Difference Between a Field and a Sporter With The Gun Shop

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[@danielt.3152]

I can tell you one thing you walk around North or South Dakota from 8am to 4pm with dogs, gear, buddies etc, carrying around 7+ lbs of gun and shotshells, and 1-2 birds in your back vest bag, it’s going to wear a bit, so consider a lighter gun, lighter boots etc. you should consider a 28” barrel etc for a faster swing on hard flying wild birds. Don’t forget to break for lunch….

[@AF-O6]

…and then late season the birds run and won’t flush, and the dog gets sprayed by a skunk just in time to pack up and drive home. Pheasant hunting on the ND MT border is the coldest, hardest, funnest hunting ever!

[@rayniermanly9945]

maybe 5 years late, but i like your explanations and your conclusion at the end. eppreciate your content, have seen a couple of your videos now.

[@darksidecarnival5385]

I'm new to shotguns, clays and game. This really helped me understand the difference. Thank you!👍

[@geraldswain3259]

This is a damn good grounding, on the difference between both type of guns ,that a lot of people don't understand. a good and well explained video!.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Gerald Swain thankyou friend. A lot of people ask the question, always just trying to answer them.

[@marcellusnoel1259]

instablaster.

[@Britishshooter]

Brilliant explanation of the differences between Sporter and Game!

[@Trentk69]

Great video - and very informative - please keep them coming - thank you

[@nicolemann7464]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@219garry]

Owned many shotguns. If you are thinking of buying a shotgun for both sporting clays and upland hunting consider going with a 20 bore sporting gun. You'll be fine for 90 percent of the clay presentations and you'll be light enough to carry in the field.

[@DuzBee]

Nice simple logical advice.

[@grahampawson1502]

Very informative and well delivered , keep up the good work guys !

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thanks Graham

[@mitchd949]

Just got a SP1 field gun in 12 ga and I love it for trap and sporting clays. 5 oz lighter, and stock/comb fits me well.

[@beechrad1965]

Top notch content as always. Thank you.

[@michaelbosisto6259]

Why I went with a 20g. Lighter from the start. I bought a Silver Pigeon III 20g with a 30” barrel. It has very good manners for bird hunting, and those really long days , soaked from the rain.

[@paulwiggington4563]

Very helpful !! Good information! Thank you sir.

[@bmocaby9747]

I like the field models honestly. Theres exceptions obviously but I shoot sporting Clay's mainly and bought the citori 725 feild with 28" barrels and love. Often shoot skeet also as a warm up also and it does great. Honestly though it's mostly form and doing everything right and consistent every single shot or atleast 95% of the time.

[@englishsteve736]

Thanks for your honest video.

[@Lord-Snowflake]

I have a field that I would put against a sporter, anytime : ) Great video, please continue to do more, I love what your're doing. It seems that nobody has knowledge of this subject anymore with the youth today. Thank you.

[@robertmitchell9415]

I have a sporter that I would put against a field any day of the week 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@romansivers]

Thank you very much. I have learned a lot from you!

[@darialebedeva8393]

Extremely helpful video! Thank you!

[@bsenalaska]

Very good information 👏🏻👍🏻

[@licensetochill79]

Just found your channel today. I like the way you explain everything out. Meaning layman's terms. Greetings from across the pond here in the United States.

[@tgsoutdoors]

pleasure to have you following.

[@ajvidman21]

Great video. Yeah I’m interested in a browning 725 field. Held it the other day and was so perfectly comfortable in hand. Problem is I mainly shoot trap once a week or once every two weeks and hunt birds maybe in the winter 3-4 times only. Any additional advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

[@1946nimrod]

You need 2 guns!

[@219garry]

20 gauge Silver Pigeon sporter. Good enough for 97 percent of sporting clays and light enough for the field.

[@ericb.4358]

It seems then that my Franchi Instinct L, with its light weight and shorter barrels, is a field gun. I like it for sporting clays which is "field practice".

[@martinlinn1958]

Thanks John we’ve learnt a lot from watching your videos regards Martin And Joby

[@DavidAdiv]

Good one

[@edvinlof6132]

Did beretta only release the silver pigeon 686 with the rounded fore stock in 2019?

