Did Raditch Ignore Rick?

[@tiyabear]

Frankly I think it was irresponsible of Raditch to let Rick come back to school. He knew students (understandably) would hate him because of what he did to Terry, yet he allowed him to come into an extremely hostile environment with no real plan to deal with it. People were tossing him into lockers everyday and Raditch was like, “it’s above me.”

[@justcallmejessz3712]

Agreed. I haven't watched any episodes in SO long. And happened across a clip of the shooting and suddenly remembered....as though it was the first time or something lol... that Rick was the same who put Terry in a coma and went through the same nostalgic feelings from the first time watching lol.

[@AB-xj3rc]

I thought it was pretty out of character for raditch since he always seemed extremely caring about his students in junior high. You’d think he’d take more notice after somebody like Claude who killed himself. Most of his character was stripped away in TNG.

[@CutterHistorical]

He was great dealing with the Claude situation as the "visual principal", i think once he went from teacher to principal his character went downhill... dont forget him blaming Emma for a food fight she had NOTHING to do with

[@AB-xj3rc]

CutterHistorical yeah I find it weird Raditch was treated poorly in TNG when characters like Joey still continued their development from before

[@CutterHistorical]

Joey didnt have much development after Season 4 as well

[@SuperWolsey]

@@CutterHistorical they had to make him the out of touch fossil for my generation

[@scottmcneely1927]

He got older and more cynical , just like Snake did over the course of Next Gen.

[@Heyheyhaleyd]

I feel like people forget that, that boy put Terry in a coma. He hurt an innocent girl for NO reason. He should of just transferred schools. Like I'm at that person at school who tries to talk to outcasts and be nice. But if that happened at my school, there's no way I would talk to him. Also I do hate what they do with Mr. Raditch. I thought he was always a little too strict when he was a teacher at DJH, but I feel like he really cared for his students. Like especially Joey. See I started DJH in late May & finished it in mid June. And after that I started DNG & I'm on season 5, episode 16.

[@nicholasrobinson8798]

Rick is a human being. He may have done some bad things, but he's still a human being.

[@LyricAiLove]

One thing I want to bring up is that this incident might have contributed to Simpson's tendency to overreact in his role as principal. Like with season 10 when he goes overboard in trying to punish the students for Vegas Night. He's seen principals who are too lenient or who come off as if they don't care so he tends to overreact and over correct.

[@CutterHistorical]

If u saw the end of that episode, Mrs. Torres threatened to oust Simpson if he didn't bring the school into order and thats where the dress code et al. came in

[@chimanruler15]

It could be both factors. Mr. Simpson had seen a lot of shit, and Mrs. Torres's harsh comments towards him just pushed him over the edge.

[@NotAVampyre]

Part of it is also a feeling of betrayal. When he started as principal, he wanted to really change things for the benefit of the students. And yet, they directly betrayed his trust (Clare, Sav and Holly J).

[@scottmcneely1927]

He definitely got more jaded and power mad as the show went on, even before he was a principal. By season six he was enjoying giving out detentions for no reason. Like when he gave Darcy a zero on a test and a detention for telling Derek and Danny to be quiet. I know it was a lie but I'm glad she got him temporarily removed by accusing him of molesting her. Served him right for letting his power as a teacher go to his head. Come to think of it the only good principal they had that stayed a good one was Miss H.

[@signer25]

After the incident it was clear degrassi would not be safe with Rick. Either Rick would hurt someone else or someone would hurt him. It would of been best for him not to return

[@Samia-2003]

Mr.raditch didn’t take him seriously when rick was severely bullied so he could have prevented the shooting from happening

[@scottmcneely1927]

The bottom line is, it was not safe for Rick at Degrassi and Raditch let it happen. He'd become so self centered and intoxicated with his own authority that he'd become out of touch. And isn't it ironic that Emma's anti-violence campaign resulted in more and more extreme violence. Most of the kids who were throwing him into lockers didn't care that much about Terri or even know who she was. They were just jumping on the bandwagon to attack someone who couldn't fight back. These jerks were even attacking Toby, who's never done a thing to anybody. Which is what turned Jimmy's attitude around more than anything else. It is a principal's job to keep every student safe, and Raditch did not do that. I think the writing of this whole arc was brilliant, though, just in showing that nothing is what it seems.

