Diets: Macros Vs Calorie Counting - What The Fitness EP 17

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[@apphacker]

I learned way more from this video than I expected. I love these Friday videos, thank you for creating them!

[@runemartinguldberg9056]

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[@riseandshout00]

Dave: calories don't matter Also dave: when dieting you need to cut or add the amount of carbs (4 calories each)

[@mikelynam7519]

Haha I was thinking the same thing... Upping/lowering carbs to assist body weight gain/loss is upping/lowering calories... *Face-palm

[@MrGflan]

I find it really interesting that on days when I eat a whole salmon for instance, I tend to lose weight the next day. I know it’s anecdotal, but I swear the thermic affect of all the protein may have something to do with it. If I eat a steak or 98 lean meat, I don’t usually have this happen. I still don’t understand it totally. Maybe the body just likes to burn fish off better. Who knows.

[@GZBTV]

@@MrGflan Gary Michael Flanagan fish doesn't break the law of thermodynamics. An overnight scale drop is definitely just water weight fluctuation, which happens when you drink less fluid or consume less carbs on any given day. That's a quick way to lose weight, but it's not fat loss. Fat loss takes months... Try recording your weight on myfitnesspal every morning upon waking. Add Mon-sun and divide by 7 for a weekly average. Every week you'll have more reliable figures to compare which direction your weight is really going

[@jasonsvedin2259]

Layne, you completely changed my view on food/calories. Thank you sir for not only laying out quality information, but backing it up with where it comes from. (copy/paste that statement for all the videos of yours that I have watched so far)

[@geuuzdd5919]

I'm here because dr greg doucette told me to sub, great content

[@mikeyforge2386]

Hey he's my Doctor too!!

[@tuhinmailme]

In Which video?

[@skateata1]

Love greg doucette

[@firagabird]

This didn't age well

[@innazimmerling5686]

Me too

[@liambmn]

"If you use words like ALWAYS, you're ALWAYS gonna be wrong"

[@MattLadner84]

I love the direction you're taking your channel. It's way more entertaining than the original videos while still delivering the scientific evidence based approach to diet and fitness.

[@ArataTV414]

I’m more impressed of your ability to instantly point out logical fallacies than your knowledge of nutritional science.

[@BigDees19]

He's amazing at both

[@othmanhamsho9969]

"These calorie people are psychopaths" LOL

[@RyanOstarineGarcia]

I think Dave was clearly joking. This guy is just trying to hard to make Dave look like a fool

[@the_notorious_bas]

Chad Literally Nicholls so calling someone a psychopath can be considered as a joke?

[@noahbatz6006]

Can confirm, I am one of those calorie people kekw

[@AdrianColley]

That's what convinced me the original video is some kind of clickbait.

[@KeepitWausome]

Well, I dropped my calories to below 2,000 and I’m losing weight even while eating carbs - guess I’m a calorie psychopath, Dave!

[@ibrahimrodriguez3995]

@@ChronicleContent well of course, it's not a fixed value, it changes depending on your levels of activity, lifestyle and however many other variables

[@RastusSoup]

@@ibrahimrodriguez3995 r/whoosh

[@bastinelli443]

For me I find it easier to track calories. If I miss a meal I know how many calories I can eat versus trying to figure out the macros. Super helpful especially when you're traveling or going to someone's house to eat.

[@przemysawj6499]

Trackimg calories is more flexible than trackimg macros, because if You look at calories it doesnt mater if You eat 10% more or less some makros, if You keep protein high you will lose weight exc. Trackimg makros is basicly tracking calories, if You tracking makros just multiply by calories per g and You have sum. But tracking makros have one flow. For ex. If You go crazy and eat 50g fat more it not be sufficient to cut 50 g of carbs You must cut over 100 g carbs with is cauting calories. Simply tracking calories is much more flexible and tracking macros make you hit not 1 number but 3 seperate, with sometimes can be difficult when You go out exc.

[@Adrien_broner]

One meal a day is great because it's easy and takes no effort 👍. Not a fan of fad diets but it works because it's easy to follow and any idiot can lose weight doing it. It's good for people who lack self control and can't be bothered to track all their calories and write everything down, weighing their food etc.