[@domj345]

Well explained.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Thanks Dom

[@Bob_Keen]

Great work, you are a natural. Also I want one of the gun shop mugs in the vid, where can I get one ?

[@jackodwyer8755]

The gun shop

[@Bob_Keen]

@@jackodwyer8755 not if it takes two years to deliver it......

[@corysimek]

This is a great video thanks. Here is my question: what if I can only buy one gun and I want to use it for field and sport shooting? What brands and or model would you suggest? I really like over-under if possible

[@tgsoutdoors]

most sporters are suitable for game shooting too - there are a few guns that do bridge the gap well - the miroku mk60 the beretta 693 sport the browning 725 pro sport any mid weight perazzi or clone thereof

[@alanbush4192]

Cory.. A berretta 686 silver pigeon multi choke with 28" barrels will do just about anything you want. you will have a gun for all seasons I have shot D/T/L, Skeet, Sporting , Compact, Pheasants , Wood pigeon, all with the same gun you just change the chokes to suit the job in hand. And you cant wear it out . I have a 686 Onyx which is the grand papa of the pigeon its 35years old it never misses a beat I shoot 87%+ on clays with it im 74 and if I sold it [which I wont] I would get my money back. what's not to like

[@chrischadwick5395]

Browning 525 sporter is a good do it all gun in my opinion

[@thomasfleig3499]

I love how you make it sound like 4 ounces is a big difference when you have to carry the gun in the field. A 1/4lbs. is negligible. Let's be more realistic. Like you stated, the differences aren't that much where you couldn't use either one for field or sport, and get the same results. I'm more inclined to believe it's a gun manufacturers way of trying to convince you that you need 2 separate guns, in order for them to make more money off you. I've taken my Remington 11-87 to the trap range and was hitting better than many of the people with their high dollar over and unders. Maybe it's worth it if you compete, but I think most people like to go clay shooting occasionally, in which case you can have as much fun, and very good success, with your field gun. That's just me.

[@tgsoutdoors]

In a basic grade like this there isnt much difference, mostly because the manufacturers dont want to commit to either camp. In the higher end of things the differences are much more pronounced

[@alanbush4192]

Thomas....I agree when every one had 28" barrels they convinced people to buy 30" when they saturated the market with these they the tried to sell us 32". I use a remi 1100 to teach with. Easy to shoot low recoil and above all SAFE in use. I have shot just about every discipline with this 28" modified choke hits just about every thing if you cant hit it with this then you shouldn't be shooting at it

[@moparstevo]

"Variability" is a word.

[@craigsaunders7037]

Yes , perfectly cromulent.

[@mouhannadalsalem6025]

can I use any sporting model from Beretta for both hunting and skeet shooting?

[@JudahMaccabee_]

I have noticed 2 styles of checkering on the Silver Pigeon 1; one style as shown in this video, and the other style is the 'V' shape style checkering on the grip and fore stock. Are these different years of manufacturing of the SP1 or a different reason?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Both age and model related I believe. Older models have the v type chequering. Now the field and sporter variants have different v and rounded chequering respectively

[@JudahMaccabee_]

The Gun Shop Perfect. Thank you

[@jasminderization]

You’ve got a strong thumb man. I can’t open the action with one hand lol

[@tgsoutdoors]

best get down the hand gym!

[@troyroberts9076]

Thumb only push ups

[@williamwatkins1996]

I bought a yildiz 12 gauge/bore in yalls terms it 5.8 pounds which is like 2.6 kilos is this more consistent with a game gun or a sporter? I’m new to the O/U guns I just always have pumps mossberg 500 12 for home defense and a short barrel Remington 870 in 20 gauge for a truck gun. So now I have a actual hunting shotgun and was just curious and what it would be classified as.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Certainly more consistent weight wise with a game gun.