[@NotAVampyre]

It also reveals the dangers of mob justice and how ideals of the individual are easily supplanted by bad actors who looks for an excuse to do harm

[@SirNerdLeroy]

Its so surreal to see simpson so furious and yelling at the man he ran to as a teenager when he found a dead body in the bathroom. Maybe it's a sense of prevention. They talk about setting up programs to help kids with depression or showing some kind of signs that something is wrong in Showtime. Idk. I know he's also directing that anger because he's also mad at himself for not doing more, but it still is a case where another death has happened that shouldn't have like Claude's. I know the other teachers aren't like Simpson because he was more personable to his students from season 1-9, but knowing what he saw and went through, I'm sure this happening brought up trauma from another situation he didn't want to happen.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

Even then none of the other kids said or did anything so its a lot of people at fault especially Jimmy & Spinner.

[@pikachick222]

Raditch was angry because the paint and feather prank made Degrassi look bad. In the scene when he goes on the video announce he said “in my however many years an an educator I have never been more embarrassed to be associated with this school”

[@CutterHistorical]

And it seemed that he was working on trying to fix his tarnished reputation instead of listening to JT and Liberty try to give him constructive criticism Although that reputation HELPED him in the long run cause he just got reassigned, if he didnt cooperate with the school boards investigation, he mightve been fired/sued by Ricks parents

[@SuperWolsey]

@@CutterHistorical could still have happened albeit off screen

[@bcrunch4232]

I think the years have hardened raditch’s heart. Maybe it was the stress of being Principal.

[@michelleferrari6477]

I can’t remember exactly but I think Raditch should have directed Rick to Ms. Suave. I know that he was already in counseling, but if Raditch had told Rick to talk about his issue to Ms. Suave. This solution helps Raditch see how serious or not Rick’s situation is. Raditch also does not have to deal with it taking up his time as a busy principal. I have not finished the video yet. Here is my time stamp: 1:38

[@washingtonleon3131]

With everything Mr. Radditch heard about Rick hurting Terri, he should’ve checked up on him regularly. Everyone made their stance clear, but he wanted to brush it off. Even though Rick saw Ms. Sauve, Mr. Radditch should have been involved to see if Rick coming back was a right choice.

[@charity9660]

Rick was failed by so many people!!! And jimmy poor poor jimmy.

[@Themostawesomestvids]

We all know Rick abused Terry, but he did not deserve to be bullied. He was remorseful and he had counseling because of him abusing her. But I think Raditch would have stepped in and did something about the bullying.

[@justinjones5089]

He didn't show remorse until he got punched by Jay in the same spot he hurt Terri twice

[@spliffyrodgers4266]

He deserved alot more than bullying for what he did to Terry he would've gotten his head kicked in if it wasn't a kids show and even before the terry story line he was still a creepy insecure neek who refused to do himself any favours by sorting himself out he just invites it on himself

[@teddybeer6206]

Here's the thing....the people picking on Rick didn't care about Terri. They just used his abuse of Terri to justify bullying him.

[@emilyrodriguez954]

Rick should've never returned to degrassi in the first place. I feel like degrassi forgot that Rick put Terri in a coma. Spinner got expelled for bullying, and while that lead to Jimmy being getting shot, Rick was already on the border of doing something bad as he had a history of violence (in my opinion it would've just been another victim). My point is that Rick should've been expelled the moment he directly harmed another student, even if it wasnt on school property. Spinner indirectly led to Jimmy getting shot and his punishment was swift. Mr. Raddish is at fault but I dont think it's because he ignored Rick, I think it's because he put him in an environment where he was going to be bullied by letting him return. There was no way Rick wasnt going to get backlash by putting a friend of all main characters into a coma.