[@hippystyle6551]

​@@Adrien_bronernot optimal

[@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225]

​@@przemysawj6499 And what if you end up eating way less protein on just calories in vs calories out basis?

[@przemysawj6499]

@@pizzaparkerhotdogmaguire3225 read my comment once again. I wrote that you should eat plenty of protein. If you eat less protein nothing happens, if you cut a little calories because digesting protein burn more calories, but it is better to eat sufficient amount of protein.

[@markgodking8904]

I've gone from 124kg to 72 kg just being in a calorie deficit with higher amounts of protein just for body recomp reasons .. I do ZERO cardio and just lift weight 3 days a week for about an hour to an hour and a half depending on my rest times I still have carbs and fats .. and if I'm under my calories for the day I will have that brownie .. its news to me that this doesn't work considering I have lost 52kg's (115 pounds) just staying in a calorie deficit and pretty much eating what I want as long as it keeps me under my calories for the day

[@SAB-iq1kp]

Wow nice work. Any diet in particular?

[@mando3651]

How many calories a day?

[@Blade-ew5ln]

I am absolutely floored this was coming from someone who has been in the game as long as Dave Palumbo. He should know better.

[@ad-ross]

Im losing weight eating mocha latte's, burgers, tacos, and cheese quesadillas because I'm tracking in a deficit. Loving life and I'm not that much hungrier.

[@overunderstrength]

Such a breath of fresh air in the nutrition world. Please...Keep doing what you are doing good sir. Your information is very much needed by everyone.

[@Verdad2024]

You are getting better at this. I believe KZbin has taught you to communicate things to the masses more clearly. I really enjoyed this segment. Keep it up

[@AlecTramblayCoaching]

Dave’s loves to talk about how when he was growing as a bodybuilder he would eat McDonald’s daily and NOT get fat.. wouldn’t those be “negative partitioning agents” and make him fat?🤔

[@Kermit46]

Actually he talks about he would have one cheat meal a day which was usually one double cheeseburger to help him meet his macros and his other meals were clean.

[@AlecTramblayCoaching]

johnny gladstone how does that differ from what I said?

[@AlecTramblayCoaching]

And it 100% was not ONE double cheeseburger, I’ve listened to him talk about for years on RXMuscle. An300lb bodybuilder doesn’t eat one dbl cheeseburger

[@WaterBuffaloTM]

Dave had a faster metabolism than a normal human being, also dave was talking about the off season. We have to talk about the general public ...

[@AlecTramblayCoaching]

Water Buffalo Training Method none of that has anything to do with the points of this video nor my comment

[@Zilch129]

I find it funny that when he goes into talking about the macro ratio, he says how you need to then adjust your carbs based on whether your'e gaining or losing weight. That is literally adjusting your calories based on what your goals are. Not only are you adjusting your calorie intake, you are then adjusting your macro profile too. It is a really dumb argument lmao.

[@sup7man]

Can you talk about Dr Jason Fung and Ted Naiman? They swear by fasting, hormones, and keto type diets. How can reputable Doctors keep ignoring calories and the law of thermodynamics?

[@pauljansen6650]

Fung is a cult leader

[@nealg3546]

Never heard of him but he sure sounds like a cult leader 😂

[@dartfather]

Super B Calories matter but macros and hormones also matter.

[@noloveforthehaters]

I don't think anyone considers either of them reputable.

[@katherinerogers1901]

Before I started really working out- when I was in my early twenties I lost 30 pounds. I ate egg whites, cereal, almond milk, weight watchers cakes, candy, turkey burger, green beans, and sliced cucumber with salt. It was SO unhealthy, but I only ate 1200 calories a day. 7 years later, I have kept the weight off. I eat healthy foods now, and I'm conscious of my calories, make sure I am eating enough protein. But I still eat a pretty high sugar diet. Apples, peaches, protein bars. I can't do artificial sweeteners so my protein bars have a good amount of sugar. I am hungry less often when I restrict my sugar intake, but I lost weight on a high sugar diet... Probably would have been more comfortable and less hungary had I chosen healthier foods, but.... According to this macros argument, I should have gained a boatload of weight. And when he talks about having that brownie because you're under your calories, on Saturdays I would not eat all day so that I could go out to eat at night and get ice cream. I would eat my maintenance calories for the entire day in that 1 meal and it worked.

