Explaining higher-satiety eating

Have you heard about higher-satiety eating? Do you have questions about if it's right for you or about the science supporting it? In this video, I review some of the common questions we have seen since releasing our higher-satiety content.
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[@heidiyamami3884]

I love how compassionate Dr. SCHER is!!!!

[@robinbeers6689]

I've met him at a couple of LowCarb conferences and he really is that much of a dear human being.

[@billmitchell1955]

I lost 60 pounds in 5 months on a ketovore diet. Never hungry and eat two meals a day and try not to have any snacks. These foods fill you up.

[@billb5732]

Yes. If we think about what nutrients we _must_ consume, it's mostly protein, a little bit of EFAs, and electrolytes. It turns out that high satiety is synonymous with high nutrition. Meat, eggs, small fatty fish, maybe some cheese for calcium. Supplement electrolytes. Everything else is optional calories.

[@therandlecycle1337]

Perfectly said

[@carnivoroussarah]

Hmmm. Nah. Sure they have the nutrients but not in proper ratios. Many carnivores are reporting histamine intolerance due to zinc and copper ratios being off. Carnivore is heavy zinc, low copper. This is a problem! Copper is needed for DAO production that breaks down histamine!

[@cw9007]

Would that provide adequate amounts of vitamin c?

[@billb5732]

@@cw9007 Probably, but unproven. It appears that vitamin C requirements are reduced when one does not eat plants, and there are small amounts of C in meat, especially organ meats. in 1930, Stefansson stayed locked in to a hospital room for a year. He ate muscle meat, eggs, butter, bone marrow, brain, and fat. No signs of any nutrient deficiency, including scurvy. Other carnivores have eaten mostly muscle meat and eggs for years without scurvy or other signs of deficiency. You could supplement acerola cherry if you're concerned about it.

[@cw9007]

Thanks. I was wondering whether one would need to consume organ meats but, like you say, I've heard of people only eating muscle meat and doing ok.

[@cassieb1860]

This sounds like the P:E Diet! Dr. Naiman’s way of eating has been my sweet spot. I tried keto and even the carnivore diet and didn’t feel well on higher fat. I also don’t feel well on a high carb diet, and my blood work was crap. High protein, moderate fat, high fiber carbs/veg has been the sweet spot. I feel energetic and the weight is coming off. Personally, I think this is the way that healthy humans probably ate through out our history.

[@therandlecycle1337]

It’s the taurine in meat...protein is the magic ;)

[@chingonbass]

it is. Dr Naiman is working with this dude

[@robinbeers6689]

The ultimate high satiety diet for me is carnivore with an occasional avocado or some berries a couple of times in season. I don't buy the idea of fiber being high satiety. Fiber to me is just bloat inducing. I think a lot of people are so conditioned to eat fiber that they can't distinguish between actual satiated fullness and bloating.

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

Interesting! That may be me.

[@hunterinfected6]

Fiber is undigestible matter due being made of cellulose. Yes the right word is bloat, it’s not true satition, your digestive tract doesn’t even digest it, it’s just a hard mesh to make compact turds lol

[@vandpiben]

I had the same thoughts when i went carnivore. But, its not fiber etc, its the grains. Cut out all grains and youre good. I highly recommend you to include potatoes. To me, potatoes filled the role i was craving on carnivore. Absolutely NO boosting, i have been struggling with boosting all my life and finally it all came together. Grains are shit for you, but in every food on the market.

[@robinbeers6689]

@@vandpiben I agree that potatoes are less bad for you than grains but that still doesn't mean they are good. Way too many carbs and too few nutrients. I would rather skip the potato and have seconds on the meat.

[@stevec3872]

As a young man back in 1975 after I graduated college I went to work at my city's small zoo and we had all the animals on a diet, not to lose weight but what we would feed them in order for them to maintain optimal health. I look at keto that way, as a dietary lifestyle choice to maintain optimal health. Yes, you will likely lose weight but at some point that will end.

[@isabellelee2658]

That's how I see it also. A proper human diet like a zoo would do if we were so unfortunate as to live in a zoo.

