The Best Electric SUV? Tesla Model X vs Kia EV9 (Part 2)

[@DrEarbuds]

This video feels like we are spying on a husand and wife having a normal conversation about a new car .. So relaxing and easy to watch

[@ItsKimJava]

😆 love this!

[@JonasDavidsson]

So you reviewed a car and came to the conclusion that the UI was the trigger? We moved from MX to EV9 and can't be happier. The overall quality, the roominess, actual buttons for basic interactions, the quietness. Everything goes to Kia. Thank 5for a great video.

[@tomcat124us]

Car Play and Android Auto Game Changer

[@HerroYuy246]

Yeah they did not seem to compare very well.

[@youzongliu]

I mean it depends what you are looking for I guess. For me Tesla is better not just because of the UI, but their entire computing power. It's more intuitive, more responsive, and that also results in a unmatched self driving technology that no other vehicle comes close to. To me the Tesla is a big computer that can take me somewhere without me having to do much. The Kia is an overall better vehicle for sure, but it just feels like a regular car but with a battery instead of an engine.

[@ak7044]

What is your average range of the EV9 pls? Thx

[@EcoThink2024]

Kia/Hyundai are reimagining their EVs, and they LOOK BRILLIANT. Just looks beautiful and can't wait till the IONIQ 9 or the 2025 EV9 releases. HUD(Gt-line), massage seats (higher trims), heated and ventilated in some trims for the second row, usable three rows, pop out tray, etc. So much to offer.

[@DeepDishLA]

Great review but 2 major errors. 1) Model X 6 seater costs $86,500 not $77k like you said. I guess you are confused about the gas savings that Tesla includes on the order page? 2) at 28:50 you said the Model X price for 6 seat and you said that it qualifies for the EV tax credit. This is incorrect, none of the 3 row Model X qualify for the EV tax credit. Only the 5 seater with no 3rd row qualifies.

[@christianlozano6043]

I was just going to comment this exact details thanks. Big difference is you can lease an ev9 for under $500 while a model X lease will be over $1200.

[@shethjones4494]

That is significant info

[@trevorward9680]

Yes major flaw in the video.

[@OzzVidal]

Also she said UI. The vehicle has built in navigation which does pre condition. If you use apple car play or android auto which Tesla doesn't have than you don't have it.

[@dildaar.k1523]

+1 on the incorrect price mention. I

[@taoh780]

15:15 the Korean makes like to lock the charge port, and I think that's why some of the public connectors have broken lock tabs, because some people are probably pressing really hard on the release until the tab breaks. Double tap the unlock button on the fob or the driver side door and that should unlock the port.

[@OzzVidal]

Hyundai and kia have a setting to lock charger. This is to avoid someone unplugging while charging.

[@luisPcordeiro]

You need to close de doors, press the fob key to open the doors and the plug is unlocked. It's a security feature, but it can be confusing for new owners. EU EV9 here. In Europe the back seats all fold electrically

[@js3085]

At 28:30 Model X base with ONLY adding a Six Seat configuration is Not $77,000-It is $84,490 before order & destination fees. (Since I posted, Tesla raised the price of the X by $2000-Now it’s 86,490-base & only adding 6 seat configuration) Inflation!?!

[@zainag]

I just bought an EV9 and got significantly below MSRP. Like more than 12K, in that respect there is no price comparison. Also it's s a lot easier to source Kia parts than Tesla.

[@amandaadler1860]

The dealership network is a significant point. Any medium sized or bigger city should have a Kia or Hyundai dealership, making emergency repairs or service so easy. I live in a rural town with only ford, GM, and Stellantis dealerships, so i got an F-150 Lightning, I need to have a dealership nearby. Saw my first EV9 in the big city this weekend waiting to charge. Very pretty car.

[@jamesh1641]

Absolutely foolish.

[@Chris-ms8qz]

won't a new battery for Kia EV9 cost you like $50K?