[@knowledgebombs984]

I REALLY hope he has that debate, I love it when layne destroys someone who is just selling bs

[@the_notorious_bas]

Good stuff Layne, and I would love to see that debate.

[@Jessicafull1345]

Did you watch the debate.. proved layne wrong and made him look silly

[@the_notorious_bas]

@@Jessicafull1345 I saw it, but we think the opposite. In contrary to Dave, Layne kept calm and had solid arguments and backed them up by scientific papers.

[@SirAlexanderdeLarge]

Dave's arguments gave me palumboism!

[@punkandlifting]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@matto397]

Just scrolling back through missed videos really enjoyed this one. Layne your the genius OG of the fitness industry love your work.

[@TheCeiteach]

"I don't count calories i count macros"... so technically you do count calories because you eat less carbs or fat to lose weight right? Well that's a calorie deficit

[@dieppat]

If you’re on a 500 calorie deficit and you don’t lose weight, you’re not on a calorie deficit! Easy peasy

[@gregtuttle9626]

Dave is the ultimate BRO scientist. He even thinks free weights cause a "different look" to a physique.

[@charrlesbobrewer]

They do

[@mrswolls]

Phil Heath and Dexter Jackson use probably 85% machines.. Could they really be that much better if they switched to majority free weight movements?

[@katherinerogers1901]

You have to employ more muscles for balance with free weights. I can squat a lot more weight on a Smith machine than I can with free weights. Just something to think about.

[@nazinas21]

@@katherinerogers1901 Really? I squat more free weight than on the machines

[@Jessicafull1345]

Phil and dexter use machine more while dieting to save injury before shows .. they didn't get huge on machines

[@lisakibler458]

Yes. Thank you for this great explanation! Great content, as always!! Hope Dave takes you up on that debate challenge.

[@davemcaferty6347]

Great video like always you ROCK !!! Brother Thank you for putting out these great videos

[@alanellis1776]

please do a what the fitness on autumn bates. she has a masters in nutrition and says calories in and calories out doesnt matter its all about your hormones and insulin level. she has an episode saying pb2 will make you fat because of the 1g of sugar and its not satiating where peanut butter is better.

[@the_notorious_bas]

Alan Ellis Wow, about time to return that 'masters' title

[@alhemmings8554]

I think CICO is less relevant if your hormones, thyroid and/or insulin are in a mess. The body can be very determined to hold onto body fat or down regulate metabolism in these cases. All the more reason to get checked out, build consistency in your diet, wait a while and then seek extra help if it still isn't working. Unfortunately I think the majority of these 'cant lose weight' cases boil down to either not being honest/informed about your REAL intake, or down regulated BMR's from yoyo-ing between chronic calorie restriction, binge re feeding and balls to the wall exercise programs.

[@geuuzdd5919]

Go watch dr greg doucette, he destroys that bimbo and all her bs

[@the_notorious_bas]

Al Hemmings In case someone has a slower metabolism for whatever reason, than the CICO rule is still valid. That person simply needs to consume less calories compared to someone without issues.

[@crikeymos22]

I love what you are doing with these vids. When I am tempted to change tactics due to what someone convincingly states is correct I just think of all your lectures and am back on the straight and narrow. No wonder people get confused with these charlatans. It’s a wonder they don’t get sued. Thanks 🙏

[@SBavailablehandle]

"and anyone that wants to come on and debatethis with is welcome" Layne: *ears perk up*🙃 say what!? Yeah, okay... let's do that... 😂

[@9210Benjamin]

He destroyed his own argument at the end. I was hoping you’d comment on it. He said his macronutrient breakdown is X amount of protein per lb of body weight, X amount of fat per lb of body weight, and Carbohydrates ‘depending on your metabolic needs’. The fluctuation in carbohydrates in his own model is what puts you above or below a set calorie goal and balances the energy expenditure. I don’t see how people don’t understand this.

[@michaelvikhman7926]

I actually would like to see a study where they had people eating 500 less of thier BMR, one ĝroup eats nothing but lean cabs, the other nothing but lean protien for 3 month and see what happens.

