried. Christians also don't celebrate the Sabbath on the right day. Maybe that's going to be the rule that pushes you over. Maybe Christians should keep Kosher. Maybe Peter was right and Paul was wrong. Or maybe the Sabbath was made for man and not Man for the Sabbath. The laws are for our benefit. Blindly adhering to them regardless of circumstance was something Jesus preached against numerous times.
@JimCvit
@JimCvit 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, He did say it. We just don't hear it or want to hear it. "You are Peter and on this rock I will build my Church." "I give you the keys to in heaven. What you bind will be bound. What you loose will be loosened." "He who hears you, hears me." "He who hates you, hates me and hates the One Who sent me." If the Church says it, God accepts what the Church teaches.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so we know homophobics hate
@alaneduardomorenodurazo6689
@alaneduardomorenodurazo6689 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your work, Brian. It's awesome.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
why when he is wrong
@JacksonD0716
@JacksonD0716 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 so right
@theshipmasterbanished3902
@theshipmasterbanished3902 Жыл бұрын
Im glad I found your channel because you're answering all my questions that i always had. Thank you so much, and keep up the great work . Let's all stay true to our faith until the end.
@Troy-Moses
@Troy-Moses 2 жыл бұрын
"The same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. *Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed."* ~Luke 17
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
God help the homophobics then
@byrnedegrandpre8884
@byrnedegrandpre8884 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Brian. Honest, heartfelt and based in the Truth. Thank you very much.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Homophobics tend to not tell truths.
@MrSottobanco
@MrSottobanco 2 жыл бұрын
It is sad that the Jesuits or the Vatican don't step in.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
yes as satan hates it when we love one another
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@marygr8064
@marygr8064 2 жыл бұрын
You are such a voice of reason and faith. Thank you.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
and yet wrong also
@jimwilson1889
@jimwilson1889 2 жыл бұрын
Great commentary Brian!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is the sin of homophobia great
@Outrider74
@Outrider74 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, Jesus DOES condemn the practice. The Greek word for “fornication” or “sexual immorality” (depending on the translation) is “porneia,” which encompasses any sexual practice between people not married to each other, which would by default include homosexual practice. Jesus uses the word “porneia” in the gospels, meaning He addressed the issue, even if it was not as directly as other sins. I’d also like to point out that, if we’re going to go down the “Jesus didn’t say it” road, that Jesus didn’t specifically address rape or incest either. So according to the logic of Martiin, rape and incest are also okay. And finally, it is also a subtle jab at the authority of St. Paul’s apostolic letters, as the issue is also addressed in Romans 1, I Corinthians 6, and I Timothy 1.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
actually no he doesn't
@owenswabi
@owenswabi 2 ай бұрын
@@pastorbriyou keep saying this but offering no actual rebuttal
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 ай бұрын
@@owenswabi I only have Gods word, what do u have? Satans word?
@owenswabi
@owenswabi 2 ай бұрын
@@pastorbri that’s, again, not a rebuttal. I’m asking for one in good faith, too
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 ай бұрын
@@owenswabi I only have Gods word to back me up, what do you have???? Mans word?
@southbug27
@southbug27 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why people who hate Christianity’s teachings, like James Martin, are Christians or in his case a priest. Why in the world did he decide to become a priest? Why doesn’t he leave the priesthood & the Church instead of staying in a religion that he doesn’t support? This is not just an angry or smart aleck comment; I’ve always wondered this about a wide range of Christianity-hating Christians & truly want to understand them.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
no hate here If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@bryanjones8778
@bryanjones8778 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. By the way, if Fr. Martin wants to dismiss the Old Testament in favor of the New Testament, he might want to see what the New Testament (particularly the letters of St. Paul) has to say on the subject of practicing homosexuality.
@tyh3120
@tyh3120 2 жыл бұрын
The Christ « My father and I are One. » ‘I come to fulfill the Law, not to cancel it. »
@mrswatchwatch
@mrswatchwatch 2 жыл бұрын
Book of Romans is quite clear on the subject.
@IpCrackle
@IpCrackle 2 жыл бұрын
He once made a tweet where he suggested “Paul got it wrong.”