[@DonJulio1942]

Technically the school can’t do anything about it and plus besides the shooting who would’ve been his next victim because when i saw it he wasn’t doing anything violent to anyone before the shooting he was enjoying his new found friendship in toby he could’ve been saved if administration wasn’t so corrupt

[@DonJulio1942]

Radditz was at fault because he ignored rick it wasn’t cause he put him in a environment it was because he failed to do his job as principal no matter what happened if a student comes to you about a issue with another student you don’t just blow them it’s your job to make sure everyone is safe which he failed to do so

[@hostileX7]

You nailed it; Rick was not clear when he tried to get Raditch involved. Way too many people are way too quick to put that blame on Raditch but i'm confident that if Rick had articulated himself better in the first place, he would have been more receptive. I also got the feeling that Rick was subtlety coaxing Raditch into asking him to elaborate on his concerns, as he does have a manner of speaking which tends to manipulate conversations toward a desired progression. Raditch didn't have time to play semantics so fault to Rick. Quite frankly, the more I watch those episodes I feel like everything was all over the place on purpose. Who ultimately gets the blame? A case can be made for everyone involved and a case can be made against everyone involved and I think that was the point. This level of violence in a school is the very embodiment of chaos; it shouldn't ever happen and it just does not make sense. One of the last lines of dialogue(if i'm remembering correctly) was Spike saying something to that effect and at the end of the whole ordeal, that was the only thing that DiD make any sense. So, we as the audience are left feeling just as scrambled as the characters with no answers as to WHY.

[@laminage]

Raditch was all about Politics and he wast a very nice teacher. He was a "Bully" Remember how he gave Arthur and Yick a hard time on Degrassi Jr. High. Also never forget that all it takes is to listen to someone who may really need your help. I'll never forget in Saturday Night Fever, when Tony Manero promises to call his Friend Bobby Corelli aka "Bobby C" who was going through alot with getting his Girlfriend Pregnant named Paula. He didn't want to Marry her he wanted Tony to talk to him about it but he didn't. Then at The Bridge Bobby screams "Why didn't you call me!" and "How come you didn't talk to me before!"

[@jaronhaynes3763]

In fairness, Rick said he was being harassed

[@kristianolliviere9045]

He was good on degrassi jr high and degrassi high, but on the next generation mr raditch was horrible and passive aggressive in the rick situation. He was not principal material

[@mtaimry]

It has been a WHILE since I've watched these episodes, but as far as I can remember I got the feeling that the show very much put a lot of the blame on Raditch. I think firing him pretty much sends that message, too- he could've done something, he should've done something and he was fired for not doing anything, never to be seen on the show again.

[@CutterHistorical]

also, the aftermath contributed to his release

[@Dralyn06]

There was a crap ton of blame on Spinner as well. Once spinner confessed to jimmy that he and jay were the ones who insinuated to rick that jimmy was at fault for the paint and feathers, jimmy wanted nothing to do with spinner ever again. And spinner multiple times kept trying to gain back his friendship, but he never was able to. And honestly, I don't blame jimmy either

[@CutterHistorical]

Actually it took a few seasons for Spinner and Jimmy to be friends again

[@tradbimbo]

I truly think Simpson was absolutely correct, I think if Radditch has used is brain for a fraction of a second he would have been able to put together what Rick meant, consider why Rick left degrassi in the first place. He was at some fault for ever allowing Rick back into degrassi..

[@CutterHistorical]

Rick was his worst enemy if he had clearly said he was bullied then Raditch wouldve been more serious to Rick and then the problems were solved. Also bear in mind that if the school board and/or police said something to him, Raditch wouldve backed off

[@charity9660]

When i was bullied i didnt tell anybody until it was over because i didn’t want more people to make fun of the situation or make me feel worse lol i had no idea i was even being bullied until i became an adult. I had no idea why i was suicidal until i got older as well.

[@terranceforeman5116]

TNG did no favors for Raditch... He could have been so much better but that was just ignored and made him like this

[@SMP2390]

I could say Raditch did ignore his problem however being a principal is a hard job that's mainly why it was time for him to step down at the time and have Hotsolocous and Simpson take over for that role. Time does slow folks down a bit.