[@zainag]

@@Chris-ms8qz why would a new battery cost anything? Just like my Tesla or any other electric car for that matter, there's at least a 10 year 100k warranty if something goes wrong.

[@saifullahakram5972]

@@Chris-ms8qzdepending on where you live it’s a 7 - 10 year warranty. Also over the past decade the cost of ev batteries have dropped … in 10 yrs when the ev 9 is out of warranty and in need of a new battery it would be cheaper. Also as a comparison I have an FJ Cruiser - last year at its 10 year service I had to fork out a lot of $$ for it as part of standard 10 yr servicing

Where I live the price difference is much larger and I think it will make the EV9 more appealing to a lot of people here. I live in Denmark where the price is approximately 43000 dollars more for the six seater Model X.

[@shethjones4494]

It's larger everywhere

[@kolorofanki]

Same in Poland 🤟

[@J26-e6g]

Too bad you didn’t get a GT model. I bought a GT Panthera grey and it is amazing! Actually getting about 320 miles range and 0-60 in under 4.5. GT also gets massaging seat. Deserves car of the year. Great review video. I too had the same problem pulling out the charger until I simply hit the door unlock. The Modelx has too many quirks and third row space problems, and costs way too much. Push the little star in the upper right of the climate and it makes it big, across the screen.

[@polofunk]

The EV9 is the Better Vehicle

[@frankoptis]

Yeah but the price point is too high for a KIA.

[@gregpalmer9949]

My favorite feature of the EV9 is the screen selected battery preconditioning feature. You do not need to use any navigation software. When you are about twenty minutes from the DC charger you want/hope to use you just push the start button. I have had a Kia Niro EV for four years. I sat with a salesman and talked over all the new features of the EV9. The climate control screen is in a odd place but you can move it to the bigger screen on the right if you are more interested in climate than the map.

[@R56Cooper]

There are decent lease deals with the EV9 (500/month, 0 down), price actually compares with Model Y--- can literally lease 3 EV9s vs 1 Model X lease (1500/month + 4k due at signing)🎉

[@JuanDavila]

Great review, just started watching your videos, love your family, thank you for sharing, nice to see the point of view of a Tesla owner. I have an EV9 like the one you tested, I've had a great experience so far, I actually charge L1 at home 😅, haven't installed a L2 connection yet, but there's a Walmart nearby where I can do DC fast charging for free, it charges super fast at around 200kw, takes me around 18 minutes most of the time to go from 20% to 80%. I've done a couple of long trips so far no issues at all. Great first EV.

[@Visualhead_Spacer]

your charging lock issue is user error... you have to set for security purposes how you wanted it unlocked. I set my EV6 on "unlock car from keyfob". Its about getting to know your car rather than using the same "functionality" as how Tesla does it. we all know Tesla does the weirdest things. FYI, EV9 nor any Tesla has the capability to go "350". EV9 is technically a 500-600v car has max 211kwh speed, other e-gmp cars can get 240kwh max. The new Porche Taycan or Macan and Lucid are probably the few can go 300... maybe cybertruck or hammer EV.

[@jamesh1641]

Have never had that problem filling up my car at a gas station.

[@FPA4]

The gull-wing doors may be great in the South, but living where snowfall and ice are a regular occurrence you will learn to abhor them...

[@geraltofrivian516]

Why the 6 seat Tesla Model X doesn’t fold is a huge oversight for families

[@BG-mw5pt]

they haven't figured out how to electrify a seat and make it fold at the same time. the x7 however...

[@JonathanRootD]

​@@BG-mw5ptEvery car maker has figured this out except Tesla.

[@PeterparkerSlaps]

They ran out of money developing the door lol

[@JonathanRootD]

Turning radius of ev9 is 20.3ft Model X is 20.4ft 😂

[@merodobson]

Not a single Electrify America 350w has given me anywhere close to that. I get about 220 max. The EV9 is fantastic, our infrastructure still needs work.