@bryanjones8778
@bryanjones8778 2 жыл бұрын
@@IpCrackle I'm not surprised he would say something like that. But still, what hubris to deny the Word of God in favor of your own personal views. And this coming from a priest. Sad.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Which was nothing......assume ur on about romans 1 where paul condemned heterosexuals he knew doing same sex acts?
@markcline516
@markcline516 3 ай бұрын
Question: Who here has ever met Father Martin? I met him at Fordham when the school hosted an early edit of The Flannery O'Connor documentary. IMO, he is an honest, friendly, generous (to a fault), and faithful man. After the screening, he joined my family for dinner. Trust me when I say my aunts and cousins are old-school, staunch Catholics. He passed with flying colors.
@markcline516
@markcline516 3 ай бұрын
And yes the early Chruch Blessed same-sex unions, read John Boswell
@joecarangi9132
@joecarangi9132 6 ай бұрын
The Pharisees were specifically asking about marriage and divorce. “…and become one flesh” could be a reference to bearing children. He wasn’t asked or speaking about sexuality. Additionally, the vast majority of practicing Jews do not struggle with the idea of “homosexuality being a sin” because they know the Old Testament story of Sodom and Gomorrah was a parable about being inhospitable to guests. It is a strict rule among Jews to always be courteous and welcoming. Everyone ignores the fact that the townspeople (including men AND women) banging on the door demanding to be given the guests to rape were also talking about the wife and the children-Western thought only dwells on the idea that some of the men in that crowd might have been intending to rape the husband alone. Complain about not reading the scripture a little more. lol
@vt5425
@vt5425 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so well explained!!!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how so
@quesostuff1009
@quesostuff1009 5 ай бұрын
I appreciated the emphasis on how a good teacher focuses on the right or correct answer far more than the multitude of wrong ones. I always found the argument of silence to be rather unconvincing
@carlki
@carlki 2 жыл бұрын
Good info Brian. I also like to point out in similar discussions that Jesus didn’t speak of rape, incest, etc. but obviously they are wrong as well.
@carlki
@carlki 2 жыл бұрын
@@destonswan2054 your logic is faulty here. Abortion is not an act between two consenting adults. It is an act between the mother and a non consenting preborn human. The lack of consent is analogous to rape but much more grave as it is an act that terminates an innocent life.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
yes he did.....Jesus gave us 2 laws, one was to love your neighbour as urself, explaine how rape is loving.....
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri ahem "Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." [Matthew 5:17]
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Do u hate Jesus ?????? He said he did not come to destroy the law but fulfill it, so he did not fulfill anything, so we re still under the old covinant? WOW. What a pointless death on the cross Jesus went through for u.....all for nothing......wow. You are so lost.... BTW do u still murder rude kiddies then or kill anyone who has sex out of marriage as the old law says u must then, its in lev 20;9-10.....so how many have you murdered today so far?
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri begone boy rapist.
@thereseschab5042
@thereseschab5042 2 жыл бұрын
Very very eloquent. Thank you
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
You are thankful for the sin of homophobia?
@thereseschab5042
@thereseschab5042 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri I think that God adores anything that is loving. There is a difference between a lifestyle and a relationship. If two people are in love and committed to each other with the help of their higher power....this is beautiful. In my lifetime, what I've seen and still see in the gay male community is 'lifestyle' stuff....sex for the sake of sex I think is for beasts, not people striving to be spiritually evolved and closer to God or whatever you choose to call it. Sex is sacred, and even heterosexuals damage it greatly....It is all messed up, especially now. I'm not homophobic..I love to see my gay friends, and I'm thinking of two couples in specific, who deeply love each other and are close to their 70s now. I think Jesus would love that.
@helenmay2437
@helenmay2437 11 ай бұрын
As a Christian, I have been struggling with this topic for a long time. I felt God directed me to your video to answer my questions. I agree with everything you say. Thank you. 🙏
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
think before agreeing If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@williambullard9599
@williambullard9599 2 жыл бұрын
"Father Martin"????....what a laugh! He sounds like a Reformed Jew...."the Ten Suggestions...."!
