Did Tesla Make a Mistake? (Kia EV9 vs Tesla Model X)

[@schizo0223]

But Chris, like you mentioned you don't need the falcon wing on the EV9. You can pull and reverse the car out of the parking space via the key fob. You don't even have to get near the car next to you.

[@asdfasdfasdfasdeff]

@@thehardyinvestor Yeah until you actually use them. I hate them. They do hit things still, i.e. if you reverse in they WILL hit the adjacent car's side view mirrors. I'm always paranoid they will run into something. They've run into my garage door tracks up above and scratched up the car, etc. They are cool in theory but in practice horrible. Same with the powered front doors, latest models only open about 2 inches then they hold on tight so it feels like you're going to break them if you need to get in quick. I"m considering moving to an EV9 for this reason alone with all the dumb doors.

[@HD_Kerino]

@@thehardyinvestorlol they break all the damn time, even in new ones. A Client traded one in after only 5 months of ownership because the falcon doors were unusable.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

​@@thehardyinvestorroflmao imagine buying an inferior car because you're worried about blocking a car park aisle for the 30 seconds it takes to get in your car.

[@praveensg]

​@@lmaoroflcopterHa ha ha. I own two Teslas and those falcon wing doors are dumb.

[@lmaoroflcopter]

@praveensg I wasn't aware Falcon wing doors were sentient. When you say Dumb what kind of IQ range are you expecting an inanimate object to have?

[@jeannie36545]

Thanks for the great detailed video comparison! I've always been a Tesla fan, but the Kia EV9 is looking really cool!

[@sharvisharvz_pyrotechnics5559]

What about tesla makes you a big fan?

[@patriotfootball14]

@@sharvisharvz_pyrotechnics5559 For me it's software, bar none so far. I have FSD on my model 3 and this latest update is pretty wild in terms of the jump in autonomy. Afraid I would lose out on that for all the other stuff Kia offers.

[@praveensg]

​@@sharvisharvz_pyrotechnics5559their cars?

[@CYBRLFT]

Hey you ended up in my neck of the woods! Haha. Some video man. That EV9 looks great.

[@EverydayChris]

Haha sup bro. Yeah that place is far far

[@tgo9851]

Hey Chris, your clip is getting better and better. You deserve more viewers and subscriptions for sure. Keep it up.

[@EverydayChris]

Thank you!

[@optimisticprime809]

Now this isbthe review Ive been waiting for. Definitely getting a EV9 now lol Thanks.

[@jmanko]

And now Kia is giving the $7500 rebate themselves to get more people to buy the EV9. Plus most dealers are giving an additional rebate on top of that because no one is buying them. I got my EV9 Land with $7500 Kia rebate, $500 Kia Loyalty discount, and $7000 dealer rebate bringing a $75k MSRP car down to $65k out the door (after tax/title/doc fees). Tesla Model X can't beat that.

[@dildaar.k1523]

Where are you seeing 7k dealer rebate?

[@88omarz]

Yes saw this at myy dealer as will

[@Motor-Heads11]

Me 2 in dearborn hts ​@@dildaar.k1523

[@HD_Kerino]

@@dildaar.k1523lol we are giving out a lot more than that, just sold one and the client got 20k in rebates.

[@BrokenSword17]

Same. Got a white GT that is super sexy for 69k after taxes out the door in FL.

[@Anthony__420]

I’ve seen a couple of them here in SW Florida. Slick looking! Nice to see Everyday Jan❤

[@sidney1234usc]

This has to be one of the best and most genuine reviews I've ever seen. 🙌🏿

[@winddancer77]

Thank you for your fantastic review! Finally someone who made practical tests and the first one I saw measuring the decibels! Was desperatly searching for this! ;)

[@johnkang2000]

We have tesla model X as test car at the company, we had to send it for service due to leaky doors. Crazy.

[@doudymac]

The Model X is one of the most problematic EVs on the market.

[@doubleclutchonline5811]

@@doudymac I'm on my 2nd Model X. Problem-free so far.

[@doudymac]

@@doubleclutchonline5811 That's great. 👍 The 2023 model X got a 2 out of 5 in reliability from Consumer Reports.

[@gregbailey45]

​@doudymac CR are renowned to be anti-Tesla!

[@praveensg]

They need to make a legit 7 seater without those falcon doors. That's where the R1S is winning

[@akis3556]

Does it have a Tesla-like security camera sytem? Does the heated steering wheel heat the whole thing or just sections, like 3 and 9 o'clock?