[@luisPcordeiro]

No cars support 350 yet (July 2024). I got 215 in my EV9 (in Europe). I had a EV6 before and I got 240 some times.

[@johanlittorin2765]

@@luisPcordeiro Porsche Taycan is close with real 320 or 270 on pre-facelifted cars.

[@BboySnake71]

I always go by percentage when driving my Tesla on road trips. Incredibly accurate for me.

[@monroe177]

Too bad Kia didn’t give you the GT-Line trim. The HUD and massaging seat are fantastic for road trips.

[@murray4794]

Coming out soon!

[@markgeller5900]

But more $$ ​@@murray4794

[@adam311835]

I'd LOVE to own a Tesla someday, but they are still too expensive for me 😥 I'm buying a Kia Niro PHEV this week, so I LOVED hearing the Kia driver assistance is very similar to Autopilot! I love that the Kia drivers assistance features are FREE!!!

[@jamesh1641]

too not to

[@adam311835]

@@jamesh1641 oops thank you so much!!!!

[@TriumphDoc]

Have a Plaid and love it. Bought wife EV9 Land via amazing deal on a lease. Will pay 19K for 24 months (renting the vehicle). The car is amazing for the price point (not MSRP). The seats are a joy, the drive is fantastic; and it is very very quick (0-60 in 4.4 secs). Yes, oddly enough, faster than the GT Line. Tesla makes very innovative cars and I love my Plaid, but I can’t see buying the X over the EV9. Thank you for the video however. Great job.

[@ranig2848]

The EV9 is nice. Tesla needs a longer Model Y for larger families. The X is awesome but too expensive and the FWD are cool and useful with kids but in many cases are less than ideal (I owned an X and now have a Y so have first hand experience). Tesla certainly need to extend the Model Y lineup - a longer one and an off road version. Doing so they’ll be able to sell more than 2m Model Y per year and open multiple markets.

[@mattblackwood7131]

I feel the same way, if they did a long wheel base Y by adding a 12" and filling it with batteries for longer range it would be a great option.

[@MyEthan1998]

Your oldest is so intelligent and well spoken! 👏 Main diff between the driver assistance systems are that Teslas autopilot and FSD are basically not reliant on road lines. Yes it does beep at you from time to time of it doesn't see lines but it never disengages

[@koryleach9660]

The X is only cool due to the gull wings. Everything else about the Kia other than the native navigation and frunk is better. I looked at both and chose the GT Line EV9 due to it being way better for our usage needs.

[@wittsdd]

Love the Kia, but agree on the UI and the charging. You just can’t beat what Tesla offers in those areas

[@d.pollard5962]

Nac's is coming to Kia, what would you think then. We have a M3 and a EV9. Love both!

[@shethjones4494]

For how much longer? They are opening up access to virtually every competitor

[@timbenson6468]

I don't like the HVAC being "hidden" behind the wheel either in my EV9. I have found that the plus in the upper right corner of that small screen opens up an HVAC super interface in the right screen. We just recently went on a 1,500 mile round trip to FL from Chattanooga, TN. The charging was a bit of an issue with EA being unreliable. We used EA because our purchase came with 1,000kw free charging on EA with a deadline to use within 3 years and why not use free fuel. We saw a peak of 218kw when charging but I believe I read that they have it capped at 210kw vs the 350kw you mentioned in the video (but clearly I saw it exceed that). We also have a Kia Telluride so the UI we have gotten used to and don't find it problematic, although WTF, the steering wheel controls are mirrored on my 2024 EV9 from my wife's 2023 Telluride!!! Great review and I felt like you had many good points. I definitely felt like the front and rear hidden storage was just enough to say it was there not to be very useful. I do absolutely love the drive feel of the EV9 and the lane assist is really good but it is a little bit more aggressive compared to our Telluride in the same mode. I think discussing miles/kw that the Kia shows on one of the screens would be easier direct comparison for range capabilities, assume that Tesla has that same information. I have seen as high as 3.2mi/kw and average 2.7mi/kw which would be 270-320 miles (possibly). To reiterate, I think the charging issue is a big deal for trips. I have a level 2 at home so that is likely the only time it will be an issue for us.