[@alexanabolic5099]

You could bring Greg "the doctor" Doucette with you

[@wisewigga7129]

True

[@mikeyforge2386]

Lane told me to take 2 grams of testosterone and it doesn't matter if I eat clean!! Got it!! Thanks for the info!!

[@kokkraj_]

Yes, finally a longer video!

[@KilgoreTroutAsf]

When (sane) people say calories in - calories out doesn't work they are not suggesting that diet breaks the laws of thermodynamics. What they are saying is that you have massive problems accounting both sides of this equation, to the point that it is a useless guide to fat loss. Calorie counts in foods on one side can be wildly off, and calorie expenditure is regulated by lots of hormones that control fat storage, core temperature, mood and energy levels, not to mention the calories the body directly disposes of without even burning them. Moreover, this CI/CO mantra has been used forever by junk food companies to imply that all calories are the same, so it doesn't matter what you stuff your mouth with.

[@ClickToPreview]

You should absolutely write a book about bro science versus research science in this vein of nutrition and gaining/losing weight.

[@othmanhamsho9969]

That email time song tho

[@nexxogen]

First he says how tracking calories is stupid and then goes on to recommend a very specific intake of protein per body weight unit (which is a predetermined amount of calories), a very specific intake of fats per body weight unit (which is a predetermined amount of calories) and a non-specific amount of carbs "based on an individual metabolic needs", which just translates as "however many calories you need to stay in a deficit (if you want to lose weight) or be in a surplus (if you want to gain muscle).

[@Magic_beans_]

2:35 Another error: Weight Watchers uses a Points system which is influenced by a food’s caloric content but also adjusts for sugar, protein, and saturated fat. Also most fruits and vegetables are zero Points, meaning the participant can have them ad libitum (which is basically their way of encouraging more fiber intake.) I can’t speak to those other programs, but WW is not “a calorie is a calorie.”

[@ryanfollweiler691]

How does this guy have a platform

[@buksvdl]

Dr Ben Bikman will not agree with you as much as you don't agree with Dave.

[@theironforce3000]

Great info response ! Well since we didn't get to see Ferguson vs. Khabib (for the 5th time) Might as well see this awesome topic get slayed by both Dave & Layne! I'm sure he'll be open to it. Views are important right now ☺

[@joewhisney1113]

So good! Layering in the logical fallacy/cognitive bias in the statements he’s making, makes this breakdown even better.

[@billvigus3719]

Love your content Dave. Just noting that you meant to say prednisone was Cortisone not cortisol which is a different hormone.

[@hillbillybarbell1536]

I love how you roast these fuckers throwing out false claims!

[@taylorbarrett384]

One thing you forgot Layne is not only TEF of protein but also the energy intensive process of converting aminos to glucose to fat. Pretty much impossible to have net fat gains if the only thing you are eating is high amounts of lean animal proteins.

[@franksandbeans82]

Surely do a debate with Dave. Bro science from genetically gifted fitness industry people is confusing the crap out of people. People don't know who to believe.

[@paramore91rioxz]

Layne sometimes I'm so sorry for you bro, you have to deal with all these stupid people that ruining industry and don't understand how science works and even physiology. Really appreciate you for everything 💪👍

[@exercisefornormalpeople6731]

Where is the debate?

[@tuckstar]

It's all about calories in vs calories out but in the real world counting macros is by far the best method. If I eat low protein processed garbage containing both carbs and fats I get fat easily....my NEAT is non existent. If I eat high protein, high carb and low fat I can't get fat... i can't sit still, my body just wants to burn the calories off. The more calories I eat, the more I feel the need to move and do stuff So yes, it's all about calories but the macros you eat massively affect calories out. So I'd agree with Dave. 2 style of eating that work. 1. High protein, high carb, low fat 2. High protein, low carb, high fat. Eating high fat and high carb together is a recipe for disaster.

[@pauljansen6650]

Depends on what you want.... fat loss? weight loss? body comp? performance?

[@coryk4974]

........... You don't know Layne very well* do you?