[@cassieb1860]

It is odd, isn’t it, that we will work our pets, show animals and live stock feed to have a certain outcome that we desire? Have a working/show dog or horse? Then we need to feed them correctly to keep them in top competitive form. Want to fatten an animals before harvest? We have optimal feed for that! I always remember Dr Eades video on his research on how to fattening cows. It is the equivalent to the SAD. Some how we humans forget about our food and it’s desired outcome.

[@mshklh2099]

What is SAD buddy

[@victorycall]

@@mshklh2099 SAD = standard American diet

[@lauraezeanishealthyliving9644]

I think there is such an emotional attachment to eating habit/diet that people find it very difficult to understand that there is not one size fits all. Especially when people struggled for a long time with their eating habits and then finally finds a diet that works for them they will only see that diet like the one that everyone should follow yo achieve what they have achieved. It became an emotional attachment to the diet rather then the diet itself.. people chill out, relax and undestand that we are all different humans 😘

[@Hansolo2048]

Thankfully, when I was growing up, my parents fed me high quality foods, then when I could choose and eat my own foods, when I was older, I now always eat healthy, it's natural for me. The younger years in life are the most crucial to eating healthy high satiety foods, since your microbiome is still developing. The healthier your microbiome, the less cravings for any food, especially junk food.

[@martykendall5111]

great work Brett! good to see more people talking about satiety these days!

[@deborah2592]

Love the tone of the video, and the science behind it. I never miss one of Dr. Scher's videos...learn so much from them.

[@truthseeker9958]

The hedonic food for me is lightly salted pistachio nuts, I just can’t stop eating them

[@sanautin]

For me, it's any nuts. But yeah, pistachios......

[@AzaleaBee]

Yup. I recently switched from unsalted pistachio nuts to salted pistachio nuts just to maintain my weight (basically to slow down weight loss).

[@rjreddenbaker4351]

75 lbs down so far in 4 months eating just meat. Waist has shrunk 13 inches from 45 to 32! High satiety meals are the way for sure. I eat one 1500-2000 calorie meal once a day around 5pm-6pm and am pretty much never hungry, unless I get into the beverages with artificial sweeteners. Something about them seems to make me hungry sooner. I think it's probably the artificial sweetener causing a Ghrelin surge but I'm no medical expert. I just fight through the 10 minutes of hunger but I notice I don't get them on days where I stick to coffee/tea and water for beverages.

[@reaper4640]

Diet Doctor is such a great resource !!

[@ivanvinjar8960]

Hi, I am following a keto diet or at least I try to, but still, i must say, that this kind of informations i find very, very useful. Great job!

[@elstennapel]

Very enlightening, thank you!

[@sanautin]

Excellent presentation. Keto / ketovore is working for me, but this is certainly interesting.

[@flyingsaucer1268]

no matter what.....the BP-coffee is a "staple" in my keto diet ;-)

[@nonenone6357]

Great video. One thing I don't agree with is giving up the high hedonic foods. Psychology plays a huge role in diet. Eating what one wants is very important. We don't only want these because they taste good but also because they remind us of childhood sweets. I grew up in a poor country, very traditional, no fast foods. We ate lots of fruits, vegetables, and fermented foods. But in the evening, we always had fried potatoes and fried meat. We had that every single evening. I turned 25 and moved to the US. I remember visiting my boyfriend's family. His cousins were all cheerleaders. I say that because cheerleaders care more about how they look than the average person. I remember everybody was looking at me because they had never seen such clear skin and shiny hair. So fried foods in a traditional country is not the same as fried foods in the US. Eating fried foods in the evening helped us recover from the hard day and relax in time for sleep. Probably thats why french people can eat a lot and not get fat, just because its called food, it doesnt mean is the same.

[@MarmaladeINFP]

I do higher-satiety eating. It's mostly strict carnivore with an emphasis on fatty animal foods. But I also do it with OMAD where the one meal means all I can eat within a few hour period. I can down a lot of food in that time, sometimes several pounds. Then I fast for the rest of the day and feel fine. It's certainly not a low-calorie diet. The main thing is it's nutrient-dense. I don't think it's a coincidence that nutrient-dense foods are also satiating, as the essential nutrients are all found in fatty animal foods.