[@rogerf9613]

This was an EXCELLENT review! You guys touched on all the right points. Esp discussing reported mileage vs real world mileage. Great job!

[@trancetechkid]

As soon as Kia switches to NACS and fixes their shite in vehicle interface, it’s done. Tesla model X has less usable room for WAY more money. Our neighbor has an X, we have a 3 and an EV6 and our best friends have the EV9, I’ve seen them all and besides charging and dumb legacy auto crap, the Kia is a much more usable car for the money.

[@pranavid]

But does your Kia has the "Assisted Suicide Mode (a.k.a. FSD)"?

[@jamesh1641]

Ugh. What a group. Sounds like a LA neighborhood.

[@MrH786]

The NACS is expected to occur in Q4 of 2024. Also, the EV3 is coming soon too.

[@djtrackie]

I'm the dada of a toddler and one baby coming soon. EV9 owner, same color too but with the GTLine trim. I just want to say that your review was dead on accurate for everything! Hard to find someone that actually has the critical mind like me that points out things like the push button mute on the volume roller thing. So whoever's watching this, these guys are have a really accurate depiction of the car in real life scenario. Just want to mention one thing though, regarding the removal of the charging plug. All you had to do was click UNLOCK on the doors or on your key fob. It locks in your charger usually until you actually click unlock on your key or car. So while the doors are unlocked, the charger kinda auto locks after a while and you have to click the button to release it. FYI.

[@ItsKimJava]

Congrats on the new baby and thanks for your kind comments and suggestion!

[@markusw4715]

In Ireland Kia EV9, no brainer. EV9 86k, Model X 110k Nothing in the X is worth the 26k higher price

[@Treyshadow]

I drove both for 2 weeks each. In late 2024, the EV9 in the GT-Line trim surpassed the Model X in every way. With all the UI updates the EV9 was very easy to use and drive. The driver assist is very impressive.

[@dcbnyc]

you have to press unlock on your key to release the charge cable. it’s a safety thing that should be the first thing anyone tells you before giving you the keys to a KIA ev :)

[@brokeboy87]

I agree Tesla lost its Flare. The Kia Ev9 is a terrific alternative to a Tesla, but it needs minor tweaks to be more user friendly for the driver.

[@dildaar.k1523]

Looks like you don't understand how these cup holders work, you can make them smaller to fit smaller cups

[@Bigsargewaymo7]

So we have a Kia Sorento PHEV with three rows and we have a Tesla Model Y and the kids like riding in the Sorento much better because of all the room/Captains chairs. The Sorento is perfect for us because I can use it around town and never use gas because you have 30 mi of range. If we go for beach trips or something close to home we take the Model Y and because we have solar is free driving, however, because the Sorento is a PHEV, we take that on road trips/vacations, so ~5 times per year. and then we use it as a hybrid so we don't have to charge on road trips. That configuration works perfectly for us.

[@EvanPutranto]

To remove the charging cable on the EV9, all you have to do is click the unlock button, even if the car has already been unlocked. Surely you all know this. You don't need to use the emergency unlock.

[@ItsKimJava]

Did that many many times over.

[@luisPcordeiro]

​@ItsKimJava my experience in your exact scenario. You need to close the doors and lock and unlock

[@ArtIrwin]

You guys botched the pricing. The Model X only qualifies for the tax credit in the 5-seat configuration. The 7-seat and 6-seat version go up over $80k. The 2024 EV9 Land AWD is available in the mid-$70k range here in Austin, but it doesn’t qualify for the tax credit until early 2025. When leasing instead of purchasing, things change.

[@markvanderhelm922]

Once Kia can use Superchargers without an adapter the EV9 is the better value by far

[@SiuLeung]

I think best value is with the adapter. Then you can use both Tesla Superchargers and CCS2 (EA, Chargepoint, EVgo...etc)

[@shethjones4494]

It's a better value now

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Tesla's noise canceling is nothing but a noise maker. Everyone riding in our X hears a rumble with it on. I never use it.