[@tuckstar]

@@pauljansen6650 I'm generalising, if you want to be specific then thats more complex. But for fat loss or weight loss either approach works as long as the macros you choose put you in a calorie deficit. If you want performance while losing fat then high protein, high carb and low fat is what I find ideal. This is basically similar to the vertical diet. The same goes for type2 diabetics, you can actually fix type2 diabetes eating a lot of carbs and sugars ... that blows peoples minds . As long as you're losing weight (in a calorie deficit) over time you'll improve blood sugars over time eating a lot of sugar. Low carb diets for type2 diabetics is not needed.

[@igi.invigorate5331]

oh this is up for debate. have seen many women struggling with losing fat on a water fast or on a 300-500kcal regime!

[@86mreyes]

Sounds like a metabolic issue. And these women are outliers and not the norm.

[@mats9528]

Big Thank You!

[@John-vx2fq]

I personally believe keeping protein sufficiently high and calories in a deficit is the best route, best of both worlds...I'm right down the middle with these arguments.

[@danielleabel2156]

Way to throw it down! So appreciate your expertise and desire to call out the BS and reference the literature.

[@traylaitken-cade6112]

Just started watching your content . I've done omad , keto ,carnivore , psmf etc . I believed with eachone that I had stumbled on the holy grail . Now I listen to you and I'm changing my mind . Calories do matter . I have also started taking artificial sweetners again 😋 . I hope you can answer a question for me . The Rabbit starvation diet . If I ate only extreemly lean meat but more than my daily requirement by 500 calories would I gain weight or would i starve and get skinny ? Keep up the good work .

[@biolayne1]

You ain’t gonna gain weight eating only 500 calories per day even if it was all junk food

[@traylaitken-cade6112]

@@biolayne1 Thanks for the quick reply Lane . I asked you what would happen if I increased my daily intake by 500 calories of very lean protien over and above my requirements . So instead of 2000 cal eating an extra 500 .So total daily I take 2500 cal . Not eating only 500 calories . I'm shifting my paradigm on the calorie model ( thanks to you) but if the Rabbit starvation data is true then it's a bit of a black Swan for calorie counting . OK cheers .

[@sjcali6161]

I’ve never seen a video from this guy nor do I know who he is, but I know who Dave is and Dave couldn’t be more wrong. Macros 1000% don’t matter. Yes I like to take in more protein because your body uses more energy to break down Protein than the other 2 macros but I don’t care about my fat to carb ratio. Plus protein keeps you more full longer. Dave has used his method for years and doesn’t want to accept he hasn’t had to do this way this whole time.

[@brandonedwards905]

Imagine looking like Dave Palumbo.

[@tommyaaquist4138]

love this content !

[@mcfarvo]

If you track macros, you track calories as you can simply convert Xg to Ykcal easily. (If you track calories, you may not be paying attention to the macro breakdown though.) Oh, Dave...

[@MichaelWarrenPerform]

I remember having a convo with Layne about this back in 05 or 06 at the Arnold. There's been so much stupidity about this ever since. People just need a few physics and chemistry classes to understand the basics I suppose. Also, you just can't teach somebody something their IQ can't comprehend.

[@evagosselin4712]

I must be the only one that dropped alot of weight on Prednisone, it killed my appetite, I got way too thin!

[@TeamYouphoric]

If you deadlift a bar off the ground in an open space on earth with normal gravity and let go of the bar, it will ALWAYS fall back to the ground.

[@scheterpiff2385]

I believe there is a >0% chance that the bar drops on something else instead. For example an animal can run under the bar as you drop it or the wind can blow some item under it. Or a hurricane might pick up the bar and throw it on a roof of a building.

[@AdrianColley]

Not if you let it fall onto a loading pallet, that's about to be loaded into a rocket, that's imminently about to accelerate to 12 km/s. Then it's on an escape trajectory out of Earth's orbit.

[@TehHitmarker8]

Big question here, that may require a video in and of itself: Two people, clones of each other(identical Metabolism genetics), eating identical amounts of calories, but say one eating a tiny bit more to account for the thermodynamic effect of a their now, much higher protein content diet. Will we see any physiological changes in the higher protein content diet individual? My assumption is that only if that person was previously protein deficient. If we do see a difference, would it be a set amount of contractile tissue, to a point at which their protein intake (on this new diet) could sustain the needs of that tissue? Covering hormonal interactions in this video would be very interesting.