[@rainermaelger4726]

Danke

[@locoemutwo4872]

timely, thank you

[@denisehite6953]

Great information!!

[@kerilockwood7819]

The issue of fibre raises its head again. Do we need or do we not need that is the question?. Many of your guests disagree on this one Brett.

[@robinbeers6689]

Yep, I don't buy that part. Otherwise it is a sound theory. It's basically carnivore/ketovore without the fiber aspect. I don't see any benefit to adding fiber to my mix of animal foods plus occasional avocados or low sugar fruits.

[@kerilockwood7819]

@@robinbeers6689 I just wish they could reach a consensus. Maybe once again it comes down to personal tolerance.

[@robinbeers6689]

@@kerilockwood7819 Also, I think there are a lot of assumptions being made here. "Fiber fills you up", is not a medically sound fact, it's a conventional wisdom trope. Nobody ever really studies it because it is assumed to be true. I think fiber gives you a temporary feeling of fullness (which is really just bloating) not real satiety.

[@kerilockwood7819]

@@robinbeers6689 yes, I tend to agree

[@eenee10]

This how I’ve been eating lately. Opting for highly satiating foods, mainly vegetables and animal protein while limiting my carb intake. It’s been the one “diet” that I’ve been able to stick to because it’s not very limiting compared to keto. I tried Keto and lost a significant amount weight but I just couldn’t stick to it because I craved fruits and vegetables. Good to know the diet doctors recommend this way of eating too.

[@majipoorcat]

How I eat low carb changes. At first it was protein,high fat, salads, some berries 2 meals a day. Then I started cutting the fat down. Then started cutting the low carb vegetables down. Always watch my sugar intake. For me low carb is a changing way of eating. I eat to be healthy and thus I lost weight. But unless you eat whatever you want, whenever you want, how much you want, all “diets” are restricting. Vegan, vegetarian, kosher, Mediterranean, carnivore, low fat, ornish, Atkin. Each person has to do what they can. It was hard for me not eating so many vegetables let alone fruit. But I feel better not so mostly I don’t.

[@abejaamarilla4961]

Si los he visto y agradezco mucho las ideas en su pagina y todo el contenido informativo, es una gran ayuda..Seguimos en la lucha con bajar de peso.. Gracias.

[@twccoach3750]

I love this!❤

[@maksimsamardzic5808]

Great video 🙌

[@Sara-mr1hs]

Sounds great! I'd like to fit this into my keto diet. Started keto six weeks ago. First, I dropped 2kg water weight. Then I GAINED 3kg in, I suppose, FAT!!! Feeling all fluffy 😵 I eat less than 20 carbs but around 2500 kcal a day. So I need to reduce my calories but still manage to stay satisfied!

[@steph6197]

Higher fat works for me.

[@michelesteward5170]

Me too

[@sugarcloud5521]

I love keto so much but always end up with keto rash so I'm going to give this a try and see how I go! :)

[@dietdoctor]

This guide may be helpful! www.dietdoctor.com/keto-rash-people-itch-low-carb

[@Hansolo2048]

I go at least some days 16 hours without eating. Damn it feels good eating again when you go that long without eating.

[@alexmorgan3435]

The problem is carbs and sugar which you got to right at the end. Any diet as long as it is low in carbs and sugar is going to be good for you.

[@carnivoroussarah]

I eat a lot of processed sugar and still maintain my weight. Its about calories and eating nutrient rich foods too.

[@alexmorgan3435]

@@carnivoroussarah Just because you eat a lot processed sugar and maintain your weight doesn't mean you are healthy!!!! What does maintaining your weight mean? Do you weigh 400lbs??? Nutrition is and ISN'T about eating calories. This is the old school nutritional thinking, calories in equal calories out, eat less move more, that has got so many people fat and obese. A Calorie is simply a unit of energy end of. It does not indicate a food's nutritional value. Did you not understand what he was saying about foods that have high levels of satiety eg protein and healthy fats? Sugar and carbs do NOT do this. They are like addictive drugs you just eat more and more and more, and are not satiated. You'll end up ultimately with T2 diabetes and all the other health problems that diabetes causes.