[@michellesakura1]

From this point on I wished Mr Simpson to be the principal. He would have handled the bullying situation I'm sure and pointed Rick in the right direction to get the help he needs. All Raditch said was "making friends isn't in the curriculum this isn't Pre K". I never seen the old school Degrassi (DJH, DH) shows but I hope Raditch wasn't always like this

[@AB-xj3rc]

michelle mayhem he’s a caring well written character in DJH & DH. I highly recommend the show despite some cringe acting

[@CutterHistorical]

The thing i hate about the Raditch quote was that it was in the deleted scenes and there was a lot of time devoted to the "Joey losing his house and Caitlin saving it" plotline which was NUTS!!! Raditch was a good teacher and a decent VP in the DJH/DH universe but when he was head honcho, he lost some luster Do remember, Hatzilakos came in and did a FANTASTIC job with her school until she left for her mom in Saskatchewan and then came back for a semester to help Peter before giving Simpson the keys to the car so to speak

[@michellesakura1]

CutterHistorical Yeah I don't think anyone actually cared if Craig was sick or if Joey was selling his house, while the Rick storyline was one of the most epic ones in Degrassi history

[@Dralyn06]

And then we got sheppard. Which was even worse than raditch. Stuck up, snobby, and self involved.

[@CutterHistorical]

not to mention being heavily Lakehurst bias, it was clear that he was more favourable to the Lakehurst crowd and didnt like the "outsiders", he eventually got shipped off to sensitivity training but that didnt work and Hot Sauce came back for Season 9

[@jwatts1191]

Please make more videos like this . Around the school shootings and stuff . Its very informational and interesting

[@NotAVampyre]

Thanks! I just released an in depth look at the build up and immediate aftermath of the shooting, actually.

[@diddyisadick3275]

I feel Rick deserved his bullying cuz he had some nerve coming back after putting a girl in a coma. Radditch should of had a heart to heart with Rick instead of blow his cry for help out the window. Radditch is an awful selfish principle who deserved to get fired and Im glad he did.

[@CutterHistorical]

No one deserves to be bullied!!! Raditch couldve just denied Rick a chance to come back to Degrassi and that wouldve been that, in Mercy Street Rick was protected by Raditch but something changed all that, possibly Rick annoying him or Emma's campaign

[@diddyisadick3275]

CutterHistorical I’m just saying if he thought he could come back to school and everyone would of just forgot about it he’s dead wrong. He shouldnt of been surprised he got hurt. I heard people blaming Emma for it when she probably didnt know what she was getting into an later on she was nice to Rick. You can’t blame her for rejecting Rick like that cuz he’s a creepy perv.

[@Daisy-ge1ig]

@@CutterHistorical I disagree he did deserve it but the paint and feathers was way too far in my opinion.

[@CutterHistorical]

Good points, Emma also didnt think she would have Rick fall for her even tho she tried to defuse the situation, at least the school did not go after Emma in any way. Emma did the right thing for rejecting Rick but did the wrong thing by keeping her emotions to herself even tho it was imperative that Rick was attracted to her and made her uncomfortable. But she probably didnt want to be hypocritical... Also she was without a boyfriend at the time which made her an easier target.

[@CutterHistorical]

+Donasia Flintroy AGREED!!!!

[@signer25]

Rick was "bullied" and did what any victims is supposed to do. He went to an adult. Teacher or parent. In this case principle. But the principle did nothing. Told him to let something happen and let it go too far before he would do something about it.

[@ChristineTheHippie]

If anything, I do think maybe Raditch could have explained to Marco and Alex that his hands were tied for letting Rick back. It's hard to say if Rick come be saved.

[@NotAVampyre]

I think he did kinda say that he couldn't stop Rick from re-enrolling, but not in a very clear way. Plus, that probably wouldn't have been justification enough to stop them from doling out street justice on Rick.