[@Yanquetino]

Oooookay! Been waiting for this one! Happy Birthday to Laikyn! 🎂 Wish I could have been in the 6th seat on this trip. I agree that E-GMP vehicles are more comfortable. But it's also true that their frunks and under cargo storage bins are minimal. I have found, however, that it's actually rare that you have to fill them to the brim. Bummer with the Electrify America charger, but… it happens, all too often. I've found that, if a 350kW unit is down, a 150kW unit actually charges nearly as fast, because they're still pulling over 100kW at 80% -unlike Teslas, that drop to half that rate. Also, the slow rate using Magic Docks isn't telling the whole story. Yes, most E-GMP cars that I've recorded only hit 97 kW from a Supercharger, but… and this is important… they're still pulling all 97 kW when they hit 80%! NOT so with Teslas, which drop to around 50kW. Ergo, they charge nearly as fast. Oh… you frustrated me trying to unplug! The emergency release cable is so convenient; too bad you didn't know it was there. The navigation does seem more clunky, but I've found that it actually does a very good job, despite not having the "cartoon" images you're used to in the Tesla on the touchscreen. And the heads up display more than makes up for that, in my not-so-humble opinion. As for ADA, I much prefer the cruise control, lane keep, and lane changing in E-GMP more than Autopilot in my previous Model 3. I have to chuckle over Landon's and Liam's reactions. I mean, honestly, I bet they'd rather have their games and videos on their OWN separate phones and iPads than just one screen in the car that they have to share. Tell me I'm wrong!

[@ArcticBuck]

The Tesla does not have a cartoon navigation display. You’re thinking of the competitions inclusion of Apple CarPlay.

[@ArcticBuck]

The Tesla does not have a cartoon navigation display. You’re thinking of the competitions inclusion of Apple CarPlay.

[@JoeyVaracalli]

I wish they had done the ev9 by line trim which has recliners and massage chairs for me I have a back injury and would help on long hauls a lot

[@Abevlife]

I agree with reviewers about UI and charging effectiveness. But how much time do u spend on Ui? In the car most people set it once and forget it. Most used features are rith on your finger tips in Kia. You have apple car play and android Auto for you map convince. How many times do you keep changing settings and doing things in UI?

[@shethjones4494]

Ui is total user preference. Kia interface is generally positively reviewed and easy to use. I'm not surprised a tesla or apple user would complain, that seems to be par for the course for anything that is different. Also the complaints they listed about not being able to pre condition were based on using carplay because they claimed the built in nav was so terrible. I haven't heard that elsewhere and if you use the built in navigation charging info and preconditioning are included just like Tesla. If you choose not to use that nav you forego those capabilities. That's not a UI flaw

[@joyfullife9070]

Very nice people. Appreciate you guys awesome reviews!! Very polite yet honest.

[@ameyers67]

Love my Nero and EV6. Not one problem and they are so fast and quiet and actually have buttons for the AC and easy access to the freaking windshield wipers

[@bobbyr8071]

Man these people are really salty on Tesla since Tesla ended their referral program. Almost all “influencers” are bashing Tesla non-stop. 😂😂😂

[@chrisballard115]

Keep in mind, you could have used a ( Tesla Supercharger) on the Kia. They made that available beginning on this year..

[@김김-k5b1w]

Great to see honest review! I see that Kia and Hyundai have still far long way to go. But I hope two brands would make it.

[@binjones]

The falcon doors are also great when dealing with elderly family members for ease of access and exit.

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

Falcon doors are horrible!

[@wiredspeaker5658]

Fantastic point

[@Jambaman84]

The Tesla Model X 6 seater does not qualify for tax credit. It comes out to 86k after taxes, with free color and free tires. So there is definitely a large gap between prices if you compare 6 seater vs 6 seater.