[@tanakaobi]

So true, if people just would understand this...

[@wandaraby5971]

I had to go on a carnivore diet to get my blood pressure down. Keto did not bring it down. I’m also losing weight.

[@carnivoroussarah]

Probably need more potatoes honestly. I have the salt gene so mine is high usually. Since eating way more potassium (medium potato has a full 1g of potassium) from potatoes, 6 or more per day, my bp is now normal!

[@therandlecycle1337]

Eggs and steak

[@pointshealthcoaching8474]

It's a great concept and it sounds like you're moving towards carnivore. Yay...... carnivore has been around for long time & that's enough "evidence base" for me...

[@jaypee525]

Steady now, it's only about 3.5 million years so let's not do anything crazy.

[@cassieoz1702]

Nope, that's not what I see. The stuff about increasing 'low calorie density, high fiber' foods is all about the veg

[@cassieoz1702]

@Dust Storm I know that, idiot, no informed person could miss that. My reply was aimed at the original comment about DD seeming to move towards carnivore and, if the writer had actually watched the clip, that's not what they were on about. Veg (carbs in general) is not essential but nevertheless, not detrimental to everyone. Even the fossil evidence says we did eat plant matter sometimes and some human colonies ate a lot of it

[@AannshaJones]

Thank you for this video. You mention a good amount of protein is between 80-100g. Is that per meal or per day?

[@cassieoz1702]

Per day

[@Kumulmeskis]

Per day. I’ve been eating loads of protein for the last year and I had to cut down a little, because that made me feel so tired! I was tired without any reason and could not understand why. Sluggish, low energy. And only now that I listened to some more podcasts on protein I realised, that 220g or more of protein per day might be actually too much for me and that I need to reintroduce more carbs. I think my problem is being fixed.

[@wandaraby5971]

I had to go to eating carnivore to get my blood pressure to go down. I am losing weight also

[@alexmorgan3435]

So you previously said.

[@sarah2go]

Strangely, when I transitioned to carnivore, my blood pressure increased, so after 4 months on carnivore I am gradually adding in carbs such as avocados and above ground vegetables in the hope that my blood pressure will return to normal

[@carnivoroussarah]

@@sarah2go Carnivore usually has too much salt and always too little potassium to balance it out. Focus on potatoes. They are our natural food. We have eaten some starchy tuber all throughout our history to give us the precious potassium and also fuel our bodies for a long time. Russet are best. I love adding coconut oil to them, gives them a very interesting flavor.

[@kenphillips6234]

Can you do a show on keto not working for some people and why? Do hormones work differently in different people?

[@therandlecycle1337]

Focus on meat and eggs, not “fat” as a goal.

[@tobygoodguy4032]

Whatever macro combination you choose, the secret is the eating frequency. If you can discipline yourself to OMAD (1 meal a day), the positive effects within 3 months are remarkable. 🤠

[@redepatestodialo]

Diet is the right word bc in ancient greek means the way you eat and live.

[@peaceful3250]

True but meanings change over time and these days most people think of diet as restrictive rather than improved lifestyle.

[@birgitk6518]

I really have to do something about getting the satiety from eating food, cus I can eat a lot!! Like a lot, I feel I don’t get this kind of hunger killer satiety from my meals. Feel like have to go back to slightly lower carb, I already eating quite a high protein but still I don’t get this full and I get hungry. Although I am able to maintain my weight very successfully. I don’t eat processed food and very rarely eat outside.

[@k9rescuer934]

I really appreciate all the information you guys put out. I know you are not able to give medical advice…..having said that I’m struggling to find direction as so much seems to be mostly concerned with weight loss. I’m 5’ 5” weigh around 125 -130 up from 119……I speed walk at least 5 miles a day and was shocked to hear I’m pre-diabetic. My downfall is bread…..how do I zone in on the right way to reduce my diabetic risk and get rid of some belly fat? Totally understand if you can’t point me in the right direction…..

[@dietdoctor]

This guide may be helpful for you! www.dietdoctor.com/diabetes

[@evamaynard3021]

Why are you trying to lose weight? 5'5 and 125-130 is frieken perfect!