[@jaymac4448]

No on the security cam function in the US. Yes on the steering wheel. The whole thing heats.

[@akis.4493]

@@jaymac4448 Thanks. The Asian or European models get a security system? Is that something we can get in the US by an OTA update later?

[@jaymac4448]

@akis.4493 I was a little upset about it, but it is a Korean exclusive. But honestly, the craze of the tesla people with their monitoring turned me off on the idea of it. They are so obsessive. I'm fine with just having the notifications of something wrong and the 360 view.

[@danielroden9424]

a crazy world where 65-75k is affordable! it looks like an explorer though so its nice there's a not 100k suv that seats 6 actual humans!

[@KrAOLo]

Yeah, but all cars are more expensive now, sadly. Comparatively affordable is probably the right wording.

[@bobby350z]

Just saw another one today, looks nice.

[@Tai-tenku]

You didn't try the cruise control on KIA. You only did on Tesla.?

[@sniffy2614]

Literally EV9 can be a house for some folks

[@yingmustang67]

It's a great camper!

[@hoanduy3922]

Asian families can make boiling water and eating instant noodles on EV9 :)

[@yingmustang67]

@hoanduy3922 For theme, is it a Foodtruck!

[@light-rd7vq]

Hey Chris i wanted to know how the ev9 lane keep compares with autopilot. I hear Kia/Hyundai lane keep is pretty good but is it as good as autopilot?

[@EverydayChris]

Yes. Couldn’t show it hands free since it’s not not legally allowed. But that’s a huge thing for me, their autopilot or driver assistance is sooo good

[@kinncj]

That stupid non-folding captains chair is the reason why I didn't get a plaid... no sure why Tesla did that, they should've allowed the Plaid configuration to also be 5/6/7 seats.

[@EverydayChris]

agree

[@A_Norwegian]

Weird that the third row isn't motorized in this trim (GT-line?). Here (Norway) you can lower and raise both second and third row from buttons in the trunk. There are also buttons to control the recline of the third row, by the cup holders in the back. Doesn't really matter all that much, but it's a nice feature to have.

[@BremboT]

EV9 looks super intimidating in person. Has a real presence. Can't believe I'm saying this, but Kia gets my money over Tesla in this comparison.

[@thuantran6977]

EV9, U can sleep over night in this when u go on a long trip but forget to book a hotel hahahahaha🤣

[@yankeesusa1]

Wow, I've seen several videos and reviews on this SUV and I'm really liking it. It's the first electric vehicle that I've actually wanted to buy for the family. But starting at 55,000 i hope this will be sold as used vehicles in about a year.

[@hp-fx9pv]

Great video and very informative!

[@snse8479]

How do the crash test ratings compare?

[@tch92911]

EV9 got 5 stars raking on Euro ECAP

[@christophermorales6680]

I was cracking up with you in the model y third row haha. Subbed

[@EverydayChris]

Hahaa ty! That ish was small

[@sherwinm]

Thank you for this. I've been wondering about the EV9 but going to the dealership to take a look is dreadful. Bad enough I get so many spam calls a day, that's the feeling I get going to the dealership. So many good things about this car. But on/off button? How's the software support? Will the Kia boys be able to break in to this car? Even with continued issues with our Model X Plaid, I'm still happy with what we have... yes it sounds strange.

[@affenkoppbonn]

What kind of ambient lighting does the model x have? I thought it hasn’t?

[@EverydayChris]

None

[@d2aqua861]

@@EverydayChris It does have an option to turn on ambient lighting that's directed towards the floor and foot areas. Just not LED light strips

[@yankeesusa1]

You should check out the hybrid Kia Carnival, many features like these with even more room.

[@KhoiBoa]

Chris how much was the model x wrap cost

[@mark100177]

Getting me hungry with the Same Same and 85 degree references!!

[@EverydayChris]

looll. I could go for those hot dog buns from 85 right now

[@vikssars]

I forgot Meridian sound system, it is not too much sound but it is so crisp and all audiophile will appriciate the sound quality and boy it has Apple car play but guess what I am loving EV9's own mapping system, I love how it shows the exit or ramp with real sign on map.

[@kelvpoon]

I wish I can get an EV9 but Tesla charging and integration. Then it’s perfect.

[@EverydayChris]

Sooon!

[@mauriciomendez1912]

2025, right?