[@allwaysfarm573]

Hi there - Thanks - this is very, very useful - been shooting clays for many years and have always loved my Beretta Sporting guns - 1 x Silver Pigeon and 1 x 682 Gold. Want to buy my son and daughter (11 and 13 years old) a clay gun and am looking at 28” Silver Pigeons in Sporting and Field models. Leaning towards a Field gun in 28” as it is lighter for them. This will only be for clays. They get tired of holding my 30” Sporters. Also the stock is shorter on the Field which is better for them, right? I can put an adjustable cheek-piece in for them to raise it if needed. Have seen a quality used Field gun in multi-choke, which is perfect. Any thoughts on why I should NOT go down the Field gun route as described above. Thinner rib a problem longer-term maybe? Lighter gun not a recoil problem as I use 21 gram ammo in any case. Can’t make a mistake in South Africa here as licences are so darned tough to come by. Thanks for your help and advice...!

[@tgsoutdoors]

I think the only problem may be comb hight on the field gun, so be prepared to stick a comb raiser on the gun. Other than that it’s not a bad idea.

[@allwaysfarm573]

Thanks so much for taking the time to get back to me - really appreciate it...!

[@craigsaunders7037]

Thanks .

[@jasminderization]

I am buying my first gun for skeet shooting/sporting clays. Just taking a start. I am confused between browning b525, browning Citori Aust, Miroku MK 10, Mk70, Bettinsoli evo silver, Beretta silver pigeon, Franchi Harrier. I like slim and sleek guns. Which one should i buy? They are all in the same price range. 1500-2500$ Au. Hope you have an easy answer. Thanks

[@tgsoutdoors]

MK70 grade 5, in used condition, should be in your price range. It would be my choice.

[@jasminderization]

The Gun Shop what is the difference between a grade 1 and 5 MK70 btw? Just the wood?

[@buckdownscanada9946]

Are the barrels made from the same steel in those two . Can I put steel shot through the sporter ?

[@pbgd3]

Steel shot is less about the barrel metal in modern guns than it is about the chokes. You have to check the gun but if it's a modern gun with removable chokes and a 3" chamber it is probably steel safe.

[@baderhazena5732]

Dear Sir thank you for your great info , please in soon time i bought benelli 828u and i am left handed . it already comes for right handed ? if yes please tell how i can turn it to left handed with big thanks in advance Bader hazena

[@tgsoutdoors]

Replied to your other comment mate.

[@alanbush4192]

Bader ... You cant if it has a stock cast for a right hand shooter. If the stock is straight stock it don't matter . Best bet is to buy a LEFT hand gun and not waste your time and money trying to make it do something it was not meant to do . BUY A LEFT HANDED GUN and save your money b

[@ozmanix]

This is useful and entertaining at the same time!

[@g.m.1986]

Can you guys do a review on the Browning Cynergy CX? What would you recommend if you would suggest a gun one level better? A Silver Pigeon? Writing from the U.S.

[@tgsoutdoors]

A gun one level better than the cynergy? I will see if we can get hold of one too review

[@g.m.1986]

Thanks! They are roughly $800 USD less expensive than a 686 Silver Pigeon Sporting. The gun is quite ugly, however, the affordable price makes it attractive as I have a hard time affording a Silver Pigeon or another Browning. In the U.S. those seem to be the primary options before getting into substantially more expensive guns. Thanks for responding and for considering doing a review!

[@tgsoutdoors]

It seems the same guns with you are a very different price point over here! Strange how companies price their guns with some odd geographical science

[@utahted7330]

@@tgsoutdoors Absolutely.

[@user-eh2nu5qt5d]

For hunting mobilchoke or optima-choke ?

[@8wealthyone8]

Can you do best gun for home defense pls. thanks

[@gabrielangelo2329]

Automatic ejectors on the sporting 😊👍🏽

[@pentzzzify]

so by the game gun is better suited for the field ? better for actual hunting ? so the pigeon silver I wouldn't be as suited for hunting ?