[@evamaynard3021]

I see the pre-diabetes part....yeah, you have to let go of the bread, white pasta and rice, if you eat those. Start there then work on switching sweet potatoes for white if you eat white potatoes. You can bring the potatoes back but first you need to flush out all that insulin raising stuff

[@k9rescuer934]

@@dietdoctor Thank you 😊

[@k9rescuer934]

@@evamaynard3021 My goal is health not weight loss per se. I hardly ever eat potatoes, I eat fruit and not a lot of processed food. The bread I eat is made of flour, salt and water, no added sugars. Thanks for the reply.

[@valerius9751]

could you make a video talking about whether or not artificial sweeteners increase hunger? I swear I have a lot more cravings when I drink diet soda (as opposed to water)

[@dietdoctor]

Here is our guide to sweeteners. Some artificial sweeteners do affect blood sugar which can affect hunger. www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/keto/sweeteners

[@ajc2208]

Makes a lot of sense, and sounds promising.

[@cassieoz1702]

Still no mention of the implications of higher protein information those if us living with cancer

[@johnjustice8478]

Brett, this is nothing new. For instance, I, myself, have been practicing higher satiety eating for a while. Whenever I feel hungry, I grab some food and climb a hill, sit at the top and eat. By the time the meal's over, I'm full and satisfied. The secret is climbing the highest hill. The height of the hill will determine your satiety

[@lovelypeaches4807]

I always have beef with avocado that makes me feel full for too long lol

[@zerocarbdoc]

Hi there, is this channel for individuals and patients or physicians?

[@nancy9478]

I think it can be useful for both. Docs Shawn Baker, Ken Berry and Anthony Chaffee are worth a look too.

[@panther36]

I keep coming back to this way of eating. The other way of increased sugar is just not working.

[@frostfox1208]

Change name from “Diet Doctor” to nutrition Doctor?

[@astorybookfinish5055]

Is the 1.6/kg average recommendation per meal or per day?

[@dietdoctor]

That is per day. You can read more in this guide. www.dietdoctor.com/satiety

[@keto-rl2ce]

Still need to actively address how higher satiety eating plan for ppl who are already Type 2 Diabetic. Eating high satiety plant-based beans & legumes add a lot more carbs daily than on my current, low carb food choices. Can you please address this directly. The Diet Dr blog section on diabetes needs better cross referencing with the newer satiety blog section.

[@dietdoctor]

You can certainly eat a keto higher-satiety diet to maximize blood sugar control.

[@keto-rl2ce]

@@dietdoctor Yes, but my specific question is about eating plant-based beans on a keto diet? The amount of net carbs per serving seem too high to incorporate. Can you elaborate?

[@ArtU4All]

I switched to 1 hard boiled eggs from 2 fried in butter. But started eating butter on a bread. Also have gone much more careful with cheese. Thank you.

[@TerriblePerfection]

You're better off with the 2 eggs in butter. Bread has no value.

[@carnivoroussarah]

@@TerriblePerfection Whole grains like oatmeal are very advantageous though. I agree, bread is useless and makes me bloat (gluten intolerant).

[@TerriblePerfection]

@@carnivoroussarah Whole grains are a marketing scam, like fiber. Grains are starvation food ("let them eat cake").

[@rashie]

👍👍

[@yvonnemurray1253]

I just joined, like the APP

[@christopherellis2663]

High Society Dining?

[@Cynthia-wp6bf]

Funny 😂

[@ad-ross]

Beef and starch fills me up. Beef alone has me craving sugar too much.

[@wingandhog]

I need to study the metric system so I can calculate my macros correctly 🤔

[@chazwyman8951]

OMAD with Keto. Zero processed food. I don't count calories. I just live better and have dropped my weight to comfortable levels.

[@MarijkeWillemsen990]

Keto IS high satiety eating!

[@kurakuson]

I get full/completely satisfied eating a baked potato with butter and sour cream; a big potato. But noooo! not suppose to have that amount or kind of starch; nothing white?

[@ChristianHiroseRomeoGraham]

2 most satiating diets are carnivore and Atkins. Nothing comes even close.

[@saude4437]

Sounds similar to PE diet from Ted Naiman.