[@aarontimbol]

Great point about how fast you can charge. Big factor

[@MrRealtalk84]

😂bonus footage was best part 😂. Thanks for the video. Did you all elect to go with the land vs the GT due to the additional range boost?

[@experiencex70]

I think just like disability spots you get fined should be something for EV spots when regular cars are not charging you will get fined.

[@geraltofrivian516]

Thank you for posting Kim! Love seeing the happy family!

[@TheJ1s]

Unfortunately Kia and Hyundai wouldn't be able to use the Tesla chargers most likely either end of summer or early fall if Elon don't fire more people from super charging stations.

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

Never use a Tesla charger,no matter what!!

[@stevelovesemmy]

Huh? Translation?

[@msbgone]

I gotta be honest, I love EV's, but your family moments are the best!

[@ItsKimJava]

Ahhh thank you. 😊

[@tabottietjen3186]

Happy to see you drinking Proud Source. My son in law and daughter started that company out of Boise, ID! He designed the bottle with the screw top lid. I tried car play in a new Rav4 and it sucked compared to the Tesla UI. I don't understand why people love it so much.

[@sunnykhemai6610]

EV9 all the way. Tesla is quickly losing market share as quality and reliability of their vehicles have gone down significantly, especially at this price point. We love our first generation EV9 and can't wait for the next!

[@j2jou]

Great Video, Only thing is that Model X with 6 seat configuration is 86,490 and not $77,000 as mentioned. Also it seems to that EV9 trim Land AWD Premium is closer to $67,090. So agree in a lot of your views but the pricing is almost 20k more and not a 7k difference

[@Micbemac]

Model X with 6 seats and Self-drive starts at $89,000 - EV9 tops out at $75,500 all in.

[@mysimon2003]

Yup! It always over promised and under delivered! 😂

[@greggjohnson5634]

The random walk in to town with the little kids a half mile because of the wait time to just get plugged in and then to charge is crazy to me.

[@Lofyne]

It's funny how you play spot an EV. I play that too with my wife and son here in Australia. Except since our car is a BYD, we only spot other BYDs, with different points for each model depending on how popular they are.

[@der-e-wolf]

The argguement of the charging network doesn't work for Europe, where you can use the SuC network with all Brands.

[@binjones]

You can put a bike rack on the back of the Model X

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

For what?Just dont buy one!

[@1meen1]

They know, but roof racks have more flexibility for other items

[@sugar8486]

but not a kayak

[@twosawyers]

I’m loving the KIA!

[@micaroth4]

something I haven't seen ANYONE talk about with the Kia is the lack of 'lock on exit' functionality. I can't believe they don't offer this feature on EV9. I came from Model 3/Y to EV9 and I keep forgetting to lock the doors!

[@pedrosousa8512]

The EV9 is the so much Better Vehicle for less money, and the GTline OMG I love it!!!

[@MTLJack]

Model X is like twice the price of a EV9 in Canada, not a very fair comparaison

[@guynoir4595]

Thanks so much for the 2 segments on the EV9. I agree with most of your comments but the unfortunately when it comes to the discussion on the price every review of a dealership based EV seems to ignore the reality of the out the door price. With the Tesla, I know almost exactly what the price is before I go pick up the car. I don’t have to endure the hours of negotiating that comes with buying through a dealership. $70K?, good luck trying to get that price. Talk to an owner and compare the out the door price please. The Tesla buying experience shines in that department. Love your channel! Keep up the good work!

[@shethjones4494]

But you failed to mention ev9 can be had for much less than MSRP while Tesla has fixed pricing

[@JonathanRootD]

You can easily get an EV9 for under MSRP. It doesn't take a lot of work just compare between dealers.

[@djtrackie]

also forgot to mention that a few months later, Tesla might significantly drop the MSRP on the car, making the car that YOU just bought worth less overnight.

[@MrZola1234]

The Ev 9 has twice the back area space as the x. It's not underneath but there is 2x the space.