[@pauljansen6650]

Would love a study like this

[@AlexRuhlz]

I don't know if this answers your question but I'm pretty sure that when looking at studies on high protein diet, they all pointed out that past a certain quantity (around 2g/lb of lean bw) there was no further physiological interest and no more anabolic response from the body (if leucine / protein content is optimized for each meal)

[@thomasdominguez3649]

Thank you

[@wenlambotomy6231]

If you’re not counting calories forget your macros. Sort your calories out first. When thats dialled then you can look at macros. Forget macros exist if you’re not sorting calories first.

[@EDS245]

Love to see the debate!!

[@FitnessToday69]

Do a debate!

[@dazzybizzle]

Hi layne, Could you possibly extrapolate maybe in another video, a short answer if possible, about the relationship between hormones, and fat loss, beause other scientific experts such as Dr Benjamin Birkman, discuss the relationship of how hormones, can affect this notion of burning fat despite being in a caloric deficit, and I'm still a bit confused. Thank you for the great content

[@Motorsportsinjapan]

Well, it's both isn't it. Calorie focus will absolutely determine weight loss, macro focus will more what kind of weight and overall health. And some foods have a much higher calorie cost than others. I agree that people who focus solely on calorie number are wrong, you need to focus on both. Layne has some good videos on this.

[@jonascelentano9251]

Biolayne ftw!

[@JustAaronJoshua]

I like to think macros as a range instead of an absolute number. An article highlighting a study shows low carb or low fat it doesn’t matter for weight loss : examine.com/nutrition/low-fat-vs-low-carb-for-weight-loss/

[@archmaesterofpullups]

Dave clearly defines macronutrients to include protein, carbs, m-tren, clen, and prednisone.

[@islanderATP]

I did carni, lost some weight, then stuck. Meat only,no carbs and yep still came down to fuel intake,use and stores. I set out to test a few diet methods,and I bounced it against science and my own result's..and I ended up at Stan Efferding and Layne Norton I follow Stans Vertical Diet,but they both echo same approach. I follow them both

[@xxdrowssapxx1]

i use both. macros are useful in helping maintain a minimum level of fat, protein and fibre.

[@dual7779]

Dave is the definition of bro science

[@MrVincentTremblay]

Palumbo is damn crazy...

[@SAB-iq1kp]

Well " eating in a caloric deficit will lead to weight loss".... what do you do when you are a idiot (like me) lost a bunch of weight on 1400-1500 cal a day, but now you stall for a month at 1200-1400( i know i went to low but i don't feel hungry) cal a day and still have 20kg to loose? I went from 122kg to 94 kg in 4 months doing omad, i do 1h cardio a day and 3 day split weight training.

[@sorrisocdo2759]

Pretty intresting... I've been fat through my childhood, I'm a mezo-endomorf guy, yet now I eat chocolate, pastry while always paying attention to my calories, and I have a six packs. Guess Im a magician than.

[@ImChiLynn]

Uh math is hard. Simple numbers over percentages for me 😂 Enjoyed the video! Just subscribed!

[@nikosrosos5180]

protein will be used for building the cells ,carbs will store more fat In a surplus than protein not theoretical in reality if you go with 3500 calories and 40!%is protein you will gain very little fat if you with 10%you will lose muscle and gain fat , offcourse a calorie is a calorie but protein probably won't be used for energy in the first place ,clean food and essential fats etc will have a better result in the long health wise training wise etc

[@MrLebritts]

What Lane is not understanding is that different foods cause a hormone response in the body. Dr. Ted Naiman's P:E diet is the best resource for understanding all this calorie mess.

[@the_notorious_bas]

MrLebritts Any validated scientific papers to back that food>hormones>weight claim up?

[@jlbks56]

Actually Lane has mentioned over and over that different foods have different impacts on energy out. In this video he talks about it.....

[@BigTiix7]

"not dumb guy but his is making a dumb argument" well said! n very correct great info here the whole idea of "my way one way" dieting is ridiculous.

[@buhazeem.alsuwaidi]

Dr, I got a question. So if you’re in a deficit with enough protein. The body’s gonna automatically lose fat for the weight loss? Despite the fat / carb ratio? Cause we all know the body easily stores fat as adipose tissues instead of converting glucose to fat ( De novo Lipogenesis). So logically, having minimal fat (15%) for hormonal function and filling the rest with carbs for performance will provide the ideal process to store less fat while losing weight.