[@dietdoctor]

You're right! www.dietdoctor.com/dr-ted-naiman-to-help-hone-higher-protein-options-for-better-weight-loss

[@jimmysixx7259]

You get hungry for 2 reasons, lack of energy and lack of nutrition. So the most satiety diet is the diet with the most nutritious food and the lowest insulin level so you can get all of the energy from your fat storage 24/7.

[@Johneseed]

Title was good title? When you kept turning to low fats and higher fibre you lost me and you turned to try and sell you ideas to the whole population. I eat high fat and high protéine from the animal kingdom and use zero fibre as it just leaves you constipated. Over 3 years with animal based and OMAD and longer fasts when I am feeling it.

[@carnivoroussarah]

Fiber doesn't constipate me. If I don't eat fiber, I get constipated. We are all different!

[@Kumulmeskis]

If I don’t eat fibre and only high fat, I immediately get diarrhea as I have no gallbladder.

[@judymckay59]

All the definitions I have seen suggests satiety is both a feeling of being pleasantly full, and satisfied. It is therefore a human ‘state’, or perhaps more accurately the interaction of a human and food. Is it 100% physiological? I doubt it, and believe there is also an important psychological component. So I feel concerned with what seems like an attempt to objectify satiety, and claim it as a property of food itself. Haven’t we got to be very concerned with how foods ‘suit’ people, and encourage that individual learning? And to consider the complex psychology involved in food addiction and eating disorders? I am doubtful about a land grab for the label ‘satiety’ when satiety can be achieved in m any different ways for different people.

[@DonnaLHaney]

The good ol' ZoneDiet! 30% of calories from protein spread throughout the day, balanced with HIGH fiber carbs from VEGETABLES.

[@heidikindon5182]

Most of the protein we eat doesn’t get burned for energy- that’s actually quite a toxic state for the body- so the calories from it are not ever correct. We use it for building and repair. Same with fat. The only macro that goes purely to calories is carbohydrate fuel.

[@DonnaLHaney]

@@heidikindon5182 I have been eating this way for 3 years with ideal results as to weight and blood sugar control. I was vegan for 7 years prior and became prediabetic.

[@heidikindon5182]

@@DonnaLHaney I’m so glad to hear you’re healing from veganism! 🥳

[@Robinedghill]

Ketovoire is working when keto alone left me hungry and unsatisfied.

[@Chris90.]

8:42 ummmm, portato chips are 57% calories coming from fat, and french fries are at least 59% calories coming from fat. not carbs. people overeat those because when you dehydrate a perfectly HEALTHY carb like, a potato, it loses water, fiber, weight, and volume. fry them in pure fat and you have a much hyper-palatable food that's super light in weight, energy dense, and not filling as opposed to a regular potato. so no, its not the carbs that are the problem.

[@carnivoroussarah]

Potatoes are amazing. I'm Irish, so I eat at least 6 of them a day! Love potatoes. They keep me skinny, calm, blood pressure in check so I can eat as much salt as I want (I have the salt gene), full, energized, with no crashes (unless eaten alone). Love me some lean sirloin steak with them and a big huge romaine salad with my homemade dressing (olive oil, apple cider vinegar with the mothers, lemon juice, oregano, salt, pepper, bit of cayenne, and one egg yolk all mixed together. Its my own recipe!)

[@Chris90.]

@@carnivoroussarah ohh ill have to try the dressing recipe, thanks!

[@Chris90.]

@Dust Storm umm, so?? all food elicits an insulin response in normal human physiology. it's 2022, can we grow up now from our 'keto religiosity" and step out from our echo chamber for a second? there's nothing poisonous about potatoes. stop with your fear-mongering.

[@Chris90.]

@Dust Storm oh you're carnivore, that makes even more since then explaining your dogmatic fear-mongering rationale.

[@carnivoroussarah]

@@Chris90. Absolutely! Its easy and fun to make. If you have kids, they'd have a blast making it! I wish my parents did such fun things with me as a child. But oh well, I make it with the kids I babysit. They love to cook because of me, parents love it. One girl even started helping her mom in the kitchen and made the recipe on her own! Kids are so smart, we don't give them the freedom to learn and experiment! Anyways, tangent. Hope you like it. Tell me any variations you come up with!