[@samkeino6810]

The Model X with 6 seats is over 80k and NOT eligible for the tax credit

[@PluginDuo]

Glad this video is up. Maybe you can do a EV9 vs R1S. We've been looking for a bigger 7 seat. But the current state CCS is bit sketchy still

[@walkerdarin2003]

until non Telsas are native NACS, its a no go.

[@PluginDuo]

@@walkerdarin2003 can't wait!

[@JonathanRootD]

​@@walkerdarin2003just took our EV9 on a 4000 mile road trip from Washington State to Yosemite, Grand canyon, Zion etc. most ccs chargers worked great a few we had to switch to a different charging stall but nothing that delayed our trip. Very impressed, I must be lucky?

[@zainag]

@@walkerdarin2003 Why? You can get a $200 adapter to charge a non NACS vehicle (Ford and some others give away these adapters to people purchasing their cars). Regardless, many superchargers have "magic dock" so non Teslas can charge as well.

[@kaijen2688]

Love your videos as they tend to be real world use. Most people travel with their families and this gives a great real world example of what to expect.

[@ItsKimJava]

Thanks for watching

[@BrianJoslyn]

💣video, Kim and PJ! Personally... After some time, the only reason I'd ever want an X is the falcon wing doors. I don't even want an S anymore. There are so many more reasons I'd prefer a 3 and even more I'd prefer a Y. A Cybertruck would be great, but more expensive. I'd also buy a Roadster, but would most prefer the Signature series. There are other EVs I'd buy, but I also prefer to be able to use the Tesla superchargers over any other charger while away from home. If I were to buy a Kia then I'm still preferring the Sportage. H🤠WDY to the kidz!

[@jamesrabon4355]

The charging experience for EVs still seems pretty terrible for road trips. All of these videos convince me you need an EV for around town and one ICE for road trips that don't require so much waiting around.

[@bote2001]

No matter what's the review against Tesla there still running well up to 400T miles with low maintenance plus no battery change yet how bout the others like Kia, Hyundai & etc

[@jackpaul7102]

I'm so close to getting an EV9 for my family (2 kids still in car seats) as a strict upgrade from our sedan, but given the economy, high interest rates, and surprisingly expensive true cost of ownership, this is really risky. A KIA vehicle being nearly a $750.00 per month lease is insane in today's economy. Not to mention cost of L2 charger installation and elevated insurance costs.

[@EcoThink2024]

Will be an amazing upgrade you won't regret. 😊😊 Idk why they Kia hasn't talked about next year's model.

[@williamcampbell435]

BIG mistake. Get a Tesla.

[@d.pollard5962]

Follow out of spec and Kyle will tell you where to buy a Kia and not get overcharged

[@OzzVidal]

I noticed insurance for Tesla is much higher. Also verify if Kia had promotions like Hyundai where they give you a free charger plus some money for install.

[@EcoThink2024]

@@OzzVidal I think Kia are giving $9000 customer cash which expires on July 8, 2024.

[@laurakang1992]

May I ask which trim and color this is?

[@ItsKimJava]

Detailed review here kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpmTpaqLo9hgirMsi=0auN7HqDewd-R5Rg

[@kenmcclow8963]

I thought that was you guys at the Leavenworth Electrify America, but I wasn’t sure, so I didn’t ask. I was in the ID.4 that was in the one working charger. That was the first and last EA on my road trip to Wisconsin and it was the only one that was being worked on. Three times I had to move to a different plug, but this year was so much better than last year’s trip because there were no chargers working at only 32kW. I mentioned that Tesla Superchargers also have the same issue at some places along I-90 in Montana where one plug wasn’t working and there was a line of cars waiting for the other three. For comparison on this trip I never saw another car at an EA station until I was in Iowa after Leavenworth. I have been interested in the EV9 Land mostly for cargo and it has a trailer hitch with the same tow rating as Model X. My issue with X since I mostly look at used ones 2020 or newer is the second row not folding unless you find a five seat. Most of the EV9’s have been discounted by $8-10k, but aren’t eligible for the tax credit unless you lease until the Georgia factory is going. Tesla has the best route planning software. I can’t speak to Kia’s, but with VW, I pretty much take the distance and add 60 miles of buffer to make it to the charger. The VW goes crazy at 20% and starts routing to other chargers than my target which is added stress. With my Tesla, it told me what percentage I would arrive with and unless there was a headwind I would meet, or exceed that. So with the Supercharger network and the route planning, I would lean Tesla, but Kia is making an impressive car and they seem to be pretty aggressively priced