[@CutterHistorical]

@@NotAVampyre yes but in the deleted scenes

[@warmac88]

Great video

[@NotAVampyre]

Hahaha thanks!

[@warmac88]

@@NotAVampyre your welcome

[@Daisy-ge1ig]

I kinda disagree with the comments about Raditch on DJH & DH as far as he should have been there for Rick after what happened to Claude. He pretty much made his suicide seem dumb and an overreaction of what's going on in Claudes life. Not very caring at all.

[@CutterHistorical]

If ure meaning why didnt Raditch stop Claude from suicide then two things come to mind: 1) Raditch was justa VP at the time and had no clue what Claude was going through and 2) He made a poignant speech to some students about being overwhelmed but not giving in to death

[@Daisy-ge1ig]

@@CutterHistorical That's not what I said. He didn't even know the kid. I'm talking about part 1 where every one was given the news and it showed how everyone reacted and felt. Raditch was insensitive as hell for no reason.

[@CutterHistorical]

I mightve read the comment wrong, I thought u were talking about Claude's suicide.

[@NotAVampyre]

I think it's very much a product of the time and the then current thinking about suicide. It was also important for them to make sure their portrayal of suicide wasn't glorified or seen as a good thing in the way folks accuse 13 Reasons Why of.

[@Daisy-ge1ig]

@@NotAVampyre I've never seen it from that perspective but it makes so much sense.

[@Dralyn06]

Raditch is definitely to blame for this. Rick was trying to explain what was going on with jimmy, spinner and the other guys harassing him. But raditch wouldn't even let rick talk about it. He just excused whatever he was going to say as some middle school drama situation. Rick should've gone to the counselor instead. Raditch was an ignorant ass, but sheppard is MUCH worse than raditch. But for the shooting to actually take place, I mostly blame spinner and jay for making it happen. Rick probably wouldn't of even done anything if people just left him alone. Even with the gun in his backpack.

[@CutterHistorical]

I agree with ur logic but if u watched the scene with Rick and Raditch he does not: a)say whos bothering him other than Jimmy b) mention what type of bullying he had against him and c) disclose much information at all. True that Raditch cut Rick off before he got too far in his explanation but Rick was scared of the "snitches get stitches" mentality and if he was more straightforward, Raditch would have ZERO reason to ignore him

[@Dralyn06]

CutterHistorical I have. I’ve watched Degrassi tng over a dozen times. Rick felt that his complaints weren’t good enough for raditch to hear thru all the way so he didn’t bother reaching out for help more. Tbh raditch should’ve been a middle school principal rather than a hs one because he keeps thinking that hs kids don’t have the problems adults do and that they overreact.

[@CutterHistorical]

BTW @NotaVampyre Do u have more videos of u doing stuff related to the school shooting?? Would be nice to see some1 elses perspective about the shooting in video form other than me

[@NotAVampyre]

I'm about to release one about Rick's death that relates to the shooting (if all goes well this week)

[@CutterHistorical]

Ummm the thing is I am doing some posts for Degrassi reddit to do with the shooting next week (text posts as I have already did videos on the shooting: Degrassi Shooting playlist search for) If u want to do research for YOUR video and want to use stuff u learn from my videos or text posts ure more than welcome to , on the basis I get a shoutout

[@NotAVampyre]

I've already got the video recorded and it's being edited now for release tomorrow morning. I haven't watched any of your work yet, so I'm not drawing from it for this video. Thanks for the offer though.

[@CutterHistorical]

I think u didnt know I did something on it before u did urs... Its alright but I know I'll do a followup video as i said in my Degrassi Reddit post from Thursday Aug 30th and I might see ur video and look at what ur opinion is and see if I need to make changes myself...

[@CutterHistorical]

Ure more than welcome to look at my videos for future inspirations as long as u mention me in some cpacity.