[@tgsoutdoors]

The SP1 field would be ideal

[@rramramirez9323]

@The Gun Shop Thank you for your videos I like the common sense technical assessment. I acquired my 20ga. Browning Citori Lighting in 1988. It has been a solid performer and after thousands of shells the Citori has yet to fail in any dimension. I am looking for a new Browning Citori 12 ga. I am considering the Citori 725 Sport however when I went to my local gun shop they were really pushing the Beretta "top of the bottom" , Sorry I stole that phrase from you, base Pigeon model. They discussed some of the features you have addressed in several videos. My upland bird hunting and Field Trial Competition days are over at least in the near future. Upland bird leases costs prohibitive in Texas due to Oil and Gas drilling among other things. I also gave up golf due to nagging injuries thus I want to transition back to Sporting Clays "pigeon" , Trap and Skeet. What shotgun would you recommend, I am a Loyal Browning customer but gun shops tell me to try the Berreta. I wonder if Beretta is offering better profit margins to dealers or is there a logical explanation to choose Beretta over Browning. I understand the Beretta's are over all less expensive to service but I have never had to have my Citori lighting serviced. You thoughts are greatly appreciated.

[@charlesmalone4379]

I agree my Citori 20 Gauge Lightning is my favorite gun of all. Have the Citori standard 12 Guage also. Same look, just a little heavier to swing through.

[@wholeNwon]

A gun's a gun: Put in a shell, close the action, pull the trigger and it goes bang. If weight in the field is an issue for you, as it is for me, use a light, smaller gauge gun. There is very little game that you'll be pursuing on foot in the field that you can't kill just as well with a 20 bore as with a 12.

[@alanbush4192]

A 20 in the right hands is deadly

[@corbinhousley1373]

This dude is so funny

[@barchetta7559]

point of impact the big thing!!!!!

[@squid0013]

Im one of those who prefer a sporter to a field gun, but im pretty tall with big hands and justbprefer the filling out of the sporting gun.

[@PiKLMedia]

So what category is the MIROKU MK70 GAME GUN SPORTER 12 GAUGE because it has game and sport in its name. :)

[@fullchoke01]

Either, sporter/game doesn't mean anything compared to how a gun fits you and your shooting style, mk70 is a great all rounder but if you have an agressive mount it will be a flat shooter, mk70 is our clubs loan guns

[@n1baidak]

Bore size 18.4 vs 18.6mm. Different balance.

[@michaels2136]

This looks like a young man who was in a vice doc about guns in england. Does this this happen to be that same gentleman?

[@claudiadavies8786]

What hapund to gamber gold

[@mouhannadalsalem6025]

I didn't understand what did you say at the end of the video 😮.

[@luizfelipecandidodeoliveir6100]

Pull - bang 😃

[@oddmunddale806]

"Game gun, standing like this whole day" Maybe the story if one are a shooter? A hunter are on the move from morning to evening 7,5 -8 lbs gun are way to heavy.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Not if you train for the weight? Hi are right that different types of game shooting require different specs though.

[@oddmunddale806]

I have been hunting all most everything that walk and fly on the earth, for 50 years. Hunting with everything from the most heavy DG rifles to 40 lbs traditional bow. This spring I shoot my first wild turkeys, 20 gauge 28 barrel 69 yards and 63 yards. A nice lighter weight 20 gauge will kill everything a 12 gauge can kill. One can use longer barrel without ending up being to slow on more complicated birds like woodcocks (not speaking driven fly over in the park woodcocks)

[@tgsoutdoors]

No doubt that in terms of ballistics a 20 can take on a 12, but the load variety and availability of 12 ammunition is just that much greater.

[@oddmunddale806]

The Gun Shop When I was young and kill a lot of birds there was only one brand of shotgun ammo in the shelfs at home (Nittedal Spesial). The amazing thing are they preform as good as the most expensive ammo today. There are plenty of good ammo in 20 gauge, problem today are there are also plenty of low quality ammo ;) More to pick from dont have to be a benefit, can be if one are a clever picker.

[@razielortizbarajas5669]

How much cost the sport one?

[@tgsoutdoors]

Raziel Ortiz Barajas £1650 brand new at RRP

[@avocado9763]

Why is Beretta pushed as a great gun? Its a cookie cutter machine made gun. It is too expensive for its percieved quality. What other guns do you recommend? Thank you.

[@ooyginyardel4835]

Blimey!