[@Ecclesiastes9-10GlorytoGod]

I'm not doing keto - I'm scared of it because of the fat... I'm just lowering carbs - actually some days - NO carbs. I drink water to keep from getting too hungry - oddly enough, that seems to help. I have to give up the evil carbs to get my A1c lowered.

[@nonibbs]

Don't be scared of the fat, its not a way of eating where you have to eat chunks of butter( unless you are the type who wants to eat fat bombs, I don't). I just eat the fat if it naturally occurs in what I am eating, but I don't add it. There are all sorts of Keto approaches, what works is best, and the measure of "what works" is how long you can keep doing it. Keep up the good work!

[@candacewithana4929]

You need fat. Fat is how you absorb vitamins. I eat about 70 grams of fat and 120 grams of protein with very little carbs.

[@uaebifvideo5472]

We are going in circles here...don't you think ??

[@ivettesantana4319]

But vegetables are highly hedonic to me lol Now carnivore is becoming hedonic. 😆

[@lisagayhart2482]

Yep eat meat

[@loisweinsaft2894]

Way too complicated. Even your language makes little sense. Higher satiety - no obvious meaning or pronunciation; lower energy dense - it took me a while to figure out that you mean high fiber or high water content; hedonic - what? most of us don't know what you mean which I think are sweet carbs. And grams and kilos mean nothing to Americans. I think you've created a clunky solution where there wasn't a problem. What percentage of your members or audience complained about keto (which used to be called low carb which used to be called Atkins). Keto was simpler language. I would appreciate an easier explanation with easy language. I think you mean keto with less fat.

[@sabby123456789]

Ketogenic diets can be excessive in fat and raise triglycerides. This is also a problem with high carbohydrate diets. The excess carbohydrates get turned into triglycerides. When a ketogenic diet is high in saturated fat from butter, coconut oil, and animal fat, your LDL particles can increase. When a ketogenic diet is high in omega-6s from nuts and seeds, it can suppress your immune system, cause cancer, and inflame your arteries. Even children on a ketogenic diet to treat epilesy using olive oil had an increased amount of triglycerides. If you eat more fat than you can burn, they will get stored as body fat and linger as triglycerides. This can cause insulin resistance and diabetes. Calorie restriction regardless of eating window is needed to allow the body to use up body fat, organ fat, and triglycerides. And to maintain caloric balance, satiety is crucial so that you do not keep thinking about food. It's like drinking water. If you are thirsty, drink water, not sweetened beverages. Once you quench your thirst, your body will shut down its thirst signals so you do not overdrink.

[@heidikindon5182]

No, excess carbohydrate increases insulin demand, creating massive inflammation. This is what drives triglyceride production to try to smooth over the roughened inflamase places in our arteries. Carbs don’t ‘turn into’ triglycerides.

[@Kumulmeskis]

I very much agree with what you’ve said.

[@TimoRajala]

I think the key point is omega 6/linoleic acid. It is essential, but only in very small amounts. In big/unnatural amounts it is pro oxidative, pro inflammatory, toxic and nutrient deficient. Biggest problem is the vegetable oils. Search youtube for Chris Knobbe for great presentations about seed oils.

[@TimoRajala]

Also, almost all olive oils are diluted with cheap seed oils. It’s an easy way to make more profit. Even pure olive oil contains a relatively high amount of omega 6.

[@DM-mq6hx]

Why does everyone pronounce this word wrong... satiate. I am satiated, saciated. Satiaty, Sassiaty

[@Chris90.]

high protein, good complex carbs, less Saturated fat and enough healthy unsaturated fats for the win!

[@sportysbusiness]

Why less saturated fat? Natural saturated fats like coconut oil or tallow are healthy.

[@Chris90.]

​@@sportysbusiness too much SFA in the human diet is bad for your ApoB. the only SFA exception is in stearic acid form which is in things like dark chocolate. but overall its a non-essential fatty acid compared to actual essential fatty acids like DHA, ALA, EPA (Omega 3's) and polyunsaturated. a Mediterranean-style keto diet would be a lot healthier