[@ChrisParayno]

It is

[@kelvpoon]

@@EverydayChris I meant actual EV9 car but use Tesla app and Tesla charging network. Basically how I wish Tesla made EV9 and charge EV9 price haha

[@EverydayChris]

Pretty much. End of 2024@@mauriciomendez1912

[@TriumphDoc]

Have a Plaid and just got the EV9 for Wife and kids. It’s amazing and Tesla better tighten their shit up as they won’t be dominant for very long with the innovations coming from Kia and Hyundai. Thanks for doing the video Chris and not being a fanboy exclusive to Tesla.

[@light-rd7vq]

Hey Chris im asian and even i have admit that everyday jane is NOT a full sized adult 😂, i kid i kid, great stuff keep it up

[@dreverydayjan]

Hahaha 😅

[@BrianNedry]

Great presentation you highlighted the benefits of both vehicles very well and while the model X is nice it just seems like the EV9 would suit our family better for road trips, especially when Kia gets NACS. Don't get me wrong, the Model X is faster, sporty, better frunk/sub trunk space, better software but 3rd row is too tight to accommodate taller passengers. Plus the EV9 is a better value for your money IF you can get it around MSRP. Loving the ocean blue color, looks sick.

[@EverydayChris]

Agree

[@RochesterNYRealtor]

Agreed. Have to test drive it to see how the drive is

[@wheeliewheelie]

two things with the tesla x windshield...the tint seems too far down and i can see the reflection of the road lines in my peripheral vision and it is annoying...

[@crtmojo2705]

How fast the mood has changed. Last year EVs were the pariah. Now they are the new standard. Competition brings innovation and lower prices.

[@ashendoski]

19:40 You are mistaken there; many people drive daily for up to 3 hours.

[@Teddy_M85]

Come on Chris, don't believe sales agents when they say no mark ups! They will add extra warranties and/or fees one way or another... Also, I'm not sure if you are aware, but Kia/Hyundai Canada charged someone $60k for a battery replacement on the Ioniq 5, which coat 60k new. Tesla's are expensive, but I wouldn't trust dealerships with cars that are currently losing them money to sell. Maybe in their next gen models. I do agree the EV9 looks great and has a lot of useful features.

[@EverydayChris]

I have a record of it lol. they better not lie

[@firstime911]

Do you recomend ? If i trade my 2023 Model Y Performance for this Ev9 GT, I worried that i will miss the performance and software feature of the MYP

[@EverydayChris]

I'd do it tbh if I had a family

[@samsantos7369]

Awesome review, I've been watching a lot of reviews on EV9 and this one is the best 👌. I guess EV9 it is.

[@CoFRTheGamerXxX]

If I do end up buying one, I’ll be ordering the seats from Korea to swivel mid row. Ridiculous we don’t have them here

[@MrRealtalk84]

Im 6’ 4” similar to you and i can say i didn’t fit a dealership in 3rd row maybe I needed to move second row up which i thought i did. I will check again a dealership. My wife palisade 3rd row is bigger it seems. Thanks for the video

[@mark100177]

I’ve hated Kias for a few years because of their minivan, but this one definitely has some cool and nice features. Love the space and look, but the X has so much more, especially for just another $20k-$25k more. I also don’t like that the kia 7 seater is only available in the lower trims.

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

The main reason why I would buy a Tesla model X over a Kia EV9 is because of the Tesla supercharger network. The Tesla supercharger network here in New York City is ubiquitous and easy to deal with. The EV9 is stuck using Electrify America or EVgo. That is unless you have your own charger at home. Beyond charging at home I don’t feel comfortable using the public charger networks and I would prefer access to Tesla supercharger network. If charging wasn’t an issue, then I would consider the EV9 definitely for a family of four. The EV9 is comfortable and it has plenty of luxury features all around including heated/cold seats for the front and the back passengers.

[@mjsabie8517]

Kia will be able to use superchargers soon so that really is a non issue

[@fatphoca5009]

You forgot to mention the headroom in the middle seat of the 7 seat model X has almost no headroom.