[@Rockabillyman26]

Even though there was no excuse for what Rick did, no matter what the circumstances were before all of this when Rick put Terri in a coma, nobody deserves to be bullied, like snake told Mr Raditch this tragedy could have been prevented if Raditch had of done his job as a principal and took Rick's bullying seriously, even Rick told Mr Raditch that he was being bullied and Raditch did nothing and just ignored Rick by saying it takes two to tangle and I suggest you learn to get along, that was not very professional like on Mr Raditch as a principal when it came to handling a situation especially when a student or students is bullying another student.

[@idontkniw7992]

Who is a better principal Raditch or Simpson

[@NotAVampyre]

Hmm hard to say. I think overall Simpson, though he of course isn't without flaws.

[@CutterHistorical]

Looking at the attitudes of the situation in the last 16 months since this came out... the main answer for the question posed in this videos title is Yes and No Yes due to the fact that he missed Ricks bullying and basically he thought he could fix the schools reputation No due to the fact that Ricks behaviour at not being straightforward was a major blunder... All Rick had to do is say the magic words "hes bullying me" about Jimmy then things wouldve been done

[@NotAVampyre]

Maybe, but it's hard to say of his word choice would've made a difference since he's clearly been complaining to Raditch for a while now about how other students treat him, and little has happened from the administration's side.

[@CutterHistorical]

@@NotAVampyre true that but if Rick said something about Jimmy bullying him, Jimmy wouldve been questioned and things mightve changed for him

[@redbuick]

I have to say as much as I never liked raditch,I always thought he was an arrogant overbearing man. He didn't want violence etc but someone came to him with legitimate problems and he blew Rick off. but none of it would have happened if Rick had even come back.

[@justcallmejessz3712]

Who is at fault for the shooting? Rick. Rick is responsible for the shooting. Ultimately Rick is the one who chose to bring a gun, and use it. That's not to say others are innocent by any means. It's was MASSIVELY inappropriate for Rick to be in school with the friends and classmates of the girl he put into a coma. Did he ever even go to jail? Either way.... why any adult thought it would end with Rick making all kids of friends and everything would be fine and dandy is beyond me

[@joshshipp2979]

He really didn't care about everything that happened since Rick was getting bullied a lot at the school and he had a lot of problems of his own it really wasn't right in spinner and Jay-Z to trick Rick into thinking it was Jimmy that set up the prank Jimmy had nothing to do with it because I know Jimmy was really pissed off after the yellow paint and feathers on Rick

[@joshshipp2979]

But again principal Ratich really didn't do a good job at everything that happened so that's how Mr Ratich got fired and Ms Hatizlotcost became principal at the end of season 4 and she was the principal of the school from seasons 5 through 7 but left in season 8 for that other principal principal shep I think but Ms Hatizlotcost came back one last time in season 9 and then after that Mr Simpson became principal in season 10 all the way until next class 😊

[@bestabothworldz2766]

I dont think so

[@HalifaxHercules]

Mr. Raditch is one of the most tunnel visioned teachers and administrators in Degrassi history as he didn't learn from his mistakes. For instance, during the Degrassi High era, a Grade 12 student, Claude Tanner, committed suicide on school property, and did nothing to prevent this tragedy, such as getting him referred to a Psychiatrist. Keep in mind that Snake was the student whom found his body. He does the same thing with Rick Murray during the TNG era in his failure to make an effort to stop this tragedy. Makes me glad that he got removed as Principal and replaced with Hatzilakos.

[@NotAVampyre]

This assumes you, especially a school official, ALWAYS knows when someone is planning suicide. Remember, not even his friend Johanna knew what he was going to do. There are usually warning signs, but they aren't as obvious as they appear on TV. Are Grace, Jonah, and Zig bad people because they didn't stop Maya from trying to OD? No. They had no way of knowing. Don't blame someone for not acting on information they didn't have. Mr. Raditch could've and should've done more for Rick. But, the same cannot be said for Claude.

[@justinjones5089]

Rick came to Raditch with unnecessary things like for example when he informed Raditch jimmy didn't like him lol thats life and he almost killed a student for no reason not saying it be right either way and attended a school to where he was disliked what did he except he put stress on the staff and principal he should've stayed out degrassi he knew he wasn't liked for putting his ex in a coma so why go back