@femmina63
@femmina63 2 жыл бұрын
““Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18‬:‭6‬ ‭
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
thats homophobics stuffed then
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri Homophobia is not a sin. Being a sodomite is a sin.
@markpugner9716
@markpugner9716 Жыл бұрын
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Depends on what you mean by homophobia, really.
@hemiolaguy
@hemiolaguy Жыл бұрын
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 For heaven's sake, read your Bible to find out what the sin of Sodom was -- it's very clear in Ezekiel 16:49-50. Not a word about homosexuality.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 Жыл бұрын
@@hemiolaguy Ezekiel, speaking for God, says that Sodom had “pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy” (16:49). In the very next verse though, the Lord says that “they [the inhabitants of Sodom] were haughty and did abominable things before me” (16:50). In context, the prophet is listing Sodom’s sins: pride, excess comforts, ignoring the needs of the poor, haughtiness, and the commission of “abominable things.” Since the writer of Leviticus defines homosexual activity as an “abomination” (Lev. 18:22), we can conclude that the “abominable things” Ezekiel mentions are homosexual acts.
@xtruthx
@xtruthx 11 ай бұрын
“Who’s going to save our Church? It’s not our bishops, it’s not our priests and it is not the religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes and the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that the priests act like priests, your bishops act like bishops, and the religious act like religious.” The laity will save the church
@humboldthammer
@humboldthammer 5 ай бұрын
The ewes in the pews are okay, but the Catholic Church is the same unreformed Whore of Babylon that she was in 1517. DCLXVI = 666 in Roman Numerals. Vicarius Filii Dei adds up to 661, unless U=V, as it does in Old Latin. Then the count is six hundred sixty six. Revelation 13: 18. The Republican CHURCH (not the Party) became the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 3: 9) in 2016, when ALL the Prophets of the NAR proclaimed Trump CHOSEN by God to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. Matthew 24: 24. So MANY so Horribly taught. The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. Final judgement for the devil and dragon (Revelation 12: 12-13) is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
@robertgreen3170
@robertgreen3170 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't Jesus say that He did not come to abolish the "Law" or the Prophets but to fulfill? If Jesus did not come to abolish the law of the old testament, then what is Father Martin's defense of homosexuality? I believe that Jesus also said something about any who change the least little bit of the law or breaks it and teaches this to others will be considered "Least" in the kingdom. Matt 5:17-20
@hemiolaguy
@hemiolaguy Жыл бұрын
So that's why Christians obey all of the Old Testament kosher laws, like not eating pork or shellfish, not sowing 2 kinds of seeds in a field, and not wearing mixed fabric garments. It all makes sense now!
@Eric-LB
@Eric-LB 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you! God Bless 🙏🏻
@gerddonni2017
@gerddonni2017 2 жыл бұрын
BRILLIANT!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is supporting the sin of homophobia brilliant?
@darrellcreech6482
@darrellcreech6482 2 жыл бұрын
Great commentary
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
how is the sin of homophobia great?
@darrellcreech6482
@darrellcreech6482 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri I was talking about fact that you actually hold to the biblical view it is sinful and have not compromised as a lot of people have.
@eagleofthesacredheart3170
@eagleofthesacredheart3170 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri homophobia is not a sin. Sodomy is a sin.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
@@eagleofthesacredheart3170 As homophobia is a lifestyle of hate and bigotry...you think this is good? Do you follow satan? Seems like u do, as for sodomy, most heterosexuals do this and lesbians tend not to so in ur logic lesbians are ok......yes?
@deb9ragorton742
@deb9ragorton742 2 жыл бұрын
What is the story on this James Martin? Why is he allowed to continue spouting things that even I, a compkwyely non eloquent and not educated on.theilogy, am able to listen to a video like this ...and bam the penny drops on.a number of issues in a few minutes. How does an educated PRIEST get it so wrong? I'm genuinely confused, I am not trying to be a smartarse. I don't understand why, if he is so into his beliefs he doesn't just consciosly- uncouple himself from.the catholic church and live as a gay man with his own set of rules? Take his bible down to the beach and reflect on what the pages "tell him" and his partner for the day over a latte, instead of be constantly bothered by what WE all are "forcing" onto him.