[@vikssars]

you are funny on frunk lol, I am an 2 week proud owner of Land EV9 and after owning 20+ good cars like 4 MDX and Q7, I am super happy and just amazed on EV9, the designer team of EV9 precisely planned and design the EV9, Ihave also drove X and Y and asked my friends who owns both X and Y and Z lol, I hated how Tesla drives it was the most aweful driving experiance, Y was super AWEFUL to drive vs EV9 its so much fun to drive you feel like driving Suburban size of vehicle, suspension is out of this world with almost no noise inside and listening to Kia's own Nature of sound is priceless and calming. I loved the Amber lights wow, I bought the LED Spectrum as well and Golden State Warrior display theme which looks so cool. did you forget one special thing EV9 has - Apple Digital Car key which is not like Tesla Bluetooth key it is NFC and boy it syncs with your Apple account and will work even the phone is out of battery, the trunk can open as soon as walk behind car and no need to put down your grocery bag. can go on and on and on, I spent 8 hours and applied Avalon ceramic coating and now it shines so much and so much hydrophobic lol. LOVE IT. the only thing I wish kia would have added is dashboard cam, it has camrea all over but no option to record or view on red light. one last thing- I have 5 dealership or service centers to go in case I need help. I nhave same color. lol

[@jayygtr]

Is the carbon dash a vinyl or a cover overlay? 🤔

[@EverydayChris]

vinyl wrap

[@brokeboy87]

Every Kia dealership I've been there are discounts. plus 75k or 11k off in rebates debating on your state. Overall it's a way better value.

[@i.d.6492]

I've seen both in person and the EV9 looks so much better and unique, it looks like a futuristic range rover

[@mauriciomendez1912]

I love it. I was looking at the Cadillac Lyriq 🤔

[@moktafizaman9077]

We all surely do love the Cadillac Vistiq more!(sarcastically)

[@two-five-one]

No. Woeful quality control, inconsistent infotainment, cheap materials, low space utilization, etc. GM's developers seem lost for a while. Or dozed off. I'm not forcing you to buy EV9. Just not to buy Lyriq.

[@sturat18]

Slightly used EV9s are an even better deal. I'm finding Wind and Land models slightly above $50k with 5k or less miles. That's a lot of car for the money.

[@csguak]

I totally would have went for EV9 if it had more range 😞

[@dankosoul]

right? I find the Tesla to have a meh look, don't find them appeal that much, but the blue here does look fantastic. Right now Ionic 5, ev6, ev6 and model 3/y are the main ones on my mind, and the biggest factor is range. Also the model y's roof is fantastic too lol. Overall I think the model Y would be my choice for a well balanced car with range/charging being the main factors.

[@jigs8437]

Are you kidding me Kia EV9 has close to 300 miles of range

[@Fumbiii16]

It does. Check out our of spec review. It has a bigger battery

[@rj8u]

The Rivian R1S its a better deal specially with their current lease offers compare to Kia EV9.

[@shairuno]

That’s 85 degrees joke, 😂 got me

[@Nexx]

Tesla would have dominated in this segment if they released a larger SUV with a functional 3rd row. Could have easily kept cost down too by staying with normal doors.

[@EverydayChris]

Yeah true I wonder if they will

[@stoner27th]

A Cybervan would be nice

[@theplainwreck]

Everyone brings up how the falcon wings make things easy… Most New England homes (and garages) are 8’ ceilings. Try getting your kid out of the car while in the garage with the motor and door there.

[@paddyvega]

Why do car manufacturers keep making the headliner cream colored or gray? Like why not color match the whole car all black … I’ve seen this a lot lately when they reach the final year before the redesign of certain cars then they make it all black

[@JoeL-zx2tl]

Maybe you should buy a Kia rather than a Tesla

[@MrRaitzi]

Service network alone is a reason in most of the countries

[@ROBMACDUI]

@@MrRaitziDid you mean a terrible private service network? I’ll stick with Teslas superior service.

[@PaulMathias1]

Kia and Hyundai are smashing it right now.

[@cranfktubner7677]

Just learned few things about my own car (EV9) 🤣 thank you !

[@tdragon87]

Chris, did you notice any head bobing in the EV9 while driving? I had it for a couple of days and I got motion/car sick every time I was driving, not passenger, driving it. I then noticed my head was going back and forward all the time. That was with cruise control but on a "MEH" road. I feel like the wheel span of the EV9 makes it "sail" the road like a ship and makes me sick.

[@EverydayChris]

Interesting. None. My head was always resting on the head rest but I see what you mean since it has some give. But not crazy.

[@tdragon87]

@@EverydayChrisThanks for the quick reply. I feel like my brain is telling me buy the EV9, but my heart says buy a Model X. I've always been a Tesla fan and I work a lot with IT. I just feel like the Tesla is a better fit for me, but with three small kids and the space the EV9 would give me. Man it's hard. Also they mark up the EV9 like crazy in my country, and no Kia connect, so 80% of the software is useless :\. Doesn't even show me the estimated battery percentage on arrival because it needs Kia connect to show live traffic and without that it just doesn't show estimated battery at arrival -.-. Kia is really reaching with their subscription price at 20$ for a month. And it doesn't even work here -.-.