[@ItsKimJava]

It was nice chatting with you and thanks for tuning in!

[@MikeSTGL]

Thanks for the review, very informative.

[@ItsKimJava]

Glad it was helpful!

[@geolykos]

waiting 30mins to charge your car, then going to another one and waiting again...gotta love EVs 😂

[@MrRaitzi]

Charging in Europe is not a issue because all use same standard. All EVs can charge in Tesla network if they want.

[@raulsuazo5015]

Rented a kia niro and couldnt disconnect the power cable. Took me awhile to figure it out

[@volcalstone]

9:31 Kim Java being Kim Java. 😊 For smaller families the X but larger ones the EV9 for sure. The roof rack like what your husband said. I would take the EV9 for sure. Nice family btw! Edit: Nice that you included the kids opinions at the end cause to me that matters a lot as well. I would say for younger families storage space is key. Once the kids get older then you won't need to lug around strollers anymore. The 3rd row space on the EV9 is bigger tho and not the same. The charging network will get better in the Kia so that shouldn't be a deal breaker imo. I personally have an EV6 GT but test drove the EV9 GT-line and loved it.

[@ItsKimJava]

😭

[@ericjung02]

One thing missed is OTA. Tesla differentiates itself from others by improving its software over time.

[@rogerthat24]

I charge at home every day and love the look of the EV9. I'm planning on getting one sooner or later to replace my EV6.

[@markgeller5900]

This looks like the future now. Lots of space, prices in reality.

[@gregorysims3697]

Great video. I think you were very fair in your evaluations. One question. Does the Kia get regular software updates that often add features? This week my X got an update which opens the front automatic doors more fully. It was great. It also made the AC work better and quieter. Real nice.

[@storm4710]

Wait turning radius should be about the same(from memory) Edit Kia EV9 12.4m Tesla Model X 12.3m Rivian R1S 13.2m

[@kimle01]

Need to wait for Kia to fix the 400v up scaling with Tesla SC. Currently 84kw is not cool for road trip.

[@zainag]

800V equipment is actually more expensive and efficient. Tesla should move UP to 800V charging like Porsche, Lucid and (weirdly) Ki/Hyundai. But it requires more cost which is likely why we will never see it in our Teslas.

[@BB-eb8lq]

Awesome review, thanks!

[@bigrndahouse]

Leasing the EV9 will save you tens of thousands when comparing the Tesla 6 seater as well.

[@GASilverHunter]

So the GT line of this car can be had for $57k after cash back and dealer incentives.m. At that price this is a no brainer over the Model X.

[@srqnate]

Charging network and interface with Tesla still has the edge.

[@rog351]

Good video ….. just to say your oldest son is a very glib speaker and appears to be very intuitive and very smart. You should get his opinion about vehicles more often.

[@bryanbair6508]

I drive a model 3 (started driving EV back in 2013 Nissan leaf), time to trade by wife’s bmw x5 and looking at going EV, but only considering those with 3rd row. I think some of the functional things are nice on ev9, but charging/ map up/ and I think the design will get dated quickly. Considered rivian r1s, but the efficiency is horrible. Considering model x, just not sure on 3rd row space. Hoping to test drive this week.

[@jimlong3216]

I wish Tesla had the door handles. The handles would really help me get out (I'm 73)

[@mysimon2003]

1. Wife is always right 2. When wife is not right, check #1 😅