@bettytigers
@bettytigers 10 ай бұрын
If two men or two women love each other and want to live together , I suggest they 1st find out what pleases God and then live a holy and private life where they will be able to express that wonderful love how God shows them is appropriate.
@andonedave
@andonedave 2 жыл бұрын
God is the primary author of the Bible. Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible. Jesus is God.
@quint2857
@quint2857 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why the Bible should not be taken literally.
@brianfarley926
@brianfarley926 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 ah because you disagree with it. Well I guess we should listen to you 😂. Really poor logic man go troll somewhere else
@quint2857
@quint2857 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianfarley926 No because it says to kill and be prejudice.
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 the wages of sin is death.
@brianfarley926
@brianfarley926 2 жыл бұрын
@@quint2857 punishments for Jewish society back in antiquity were always going to be more severe than modernity because in those societies for them to thrive they had to agree with one another. We live in a time with technology we’re we don’t have to. Secondly the punishments in Leviticus were for Jewish society thousands of years ago, it was never written for any society outside of that. That doesn’t just mean that society should accept homosexual acts. The Bible flat out says it’s immoral with several other sins. If you can’t deal with it that’s fine, but we don’t have to subscribe to your view either. We’re not under some obligation to allow so called gay marriage in the Church
@PeterJohnJnb
@PeterJohnJnb 5 ай бұрын
I am a Christian who is working through same-sex attraction at the minute and for me the closer was very simple: ALL sex outside of marriage is not allowed. Marriage is between a man and a woman. That doesn't mean we don't have a role in God's kingdom - we do, we have ALL been called and we are able to reach people that some other people may not be able to, because they don't have a point of relating. Which is to say - our life experience gives us a deeper insight into the lives of people who have lived this life differently to others. When we become Christians, we are called to sacrifice our own identities - no matter what those identities are, and assume our new identities in Christ. That's why sacrificing the flesh is so hard! But Jesus Christ offers a life beyond all of this - and if it's your identity to live celibate and in service, then pray about that and take on THAT identity. There is no greater calling than to call others into God's kingdom, you will find more peace, purpose and passion in that then in all other things. 🙂
@apologist1
@apologist1 2 жыл бұрын
Judaism had long rejected it and was not prevalent at the time. Nevertheless, Jesus doubled down on marriage between one man and one woman. In addition, He may have spoken more about it, but so much was not recorded.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
or maybe he spoke more on homophobia and it was not recorded, no wait it was as he has issues with hate and bigotry.
@humboldthammer
@humboldthammer 5 ай бұрын
Yep and even lusting after a woman is adultery in your heart. And if you have sex with more than one person -- not only are you an adulterer, but you have made everyone else who subsequently has sex with those people, adulterers, too. What is the OLD TESTAMENT penalty for adultery? Isn't heterosexual immorality more prevalent in today's churches than homosexual immorality? The Rapture is a LIE. "Left Behind" is ass-backward fiction. Matthew 13: 30. So MANY so horribly taught. 100's of millions deceived by False Prophets. Matthew 24: 24. Final judgement for the devil and dragon -- Revelation 12: 12-13 -- is set for 10/10/26. Daniel 7: 9-14.
@saulgoo2334
@saulgoo2334 Ай бұрын
I struggled with my churches stance on LGBTQ people, and after 5 1/2 months of writing, studying, praying etc. I wrote a 12 page letter to my church called “Repenting the Sin of Exclusion”. I published it on Medium.
@kinnish5267
@kinnish5267 2 жыл бұрын
Father James Martin is an insider traitor to the faith
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
like all homophobics are
@88belfry
@88belfry Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your insights on the faith. Even though I've lived many years I'm still very ignorant, but always glad to learn. I'd like to see you comment on the thoughts of Richard Rohr- Someone my former girlfriend, partner holds up. Please keep up the good work...
@Kitiwake
@Kitiwake 2 жыл бұрын
A chaste life is very liberating. Who says that you must indulge in sex, that you can't control it?