[@stockey]

The EV9 has a smaller frunk, because, Kia prioritise inside space instead of frunk space.

[@slyguyaction]

Weird how the third row will lay flat in our 2023 Model X Plaid. 🤔 Either way, I’m thrilled with our Plaid.

[@MegaLifeChanging]

Nice features, but how's the dependability considering it hasn't made electric cars as long as Tesla.How will batteries hold up?

[@ericgregori]

How many families that can afford a $55K+ vehicle have more than 2 kids? Hopefully, this pushes Tesla towards a less expensive X or a Cybertruck conversion to Cyber full size SUV.

[@Gurule]

I just picked up a 2019 model x for 45k. 48k miles. I'm super happy with it. Upgraded from a Y. Have 2 kiddos

[@Upnaut]

Or 2 kids + Nannys :) since I am in Asia… 5 seats are not enough anymore 😅

[@chaseme9860]

Honestly, the one thing that should never be left out when comparing Tesla to other makes is Tesla's Achilles' heel... Lack of enough service centers. As much as I want a Tesla, I will never buy one for this one reason. I'm not going to buy a car that takes a 1.5 hour drive for a repair. I live in a suburb of the 3rd largest city in the nation. This is completey unacceptable.

[@life-pm5xl]

You in San Diego? I heard Coronado. Lol

[@mark100177]

I haven’t watched the video but saving it for later this morning. That Ev9 looks nice but it’s a Kia, which I despise from previous Kia ownership. It does look promising though. Also hoping for the Lucid Suv that supposedly will be out later this year.

[@EverydayChris]

Lol watch the video.. I literally say "but it's a KIA!!" hahah

[@mark100177]

@@EverydayChris Love the video. All your videos. You did a great job and covered more than I would have thought of. I was really impressed with what Kia has done, especially with their very first EV. Love some of the features, but going from the X to the Kia would be going backwards. Props to those that go straight to Kia for their first EV.

[@TheParsaver]

model x second row seats are uncomfortable, not good enough for family car.

[@sharvisharvz_pyrotechnics5559]

It appears that Tesla is falling short significantly comparted to its newer EV competitors. LOVE IT!!!

[@scotduckrow8524]

Eliminates the need for Tesla to develop a van, except for commercial use.

[@Target135]

34:24 my wife JUST scolded me the other day for using my middle finger to control a touch screen at a hotel we were checking into. She said I look weird 😢

[@EverydayChris]

hahaha its the logical choice

[@urbanspaceman7183]

Try loading the model x in your garage.

[@bigbertha8]

Instead of having the cars' doors opening 90 degrees, I'd rather have an option to limit it so I don't have to worry about my kid dinging the car next to me.

[@Random_Oskar]

I would think about it if it had a longer range because it is a bigger vehicle, for a contemporary family the tesla is fine and I would think it is safer, I am not interested in being able to carry more adults, because each adult has their own car.

[@avarageplayer200]

He should change his name for everyday chris 6'3"

[@EverydayChris]

Hahaah

[@switchtoelectric]

Of course Kia has come with really good things but don't forget that the Model x has more interesting things than any other car.

[@dalitex-c4885]

This is a pointless comparison ! Model X is a different beast and a beauty ! EV9 is a nicer soccer mom car aka Van ! There is NO Model X equivalent car out there for comparison ! Maybe EV9 vs Rivian Van would have been more appropriate comparison !

[@justin9152]

The Model X looks old af now. Also it's probably the worst looking Tesla if we don't include the CyberTruck.

[@Dr.Octogon]

Until these EVs can access the Tesla charging network, there is no point in buying them. Not because they are bad cars, many of them are more compelling and better built than the Tesla's. It is just because the 3rd Party charging networks are not maintained as they should be. There should never be a situation where you need to get a charge only to arrive at a charge, and it is not working properly. Also, the charging speeds need to be more consistent across the board. Tesla is the only provider of a well-maintained, consistent charging infrastructure. I am bullish that will change, but that is a big problem with EV adoption from manufacturers outside of Tesla at the moment, which is why it makes sense that they are all moving to the NACS standard.