[@menowin7]

if only dave himself would see this ^^

[@leigh_carmichael]

Dave’s pride will be hurt by this. He’ll do a response video for sure 😆

[@the_notorious_bas]

Aussie Beef Dave better stick to his promise and have a debate

[@Jessicafull1345]

He stuck too it and made layne look silly

[@jamesbailey5008]

How's DPs skin.. doesn't have 300lb in there anymore... Ouch

[@johnfinnerty2336]

my friend met dave about dave training him, they met at a mcdonalds and all dave did was tell him which steroids he needs to be on nothing about past training diet history or anything else

[@Barnes247]

I’m so glad you are setting the record straight when people put horrific content out there! I watched this video a few times because you absolutely destroyed him. Not to mention the information he was spewing was “Complete Horse Shit!” 🤣🙌🏽 #LayneForPresident

[@TheEndizalic]

Would love to see you roast Dave Palumbo. Felt like I was losing brain cells as he kept talking. CALORIE DEFICIT MEANS YOULL LOSE WEIGHT. Of course someone isn’t going to eat 2000 calories worth of carbs or 2000 calories worth of protein. Ridiculous.

[@andyjerram936]

He has doubled down on this by posting a seminar done my Dr Scott Connelly, I do not have a degree in nutritional sciences and I already saw the flaws Layne will expose..... Please do a breakdown of the videos pleeeeease!!! Edit: Worth noting, Dr Scott Connelly is a doctor of.... wait for it..... anesthesia! XD

[@alotan2acs]

10:00. I have a question: high protein diets have been shown to reduce muscle loss in calorie deficit. If so, some of that protein must be being used to build muscle. If so, not all of it is available for oxidation for energy. Thus, one should be able to ingest more calories in the form of protein compared to carbs but maintain a larger calorie deficit (since not all of the calories from protein are truly available to contribute to energy balance). This is on top of TEF. Is this correct?

[@mando3651]

Shut up dude

[@morganjones1630]

Yes! Please debate!!!

[@davidstevenson9363]

Who gives a crap about lost or gained weight when what we should be concerned about is lost or gained muscle and or lost or gained fat.

[@biolayne1]

This changes none of what I said

[@joshuadunbar2290]

Listened to this while driving and almost went off the road laughing at Dave

[@elleh3495]

his shredded dimples are making me nervous; it's like watching a boulder talk.

[@alhemmings8554]

I stuck with this but it was very immature. Typical my phD is bigger than yours, my studies will crush your studies etc. Last video I watch. Its a real shame because I'm sure Layne's knowledge and experience is what we really tune in for.

[@the_notorious_bas]

Al Hemmings And calling calorie counting people psychopaths is adult like behaviour? This is KZbin sir, so there's nothing wrong with some entertainment.

[@IAMCHINOMARIN]

Layne has two videos that he posts weekly. One is the educational content you’re looking for which is on Wednesdays. No humor, just education. The other is this, literally the whole vibe of this series is the opposite to that. Maybe don’t watch this series and just stick to his educational series instead? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@punkandlifting]

I saw that video posted and immediately laughed and scrolled right passed it. No way was I giving that a view.

[@boxerfencer]

Layne, why not review Ray Cronise? He suggests shivering as a valid method to lose weight. For instance, he recommends swimming for weightloss, but key is once getting out of the pool, avoiding showering immediately to allow the body to shiver to burn an incredible amount of calories. I found this latter point odd, since I'm sure years ago swimming was shown to be an inefficient fat burner, due to blood dilation and pool temperature, if I recall. He also suggests keeping the house thermostat low for the same reason, in relation to acclimating the body for winter to lose weight. Are either of these valid weight loss strategies? He also says that the body has preferred energy sources, and that weightloss can be effortless through their manipulation, over and above "the calories in calories out" model, which I found dubious as it again seems to be the same ad naseum a calorie is not a calorie argument again. You can check out his claims at Dave Macconi's KZbin account, where there's a 2 part interview. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fne1hahue72Medk kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZa6emqKe6yVl8k