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
truth If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@User6469shreds
@User6469shreds 6 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 7:2 - But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
@deelman3340
@deelman3340 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be too corny if I say you hit that one out of the park?
@yvobalcer
@yvobalcer 2 жыл бұрын
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them." Mathew 5:17 This means Jesus accepted the Old Testament on homosexuality among other sins.
@poetmaggie1
@poetmaggie1 2 жыл бұрын
I trust St. Paul not martin. And why did 🎉Sodom and Gorroma get destroyed
@hemiolaguy
@hemiolaguy Жыл бұрын
The Bible is clear why Sodom got destroyed. See Ezekiel 16: 49-50. Notice: not one word about homosexuality. (By the way, you should learn to spell "Gomorrah.")
@henrique5231
@henrique5231 2 жыл бұрын
It's baffling that a priest would promote something that clearly goes against the 6th commandment. He clearly lost his faith. He wouldn't lead so many souls to condemnation if he believed that he'll have to answer before Our Lord for that. Let us pray and fast for him and many other bad priests.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
so thaats homophobics more so then
@4014Thugsy
@4014Thugsy 6 ай бұрын
Jesus NEVER mentions Homosexuality. (Paul/Saul did in his letters, but never Jesus)
@Nice-ou8ps
@Nice-ou8ps 5 ай бұрын
The bible is God's word. If Paul, a man of God, talks about it and writes it down in the Bible, does that not mean that God himself wanted to have it written down?
@johnperry-nx3gl
@johnperry-nx3gl 5 ай бұрын
First, if you reject Paul, you are basically rejecting Christianity. Second, if as you suggest, the absence of any explicit condemnation by Jesus of a particular act means that that act is morally permissible, then you have just argued that pedophilia is morally permissible. Because the Gospel record does not contain any explicit condemnation of that by Jesus either.
@joewoodard40
@joewoodard40 2 жыл бұрын
"Have you not read...". Excellent
@thomasjorge4734
@thomasjorge4734 2 жыл бұрын
Reading what you want into the Bible, so you can get what you want out of it!
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
thats what homophobics have always done
@Christo-doulou
@Christo-doulou 4 ай бұрын
‘You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination’ Leviticus 18:22 ‘If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them’ Leviticus 20:13 ‘For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error’ Romans 1:26-27 ‘Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor persons who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God’ 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ‘The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, persons who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine’ 1 Timothy. 1:9-10
@taxes.death.christ
@taxes.death.christ 4 ай бұрын
For Lev. 20 : 13 I don't think those who engage in homosexual sex are to actually be put death, perhaps meaning spiritually after they die? But remember the Bible uses this type of language often to illustrate how serious God is about certain things, for example Matt. 5 : 29-30. Also I don't think someone who wears multi-material clothes would be judged on par with those who have homosexual relations..
@josephososkie3029
@josephososkie3029 2 жыл бұрын
A liberal friend of mine has given me a Fr. Martin book each year at Christmas. I leaf through it politely and have to admit he is a good writer which means he uses the figurative….often. That said, I’ve seen him on TV .Ike the old Steven Colbert show and he is quite different, smug and overconfident. There’s a contradiction in how he presents. like a chameleon. And now he’s had two very long sessions with fellow Jesuit, pope Francis. Did you ever get that Spidey sense that something just ain’t right? I do love this KZbin site. ,
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
homophobics are all smug and over confident.
@josephososkie3029
@josephososkie3029 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri so Fr. Martin is homophobic?
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
here is another book If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@day1678
@day1678 2 жыл бұрын
If Jesus did not condemn homosexuality - well, then, why did he destroy Sodom and Gomorrah?
@ask_why000
@ask_why000 2 жыл бұрын
Great question.
@jkellyid
@jkellyid 2 жыл бұрын
The main issue is James Martin engages in sophistry. The way he evangelizes sodomites will not lead to more salvation only more damnation. And he does not engage with truth. He behaves like a recklessly bad protestant pastor. Great rebuttal by the way.