[@vulcan4d]

Scary thought is that Kia made cars far longer than Tesla.....so who do you trust more to make a better car :p

[@SamanoSoleyn]

I'll get the Tesla model x just for the flex

[@bigdi77]

Flex? I see these things everywhere no flex to be had

[@mauriciomendez1912]

Pay more for a mediocre, ho hum vehicle? Flex 🤦‍♂️

[@doublem6027]

Thats what it is

[@robertregan2305]

THAT EV9 LOOKS THE BOOM 💥 👌 FCUK THE TESLA LOOKS HORRIBLE AND I HAVE EXCELLENT EYE 👁 SIGHT ! EV9 IS SO BEAUTIFUL 😍 SAW ONE FOR THE FRIST TIME ON THE ROAD YESTERDAY ITT JUST LOOKED SO BEAUTIFUL KIA ARE SMASHING IT 👏

[@justin9152]

The X has some cool features but for me personally the exterior design just looks too dated. It's been time for a ground up redesign of both the Model S and Model X.

[@UncleAlpha1]

Tesla X falcon doors seals the deal winner. Makes it so much easier loading people Especially kids in and out. Imagine park in a parking spot with a car next to you. If you have kids and drove a van with sliding doors, you would know the benefits. Only if the EV9 had sliding rear doors like a van.

[@jonmanuelreyes7588]

Tesla still in business?

[@davidy5993]

Kia was one of the brands that tracks and reports your driving style to LexisNexis, which in turn sells it to the insurance companies. Your rates then go up or you get dropped completely.

[@EverydayChris]

Wow. So just like Tesla Insurance

[@jonc.2560]

Charging is always the problem for non Tesla EV

[@jairocastellanos7790]

Public charging stations are so unreliable… plus the miles range is a mayor issue…

[@kenmasters007]

If the kia is the best you can get, I would just stick with an ICE minivan

[@ekaputrat]

"85 degrees". :)

[@ddb5736]

I have a Tesla Model 3 Performance, but my wife has the Kia Carnival. We love that minivan as we have three kids. She got the top of the line with all digital screens including the second row screens. To be honest, those screens are not really worth it, our kids always want to use their tablets as they have all their games and videos there. After 2 years, the 2nd row screens are becoming a bit obsolete. When we are done paying our cars (we got them at the same time on 2022 and we have about 3 to 4 years to go), I will be getting either a new Model 3 Performance, or, if the budget permits, the Model S Plaid (crossing fingers). But for my wife, she loves Kia, so we will probably be getting either the EV9 or maybe an EV mini van if they have it available by then. As long the range is at least 400 miles, we will be looking into it. Hopefully in 3 to 4 years new batteries will provide 400 miles or more of range. And I'm sure the next cars after those will be using solid state batteries if they end up being successful. Those should give at least 600 to 800 miles of range and charge extremely quick (I read they will be able to add around 300 miles in less than 5 minutes on level 4 chargers). And even better, they don't have issues with extreme temperatures so no more dead EVs when it is freezing cold. Looking forward for the future!!!

[@riceball777]

Model x for me. You just can’t compare the performance of the model x.

[@ecobra169]

And tesla charging infrastructure makes all the differences.

[@yuchan063]

Generally Model X is much better but I don't think it is $20K difference. EV9 is better choice if you can save $20K

[@efemdesign]

I'm just going to wait for the High Tech Chinese EVs at $22-33k from the likes of BYD that we will have in the US by 2027 or sooner which will easily have 300+ miles range

[@babyganga8786]

Its a race to the first,dead battery

[@caknelson2254]

...........$75,000 is considered affordable now a days?

[@Annette_Hons]

To be honest, the third row is useless for people with actual legs. you have to push the second row all the way forward to have leg room,. It's literally the same size as a Telluride - which is smaller than a Model X. the Third row only has 30" of legroom. If you have a car seat back in the third row the kids legs will be cramped and they will be kicking the crap out of the seat in front. The EV9 is literally a stretched out Kia Soul. After seeing it in person it's a hard NO for me! In videos it appears to be much larger, but in reality it's not. If you are looking for a compact SUV, then the EV9 is for you. if you want mid-size you need to look towards the Rivian R1S.

[@MadLadsAnonymous]

R1S is crazy expensive. Not even in the same price bracket!

[@Uifdhgfbvgbccn]

Volvo ex90 ❤

[@rdk3996]

How many mistakes has tesla made. Prefer my MX over 9, but good job by Kia.

[@creyes4182]

Yeah I always thought this was a cool car, but that price for a Kia is a bit much.