[@mre.w.2850]

Absolutely all true, however I have shot a variety in one day from side by side to over and under to single and semi auto no difference in aim point some fit some don't still hit, depends on the shooter not the gun

[@STEVE-ow5ki]

made it to 1:55

[@samuelfitzsimmons8907]

Steve n i made it to 8:56

[@tgsoutdoors]

We made it all the way to the end!

[@samuelfitzsimmons8907]

The Gun Shop thats right mate ;)

[@drumhd1]

The Gun Shop And I for one enjoyed your explanation on the differences very much!

[@mrgordonjohn6143]

The trouble is what suits Tom doesn’t necessarily suit Dick or Harry to say nothing of Jane ?

[@adamhanmer2231]

Variation. Just saying

[@thebullmccabe1384]

What’s a bakial

[@samuelfitzsimmons8907]

The bull Mc cabe they did a video on it

[@alexgriffin8399]

A very cheap shotgun make. They sell single barrel for like £20. Cheats as chips and crap

[@wag14tha]

One way too describe them Is 💩

[@jasonwarren9874]

I wish i had more money

[@tgsoutdoors]

I do too

[@bgjb-r1499]

The dimensions on the stocks should be different. The ribs should have different widths, one with center bead and the hunting model without. A sporting gun also weighs more, dedicated Trap or Skeet guns weight much more, sometimes approaching 10lbs. Believe it or not Sporting Clay guns look and feel more like a field gun which is why the two guns in the video are very similar. A dedicated Trap or Skeet gun would have a Monte Carlo stock, a meatier Forend and potentially a raised Broadway rib. You would look silly hunting with a dedicated Trap or Skeet gun but you would “Not” look silly hunting with a sporting Clay gun.

[@bajadrifter]

I am sure it's just me but I can't follow/understand this video well.

[@Paul-up3pb]

What does “poo bang” mean?? 😉

[@GorVala]

Yea i noticed the weight right right away.. by looking at you struggle to pick one up

[@freddiepenrose4235]

Sorry, it’s not the accent. His rate of speech is too fast and often ends up sounding like he is mumbling. It’s a Shame really cuz he sounds quite knowledgeable. It’s not personal as I would really like to have the knowledge.

[@twilightroach4274]

I totally agree I only understood about half of what he said

[@christinamoneyhan5688]

You just have to understand that that is how the British accent is. Replay the video a few times that's how I listen to the British accents doesn't matter what I am watching or listening to.

[@freddiepenrose4235]

I couldn’t understand a damn thing he said. It’s like he is mumbling to himself. A darn shame cuz I think he actually has a lot of good information to share.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Put subtitles on, so you can make it through his hideous speech impediment!

[@franksmith8210]

Lmao good response. I'm out of the Communist republic of California here in the states and I understood him just fine.

[@kjohn1021]

I understood every word he said and I’m from the hood lol

[@engineer6250]

Turn your sound up.

[@harryleichtweis3378]

So true.

[@TheMrjack69]

I want the detailed information. He does not seem serious, Nor can I hear him . USE A BETTER MICROPHONE.. I AM IN THE MARKET FOR A 695 SPORTER

[@freddiepenrose4235]

He sounds like he is in a massive hurry. If he actually wants his audience to gain something from his knowledge he needs to slow down.

[@tgsoutdoors]

Just an accent issue then!

[@Tremulousnut]

It's an accent thing, I can understand him just fine. Just be glad he's not speaking in a Yorkshire dialect!

[@bobbythompson3544]

Terrible voice, slow down for Gods sake!

[@WeekendWarrior604]

Ool deiii loong

[@spitfireace87]

learn anglais yank

[@JudahMaccabee_]

Not even close, slowpoke.

[@user-gx7yn8pn9c]

A gay gun ?

[@danlegacy5687]

The guy needs to take the marbles out of his mouth, can anyone understand what he’s saying??

[@fullchoke01]

Literally understand every word he says sooooo....

[@WayStedYou]

Me watching the video on 2x speed. Yeah?

[@flamincooo1]

couldn't stand you half way the vid.