@thewalruswasjason101
@thewalruswasjason101 2 жыл бұрын
There also isn’t a written rule that says batters can’t run out to the mound and beat the pitcher with the bat. Lots of stuff isn’t specified but is understood
@dan69052
@dan69052 4 ай бұрын
understand this ??If you are wondering about the question of whether your sexuality is a sin or not, I welcome you to consider the following thoughts for clarification. Let’s look at some basic fundamental facts based on extensive research & ongoing R&D. During fetal development a verity of biochemical agents are introduced which determine the development of the fetus. Research has shown that major agents such as testosterone & estrogen & a host of others agents determine size, weight, hair color, eye color & sexuality along with a host of other traits. Variations in the amount & timing of the introduction of these agents have a major effect in development. The fetus is a passive participant & has no influence in these matters. Sexuality, for example, & all other secondary traits are thus given to us. Well, this begs the question, is homosexuality a sin since there is no choice offered. The fetus has no willful acceptance. However, if your religion or belief system states that it is a sin, then there can be no discussion. These are the rules based on this system’s dogma. If you accept this system, you must accept the rules. Facts are irrelevant. This is your only choice which doesn’t include options & exceptions. Rules are rules! If, however, you are in a belief system based on logic, reason, observation & common sense, & no reliance on spirituality or religion, the conclusion is totally different. Replacing ancient religion & mythology & superstition with reason leads to another conclusion. Leaving religions that use condemnation & ridicule for control, can be the first step in becoming a true human being minus any imposed or fabricated guilt. There exist many variations of human sexual expression as well in the animal kingdom. When you leave various ancient religious beliefs behind & chose knowledge based in research, you can see & understand the true nature of humanity. You leave ignorance, hatred, & prejudice behind. In the book Gay Straight & the Reason Why by Simon Levay PhD, explanations regarding this aspect of humanity are clearly explained & is based on research. While I am not gay, I highly recommend this book & the numerous articles. Being gay is no more of a sin than having red hair. They are both determined by genetics & clearly not a sin. There is nothing wrong with you. This is the true choice. Peace
@thomashubbell7551
@thomashubbell7551 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Rationally thought out and explained.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
but wrong
@marierhardt
@marierhardt 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I've read or heard about Fr. Martin's opinion on homosexuality is that homosexuals need to be welcome in the church. He explicitly says homosexuals need to follow Church's teachings and refrain from practicing any homosexual acts and live a celibate life. The only thing he is asking for is for understanding and acceptance of the people who like him, feel attracted to people of the same sex. Please if you can quote him accepting and promoting homosexual acts, let me know
@CybermanKing
@CybermanKing 2 жыл бұрын
Fr. Martin supports same-sex marriage within the Catholic Church. Should we accept people with SSA in the Church as brothers and sisters in Christ? Yes, absolutely but Fr. Martin’s expectation that the Catholic Church will allow same-sex couples to do away with celibacy in his book “Building a Bridge” has no precedence.
@winsmen009
@winsmen009 2 жыл бұрын
With regard to interpretation of Holy Scripture, is there some structure or are there any guidelines as to when one is meant to focus on any one of the four ways of interpreting it? As a simple example, how does one understand whether the "seven days" of creation is meant to be interpretted literally as days or more from a poetic sense instead? I know that it is already possible to find exegesis that is approved by our Church, but I'm interested in knowing what makes a particular interpretation standout as the true interpretation.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
Don't ask hoomophobics as they make stuff up
@ripbeni6198
@ripbeni6198 2 жыл бұрын
To say nothing about what he has said and done... evil really does manifest on the outside. Yeesh, creepy dude.
@chase6579
@chase6579 2 жыл бұрын
Physiognomy doesn't lie
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 2 жыл бұрын
yes homophobics are a bit creepy
@ripbeni6198
@ripbeni6198 2 жыл бұрын
@@pastorbri No one is scared of a fairy in a feather boa my guy. But here's a pity 'hah-hah', you're soooooo funny...
@EnlightenedMaster_Saneiv
@EnlightenedMaster_Saneiv 29 күн бұрын
The Catholic "father" is going to say whatever is necessary to justify his actions
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